/jp/ - Otaku Culture

>>21755514
>Why isn't it more eldritch?
Literally half of the places in the picture you posted outright kill you or slowly torture you to death. What are you asking for, a pond made of mindflayers?

Friendless and horny otaku who want to fuck 2D girls. That's all.

>>21755514
>Gensokyo is a fairly normal and boring piece of rural land. Why isn't it more eldritch?
Dude are you for real? Gensokyo is a dangerous place especially for outsiders.
>Could you explain what it is that people see in Gensokyo that they fantasize about living there or even consider it their personal paradise?
Morons who haven't played the games and/or don't really know the lore.

>>21755523
>>21755567
I understand that it's dangerous. I meant that (with some exceptions) Gensokyo's geography, flora and fauna, architecture, etc. aren't that weird.

>>21755525
This isn't all of it. There is something special about Touhou.

>>21755643
I like Gensokyo for how idyllic it is. ZUN described it as Arcadia, and that’s what attracts me.

>>21755643
>aren't that weird
I don't think it's meant to. However
>geography
Gensokyo has a fair amount of odd places like Former Hell, Makai, etc.
>flora and fauna
Gensokyo's fauna is mostly youkai. They aren't really weird however because ZUN likes cute girls. So the supposedly spooky creatures aren't really that spooky but it appeals to some people.
>architecture
Gensokyo is supposed to be ancient Japan frozen in time so it's accurate.

>>21755683
How do you reconcile this with it being a deathtrap?

>>21755703
I choose to believe ZUN, not you. This solves the issue nicely.

>>21755683
>ZUN described it as Arcadia
for the natives, maybe

>>21755725
Not interested in your interpretation, ZUN’s own comments and the matching nice and comfy tone of his works are enough for me.

>>21755514
Use your imagination, make it the most exciting place in existence. Gensokyo (at least in my headcanon/perception) is the most beautiful and magical chunk of land that any human could wish to even just see. The most beautiful places on human-occupied earth rendered generic office desktop wallpapers in comparison (ironically, since they're already used for that). Why wouldn't Yukari have some eldritch pocket dimension just casually meshed with some random patch of forest? Some place that is an infinite lovecraftian expanse, that actually takes up no more room than a clearing for a birdfeeder would? Touhou is meant for you to carve out your own personal interpretations, understandings, perceptions, etc, and even those of people who's don't align with your's are enjoyed are experienced no differently than someone of one paticular Abrahamic religion might do the same with the beliefs, books, ideals, etc of another, because it all boils down to essentially being different versions or interpretations of the same base ideas.

>>21755732
Thank you for admitting you haven't read the print works.

>>21755737
>enjoyed are experienced no differently than someone of one paticular Abrahamic religion might do the same with the beliefs, books, ideals, etc of another, because it all boils down to essentially being different versions or interpretations of the same base ideas.

You mean, by slaughtering each other over each minute difference?

>>21755742
I have read every single one. They are really cute and comfy and fun!

>>21755755
Hopefully minus that kind of thing.

The place being so usual for something right out of the 1800s is what makes it interesting to me. Anyone making doujins would need some know-how of history rather than making up generic fantasy stuff. Anyone who bothered to accurately self-insert would also have to take that into account.

>>21755903
But that's not how Gensokyo worked until Reimu was born. People did kill eachother over each minute difference explicitly.

>>21755758
That's because they're from the perspectives of those on the top of the foodchain. It's been mentioned dozens of times that the regular humans are in constant danger of being devoured if they ever leave their village, which isn't exactly idyllic.

>>21755514
it's not meant to be exciting, you're meant to appreciate it by taking it easy and occasionally wondering about it's mysteries
it appeals to people who can find pleasure in small and normal things, festivals, music, drink, changing of the seasons, etc, not the kind that need increasingly grand, absurd, or horrific things to keep their interest.

>>21756458
Gensokyo is idyllic, ZUN said so. So what if there is some tiny level of danger? Your city is more dangerous. You get mugged or run over by a car unless you follow certain simple rules. Same for Gensokyo.

>>21755514
>>21755643
There’re 10-meter-tall mushrooms, fantastic animals, upside down floating castle and other weird stuff.
If you’re asking why humans live such casual rural lives, it’s because Gensokyo is not an empire but the last shelter for yokai. While they do need incidents and tales to keep humans’ fears, it’s also important to make humans satisfied with theirs unchanged lives.
Official Touhou is like a slice of life series. It’s understandable to be “Nah, nothing meta-changing really happens.”
With that being said, you can always find your own Gensokyo in doujin (in before secondarieeeees) . There’re tons of shounen setting doujins, Daidara Diary for example. And there’s the infamous zounose with its black humor. Personally, I think doujins from fantasy engineering works have the richest world building, they combines sci-fi and fantasy perfectly.

>>21756749
From SCoOW:
>Although it's not limited to the village, the humans of Gensokyo live in fear of the youkai, and are wary against the entry of non-human persons.
>The main difference from the Outside world would be the rampant presence of youkai. Within Gensokyo, things that the world of reality (our regular daily world) would consider lacking in common sense, or whose sense of presence has dwindled, are accepted as completely normal. The presence of youkai, their behaviour (kidnapping, attacking and eating humans, etc.), and their supernatural powers such as magic are all alive and well in everyday life
Here it is strongly implied that the chaos youkai wreak is a regular occurrence. Strange creatures that regularly terrorize and murder humans is a lot more cause for concern than accidents and basic crime.

>>21756458
It's been mentioned dozens of times that the regular humans are in constant danger of being devoured if they ever leave their village
Jesus Christ how horrifying.

>>21756458
>it's been mentioned dozens of times that the regular humans are in constant danger of being devoured if they ever leave their village
Jesus Christ how horrifying.

>>21756902
Good thing I care about ZUN's opinion, not about your fanwank.

Also, what you're quoting isn't written by ZUN anyway.

>>21756878
>I think doujins from fantasy engineering works have the richest world building, they combines sci-fi and fantasy perfectly.
Any recommendations? Do they use use the PC-98 lore?

>>21757672
>your fanwank
Come on.

>>21755514
this is the nerdiest shit i saw in years

>>21755514
I like Touhou because it's a blend of mundane rural hicks and crazy fantasy fringes.

>>21763039
Do we have a bot posting or something?