/jp/ - Otaku Culture

>>21904129
any idea how long until the english patch comes out?

Reimu Otter deals no fucking damage holy shit

Is there something special about completing all achievements?

>>21904480
Last I remember, most of thpatch's translation was finished. I did a Youmu Wolf playthrough on release date, and everything up until stage 6 was available in English. I would expect it to be finished by now, but I am not sure.

>>21904816
oh, i forgot about the patch wiki.
I kept thinking it'd show up on nyaa as a new upload.

I'll look there

>>21904812
Doesn't matter when you take no damage.

I've been doing PCB scoring for 4 years without knowing how the cherry mechanic works
there's no excuse for you to not pick up scoring RIGHT NOW

>>21906511
Do you score on other games as well?

>>21906572
I gave IN and EoSD a go but I prefer to focus on one title. (Also I really like PCB)

Any have the 1cc chart for WBWC?

>>21906905
right here, I'll probably edit it later to say "W E O"

>>21906919
Thanks friend. Why WEO?

>>21906939
Wolf Eagle Otter, as opposed to ABC

>>21906948
WOE makes more sense since that's the order on the selection screen.

What happened to chartposting anyway? Post your charts!

>>21906964
>woe
Not him but I like ABC better. ‘Woe’ has a negative meaning.

>>21906977
You play as the villain in WBaWC so that's intended

>>21906948
>otter
I swear it was a hamster what the fuck?

>>21906975
Why? This isn't my blog.

>>21906975
Only the yuyufag cares about charts in 2019

>>21907060
A lot of posts here can already be reduced to "blogposts" if you try hard enough. (Just cleared x, struggling with y how do I do this etc.) As long as it's not recurrent or off topic there's no real harm.
Plus some of the charts had neat designs. It's as close to OC as we'll get.

>>21906975
No point posting a chart when you haven't made any progress.
Is 17 a notch up in difficulty compared to 16, or am I just that out of practice?

>>21906975
Fuck off. Chartposting was cancer and still is.

I don't like the new game

>>21907329
>Chartposting was cancer and still is
Why is that anon?

>>21906919
I want to incorporate achievements into mine so I'm rolling with something like this for now but it feels like there's better ways to format it.

>>21907443
Everyone just has to show off their mega epic animated charts with two normal 1cc's so they post them at least once per thread accompanied with some generic "What game should I work on next?" message. They don't contribute to the discussion in any meaningful way and only other chartposters might care about them so it turns into a circlejerk.

>>21907381
Why?

>>21907916
Music is shit, newhus are shit, gimmick is recycled UFO shit, story is lolk tier shit.

>>21907944
ok fag

>>21908073
enjoy your dead thread

Remember when Yachie's last card was final-boss-tier?

Chart posting is fine and not any less of a meaningful contribution than the people regurgitating how doing X, Y or Z is cheating every other thread in response to an ambiguous topic or posting short quips like congrats or you suck. At least people posting their charts shows there are still individuals who care enough to continue progressing towards whatever their goals are and can share it with like minded individuals. I don't know in what conceivable way it detracts from discussions when half the time people ask anything, there's a single response to the question at most.

>>21908211
completely different spell. It's more like one of Satori's spells.

>>21908934
So you're saying chartposting is the cheating of Touhou threads?

>>21908934
>congrats
the comiket music thread is two pages down

Why can't I get Touhou 17 from steam?

>>21909738
Just pirate it for now. When the game come out, then you can give ZUN your money.

>>21909772
Would've thought he'd release it everywhere at once. Stupid decision.

>>21904129
>Have people settled on their favorite character/goast yet?
Woof Marisa. Reimu is still fat and she forgot how a forward focus shot is supposed to work (and homing is kind of shit this time around)

>>21909738
>>21909785
Are you new? He comes from the doujin scene, of course he'd give them priority. There's also the fact that if you're not willing to put yourself out there under the sun to wait in a line for your game, which is how ZUN would want you to acquire his games, then you don't have much right to complain.

>>21906975
Maybe one day I'll decorate my ugly chart

>>21907225
This is a pretty nice aesthetic anon
>>21909738
Because its not out yet, lol

Has someone made a patch of saki’s timeout yet?

>>21910230
>Are you new
Yes. Finally decided to try one of these games after hearing about how great they supposedly are. Heard a new one just released so figured I might as well start with that.

>how ZUN would want you to acquire his games
I don't really care about that, I'm not going to kill myself whenever I want to try a video game. Thinking a game is worth jumping through hoops to acquire is just silly. They aren't some sort of sacred object that only those who are worthy may try. I'll just assume you were kidding. And whoever this zun is sounds like he doesn't know how to efficiently distribute games and needs to stop living in the past.

>>21910958
>sounds like he doesn't know how to efficiently distribute games and needs to stop living in the past.
Lurk more.

>>21910958
based and redpilled.
Are people really so cucked that they go out of their way and jump through hoops just to be able to pay for it? I don't even want to buy those games on steam.
Because ZUN is shit.

>>21910958
He would stop making shoot ‘em up if he is not such a conservative person.
ZUN is a one-man-developer and touhou is a twenty-three-year-old series. Back when digital releases weren’t even a thing, ZUN started the career of touhou from selling his CDs piece by piece at comiket. Even though he sells digital releases nowadays, he still enjoys the feeling of delivering his works by his own hands.
If you still don’t get the point of it, just takes those physical CDs as early access for vips, you either go to the presentation or wait for its release date.

>>21910958
Jesus just wait a few days until it releases on steam

>>21911036
based on what?

>>21910958
Since you don’t know the creator of the series, I assume you have no idea what touhou is.
How do you even know this board?

Anyway, I suggest you should watch a play through of previous official games to decide if it worth you 15 bucks.
Most people here don’t play official touhou games, but they still like touhou for its lord, music, waifu, fangame or whatever season.

That’s why ZUN sales his game in his way.
He doesn’t really care if people buy his games on steam or not.
Most of his revenue comes merchandise not the game itself.

>>21908211
No, it was stage 4 tier

>>21907532
>with two normal 1cc's
That was minority though. I remember a lot of people having several lunatic or extra 1ccs,.

do any of you guys review other (new) player's replays?
I'm pretty new to touhou and I started off with IN. I watch my own replays but I have no idea what to look for, and I'm abysmal at noticing patterns. I was wondering if any of you could take a look at mine and give any tips on lessening my deaths on stages 4 and 5

>>21912981
Feel free to post it, but any advice ultimately amounts to practicing established strategies for every section and bombing more. Just find a youtube video of a perfect run, copy the parts that you can execute, practice the parts that you can sometimes execute, and bomb through the parts you can't.

Got up to stage 5 boss before game over in my first attempt. Keep getting progressively worse the more I play and can't even get through stage 4 consistently now. Why is my brain so trash?

>>21912981
I don't review replays but I annoy them in twitch with backseat gaming

>>21912981
people used to do that. what do you have to lose?
>>21913073
well, folks should definitely try doing their own homework (it'd cut down on a lot of repeated q&a, for sure), but there is the rare attack where it isn't obvious from a replay what the player is doing differently. the real kicker though is when the issues are more about fundamentals than strats. those can be easy to miss for a newb, and even follks with a bit of experience can fall into bad habits without realizing it and can have trouble seeing their own problems. for instance: maybe they're reacting late, so you can ask where they're looking onscreen.

>>21904129
What's the best way to record gameplay?

>>21911064
>>21911324
Just want you to know that your cult-like zealotry scared a new player away from trying to get into the fandom. I don't think I want to play these games if it's assumed I have to worship someone.

>>21911324
>most people don't play the official games
speak for yourself.

>>21913392
I use OBS

>>21911324
>Most people here don’t play official touhou games
You're on the Touhou Gameplay Thread, you dingbat
What do you think people do here

>>21913073
Thanks, heres a dl link
http://www.mediafire.com/file/9muwqjcqv6pi1sy/th8_02.rpy/file
>>21913253
I feel like I just have real poor positioning, when I watch other people they always know where they should be for the next part of the stage whereas I just move around like an ape. I also went into S4 and S5 blind because I just started playing yesterday, but I'm sure I'll be able to sort these things out with time.

Also my silly death on S3 was because I looked away without pausing.

>>21913739
1. Press shift more. Why are you fighting bosses as Reimu?
2. Press x more
3. Practice hard spells in spell practice

Positioning is completely irrelevant at your skill level it's pointless to worry about it.

>>21913128
Most of stage 4 is just streaming, though it probably has the worst case of colours mess since the same stage of MS

>>21913863
thank you good sir I'll try to incorporate this stuff into my gameplay
>Why are you fighting bosses as Reimu?
Is the extra damage the only reason to fight the bosses as yukari or are their other reasons? I have to get into the habit of sitting on shift rather than just using it for short moments.

Oh. YoumuEagle's focus shot IS bugged. Felt like something was off with how long it took to do some boss patterns. Great job ZUN. At least it's not a MoF MarisaB all over again.

>>21914378
are there any patch notes?

>>21914378
>Eagle
lel

>>21914571
There's patch notes for the 1.00b patch. These bugs are found after the patch though. Doubt ZUN will make a 1.00c.
>>21914601
Rude. Also I'm going for 40/40 so I have to play everything anyway.

>>21914378
In exactly what way?

>>21914715

>>21914324
Reimu's bullets hit slaves (those floating orbs circling big fairies for example) while yukari's goes through them. Destroying slaves is usually not worth it and they tank most of the bullets so you'll kill everything much faster as yukari.

>>21914737
ZUN will patch it, right?
right?

>>21914755
Yeah like MarisaB in MoF

>>21914324
IN scoring and last words are tied into character swapping, but that's not something you'd worry too much about if you're new. The short of it is Reimu gets more points for shooting stuff and Yukari for grazing.
Also Reimu can kill familiars (killable bright things that enemies sometimes create) , while Yukari can't, but also can't get hit by them. Switching at the right time can make some things incredibly easier, like Keine's nonspells.

>>21910958
Just get the fuck out forever.
>>21913413
And that's a good thing. People who don't want to adapt just need to stay away, since they don't have the personality requirements to play those games.

Just got the 1cc achievement from watching a friend's replay of stage 6 in practice mode.
T-Thanks ZUN

All these bugs that ZUN won't ever bother to fix. The game was clearly rushed out and pretty much not tested at all. I mean come on just bombing breaks the survival spell in extra. HSiFS already had a very similar bug but this is even worse since pretty much everyone is going to bomb there unless they figure out the spell on their first try.

the absolute state of steamfags

>>21914737
>>21914755
>>21914769
Doesn't the vsync patch fix Marisa B? It could do the same thing here, assuming one for WBaWC is made of course

>>21914741
>>21914789
thank you friends

>>21913128
This is normal, your brain is not trash.
When you play for the first time, everything is new, you have no idea what to expect, but you are focused. As you practice, you will gain experience and learn the patterns, but also lose focus – especially on the easier parts.

A few things to ask yourself, and some personal opinions:
* Are you currently playing to clear the game or to practice? During your first run, you may have been trying to get as far as possible, and thus used a lot of bombs. As you practice more difficult sections without bombing, you will naturally die more often and thus not get as far.
* How do you practice? To maintain focus, try to minimize practising easy sections. First practice the stages that give you problems. Once you can do the stage portions consistently (perhaps with bombs), narrow it down to only practice the spell cards that give you problems.
* Do not aim for perfection. This is not a question, just a clarification to the previous point: you'll easily lose focus and interest if you aim for perfect straight away. If you cannot do a spell card or stage portion consistently even after repeatedly trying, then just bomb it.
* Do you stay motivated/focused? When I keep dying to stupid things, I take a break. Or I practice something actually difficult, depending on my mood. I would suggest that you only play the "arcade mode" when you are serious about trying to clear the game, so that you do not develop bad habits. In practice mode, you can experiment and push yourself, but in the arcade mode, when you are seriously trying to get as far as you can, you should play smart and avoid risks. I would also suggest that you avoid resetting excessively: resetting too often cheapens your commitment to your runs, and also wastes your time on the easier early stages.

These are all just opinions, and things that Works On My Computer(tm), but I made this serious looking graph, so clearly my opinion is the correct one!

>>21913993
Honestly it's worse. I've been playing MS a lot lately. Those blue knives on the blue background at least have large bright outlines. WBaWC's bullets all seem to have outlines that are either thin, dim, or both. It's a problem on at least half the game's stages.

>>21914888
>I mean come on just bombing breaks the survival spell in extra. HSiFS already had a very similar bug
Why do people just go and assume it's a bug? If you have to bomb the spell then clearly you're not good enough to capture so why even play the whole thing out when it won't matter?
It's that same kind of "let's ease up on the player a wee tad" philosophy that's likely also responsible for bumping down the Extra unlock requirement from "1cc the main game in Normal difficulty or higher" to merely "1cc the main game"

>>21915614
Using releases in hsifs still allows you to capture the spell so it's clearly a bug.
>If you have to bomb the spell then clearly you're not good enough to capture so why even play the whole thing out when it won't matter?
Defeating the boss is what matters. That card might as well not exists right now if you aren't doing a no bomb run.

>>21915164
cute graph.
i wish i had a sensible one for "arcade mode", but for me it just ends up being wwwww

>>21914890
I was going to make a comment about thpatch also having an optional fix for that bug but I decided to double check and actually they don't! But you know what I just discovered they had? A patch that restores the Esc + R shortcut to restart the game as fast as possible.

I can just imagine how much better this is going to make the game when I'm just binge-playing it for hours trying to get 1ccs but I'm still wondering what reason ZUN could have possibly had to get rid of it.

>>21915754
>what reason ZUN could have possibly had
Since esc+r is actually listed in the controls list in the manual it's pretty much certain that he just fucked up.

>>21915664
You can't use release at the final spellcards though and some of them are the hardest in the whole series.

>>21916863
I think you missed the point there buddy. Read the conversation over again.

How do you play youmu?
I tried youmu in normal and I ran out of lives at stage 3.
Her shift attack can’t hit enemies from the bottom and I constantly died when I went up and unheld shift.

>>21917143
For stages, memorize literally every spawn that doesn't just shoot streaming patterns so you kill things before they shoot anything. For bosses, find moments where you can safely move up a little to fire a slash then move back down. You also don't need to unhold shift if you don't want to. Releasing the z button also fires a slash. Also YoumuEagle is bugged as per the above discussion so use the other two.
There's probably like a hundred videos of the game on youtube now too so go watch those.

>>21917191
Okey, thank you so much. I guess memorizing is a big deal for youmu.

>>21917143
Use wolf if you aren't already. It increases the distance and damage her slashes deal so you can hit bosses from the bottom and spell cards die in 5 or 6 slashes usually. Easiest shot to beat the game with besides otter cheese.