/jp/ - Otaku Culture

Fuck I forgot the thread subject mods please delete

Arc is a semen gargler

Illya is cute!

>>21855617
It still shows up in a search though so I don't think it really matters.

>>21855784
It doesn't show up if you search "tmg" so I think it might be best to make a new one.
We'll see if mods delete this one first I guess.

Hey does anybody know where I can find an online PDF/files for the Japanese version of Kara No kyokai? I'm practicing Japanese and wanna read it in that language. (I've already read in English.)

>>21856083
https://itazuraneko.neocities.org/shousetu/b/%E5%A5%88%E9%A0%88%E3%81%8D%E3%81%AE%E3%81%93_%E7%A9%BA%E3%81%AE%E5%A2%83%E7%95%8C/index.html

You can download an epub version of them there if you don't wanna read it online.

8th for where is an mahoyo text dump

Has anyone finished Mahoyo or at least partially read it?
Opinions?

>>21856146
Thank you very much.

>>21856210
I finally read it all earlier this year in french (except for that one extra chapter which is not TL'd sadly).
It's fucking amazing, visually it's legitimately the peak of visual novels. It also has Nasu's best writing when it comes to characters, slice of life, and action. Super unique atmosphere, it feels like an old Nasu work while still being its own unique thing. The whole main cast is fantastic, the school's side characters are the best in any TM work so far...
Quite a few things that could be further explored in the planned sequels and that I hope to see one day, but it still works well enough as a self contained story

>>21856210
It's alright, feels a lot like putting the KnK movies into an VN format to me for some reason. some very ass-backwards choices made in it's production though, like having "bonus" chapters that take place between main chapters, which are actually important and get referenced in later chapters making my question why the fuck they were ever "bonus" in the first place. mostly thinking of chapter 1.5 I think.

also no voices because nasu which doesn't bother me, but is still a big fucking minus for some people and shouldn't be ignored. The best chapter is also halfway through the game and the most visually pleasing which kinda makes the rest feel more like a long epilogue. then there's also several elements that are teased all the way from the start of the VN only to never be addressed or finished because nasu had them planned for mahoyo 2 and 3. In the end I guess I feel about it like I would have felt about F/SN if f/sn only contained the fate route. I like the characters well enough and the story does have a logical conclusion, there's just obviously more to explore here and it doesn't give me the same "impact" a big dick VN like MLA or Muramasa did, due to only being a fraction of their length. what I will say is that it's miles better than CCC despite being released just one year earlier, fuck everyone shilling that game.

>>21856564
How the fuck does stuff past chapter 5 feel like an "epilogue" when that's pretty much when the VN starts for real, and the main characters start living together, which is the main character dynamic of the whole VN?
The fights in chapters 10 and 12 are so much more important, impactful, and interesting than 5's, even if 5 is visually a bit more impressive.
I would say 90% of Mahoyo's best moments happen from chapter 9 onwards, the 2nd half of it is overall much stronger than the first. The side characters also shine a lot more in 8.5.
Could not disagree more with this idea that chapter 5 is in any way the peak of Mahoyo just because it was made later.

>>21855617
Good op pic, I forgive you.

>>21855614
meh op

>>21856564
>muh voices
>liking MLA
Disregarded. Sometimes people don't know what's best for them.

>>21857608
Not him but I love Mahoyo and MLA and he explicitly said the voices weren't an issue for him. I disagree about chapter 5 being the best but oh well.
People are entitled to their own tastes, it's still a valuable opinion.

>>21857849
>and he explicitly said the voices weren't an issue for him.
Which is why I added the second sentence.

>>21857916
Implying having voices in visual novels shouldn't be an industry standard is fucking retarded, especially when anybody that has issues with it can just turn them off.

>>21858090
That would be justifiable, if Mahoyo was a VN.
It's a kinetic novel, no voices, no choices, only music, visuals and text.
It would have to be reworked to make voices work and not be a detriment.

>>21858428
Uh, how so? It wouldn't be any different. Umineko is a (much longer) kinetic novel and it received a voiced version, which is often considered extremely good. In-fact there are many kinetic novels with voices.

>>21859361
Umineko is really a VN.

>>21858428
There would have to zero reworking, while the writing style is heavily focused on a third person narrative there is plenty of normal dialogue in direct quotes. I can even go full meme and suggest that they hire some random old guy to be the narrator if you really want me to.

>>21859767
Now you're reminding me of Ian McKellen reading the UBW chant.
That is something I don't wish to remember.

>fuck up opening post
>dead
who woulda thunk

>>21861032
We're not really any deader than usual anon.

>>21856564
>In the end I guess I feel about it like I would have felt about F/SN if f/sn only contained the fate route
Mahoyo does feel a bit exposition heavy at times and would gain a lot from a sequel, but if you compare it in a vacuum with fate route Mahoyo is easily Nasu's better work.
>>21858428
Don't get fooled by marketing anon, vns and kns are the same thing.

I love how a semi obscure title is now a gacha game that everyone can enjoy together.

>>21861282
I don't

>>21861282
(You)

>>21861282
I too enjoy x-drive unlimited anon.

>>21862089
x-drive unlimited is 20% okay and 80% a disaster

>>21862797
I want akiha to both be my imouto and my girlfriend.

>>21864127
Same!

>no new Requiem volume
Nice to see that Meteor has learned something from Nasu.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xj9D1MLr_M0&list=PLdWuc_xyC-UWNs40hGIDJMs0SrFgmJH6g&index=62&t=0s
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Npdw2JrPEFw&list=PLdWuc_xyC-UWNs40hGIDJMs0SrFgmJH6g&index=63&t=0s

lol..........................................................

>>21862097
nah they've been running for 2 years and still haven't achieved the level of lore rape that FGO did in year 1

>>21864551
How many chapters does vol 1 have?

I'm sure Dies Irae gacha would've been amazing.

>>21865515
It already did its work.
RIP Light.
Who is next? Leaf?

>>21865741
Type Moon, hopefully.

After reading that Nero thread on /a/, I gotta ask: who do you guys think has been through the most character assassination throughout the years, and why?

>>21865924
Boudica
or Saber

>>21865924
There are worse, but FGO's not doing Archer too many favors. Bit by bit he's just becoming "food man."

>>21865924
/fgog/ is a shitshow too atm.

>>21865924
Arturia, probably. A lot of her character themes and developments from the original have been retroactively diminished.

>>21865924
Shirou, just because emiya alter exists and is fucking retarded.

they could have just done mind of steel shirou, but they just had to due some bullshit with kiara and a wage backstory only hinted at in a fucking material book involving taiga that they never expand upon.

It's not like emiya alter even needed to be in the shinjuku chapter, it's like they only wrote him in to make Kiara even more of a big deal in the CCC collab that was coming up.

>>21865924
I'm not really up to date on the latest terrible things that Type Moon has done, but Kohaku being a completely fucking different character outside of Tsukihime always bothered me.

>>21866059
I like the silly Kohaku, but there's no denying that it's probably some of the worst character assassination out there. Like, outside of the first game and parts of Kagetsu Tohya, she isn't even remotely the same character.

>>21866065
Yeah I mean the whole "silly kohaku and her drugs" thing was alright in the comedy bits of Kagetsu Tohya, but then that became her entire character and anything from the original was totally forgotten.

>>21865924
Kohaku, by far.
Fuck magica amber and everything she represents.

>>21865924
Not so much character assassination but the most inconsistent character has got to be Gil.

>>21866122
That's the entire Tsukihime cast desu
Hisui became just a brick
Akiha now is a two-bit brocon tsundere
Ciel is just Curry McVampireHater
Arc had a more somber (and mean) side she lost to become a ditzy blonde waifu

>>21866154
I don't think Arc ever lost her mean side, it just became a bit more silly over time. She's still a troll, though.

>>21865924
Ciel’s character is only ever used for “curry xDDD” and as a measuring stick for powerlevelfaggotry, if Nasu even bothers remembering her at all.

>>21866183
>and as a measuring stick for powerlevelfaggotry
That's actually hilariously accurate. Outside of Tsuki threads I ONLY see her brought up in terms of power levels, holy shit

>>21866183
>>21866194
I mean, as much as I love Tsuki, Ciel was a bad character.

>>21866154
it implies to way more than just tsukihime

emiya is nothing but a glorified cook now
the "rin loves money so much haha" joke got so big that CCC rins dungeons is all about it, when that isn't even supposed to be the same fucking rin.

and lets not forgot about shit that doesn't even directly involve characters like the saberface "joke" where they keep fucking making saberfaces and act like its "self-aware" and "funny"

>>21866264
Ciel's not a bad character. Her route is just too much like Arc's. There needs to be more of "Shiki going crazy and breaking chairs" and less of Arc route 2.0 but more boring.

>>21866183
At least people sometimes remember she exists

>>21866271
Her good ending is having to share Shiki with Arcueid against her will, for God's sake.

Went to the last /fgog/ thread to see what the deal was that you guys mentioned. Turns out our local Aokofag lashed out against the possibility of Aoko getting put into FGO and GOfags exposed their delusions again.

>dude why are you so serious about an eroge and so invested in this LMAO
>they still feel no responsibility for how things have turned out because "FGO would still exist without us lol"
>they don't understand the risk of throwing any existing character into that trash fire
>they don't realize how hard Shiki got fucked in FGO thanks to Void and her self-insert pandering
>they don't understand how much more painful it would be for Mahoyo or Tsuki characters to be put into the gachashit, with no Mahoyo 2 or Remake in sight

What the fuck is wrong with them? Where did they go wrong?
Sometimes I can't help but wonder how we're in the minority. Like yeah, obviously people who aren't that into Type-Moon and don't take it seriously will always be more numerous than those who do... but how are there so many actual hardcore TMfags who still eat up FGO and don't see anything wrong with its growth and TM's obsessive focus on it? Fuck man, everything about FGO just seems so objectively wrong to anyone who cares about Type-Moon, I still don't get the GOfag perspective. They must be close to Nasu's level of delusion.

>>21866712
Why you guys even try to reason with gacha cumbrains is beyond me. They literally waste hundreds of dollars and dozens of hours of their time on literal trash, they aren't an intelligent bunch.

>>21866730
I don't try to argue with them anymore, like I said just went back to read the thread cause >>21865960 mentioned it.

Still absolutely fucking baffles me though, I don't get it.

>>21866730
/fgog/ I only persist in for keeping up with things.
Case in point, the place is now going through /co/ shitposting.
Sigh, I wish I could stop caring.

>>21866712
Thanks for the support.
I couldn't just sit and watch them spout their slander.

>>21866712
>>21866755
What are you guys talking about? Links?

>>21866774
It's just the previous thread, look for posts about Aoko >>>/vg/262272296
Really not that interesting or crazy of a discussion but still, their perspective on putting characters into the game, and how seemingly okay they are with non-Fate properties getting ignored other than when they're being put into a shitty gacha game is obnoxious as ever.

the shitty FGO writing and lore rape bothers me, but I'm also bothered by the fact that reading that game feels like staring into zombie eyes. They brush away so much shit they should really write about because "it's a gacha game with a self insert lol"

They never adress how the fuck it's possible that guda and mashu aren't actively fucking for example, after all this time. Even mahoyo had a line about how autist-king soujuurou is bothered by living alone in a house with two attractive teenage girls. In FGO it feels all of the characters only exist when they're onscreen, and then they just shift out of existence. The singularities/lostbelts are only a tiny fraction of the actual timeline, and yet it feels like nothing else exists. I literally don't even know what the fuck guda/mash/the servants supposedly do all day.

>>21866795
for example, guda actually mentions that he still can't do basic fucking magic like strengthening his vision in LB1. and as far as I can tell the first indication we have had that he even works out at all was in the lostroom OVA, not even the fucking game.

>>21866795
Yep, everything about it is so lifeless, it just feels disconnected and low effort all around. A lot of it is cause of the awful medium, mobage were not meant to tell a story with endearing characters, much less a long term one that spans years.
I believe that they could do better with adapting a story to a gacha game now that they have this experience, but that's still not what I want at all. In a real Nasu work you're always following the protagonist closely, living with their thoughts, facing every day's challenges with them, getting used to their routine, and witnessing their interactions with other characters, It's not left as "background" shit or fanfic bait. FGO just fails at being a proper main TM work on so many levels.

is Akiha a good person?

Speaking of Aoko and FGO, people say she's probably the XXXX person in Fujino's entry.

>>21866896
She tries. The inversion impulse and her own issues don't help, but she tries.

>>21866926
I thought it was Azaka?
To be fair, teen!Aoko and Azaka are way too similar, to the point the that entry could be describing either one

>>21866937
Fujino compares that person to her friend who is 99% Azaka so nah i don't think that is Azaka herself.
Also that person uses beam.

>>21866896
the real question is whether she deserved to die or not.

>>21866926
you can be a horrible monster and still be a good person at heart

I guess it all depends on your personal view if a single shitty action makes somebody a fuckhead for the rest of their life

Nero and Tamamo are just "extroverted magical girlfrend" type characters in a servant package.
Yay or nay?

>>21867181
thats every female character now

If they aren't just make an alt version that is

>>21866755
Keep on fighting the good fight Aoko brother.

In terms of design only, what's your opinion on Mystic Codes in FGO ?

>>21867381
Pretty meh, nothing special. The one you posted is probably the best original one, though it looks awful on nu-Sion.

>>21867412
Well, the nuSion one is a bit different actually.
Also those fucking legs

now imagine:

a Fate based video game with a more fleshed out MonHun/Witcher combat system where you play as a Servant in a HGW.
The enemy servants and masters are randomly generated each time, and you fight them in a gauntlet style match every round within a small city.
Of course there's so much more potential in it than that.

>>21867451
Fate has a really good formula for making some neat video games.
And so what do we get:
>a JRPG mobage
>musous
>RPS bullshit
>some decent unofficial fighting games
>a bonus tower defence game
>some other assorted bonus games
It is annoying, the original Fate/RPG project could've been the ticket, too bad it actually takes effort to execute.

Will you play the Capsule Servant mobage ?

>>21865388

Visiting from the shithole that is /fgog/ to tell you that there's a very high possibility artoria lancer, a character with literally no personality or writing to her name, will be a secret summer event servant. and they'll put her in a bunny suit, ears included.

>>21868205

>>21868205
>secret summer event servant
>secret
it is just part 2 isn't it

>>21868205
it hurts to see one of the only FGO original characters I liked get stamped into the ground even further

>>21868387
can't get more secret than that considering every story chapter has a 2 day time lock

>>21868395
They will show all summer servants in the CM anyway

>>21868405
They might have gone hyper kike and decided not to make summer CM this year, because they already paid for the anniversary CM and can just reuse that.

>>21868394
>one of the only FGO original characters I liked
Who's that servant ?

>>21868418
Artoria Lancer, because at the very least, her character was coherent enough to make sense.

>>21868205
>Nasu and co. went to Hawaii for FGO 2018 Summer event
>Nasu went to Las Vegas for FGO 2019 Summer event
i hate this mushroom

>>21868418
Pretty sure he's talking about the lion king from the camelot singularity, which is big-tits artoria turning into a goddess, from having used her holy lance for too long, who has no problems being a complete psycho to ensure a few humans survive goetia burning history to the ground.

Then they removed all the crazy parts for the playable unit you can summon and said "this isn't the lion king but she possibly could have turned into one." She's pretty bland and generic but not really that offensive. The they don't do anything with her for literally 3 years because nasu only ever wanted to write the lion king, and the playable version was written for gacha bucks. Fanbase eventually memed her into being mommy-gf because she has big tits.

>>21867451
flat is also very long

>>21867451
>ywn watch the El-Melloi Show while drinking tea and sharing a kotatsu with gil and clae who think you can't see them give each other handies under the table

>>21867451
>witcher combat
>good for Fate
what

>>21867448
Takeuchi may have grasped how long human arms should be (he slips into gorilla arma sometimes tho), but his legs are still fucked up

Ciel with glasses or without?

>>21869225
Without, glasses are always ugly.

>>21869261
based

>>21868205
Well

>>21869225
without

>>21869225
Are Ciel's glasses Mystic Eye Killers?

Every time I watch/t\read casefiles I remember why I like type moon and my anxiety about where the rest of the series is headed temporarily fades away.

>>21870310
It's really that good?

>>21870312
I don't know if it's just that good, or if it's just better than what else is coming out recently.It's comforting to see something take place in the actual world without servants.

>>21869911
wtf that's a saberface
for the life of me

Is White Len much stronger than normal Len?

>>21870732
Normal Len is a very powerful familiar, but it's not clear how that translates to direcr combat.
As Tatati-lite, White Len is very combat-specced, so I think White Len would have the upper hand
I can be wrong tho

>>21870312
no it's pretty average it's just tonely consistent with the universe pre-extra

Any non-EOPs know a way to make learning Japanese bearable? Memorization of vocabulary has never been my strong suit. Currently fluent in English and Portuguese.

Really want to read Mahoyo and DOD 1.3. Like hella bad.

>>21871630
You literally just have to keep doing it until you get good. Anki is helpful for memorization, but in the end the only way you get better is just "read more."

>>21871637
Can't say I haven't heard this before, for all 3 languages. Now that I've heard it on 4chan, it must be true lol. Guess I gotta find Japanese LN raws now.

>>21855614
what five battles is this scene referencing too? day 11, 2nd interlude of UBW route.

>>21871660
Well don't start off with LNs unless you like suffering. I'm assuming you are at total beginner level here. Start off with easier stuff like manga and then just work your way up.

>>21871685
...That hadn't crossed my mind. Manga tend to be fan-translated a whole lot more then LNs so I didn't think it. I think I'll do that instead.

>>21871710
Well you'll suffer for a while anyway, but that's just how it is.

>>21871668
It's written right above it?
Berserker, Lancer, Rider, Saber, Archer.
Assassin fought and repealed all of them

Hahaha

>>21871918
>Sample
Well still, nice.

>>21871918
A-At least she's fucking Waver there and not self-insert-kun

>>21871960
Have Shizuki and Alice even appeared in something that isn't Mahoutsukai?

>>21871976
>Shizuki and Alice
Who?

>>21871976
Nah, probably Chibichuki I guess.

>>21871976
No, because at the very least soujuurou is 100% guaranteed to die at the end of mahoyo 3 and vanishes from the timeline.

>>21871630
Just grind kanji and tae kim for a few months and then start reading random moeshit VNs with a texthooker attached that spits out furigana for you.

can't imagine learning from manga will be very fast since the text ratio is way lower.

>>21872287
>guaranteed
Didn't know you could see the future of fictionnal words anon.
>vanishes from the timeline.
Yeah, because a character dying in a timeline is known to stop Nasu for using them again.

>>21872305
Recommending someone just grind kanji and a okay beginner's guide for a few months is far slower than just reading some easy manga right now. Yes, use Tae Kim or whatever as a grammar reference when you have no idea what the fuck you are doing, but everyone should move past that stage fast. It's a huge waste of time. You learn grammar by reading.

>>21872287
So it was Aoko who was responsible for moving the release date to the end of the universe...

>>21872357
It is one of the most obvious red flags and incentives for character growth.

>>21872996
>Aoko moved Soujuurou's death far in the future
>Soujuurou almost certainly dies in later Mahoyo
>Aoko delaying later Mahoyo far into the future saves Soujuurou
BRAVO NASU.
Either that or anime is already real and they control us.

>>21873745
I am confuse.

>>21873745
they couldn't resist using Tsukihime characters, could they?
even for this, I'm pissed.

>>21873766
Sasaki Shonen was invited to draw a special page for that FGO Duel chapter (like Hiroyama Hiroshi and Takenoko in previous chapters before) and he drew Tsukihime manga, so...
For FGO, he is the illustrator of Emiya Alter and Fuuma Kotarou. Now he is in charge of Shinjuku manga too.

>>21871630
>a way to make learning Japanese bearable
You can't. Just download Mahoyo and power through it.

>>21873745
Hey, Ciel got her old hair back

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pdbbXoLkpxA Bunny titoria confirmed

>>21874256

>>21874260
on one hand, I hate Nasu and what he's doing with TM, but on the other hand, I still like Artoria Lancer.

>>21874260
so she got that job with Heff, a couple of years late though.

>>21874260
that's actually the fucking lion King and not titoria lancer from Chaldea. Can't wait to see the excuse for this giant lore rape. Disgusting.

>>21874289
>Can't wait to see the excuse for this giant lore rape.
$$$

>>21874260
Well, uh, at least the porn might be good? Not sure what else to say.

Honestly kind of getting sick of every doujin artist only putting out FGO stuff, though. I mean, sure, if the art is good I'll jerk off to anything, but even the Kantai craze was better than this.

when will Type-Moon make a good tomboy character?

>>21874343
Kaede a cute

>>21874359
I always thought I was one of the only ones who liked her.
Nice to see there's more of us.

nee san?

>>21873591
>It is one of the most obvious red flags
There is a difference between something that you feel may happen and something that is guaranteed will happen.
>incentives for character growth
I don't get how dying would benifit Shizuki character grow in anyway?

>>21874576
did you even read mahoyo?

>>21874289
>Guda is surprised to see her and asks what the fuck is going on.

>LKing claims the singularity you've entered is yet another where she exists but that she's already met with your version of her knights and been convinced to let you go on your way.

>Gawain told her the bunnysuit is apparently native formal garb as he's seen many men in tuxedos with women in them and she wanted to blend in so she had one made.

>>21874732
I did? Can you actually respond to my post or are we stopping there?

https://twitter.com/aka_llve/status/1161625027319455745

How do we solve the Japanese gambling addiction

Happy birthday Sacchin!

>>21874343
I want Ayako to shoot me in the forehead

>>21875994
Cutey

I've been putting off reading KnK for years now, but in short, is it better to watch the movies before reading the LNs, or read the LNs first? One of my friends was trying to suggest the movie route, but I'm not sure. For what it's worth, I've already read all of the (translated, because I'm eop) vns.

>>21876093
Since you're EOP like me, you're much better off watching the movies. The fan translation is bad. Here's stuff the translator said on the website for some proof (https://emptyboundaries.wordpress.com/2011/07/25/kara-no-kyokai-translations-2/))

>I’ve had a doozy of a time translating this, but it was very fun all the way. The first thing you’ll notice about it is that the translation is very…well, loose might be a word you could use. Obviously, English and Japanese are two very unrelated and different languages, and translating (or localizing, if you prefer) one to the other will necessarily require no small amount of rewriting. There is a time and place for stiff, strict, and exact translation, but written prose is—in my opinion—certainly not that place.

Basically, fan fiction. Instead of translating it as it is, he fluffs it up so a short sentence becomes a whole fucking paragraph.

>I know that a lot of in-universe terms re-occur in these other works, and that over the years, a lot of these terms have been translated—either by fans or in an official capacity. While I’m familiar with a number of renditions of these terms, I have, for one reason or another, ended up not using much of them. A lot of it has to do with a lot of them not really flying off the text so well, and so I regrettably had to change them. Please note, I don’t bear any ill will towards those other translators who have put their own stamp on Nasu’s creation, nor the fans who have painstakingly charted the details of this universe. It’s just that I thought that, for the purposes of Kara no Kyōkai‘s translation at least, some of these terms would not serve.

And this is squandering the author's intention, even with him being a hack, Kara no Kyoukai doesn't deserve this.

So, watch the movies. If you really want to read a subpar translation, then do it after watching them. And if you wanna go next level, learn Japanese (like I'm trying to do) and read the original.

>>21876322
Ah, ouch. Thanks anon, I'll go ahead and watch the movies.

>>21874872
That has to be a joke...
R-right, anon?

>>21877662
>nuTM characters
>having any sort of dignity
>not being turned into jokes and whored out in events

>>21874872
>>21877662
He is shitposting, you are right. I played the event this morning and not a single character went "wait, the lion king? what the fuck?" yet.

they literally just don't adress it, guda doesn't say shit, mashu doesn't say shit, nobody at chaldea says anything.

>>21876322
None of this is evidence of the translation being "bad." ALL translation is merely the translator's personal interpretation of the original text, and if you have a problem with this you need to learn Japanese and stop bitching. There is no such thing as "translating as it is." If there were, classic works of literature wouldn't be translated and re-translated dozens of times, with each offering a slightly different interpretation of the text. It is literally impossible for there to be a "definitive" translation of a work of literature.

>>21878740
Not using agreed upon translations for "technical" terms (Arcane vs Mystic, the Art vs Magecraft, Deterrent vs Counter, Consensus vs Common Sense) is minor at best.
Of course, that's the lesser of Coke's sins.
I recommend you take a look at the "Kara no Kyoukai translated" thread on BL, some people posted comparisons there.
He made some stuff up, changed stuff that didn't need changing, put his head canon on, chose different comparisons to the ones the narrator uses, etc.
Like if you just want to read KnK, do it.
It's not lile anyone will ever translate it anyway.
If you want Nasu mechanics autism, learn Japanese because Cokesakto won't be good enough for that

>>21878740
I've read it. That's why I'm saying its bad.

>learn Japanese and stop bitching
Wow, so I'm not allowed to criticize when I don't know Japanese? Fuck the translation community then. Who needs translation when we could just learn Japanese, am I right?

>There is no such thing as "translating as it is."

Oof. I never said that. A literal translation sucks. But there's enough liberty you can take to where it doesn't mean close to what the original text meant and is the translator's original sentence. That's what I mean by fan fiction. And I have to mention that I was just giving this guy EXACTLY what's written on the website by Coke himself. Coke ADMITS to doing this. It's much easier showing him this rather than going back through the text and find examples (some dude on Reddit already did that, go find the thread).

>classic works of literature wouldn't be translated and re-translated dozens of times, with each offering a slightly different interpretation of the text.

Completely irrelevant. Those are official. This is not. There is only one English FAN translation of KnK. Classic works have multiple OFFICIAL translations.

>It is literally impossible for there to be a "definitive" translation of a work of literature.

Straw man. Never said anything about definitive translations.

>>21878773
>I recommend you take a look at the "Kara no Kyoukai translated" thread on BL, some people posted comparisons there.
Holy fuck you weren't kidding. The fuck is is this shit?
https://forums.nrvnqsr.com/showthread.php/852-Kara-no-Kyokai-novels-fully-translated?s=d90393af1fa06d6f25c7e30fdf02118d&p=1096517&viewfull=1#post1096517

>>21878836
Exactly. There's no defending this lmao.

>>21878836
>mcjon
>trash talking anyone

the fucking irony

>>21878722
That's almost worse.

>>21879051
I'd say it's way worse, especially since there's no guarantee they'll adress it at a later point. the excuse will probably 1 sentence in her profile.

>>21874343
Many of the best girls already have tomboy traits.

>>21874576
>I don't get how dying would benifit Shizuki character grow in anyway?
I was obviously referring to Aoko.

>>21878940
Even a broken clock is right twice a day

>>21879108
What impact do you see that have on her, I'm curious.

>>21879162
Think about how she is in the future.

>>21879186
...can't you you just tell me what you think like a normal person? If you don't want to dicuss just say it bro.

>>21879213
Nigga Soujuurou is obviously going to die for good, Alice might too.
Deal with it. The fact is that the final result wouldn't add up unless this happened.

>>21879221
I really don't understand your animosity here, I'm not even arguing with you dude, I'm just asking you >>21879162 Like, I was trying to have a normal conversation with a, I assumed, normal human being. My bad, I guess.

>>21879241
Relax, I'm just not bothered to talk specifics because that has been done to death.
Just consider stuff in Tsuki and Melty on top of Mahoyo and you should see the picture.
This is the general consensus.

Soujuurou dying is obviously the catalyst that makes Aoko even give a shit about Shiki in the first place.

her grandfather even pretty much tells Soujuurou at the end of the game that "You're so fucked, I don't even have to do anything. now get out."

>>21879346
Again, I'm not dicussing whether they will die or not, I'm asking you how do you think Soujuurou's death would impact Aoko. And you wan't give an answer for reasons I can't fathom.

>>21879368
Call me a retard but I really don't see what makes Shiki and Soujuurou similar. Or did I misinterpret your sentence?

>>21879447
>I'm asking you how do you think Soujuurou's death would impact Aoko.
It's a very long answer.
Why did she become a wanderer?
Why did she feel a bond with Shiki?
How did her overall being change how it did from young to old?
The best fit to all these questions is that she lost those dear to her, and so she needed to search for greater meaning to life.
That is roughly how I see it.

>>21879491
Essentially she is a classic existentialist.
Most people who go down such a path do so from environmental factors.
An existentialist seeks to help others, this is how they feel they can make a difference.

>>21879491
Imagine if you had simply answered that the first time I asked you.
Anyway, I never thought of it that way but I guess it makes sense. I remember thinking that Aoko sounded somewhat depressed in MB even before playing Mahoyo.
And her whole "life is precious" and bondless wandering shtick in Tsuki makes sense if we look at it that way.
Thing is, even if Mahoyo was technically written first I kinda doubt Nasu would have planned that far ahead, but eh, who knows.

>>21879533
>Thing is, even if Mahoyo was technically written first I kinda doubt Nasu would have planned that far ahead, but eh, who knows.
Melty outright references stuff pertaining to Mahoyo.
He obviously had this scoped out.
While Nasu's long term keikaku has been getting bad recently, he still has some long term stuff playing out without contradictions.

>>21879551
>Melty outright references stuff pertaining to Mahoyo.
Yeah? As I said I played MB long before Mahoyo. Do you have any exemples, I'm interested?

>>21879065
Nasu himself said the events aren't actually canon:
>The writers in charge of events are free to write as they will and make characters reappear, but those are just “Ifs”, alternate developments where “this might have happened”. Although they may never be seen ever again for life in a certain person’s Chaldea, that might not be the case in another person’s Chaldea.
It's nebulous "it could have happened" as far as those players choose to, but he won't acknowledge them in the main story other than meme references. Look at the time temple, when the event shit appears is explicitely stated that you've exhausted your actual allies. The character quests are not events as they can be obtained in the rare prism shop, and the only exception it seems to be Dantes' Prison Tower event which is mostly a long character quest also obtainable and linked with the plot.

You can have random shit happen in events because Nasu doesn't consider them as part of the main timeline. Lion King appearing isn't weird at all knowing this.

>>21879726
I don't know how you can seriously believe his bullshit and then mention time temple in the same sentence.

>>21879726
Speaking of which, isn't it pretty weird for those who miss New Year 2019 event when they read LB4 and find out that neoChaldea can Rayshift again...? I mean they also Rayshift in Ooku, Case Files collab and GudaGuda Final Honnoji (if you clear LB, if not then it happened in the old Chaldea and you meet Big Vinci instead) but only New Year 2019 explained why they could do it again.

>>21879726
How much does Nasu even do for FGO? I don't think he gives a shit.

>>21879758
>Nasu takes care of the overall plot, and hands the material regarding what should be done in each chapter as well as the plotlines that should be covered to the other writers. After that, the writers will work on their Lostbelts and if Nasu thinks there’s no problems then he’ll leave it entirely to them. Once they’re done, he’ll go through their completed script and add plot details he thinks might be necessary for the overall story. He tries to make the words and actions of the characters consistent not just within the particular Lostbelt, but also in Part 2 as a whole.
>As a writer, he’ll write his own assigned scenarios and also looks at how things come together as a whole, edit the text for all scenarios, and manage the Servant character backgrounds. He’ll read the background for the Servants written by the other writers and tweak them if necessary to match with the feel of FGO. But event scenarios are an exception, there he lets the writers write what they excel at so outside of the plot itself he doesn’t make any changes, though there are exceptions.
>For example, a certain writer A-san is handling 20 Servants. But Servants that they aren’t in charge of also appear, so the quality of that part would drop no matter what. This is the point where Nasu, who’s in charge of all the Servants would help to make the writing better. Nasu also takes care of Mashu, Gordolf, and all the Chaldea team’s dialogue.
>If they were to break it down, for the main scenarios the text would be 30% Nasu, 70% other writers, while in events it would be 80% other writers, 20% Nasu. They have to write about 500 kb of text (250,000 letters) every month. The workload when it comes to text is pretty standard for professional work but there are other things they need to do too. As he said in the 3rd anniversary interview, he didn’t think he’d have to work this much. He wants a rest.
>Nasu: “But right now I have my reliable health buddy, the Nintendo Switch game “Fit Boxing” which I train on every month, so my body is fine. Everything can be solved with muscles”.
For both events and main story, the overall plots are usually Nasu's like Summer 2018 and Summer 2019. Last year Nasu & other writers went to Hawaii and Nasu also went to Las Vegas this time too, and sometimes event gameplay/grinding gimmick are also from Typemoon side (e.g. Summer 2018)
>Nasu came up with the idea that it would take place in Hawaii, and Type Moon’s Azanashi came up with the game-like loop elements, and they planned the structure of the event together. They next called in the writers and planned out the finer details, planned the storyline, conducted a check, and then commenced writing the scenario. Once the writing was done, Nasu did a final check before it was handed to the Delight Works planner.
>This year’s summer event is in Las Vegas, but unlike the previous trip where everyone went, this time he went alone. It’s hard to convey the atmosphere of Vegas to the writing team so he’s helping where he can with their writing.

>>21878940
Is mcjon a bad translator?

>>21879837
isnt he the guy who held HA hostage

HF II lost butterfly OST preview: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3HWadvJveUE&feature=youtu.be

>>21878816
>Who needs translation when we could just learn Japanese, am I right?
I completely agree lol, most translations are bad, even the best of them. This is exactly why I learned Japanese myself. Even Jay Rubin, the acclaimed translator of Murakami, says that "95% of the time, you are reading me, not Murakami." Translations are just their own thing.

>Completely irrelevant. Those are official. ... Classic works have multiple OFFICIAL translations.
"Official"? Is Homer's great^512th grandson out here licensing people to translate the Odyssey into English or something? Who decides what translation of the Bible is 'official'? This distinction is totally meaningless.

ALL OF THAT SAID, I looked at some of the stuff posted and it seems like this guy is a total hack, so I'm not gonna defend him. I just think there's a lot of dumb rhetoric surrounding translation in the West lately and I saw some of it in that post, but yeah. Good talk

>>21879726
It's just a lazy copout. "It's not canon!" just gives them the excuse to do the most bullshit fanservice pandering imaginable.

>>21880047
That's FGO's only reason to exist.

https://anime.elmelloi.com/story/
Rail Zeppelin 1/6 - A Train Whistle of Departure and the First Murder

>>21880590

>>21880597

>>21880604

>>21880597
I haven't read the novels but I kept getting the impression that the woman on the right becomes a villain.

New update http://www.typemoon.org/bbb/diary/

>>21880683
translate please?

>>21880698
basically
>FGO summer event is written by the whole team, Nasu is in charge of a single casino
>Nasu said thanks for all the staff's hard work for FGO Fes
>Nasu came up with Episode 0 because he wanted the people who didn't play the game to know Chaldea, Mashu and Roman.
>The production of Camelot anime is progressing well and has "movie" quality.

>>21880750
based Nasu always thinking of the customer first

>>21879969
>3:20
Sakura in Wonderland?

still no El Cid servant. that one doesn't count.

>>21880683
>2019/8/15 : Vegas! （Kinoko）■
>How are you all coping with the hot days? Please remember take good care of yourself by avoiding too much sun and drinking enough water. That said, the Mirror and the Egg just won't drop.

>FGO Summer event has started! I hope everyone will enjoy this event. This time, to make things easy, each writer is totally in charge of their own Servant Casinos.

>As for me, even though I had a terrible schedule this year and I was just only supposed to take overall supervision of the event.... I couldn't resist.. and took one Casino for myself. I mean, it's summer after all! And it's the beautiful etoile! You wouldn't believe she'd take that form too right? I really wanted to write it like that....

>BTW, about Gawain's Nightless Charisma, that is the Lion King's Gift. As a result of the events of that Singularity, it was engraved in his Spirit Origin.... is what I'd like to think happened. He didn't abandon his sins.

>(skipping the parts about the FGO Fes (mostly thanking the staff who worked hard on it) and the FGO Anime stuff. To summarize, the FGO Anime surprise was the episode 0 which was done as a way to let newcomers understand what had happened before the events of Babylonia. There's also talk about how the progress of Camelot is going on and how it's perfect as a movie etc etc.)

>>21881649
Someday, if Nasu never writes her route, I will spend my retirement days completing it myself. Fully consistent with all previous Tsukihime lore. And finally having her own simple, but happy ending.

>>21881706
In an epic twist, turns out her good ending is vetting bitten by Roa and killed by Shiki in an alley. All other endings are way, way worse for her.

>>21881797
Nah, I'm not Gen Urobuchi.

>>21881910
I didn't know you posted on /jp/ Nasu
Go work on the Remake, you're a godamn hack

>>21881922
Fake news. I'm Ryukishi07

>>21873792
>For FGO, he is the illustrator of Emiya Alter and Fuuma Kotarou. Now he is in charge of Shinjuku manga too.
I'm still baffled by that Emiya Alter artwork. Hopefully he makes him look more like Emiya in the manga.

>>21879726
Events are basically the fandiscs of FGO. Don't worry too much about it.

>>21882004
Can you please save this franchise with your golden magic, Ryu?

>>21881568
So the general plot is not even by him?

>>21882205
Considering he went to Las Vegas for this event i'd say the overall plot is still by Nasu. He mentioned that in the latest interview by Famitsu too.

>>21882004
I would rather have you writting than Sakurai or Higashide, so please save this franchise

>>21882493
Novelfags, what exactly is her deal, aside from being thirsty for Waver's meat?

>>21882615
That's all characters need to justify their existence in modern TM works anon

>>21882134
Some pretty neat ideas like kintsukuroi went into it and the usage of guns is an obvious allusion to Kerry. It's good on paper, just a little ridiculous looking in pracitce.

Why does Sherlock know everything about Chaldea, magic and all that shit?

>>21884537
Because he's an alien

>>21884566
It's pretty telling that I can't even tell if you're joking

>>21884278
I'm just bothered with how his face is entirely different from EMIYA and Shirou. He looks like a heavily charred corpse with his skin and the gold, and I wonder if that's intentional.

>>21884569
His outfit looks exactly like the Foreigner class card. There's definitely something suspicious about him.

>>21884537
literally never explained, they just go "because he's sherlock holmes"

>>21884566
isn't 100% shitposting, theres a fantheory that holmes is either a beast in disguise or a foreigner, due to his outfit sharing some similarities with the foreigner card design. In the end I'd say all the theories are unlikely though, because they're mostly fueled by the fact that there is no full explanation for what his fucking deal and origin are, which really isn't that rare in FGO.

>>21884537
>something something trismegistus
>surtr said holmes's mixed with other shit
>sion said he's not in her calculations (i might be wrong about this part, don't really remember)
>pepe said holmes didn't have human origin or something akin to that (holmes is not a fictional character in fate, you can read jekyll's or helena's backstory for this)
>also can freely travel between singularities
people speculate that holmes is hiding some important shit but he is still an ally of chaldea/panhistory, especially after what he said in lb4

>>21885091
>He looks like a heavily charred corpse with his skin
isn't that because his mana circuits burnt his skin more extremely than Archer's did?

>>21885210
I don't know about the reason behind it, I'm just stating that it legitimately resembles a heavily charred corpse from what I've seen on the internet. I think the golden streaks on corpses are cooked body fat or something.

Though I do often hear manaburn is the reason behind Emiya Alter's darker skin, and I do think it sounds reasonable, I'm not sure where the source of that information is.

>>21884170
You being correct pains me greatly

https://streamable.com/amp_player/1mkyj
Case Files ep 7 PV

there are not enough porn of ciel I wish Axia would draw her naked more

I tried playing the fsn vn I got from https://sukebei.nyaa.si/view/2725572 but I'm getting this error whenever I try to launch the exe. What should I do?

>>21887086
Did you set your language to Japanese?

>>21887185
Yes, but I'm still getting the same error.

>>21887086
Ultimate Edition is still a WIP, if that doesn't work use https://sukebei.nyaa.si/view/2386805

>>21855614

>>21887309
Why did 「 」 fall for Guda anyway?
She's so cute tho

>>21887319
Why do any of the servants?
I assume that Guda is just such a blank slate of a character that every servant unconsciously projects something they like onto them.

>>21887319
Guda is also basically the void personality wise so I guess Shiki could relate.

>>21882150
>>21882397
Sorry, I'm still trying to save mine.

>>21887333
But 「 」in particular is, well,「 」. She's omniscient, without needs or want and also "omnibored".
Lacking in want and being omniscient, why would she fall for anyone?

Is Primate Murder the most successful original Tsukihime character? He went from no design footnote to be an official mascot of Japan's most iconic and successful company, Sanrio.

>>21887378
She wouldn't, of course. But they needed a shiki to waifu, and since SHIKI is male and shiki is taken,「 」has to inexplicably fall for him.

>>21887399
Whoever decided to design him as a catbbit cosplaying Merlin hit gold.

>>21884537
not everything, he didn't know exactly what was the deal with Roman, Marisbury's death, the culprit of the incineration, etc.

Aka all the obvious plot related shit. He just infodump shit that isn't even useful to the main story and gets cockblocked by the real reveals.

>>21885210
The circuits are trace differently actually. You can see them when Shirou chants UBW. And Demiya's projection magecraft is inferior in rank.

>>21887399
The design is diamonds.
The idea that you have been cuddling with Primate Murder all along is kinda silly tho

>>21887319
Fanservice for self insert cucks
Nothing more
Nothing less

>>21887427
>>21887466
Are we defending PM being turned into a gacha mascott now?

>>21888138
He's cute and he climbed from being a footnote that didn't even warrant a design to a major face in Type Moon. There's no defending but praising the stroke of genius. Are you whining about Takeuchi changing King Arthur into a cute young girl in a armor to get cash?

>>21888164
gotta give to you, until the Arthur thing I was totally gonna fall for that bait

>>21887405
If you think about it, the situation shiki (assassin) finds herself in inside fgo is fucking 10/10 existential dread material, and I don't understand how nasu can't see it.

Goetia fucks with human history and suddenly you find yourself within a strange dream (singularity). a bunch of strangers show up and you help them do retarded bullshit, and before you know it you're for intents and purposes isekai'ed into the future, separated from anyone you give a shit about, and with no way of heading back. and even if you help stop the apocalypse TWICE there's no guarantee that the fucked up forces of the universe don't just decide to keep you around anyway. shit, you're probably an entirely separate existence already and will never get to life the timeline that was intended for you. You're not even fully human anymore, and assuming the throne takes a liking to you, or just creates another copy of you, you'll be cursed to do random shit until the multiverse burns out. It's not like the shiki in FGO became a servant after she died of old age at 90, she's barely an adult or emotionally stable.

>>21888164
I do agree that it's a good design, but I don't really think that it was some stroke of genius or anything, him being the PM or not doesn't really matter to 99% of the modern fanbase. People who had no idea who the PM was or their importance lore-wise wouldn't care, and oldfags would either get butthurt or just go, "Huh. That's cool, I guess" and move on. As you say, he was just pretty much a footnote and a little lore tidbit that people could speculate over, it isn't at all comparable to something like Arturia, a twist on a well known legend, and one which was so influential that it has spawned hundreds of clones.

nasu already setting up his porting arc into fgo project I see

>>21888473
I don't get it
But yeah last interview Nasu pretty much confirmed Arc is gonna be whored out for whale bux next year

>>21888482
neko arc is on the slot machine

>>21888519
Oh, I see it now. The resolution is so garbage

>>21887371
I laughed anon, thanks

>>21888179
How is it bait? Takeuchi made King Arthur a girl exclusively only for money and not for some artistic merit. You being a two face hypocrite about it doesn't change facts.

>>21888317
Maybe not, but him being a Beast does matter to the fanbase.

> and one which was so influential that it has spawned hundreds of clones.
And yet she's not an adopted Sanrio Mascot, so there you go, Saber is officially lesser.

>>21888519
Neco Arc was in a poster in last summer too. Means nothing.

>>21888890
>>/fgog/
>>/fgoag/

>>21888482
Archetype-Earth for (you) is a go
SSR Welfare Arcueid
How they will justify Ciel given that Dantes soulfucked Roa to death in the FGO timeline remains to be seen

>>21888183
It's the logical conclusion of her role in melty and extra. If everything was canon I imagine Shiki would get used to it at some point.

>>21888909
>SSR Welfare Arcueid
SR.

Would you agree with the sentiment that Nero is the worst written character in TM?

>>21889301
That would be Scat.

>>21889325
Scat is the most pointless but Nero is the most wanked

>>21889301
She's everything wrong with modern day Fateshit neatly summed up in one character.

>>21888473
Wow, a Neco-Arc cameo. It's literally nothing.

>>21887086
Thanks for the help guys, I managed to get >>21887269 working. Time to stop being a secondary.

>>21889301
Yes, and I say that as someone that wants to like her. It's a shame.

I haven't read the novels but I'm confused about Rail Zeppelin. Does Rita appear in it as a character or is she just referenced? I'm enjoying the show regardless but I don't get this part too much. Also the forest of Einnashe is part of the story or something?

>>21888909
The answer is that Roa really wasn't perma killed by Dantes and that was just headcanon being spread for power level shitposting by FGOfags.
It's left ambiguous.

>>21889700
Roa being killed has more implications than powerlevels. It's also the easiest way of explaining why the events of Tsukihime don't happen in Fate worlds. Remember that Ciel has super affinity for magical stuff anyway which is why Roa picked her as a host in the first place. The Church can just pick her up regardless.

>>21889613
She made the Rail Zepellin, and when people talk about a Mystic Eyes Collector, it's her.
However she doesn't hang out in the Rail Zepellin after Touko and Lugh wrecked her shit in the 80s.
Because Touko made them lose her Rita's patronage the employees hate her and have a kill on sigh policy regarding Touko.
The Forest proper is mentioned but they pass through another bloodsucking demonic forest tho.

>>21888909
Roa choosing Elesia as a host shows that she always had high potential for magic etc. It'll just come down to how Elesia got in touch with magecraft

>>21889721
No anon, the events of Tsuki not happening in Fate has waaaaay more widespread reasons than just Roa. All of the DAA are pretty drastically different, Nrvnqsr isn't working for Trhvm to hunt down Arc, vampires in general are much weaker... it's a bunch of different factors that converge in different events.
What we still don't know is what actually causes the different between Fateshit and Tsuki, and what event caused the death of Gransurg Blackmore in Fate. But this headcanon about Roa was only spread around for shitposting.

>>21889821
Thank you for clarifying anon, shame we're not getting any actual Rita or Einnashe appearances, that's a tad disappointing. I'm glad the whole Rail Zeppelin thing got expanded from Mahoyo though.

can someone explain how shirou's magic circuits are working in UBW?
at first he converted his nerves.
then later on opened up his natural circuits.
from this point on he uses his natural circuits but they are weak?
then when he faces gilgamesh is he still using those natural circuits, what does it mean by reform?

>>21890021
until he faced gil he wasn't using all of them

Rin!

>>21890113
I've never liked her personality

>>21890113
I like her anus personally

>>21890113
I've never liked her anuses personality

>>21890113
I always liked her fat ass personally

Tohsaka!

The Root in the GoB.

>>21890113
Kana Udea: The Pension plan.

If Tsukihime remake ever gets released, will it probably be PC only or can we also hope for console releases?

>>21889434
Skadi is probably the single biggest example of wank in all of TM.
If you include gameplay meta.

>>21890113
Probably the most mediocre character in that archetype.

>>21890269
>implying it'll be on PC at all
It'll be smartphone only.

>>21888317
Not that anon but it's not like Fou/Cath Palug will keep that form when he becomes Primate Murder though. In the end Fou is Cath Palug, he becomes Beast IV in Fate while being Primate Murder in Tsukihime world.

On the topic of Roa vs Dantes
>Chapter 9 (1): Tarantella finishes sucking Concetta dry just as Edmond arrives. Edmond realises that he’s a vampire. Tarantella says that he’s not a vampire, and reveals his true name as Mikhael Roa Balldamnjohn.
>Faria narrates about dead apostles and Roa, and says that he wasn’t able to tell Edmond about this because Roa put a curse on him. Faria also mentions that he left Edmond “the treasure of darkness”, he stole from the church, that would one day help Edmond out when he one day faces a non-human enemy that he would lose to- The treasure of Monte Cristo, which has the power to remake a person.
>Edmond laughs and says it doesn’t matter what Roa is, and that he, and not Roa, represents god’s will, and starts burning with black fire. He immediately understands how it works, and how it’s a weapon for him to burn his enemies, and quotes the bible saying “vengeance is mine”. Roa recognises the black fire as the Monte Cristo Mythology, a legend hidden in the mountain of Christ, the despair of those without god, the flames of hell and the void, power equal to that from the age of mythology, which forces a magic circuit and magic crest into the user.

>Chapter 9 (2): Edmond tells him to shut up and blasts him through the hotel’s wall. Roa runs, Edmond flies after him, and they fight in the air. Roa uses the moves of multiple reincarnations, including the curses of the seventh and the barriers of the fourth. Edmond just gets madder and calls upon the fire of vengeance to eat his soul and turn to a black flame, breaking the barrier imprisoning him, and he grabs and burns Roa while laughing, declaring that they’ll just have to see whose soul is incinerated first. Roa doesn’t believe that there’s such a thing as a fire that can burn souls, but Edmond says that this fire can. Roa can’t heal and Edmond asks him to just try and pretend to be the messiah in front of god again. Roa says “bakana bakana bakana bakana bakana bakanaaaa” and starts to say that he can just reincarnate even if his body is destroyed, but is cut off when Edmond laughs at him and spouts his victory lines from FGO.

>Chapter 10: By the time he realises it, Edmond is standing alone. Nothing is left of Roa but cinders. He feels something vanishing from his body, and believes that that’s the treasure of Monte Cristo, and realises that he was saved by Faria again. His body will never be enveloped in black flames again, not unless he’s someday reborn as something as inhuman as a vampire. He prays for Concetta to watch over his vengeance. He heads for the cathedral and is stopped by a guard, who demands to know who he is. He laughs and says that the Count of Monte Cristo has come for the cardinal.
This is just a summary, but could anyone that know JP clarify that if Roa was perma killed or not ? The audio of this Drama CD is still on bilibili and/or youtube as far as i remember.

>>21890269
Most certainly a focus on smart phones or console. Especially considering TM doesn't give a shit about eroge anymore

>>21890301
>>21890582
>Literally every Type Moon VN released on PC
>FSN getting re-release on PC
>Hurrr Type Moon abandoned the PC
You people are the most butthurt doom posters of all time.

can somebody clarify something for me?

the entire servant system doesn't exist in the tsukihime timeline due to whatever factors right? how the fuck did that timeline ever get past Sefar? am I supposed to believe servants were actually a thing until a certain point in time, or that the planet just didn't give a fuck and summoned an holy sword user regardless? Obviously the real answer is that all that bullshit wasn't even in nasu's mind back when he wrote tsukihime, but it's literally impossible for most of the TM typelines to exist in the state they're in without Sefar doing cleanup, so what the fuck?

>>21891059
Was whoever dealt with Sefar even a servant?

>>21891094
It doesn't say, but with the obvious implication being an excaliblast it's either a servant or they straight up pulled someone from the future and then presumably but them back.

>>21891056
Who said I'm butthurt about it? Visual novels are pretty much dead on the PC. There hasn't been a huge release insofar as PC exclusive VNs are concerned outside of moege, and many of the old establishing companies are going out of business. In addition to this, I very much doubt that Tsukihime R -- if it comes out at all -- will be a traditional visual novel. Therefore I think it likely that it won’t be a release targeted at the PC.

FSN is getting rereleased on the PC because, well, where else would they rerelease it? The Vita is dead. The PS4 and Switch are options, but this seems to be a lazy release regardless, it isn't getting HD assets at all, and sub-720p assets on the Switch or PS4 isn’t going to fly.

/tmg/ absolutely destroyed

>>21891269
I cannot believe such people genuinely exist

>>21891295
probably just reads fake spoilers and translation summaries from le reddit anyway, which is what 95% of fgog does.

>>21891056
The vn market is on a downwards spiral of ever diminishing sales.
Takeuchi made Nasu transform an mmorpg in a mobage, he will turn a pc game in a mobile one if he believes they will make more money.

GudaxArcureid
GudaxAEarth
GudaxAkiha
GudaxAoko
GudaxAlice
GudaxSatsuki

>[Ohys-Raws] Lord El-Melloi II-sei no Jikenbo Rail Zeppelin Grace Note - 07 (BS11 1280x720 x264 AAC).mp4

>>21892618
>Takeuchi made Nasu transform an mmorpg in a mobage
You would still be complaining if FGO was an MMO.

>>21892897
>GudaxSatsuki
https://youtu.be/izQsgE0L450

>>21893485
Only if it sucked.

>>21893485
A Type Moon MMO could be great, but it would be like 10-15 years too late.

>>21893485
If the story was still hot garbage like it is in FGO, then, of course, we would complain about that. But if the gameplay was good, then I would at least be able to bear through it because I would be having fun. FGO's gameplay is just as bad as its writing though. So no thanks.

>>21892897
>GudaxAkiha
Nasu confirmed this will probably never happen. Although chances are demi-servant Akiha will happen instead.

>>21892897
This violates human rights.

>>21855614
Can someone tell me why im getting this error? I got it from this torrent https://sukebei.nyaa.si/view/2725572..

>>21894957
See >>21887269

I dunno who changed the OP link to Ultimate Edition last thread but we should probably change it back considering we already got 2 people getting errors in a single thread.

>>21895134
Does that one include the h scenes and such?

>>21895219
It has a patch for the h scenes that you can put back in yeah.

>>21896108
Nice!