/jp/ - Otaku Culture

>>21625375
first for RTK is stupid

we're all gonna make big gains today

>>21625375
So why is 貝 taught to first graders? I've honestly never seen it used before, except as a radical, but in that case, there are many other simple Kanji that are more useful to teach so early.

>>21625375
でんせつのオカマ

>>21625428
The Japanese education system prioritises kanji representing simple concepts at first.

>>21625444
That actually makes perfect sense, actually. Thanks.
Also nice repeating numbers.

>>21625375
hourly reminder

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HDshJzXcQQc

a nig can learn japanese, chinese and many of other languages. what is your excuse?

なるたる

ぼくらの

ひぐらし

ＡＲＩＡ

無人島に何か一つだけ持っていけるとしたら、
何を持っていきたいですか？

>>21625490
To say he's "learned" Japanese is an insult to most of the dekinais in this thread, much less people who are good. He speaks pretty well but he's got a pretty N4.5-tier grasp on the language. Anyway, yeah his Chinese is pretty fuckin' flawless and his dabblings in other languages exceed mine.

My excuse is he's like 40 and I'm 22.

>21625232
some people asked for sfw recs and some people said they couldnt find any of the shit they picked from the chart
happened enough times that i got out my emojis

Watch JAV for motivation!

>>21625612
who needs that

wtf is this

>>21625639
Me

>>21625639
dunno what that means, but its components are douzheng (to fight) + gui (tortoise)

>>21625651
Are you Wall-E?

>>21625670
how do you go from 亀 to that

>>21625639
lottery, lot, raffle

ドイヒー

>鬮
It's obviously 2 kings fighting a dragon who is using 2 spears as weapons

>>21625690
>>21625670
it's obviously a teenage mutant ninja turtle

>>21625683
you go from 龜 to 亀 because 亀 is shinjitai

ALRIGHT, STOP SHITPOSTING FOR 2 SECONDS YOU FAGGOTS AND ANSWER ME:

What are you guys reading right now? Or watching/listening to, if you decided you're never going to make it.

>>21625716
>>21625713
Or what manga are you eating, if you're hungry.

>>21625713
Watching Barakamon, "reading" Pokemon X, listening to link related.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V8o96LjO2gA

im reading naruto

>>21625720
kys

>>21625549
khatzomoto is a nig and he learned japanese at age 21

にほんにきてる

けんきゅうしゃさんの

きじよんだ


Ｎ２にギリギリのてんすうでうかったっていってた

>>21625835
妹よ
我が問いに答えたまえ
陰毛はあるのか否か
さあー

>>21625945
It's saying to not have short legs. If you're a 15'7" giantess, manlets can't grope your ass.

>>21625713
めっちゃ面白いよ、これ

>>21625713
かうといいとおもう

>>21626014
what country isnt full of racists

>>21625720
>>21625713
古見さんはコミュ症です because I'm dumb, socially awkward and it's really good as entry-level manga!

>>21625713
A dictionary.

>>21626032
はい
私はN2

皆元気か?

>taking N3 this Sunday
>have only studied up to N4 at most (plus Tae Kim's guide)
>haven't studied a single thing of N3

H-how to pass?

>>21626181
Mnemonics for every Kanji you don't know in the N3 level, fake it til ya make it with grammar.
Why even bother taking the test if you're not doing N2 or higher and confident you'll pass?

>>21625713
ゼルダの伝説トワイライトプリンセス

We should be pushing the games aren't reading more than the manga isn't reading meme. At least with manga, you're constantly seeing words. In games, you can go a full hour or so without a single bit of text.

Yoga/Lucas' wife REVEALED
https://youtu.be/sFCD71XRpAQ?t=13m

Are VNs games?

Why are japanese learners so mean

Oh.

They were actually talking about skiing.

>>21626344
Because there are too many losers trying to learn this language, and these fags need to be set straight. Or else they will ruin everyone's image who knows the nihongo

How would I go about finding A Clockwork Ley-Line or G-senjou no Maou H-free?

>>21626422
nyaa.si

>>21626399
Pretty good explanation actually. I plan on learning to play the piano so that will round me out a bit more.

Luke (Truman) recommends using the dialogues in textbooks to start learning and you'll pick up grammar along the way
Lucas (Yoga) recommends sentence mining an entire grammar book (around 200-600 pages) to get 99.9% of the grammar down to start off your learning

>>21626506
どこが

ドイヒーなの？

>>21626614
私はブルームが嫌いです

>>21626944
>5'5 or over
for what purpose

>>21626704
シコ(る)

>>21627418
fancy paper
Unless you want to work in Japan, some require it (while others never heard of it at all and are happy when you can just speak and read)

kitsunekko is fucking dead again

>>21627561
a. it's not, at least not for me
b. there's a fucking reason why I uploaded a backup, use the version in the library

>>21627418
Fluency if you pass n1

>>21627693
what makes you think the majority of people who pass N1 are not just people studying to pass the test?

Its been about 2 months since I quit, how the fuck do I get back, should I start anki from square one I think I did like 3/4ths of VNcore and that's it.

Should I just consume media I like (vidya) this time around so I don't get burnt out?

>>21627699
I have no idea whether the majority of people taking it studied specifically for it or not. But I think you'd have to fuck up big time to get to N1 level and still suck at Japanese. At that point, even if you weren't fluent already, you could probably get there with like <= 6 months of AJATT or MIA.

>>21627743
Acquire autism. I'm probably week or 2 past the 365 mark, but Anki doesn't count higher.

>>21627779
凄い

せんもんがにほんごでＮ２なのはダメだけど

せんもんがほかでＮ２なのはｏｋだっていってた

>>21627865

>>21628017
thank you, good man

Is 空気を読む reading?

>>21627876
>I've heard of people going to school and passing N1 while still struggling to understand real Japanese media and conversation. And I know that anyone can lie on the internet, but it wouldn't surprise me if that was true
it would surprise me. N1 has reading passages straight from news articles and listening comprehension straight from news reports and other japanese business-type media.
maybe those people can't understand casual japanese since they only studied formal or something? but understanding NO japanese media even stuff like news but somehow passing N1 makes utterly no sense to me

>>21627783
>because they read a shitton of eroge and watched a bunch of RAW anime, they can easily ace the N1.
eroge and anime to pass N1? that sounds ridiculous. N1 is business japanese.
maybe for N2 that would be the case

The JLPT Japanese is very "clean" in a sense. So it could be that those people are talking about more everyday Japanese. Most likely they're also trying to humble themselves as well though. It's true that for N1 you don't have a chance if you don't actually understand what you're reading or listening to.

However I get why people will also say they don't feel fluent after N1. For a lot of those people speaking practice probably trails far behind everything else and getting to a truly comfortable level in speaking a L2 is so much extra effort it's unreal.

>>21627292
>the more you learn a language like japanese are you struck more by the similarities between us or the differences
similarities definitely
a lot of expressions are practically parallel to english which is evidence for similarities in how humans process the world in general, pretty cool

>>21628121
he's like 36

今週末のN2は勉強中なんだけど
幸いに、今まで読んだり、聞いたりしてきたinputのおかげで
この学習材（完全マスターAnkiデッキ）に出る文法と単語はもうほとんど分かってる！
８０％ぐらい！
楽勝～

もうほとんど分かってるものばっかりだ＊＊
（一回目も正しかったと思うけどこっちのほうが良く感情が伝わるかも）

>>21628192
一応リア充ですね
恋したことがあって
セックスの経験も豊富
友達は結構いるけど孤独が好きなので
実際に友達と遊びにいくのは2週間に１～２回ぐらい？
今週の金曜日に5人でロードトリッ
一応リア充ですね
恋したことがあって
セックスの経験も豊富
友達は結構いるけど孤独が好きなので
実際に友達と遊びにいくのは2週間に１～２回ぐらい？
今週の金曜日に6人でロードトリップの予定がある

>>21627564
You should probably take off the High School DxD subs, they're all in chinese.

>>21628081
No, it's common knowledge and basic intuition.

sol: real japanese
military: useless

>>21628672
Watch JAV and consume many other kinds of eroge!

塵　　　　　Ｘ
ゴミ　　　　Ｘ
トラッシュ　○

>>21628508
>he reads his own posts

>>21628378
>learning the readings in isolation is a waste of time, learn them through vocab
>keywords alone don't give you anything most of the time, but are often helpful in remembering and recognising new vocab
>don't bother learning to write kanji unless you really need to
Sounds spot on to me. Learn the kanji keywords so that you can remember vocab more easily, then just learn vocab.

>>21628935
cope

>>21628946
not reading yotsuba and watching mitsuboshi colors with japanese subs on animelon/daiweeb instead

>>21629090
depends on what u read doesnt it

then you've earned the right to post on r/learnjapanese

>>21629140
what if u memorise 20k words while you're reading

what if you learn by heart every J-E and J-J dictionnary before reading

>>21629213
[insert pic of guy that learned the entire french-english dictionary by heart for scrabble or some shit]

>>21628726
who is this semen demon?

he's quizzing

>>21629567
A list that contains all the stuff the Anki cards do - pronunciation, definition, examples.

>>21629573
Thanks.

>>21629522
Name of that extension?

>>21628584
and a dude

i was stressing out about the repeated usage of でも in a sentence for like 1 or 2 minutes before realizing it was listing things.

>>21629682
That better than what I do, which is to just be happy with getting the readings

>>21629713
yep and 見るto see or look at and 観る more like to observe/watch with more intent

>>21629485
get a fucking time logging app bro
aim for 5 minutes of input from something easy-ish, and soon you'll be looking for stuff to do just to rack up more time
that's what happened to me, i went from getting 30 minutes to an hour of input most days, to getting like 4 to 6 hours a day

I've kept this under wraps until now but I can't take it anymore, I have to vent because yet again I encountered this phenomenon in the wild, and as usual, the poor sockcacker it was directed at expressed joy and relief at the prospect.

It seriously crustles my buttress when Japanese "teachers" tell you to not concern yourself with or even altogether forget rare words or obscure variant kanji because you'll never need them and even most native speakers wouldn't understand if you used them. So fucking what if you'll never need them, and so fucking what if they'll cause confusion? Are you a happy little shitter? Do you want to be a happy little shitter? And fuck you for not being a happy little shitter, huh? Fuck, I'm dugged.

I swear, if I see one more rando go "bubble bubble, with rares you don't need to trubble :D" and the directee takes it all bubbling, a whole new level of buttflustering will be entered.
>>21629701
>What is your daily REEE /djt/?
Your post. If you actually complain about getting smarter, you may wish to acquire brain damage.

lol

>>21629739
what if djt is really just a bunch of irrelevant noobs coping and trying to force their noob beliefs

>>21629784
I'm not a noob, I'm a beginner which eliminates that possibility

>>21629788
He worked for the FBI. In the case of loli ban, you guys are getting fucked for sure.

>>21629734
Do you have any examples? My take is that "rare" kanji variants like 之, 其れ, 成る, and 又 still get used often enough to warrant learning them. I have seen every one of these in the wild numerous times. And if you can read the kanji variant then you can read the kana variant too, so there's value in learning both

>watch movies in japanese after 2.5 years of reps
>fail to understand 1-3% that completely changes movie

So what point did you move on from subs completely? Not sure if I want to start watching with subs again I feel like it'll be better for being entertained but worse for improving my nihongo

>>21629806
It is worth learning *everything*, but to be fair, 之 and 其れ are rarely seen outside 漢文 and 漢文訓読体.

>>21629907
i messed up and realized that it's 小女、not 少女. Maybe I should stop trying to comment on this until I've learned more Japanese. I'm going to learn this word just to spite your teachers though.

>>21629829


Maybe closer to 90%, but generally I can understand the whole movie but then there'll be one or two conversations about extremely important detail that I'll miss. Never seem to have this problem with manga though.

I wonder sometimes that I've traded my enjoyment of anime for improving my Japanese and unsure if it was worth it.

>>21629946
>Never seem to have this problem with manga though.
Maybe you just need to practice listening more until your listening ability catches up to your reading

>>21629950
no

wish there was a better version of core 10k i hate mining so much

>>21629952
that's my line wtf

>>21629734
japanese classes are usually really bad
i was lucky that my teacher was just awesome as a person, and i still stay in contact with her to this day
and she was really strict so i got the basics drilled in
but outside of that it’s definitely superior to just get your own input and learn what the fuckkk you want

>>21629963
i mine but it feels pointless to me. the words don't have more meaning to me than those i would find in a frequency list. if i were sentence mining then mining would make sense to me. but i'm using vocab cards.

>>21629935
Not to mention it could cause more confusion and that's food for thought.

>>21629979
I thought the point of mining is to find whole sentences, with the idea being that you get a more accurate and memorable sense for how words are actually used in context

but sometimes, when I stumble on some word I want to learn but I'm feeling to lazy to make a new card for it, i'll just pull that card straight from a core 10k deck

but there's a ton of words that aren't even in 10k so sometimes it's unavoidable

>>21629925
Can you remember how to handwrite all of those or do you just focus on recognition?

>>21630077
I see.
I am interested, what would you say is the main utility of learning the 音読み independently of vocabulary? And what about kanji like 生 with like 8 different readings?

>>21629979
if you do your first set of reps within a few hours of when you mined the word, then you should still remember the context
at least i do
but yeah having the original sentence at least on the back is a lot better for context and retention

>>21628121
He was 21 in 2004
So he was born in 1983

>>21630201
>The human mind generally acquires new information
no it doesn't you stupid piece of shit i haven't learned a single thing since i was 2 years old

>>21630226
made me laugh

>>21630226
you learned how to be an annoying troll

リョコウバト

どうして

ぜつめつしてしまったの

>>21630170
That guy's a fucking Yoomer

>learning one language instead of two at the same time
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aBdFhCQ-PpI

>>21630440
how do you write kanji with that
hmm i’ve thought i’d getting one but it seems like a waste of money if i already have a mono dic on my phone...

>>21630661
>he doesn't watch all his anime with spanish subs

this isn’t even an エロ漫画

>>21630674
Spanish is my native language. If I wanted to practice another language through subs, it'd be Russian or Korean.

big vocab gain

i love the dopamine hit of seeing a recently learned word again in a new context and knowing it
i dont want to get so good at japanese that i never get that feeling anymore

>>21630673
Touchscreen + stylus. It works very well.

Trust me, one of these things is probably the best study investment you can make. He dictionary on your is acceptable, I'm sure, but the extra materials on a good 電子辞書: thesaurus, multiple encyclopedias, katakana dictionaries, specialised-terminology dictionaries, 漢字源, literary Japanese references... all of which you can search simultaneously in a literal second. You can also jump around freely by highlighting terms and researching.

I can't tell you just how much your study efficiency will increase with one.

>>21630674
based

How do you say "hello world" in japanese?

>>21629619
this language is so fucking easy

>>21630836
That feeling really makes studying less miserable.

>>21630873
世界さん、ニーハオ

>>21630676
１１４５１４１９１９８１０

>>21629882
その例での「よう」は、「様(よう/さま)＝様子、様態(状況、状態)」の意味だから、
この「よう」を省略したとしても、基本的に意味は変わらない。

「よう」を付けるのは、丁寧(ていねい)な言葉遣いとして使うだけでなく、
その状態の変化を重要視＝わざと「強調」する意味で使う事も多いよ。

ひまだよ

あそびしようよ

>>21629669
lol, no, not at all. it has barely half as many entries, fewer glosses, and the layout is a complete mess

the whole idea of using j-j dictionaries instead of e-j not to "break immersion" is fucking stupid and forcing yourself to use j-j because you think it'll make you better is pointless and won't lead anywhere. The only reason to use j-j is if you're Japanese is already really good and you can read them unhindered, and talking about "immersion" at that point is just pathetic.

>>21631095
you're right less is more lol

>>21630440
Money is not required to learn Japanese. Cannot anon download a dictionary on their computer for $0.00. I do not understand.

>>21631095
I first look up the word in jisho and then in j-j dic, if I understand j-j definition I use that if not I use english definition.
Isn't what everyone does when starting to mine?

>>21631120
Of course. There are plenty of free dictionaries available; there's one on the tablet I'm typing on now, though I almost never use it.

The advantage of a dedicated electronic dictionary is that you can search through literally *dozens* of references almost instantly and jump between them.

It also searches as you type, so it's even easier to find what you seek. You also get definitions and usage examples from multiple sources, making it easier to grasp finer distinctions.

If you aren't so great with readings yet, you can highlight the text and have it read to you.

Here is what comes up when you punch in おうの, the first three mora of the word 懊悩, for example.

>>21631143
I have no idea why that got labelled a spoiler image. It's a pic of my dictionary's screen.

>>21631095
you sound retarded
basic math says more japanese will get you better at japanese faster

>>21631160
if ur so shit at japanese that u struggle to read j-j then ur taking valuable time away from your more comprehensible input with your constant longer interruptions which give u a hazier understanding of the word u are trying to figure out
if u dont struggle to read j-j then ull do it because it tells u more and not because u think its more input lol

so i have this huge anki deck collection subs2srs/morphman with around 2.5gb of data.

i will have a few hours nothing to do at work in the next months. what is the smartest way to synchronize work computer anki with my own computer.

export and use an usb stick or really use the synchronize feature with such large files? i must say i dont have a fast upload at home

>>21631246
delete the deck and never use subs2srs again

>>21631224
>but it IS more input
if u can read ur compelling eroge significantly faster than ur j-j dic then not doing the j-j dic gives u more input than interrupting it to struggle through something ur even worse at
there is a line between when j-j is worth using 100% of the time and when it isnt and the spectrum of how ez it is doesnt matter
ur really aggressive for someone who cant follow somethin so obvious lol

>>21631246
Very few use cases for uploading I feel. If you can transfer files yourself, it's superior.

>>21631252
Care to elaborate, or is this another "hurrdurr ankidrone" post?

>>21631265
>if u can read ur compelling eroge significantly faster than ur j-j dic
how would this even make sense
unless you're as autistic as matt and have 5 paragraphs for one dictionary entry
i can't imagine anyone who can read 100's of lines of eroge but can't read this
>the spectrum of how ez it is doesnt matter
it obviously does..........what are you even saying

>>21631145
What did you use before owning one, anon? You make it out to be most useful to those who choose not to, or cannot access a computer regularly.

>>21631323
>how would this even make sense
when ur in beginner town readin moege that has a far smaller set of common vocab than ur dic
i mean if u have to look up a word in the dic entry cuz u dont know it either obviously u could just be reading 10 more lines of the moege in that time and those lines would prob make a bigger impact on u because they are closer to ur level
>it obviously does
there are 2 options for forcin urself to use a j-j dic
do it or dont
along the spectrum of how ez a j-j dic is all that matters is when thats not a bad idea anymore

Why is 腕時計 pronounced うでどけい and not うでとけい?
I see this a lot with compound words, where one syllable gets softened.
With 水着 it's the same.

>>21631371
bc japanese is like that?
idk how you expect this to be answered lol it's just another pattern in the language you have to get used to seeing

Can some kind anon help me wrap my head around this grammar? I understand transitive and intransitive verbs, but I'm getting confused with the introduction of passive form. I tried making some sentences up to see if I get it, but can someone help correct my mistakes?

ACTIVE
Transitive
>denki wa/ga kowashita = the light broke something (weird sentence, but just an example)
>ore wa/ga denki wo kowashita = I broke the light
Intransitive
>denki wa/ga kowareta = the light broke (somehow)

PASSIVE
Transitive
>denki wa/ga kowasareta = the light has been broken (by someone)
>ore wa/ga denki wo kowasareta = I have broken the light
Intransitive
>denki wa/ga kowarerareu = the light has broken (somehow)

>>21631339
The first one I bought was, shit, twelve years ago. I'd purchased it to help with a large translation job I was working on.

To be honest, I don't really remember what I used before its purchase, but I'm reasonably sure I just muddled by with whatever web resources were available at that time.

I really cannot underestimate its utility. I taught at a Japanese university for a while, and all my serious students had one.

>>21631311
The quizmaster sharex method is better for both word cards and sentence cards
if you need a searchable archive use notepad++ to search in subtitle files

>>21631371
Read this:

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rendaku

The tl;dr version is that while linguists have discovered certain laws about when the voicing phenomenon does *not* occur, there is no way to predict when it does.

With practice, though, you'll start to get a feel for it. I get it right in new, unfamiliar compounds about 98% of the time now.

>>21630659
危険日かな？

>>21631378
Most operating systems support Japanese keyboard input. It's difficult to tell if you are missing button presses accidentally or intentionally.

>>21631378
>actually learning grammar
lmao just read

I never looked at any piece of English grammar and I learned the grammar either way.
The English classes in school introduced grammar to me, but it was just confusing to me.

There's no point in learning grammar, it will just make you slower, since you have to think of the grammar rules every time you try to form a sentence in your head. If you "learn" grammar just through exposure to the language it will come naturally.

>>21631451
>If you "learn" grammar just through exposure to the language it will come naturally.
you still have to look things up though
english grammar didn't "just come naturally" for you, even if you read a lot in english you still had to look up what unknown parts of a sentence meant so you could comprehend properly
that's learning grammar, it's just doing it within context and in a non-standardized way (which i agree with doing. but people need to stop saying "they didn't learn grammar" when they did)

>>21631480
>you still have to look things up though
depends. for example, I never had to look up what the different particles mean in Japanese, you can figure out for what they're used just by seeing how they're used in a text.

>>21631451
>There's no point in learning grammar, it will just make you slower, since you have to think of the grammar rules every time you try to form a sentence in your head.
This is singlehandedly the dumbest series of words a human being has managed to string together in the history of man.

Anki isn't playing audio when I go to the front side of cards (back side works), but the audio will play when I go to edit the card.
Is there a fix for this?

>>21631489
>you can figure out for what they're used just by seeing how they're used in a text.
uh this only applies for some of them...
for others the usages can be ambiguous and without checking you run the risk of memorizing incorrect usages and meanings which is very possible to do

>>21631378
see this anon:
>>21631444

I don't believe like others, that no time at all should be spent reading up on grammar, but it's absolutely not worth trying to memorise. My advice: Gloss over grammar once and spend the rest of the time actually trying to read and it should come naturally.

>>21631499
good argument

>>21631501
disregard this i just misunderstood the cards

Is 君死ニタマフ事ナカレ a good first anime to read?

>>21631503
true and then you come across a situation where it's used differently and you subconsciously think "huh that doesn't make sense, I guess it means this in this case."
Like when do you use "if" and "when" in English is very different as well and "if" and "when" don't always mean the same thing, but I still know when to use what even though I didn't learn it explicitly.

>>21631504
Yeah, you should only learn grammar when you're close to fluent.

>>21631514
no idea what that is

>>21631523
It's a manga written by Yoko Taro (director of Nier+Drakengard games). It's about child soldiers of some sort...

>>21631547
jap subtitles

>>21631547
I figure out the Kanji readings and look up words I don't know. Then I try to make sense of the sentences/bubbles...

>>21631554
It's more a glancing over the subtitles, you don't stop and read, do you?

*fips thru japanese dictionary* i'm inputting

>>21631642
*watches anime*
*reads manga*
*does any activity other than reading visual novels*
I'm not inputting according to djt

>>21630440
>>21630856
Based. Which one would you recommend?

https://www.amazon.co.jp/%E3%82%B7%E3%83%A3%E3%83%BC%E3%83%97-%E3%82%AB%E3%83%A9%E3%83%BC%E9%9B%BB%E5%AD%90%E8%BE%9E%E6%9B%B8-%E9%AB%98%E6%A0%A1%E7%94%9F%E3%83%A2%E3%83%87%E3%83%AB-2019%E5%B9%B4%E6%98%A5%E3%83%A2%E3%83%87%E3%83%AB-PW-SH6-B/dp/B07MXDDBWN/ref=sr_1_5?__mk_ja_JP=%E3%82%AB%E3%82%BF%E3%82%AB%E3%83%8A&keywords=%E9%9B%BB%E5%AD%90%E8%BE%9E%E6%9B%B8+sharp&qid=1562155558&s=gateway&sr=8-5

or

https://www.amazon.co.jp/%E3%82%B7%E3%83%A3%E3%83%BC%E3%83%97-%E3%82%AB%E3%83%A9%E3%83%BC%E9%9B%BB%E5%AD%90%E8%BE%9E%E6%9B%B8-%E5%A4%A7%E5%AD%A6%E7%94%9F%E3%83%BB%E3%83%93%E3%82%B8%E3%83%8D%E3%82%B9%E3%83%A2%E3%83%87%E3%83%AB-2019%E5%B9%B4%E6%98%A5%E3%83%A2%E3%83%87%E3%83%AB-PW-SB6-K/dp/B07MX3Z8LF/ref=sr_1_10?__mk_ja_JP=%E3%82%AB%E3%82%BF%E3%82%AB%E3%83%8A&keywords=%E9%9B%BB%E5%AD%90%E8%BE%9E%E6%9B%B8+sharp&qid=1562155558&s=gateway&sr=8-10

>>21631697
VNs are the worst medium to be honest.
Low effort products and you need to read for like 3h for the plot to progress.
There's so much more work put into creating Manga and Anime, it's also much more enjoyable.

>>21631707
They're just difficult enough that nobody dismisses them, yet so much easier than reading an actual novel that VNbabies can LARP that they know Japanese

>>21631707
vns are great because they use the same words over and over. you get your srs reps right there no extra effort.
also character voice a lot of lines so you get practice listening and reading.
i feel you about the pacing, but if you're a slow reader can't you just read a shorter vn?

>>21631729
You could just read anime with subtitles and it would 10 times better than any VN.

>>21631734
Show me an anime that's better than Rance, I'll wait

>>21631734
yeah ultimately you should do something you're interested it. it's obvious you aren't interested in VNs but other people are so...

>>21631739
NGE

>>21631747
Because watching a 15 year old virgin cry about a robot is so much better than raping every girl in the country you're conquering

>>21629140
What if you just do 20 sentences per day from a good premade grammar deck (preferably with audio) for 50 days straight, and just watched TV once you done with the 20 sentences for that day? You'd be in alignment with MIA then too (1,000 basic grammar/vocab sentences).

flashcards are cringe

>>21630440
I personally don't think that is worth it, it cost way to much compared to qolibri which is free. Although if a person travels a lot and has lots of money to throw away then that could be worth it

>>21629670
Woah who knew.

>>21631705
Neither.

The one that is by far the best for students of Japanese is the 生活・教養 type.

I know, the 大学生・ビジネス or 高校生 type might sound appropriate, but trust me: the contents of the 生活・教養 model make it the one you want.

You don't even have to spend the money on the latest model; just be sure to get the 生活・教養 edition. The others have shitloads of English contents for Japanese people while the 生活・教養 type is much heavier on actual Japanese references.

For the record, I looked into the Casios which seem to dominate the market, and found them inferior in many ways, not to mention that they are far more expensive.

>>21631840
I got casio for 60$ used.Mostly use only one dictionary . or just mully seqrch keywords to understand idioms

>>21631160
you should write a study guide, "the autist's approach to language learning"

I'm currently 18 and I'm in high school, I'm interested in learning how to read/write in japanese (not necessarily talk): should I start rn or should I wait when I'll be in university/have a job? How many hours a day are recommended to learn it in the most efficient way?

>>21631978
definitely don't try it until you're about 30 and have a job. good luck. see you in 12 years.

>>21631978
you didn't start yet and you're already a dekinai

100 pages of manga a day
what do you think?

I did a JMDict vs GG5 quality comparison based on 10 random words generated through this website: https://tango-gacha.com/
No idea what the source is (but it's not jmdict or GG5) and it's pretty much all nouns (including plenty of proper nouns, which I skipped)

The GG5 assessment is based on the same file everybody here has pirated I would assume (no KOD stuff).

My quality assessment is a little random but whatever, take it with a pinch of salt. The better entry gets a score of 1 (100%), the worse entry gets a smaller score in relation to how good it is compared to the other entry.

ドライカレー
jmdict notes it's ドライ・カレー (like daijisen), but that much is obvious
it has two senses where gg5 only has 1
Jmdict: 1
GG5: 0.5

綿毛
jmdict has two readings, わたげ and めんもう (attested by Daijirin), gg5 only one

>>21632000
Yes, but you also should watch JAV for listening practice

So thats around 3 pages of Ln. good startbit will only take you around 20 years to get good

>>21630676
You can learn dozens of Kanji every day by turning furigana off

>>21632000
just start reading every day u dont need a quota

>>21631969
It isn't bad, I just suggest the Sharp models over the Casios.

wtf is gg5

>>21632016
'idk if youvare a third worlder paying full price for either of them.is retarded

>>21632011
dude i was gonna make that joke earlier but forgot to

>>21632021
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kenkyusha%27s_New_Japanese-English_Dictionary

>>21632024
It helped me immensely to reach not just N1, but 漢検準一級.

>>21632021
most comprehensive Japanese-English dictionary around with 230,000 entries (vs Jmdict's 184,000) heavily favored by professional translators.
The big boon is that it's example 250K example sentences are really good, unlike the horrible Tanaka corpus which most Jmdict-based apps use

>>21631978
>https://itazuraneko.neocities.org/
RTK is gay, and get into reading as soon as possible

>>21632036
why would you do such a worthless and stupid thing

>>21632039
oh. who gives a shit just use jmdict

>>21632046
What the stupid thing?

>>21632036
doesn't this make you far superior to quizmaster

>>21632047
I think lots of people here use GG5 but yeah that's pretty much the message, it's probably not really worth the bother

>>21632053
>漢検

>>21632057
didn't quizmaster say he never did any of the JLPT test

>>21632060
>I think lots of people here use GG5

>>21632065
yea but he's striving for kanken level 2 whereas this guy has mastered pre 1

jisho.org is usually good enough and it has lots of expressions which is really really helpful.
if it gives an unsatisfactory result then japanese dictionaries can be consulted for clarity and elaboration

>>21632052
they do show readings for their main entries, but not for their subentries/compound entries

>>21632000
50 pages of manga 4 episodes of anime rest of the time into vns

Learning nihongo to have a cute pro-wrestler gf ! (also how much of this do you understand without subtitles ?)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KJN1Bzapb0E

>>21632036
Oh.

I originally took the test as a simple test of ability. Now, it a matter of pride, I guess.

I have 準一級, just a little bit more.

できない感情が付きまとっている。不変なできないだ。

>>21632119
マジ来てないし、しばらく付きまとわれたほうがいいかもね　 (∈^▽ﾟ)キラッ

>>21632096
there is a lot of nuance in japanese that gets lost on english equivalents.
when i look something up and it just says something like thought even though i already know a bunch of words that are rendered that way in english (https://jisho.org/search/thought)) i take it to the japanese dictionary.
i think extended reading will teach you that nuance anyways, but i like to know what i'm reading at the very moment

>>21632130
local thread celeb

>>21632141
you meant "local thread retard" right ?

>>21632144
yes, I typo'd

>>21631095
the immersion muppets would be hella more convincing if they didn't spend half their time in this and other 4chan threads, reading and writing in English

quiz is the best at japanese in this thread and i don't think he started putting japanese definitions on his cards until 18-24 months into learning.

>>21632182
I'm in this thread so that's not likely

>everybody is the same
Just fucking do something in Japanese

>>21632193
you're probably not better than him, but if you are, you're not a regular here. so it doesn't matter.

>>21632197
true, I'm not a regular. on the other hand, since quizmaster apparently is a regular here he's probably not better than me

>>21632060
thats a weird assumption

>>21632130
WHAT the fuck is Quizmaster?

>>21632209
well i'm not a regular

https://youtu.be/gcLxnUDja1M
素晴らしきインタアネツト!!

>>21632227
he's a master at quizz even if he lost all the time

>>21632274
quiz has only lost to two people. jamal fan, who has been learning for a year longer, has a 200 IQ with photographic memory, and reads kanji dictionaries for fun.
and mattvsjapan, who has been studying for 10 years.

quiz is better than anyone who has been studying for the same time as him.

>>21632325
quizz cant write kanji so yeah...

>>21632325
he's still lost so he should'nt call himself a "Quizmaster"

>>21632332
yea he can. he's studying for kanken level 2 right now. but his comprehension is supreme and that's what matters.

Literally illiterate

if he's a quizmaster then i am a lifemaster lol

where can I do the quizz?

the clover icon on firefox tabs aren't updating properly. am i using a borked version of 4chan x?

>>21632359
on the trannycord

>>21632325
>jamal fan, who has been learning for a year longer
how long has quizmaster studied

>>21632379
2 years

>tfw no master

>>21632336
Image having an ankidroning kraut for an idol .

The more time I spend in the real world communicating with real humans, the more I realize how fucked DJT is
Most people who set out to learn an L2 don't get anywhere significant in 5, 6, 7 years
If you've been learning even that long and can communicate without struggling, read stuff etc, real people are genuinely impressed
But DJT is a toxic environment full of competitive little boys using their Japanese learning as some kind of pissing contest,
who like to act as if there's something wrong with you if your Japanese isn't perfect 1 year into studying.
And super autists like QM (no offense) and some of the other braggarts have convinced you all that that's somehow normal or expected
It isn't.

>>21632517
wtf if I learned english in three years and german in four years why couldn't I learn japanese in three-five years ? If you're not good after more than five years you're just bad, that's all

>>21632517
Your normie friends are losers. We want to reach near perfection the fastest and the most efficient way possible.
Now go kys

>>21632527
>wtf if I learned english in three years and german in four years why couldn't I learn japanese in three-five years
because those two languages are way easier than japanese

>>21631755
>raping every girl in the country you're conquering
if this is a fantasy of yours get some fucking help psycho

>>21632541
This is for english native speaker only, it's not relevant for me even if I can understand that it's harder, every language acquisition takes time but never 5-10 years

>>21632550
>This is for english native speaker only
obviously but the numbers will look similar for speakers of languages which are closely related.

>>21632550
>but never 5-10 years
your native language took at least 10 years idiot

>>21632549
most men have a biological urge to rape we just don't do it because of societal shaming.

>>21632534
>all japanese people are losers and i'm better than them even though i dedicate every day to learning their language
>i'm autistic and proud, bow to my perfection
lol you're dumb and have problems

>>21632585
>most men have a biological urge to rape
is it the same as the biological urge i have to shit in your mouth right now

>>21631120
>Money is not required to learn Japanese.
That's because people spend thousands of dollars buying, scanning/ripping and uploading content so fags like you can grab stuff without a second thought as to how the piracy ecosystem works.

>>21632517
This, although it should be noted Japanese is in fact one of those languages that are "impossible" to get to native level in if you didn't learn it as a child. It violates several linguistic universals more than any other language known, and does so in a way that intuitively makes sense to native speakers but is in some ways incomprehensible to non-natives. It's the same to varying degrees with the majority of the non-Indo-European languages of Eurasia, including but not limited to Basque, Burushaski, Korean, Finnish, Hungarian, etc. They are languages that treat complex concepts in a "primitive" and "childlike" manner (not my words, but I can't think of better terms) and have regular grammar but it's been complicated by countless illogical functions. Japanese is the ultimate king of this, containing countless ideophones used just like other vocabulary and grammatical mergers that obscure the origins of conceptual grammar. The same applies to all the other languages listed and many more, but in Japanese it's extreme to the point where for someone whose brain was not wired for such things when it was still elastic is impossible to adjust to naturally. This is why in the past Europeans saw the Japanese, Mongols, Finns, etc. as "primitive" people with "stunted intellect", as the languages "sound primitive" and the grammar AT FIRST GLANCE is simple because it's mostly regular. It's still the subconscious gut feeling for Indo-European speakers, that's why you will never fully grow used to the way non-Indo-European languages work if you grew up speaking an Indo-European language. That's not to say Indo-Europeans are racist by default, but the languages are to a much wider extent than the non-Indo-European languages of Eurasia. They're more "logical" and "thought-based" (again not my words originally), whereas the non-Indo-European ones are more "feeling" and "function-based".

>>21632602
>i want to rape women, its normal
>why are you being mean to me

>>21632611
didnt read but heres my response

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L5dhhdhO4Yw

>>21632583
kys you're fucking retarded if it took you so long to learn your native language, you should know it perfectly around 8 yo and you don't start to really learn your native language before 3 yo (you only learn detached words before like an anki user) so that would take five years to master it

>>21632604
That guy was a faggot but even if you don't have those resources you can learn jap with free stuff even if it's harder.

>>21632619
i didn't say men should or that i wanted to. just that most have a biological urge to.

>>21632624
>you're fucking retarded if it took you so long to learn your native language, you should know it perfectly around 8 yo
you could understand and produce adult-level speech at 8 years old? because i'm talking about adult-level mastery not fuckng 8 year old speak
shut the fuck up lol you sound like such an antisocial teenager arguing bullshit to feel better about himself
i can't imagine someone who acts like you being functional in the real world

>>21632604
>That's because people spend thousands of dollars buying, scanning/ripping and uploading content so fags like you can grab stuff without a second thought as to how the piracy ecosystem works.
they're so ungrateful man

>>21632642
I see the retarded fag is mad because I was able to speak like an adult at 8 while you were still speaking like a dumb baby, just cry or write about it in your emo blog instead of trying to argue here with absolutely no points

>>21632549
Wait til you find out how many games are in the Rance series

reminder that there are many conversations, books, news reports etc that 8, 10, even 12 year old kids (and especially those who are younger) "nope" right tf out of because they don't understand them yet
the "children are perfectly fluent in their native language by age 5!" people sound retarded to those who actually spend time around kids observing their speech and comprehension abilities directly

>>21632667
tell me more about how u spend time around kids observing their speech and compehension abilities directly

(i agree tho kids are fuckin retarded)

>>21632667
This. Shit, even most adults nope out of technical conversations that aren't their field.

>>21632667
I am an elementary teacher so I actually know how children development works, thanks. I never said they were perfectly fluent at five, I said that when most children are 8 they can talk about a lot of things and understand most topics. If you want to be "perfectly fluent" then you will never achieve it, I'm a teacher and I'm sure there still are useless or outdated words I don't know in my native language, this doesn't mean that I'm not fluent in my native language. You're fucking dumb.

>>21632673
Maybe you think that an 8 yo kid can't understand ABSOLUTELY everything but as I said you never know 100% of a language vocab, this doesn't mean that you're not fluent. Saying 'you're not fluent in your native language before being 10yo" is the dumbest statment ever

Glad we are having the daily language learning battle, but as a reminder DON'T FORGET TO WATCH JAV

>>21632677
i work at a japanese school
just yesterday a 6th grade girl (who's very smart) couldn't read the word 区切り
there have been multiple times now when 10 to 12 year olds i've asked about words in manga i'm reading, didn't know the word, called their friend who's an "expert" to come read it, and they didn't know it either (sometimes the expert friend new, perhaps 50% of the time)
kids might understand the general structure of their language, but when it comes to higher level grammar and vocabulary they do not automatically know it just because they've heard adults say it
it takes time for them to learn those things

>JAV
you mean those videos about those pixelated whores squealing and crying while saying kimochii over and over?

>>21632717
based, eroge and doujins are the ultimate nihongo master jerkmaterial

>>21632701
ur post made me think about things i read as a kid and how much better i understood them reading them 20 years later in just many different ways

anyway as for ur anecdote those kids still knew the word when they found out how to read it right

>>21632754
No we need you as the leader for the beta uprising. Don't fall for jewish machine psyop

>>21632642
he's obv trolling, wtf

>>21632754
how long do u expect to spend reading normally

I'm not even here to learn japanese I'm just here to argue with other people that don't learn japanese either

>>21632736
usually, no
the girl might have known くぎり when she heard it spoken (not sure though since the teacher explained the meaning so she might have learned it right there)
but as for the words i ask about in manga, usually they have furigana, and i say the word out loud to them and they still don't know

わたしがここにいる理由はたった一つ

わたしはゲイ

>>21632800
here, have some reddit silver

>>21632736
>ur post made me think about things i read as a kid and how much better i understood them reading them 20 years later in just many different ways
oh and same

I feel gay today

>>21632816
おかまはん？ほな「わたくし」やろ。

>>21632827
you can't learn japanese if you don't feel gay everyday

>>21632816
ほる系？ほられるほう？そこのべな

The summer heat makes me drowsy . I have 0 motivation.

>>21632836
The problem is that I feel so gay, I want to hang myself

Fuck it, I'm tired of not understanding posts. I'm tired of being reliant on other people's shitty subs. I don't have anything else to do in my wageslave life so I'm going to start learning today starting with hiragana and katakana.

these posts always make me sad cuz its like yah ok see u in a decade when u start to become good haha

>>21632848
がんばれ、社畜ちゃん

>>21632857

>>21632857
where's the tobiden bro

>>21632701
young children are illiterate. who knew? not you apparently

i think someday i'll become insane

>>21632896
i decided to play barkley shut up and jam gaiden instead

>>21632906
he's probably not progressed since he turned 8 so he didn't notice any difference, that's probably why

>>21632517
>But DJT is a toxic environment full of competitive little boys using their Japanese learning as some kind of pissing contest,
>who like to act as if there's something wrong with you if your Japanese isn't perfect 1 year into studying.
i mean u should prob be able to hold a simple conversation after 5 years lol but the only thing u should care about is havin fun
there are prob a lot more people who take it seriously in matts cult than djt

idk im just always blown away by noobs who are worried about number of words and cards and cant even explain how to strap on their velcro shoes in japanese

>>21632983
probably because they learned all of their words from hentai games and anime where the topic of tying your shoes is unlikely to ever come up

>>21633019
i mean all u gotta say is effectively "do this with this and this with this and then ur done"

>>21633019
how can u learn all ur words from eroge but catch the brain disease of measurin ur vocabulary and flash cards
also u just havent played the right eroge

>>21632611
Wasn't Dave Spector like 14 when he started learning Japanese? That's long after the "childhood language acquisition" window yet his Japanese is still pretty much perfect. I think you're just coping desu

>>21633031
"Measuring" your vocabulary is pointless except as a general measure of your own progress over time

Making flash cards is useful for retention. I like to remember words so I don't have to look them up when playing eroge

>>21633039
i meant counting ur flash cards
u can def use flash cards without bein completely fucked

Japanese is easy
Why do you think it’s so hard?

>>21632611
hard cope
>It violates several linguistic universals more than any other language known
you're just making shit up

>>21633052
prob from obsessin over an optimal learning path instead of just readin more

>>21633052
>Japanese is easy
lol now that's just delusional to the other way. I took the JLPT 1kyu (before they started with the N1) after 3 years of studying including one year living in Japan and I'm really fucking good with languages and still had to work my ass off.

>>21633072
it aint as succinct when u qualify it but yeah u should prob do that too

>>21632876
this reminded me of another guy who didnt make it >>19319947

>>21633068
Any language is "easy" if you have enough fun with it to stay motivated until fluency. But yeah, it's misleading to say that Japanese is conceptually easy for a westerner. Any boomer can learn Spanish, but good luck getting them to channel the sheer autism required to learn thousands of kanji just to understand some radioactive island language. I feel like you have to really, really want it.

someone please tell me what kara and to mean as particles I’ve read the tae kim section on both multiple times I still don’t get it, I understand “to”can be used for multiple things and to quote but I can only sometimes tell. Also i am dumb, but I feel tae Kim didn’t explain kara well enough
Pls don’t tell me just to immerse more

>>21633105
stop tryin to study for a test and read more

>>21633033
>yet his Japanese is still pretty much perfect
https://youtu.be/74i3MqeyMZw?t=215

>>21633103
Well said

>>21633113
here we go again

>>21633114
Interesting. I've talked about this with some of my Japanese friends before and they said they couldn't hear an accent when Dave speaks, but it's possible that it might be subtle or something.

Regardless, what about current-day Matt? Haven't native Japanese people come out and said that his pronunciation is pretty much perfect now that he's been practicing the pitch accent stuff for a few years?

How the fuck is everyone and their fucking aunt, suddenly been living in Japan. Much less how are some weeb losers from here living there, I was told it's hard to get in

>>21633114
it wasnt until i watched that clip that i realized just how retarded and nowhere near any sort of japanese competency matt is lmao

>>21632611
tell me if you still believe that after you read 200 japanese books.

>>21633100
Damn I completely forgot about that. I still don't know Japanese but I have stuck with it. Maybe in another 2 years I'll be comfortable with my comprehension. Also RTK was stupid and I don't recommend it.

>>21632791
at least 8 hours since i have lots of free time right now

let's all learn lots and have fun today

>>21633162
what have u learned lately djt poster "moenigger"

>>21633149
explain pls

>こと
I DONT UNDERSTAAAAAAAAND

>>21633149
Didn't matt score higher than most natives do on some well regarded nihongo test? Can't be assed to look up the details.

>>21633166
read 1k pages of manga and watched over 30 hours of anime this week

>>21633195
thats not something u learned tho

>>21633198
im sure i learned something in those

>>21633195
was it anime with japanese subs ?

>>21633211
no

https://youtu.be/uThg9MQqcyY?t=2677
lol wtf...

I've been watching a Japanese news live stream all day

shit's getting flooded

>>21633225
Where do you watch those from?

>>21633105
と is a question marker just like か. that's its main function. the other meanings you can basically save for N1 because they're not used in regular speech.

So I just switched to Windows 10 and and reinstalled anki, but now I somehow get a weird font, the one at the bottom of the screenshot.
Both are Arial font but somehow differ severely, I hope someone can help me out with that.

>>21633219
that's actually pretty good and I understood clearly everything he said and hope to be able to output that well one day

>>21633232
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=coYw-eVU0Ks
>>21633244
make sure you have proper japanese language fonts installed

>>21633256
Oh so it's a windows 10 problem and I need to find a way to install fonts, I'll give it a try.
Thank you

>>21633261
You should be able to find it under language support settings in Windows, wherever the fuck that is

>>21633159
if u would rather be wasting time on dumb shit instead of reading u should probably find something more compelling to read it dont read easy shit just becuz it's easy if u dont enjoy it go read kkk if u want reading shouldnt feel like a chore

>>21633244
I think what's happening is that your system will share characters between Chinese, Japanese, etc. to save space on your pc, unless you specifically install regional language patches to handle them more nicely

>>21633269
>>21633279
Alright will try installing the correct fonds, thanks again.

>>21633105 don't listen to >>21633238, he's trolling.
と has multiple meanings which are used extremely commonly.
http://www.punipunijapan.com/japanese-particle-to/
Also, I am a big fan of immersion-driven learning but you need to get to a certain level first so that you have some foundation to work with. If you're ever confused about a Japanese particle, then just google it, and chances are there are tons of beginner-level articles about it out there

>>21633105
から is a particle, sure, but it's also a noun prefix meaning "foreign", and this is the more important usage and what you need to wrap your head around first. the same prefix is sometimes pronounced とう also, confusingly, as in とうじん, for foreigner

>>21633314
と IS a question marker, esp. in Kyushu. it was a high-level troll mmkay

>>21633320
does it mean u can attach から to any noun to mean foreign for example から概念 or does that mean that some words have から to mean foreign

>>21633169
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ygjh5UWKPqI

it made me smile when I figured out what 五輪 meant

>>21633335
u know upon watching that vid i think george would be great to just hit in the balls and watch his reaction

>>21633333
no you can't use it with any word, but almost anything that's foreign (or was once foreign) has an associated word beginning with とう or から

some usage examples
から-いも foreign potato
から-おけ foreign orchestra
から-あげ foreign chicken
から-ことば Korean (lit. foreign words)
から-す crow (it. foreign vinegar)

>>21633339
you didn't "figure it out," you guessed and ended up right by chance, Mr. 一輪四輪七輪

>>21633335
how many of these vids do I need to watch before I'm fluent?

>>21633354
interesting, never really looked at it this way

>>21633359
I figured it out based on the surrounding context of what I was watching which made it overwhelmingly clear, the kanji association was just a bonus

>>21633105
から = from, because of
ちんこがすきから私はゲイです

i've found that when i get confused on a grammar point, if i read a couple explanations and then read a bunch of example sentences (often provided in random grammar guides you can find by googling the point), i end up getting it. sometimes the process can take an hour or two.

and yet there's plenty of grammar points that i never feel like doing this with, so i recognize them but keep forgetting what they mean. if i spent a day reviewing these grammar points i could advance my understanding of japanese by a decent amount but i'm never motivated enough to do it. oh well.

why are some extremely common kanji n1 while other less common kanji are n3 some joyo kanji are also like this are they just out of date or something

just think of から as stating the reason. it can have a range of meanings like that's why, because of, etc. it's really simpler to think of it that way than to try and remember the english meaning

just think as から as から and let ur brain figure out what to do with that information from reading more its really simpler to think of it that way

just don't think of から at all babies don't think about it and can use it

Just read and feel it my dudes

can you feel my big cock wedged into your asshole?

just dont think
feel

>tfw can't feel because ur a sperg

擦る

わたしのbuttholeからうんこが出ます

imagine not knowing ketu no ana

Will Rosetta Stone be enough to make me mostly (not perfect, but at least 90%) fluent in Japanese? I was thinking about doing it since I'm going to be going there later this year but I don't know any Japanese yet.

>>21633519

>>21633519
RTK takes 3 to 6 moths if you are serious. And by the end of that you don't even "know Japanese."
Good luck kid you already lost the game

>>21633519
go read whatever u want literally anything

>>21633519
hell no language learning is something that is spent with TIME not money, at best you can start reading/watching today and you will be able to read a okay amount by December.
But if you only care about improving the quality of your stay then just memorize some phrases and maybe learn katakana

日本語はむずかしい

日本語は優しい

わたしたちはゲイ

the concept of organized school activities seem fun af. all we fucking had in this shithole was going to the local cafe after class and drinking beer

feels bad korean learners get full hangul support and we're stuck with chink scratches being read a bunch of different ways

>>21633619
Korean looks ugly af though, Japanese wouldn't be nearly as interesting without the runes

nihongo is fun

>>21633619
why would you ever learn korean

>>21633619
on the bright side korean is a gay and pointless retard language

>>21633595
易しい*

>>21633717
thanks

>>21633656
depends on if u liek esportz

>>21633731
no that's true even if you do like that stuff because the only "competitive" game scenes worth watching are FPS like TF2 or CS:GO.

korean is good if you want to interact with the diaspora, besides bibimbab can beat most ___don most of the time

>>21633717
優しい*

Imaine how fluent you would have been had you doubled the number of new cards a day

>>21633822
No.
>日本語はむずかしい
then
>日本語は優しい

It is obviously an attempt to contrast the first sentence and the antonym of むずかしい is 易しい (written like this).
優しい means gentle, soft, sweet.
Please do not correct someone unless you know what you are doing.

>>21626074
what dictionary is this?

>>21633840
no sense of humor
everything must be dry
sasuga quizmaster

>>21625375
I am so proud of your effort in spreothe good word

>>21631514
anime???

>>21633838
you'd probably just get burnt out and give up after a couple months

>>21633838
if i did 60 cards per day id wanna kms

actually it's a joke saying nihongo is yasashii but using the wrong kanji thus making a contradictory statement but you corrected it thus ruining the joke gay