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22004332 No.22004332[DELETED]  [Reply] [Original]

Reminder that you’re one simple knot away from leaving behind the shitty Outside World and escaping to Gensokyo.

>> No.22004338

>>22004332
False. Gensokyo is in everyone.

>> No.22004340

I want Yuuka to kill all phoneposters.

>> No.22004347

Why would Yuuka trick innocent anons into thinking suicide leads to Gensokyo?

>> No.22004352
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I hate living in this world, I can't talk to anyone because I have no idea what people of my age are doing. People still find me weird and they don't want to talk with me as well.
After finishing highschool people still bully me.
I don't wear what girls find atractive.
I'm so so lonely.

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>>22004352
Welcome to the club, you'll get used to it.

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>>22004367
Why 2huCon isn't a real thing. I do miss having friends

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>>22004352
>Kkhta
Now im serious

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>>22004332
>falling for her lies
enjoy being human livestock

>> No.22004430

>>22004352
Consider the fact that the majority of human suffering is because of other people and just feeling “lonely” is merely a byproduct of your primate brain trying to remind you homo sapiens evolved to be social animals in order to survive out in the wild. However rapid advancements in civilization and science rendered that issue of surviving moot but your primate brain wasn’t given enough time to catch up and realize being social isn’t necessary anymore.

Much like how our wisdom teeth used to be useful in the past when dentistry didn’t exist, but is now hindrance to us.

>> No.22004439

>>22004352
>I'm so so lonely.
Its all in your head. Half of /jp/ is with you how could you be lonely?

>> No.22004449

>>22004430
Humans was actually animals back then by some theory, so it make sense.

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>>22004430
Even in this modern world is more beneficial to communicate with people in other to get something from them and further advance ourselves or to reproduce.
>>22004439
It's not the same as talking to people irl or in the native language.

>> No.22004459

>>22004450
>It's not the same as talking to people irl or in the native language.
You're just greedy. I will not have a greedy person as a friend of mine.

>> No.22004466

>>22004459
It doesn't feel real, it's just some text on the screen, with no name.
I don't know who are you
You don't know who am I.
You will forget about me just as this thread will die.

>> No.22004472

Being alone is only lonely if you want it to be.

>> No.22004474

>>22004466
Doesn't mean this interaction is pointless. Doesn't mean this interaction didn't happen. You disgust me. Go wallow in self misery elsewhere. Why should anyone be friends with you if you can't appreciate others.

>> No.22004486

>>22004450
If you want personal growth and more knowledge, you basically have the library of Alexandria at the tips of your fingers. A few clicks away and you can being learning some new talent or hobby. Career advancements though, you’ll be forced to interact with your coworkers. So at least you can’t be “lonely,” even if you hate your boss.

And love and wanting to reproduce are probably the most biased things that came from evolution. All your ancestors that came before you had genetics and brain chemicals that preferred reproduction since all the genes would be passed down. Meanwhile all the asexual people or those that didn’t reproduce got weeded out so you see virtually no genes for not wanting to reproduce.

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>>22004474
>Doesn't mean this interaction is pointless.
I've never said that. I said there is not long term relationship, that's what friendship is. For me, friend is someone I can come back to, someone I can talk with again, here it is as I said before.
Sorry if I've insulted you in anyway, I didn't mean to dehumanise you in anyway. I just wanted to say that we won't talk ever again...

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>>22004332
Suicide becomes a viable option if your entire family is dead, you have no friends, and you're middle-aged and single. And in exchange for that worthless life, you get 2hus.

>> No.22004610

>>22004486
maybe some pills can supress my emotions?

>> No.22005971

>>22004472
;_;

>> No.22005987

>>22004347
Because she's cruel and evil.

>> No.22006052

>>22004450
>in the native language
I'd actually prefer to have a foreigner friend, since I really don't get along with many aspects of my country's culture, specially the culture of people around my age.

>> No.22007000

>>22004610
Can’t really take pills for the rest of your life just to suppress your instincts. Easier to recognize any stressful goal you are pressured to achieve like getting married or becoming popular is pretty much meaningless in the grand scheme of things. Personally, that realization takes a huge load off my back. I’m satisfied with getting by on the average with a regular job, playing games, and reading manga every day.

>> No.22007013

>>22004332
I want to go to gensokyo but i don't want to die...

>> No.22007106

>>22004352
>I don't wear what girls find atractive.
I didn't know there were clothes that make you taller and your jawline stronger

>> No.22007753

>>22007106
No, but suits make you look richer.

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>>22007106
Apparently flaunting your vanity through Gucci and Supreme clothing and accessories is considered attractive in today's society

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Little known fact that Sumireko's entire character and story arc are a metaphor for a 2hu fangirl's slow descent into insanity, psychosis, and escapism.

She's already made the transition, why can't you?

>> No.22009476

>>22009384
>She's already made the transition, why can't you?
Because my parents will be very sad if I leave them and never come back.

>> No.22009498

>>22009476
I wonder what Sanae's parents think happened to her.

"Turns out the gods were real and spirited away your daughter" probably doesn't curt it for them.

>> No.22009559

>>22004472
...or if you don't want to be alone.

>> No.22009570

>>22009384
I'd be friends with Touhou fangirl, where is she? We can be screwed up in the head, together.
Are there enough teenage toho fangirls in Japan for ZUN to have specifically singled them out?

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>>22009476
She's probably just an orphan that was adopted by a couple of deities.

>> No.22009597

>>22009591
meant for >>22009498

>> No.22009621

>>22004610
Pills are bad mojo. You still have to deal with those things when you get off them, it's postponing the inevitable.

>> No.22010288

Why are so many Touhou fans mentally ill?

>> No.22010294 [DELETED] 

>>22009476
They won't be sad when the inevitably die of old age.

>> No.22010300

>>22009476
They won't be sad when they inevitably die of old age

>> No.22010468

>>22010288
most people posting on 4chan are probably mentally ill on some degree

>> No.22010496
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>>22009384
Because dying is too much of a bother. There's a chance I might screw up and stay as a vegetable for the rest of my life. I'm also a wuss when it comes to any form of pain. Don't really care about family or friends if I die, since I lack the capacity to feel anything if I'm dead.

Assisted suicide should honestly be a more readily available option nowadays. For some people, forcing them to live is probably the worst kind of punishment you can inflict on a person. I didn't ask to be born, and I want out.

>> No.22010572

Reminder not to kill yourself before doing something that would be talked about both on /jp/ and mainstream news. Like dressing up as touhou and going on a shooting spree

>> No.22010590

>>22010496
>There's a chance I might screw up and stay as a vegetable for the rest of my life.
So? I don't want to encourage you, but it's not like there's much difference between being a vegetable and being dead. If you just incur brain damage, you might even spend the rest of your life a happy Koishi.
>I lack the capacity to feel anything if I'm dead.
>I'm also a wuss when it comes to any form of pain.
You can only feel the pain in retrospect, which you won't have if you died.

>Assisted suicide should honestly be a more readily available option nowadays.
I thought this, but in reading your post makes me think that people should have the conviction to kill themselves. The most anyone else should do is push them off a building and into a net, then ask the person if they still want to die afterwards. Think about Japs that committed seppuku just for the sake of protesting or something, and then look at yourself whining about your probably not-so-bad life.

If you really want to die, go take up a job with a high death rate and at least not die in vain.

>> No.22010599

>>22010572
Do not encourage bad crimes like that. Go back to /pol/.
If you must act out, go use a bunch of drugs or have sex with whoever you want wherever you want.

>> No.22010625
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>>22010572
Don't blemish Touhou and ZUN with bad publicity. At least pretend to praise some cancerous famous personality like Keemstar while on a shooting spree in an elementary school

>> No.22010711

>>22010590
> but it's not like there's much difference between being a vegetable and being dead.
Just an example, the are other ways it can go wrong and I could be fully conscious but have to be physically/mentally handicapped for life.

>You can only feel the pain in retrospect, which you won't have if you died.
There's a possibility you remain conscious after jumping off the Golden Gate bridge. You experience the immediate pain of your bones breaking and suffer the pain of drowning to death. Yes, the pain stops if I die but the process is unpleasant.

>people should have the conviction to kill themselves.
Assisted suicide today consists of tests and questions making sure you're mentally normal and going through the screening process and disclaimers should prove a person's conviction.

>Think about Japs that committed seppuku just for the sake of protesting or something, and then look at yourself whining about your probably not-so-bad life.
"Yes, and rich people exist who are miserable so what right do I have to feel happy if I'm not as rich as them? And how dare modern salaryman Japs kill themselves just because they're stressed out because slaves had it worse in the past!" You don't have the right to judge what someone ought to do when they contemplate suicide based on the quality of their life. It's all relative to the person and no one understands how they feel except themselves.

>If you really want to die, go take up a job with a high death rate and at least not die in vain.
Your subjective opinion that a person's worth is by how they contribute to society. Everything is ultimately objectively meaningless, human lives and society included.

>> No.22010790

>>22010496
lol just kys already edgelord faggot

>> No.22010944
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Read Seneca's "De Brevitate Vitae"
It brought me into a thoughtful understanding of suicide that allows me to go on living, knowing that I have the power to ultimately end means that I have the power to do anything!

>> No.22011493

>>22004371
Cons dont get you friends. They're only good for orgies if you're lucky enough, but usually only close friends are allowed to join. People go to cons in groups (meaning you already need friends)

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I don't even have a good reason to live beyond cute anime girls, my time as a NEET can be pulled away at any momenr because of the government and the worst part is theres no good place to hang myself from at home. No, I'm not going to overdose I already tried that like 8 times this shit sucks so much
>>22011493
Do con orgies really happen? I always see people memeing about it but it seems as truthful as brony orgies.

>> No.22011590

>>22010625
I want to give Touhou bad publicity so that nonvirgins and other normalfags stop liking it

>> No.22011594

>>22011549
>Do con orgies really happen?
only on furry cons

>> No.22011618

>>22011594
I can believe that since furries are horny scum

>> No.22011912

>>22010790
If you want to release your pent up, hormonal, teenage angst somewhere do it on /v/

>> No.22012148

>>22010288
Something wrong with that?

>> No.22012269

Suicide is natural selection, willingly admitting defeat, losing the game of life, which from what I can tell, the only way to "win" is dying of old age. These feelings usually result from a lack of something, a want, or a sadistic chemical trying to keep you trapped, perhaps both, the first should give you motivation, the second should give you an enemy, or at least a temporary one. Apathy is death, apathy being the mood that makes suicide effortless, and not taking action while depressed is being a victim of those chemicals or wants. Don't Stockholm yourself, fight. Do things, anything, that involve some kind of conflict, to both agitate yourself, and fight the suicidal depression.

>> No.22012273

>>22004352
Define "bully".

>> No.22013416

>>22012269
False interpretation that life is supposed to be some game or challenge. It’s just a phenomena that happens in nature that ultimately amounts to nothing. Millions upon millions of species that ever lived in the past are now extinct. The legacy of some peasant or slave 2000 years ago is so indescribably insignificant that they basically never existed. And even the legacy of some famous kings or pharaohs in the past are only deemed subjectively significant by humans today but eventually fade into obscurity. Fast forward millions of years into the future after humanity has gone extinct and all our pointless effort and legacies will be smothered out by the uncaring vast universe. We’re all going to die eventually. Some people want to die earlier than others, and that sounds fine. It’s their life and their decision, so just let them.

>> No.22013429

This thread proves that being a virgin turns you into a philosopher

>> No.22013478
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>>22013429
More time to think with a NEET lifestyle rather than the stressed out wageslave cuck that has their mind pre-occupied about their nagging bitchy wife that wants to talk about their feelings every 5 seconds and a pair of bratty kids that scream about losing in Fortnite every waking moment.

>> No.22013524

>>22013429
virgin NEET = transcendental philosopher is an axiom, everybody knows that having sex makes you a slave of the physical realm, smelly NEETs however don't feel such restrictions and are free to ponder about the mysteries of this world in peace

>> No.22013765

>>22009591
she's specifically a descendent of Suwako
so
hot steamy lesbian sex between konako and suwako I guess

>> No.22013789

>>22013765
A girl can't get another girl Pregnant. Suwako had sex with several different guys and has no idea who the father is, so she started dating Kanako so she wouldn't raise the kid by herself.

>> No.22014985

>>22013416
It's no wonder people feel suicidal with this line of thinking. How is anyone supposed to feel hope when "nothing will matter lol". I'm starting to think nihilism is both a tactic used by miserable people to make everyone else just as miserable, and an evolutionary failsafe to keep hopeless people from reproducing. Why feel hopeless when it's a weapon being pointed your way? Why not fight it? Why give up and say "time to die", if it's a shit test?

>> No.22014988

>>22013429
There has too be plenty of profound philosophers who got their dick wet.

>> No.22014995

>>22013478
NEET lifestyle is pretty stressful if unproductive.

>> No.22015049

>>22009384
I'm trying to submerge myself in as much escapism as I can, but it doesn't feel good yet. It used to feel good, but it doesn't as much anymore. I want to go to Gensokyo and feel good.

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>>22014985
People throughout history pondered questions about why we exist. People in the past have come up with other ultimate truths and beliefs in the past, namely religion. Religion gives people a false hope believing their existence and reason for being has purpose and there is an incentive to adhering to the tenets of a religion. Whether you believe in a God or not, this fact is true. If the Christian God exists, Vishnu and Zeus gave people false hope in the past. If Allah exists, other Gods from other religions gave people false hope.

However, the truth remains true regardless of what you believe. Much like how Mathematics is universal. 1+1 = 2 in America and 1+1 = 2 in Africa, regardless of that society's culture.

So presented with the truth that "Life is objectively meaningless" and you accept the fact Gods don't exist, it's natural to come to this conclusion without invoking some supernatural explanation.

The question is how you interpret it. Some people feel crushing hopeless and despair at the thought. And that's completely natural. Humans, along with basically all animals, are egocentric. People desire to feel that they themselves are important because that's literally how evolution works. Selfishness allows for the individual to survive over others and pass along with own genes instead of others. But just because "Life is meaningless" doesn't automatically mean is inherently hopeless. It's just indifferent to how we feel about it and interpret it.

Personally, I wouldn't consider myself a Nihilist because I believe you can create own your personal "Subjective Meaning" in life regardless of the absurdity of it all. I'm aware of the impending oblivion that awaits when I die, but I didn't exist for billions of years before I was born and I didn't really mind it. So I really won't mind it if I die and stop existing again. I realize everything is ultimately pointless, so I shouldn't stress out over the suffering in my life.

It's kind of like going to an Amusement Park that you can only enter once and your memory gets wiped after leaving. We're not going to a theme park for some express purpose of appeasing some God. We're just here for the ride and to enjoy ourselves before we have to leave. We only have one opportunity, so even though I'm aware that attending the theme park is ultimately meaningless, I'll just go with the flow and not get depressed over it.

In short, you can probably derive your own subjective form of hope despite how bleak Nihilism sounds.

>> No.22015750

>>22015464
The idea that there is no afterlife sucks the capacity for hope out of me. Nothing to prove this place has meaning, or it even exists, how do we know this is real if we will never look back on it in hindsight? If you believe in subjective meaning, why wouldn't you believe in an afterlife? Why wouldn't you believe that all religions are either parallel or all true and objectively reigning, all at once? Besides, this is /jp/, and we have 2hu, the perfectly and infinitely subjective and individualized modern religion that demands only continued faith in it's reality, no other strings attached, so why skip out?

>> No.22015815

>>22015750
An afterlife doesn't give existence meaning. There is no point or purpose to anything. I don't see why you need one though.

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>>22015750
>The idea that there is no afterlife sucks the capacity for hope out of me
Well, unfortunately you'll have to reconcile that problem yourself. However, a newborn baby inherently does not believe in the existence of the afterlife or some God. More often than not, they are indoctrinated into a religion by their parents, guardians, or surrounding community and culture. If a person was raised unaware about the idea of the afterlife however, I'm pretty sure they still have the capacity to feel hope.

>Nothing to prove this place has meaning, or it even exists, how do we know this is real if we will never look back on it in hindsight?
Maybe we're all stuck in a simulation or maybe you're the only self-conscious person in the world and we're all biological robots with artificial intelligence, who knows? Whether or not our reality and world is real doesn't really impact my satisfied lifestyle of playing games and reading manga.

>If you believe in subjective meaning, why wouldn't you believe in an afterlife? Why wouldn't you believe that all religions are either parallel or all true and objectively reigning, all at once?
Subjective meaning to me is just to live a quiet, peaceful life that grants me a satisfying amount of happiness. Nothing supernatural and nothing extravagant like wishing for some surreal grand paradise. Just because the idea of a religion or God makes you feel hope or feel good about yourself does not add to its validity. 1+1 =2 remains true no matter how much you lie to yourself. And I'd rather not waste my single life by living a lie.

I had Catholicism shoved down my throat since I was a child and avidly believed it because that's all I knew. My family was Catholic. My friends were Catholic. I was forced to go to Catholic school. I had to go to church every Sunday. I was basically brainwashed and avidly defended my religion from people who disagreed.

But they got me thinking and sometimes I would posit questions to my parents about questionable things in the Bible and I'd be met with cold stares. Reasonable enough arguments like how the Old Testament would clash with the Science I was learning in school and my Mother deflecting all my observations. Questioning the sheer amount of contradictions in the Bible and how cruel and genocidal God actually was. Questioning what's wrong with gay people even though the Bible thinks being gay is a sin. Presenting the idea and evidence for evolution and my Mother retorting "Were you there to have seen it?!"

As an aside, I did martial arts since I was 5. I had a karate instructor that I looked up to and had known him for 10+ years. He's a genuinely nice person and I respected him. My parents also took karate lessons too and were friends with him. However, I'd overhear my parents talking about how disappoint they were about the fact he was a Jew and how he would burn in hell. Coupled with the fact that my mother said all Muslims were evil, even though I had good Muslim friends, I just lost respect for them at that point. If religion was capable of making people that close-minded and disrespectful, I wanted no part of it.

Over time after listening to people who speak out against religion and reading numerous books that made me further question my faith, I basically stopped believing in God. I've heard stories and seen how religion damaged people's lives. Mormon's cult-like society, Islam's oppression of women, having the Westboro Baptist Church protest in front of my school, so on and so forth. And there's also the issue of evidence. Religion is entirely faith based and I'm a rational enough person to recognize that religions lack the evidence to prove their God is real.

So yes, religion as a whole left a chip on my shoulder as I've seen firsthand how insidious and manipulative it really is.

> Besides, this is /jp/, and we have 2hu, the perfectly and infinitely subjective and individualized modern religion that demands only continued faith in it's reality, no other strings attached, so why skip out?
Can't go wrong with 2hu though. It drives a pretty hard bargain.

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