/jp/ - Otaku Culture

I finally purchased Mahoyo. Hopefully I'll get around to reading it around Christmas time. I still need to finish my re-read of F/HA.

>>22541655
meh op

>>22541429
Well, play testing doesn't exactly mean right around the corner. iirc Mahoyo was at one point in play test in 2009 before they decided to overhaul everything and revise the script and up the production values. I'd say we don't really know the state of the game until we get an Ace where such details are unveiled. It's important to note that before Mahoyo's release, there was a lot of information coming out about it, and we had way more preview images and even a trial before it came out. Tsukihime's remake, by comparison, doesn't even have a 10th of that, so you need to take account that they may very well ramp up their marketing quite a bit before they decide to release it into the wild. So there's a lot of factors at play here that can delay it further. That guy that thinks the 25th would be an appropriate release date is kind of fooling himself. I think, at best, if all the stars align, you might get it sometime late next year, probably after an FGO collab or something. At worst, it could take another few years before we see it. The cynic in me believes that it will probably be another 2-3 years before it comes out, and it won't exactly be what I'm expecting.

But if you're an EOP you might as well give up, it probably won't be translated for 10 years ;)

>>22541717
Heck yeah, Mahoyo is fucking awesome. Nasu peaked with the later chapters.

what are the most underrated type moon entries?

>>22541954
Notes
KT

>>22541814
>That guy that thinks the 25th would be an appropriate release date is kind of fooling himself.
I actually was believeing it would be an update or teaser, release is too much optimistic even to my standards.
But I kinda lost the hope after reading some info, so I guess I came back to reality.

Oh, one good think I discovered from the part 2 from Fate/Grand Shit.
It seems at some point, Sion wanted to install Barrel Replica inside Mashu's Shield Bunker.
What do you think about it? Does it indicate any further reference to early TM?
Barrel Replica just like Black Barrel is a weapon that only affects beings with large lifespans, like a % based on HP attack. And we know that things that have large lifespan are usually Types or something alike.

>>22542234
Why yes I am very excited Nasu is going to use ancient lore again to deal with a new villain of the year he introduced recently in the final chapter just like he used primate murder to deal revive mashu

>>22541954
From our perspective or by the overall majorities?
Regardless, the answer is Mahoyo, even though /tmg/ does treat it well.

>>22542234
Every use of old concepts in FGO has been distasteful at best, and abhorrent at worst.
Jesus, why couldn't it be a non-canon cashcow spinoff to not be taken seriously, why?
Don't use the exucse that doing that would make it suddenly impossible to be successful, shit like DBH disproves that.

>>22542234
>Sion wanted to install Barrel Replica inside Mashu's Shield Bunker
hawt

>>22542844
How big is Sion's Barrel? Will it fit in Mashu's Bunker?

>>22542750
Because Nasu actually believes FGO is some of his best work

>>22543523
It is a CZ 75 handgun.

>>22542739
>Regardless, the answer is Mahoyo, even though /tmg/ does treat it well.
Is that really fair to count though. Like 90% of the people can't even read it and like 99% of the western type-moon fanbase can't read it either.

>>22543537
well, it is

>this chair
>tohsaka anus

>>22544772
What did he mean by this?

>>22544783
I don't know about the chair, but the second one is obviously the same fallacy of the short and non relevant H scenes that FSN has.

>>22541814
Doesn't a game get play tested through out all of development?

Like if I had a build of the game with only 30 minutes of gameplay and did a test playthrough of that, wouldn't that still be play testing?

That's the impression when I read this, but maybe Visual Novel development is different....

>>22544772
Name a more iconic H-scene than Tohsaka's anus.

>>22544826
Every fucking battle scene, I guess?

>>22544818
It is not that VN development is different.
Software development has a professional method in general.
>Analyzing the problem
>Market research
>Gathering requirements for the proposed >business solution
>Devising a plan or design for the software-based solution
>Implementation (coding) of the software
>Testing the software
>Deployment
>Maintenance and bug fixing
I mean, considering Nasu has money to pay professional programmers, I assume they follow it.

>>22544832
>more iconic H-scene
Anon pls read

>>22544858
Why the fuck would we care about H-scenes though.
That's not a fucking nukige.

>>22544871
Type Moon's h scenes are hilarious. Easily among the best out there.

>魔法使いの夜インストールディスクが確認できませんでした。もう一度チェックしますか
Any help on solving this check error? I've already tried installing through PowerISO and tried two different DC torrents.

>>22544884
>魔法使いの夜インストールディスクが確認できませんでした。もう一度チェックしますか
Use daemon tools.
Also check if your locale is in Japanese or not.

>>22544790
this chair is when Shiki goes ballistic over a chair in the mansion hallway. As you can see, it's just "this chair" repeated over and over again. This was when he was under SHIKI's influence I think. I don't remember what route though.

>>22544871
...It's an eroge. Lol.

>>22544963
No, it is not. Realta Nua changed it.
If you want to stick with the old version not even the author likes, that's your own problem.

>>22544954
Oh that.
He should learn how to write a mental breakdown in psycho from Ryukishi.

>>22544977
>stick with the old version
I will as most on here would. Changing the dialogue and removing the sexual assault made Heaven's Feel a worse experience and lessened the impact. You can stick with your worse PG version.

>>22545000
Well, don't complain then when things like TsukiR or Mahoyo gets no resources because the majority of the public spits on VNs for its bad reputation on being fap material only (which is a lie).
Nobody downloads and read TM VNs with fapping in mind. That is not what made TM famous initially.

Did Nasu lose it or were his best works just a fluke?

>>22545024
He converted to some religion that made him "realize" how edgy he was and now he wants to just chill and make happy stories.
Quoting him "the old Nasu has died already".

>>22545016
Well, don't complain when TsukiR has all of its non-PG content removed because the majority of its fanbase is already used to that with FGO, which is blatant fap material more so then FSN ever was.
Nobody downloads and reads TM VNs at all anymore. FSN and Tsukihime sold as much as they did despite being eroge, and the bogged down Realta Nua version was a product of TMs spiral into wanting to be PG, which resulted in their happy-go-lucky stories such as, you'll never guess, FGO.

At least Heaven's Feel movies realized the mistake of Realta Nua in removing these scenes and they started adding them back somewhat. You're currently defending the reactionaries against Sakura showing a bit of skin and Shirou showing his bod in the movies.

>>22545046
Who's the green twintail

>>22545059
An Ahnenerbe maid.

>>22545059
>>22545066
Ok he's right, but thats not a complete answer. It's part of the TM website OCs, they also got a spin-off manga called Mahoutsukai no Hako.

https://typemoon.fandom.com/wiki/Chikagi_Katsuragi

>>22545054
>FSN and Tsukihime sold as much as they did despite being eroge
That's my point.
>and the bogged down Realta Nua version was a product of TMs spiral into wanting to be PG
Unironically enough, that was a response to the public actually disliking the H scenes because they were all badly written and mostly non sensical with the progress of the story. Besides Sakura route, nothing needed those scenes.
>which resulted in their happy-go-lucky stories such as, you'll never guess, FGO
This is the effect from having someone as Takeuchi as a CEO. Making a mobage was his idea and all fanservice is unreasonable things he imposes on the artists. But frankly, I don't mind a mobage being fanservicy. It is a predatory game, it is meant to appeal to peoples dicks.
>At least Heaven's Feel movies realized the mistake of Realta Nua in removing these scenes and they started adding them back somewhat. You're currently defending the reactionaries against Sakura showing a bit of skin and Shirou showing his bod in the movies.
Like I said, only HF has a reason for having them.

Do you guys think we're getting her route with the remake?
Honestly is the only reason why I'm looking foward to the Remake, I want to see if the meme of "Route-less" Sacchin ends.

>>22545120
Yeah we're probably not getting the fucking remake ever.

>>22545101
>That's my point.
But you want to remove that aspect?
>Besides Sakura route, nothing needed those scenes.
Yet you defend the very thing that removed them?
>This is the effect from having someone as Takeuchi as a CEO. Making a mobage was his idea and all fanservice is unreasonable things he imposes on the artists. But frankly, I don't mind a mobage being fanservicy. It is a predatory game, it is meant to appeal to peoples dicks.
All of this is conjecture. Nobody ever provides a source for this BS. Nasu literally stepped in to write singularities after people realized FGO singularities were shit. You can't cope and say its the one big bad boogieman Takeuchi imposing this BS on artists and that they don't want to do it or whatever. I guarantee you they are very happy with the paycheck they are receiving for drawing huge milkers. And it wasn't his idea, it was Delightworks. Seethe.
>Like I said, only HF has a reason for having them.
And yet you defend the thing that removed them. So much logic.

>>22545120
Don't ask too much. We don't even know if we will get the Near Side only version.

>>22545154
Nearside only version is the manga. Ciel doesn't need her own route anyway.

>>22545142
Don't be cruel anon.
At this point they either announce a date or drop more info, heck, even Valve was quicker than these guys
>>22545154
That would be so sad.
Maybe they'll release the game in parts, a first part with the Near Side and other with the Far side.
But being honest here, I don't have much faith for now.
>>22545157
I think she does, she has potential and I would love to know more about the burial agency and Ciel's past.
Also a flashback about how she developed her love for curry could be fun

>>22545150
>But you want to remove that aspect?
Why you should stain the image of your work with porn if you sold it in spite of said porn?
>Yet you defend the very thing that removed them?
I don't remember the complete removal happening, aside from transforming hardcore porn to softcore/erotic scenes. If they removed and created something else that has nothing to do with the story, than I agree with you on HF route at least.
>Nasu literally stepped in to write singularities after people realized FGO singularities were shit.
Which were just less shit btw, they are still horrible.
>conjecture
From the most recent interview on Famitsu, the 4th anniversary one, which can be found in this link https://www.famitsu.com/news/201910/05182695.html
"With regards to Artoria Lily, Santa Alter, and Emiya Alter, it was Takeuchi’s fault. They were extraneous from a scenario perspective so it wasn’t a writer’s idea. Just Takeuchi going “I want a cute character” and “I want an Alter for Emiya”. For example, the writer’s side wouldn’t suggest an Emiya Alter since an Emiya fallen to evil couldn’t be said to be Emiya. But since Takeuchi wanted it, they rethought the matter and came up with a special case where it could be possible."
"Has Nasu ever said no to Takeuchi’s wishes? Nasu: “I reject most of them! I go, “it’s impossible so stop it”. But he won’t listen to me…"
I invite you to read some interviews where they are both answering. You will understand how Takeuchi works very fast.
>I guarantee you they are very happy with the paycheck + it was Delightworks
The fact that people who work for TM just agree with Takeuchi doesn't remove his responsibility from this. He gives the final word, therefore, his fault will be just as proportional as to how much authority he has.

>>22545150
>And it wasn't his idea, it was Delightworks.
Correction for myself, It was Aniplex that proposed the idea but Delightworks might have been the one who made it into a mobage (plus they are the ones who keep it running, so they are to blame anyway).

And just to add more salt on the wound, Nasu was the one who initially proposed the MMO which was scraped. Some concepts were reused in Apoc, and the initial concept was revisited for FGO.

Seethe.

>>22545157
>Ciel doesn't need her own route anyway.
Fuck you.

how do you pronounce tsukihime?

>>22545212
The MMO would have been just as bad. MMOs are all fucking garbage.

>>22545212
>Nasu was the one who initially proposed the MMO which was scraped
Which is not the same thing as doing a mobage. You know how much it would fail if it was an MMO.

>>22545230
https://vocaroo.com/6TWbL1GTBly

>>22545230
つきひめ

>>22545210
>Why you should stain the image of your work with porn if you sold it in spite of said porn?
Because the changed product wasn't the same as the original? And the image wasn't stained. Fate and Tsukihime both sold hundreds of thousands, close to millions.
>softcore/erotic scenes
The dolphins and the dragon. They aren't great either. DESU I would have preferred an allusion to sexual intercourse happening and then skipping to the next day. At least it would solidify that both have a relationship from that point onward.

With the way Realta Nua works, it ends like your typical shounen. There isn't a kiss scene, and it's never explicit if they are actually in a relationship or not, just implied. UBW as an example here, but Rin never really responds to Emiya's confession (of course, until they have sex, which doesn't happen in Realta Nua).

And it's just sad that after all the development Saber goes through in the Fate route, she never gets to experience real love, or BE herself because that's what she forfeit when she became king. She forfeits all that was her as a woman, or as a human being even, in favor of ruling. When she finally realizes there's more to life then that, she can't even get some. Just sad.

This is hella boring because it just is. It's tropey as hell and isn't realistic either. It just serves to cocktease.

Oh, and the HF manga kept the raunchy dream sex scene and made it even worse than the VN. Of course, there's no nudity, but it goes on for an entire chapter and its borderline H. Strongly recommend.
https://rawmanga.top/Fate-Stay-Night-Heaven%27s-Feel/30/27
>Which were just less shit btw, they are still horrible.
No argument there.
>You will understand how Takeuchi works very fast.
You can't just assume everything is his fault. Some of them might be, but you can't just look at a game addition and say "Oh yea, Takeuchi is an entrepreneur personality, therefore this HAS to be his idea." That's the definition of conjecture.
>The interview
I'll forfeit. Though all the big titty waifus in FGO definitely aren't Takeuchi's fault. Some probably are.

>>22545310
>And the image wasn't stained
Never heard of "Fate? You mean that porn game?" meme?
>The dolphins and the dragon. They aren't great either. DESU I would have preferred an allusion to sexual intercourse happening
I actually agree with you, regarding all this part you did. I, by no mean, defend the the Dragon and the Dolphins (although they give good information to some lore elements, but could be used at other scenes). The way Mirror Moon made the skip on H scenes on Tsukihime was indeed the ideal approach.
>You can't just assume everything is his fault.
Well indeed, Nasu being a pussy and agreeable as fuck is also at fault. But to deny someone as powerful as Takeuchi isn't at least making a rather significant influence is to be blind. I have no reason to defend Takeuchi here, and you shoudn't as well.
>Though all the big titty waifus in FGO definitely aren't Takeuchi's fault.
Well, he prefer pettankos after all. I wouldn't say he caused all of them, but rather that he allowed them very easily.

>>22545016
You know the Japanese public is what matters, right?

>>22545120
You do realize, anon, that the Sacchin who will get her route won’t be the Sacchin you like, but a new version of the character?

>>22545407
Oh, gosh... don't even mention the japanese, the problem they caused by transforming themselves in smartphone-only-fags is even more impactful.

>>22545430
I do realize it, and it pains my heart, but even if thats the case I just want to see a Sacchin, any Sacchin be happy and get the happy ending she deserves.
Oh my Sacchin!, my pure and innocent Sacchin.

>>22545477
>my pure and innocent Sacchin.
OP I'm starting to think you, uh, didn't play through all of Tsukihime. Or your memory is fading.

>>22545490
>OP
Reddit has corrupted me. Forgive me anons.

>>22545490
I just wrote that to be poetic don't pay attention to it.

>>22545477
She doesn't become a vampire in the anime,
Now which anime I am talking about?
That's a good question.

>>22544899
My first two installments were through daemon tools lite 10.11. Time and locale is in Japanese.

>>22545503
In Carnival Phastasm she appears in both human and vampire version iirc.

>>22545490
Sacchin did nothing wrong. Everyone has to eat.

do they ever explain why some dead apostles are more benign and don't need to eat people just to survive?

>>22545093
The manga is an adaptation of the audio drama.
I wouldn't call the audio drama a spin-off, it's its own story set in the Tsukihime world.

>>22545666
Every DA consumes human blood.
I assume Zelretch and the other less cuntish DAs just have standards when it comes to picking their prey.

>>22545430
Like in MB? Sacchin was amazing there.

>>22545490
I was confused a little, did she get twisted into the monster she would eventually become or was she like that from birth?

>>22545517
Installed it again through daemon lite tools and copied the 初回認証回避用 folder and the patch before starting the check for the first time and still no luck. Would finding a WOHN serial code solve this issue?

>>22545120
Do people actually like Sacchin? She's barely in the VN and dies abruptly as she's introduced.

Takeuchi is a cancer

>>22545120
My expectations for the remake are that it will likely be truncated in some form, and I really, really doubt we're getting the original vision of 5 routes + Sacchin.

Who knows, maybe there won't even be routes.

>>22545994
Frankly, I think they will archive it and maybe use some of the designs for FGO limited gacha.
Getting a collab like KnK would be the most realist approach.
Anything else is just fantasy and dreams now.

>>22545024
There's probably too many good ones for it to be a fluke.

>>22546011
I doubt it. There's nothing really to suggest such a thing would happen.

Mind you, some part of me wants to see the remake go down in flames due to years of butthurt.

>>22545764
No, she became a vampire. The whole point of a Sacchin route like people ask for is to help her while she is in that state.

>>22545697
You got a link for where I can take a look at that? I can't find it in the download links in OP.
I didn't realize there was a manga adaptation, and I'd really like to check it out, because I'm not competent enough to listen to the drama CDs in Japanese, but I might be able to read the manga.

>>22545764
She was stalking Shiki at night and thought the serial killer vibes he was givin off were cool, so it’s safe to assume she was never quite right in the head to begin with.

>>22545965
Cute girl with a sad backstory that has a tragic ending. Not really hard to understand.

>>22546190
>and thought the serial killer vibes he was givin off were cool, so it’s safe to assume she was never quite right in the head to begin with.
That's every girl though. The situation just facilitated just sped up her thinking like that.

>>22546190
Not at all. She was in love with him ever since he saved her from when she was locked up in the classroom? It was someplace, i remember. They were going to freeze to death and the place was locked.

>>22546553
Is this trope of "save someone and that someone will be in love" based on something real? I saved a lot of girls in my life from real big shit and they all ignored me hard after.

>>22546569
you simply weren't attractive

>>22546569
...Yes. I think so. If I remember correctly, the day after they walked home together, she became a vampire. Might be head-canon, but she might have said something alluding to a potential confession extremely soon.
>>22546410
>>22546593
We aren't incels. Let's not give into the eroge stereotype, thanks.

>>22546569
It is real. Look up the suspension bridge effect.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cRgYOQLMyP8

>>22546869
>suspension bridge effect
I'm pretty sure that's a meme at this point. But then again, this is a VN, and it's already out of the bounds of reality so...

>>22546885
What is it even supposed to be? And also
>TRUMP Phantasm
...do they not realize? uh

>>22546904
>What is it even supposed to be?
Comiket merchandising
>...do they not realize? uh
Is that a USA thing? Cause I am not american and have no idea what you're talking about. I suppose the japanese in question also is the same.

>>22546917
You have to be completely alienated from society to now know what Donald Trump is, and I'm 100% sure you're taking the piss out of me because I'm not American either. Japan is closely allied with the US, and news with North Korea and US pops up a lot due to tension and their failed missile prototypes.

>>22546917
>Comiket merchandising
Captain Obvious, sir, I was speaking to what exactly the merchandise is. If its just a bunch of art, then who gives a shit.

>>22546942
I am not talking about the person, but whatever you said was the problem.
The word Trump is not alone related to the president, so I guess there is something else on the video that people don't know.

>>22546976
The word trump doesn't even make sense together with phantasm nor fit the context of the video at all. And again, there's a million more fitting things then "Trump", one affiliated with a US president and a completely unfitting word.

Look, the Japanese ain't this stupid right.

>>22546989
Dude, trump means the highest ranked card in whatever card game. If you pay attention to the video, you can see the 4 suits, clubs, hearts, diamonds and spades. The merchandising is related to not only cards based on Type Moon franchises with doujin art but other things.
Try to be less paranoic with your own political issues in your country, please, this is not even the place for it.

>>22547008
>I'm not American either.

>>22547032
lol the more reason then to not bring the subject

>>22547044
Yeah you're right, if someone ever brings up Nero I can't mention the historical figure because I'm just not Roman or related to the Romans.

>>22547052
Well, when Trump becomes a servant, I guess you can do it.

>>22547052
Anon, you don't get it. Your reaction was so, so much offtopic and not related to the video that it was actually embarassing. Even if you don't know card game language, just watching the video already tells you it has nothing to do with some president nobody cares about in a otaku thread.
Just stop please.

>>22545037
>He converted to some religion that made him "realize" how edgy he was
didn't fgo start out with Olga suffering infinite death is that not edgy?

>>22547074
>Your reaction was so, so much offtopic
This thread is so dead, that I welcome it.

>>22547089
Detailed aspects of the story are not actually written by him until Camelot I think.
But what I meant it the main message of the story and to which ending it is pointing at.
You make an edgy scene in FGO is just drama building.

>>22547089
>didn't fgo start out with Olga suffering infinite death is that not edgy?
He didn't write that.

>>22547100
>This thread is so dead
New to /jp/?

>>22546885
slowpoke

>>22547100
Well, if its dead for ya, let's bring a new topic to the table:
The recurrent increase in numbers of Fujos in the Type Moon fandom, mainly by fault of FGO of course.
We all know Fate/Prototype will give them more ship material, so expect lot's of gay next year.

>>22546086
It only adapts the first audio drama. The first few chapter are original content.
There's also some sort of a summary
https://heavens-feel.com/starlitmarmaladevol1disc1translation.html
As for the second volume, I've seen a Chinese translation which sometimes was surprisingly on point after google translate.
https://mega.nz/#F!lI0URQpY!hxBgr40BBq6DCVDaoZgbyw
The link also has the 4koma. There are references to other HibiChika audio dramas but I haven't seen any translations of them.

>>22547131
I already posted it threads ago, I just reposted because the song and the rare art of Notes is nice.

>>22547119
>New to /jp/?
No? I've been here a while. Maybe its just this time of the year, but there hasn't been much interesting talk. It doesn't help that the only thing we've gotten has been the announcement of an online TM manga magazine of which no new manga are being added, just stuff most of us have already read and the GO adaptations.

>>22547112
>>22547114
No I am pretty sure he did write the prologue every list of who wrote what chapter the I've see has Nasu as the writer for singularity f

>>22547147
Well, we limit ouserlves to pre-extra typemoon, which is the dead part of typemoon, so you could say we will be equally as dead until something like mahoyo or tsukiR appears.
>>22547164
Even if he did not write anything, he stilll checks and aprove anything, makind necessary changes when necessary.

>>22547138
Unless you follow it, you won't get it. I'm not homophobic so I could care less that people are shipping characters.

And if Fate/Prototype does come out next year like everyone is expecting, then fuck fujos who cares, we are finally getting good content.

>>22547141
I see. That's a little disappointing, I'd already read that summary and was hoping to get a grasp on Vol. 2.
Well, thanks anyway! I appreciate it.

>>22547179
Oh, I didn't mention it in a depreciating manner. I actually like BL although being heterossexual.
What I asked for is your opnion about women liking TM works now, which was a scarce thing before, if you feel happy, neutral or hate it, etc.

>>22547215
>now
I thought women loved Archer and Lancer since F/SN

>>22547280
They did, but it was the only option at the time.
Today we have even more options in a very sexualized game, so the diversity of women and their number would increase naturally.

>>22547213
What's funny, vol2 isn't the end. There should've been at least one more volume. The story isn't finished and never will. Typical Type Moon.

>>22547215
>women liking TM works now
Fate has always had empowering characters and fap bait for girls ever since FSN, so I doubt that any there will be much of a boost in that department.

And honestly, I don't really care. As long as we get new content.

>>22547112
What? He wrote the plot outline, events, the prologue (which had that edgy death), personally all Roman scenes and Chaldea stuff, along with character dialogue in some cases (like Marie and Mozart in Orleans).

>>22547440
Empowering characters are the focus of Fujos. And feminists never liked japanese protagonists. Fujo likes to relationships or the thought of them happening and FGO gives a lot of options for that to happen.

>>22547486
>Empowering characters are the focus
are not the focus*

>>22546989
>Look, the Japanese ain't this stupid right.
Nasu named a coffee shop after a Nazi think tank.

>>22547499
...
I am getting out of this thread for today, bye.

>>22547138
What about the chicks who like Prototype but aren't fujos?

I just like chuuni, harem shit with a female protagonist.

>>22547499
Wouldn't be the first time a Japanese author came out as a Nazi sympathizer.

>>22547499
wtf I love Nasu again

Holy shit.

>>22547666
I doubt there are big groups of chicks who actually know Prototype while not being fujos.
Heck, I doubt they even know Fate at all.

https://type-moon-museum.com/exhibition/
Lazy machine translation:

1. The face of TYPE-MOON
Based on the desk where Kinoko Nasu actually worked, the workplace was reproduced.
The TYPE-MOON office, which has been wrapped in a veil, will be released along with the desks of all staff.
2. History of TYPE-MOON spelled with materials and productions
From TYPE-MOON's huge works, to valuable event-limited goods
Public at once. And how is that profound world created?
Exhibit creative techniques with a vast amount of development materials.
3. How to make “Fate / stay night”
Numerous characters, images, sounds, and productions that color “Fate / stay night”.
The world will bear fruit as a game, and will continue to spread.
4. Gallery “TYPE-MOON”
Many illustrations that TYPE-MOON has drawn so far,
New exhibit. For the book “Return to AVALON”
Part of the series “British Travel”, which was drawn down, is also on display.
5. TYPE-MOON and our time
The world of TYPE-MOON and “Fate / stay night” is a wide range of derivative works and media developments.
Along with three-dimensionalization, it continues to expand. Introducing the footprints and designs.
6. Fuyuki City; Day & Nightmare
With a huge projection mapping and diorama that spans 13 meters in length,
Reproduces the full view of Fuyuki City. “Fate / stay night” and “Fate / hollow ataraxia”
An overview of the entire story.
7. “Carnival” illusion
Cover of a magazine that TYPE-MOON characters have decorated for over 15 years.
Messages from people who support TYPE-MOON. At commemorative events
A note made by a related person. Release valuable items from TYPE-MOON.

TL;DR On the 15th anniversary, we will have a Type-Moon museum exhibition.

>>22548686
oh boy, I can't wait to look at a replica of Nasu's desk!

i love fgo

>>22549869
me too, absolutely kino and better than any other TM work

>>22550044
lostbelt is goat

>>22544884
Would really appreciate if someone could help me fix this issue.

>>22548492
I was talking about myself.

You are kinda right abut that second part, though. Sadly. The only Fate they know of is Fate/Grand Order and they only care about cute boys.

>>22548186
I really wanted to hate her cause she felt like another rendition of Medea, but the more I read scenes with her the more I realize she's actually Medea but done well. Even her relationship with the fake, fake priest was well done.

>>22547300
Who the fuck likes FGO original dudes? They're all lame geeks.

>>22548686
>TYPE-MOON
>History of the company
>Not a single mention of Tsukihime or exhibition dedicated to it
I think its time we throw the white flag boys. Even if it is Fate 15th anniversary, they decided to make zero homage to it even when pairing it with company history. Their own fucking museum.

Nasu does mecha when?

>>22551027
Because Tsukihime is cringe

>>22551035
He already did with Notes.
He already did with Moon Cell.
He already did with Charles Babage on FGO.
He will do now with Zeus Nanomachines in FGO. Greek lostbelt PV will be out this mont, so stay tuned.

>>22550603
Considering your reveal,I am man, but I actually like to be friends with fujos and normal japanese culture engaged girls.
I was friends with this fujo and she was lots of fun to be with but we got parted because of life changes. I wanted to meet new girls who had same interests, even if we consume such interests differently.
So, because of it, I started thinking: what about creating a Fate BL/otome centered group? Not that it would be limited to women only, but rather that it would be a free paradise for things that I know girls feel shy to do and also pressured because of common mantard retaliation. What do you think?

>>22550893
Lots of girls. There was this debate about Enkidu being a bothersome element in GIlgamesh original story because it disturbed the "perfect" GillgameshXOzymandias ship they did.

>>22551027
The Carnival illusion part is related to Carnival Phantasm, so at least that will have some non-Fate related material.

>>22551027
its time to move to another company, there are a lot of good vns if not better than the TM ones.

>>22554141
Citation needed.

>>22554141
Well VN companies are basically dropping like flies these days so I'm not sure if it's feasible to "move to another company", but it is true there are plenty of other good VNs out there worth reading.

>>22554141
Ahn, I would create a Light general to talk about the recent Silverio VNs while playing with the closed Dies Irae.
But I still have to read them, so I need some time.

>>22554156
>>22554156
>>22554184
Muv-Luv and Age. That series is still kicking (or as they said in the recent announcement livestream, "Still Breathing"). They just announced a new VN game that's supposedly tying all the spin-off characters into one thing, sort of like if Tsukihime/Mahoyo/KnK characters all came together. It's called Muv-Luv Integrate, but if you haven't touched the series I really recommend you don't look it up to not get spoiled. Oh and Muv-Luv itself is a masterpiece but I don't have to state that as the entire internet already has.

The spin-off's source isn't translated, but if you're not an EOP you can hop into the Total Eclipse VN/LN, though the story was concluded in the VN, so I recommend reading both (for us EOPs, there's a manga currently ongoing which adapts the source with the new content from the VN). Schwarzesmarken also has a well-received VN/LN (VN and LN are the same material here). Both these have anime adaptations, but from the general community, these are seen as subpar for various different reasons.

It's good to note that the series is still getting official translations, with the Muv-Luv Photonflowers fan-disc releasing on Steam only a couple of months ago.

Oh and a remake of their first successful VN, Kimi Ga Nozomu Eien, in the same vein as if TM was remaking Tsukihime, but I'm pretty sure Age will actually follow through and publicly cancel it if need me, not keeping us waiting for years.

And as someone just stated while typing this, Dias Irae is complete/getting completed soon (IDK, I haven't read em) and those are extremely well-received.

>>22554299
Fuck I really need to read Muv-Luv one day.

>>22554313
First part of Muv-Luv is a chore, but it's so worth going through for the rest of it, and at the end of it all you gain some appreciation for the first part. It gave me the same feeling as the TM VNs did of wanting to read at any time that I could, I finished it all in what seems like record time.

>>22554299
I am the one who talked about Dies Irae.
My big issue with some names there (might be my prejudice) is my complete inability to like futuristic/mecha stories.
I am more of a guy who like religion/pre-19th century things which is why Light seems to be one of the only better choices.
One of the things that actually made me addicted to TM is its Church, which is the least developed part of the universe. If you happen to know something with a Church centered story, I'm sold.

ML is the most overrated VN series ever.
People wank over it due to the combinations of all sorts of chunni motifs and tropes.
Then you grow up, and realise how silly it all is.
The characters also aren't anything special.

>>22554362
>People wank over it due to the combinations of all sorts of chunni motifs and tropes.
>Then you grow up, and realise how silly it all is.
I feel like i've heard this before... oh wait. It's the exact same stupid vapid argument used against Type-Moon VNs. Literally no self-awareness.

>>22554465
Except it is actually applicable this time.
It does not really apply to TM.

>>22554480
>chunni motifs and tropes
>It does not apply to TM.
...Seriously? Chuuni motifs and tropes apply much more to anything TM then Muv-Luv as a whole. It's far from chuuni. This argument feels so stupid. It genuinely feels like you might not even have read past the first part.

>>22554496
Can the details, it just isn't that special.
Don't compare it to things that are actually worthy.

>>22554352
>my complete inability to like futuristic/mecha stories
It's not futuristic, its "alternative" to our time, and is actually more regressed. It's more post-apocalyptic then anything. The mecha part is definitely a huge part of it, and it definitely satisfies whoever likes that kind of deep worldbuilding, but it's so built into its own world that you shouldn't be too bothered by it. I like to think its use is in the same vein as Evangelion, as its a general part of combat and what the characters use and what propels events forwards, but the main focus of the VN is more on the characters and specifically the MC.

>>22554549
Unless it has some renascentism though to it, will be hard to catch my eye. I mean, it probably have lots of modern ambients like nowadays japan, which is already a minus for me.
Maybe when I get tired of pre-19 and religion I start liking some mecha I will get to it.

>>22554352
Oh shit I forgot to say, but you would probably be interested in something like Hellsing. I don't know much VNs as whole and I don't know exactly what would fit that niche.

>>22554566
>modern ambients like nowadays japan
Oh uh, definitely not. It's more of Japan if democracy never established itself after WWII. So there's still a Shogunate. Extra, the first part, is modern Japan, but it's just a plotless romcom which you shouldn't really take seriously. That's the part everyone thinks is a chore.

>>22554571
Hellsing is indeed something I should touch but...VNs? Does Hellsing have VNs?

>>22554596
>Does Hellsing have VNs?
Nah. Just the manga and the anime. You got a real specific niche there lmao.

>>22554600
They are very vast at least with doujin and H.

>>22554646
Is there niche that *isn't* vast in doujin and H?

>>22554671
Yes, old TM, as an example.
Try to find more than 500 mahoyo results, I dare you.

>>22554679
I'm fairly happy with what Mahoyo gets.

>>22554671
A semi-decent Touko doujin.

>>22555445
That ain't possible, every angle you could go for is awful, and then anything outside of that is OOC.
Not to mention it's Dirty Red.

>>22554299
You know that age was literally one step from being fucking dead right? all the recent stuff only happened because Kouki decided it can't fucking end like this. He got a bunch of new staff, and while they jokingly referred to themselves as "eroge avengers" at first, they switched to "eroge suicide squad" because it fits better and is funnier. The new mobile game isn't even going to have gacha.

>>22553719
>what about creating a Fate BL/otome centered group
Oh please no. Those tend to turn into hugboxes. Plus women go full moronic too, just look at the BL/Otome threads we already have in /jp/. Just give me a Prototype adaptation so I can leave Fate's shackles and I'll be fine.

>>22556405
isn’t Proto a shit?

>>22556672
A shit in what way? It has some of that old Nasu edginess and chuunishit. Plus I get to see Misaya, Perseus, and his Master get screentime.

It's great, to be honest.

>>22556405
Well, women going full moronic is something I actually like to see~
Also, wouldn't this thread be a hugbox in the end as well?
Also, Proto adaptation might be already in the works, we might have it as part of collab big event in FGO, much like Lord El-Melloi.

>>22556672
I think most dramas and novels, even those related to FGO, like the Dantes story, are pretty acceptable to being actually good. I mean, they actually focus on the story, have good artwork and soundtrack. No gacha bullshit, just pure art.

>>22557342
>wouldn't this thread be a hugbox in the end as well?
You got me there, though /tmg/ whiny is different from the /blog/ whiny. Plus they shit on Shirou.

And rather than Prototype, it would be Fragments that gets animated. I wouldn't mind though, since we get to see the characters in their natural adaptation rather than through FGOshit.

>>22557354
God I forgot Dantes actually looked normal before he got DESPAIR'd.

>>22555627
>You know that age was literally one step from being fucking dead right?
So? They are definitely still alive. And the new mobile game is going to have steam release to.
>The new mobile game isn't even going to have gacha.
Why is this a bad thing lmao.

Hello guys, I am here on MORE REASONS TO QUIT THIS SHIT news for you! Note like most of recent TM news, a new department that has the name TYPE MOON attached to it still only have FGO updates!
>Fate/type Redline 帝都聖杯奇譚 (A remake of Koha-Ace GO focus on the HGW storyline)
>Fate/Grand Order フロムベルト ("From Lostbelt" a side story focus on the crypters)
>Fate/Grand Order 英霊食聞禄 (A FGO cooking manga)
>All of them will star on December 20th, also FGO EoR Seraph manga has been move to this magazine.
See? Next 3 mangas will be FGO focused! Isn't this wonderful?! Isn't this EXACTLY what you have been asking for?!?
>sarcasm

>>22559054
>Fate/Grand Order 英霊食聞禄 (A FGO cooking manga)
The fuck? Who asked for this?

>>22559054
>>Fate/Grand Order 英霊食聞禄 (A FGO cooking manga)
Wow, so they are even trying to replace Emiya Gohan now. This is truly the worst timeline.

>>22559054
>it's real

What the fuck is wrong with Nasu, unironically?

>>22559080
Would FGOtards even like it though? I guess their favorite character might get some more screentime, but I don't think anyone that likes FGO actually likes it for things like character interactions or dialogue.

>>22559109
Some quote reactions from it:
>cooking manga? are we finally getting chaldea kitchen/fgo carnival phantasm then? fuck yeah looking forward to that.
>Hell yes Today's Menu for the Chaldea Organization!
>All of these sound great I love cooking in fate and I'd love to know more about the crypters especially Kadoc and Ophelia
>All of them sound so cool! I'm most excited for the koha-ace remake and cooking manga for some chill fanservice of all the servants!

>>22559120
Well, I guess that's why I don't run a company that makes billions of yen per year in revenue. Sasuga Takeuchi.

>>22559109
The opposite, actually. Extrafags' only defense for their game is that the character interactions are amazing, but IMO that's a straight up lie. And FGO borrows the same VN structure, all character dialogue and no exposition, and all the event singularities are basically all character interations.

>>22559153
In defense of Extra and Extella as well, they actually have more narrative moments that are even in NVL mode. They are shit indeed, because the story is shit, but the method don't.
Now, regarding FGO, you will only have narration depending on the author (and usually only when Nasu writes something, which is like, 20% of the time). Even then you have that shit hud with no NVL at all.

For those who want to check more info about the manga https://web-ace.jp/special/tmca/teaser/
there is also information about some protagonists.

Why not have class status to be gastronomy themed?

>>22559054
Only interesting one is the Crypters one cause they're actual characters.

>>22559647
They should be the protagonists frankly. Like instead of Fujimaru with and without dick, why not choose one of them?

Who are the other two Velber?
Genghis Khan and someone else?

>>22559081
>>22559109
Uro: I think that's the strength of TYPE-MOON, that it's supported by so many passionate creators. Like Marvel Comics (*6), who gave birth to X-Men (*5), I think it's a great idea to encourage even more spin-offs by talented creators. There aren't many other works that have so many spin-offs and anthology works, including Fate/Zero. I would even say that TYPE-MOON works are the closest thing Japan has to a Marvel Comics.

Nasu: Marvel Comics has so many spin-offs that they can't even keep track of things on their own anymore... everyone keeps widening the world and adding on these interesting parts to it, and if they're really good, the company goes and says "OK, that sounds cool. Let's make it official." Even from the user side, they say, "We want to see the X-Men from this work, not the original." It's really amazing how things have spiraled out that way. On one hand, while I still sometimes think "Wouldn't you rather use that skill for your own original creation?", I love being amazed by the different ways people interpret TYPE-MOON characters.

https://www.tsukikan.com/misc/nasu-kinoko-takeuchi-takashi-urobuchi-gen-special-forum.html

>>22560685
idolising Marvel is a one way ticket to killing any dignity TM has left

>>22560695
Zero killed TM.

>>22560697
I disagree, because Zero didn't create or at least didn't have the intention of creating a multiverse live Marvel.
The Marvel effect started to happen with Extra, which is exactly a what if scenario that shouldn't be more than a TTRPG session that you do with your friends and never remember afterwards.

>>22559054
>Isn't this EXACTLY what you have been asking for
Yes. TM is GO, anything else doesn't matter.

>>22560700
Zero was the first spinoff, even if it was technically a prequel.
Different writer, different approach.
It sold well, it got adapted, that sold enormously.
Extra was far less successful by comparison, even if it took the concept further.

>>22560721
Oh, if you put the alternate writers in the game, it does fit the criteria.

>>22560697
>2002
Melty Blood
>2003
Tsuki-Bako (Tsukihime, Plus Disc, KT)
>2004
Fate/stay night
>2005
Fate/hollow ataraxia
>2006
Fate/zero, DEEN anime
>2007
Realta Nua with DEEN voice cast and Fate/unlimited codes
>2008
three new games announced by TYPE-MOON, Mahoutsukai no Yoru, a remake of Tsukihime, and Girls' Work.
>2010
Fate/EXTRA
>2012
Mahoutsukai no Yoru
>2013
Fate/EXTRA CCC
>2015
Fate/Grand Order
>2016
Fate/Extella
>2019
Type-Moon creates a new platform for Type-Moon manga and it turns out their lineup of newly announced series are literally all FGO

What went wrong?

>>22560770
I blame extra for making Nasu do jRPGs non stop after.
And you?

>>22560770
>Girls' Work
I'm still mad
it could have been good

>>22544742
>Is that really fair to count though. Like 90% of the people can't even read it and like 99% of the western type-moon fanbase can't read it either.

EOPs are literally insane and will scream and bitch about anything without even stopping to think about it for half a fucking second.

Is the exhibition even worth going? Why the fuck are they splitting it into three parts?

>>22560783
Extra is my favorite to blame. And it's going to be remade for the third time now. Yay.

>>22560500
Nasu hasn't said and you'll never find out because extella 2 is in dev hell for some reason even though LINK was made to cross the bridge between the two. He'll probably just move it into FGO instead like everything else

>>22560770
Extra created Nero, and she's like the avatar of modern Fate with how awful she is.

>>22559054
Wait, someone correct me if I'm wrong but will this TM Comic Ace thing include the Tsukihime manga in their catalog for free? That's neat at least.

>>22561432
Yes that was announced right away, we'll get better scans at least.

I was expecting tmg to like that kohace remake, since it's unrelated to go and has new masters. Well , too bad i guess

>>22561528
>new Masters
>let's just get rid of Kohaku and all other Tsukihime characters in this story and keep trying to treat Okita and Nobu (goofy parody characters) as serious realy characters.

Koha-Ace has been terribly mishandled to pander to the FGO crowd.

strange Fake vol. 6

>>22561617
Will she finally die next volume?

>>22561589
>keep trying to treat Okita and Nobu (goofy parody characters) as serious realy characters.
Why not? They're Koha-Ace original characters after all. The original Koha-Ace is literally a gag manga and its characters are goofy as hell so with Redline, Keikenchi wants to make a serious HGW with the original servants.
>let's just get rid of Kohaku and all other Tsukihime characters in this story
And all other F/SN characters too, and this is a good thing honestly. Having character from a different franchise as one of the main characters in a new work is still a kind of fanservice/nostalgia pandering (like totally not Rin and Arcueid in Extra or Sion in FGO). The writer should just briefly mention them in the story, use them as guest/minor characters or mention them in Materials book (like Shirou/Illya/Sakura/Rin's fate in Apoc timeline got revealed in Apoc mats).
Also, what's wrong with new Masters? It's understandable that replacing Tsuki characters with original characters would make /tmg/ find it less interesting (since we are all suckers for Tsuki and Mahoyo contents) but i don't think this is a bad decision.

>>22560864
The biggest thing Fate tards don't understand is that when it comes down to animating a VN for a TV series, the priority lies in making it watchable as a stand alone.

An adaptation is not just there for the people who read FSN and FHA, it's there for everyone.

DEEN succeeds at this. Zero succeeds at this. UBW doesn't.

>>22545217
She unironically works better with Arihiko than with Shiki. Having Arihiko and Ciel as a couple of secondary protagonists would have been superior to the half-assed attempt at pairing her with Shiki.

Why haven't they been celebrating tsukihime?

>>22547138
The Type Moon fandom had lots of fujos ever since the original F/SN VN. Archer and Lancer were popular as fuck among them, especially since Rin served as a great self-insert for the otome types.

Fate/Stay Night: Heaven's Feel III - Spring Song will have a new announcement on December 19 21:00 JST on what seems to be this stream here:
https://abema.tv/channels/abema-anime/slots/CA5mxCTx9aWG7q

>>22561854
>New announcement
So, how much will you bet it is something FGO related?

>>22561812
What's Tsukihime? Some upcoming FGO event?

>>22561617
Thank god

>>22561880
Yes, they will create Kaguya servant and call it the Moon Princess festival, a Kaguya myth based event with lots of parodies

>>22561617
Is volume 6 the ending?

>>22561812
>Why haven't they been celebrating tsukihime?
Why would they?

>>22561986
The VN anniversary is 28th december, would be the 19th this year.

>>22561992
29th*

>>22559788
According to Nasu they aren't blank enough to get along with every servant in every singularity. Unlike Fujimaru, they have too much personality, and IIRC, only Kirchstaria would make it to Solomon. Which is fucking stupid.

>>22561992
>>22561996
And? Even if they still cared about Tsukihime , they wouldn't celebrate its 19th anniversary. Maybe the 20th. Maybe not.

>>22562189
>and IIRC, only Kirchstaria would make it to Solomon.

>For the last one, is it okay for me to ask my personal question? Say for example, if the protagonist didn't survive in the prologue, and someone from A-Team survived, what will happen to humanity? Is there anyone in A-Team who can successfully restore the Human Order?
>Nasu: There are two... I believe, it's either Kirschtaria Wodime or Daybit Sem Void. But in case of Daybit, he will get stuck after restoring humanity and won't be able to face off against the danger in year 2018.

>Kirschtaria will be able to hold on?
>Nasu: If its Kirschtaria he'll just make it? No, he'll be able to clear half of the threat from 2018 but he can't win since he's a Crypter. But, if we're just talking about restoring the Human Order, Kadoc might have a chance. No, nope. It's too much for Kadoc.

>Kadoc feels like he has a factor that'll let him become a protagonist. What do you think?
>Nasu: His plot armor (最後の運命力) is just a tad insufficient. If Anastasia works hard then maybe, but without Lostbelts he won't meet "that Anastasia." There are various reasons why the other faces would quickly fail.
TL;DR Daybit would make it to Solomon, Kadoc might have a chance but only with the Anastasia he met in LB1 while Kirsch could clear half of the threat from 2018 and his journey would stop here because he's a Crypter (shit is going to happen in LB5 i guess)

>>22561798
Untrue

>>22562362
Nasu's backward ass answers for Kadoc just brings back memories.

Oh well. I'd say I'd read fanfics of the Crypters going through the Singularities anyway cause who cares about the servants agreeing with a bank slate, but that would involve actually reading the Singularities.

>>22561918
Probably not. Narita himself said the series was planned to be finished in about 5 volumes like Zero (if memory serves right, the afterword of the 1st volume) when he initially pitched the idea to Nasu and Takeuchi, and at that time he already had the whole story planned out since the April Fools volume. And Nasu in his afterword in volume 1 said that it was definitely going to go on for longer then Narita thought, and that's holding true since volume 6 exists.

>>22562743
Oh, so Nasu looked at the story and decided "no you're going to write more things to fit this FGO thing I created"?

>>22562756
No, Nasu is barely touching Strange Fake. He meant as in Narita was being too ambitious in thinking it was going to be just 5 volumes, and that it was going to go on longer. Nothing to do with inserting FGO.

>Okita and Nobunaga gets a serious manga
>Remember Kohaku is Okitas master
>get happy
>actually nope heres new chracters fuck kohaku

Keikenchi how could you do this you were THE kohkau superfan and you betrayed us.

>>22559054
What even is the APPEAL of Koha Ace and why do gachafags like Okita aka Foot fetish saber and Nobunaga?

>>22563718
what?, Is this true?
Man, what an odd choice they could have created something interesting with Kohaku, maybe they didn't knew how to use her.

>>22562362
What the fuck does that even mean? The protagonist only survives because he literally doesn't do shit?

I'm so excited about Mahoyo 2. I wonder when will nasu anounce it. Would be a nice christmas surprise.

>>22563906
I too am excited to see more Alice, I just can't wait to see her again!

>>22563718
YOU WERE MEANT TO EMBRACE TYPE MOON BOT EMBRACE FATE SHIT

>>22563931
anon, I...

what the actual fuck is this fate/koha ace bullshit?

>>22564659
>Man I sure do like Fate
>but wait that bullshit rule where you cant summon Japanese servants sure is kinda shitty
>I got it ill get buddy buddy with nasu and he will let me make my OWN manga with all my cool japanese servants
>ill also flip flop from writing a comedy manga to a somewhat serious story but drawn lazily in chibi

>>22560685
>Nasu wants type-moon to be generic capeshit
Fuck this bullshit

>>22561786
>DEEN succeeds at this.
Why do contrarians keep repeating this meme? The DEEN anime is low budget garbage that butchers the source material.

>>22564826
Because this general acts like anything popular by typemoon is bad.

>>22564934
go back to /a/ or /vg/, your kind isn't welcome here

>>22564934
F/SN is literally one of the most popular VNs of all time and 99.9% of the people that post here like it.

>>22564934
Any derivative work that has no intention of making a serious approach on the Nasuverse expansion is considered bad.
Anime is just for promoting the original work. If you use it to overcome the original work, you're doing it wrong. If you want to correct anything on the original work just fucking make a new edition of it, don't use a limited media like anime.
All derivative works follow the same pattern, "being famous" in spite of doing the correct job.

>>22564943
Well that’s mean I understand you think servants and FGO ruined type moon but you can’t act like some wine sipping aristocrat when people prefer historical figures.

>>22561880
probably, we'll see next golden week

>>22563769
Nasu jerks Guda off so fucking hard because "He's just a normal dude lol". This fits right into his humanity fuck yeah Philosophy. The crypters aren't normal humans, they actually have spend years training their skills and developed unique and flawed personalities. In nasu's fucked up world view this means they will not get past Solomon.

I want her so bad bros..

>>22565517
Sorry bro. She'll be for Guda in a few months. Poor Shiki.

>>22565631
Has the number of doujins with Guda fucking Illya passed Shirou fucking Illya yet?

>>22565631
Guda will get a soulless variant of her. He will never have the OG!

>>22565412
It's such a fucking strange and upsetting stance.
And so freaking weird when you remember he wrote Mahoyo, whose whole thing character wise is "talented but flawed persons helping or/and antagonizing each other leading to learn how to overcome or compensate said flaws."
Might just be bullshit he came up with to justify his self insert that prints him money.

Mahoyo collab :

>Shizuki doesn't appear
>Alice falls for Guda
>Aoko is her CP self, lusting over young men and revealing she has been stalking Guda the whole time in hope to one day suck him off

I hate all of you.

>>22565835
>>22565412
Daybit can too. He'll be defeated on 2018 enemy (aka lostbelts).
And Kadoc if he gets plot armor/true love.

It makes sense: Ophelia doesn't have the willpower to do shit, Hinako doesn't give a shit to do shit, Pepe would agree with Goetia, and Roman hates Beryl so he'll never cooperate with him.

>>22565938
It doesn't make sense at all because in any healty and normal world view guda would be the least qualified person to make it through this shit. The only reason guda has so much willpower is because he is the protag, it makes zero fucking sense for him to not multiple mental breakdowns.

>>22559054
Is FGO dying or something? Why put out so much material?

F/SN 15th Anniversary exhibition goods
https://type-moon-museum.com/goods/
https://twitter.com/fate15th/status/1204687832951844866/
oh hey they remember KnK, Tsukihime, Melty Blood and Mahoyo too

>>22566883
Egh, I forgot how ugly this drawing was.

only goodie Shirou, why ?

>>22566224
Ophelia was worse than Mashu in the doll like department, a normal person with plot armor make more sense (I'll argue Kadoc had the same odds against Nasu's retarded explanation) but the Crypters that sure fail do make sense: Hinako doesn't give a shit about humanity so wouldn't even do anything to help, Pepe would probably pull through until Goetia tells him his reasons and plans and would agree with him (so he can't clear that), Beryl is fucked because he and Roman don't get along and to actually clear time temple you need to at least get Roman help or is impossible.

>>22560770
TM Should've stopped at 2006.

>>22567493
>Beryl is fucked because he and Roman don't get along and to actually clear time temple you need to at least get Roman help or is impossible.
would Roman really just let Goeita win just cause of Beryl

>>22567493
>Ophelia was worse than Mashu in the doll like department
Even worse since unlike Mashu, Ophelia is a master instead of a servant. Both of them used to live like a doll, a robot for the sake of other people but while Mashu had a pure mind like a newborn and genuinely didn't aware of the way people were treating/using her, Ophelia was fully aware of everything that happened to her life yet she couldn't get rid of it. She just kept living cowardly under the weight of other people's expectations for her (especially Kirsch and her parents). Not to mention her Mystic Eye and the typical magus mindset (e.g magi don't need friends or romantic feelings/emotion).

>>22567540
Beryl is a violent psycho rapist. There's no way Roman's going to let Mashu near him to help, and who would even get to assist him when he's just unlikable? I hate Guda but it makes sense Beryl would fail when he managed to piss off all the key allies before the Order begins.

>>22567821
>There's no way Roman's going to let Mashu near him to help,
fair enough it's just you mentioned the time temple so I was focused on that bit didn't even think about mash

>>22567837
It's also about Roman. I can't imagine how he'll act near Beryl during the entire mission. While every other Master has default his assistance (which is the most important point to beat Goetia), Beryl has minus affection points.

>Fate
I came here to laugh at you.

I've been replaying tsukihime, and I can't help but feel that Shiki is genuinely a rare example of a male tsundere. Aggressively so, mainly towards Arcueid and Arihiko.

Grand Order AU but the self insert and Mashu die, so its up to Kirchstaria and his demi-servant Ophelia to save the world.

>>22568220
No. The gacha niggers want allow protags with personalities. They are the TM audience now, not us.

>>22568267
There's gacha games with written protags, but it's rare because it requires your writers to give a shit and to be consistent. Both of which isn't the case for fgo. Shit, they managed to have guda's personality switch in agartha when he didn't even have a personality. It's been over 4 years and they still can't decide how the chaldea summoning systems actually works because the only reason it even exists is to do asspulls.

>>22568402
>they still can't decide how the chaldea summoning systems actually works
Yo that reminds me, why the fuck are villainous or anti-hero type servants summoned if the catalyst for summoning is "a place where Heroes gather"? Shouldn't it just BTFO any non-heroic spirit trying to answer the summoning?

>>22568474
I think it is because villains are not exactly against humanity.
I mean, they are against some humans, but not all humanity.

>>22568493
But they always talk about wanting to kill or torment their Master.What's the point of allowing yourself to be summoned and controlled by a human if you hate humans?

And then there are the nutcases like Kiyohime where the excuse of wanting to save humanity doesn't count. She's just a crazy bitch.

>>22568878
It's literally just to sell quartz to masochistic fetishists. They're not characters.

https://twitter.com/tentententensan/status/1204710524249788416
Ha.

>>22570301
Isn't she that berserker from Extra?

>>22570301
Because just being silent about it over years is not cruel enough, right?

>>22570301
They also did the same to Melty Blood, Kara no Kyoukai and Mahoyo covers.
God how I hate this company.

>>22570301
lmao
gotta admire how they really don't give a fuck

>>22570670
>>22570709
Oh so now when a company memes you take it to mean that they don't give a shit? Some small brains you guys have.

>>22570765
>memes
I am not laughing. I am actually pretty depressed, so go back to where you came and don't disturb please.

>>22570765
>a company memes
Either the ultimate cope or the ultimate shill. Can't tell.

>>22570765
memes? what the hell is your problem?
https://twitter.com/fate15th/status/1204687832951844866
read the fucking tweet and come back here and say to my face again this is a meme you asshole

>>22570958
Even everyone in the comments is mad lol

I've concluded that the part in HF before Dark Sakura appears is actually the most twisted thing Nasu has ever wrote. Reading everyone delude themselves into thinking everything is totally okay and they can make it is fucking depressing. Shirou's body is all fucked up and he random loses memories. Sakura is pretending it's all just a bad dream and she doesn't actually have to go eat people at night. And then there's of course the nice, heartwarming scenes where everyone is nice to each other and all that. That shit is fucked up.

They also did a drawing with necoarc and saber.
How they are related? Fucking nobody knows and by now fucking don't care

>>22571562
Because CP is Fate property now, how wonderful it is.

FATE

>>22570301

>>22570301

>>22571562
They also put Neko Arc together with Parvati and the Vegas event. 6 years ago I would have shrugged it off because Neko Arc was basically the company mascot, but she hasn't really been in that role for quite some time, so it feels more like half-assed pandering to the remnants of their old audience.

>>22571607
Neko Arc far predates CP.

>>22572021
Not many people know that these days.

>there are people who unironically believe this

>>22572162
Gilgamesh is based and the best fate character.

As much as I dislike nuArc, some artists can still sell me on it. Cute.

>>22573072
Remake Arc wouldn't be so bad if they just gave her back her hair and if Takeuchi wasn't drawing her. I know a lot of people get caught up in the granny skirt removal, but for me Arc was always about her very unique hair. It's just a damn shame they homogenized her so much.

But, yeah, been bitching about it for 7 1/2 years so I'm sure everyone and their mother knows my thoughts on it by now.

>>22572162
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xKq2iUIIc-U

>>22573072
I mean, I see why you would dislike the clothing change but it's still a remake, time changes, and so did fashion, most people would be weirded out by her dorky skirt and pullover.
Where they fucked up is going for full cute instead of modern dorky.

>>22572827
Based.

>>22573161
Still won all those wars though.

>>22573072
I see no reason to actually complain of the new designs because they are not even released material.
Having no Remake is far worse than havin changes.
At least the changes would be something.

>>22573741
chopping your dick off is a change too.

>>22573476
The clothing change isn't what bothers me, even if the new clothes are objectively worse. It's the changes to her hair and face, in tandem with Takeuchi's garbage artwork, that bothers me.

Also, times do change, yes, but it isn't like Arc was ever particularly modern insofar as her outfit was concerned - purple granny skirts weren't in fashion back in 2000 either. It has been 7 1/2 years since the redesigns and they still haven't used them, perhaps they should update them again to, y'know, match the fashion trends of today. We can have Arc and Ciel wearing Fortnite shirts.

>>22573476
Unless they set the remake in modern times, Arc's skirt still fits. Plus her long skirt made her stand out.

>>22571562
>how they are related
Both mascots of Type-Moon.

>>22568156
What kind of dere is Cocteau?

>>22568156
Even TV Tropes labeled him as tsundere.