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>favorite worst boy
Does not compute.

god i hate everything about him and meganes in general.
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>>22504285
Hanazawa is fine outside of his retarded route. Also crazy hot sex scene.

I just want wizard to be happy.

>>22504285
Best objectively worst boy

>>22504770
based

Short stories translations never ever.

Short stories translation never ever.

>Free shipping at Animate International
>Check the games section
>nogaems

Thanks

>>22505528
Wow, they're just selling this stuff out in the open, huh?

>>22505375
Don't keep reminding me, I'm trying to forget.

>>22504285
Probably Virus and Trip. Mink is flat-out the worst boy of all time; Virus and Trip were at least supposed to be a really really bad end.

>>22506840
I wonder who thought that minku's route was okay.
He's not even good if you're into do-m stuff, he's just your usual wife beater with zero redeeming qualities. Types like these usually have a trainwreck of a route you can laugh at, but minku's is not even entertaining

Has anyone played the remake of LoveRevo? Apparently the gameplay changed a bit but what about the routes/boys? Is it worth a replay?

>>22507865
I haven't played it but man I haven't heard that name in a while. LoveRevo was such a bizzare choice to patch but for years it was one of the only otome games available in english (It was like that, The Second Reproduction, TokiMemo, and Hakuoki).

EOPs now don't know how good they have it.

>>22507962
I only played it because the Enzai guy did the art and I have Stockholm syndrome.
But it ended up being one of the better dating sims I've played.

>>22506840
>Don't keep reminding me, I'm trying to forget.
Being part of a non-existent fandom is suffering, but at least it's motivating me to finally get serious with my Japanese.

>>22506840
>Don't keep reminding me, I'm trying to forget.
Being part of a non-existent fandom is suffering, but at least it's motivating me to finally get serious with my Japanese.

The sad reality is that BL VN don't have much of a future in the west and will never pick up like other VN.

>>22508252
>The sad reality is that BL VN don't have much of a future in the west and will never pick up like other VN.
It makes me sad that you're right
>>22504285
>Who is your favorite worst boy?
707, my cute yandere cat dad
>>22504559
>meganes
as a megane myself, yeah we deserve that
I started playing Seiyuu danshi, toru is best boy.

>TASUKETEE (Save me)
Is this a reference to a meme? It's the first time I see some of the phrases translated like this

>>22511082
It's kind of a meme, but it's used kind of in Japanese 「助けて」is used like "help!"
Not sure why it would be in a VN though

>>22511082
If it's a translation of this line, then they just flipped the engrish to weebspeak.

>>22511082
Taisho Alice I assume?

In the original Japanese version the MC speaks and narrates in a strange mix of Japanese and English. This is a plot point later on. All the Japanese phrases in romaji in the English version were in English in the Japanese version. It is also not explained or commented on in the Japanese version until much later either.

>>22504285
Utapri's Hat, probably.

He's the worst boy, but I still kind of like him. Kind of.

>>22511119
>>22511126
>>22511127
It's indeed from Taishou Alice, those lines just caught me off guard since unfortunately Yurika's lines aren't voiced.
Thanks for the explanation, anons.

>>22511133
>Hat
>worst

That's Otoya or Cecil

>>22504559
>I LOVE BELTS!!

>>22505658
The one thing I don't get about fetish CD series is how much of everything is focused on (you). If you listen to multiple in the same series they start to sound like the same S dude with different voices and a slightly different kink preference.

>>22511127
>MC speaks and narrates in a strange mix of Japanese and English
Wow, I remember reading an amazon review talking about how this was very annoying. They said the way the game is narrated was like an elementary/middle schooler kek

>>22511802
I liked Taisho Alice but it's absolutely full of moments that are like 'bet you thought this was just bad writing but turns out it was secret foreshadowing all along!'

But when you're reading it it just seems like bad writing and not an actual part of the mystery.

Is anyone else playing Taisho Alice at the moment? I've practically just started, and I have the same complain as I had with Sweet Pool, it feels a bit too "Americanized".

>>22512501
Oh? I've never played any of Jast's translations so far. I tried the fan patch for sweet pool years ago but is the official translation that bad?

I don't mind localization for the sake of maintaining flow, but changing shit to 4Kids level is too far. Where do Taisho Alice and Sweet Pool fall between "Japanese but in pidgin English" and "Burgurized"?

>>22512635
Choices for Makoto:
>But I really want'em y'know? I can't afford 'em 'till next month; buy 'em for me?; Hey c'mon ; Constant use of: Bro, duuude, cuz
Taishou Alice also has its moments
>Bro
>C'mon, dude! I'm hella worried.
>Do you want to get that D? I'll support you, sister
>Alice starts listing weird japanese names
>you get North West, Blue Ivy Carter, Apple Martin, Tu Morrow
There's more but these are the ones that annoyed me.
I don't have any complains about the quality of the translation itself but sometimes Americanized dialogue ruins the immersion for me. That may be just my issue, because I haven't seen other complains about this

So how did they do the katakana Alice part

>>22504285
Remember. There are other games that isn't or MAY BE otomes that have lovable boys in case your otomes are not making the cut.

>>22512827
This might be an unpopular opinion but I don't really see a problem with bro or dude in translations. It's a way of translating across differences in speech patterns in Japanese, and for Taisho Alice keeping the characters' voices distinct is especially important for reasons that are obvious later on. What might seem like a direct translation actually loses a lot of information based on the pronouns and sentence endings and such that the characters were using in Japanese.

>>22513228
>spending around 200 hours to get the whole story

It was a bad experience and I say it as someone who read 50+ hours long VNs. FE shouldn't be longer than 40 hours.

>>22514341
You can do one route or two, its not worth going through all routes because the gameplay is a boring slog past the first time.

>>22512827
>Makoto
But Makoto literally talks like that. He's a high school boy, of course he sounds stupid and bro-y.

>North West etc.
It's not like you're going to recognize the popular jp names they list out in the original, they're probably just as cringy as these ones.

That being said, I haven't played the eng translation of either.

>>22514458
It's a god damn shame the combat wasn't as fun as the old games because the characters were so nice

If I remember right the scene where Alice lists off celebrity names was in the original a reference to the raguko story 'Jugemu'. I only knew this because I saw that anime about raguko a few years ago. It's a reference I doubt much of the audience will get.

Swapping out a general cultural reference for a pop cultural one is in my opinion not really the right way to go about it, but Alice does make Japanese pop culture references a few times in the original in different places, so I suppose it's not out of character. Despite the 'period' setting everyone uses dumb modern slang in the original too.

>>22513190

>>22513803
Nah, I agree with you. If you're reading something in English, the characters should speak like English speakers and not like ESLs (unless they really are ESLs, of course).

Speaking of English translations, whew, Fata Morgana is amazing. Just cleared Door 2 and it might be my second 10/10 VN after Muramasa.

Holy shit
Is it true????

>>22516133
What the reviewers are upset with

>>22516259
Only two endings and one route, no new chara songs, bad system, confusing plot....

If I could only get one, which VN should I get between Taisho Alice and Fata Morgana?

>>22516685
Fata Morgana

>>22516685
Fata Morgana is one of the best VN ever and one of the best stories ever told, but I'm not sure why you guys keep mentioning it in here? I mean, I don't care, but it's not exactly otome material, despite the art.

Also get the PS4/Vita version if you can since it has everything.

>>22516749
>>22516762
Thanks. I guess I'll dust off my vita for this.

>>22511133
all chars voiced by shimono or kaji are guilty pleasures

>>22513228
>>22514341
>>22514458
>>22514872
Atleast the 3Houses boys are great lovely boys.

Would you be willing to romance a Nymphomaniac Sex Addict boy?

What Otom works out there have boys who're literal Nympho Sex Addicts?

>>22519112
boysluts are satyrs not nymphos
unless they're gay bottoms

>>22513228
What are some other games like that besides Fire Emblem? Not strategy games in particular.

>>22519511
Maybe something like Harvest Moon. You can actually even have same-sex partner in the latest one (STORY OF SEASONS: Friends of Mineral Town) at least on JP version although I wonder if the same-sex partner can't be done on the planned English version.

https://pastebin.com/gc1ieJfS

All the Hashihime's stuff (Q&A, Databook, etc) links in one single page in case anyone wants to easily share them.

>>22516685
They're actually kind of similar games now I think about it. Collections of linked mystery/romance stories connected by a guide character who appears every time.

Fata Morgana is better of course.

>>22504285
>best design
>my type of character
>worst route

>>22519112
"Nympho sex addict" is redundant

>>22519095
Seeing as Felix is lesbian bait, I'm sure lots of you guys would like him.

>>22519966
>lesbian bait
>male
how does this work

>>22504285
I was so excited for Hanazawa's route because I expected him to rape Tama, but by forcibly mounting as the bottom instead. I mean, doesn't this way make the most sense logically? I guess he'll do anything for his country except getting creampied up the ass.

Worst worst boy.

>>22519712
Thanks Anon.

>>22505375
>>22508252
Hey at least there's that Hadaka Shitsuji full edition to look forward to maybe.

>>22520006
Long hair? I guess Ken ga Kimi is a yuri game then

>>22520174
>I was so excited for Hanazawa's route because I expected him to rape Tama, but by forcibly mounting as the bottom instead.

>>22520006
I don't know, but a lot of lesbians I know love him.

>>22520583
I don't know what's going on in that anon's head but it sounds like a fun idea.

>>22520754
>Tamamori trying to top
>Hanazawa of all people

>>22520174
But the best thing about Hanazawa is his GIANT, RED, VEINY COCK.

>>22520787
I mean, it would be interesting to see a protagonist that isn't a bottom. It would be a shame if NTY!! was the only prominent example out there.

I don't know why the Japanese are allergic to switching but it's a damn shame.

>>22519112
How many people are fans of Laito again?
Also they have a name for those types of love interests in otome, they're just Playboys

>>22520810
Well, at least both Minakami and the Proff are open to to bottoming. He's probably rail them at one point.

>>22513228
>Not a single one of them is cute
pass

>>22520812
I'm pretty sure that Laito's playboy aspect is outweighed by his bizarre masochism that's bound to turn people off.

>>22520814
I would like to see it.

>>22520814
I'm still disappointed the professor topped in the first place. What a missed opportunity.

Then again despite everything the writer has strong preference for tiny young man getting railed from larger men, hence why de-aged him in the 5th route out of nowhere. I wonder what's the size difference in uultra C, uh. I think the third couple top is smaller, actually?

>>22519712
Thanks for this. Everyone's, especially Minakami, and Kawase's sections in the Q&A was quite a ride to go through. Now I can also finally understand why the Professor wasn't part of the Shopkeeper's hitlist despite knowing the hashihime's power, and being Hanazawa's friend.

Kurosawa's "overseas + modern day" parody. She has a lot of shit she never posts outside of tunglr for some reason.

>minakami in crocs

>minakami in crocs

>>22521041
>That connection between Minakami and Tamaori
What's the point of the other boys if you are just going to be so heavily biassed toward one.

>>22520810
I guess Hadaka Shitsuji would be the other one? Though I only played one route before I decided it wasn't my thing so I dunno if the protagonist ever bottomed.

>>22519112
Kuro to Kin no Akanai Kagi and Dynamic Chord ft. Kyohso both have literal sex addicts

>>22521157
It was nice to have a story that felt as though the characters were meant to be. It's not that it's absolutely better than the traditional VN style where all the routes are valid, but it was a good change of pace. Unfortunately most of the other routes suffered for it.

>>22521041
Minakami's hopeless fashion sense strikes at any time, in any age.

>>22521303
Tomoaki never did. I totally wanted to see him power bottom though.

>>22520812
Middle place I guess

http://www.otomate.jp/dialover/cl/result/

>>22520583
>>22520754
Hashihime can only be male. They can also pass it down to their (male) children. That would entail a top (hashihime) ejaculating into the receiving partner, ultimately resulting in a transfer of power. It is unclear if the receiving partner's sex matters, which is what I assumed Hanazawa was planning to check. There is zero precedent for the penetrating partner to receive the hashihime. Therefore the most logical course of action was for Hanazawa to get buttfucked, but I guess he couldn't because he had his own head up his ass.

>>22521387
Uh, I think you read it wrong. Sex has nothing to do with Hashihime's transferring.
Also Hanazawa gave him a blowjob and swallowed and I think Tamamori even asks him "are you happy? Or do you want me to fuck you now?" but at that point he understood the mana transfer thing is pointless.

The Hashihime moves on by either "tricking" her (What Madam did) or as disaster, so what you fear the most.

>>22521408
I remember the possibility of passing it to a child as an explanation of why Minakami's family is so knowledgeable about hashihime, though it has been a while since I read the VN last so I might be wrong.

Can the hashihime also be passed by having a host die nearby or was that just a red herring?

> can't find any bara/beefy vns with romance

>>22521432
[spoiler>I remember the possibility of passing it to a child as an explanation of why Minakami's family is so knowledgeable about hashihime, though it has been a while since I read the VN last so I might be wrong.[/spoiler]
It's never said it's passed between parent and child, not as in "The father fucks the mother, and it moves via sperm". It's simply stated that Minakami's family always had it and it's passed through generations. The only confirmed methods are 1) Kill the person and obtain it 2) You concern yourself with someone else when it's raining, and if losing the Hashihime is your biggest fear (Or it moving to that person is your biggest fear), it will transfer, which is the logical thing that happens between parent and child. It's the same thing that happened with the Hashihime moving from Minakami to Tamamori when they were childen.

It was never going to transfer via sex, Hanazawa swallowed his sperm and it didn't work, fucked him and it didn't work. At that point he realized it was pointless and just raped Tamamori because he was just enjoying it too much to quit.



>Can the hashihime also be passed by having a host die nearby or was that just a red herring?
100% true. Hence why it transfers to Kawase in Kawase's route after he kills the Shopkeeper. Also in Minakami's SS, he tells Tamamori to kill him if he ever became indisposed and traveler back in time to be save him. It can also move to animals of course.

>>22521432
>I remember the possibility of passing it to a child as an explanation of why Minakami's family is so knowledgeable about hashihime, though it has been a while since I read the VN last so I might be wrong.
It's never said it's passed between parent and child, not as in "The father fucks the mother, and it moves via sperm". It's simply stated that Minakami's family always had it and it's passed through generations. The only confirmed methods are 1) Kill the person and obtain it 2) You concern yourself with someone else when it's raining, and if losing the Hashihime is your biggest fear (Or it moving to that person is your biggest fear), it will transfer, which is the logical thing that happens between parent and child. It's the same thing that happened with the Hashihime moving from Minakami to Tamamori when they were childen.

It was never going to transfer via sex, Hanazawa swallowed his sperm and it didn't work, fucked him and it didn't work. At that point he realized it was pointless and just raped Tamamori because he was just enjoying it too much to quit.


>Can the hashihime also be passed by having a host die nearby or was that just a red herring?
100% true. Hence why it transfers to Kawase in Kawase's route after he kills the Shopkeeper. Also in Minakami's SS, he tells Tamamori to kill him if he ever became indisposed and traveler back in time to be save him. It can also move to animals of course.

>>22521374
>Shin still dead last
As expected. What did protag do to climb all the way up to 7th?

>>22521677
I always liked Yui's design even though I never cared for Dialovers.

It bugs me when the MCs are too plain looking. It brings me out of a game when I'm like why the hell are all these hot guys falling for such a dull looking girl (who usually has 0 personality too). Self insertation I know but if I'm self inserting I at least want to pretend to be hot.

That said what are /blog/s favourite MC designs?

>>22521808
Questions about design are way easier than ones about personalities. For otome, my favorites are Kayo from KgK, Beniyuri from Psychedelica, and the hime-cut from Norn9. Can't think of any for BL, though. I liked Michael, except it's not his design that I love, but rather the artstyle he's drawn in.

All this time I thought Code: Realize had a Steam port.

Cardia is cute.

>>22522485
That's probably stupid but I was sure Code realize and collar x malice would get released after Psychedelica on steam, sadly it never happened.

Speaking of steam, I did see ken ga kimi and tlicolity eyes there, both would be getting only chinese versions for some reason

>>22521808
the rightful queen

>>22521507
Guidebook explanation: Hashihime were women sacrificed in a ritual to protect bridges. When a bridge is built, they get someone to marry a blind woman and tell her that he was chosen as sacrifice. She offers to take his place and becomes a hashihime after dying. Since they're blind, they borrow the eyes of their host.

To prevent disaster striking when you help someone on rainy days, you can either kill that person or someone they rely on. Hashihime also get jealous if you get close to women when it's raining.

Hashihime prioritize past hosts because they're younger. They transfer once a son is born because they think it's the same person. If the host is killed they transfer to the killer. If the host dies of natural causes, they ascend. If you're crossdressing when it's raining and look into a mirror, it transfers to the nearest male or ascends if there aren't any. Hashihime are inactive when you close your eyes.

When Juuroku Bridge and Suidou Bridge were built, they chose the family with the most water containers to become the host.

>>22521808
Did not play her game, best design I've seen yet though.

>>22523317
Got more hot tidbits to share?

>>22522648
I always thought she looked like Shiki from TnC but a girl.

>>22521808
Kayo from KgK, Jed from Psychedelica of the Ashen Hawk, and Kan'u from Juuzaengi. Gotta love catgirls.

>>22523771
There was a Primula cat game where you play as a catgirl as well. I like how she has pants.

>>22504285
worst boy

>>22523317
Would you mind if I were to add this to the Q&A?

>>22524311
Yeah, sure.

>>22524456
Thanks. There seem to be some confusing about the setting, it's a shame MG won't bother with the title further, they still haven't fixed the mistranslated lines.

>>22524507
>only 1 meh otome project in works
>2 bl titles that had been announced almost two years ago
They should just offer only hentai options every time they hold a poll with the works others would like to see translated

>>22524554
To be fair the game sold like shit. I've tried to shill a bit, but even the usual suspects seem to prefer shit like Camp Buddy or what the fuck. I'm hoping word of mouth eventually helps, everyone seems to want gay games except when we finally get them they are all more interested in shit that isn't even gay in the first place. If I sound annoyed, it's because I am.

PC VNs are so easy to pirate (and generelly only played by the kind of people who know how to pirate) that they basically only get sales from people who are morally against piracy or are going out of their way to support a release.

>>22523778
>the cat girl is literally called Tama
Wew.

>>22521808
Otome has a lot of cute girls yet mobage reuse the same short-haired faceless yokai in every other game. What went wrong?

>>22524816
There is a Japan themed cat empire where the cats are all called Tama, Kuu-nyan, etc. and a western themed cat empire where they're all Kitty and Willow and other typical cat names english speakers use.

I played the trial version a while ago and it had one of the most bizzare set ups I had ever seen in an otome game.

>>22524697
I'm usually for pirating stuff, but BL market is minuscule it's basically the equivalent of punching yourself in the face. Someone will always step up for eroge and "normal" VN, but the same thing can't be sadly be said about BL.

>>22524878
>Kan'u holding the fatass one-handed
Based supercat.

>>22524622
I didn't even know Hashihime existed until it came up by chance in a homo thread on /a/. There's basically 0 advertisement, so how are people supposed to know if they don't follow a company's Twitter or blog? And who WOULD follow Mangagamer for BL? At least JAST has N+C's name behind what they're doing so that will naturally spread; niche doujin work like Hashihime needs an extra boost to get the word out.

>>22521374
>localization never because vocal retards who can't tell the difference between reality and fiction would be outraged by a (teen) heroine being abused
I wonder how Piofiore no Banshou even got localized kek

>>22525302
Dialovers has never been localised because Rejet is notoriously averse to western localisations.

No one cares about VNs enough to go on moral panic brigades over them.

>>22525398
I was sure it was a collaboration between otomate and rejet. Oh well, I know that artists including japanese ones are already being harassed by western tards for drawing the characters that are not legal by american standards in a lewd way and "rapey art" in general.
So I do hope VNs will be able to avoid this.

>>22525302
Despite all the milking the vampire phase is long gone. Anyone who still cares can just play that weird person's TL patch.

>>22524878
Trying to recognise all of these but only got Kanu, Amnesia MC, Yui, Tamaki, Haruka, Felicita and Ema.
Where is Chihiro..

>>22525489
Wasn't there some insane drama over the patch

>>22524878
Who's the one with the shoulder birb?

>>22524622
Out of curiosity I checked to see if tumblr and twitter noticed it and it seems pretty dead. Though I don't really understand how twitter works so there might be some tight knit BL community I just can't see through search.

This is just speculation on my part, but the impression I'm getting is that in the west DMMD had the only real BL game fanbase for a while and they were so embarrassing that BL games have gotten a bad reputation and the old fans have probably moved on by now. Also western purity culture means that fujos, and BL games with ~problematic content~, are going to be shat on unless it's tame western shit that panders to the LGBT+ alphabet soup crowd and literal boypussies.

Though I suppose like you said there's also a subsection of people that only cares about porn and would probably find plot heavy BL games too boring. None of the gay/bi guys I know seemed interested in Hashihime when I tried recommending it.

>>22526150
>This is just speculation on my part, but the impression I'm getting is that in the west DMMD had the only real BL game fanbase for a while and they were so embarrassing that BL games have gotten a bad reputation and the old fans have probably moved on by now. Also western purity culture means that fujos, and BL games with ~problematic content~, are going to be shat on unless it's tame western shit that panders to the LGBT+ alphabet soup crowd and literal boypussies.
But Hashihime's main route is literally good LGBT content, though. It's well integrated into the story, gives you a perspective on their struggles and it even fits the time period

>>22526150
>Out of curiosity I checked to see if tumblr and twitter noticed it and it seems pretty dead. Though I don't really understand how twitter works so there might be some tight knit BL community I just can't see through search.
Hashihime is kinda dead yeah. I checked the various characters name and there are some people posting their impressions as they play, but too many.

>>22526179
>Hashihime
Hashihime tag, whoops.

>>22526172
I agree, but try telling that to your average western purityfag who will start typing up an angry twitter rant upon seeing the warning screen mention there's gore and rape in the game. A bit of a sidenote since this isn't a BL game, but I feel this way because I've already seen westerners drop Given after they found out what happens in the manga later, even though it's really tame compared to most BL manga.

>>22526240
Not that anon, but Hanazawa rape is totally retard for me, it seems even Japan agrees given how unpopular he is. I don't think it's PROBLEMATIQUE or anything, the scene was well done, but the evolution of the relationship after that doesn't really fit Hashihime otherwise pretty good writing.

>western purity culture
It's always such a shitshow when I see it happen live.

>>22526271
You act like Japan doesn't have a bigger purity culture lol.

>>22526285
Now when did I say that? Must I deny the existence of one purity culture while laughing at another?

Well /blog/, are traps gay?

>>22526360
Feminine penises are not gay.

With VNs I see more people complaining that rape routes and damsel MCs (in the case of otome) are boring and bad writing than complaining about them being morally wrong.

>>22525566
Yukina from Toki no Kizuna.

>>22525566
Toki no Kizuna

>>22526285
Not really, if we are talking about jpn weeb content, no one will attack the game devs if there's a character gets raped by an octopus or if there's an incest route in the game, bonus points for characters still being in high school.

If someone in the west makes a game like that, westerntards immediately will harass them for being a problematique rape loving pedo furry to the point they'd have to quit the internet. They're already starting to do this to japanese artists, so I'm glad they are too retarded to learn japanese

>>22526826
*no japanese players will attack the game

>>22526826
They instead attack and threaten the lives of any writer/developer that writes a character that has ever had a crush on someone before they meet the MC/PC. It's not quite as bad in the BL/Otome side but there is still a group that obsesses over virgins and sexual innocence to the point that they even put off fellow otaku they don't convert to the cause. Even those playboy archetypes are actually inexperienced most of the time. Only MC-chan alone can tame their urges and all that.

It's different in direction but it still amounts to some fans' stupid fantasy not jiving with reality, resulting in disaster for anyone that draws the hive mind's attention. Both are fucking retarded but they're a powerful part of the consumer base so it's not going away any time soon.

Western purityfags, however, can fuck right off and screech to each other until the End Days. They have 0 practical impact, even less than the dozen or so people who buy the few titles translated into English.

>>22524816
Wait, is this an otome game where the MC is bolder than the boys? There are so few of these.

>>22526360
Only traps I like are the tsundere ones

>>22525302
On a certain website people were angry that piofiore a game about the mafia was getting localized because it had dark themes in it. All of them based on breadmasterlees reviews, who herself dosent like anything contorversial in her to otome games

Solution for the mission where you control Rune, after parting with Sophie: it's the 4th lamp from the left. If you hit any others, you'll have to fight monsters and it sucks.

>>22527735
I know people like to shit on t*mblr but at least that place always had its fair share of degenerates who were okay with anything.
Let's be happy these people settle for shitty reviews and don't actually buy games, so they can't do shit by whining.

>>22527781
>fair share of degenerates who were okay with anything
Yes but that was 2011-2014 tumblr things have changed for the worse. Good thing the worst puritans there dont care about otome, I can enjoy my teen x oyajiges in peace.

>>22526240
Rape is controversial in pretty much any kind of manga, no idea why people are "OK" with BL having it? See people's reactions to something like Berserker.

>>22526949
>>22526826
Japan literally demands women in REAL LIFE to act as the virgin mary, voice actors/idols must be pure and virginal, because they belong to everyone, while at the same time not belong to anyone. And this is not getting into the hell that is 2D purity culture and "NTR" culture, where writers can't pretty much write anything as a love triangle or anything. Remember Erased?

Yeah sure, westerns can be annoying, but honestly most of the outrage comes from retarded a small group on twitter acting like everyone's voice. Anyway the original discussion was about rape in BL. I don't think people "dislike" rape as much they dislike the "rape until he loves it" trope.

>>22528053
Admittedly I probably ended up getting this thread off the rails, my bad. My point was that I can definitely understand why BL games are so niche in the west that they don't sell well. I'm grateful that some of these companies are still trying, though.

New cool b is out

>>22528333
The new parade game looks pretty good. Looks like it's going to be much more plot focused than their other games.

>>22526150
There actually is a small active english twitter community that regularly follows BLVN releases, yeah. But it's definitely nothing compared to what it used to be during the heights of DMMD fame.

>>22527186
From the trial it seemed more like Tama was kind of autistic and socially oblivious so like, accidentally got in the guys faces without thinking about the implication. Like the cat culture has something about licking wounds so when a guy is wounded she's like let me lick it it would only be the honourable thing to do, while the characters around her are like 'what the hell are you doing?'

In Primula's other game, Taisho Alice, the MC really is just super bold though so who knows.

Here we go

>>22528894
Still don't get the appeal of this series.

>>22528908
Idols.

>>22528894
I wasn't expecting this now, I thought they would announce it only in the next live.

>>22528333
My issue should be coming later today.

>>22528659
Eh, I'll take it. As long as protagonist doesn't blush and freeze up every time some guy comes within 1 meter of her

>>22504285
Such a good design wasted on a shitty route. I've been having fun thinking of ways to try to fix his route and personally:


- Make it branch way early. As early at Kawase at least.
- Drop any romantic angle from both sides. Keep it from the SS and hint at it during the end of the route. Tamamori is already in love with Minakani anyway, and Hanazawa's interest for him and his stories are just utterly unbelievable. Make it so he only ever saw Tama as an annoying, but cute little brother. During the course of the game he starts to admire and even feel a bit of jealousy for the way he can live every day doing nothing, while at the same time the part of him who is as a soldier hates him a bit. This loops back to his father thinking Tamamori's was going to influence him negatively.
- Since the theme is adventure, use the body swap device early to show more dinosaur scenes. Also make it so this actually gives Tamamori a better idea of how Hanazawa feels. Have them share dreams or something? Use it to give Tamamori's flashbacks of Hanazawa's father.
- Drop the rapeshit angle, it just makes him unreedemable in the eyes of many and the romance later. Make it so Tamamori doesn't want it, but he's willing to do it for the sake of the transfer. Keep the drugs if you want to keep the whole "lost in pleasure" theme, but have them take them willing. Make it so they both start to genuinely get into it after Hanazawa comes once and they go at it like animals even when they realize it's pointless. You can start a more romantic angle after this.
- Not sure what you can do about the ending, except maybe having more dinosaurs scenes would prepare the player better? Also maybe add a confrontation with the shopkeeper, nailing thar Tamamori fucked up by giving up, but at least he should stick with this path and Hanazawa.

there's been a merch drought.

>>22528894
QUALITY rap battles, can't wait

>ディストピアの王 原画：thugran
>シナリオ：休養沢ライチ(LOVE&DESTROY)
>18禁BLゲーム、2020

http://pilslash.jp/product/dystopia/

>Parade - lykt
>>22529063
I think I’m going to make it a point to grab issues from Kino next year. 2020 is looking nice for bl.

>>22529450
I like your second point on Tamamori's laziness vs Hanazawa's rigid soldier lifestyle. Hanazawa's route was wasted potential. I was looking forward to his story when I started playing because of how Minakami, and Kawase acted whenever he's mentioned, but it was a mess when I finally went through it. That weird ending of his left me speechless.

>>22529577
>all those belts and some lace on his glove(?)
Is belt fashion making a comeback?

>>22529607
Looks like the character designer for Togainu no Chi which had an extremely nu-metal belts and combat gear aesthetic.

Also
https://powdergray.jimdofree.com/

I’m happy to see some substantial bl news.
>>22529607
And what looks like a harness clip in the groin/thigh uppercut. Oh the possibilities.
>>22529671
Yeah, that was one of the big surprises this issue.

>>22529671
His role in the other routes is why I straight up would''t call him a bad character, he's antagonist and a shithead but it doesn't make him badly written, his reasons are sound and he's necessary to create conflict.
His route really dropped the ball though, I can't tell if the author stopped caring or she ran out of time. Either way waste of design/story/very good voice actor.

>>22529586
His role in the other routes is why I straight up wouldn't call him a bad character, he's antagonist and a shithead but it doesn't make him badly written, his reasons are sound and he's necessary to create conflict.
His route really dropped the ball though, I can't tell if the author stopped caring or she ran out of time. Either way waste of design/story/very good voice actor. He's not popular in JP either, his merch is always unsold.

>>22529671
>>22529679
>combat gear aesthetic
>harness clip
Now that's my kind of jam. It's a shame his shoes weren't shown. It would've been interesting to see.

>>22529607
that's not nearly enough belts

>>22529679
Anon, are you going to post pictures, or should I? I won't be home for another 5 hours or so, though.

>>22529786
I’d sure appreciate it if you can. I don’t have the issue and am having a hard time finding scans so quick. They usually take a day or two. Mind me asking how you order yours? Fastest I can think is in store for same day, though it is a bit of a trip for me.
And sorry for the lack of scans this past year, /blog/. You guys still wanting to see some pages next year?

>>22529577
>another pil/slash + L&D collaboration
yes please

>>22529847
I used to get mine from a Kinokuniya that I lived by, but I moved and the nearest one is in a major city a couple of hours away from me. I order on amazon.jp if I'm particularly desperate (this month I was)

Looks cool.

>>22529986
>総受け
Who cares.

>>22530055
At least they are not straight.

I'm not sure if this is a proper place to ask this, but are there any BL/Otome games with non-human/non-humanoid guys?

>>22530615
It is. There’s always the well known “Miku” Ai of Utapri Technically such points can be later revealed. I’m sure everyone and their granddad knows about him, but if you’re asking and didn’t mention him you must not be familiar with the series.

>>22530615
Hatoful Boyfriend otome
Beast x Light bl

>>22530713
He's identical to a human so that's not really what they wanted.

>>22530615
Just search on vndb. There is this one doujin otome with furry guys but I don't know how hard it would be to find.

I'm very slow, but I just discovered that the guy who voices Natsuki from Utapri, Crow from Show by Rock, Ryouma from Bakumetsu Rock, Ikki from Amnesia, Gunji in Togainu no Chi, Durer in Enzai and Ashraf in Zettai Fukujuu Meirei is also the singer for Granrodeo. Anime-wise he also voiced Jean and Kittan.

>>22530758
Welcome to the world of seiyuufagging.

>>22530763
Oh I pay attention to some seiyuu, but this one kinda blew my mind. Also they tend to use aliases for R18 so it's not always super obvious.

>>22530721
>>22530728
I-I'm not a furry though
I should've been more specific, but I meant more cartoony guys. I don't know if that kind of taste is catered anywhere in otome/bl games though.

>>22530758
How’s the new view? I still haven’t listened to anything semi-lewd by Hosoya. I don’t usually draw a line, but I get way too flustered when it comes to him. I love him.
>>22530806
What? Give an example of such a character you know in world that aren’t /blog/ related.

>>22530806
Cartoons still look humanoid if they're not animals though? Unless you want to date something like the whos from doctor seuss or something. Try looking through the super deformed tags on vndb or wade through the english original language ones until you see one with a good co style.

>>22530758
>Whenever Kishow gets a singing role

Feels good man

>>22531002
>announce two new seasons
>kill the game

>>22531016
The new game needs to be better, but I'm going to be sad if they remove the tie-up bands.

Well, my delivery of the Cool-B has been delayed until tomorrow, but hopefully no later than that.

>>22530864
Has Hosoyan even done anything that qualifies as semi-lewd?

On that note, I'm suddenly reminded of Yusuke from Brocon, an amazing boy in a shit game. Do you guys have any favorite boys that are like that?

>>22520810
>>22521303
If you can read nip, Shingakkou has full reversible eroscenes, you can pick and choose who tops
wish everyone did this

>>22531002
I like how this guy basically voiced the same character 3 times across 3 different franchises.

>>22529762
I LOVE BELTS!
But I'm drawing the line on too many weirdly placed zippers.

>>22531168
There are his Wasurenagusa CDs

>>22531168
>Has Hosoyan even done anything that qualifies as semi-lewd?
Sarazanmai?

I ordered a copy of Sweet Pool
Played about an hour a few years ago but never continued it
Gonna finally get around to it!

Well, my delivery's been delayed again, maybe someone else has put up some scans by now?

>>22536323
I played the fan translation attempt a long, long time ago. Was waffling back and forth about buying the official version.

On the one hand, supporting the industry and encouraging more translations. On the other hand, ass meat babies.

>>22531168
I fucking sobbed for Yusuke. He is the sun. And the CD I was thinking about is Ikenai Shitsuji. It’s semi lewd because of the obvious context but it’s more a pg rating. It’s just that the mere mention of his name gets my heart racing so anything sexual in nature is overload.
Wish I could find recordings of him teaching us how to make ramen.
>>22536600
I’ll look.

RIP Tsukipara

>>22537179
I can’t take this pain anymore. Even with this still on the way it could be pulled. It hurts so much.

There's a sale at the Aksys shop for the Code Realize games, the Psychedelicas, BAW, and 7 Scarlet.

Do you ever just have trouble sitting down to play a VN even if you genuinely like it? I quit FLML at some point in Miki's route even though he's a good boy and I was genuinely enjoying it. I guess sitting down to go read for hours feels more taxing somehow than things like watching an anime episode, and if you haven't played in a while you start to feel like you need to reread it again to remember what was going on.

>>22531168
>Has Hosoyan even done anything that qualifies as semi-lewd?
Pic related is the first thing that comes to mind for me.

>>22536323
It's a good game despite the "meat shitting babies" meme, the plot isn't even that wacky, and anyway we're never getting another denpa BL game localized, so enjoy it while it lasts.

>>22538068
Yes of course, I sometimes put aside a VN for years before I go back and finish it. I don't know why though, maybe once I'm satisfied I lose the will to continue? Or I just get distracted by something else and I lose track.
If it makes you frustrated just make a memo to finish it and play at least once a week to keep the memory of the plot fresh.

>>22538068
I get distracted pretty easily and jump between games a lot. I've only learned enough Japanese to read VNs fairly recently so I have a huge backlog which doesn't help.

>>22538068
I sort of liked what I read of collar x malice (half of red's route, I think) but then I just put it down and now the cartridge is lost in my room somewhere. I've been playing KgK vita on and off for nearly four years now. I stopped playing Sweet Clown after accidentally doing main boy first. I cannot finish Shingakkou. I have the attention span of a dog.

>>22539065
>accidentally doing main boy first
This has killed a lot of games for me because I end up knowing all the mysteries and not caring about the other boys so I have no will to finish.

>>22539222
What game did this happen to you in?

>>22539222
I mean, there's usually no reason to force yourself to play every guy's route unless it's a kamige or you need to unlock best boy. I certainly wouldn't bother playing more than my favorite's route for the usual trash. If you have something better to play/read/watch then do that, completionism is like hoarder's syndrome.

>>22538068
>半永久的なオーガズムが得られる
>I'd love to have an orgasm for the time being
what a shitty translation

>>22538068
My PSP has absolutely terrible battery life so I have to remember to charge it before I really feel like playing. But maybe it's the reading too. Haven't read a lot of real books this year either.

>>22538068
>>22539222
>after accidentally doing main boy first
I often look up a recommended order before playing because of this.
But only when I get the gist that the game is worthy of a fullcomp. Otherwise I just go for my best boy and call it quits.

>Character is a renowned cosmetic surgeon
>26 years old
>Character is a medical examiner
>25 years old

What is with these games and impossibly young doctors

>>22540557
I mean why do you think anon?

>>22540557
so they're geniuses who got their diplomas at 20, what about it?
the average love interest for a certain genre of shoujo is a teenage CEO or something

>>22539065
>>22539751
>>22539222
>Main route is best boy
What's his name, blog?

>>22540701
I remember some extremely dumb shoujo smut manga I read as a teen about a girl who gets kidnapped and taken to hong kong by some do-s chinese mafia boss... who is also a high school student and him and MC go to school every day in little chinese themed school uniforms.

>>22540891
Caramia

What determines a main boy anyway?

>>22540891
Alice in Taisho Alice was my best boy though his actual route was kind of disappointing since it's basically just a wrap up/explanation.

I was happy Yurika got to bully him properly though.

>>22540958
When they're shit

>>22540958
Either

The focus of all the plot points, i.e. the "true route". Related: the canon route, as determined by the author if not explicitly explained in the story itself.

If the route you're on had to be unlocked and/or is explaining things that were mysteries in other routes, it's the main boy's route. They are usually NOT the best boys.

>>22540891
Charlie

>>22541131
There are exceptions I think. Like in the game Arabians Lost the truth route is a joke 3P(?) route with no romance and the only kiss scene was unwilling on both ends.

Shame because in the case of that game Meissen was one of the best boys.

>>22540891
Majima

>>22541426
The dude from Yakuza?
>>22541131
What's TnC true route? Nano?

>>22541483

Yes. You'd be tempted to think it's Shiki due to the hype and variety in his endings, but it's actually Nano, the blob of sentient tapioca.

>>22528894
I want to get into this because this is probably where all the good artists will go, but every guy looks so damn unappealing to me.

>>22540891
Tsuzuramaru. Minakami.

>>22540926
Was it shinjo mayu

>>22541483
>The dude from Yakuza
Not that anon, but he is indeed best boy.

>>22541523
I never even did Nano's route because he seemed so dull. The guy is wearing a cardigan in a world where everyone else is decked out in post apocalypse belts and leather like come on.

身を律し欲望を遠ざけ！

>>22541568
It has the weirdest sex scene I think. He just fucks the MC out of nowhere on a bench?

>>22540926
haou airen, probably
yes, that's exactly the sort of manga I was thinking of

Speaking of TnC, what the fuck is up with the art in some CG? It looks borderline horrific.

>>22541578
>>22541563
Yeah, that's the one. Man, I remember it being a smut manga but looking at the google image search results it seemed to have been a non stop parade of MC-chan rape.

>>22529709
>I can't tell if the author stopped caring
Isn't Hanazawa the writer's favourite guy? Really makes you think

>>22541568
>>22541575
I didn't record thoughts on that route's sex scene so I can't say for certain but I distinctly remember being let down with how anti-climactic the ending was. Shiki was the epitome of stupid edgelord but at least he had entertaining shit going on.

Keisuke deserved so much better, damn it.

>>22541587
The early/mid 2000's were a time of change and experimentation. TnC wasn't the worst looking VN of it's time, surprisingly. Not saying it's held up well, but, you can at least excuse some of it for being a product of it's time.

>>22541587
TnC is really on the good end for mid-2000s BL art, the phrase 'yaoi hands' doesn't exist for no reason.

>>22541635
>>22541639
No I mean, most of them look fine, but then you get this out of nowhere.

>>22541635
My strongest memory of TnC (aside from the Shiki ntr ending) is Sugita hamming it up during Keisuke's yan moments.

>>22541618
Supposedly. But Hashihime's writing is kinda weird, with the last route being an au essentially meant to give the player a "Dogra Magra" feeling and Minakami pulling every single romantic trope in existence (Like even just the couple's name is meme material) and romantically semi-cucking the boys in the other routes.

Maybe she's just kinda detached from her works?

>>22529709
I think it was constrained by length. Each story was written to be about the same length, as if the reader started from the beginning without skipping already read stuff each time. That left precious little time for Hanazawa, Hakase, and Kaoru to sell their stories to the audience.

If they had been given time to fully develop their stories I think it would have been much better. Kawase was offered early enough that his story had chance to stand on it's own, and it turned out rather well. And considering how short the other three routes were I think the author did the best she could. Just unfortunate that the structure of the game itself crippled 3 routes.

>>22541658
Kemonomimi were all the rage back then. Humans are apes, which are a type of animal. Hence human kemonomimi ears.

>>22541679
>I think it was constrained by length. Each story was written to be about the same length, as if the reader started from the beginning without skipping already read stuff each time. That left precious little time for Hanazawa, Hakase, and Kaoru to sell their stories to the audience.
Yeah, but that doesn't make much sense though, no one was going to read from the beginning and the main route is still focused on Minakami anyway. So even if you do it's like "Minakami, Minakami, Minakami's content, Hanazawa's content".

It's even worse with Kaoru, given the content before the split straight up doesn't matter and the "story" amount to what, 50 minutes of content?

I wonder if it would have worked better with a structure similar to S;G or if Minakami's route was the last one?

I've not played Hashihime but starting with the true/main route seems like a really strange structure to go with.

>>22536249
His two CDs. It was kinda sad that they never got him back for the last two series

>>22536269
>butt kappas
As lewd as you could get with him anyway

>>22540926
Dude got what he deserved in the end

>>22541822
The whole game's structure is weird. Every other boy branches from the main's boy route resulting in some pseudo-ntr and a main character that truly never loves someone else.

>>22542896
>Doing Hikawa' route
>He confesses to Minakami
>Minakami flashes on the screen when the Hikawa learns about "Tamamori truly loved one"
It's not fair bros..

>>22540891
Sousou from Juuzaengi 1&2. His "best boy" status is debatable considering he's a conquering warlord with a shitton of issues, but he's probably the most developed LI and has one of the two main routes (and the canon one in the manga). Unsurprisingly, he's also the most popular character in the series.

>>22537179
I guess at least the planned Tsukiuta new anime is still not canceled.

>>22541483
Chou no Doku. But true, Yakuza's Majima is also best boy.

>>22541679
>Each story was written to be about the same length, as if the reader started from the beginning without skipping already read stuff each time
Even in that case Minakami's route still wins since it has 90% of the story and twists, and I'm not talking figuratively. It's were the story and its themes ultimately come together.

thoughts? personally it enrages me hearing this shit https://youtu.be/uS2hcBxo8zQ?t=1205

>>22544235
Summary? I ain't listening to that shit.

>>22544235
I'm not clicking on that.

>>22544581
The time stamp at 20 mins where she's talking about how she's told to change things because it could be "sexist"

>>22545199
Eh, it's justified in some cases. Even the same words and phrases can be more or less insulting depending on the language and cultural associations.

>>22545384
I disagree a bit. If handsome-kun is calling mc-chan an ugly pig, that shouldn't be changed to account for Western feefees and SJW shit.

Translating idioms, puns, and sayings to Western equivalents has some merit. But if a character is a rude, abrasive piece of shit, don't tone that down.

>>22544235
>Mobage translator
>800 views

So nobody? Is this your sister's video?

>>22545384
I agree with >>22547871 here, it's also important to make sure the character stays consistent. If you end up changing one thing, you'll have to end up changing the rest or else it'll seem strange, and at that point you're more likely than not going against the author's original intent for the sake of appealing to a completely different audience. Also, once people find out, it usually kicks up a shitstorm.

There's also times where it might be important to the story or the general feel. I remember reading that the localization team of that one Yakuza-related game didn't want to change content that made them personally feel uncomfortable because the point of the scene was exactly that, to make them uncomfortable. I appreciate them for being able to understand the point.

>>22544235
It's garbage, but I'll take it over inserting shitty memes and Trump references.

Hashihime bros
>https://pastebin.com/HPDCyEvS

Should I put thid in the pastebin? It's not a direct translation of anything, but more like a summary gathering the various infos, so I'm not sure it should be in there.

Also if anyone still has a link to the CG package that got posted some time ago here, it would be appreciated.

>>22550099
Might as well.
Also, I'm slow as fuck and just realized this, but if Minakami doesn't commit sudoku and remove himself from the reincarnation pool, he'll still be reborn as Tama orbiter in the next life, right?

>>22551517
Yes pic related. The reincarnation mechanics are not really clear, Minakami said "we would always ended up with other people" before they have sex and seem to know what Tamamori likes in bed, which points at them getting together numerous times at least to the point they became intimate but never managed to actually become a couple until this set of reincarnation. Tamamori seems to remember a bit of his past life at times and mentions that "I think I remember wanting to watch the moon with you once" in the Short Story, which also points at him having feelings for Minakami in a past life. It's basically your tragic love story about star crossed lovers Japan loves so much.
If we go by the main story, they are probably always in love, but it's a matter of Tamamori remembering/acknowledging/etc and the right circumstances happening, but I'm just speculating. I think the author either didn't think about it too much or didn't want to go into details to not make the others boys look too inferior.


Anyway I put all the links I could find, like her twitter account, the Q&A section she hosted there, etc.

https://pastebin.com/gc1ieJfS

I'll probably put the Drama CD if I ever get them.

>>22551517
He's only reincarnated as his descendants, so he doesn't think so.

>>22552550
Isn't he wrong though? She straight up mentions in another instance they'd be reborn always close (Since they are not going to have descendant anyway this time)

Oh so, it's actually shorter, younger top and older, taller uke.

>>22553542
>this_is_my_fetish.jpg

Seriously, I hope this gets translated.

>>22553542
This is going straight to the top of my backlog

fags

Soon

https://youtu.be/3UsUbW1Mlfg

Your husbando/boyfriend makes a scary face like this. What do? Fear and regret that you may have chosen a wrong boy with the worst route?

>>22553542
If this is not rapey but consensual and both are into it, my dick is literally going to explode.

>>22553542
It's weird that nowadays it's harder to find an age gap pairing with the older character being the top. Guess everyone got bored of it.

>>22555538
Fuck the edge out of him. I reckon in this case it did help

>>22555824
It was handholding actually

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i1aAMRqvbd0
This is just K-Pop, not rap.

>>22555538
Love the crazy ones

Does anyone have a mega link or something for Chou no Doku?

>>22555538
Rejoice, because that'd mean I've indeed picked the best route.

>>22556422
>My Rhyme is Damn Exclusive
>他のWack MC'sはSo Bull Shit

I keep stopping here

I can't even deal with normal boy idols because they make me cringe too bad but rapping boy idols sounds like a total unlistenable nightmare.

>>22556422
I mean one of those guys is Korean, so checks out.

>>22556575
pretty sure anime sharing has it if you don't mind dealing with forum shit

>>22557125
It didn't (except in shitty split up rapidfire links that take 3 hours each to download) but I found an actual mega link elsewhere.

Anime-sharing isn't that bad in terms of forum shit except for when people make you ask to be personally messaged the link to files or whatever. Why do people do that shit, I swear for regular VNs people aren't so protective.

>>22557255
Guess I misremembered. My bad.
I don't know the logic behind the messaging thing either, I can only imagine it being a massive nuisance considering people will still be asking you for years on end. Maybe the hunger for (You)s is just that extreme, since it's not like they're worrying the links will be taken down if only forum members can see them.
I would guess the protectiveness comes from the VN industry being in less than stellar shape, but male demographic stuff still gets ripped instantly and thrown around like nobody's business and all these minor annoyances don't stop people so that can't really be it.

>>22556422
Was that supposed to be rapping?

>>22555538
Depends, pic related had one of the most nausea-inducing routes in otoge history for me.

>>22557794
Explain.

I've been out of the loop concerning official English releases, is JAST Usa going to continue with their jewish tricks and censor the rest of NC titles they got?

>>22558068
Have you played Moshikami? A minor spoiler I guess? The least nausea-inducing thing he did was eating his little sister's (heroine's) fallen hair left in shower and collecting her toenail clippings

This A3! event is dumb.

>>22558401
Based

>>22558156
But they didn't censor Sweet Pool?

And before wondering if they will censor anything, I'd first worry if they'll release anything else. It's been a while since they said TnC is coming "soon".

>>22558451
Why?

>>22556933
I was initially disappointed when I found out Hypnosis Mic wasn't the hypnosis themed voice drama series the name made me think it was, but I'm glad it's rapping instead because of hilarious shit like this.

>>22556422
This song is honestly pretty boring and generic, I was expecting something better. I wonder how much these albums will actually sell.

>>22558401
Sounds neat.

>>22558401
Hot desu
>>22558951
Steam version is censored and you still have to buy the patch with all nsfw content on their site. The most fun thing about this is that there's no warning about that on their steam page, so you realize something is wrong when you've already played for a while and when some scenes make no fucking sense

>>22558401
Are they blood related?

>>22560249
yes

I finished the demo. Interface is pretty. Story seems interesting enough, haven't seen any scenes or boys that are so bad that they put me off the entire game like last time. The MC seems better too. How do you have a New York game with no brown boys though. Even TxM and Confidential Money had the token one. The Friends meme runs deep

Predicting that pic related is the best

What game are you looking forward in 2020? Both localized and new jpn releases?
New game by the writer of Taishou mebiusline and the upcoming game by Adelta look interesting.
As for localized games, that mafia trainwreck looks fun, I'm also hoping Taisho Alice does well enough to get part 2 localized as well.

>>22560205
It comes out to the same price iirc, whether you buy on steam+patch or just buy from JAST directly. I don't remember being confused about it when I bought it but that's just my experience I guess.

>>22560539
Buying on steam is less expensive if you're a third worlder like me.
But my issue is not the price but the lack of any warning about the patch, I could've bought it right away instead of wasting time like a retard

https://twitter.com/Good_Haro/status/1204112285758885888?s=19

Thoughts?

>>22560879
Not sure what to think yet, NTY was hyped up as some kind of BL savior, when every single route was lacking and some guys even weren't into sex at all? That was off putting.
Unless they hired a new writer who actually knows that walking onaholes aren't very desirable as romantic partners for mcs, I don't expect too much

>>22560879
>>22560917
>the relationships are a little more conventionally “romantic”

This sounds promising at least. I want to play this because vaguely japanese swords and fantasy shit is exactly the type of thing I'm into.

>>22560599
Ah, wow. Took a look at the steam page again and that information is actually absent. I guess it was all the social media promotion that made it clear for me. They really should note it there, especially if they won't have the patch on steam like MangaGamer does.

>>22560430
I see a lot of people playing the Taisho Alice localisation hyping up Yurika as being the most likeable MC ever and shit so I really hope part 2 is localised so they all get shocked when they hit it and it becomes obvious how machiavellian and insane she is.

I still love Yurika of course no matter how many sincere suicide attempts she does to make a point.

>>22561255
That's only makes her more amazing and impressive for me

>>22560249
No, they're step-siblings.

Are there any games with a blood related younger brother?

>>22560370
I hate this font

>>22561932
I can only think of Gabriel from Shingakkou and I'm not sure that really counts, plus you have to play all the others routes generally.

>>22562045
I found this https://vndb.org/v3425#main one on vndb which is like a raising sim type game from what I can tell, where you are a princess looking after a clone of your dead younger brother who doesn't know he's a clone and thinks he just has amnesia, and trying to get him to act like the original so he can be the next king. It is also R18.

>>22561932
Sweet Clown by Takuyo has a route with
blood-related and, if I'm not mistaken, younger twin brother.

Hey there, I wanna start getting involved with otome and BL and decided by doing it with the most acclaimed works first.
What would be the general consensus?
Personal curiosity, what would be the most sexy character of this general?

>>22560917
No kididng, the writer for NTY looked like he didn't want to be there.
I don't mind the usual autistic tropes because Nips romance always has those, but at least have both characters be into it should be hard in the first place.

>>22562141
That sure sounds wild. Older games like that are interesting.

>>22561887
>>22560252
What is the truth?

>>22560370
Is this, what the fuck was it, Bustafellows?

>>22562363
Wait, was the brother that kid with the ugly hat? Sounds depraved, I might have to revisit.

>>22562389
read the op

>>22562416
Yeah, looking through games from the mid 2000s can be quite interesting since the genre tropes hadn't quite settled in by then and the plots can be very strange.

Like this one https://vndb.org/v1316 where you are a do-s tsundere princess visting a magic school to find a wizard servant/boyfriend, or love revo (https://vndb.org/v3549)) which everyone used to know but seems to be kind of forgotten now, the weight loss dating sim with a full incest oniichan route (if I remember right).

>>22562515
>read the op
Already went through the faq, but it is not ranked it. I wan't to know which one is the best of the best.

Are we reminiscing now? Sweet Fuse was not good in any way but it was still a trip and also one of the first few otome games brought over, if I remember correctly.

Also, we should probably update the rec list.

>>22562527
There is no "best" otome or BL game because even within our general of about 50-60 people (which is stretching it, I think) our tastes are wildly different. That being said, a game most of us agree on as being very good is Hashihime. People also seem to love Taisho Alice, but I haven't played it yet. Go play Enzai first.

>>22562559
I understand, thanks for the answer.

>>22562480
>>22561887 is me >>22558401, so the answer is step-siblings .

>>22562402
Hiro getting pounded is the only fond memory I have of NTY, ojisan route was the letdown of the fucking century.

>>22562592
At least its not Ryu, the only character that managed to made gay sex not ugly, not bad, not infuriating, but really fucking boring.

>>22562521
>https://vndb.org/v1316
>MC-chan engages in sadism
>childhood friend is Kondou Takashi
>Bad Endings with Story
Anon, please stop tempting me. I'm very weak to those tags. Although I'm amused that the vita port also fixed the sorta wonky old style art, and gave MC-chan a bigger chest(?).

I played Love Revo too. I had an easier time going after oniichan than the yakuza heir. It was a weird.

>>22562559
I didn't play Sweet Fuse, but I dig that clean art style whenever I see it mentioned. I didn't expect the Ace Attorney artist to be the one behind it.

>>22562521
>where you are a do-s tsundere princess visting a magic school to find a wizard servant/boyfriend
Finally, a game that panders to me

>>22562609
Mahoustukai to Goshujinsama is fun, enough that I didn't mind the wonky PSP art and system at least. The MC is probably the best part of the game. Childhood friend and the do-m/yandere dragon familiar are the best boys.

The bad ends are more like normal ends though, aside from a midway game over the MC is basically fine and happy whatever you do.

>>22562687
>MC is probably the best part of the game. Childhood friend and the do-m/yandere dragon familiar are the best boys.
Thus mine own fate is sealed.

Thanks for the recommendation. I'll put that game in the top part of my backlog. I like lively MCs. It also helped that it has an all-star voice cast that includes Inoue Kazuhiko, and Suzuki Chihiro. I'm currently playing London Detective Mysteria in Lupin's route after I did Herlock's. It's strangely boring despite having the same scenario writer that created Animamundi, and Princess Nightmare.

>>22561932

>>22562966
>It's strangely boring despite having the same scenario writer that created Animamundi, and Princess Nightmare
Those were my thoughts as well, the cast was just a little blander and seemed like they were going through the motions with the scenario/sol scenes that made it less fun. It made go "meh I wish I was replaying PN right now"

>>22562966
The bizarre extra scenario with the goddamn underground city is by far the most interesting part. Just makes me wish I was playing that game instead.

Incestfags pls go.

>>22563145

>>22563145
Incest in these games is trash because it's almost always some shitty older brother or a distant cousin.

>>22563145
Twitter pls go. There's nothing wrong with having sex with your brother who eats your nails

I'm OK with incest in fap games but kinda eeeeeh in more "serious" story focused games. Am I weird? Unless it's a "this is so fucked up" this type of twist, I guess.

Magazine finally came in.

>>22563223
In Black Wolves Saga they pass it off by saying brother-sister marriages are normal in their culture.

>>22563018
>It made go "meh I wish I was replaying PN right now"
Exactly. I wonder what happened? Her last game game before that was the curazee Omerta. It seems she got her groove back in Omega Vampire from the favorable reviews I've seen.

>>22563255
Noice.

>>22563255
It's time.

>>22563255
Here are some key points I've picked up from a quick look-through

-Gusha S no Kyuusai is alive (?) again, offers new cg but no new info
-Chou no Doku on switch
-Uuultra C character introductions, lewd cg for first two couples but not the third
-Plug for Hashihime
-more Lucky Dog
-Tokyo 24ku character intros, short excerpts from the game
-a section going over previous popular bl games
-bura puri, an extremely racy omegaverse bl mobile game
-kemo kare, another racy mobile game
-powder gray gets one page and a couple of lewd cgs
-some stuff about Bustafellows

>>22563332
>more Lucky Dog
Whoa what?

>>22563352
I guess I shouldn't say "more" it's more like it's the 1 year anniversary and there's commentary and stuff.

>>22563332
>-Uuultra C character introductions, lewd cg for first two couples but not the third

>>22563397
That makes sense. Thank you. I'm looking forward to seeing all those things you mentioned earlier.

>>22563332
Wait, no, I messed it up, all those popular games it covers are ones that are going to be on mobile soon via Animate Games' browser system. Like, they're not applications. The first one out is Kichiku Megane.

Also, you can download pc games directly from their site, but they need DRM codes.

https://www.animategames.jp/

>>22563459
(continuation) I would assume the browser system is to prevent piracy. The games that are slated to work through Animate Games' mobile browser system are:

-愛は、憎しみによく似ている
-月ノ光、太陽ノ影
-鳥籠のマリアージュ
-僕と彼の危険な同居生活
-蛇香のライラ
-銀の冠 碧の涙
-マスカレード
-Paradise
-Pigeon Blood
-神学校
-コイビト遊戯
-オメルタ

I'll put the rest up soon.

>>22564060
Should we make a new thread earlier then?

>>22564119
Up to you guys, I'm still busy scanning and cleaning things up so I won't be done for a while.

>>22560430
Still waiting to see GS4's system. Also Haruka 7 and the new Angelique, whenever that is coming

>>22564060
>>22564119
>>22564146
May as well move in case you feel like posting shit in advance and the thread dies on us:

>>22564234
>>22564234
>>22564234
>>22564234

>>22564214
>Haruka 7 and the new Angelique, whenever that is coming
I've never actually played koei otome yet. What's a good one to try out?

>>22564278
One of the Vita ports like Kiniro no Corda 3, Angelique Retour, Geten no Hana, Harukanaru Toki no Naka de 1 or 3