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>>21297576
It's like UFO, but better.

It alright.

A bit disappointed by the spell cards.

i like that the checkpoints and explosion decorations are no longer a thing. even with the goasts floating around on the screen it's somehow less cluttered.

It feels so weird playing as slashy Youmu again after all this time.

>>21297593
Agreed. The spellcards feel a bit too unimpressive. I just hope it's just ZUN throwing us a bone, wanting the players to keep as many lives as possible, and the subsequent bosses will be better.

>>21297576
How do I get the No.29 to 32 spell card? Are they just placeholders?

Is ZUN hiding a yellow roar for the final game

What would happen if I get 3 or more rare spirits?

I'd have to avoid spirits almost entirely and forget about the Stage 3 one.

I wonder if it'll be worth trying something that counterintuitive.

I hope the stage 4 boss kicks my shit in, I'm not sure if I'm just getting used to Touhou again but this game feels a bit easier to me than the previous.
I wasn't sure if I liked the music at first but once I got used to the instruments I ended up enjoying it quite a bit.

>>21297675
Why are you typing

like this, anon?

Please stop doing

it in the future.

>>21297720
I really like stage 1 music, I think ZUN nailed it.
Stage 2 sounds like...a cow. I guess it's fitting.
Stage 3 felt rushed and all the danmaku were slight variations on UFO patterns (Omen of Purple Clouds, Rare Metal Detector, Murasa's nonspell)

>>21297720
I've noticed a lot of people seem to think that this game is easier than 16 and I don't get it at all. Is it a complete joke on Normal or something? The bosses on Lunatic are among some of the harder stage 1, 2 and 3 bosses in the entire franchise from my perspective. I can't think of anything remotely difficult about the first three bosses in 16 besides Aunn having some questionable nons.

>>21297864
Not him but I'd hardly call myself the best 2hu player ever and both times I 1cc'd the demo (ReimuA and YoumuA) I felt like I should bump the difficulty up to Hard.

I chalked it up to me getting better over time but with all these reactions I'm not so sure anymore.

>>21297864
They are bombing and using hypers

>>21297864
It feels about the same to me on Normal; in both games' demos survival wasn't a challenge, but then I died a lot to stupid shit from getting too cocky and aggressively trying to optimize resource collection. But in any case, it's silly to judge based only on the demo.
>>21297992
I'm sure you could do the first half of most games on Lunatic even, but it's the second half that's important.

>>21297997
Hypers don't exactly make Lunatic easy though and if people are bombing and basing their opinion on the difficulty around that, then it makes no sense since if you need to bomb to clear the first three stages of any Touhou game, that's a pretty good sign that the game is probably quite hard. The only answer is that Normal has to be a joke if so many people seem to think even 16 is harder than 17.

>>21297864
>Is it a complete joke on Normal or something?
Pretty much. The hypers are pretty much free super bombs every minute or so, allowing you to skip a lot of stuff. The thing that has by far killed me the most is the yellow pellets on stage 3 blending into the background.

I feel like he focused all his effort on the mechanic, and it works well. However the patterns and spellcards seem really uninspired. LOLK and HSIFS had some great patterns and cards in stages 1-3, while 17 is mostly just streaming.

>>21297864
I found it harder than 16's first 3, which isn't much. Maybe it's because I get greedy with spirits at times and run into bullets

>>21298119
>Hypers don't exactly make Lunatic easy though
Have you seen the otter hyper? Its essentially god mode. Whats more, if you are using otter sub it also lasts longer no to mention the stronger bombs and additional bomb count.>>21298119
>and if people are bombing and basing their opinion on the difficulty around that, then it makes no sense
Of course it doesnt but a lot of people do it.

>>21297992
I did a run on hard earlier and only one spellcard really caught me off guard. Not noticing a small bullet trying to get a spirit has been a much deadlier force

>>21298413

I tried playing on easy and it was harder than normal for some reason. Maybe I was getting cocky? Did anyone figure out if the cow and egg do anything? I dislike that the animals stop changing when you get near.

>>21298588
Nah, I think you just got distracted. I'm horrible at shmup and I only use continue once which as far as I'm concerned is pretty impressive.

>>21298588
You get 4 animal spirits is you time out a hyper that has the jelly in it. Not sure if it needs to have mostly the same animal spirit in it or if this would still happen with a mix of everything.

>>21298588
Cow is the same as jellyfish I think
Egg gives you one life piece and 2 bomb pieces

Does Eagly Reimu do more damage with her unfocused shots than her focused shot if she is at max power? It really feels like she does if all the homing goes for the boss.

Youmu's eagle burst hurts my eyes.

less annoying UFO + easy SA
bland music
nice characters, but they will be forgotten like Nemuno

Is it just me who thinks the opening of stage 1 theme sounds like the opening to Alice's theme? see: >>21292749

>>21297605
>checkpoints and explosion decorations
Which ones?

>>21297864
It's pretty easy on normal, I will probably be clearing this game on hard if the later stages aren't going to be too big of a jump in difficulty.

>>21299001
I can hear it too, more of the stage 3 theme at the beginning though.
Happens with the PC-98 themes, Old World has a part that is from Plastic Mind, Lunate Elf has a part that sounds slightly like the start to Ellen's theme.

>>21298919
Nemuno has a very boring, unappealing design. And so do the new girls, gone are the days of memorable, eye-candy designs.

>>21299222
Neck yourself

>>21299285
Lame Minoriko clone, but the chicken hat is new!

About how long would it take to 1cc IN lunatic with magic team, if I have already done it once with border team?

>>21299705
Not much unless it was a kuso clear.

Grabbing a spirit the second after it changes from the one you needed.

>>21300262
At least it’s no getting hit 0.1 second after you swim through hell for that 5th one

>>21300262
My best experience so far is grabbing a spirit I didn't see when I went to bomb because I was about to get hit, only to then cancel roaring and proceed to run into a different bullet as I went to shotgun the boss because why program invincibility frames right?

>>21300262
It could be worse.

Grabbing a spirit the second before it changes to the one you need.

>>21299705
Not a whole lot but you'll have to take the time to learn the Reimu fight. Arguably, you'll have to get used to Alice being kind of a deadweight too.

>>21299705
Depends how good you are at the patterns. If you have decent cap rates, you can bruteforce through anything you wouldn't be familiar with as magic team, otherwise probably need to spend a bit learning slightly different routes to accommodate what magic team lack compared to border, and reimu fight.

>>21299705
>>21300435
>>21300474
You can also learn to abuse the Malice cannon.

>>21300527
Forgot my pic

I almost 1cc'd my first 2hu game today. IN on normal. Reisen fucked me up good, and I only had a single life left when I beat stage 5.

>>21300711
Yeah, what about stage 4 though.

>>21300711
The bunny is ez mode. The true challenge is to survive stage 4 without losing too much lives.

>>21300711
Reisen's rhythmic patterns always made it easy for me, I can easily beat her on Hard.
What >>21300857 says though. I love Maiden's Capriccio, but everytime I hear it my PTSD comes back.

The TH17 demo is harder than TH16. I actually had to dodge, although I guess if I abused the otter hyper I could have cheesed the whole thing.

That last enemy on stage 3 with its minuscule blinding yellow bullets. I hate it.

>>21301203
I feel like this game has an "average" level of difficulty so far. Not easy but not too difficult.

Otter hyper is broken and picking Otter increases it's duration. AND I get tons of free bombs? AND my bombs last double?

For cheesing the game there's no better option.

>>21301965
Your shots are kinda dogshit picking Otter but bombs would probably more than make up for it in the full game

>>21300711
Nigga, I just died to Resurrection Butterfly in a bombless kino run of PCB where I had zero lives left for Yuyuko's last spellcard.
I thought this was it. I really did.
Can't say I choked because of stress though. My brain saw ahead but my fingers couldn't follow it.

That fucking adrenaline rush in those last moments though. God damn.

>>21302517
>kino
Go back there.

>>21302715
I too think that word is overused.
But it was fitting in that context so you fuck off.

>>21301965
Doesn't picking anything during Roaring extend its duration?

>>21302982
Yes it looks like you get a boost to the duration of your roar if it's the spirit you picked. It's easy to test

>Repository of Hirokawa -Ghost-
>0/31

tfw no goat goast

SA graze collect should have been a permanent mechanic

>>21303287
Other than spell cards, what other gimmick mechanics became permanent?

>>21303307
Visible hitbox

>>21303307
Marisa

>>21303325
That's more like a qol thing
>>21303333
I see

>>21303307
I guess being able to collect at any power level was a gimmick?

>>21297675
That's an absolutely retarded way to play. And for what? A trophy?

I liked the cock 2hu better when she was a drugged out whore in Juuni Taisen

>>21303474
or having a poc at all
also focused movement

What is the octopus thing supposed to be?

>>21303480
Nothing wrong with coming up with new ways to play. If the other 3 rare spirits can be gotten without roaring I'm going to do just that. For now I leave you with a N(ormal)N(o bomb)N(o miss)N(o tokens collected)N(o focus) run.
https://mega.nz/#!YCpknYKD!SIZgYnZHi9pv1VREBoF-b7RD945DQV91TqyVi8-Xvo0

The trophies have grown on me. Feels nice having little goals to distract myself with on the way to the usual stuff. Glad he added them. They feel better in the normal games than they do in the spinoffs IMO.

>>21303307
death bombs right?

>>21300262
Even UFO had predictable timers and didn't switch if you were close, and now ZUN's made it leagues more lenient by increasing the range it doesn't switch, slowing it down if you're close, and letting them stay on the screen forever. Plus grabbing one "wrong" spirit doesn't invalidate the rest of your stock. Stop being a baby.

>>21302176
You realize Otter hyper also cancels bullets right

>>21303732
Each midboss drops a rare animal if you fulfill a secret condition (don't destroy spirits, stay up close, defeat with otter active). If you finish the hyper you get 5 bonus animals instead of 2 and it includes life and bomb fish.

Finally managed to beat Mokou with Marisa Solo but didn't get the Last Spell

Best shot type to beat Flandre? I only have MarisaB unlocked so far but it's painful.

>>21304223
Bomb damage is irrelevant so just pick your preferred combination of power and range.

>>21304223
ReimuB and MarisaA are the strongest shots. MarisaA also makes Royal Flare a joke if you're feeling too lazy to learn the route.

>>21302758
Kill yourself.

>>21303307
Focus creating a vaccum effect that draws in power ups. Probably the best thing modern Touhou has kept since MoF, and most players don't even notice it exists most of the time.

>>21304323
It isn't only focus that does this, it's probably just more obvious when you are focused. But yes it's a good change.

>>21298642
It feels that way. Reimu + Eagle is overpowered.

Are the first three Windows games the easiest to 1cc on Lunatic?

>>21305455
No.
IN, MOF and TD are

>>21305563
>no DDC
Can Marisa B even run out of lives?

>>21305806
IN has 7 starting lives and 50 frames death bomb or something.
MoF has MarisaB
TD is just very easy
DDC MarisaB is a strong contender to replace TD, but DDC has a limit at a total of 52 lives, then the fragments stop working.

>>21305870
>IN has 7 starting lives
Which means nothing since 1ccs are only legitimate if you play with the default

>>21305870
>IN has 7 starting lives
>MoF has MarisaB
They're both easy games but these aren't reasons why.

>>21297761
it's reddit spacing

>>21305870
Alright but what if you are simply starting with homing Reimu and default lives and bombs in every game?

Unofficial /jp/ windows touhou first lunatic 1cc tierlist:
Big cheese tier:
PoFV (Aya, Medicine)
MoF (MarisaB)
DDC (MarisaB)
Fucken joke tier:
PCB (SakuyaA)
IN (Border team)
TD (Youmu)
LoLK (Reisen)
HSiFS (Any character - Autumn)
Easy tier:
PCB (everyone except SakuyaA)
IN All teams except border team, all solo youkai characters except Alice)
MoF (ReimuA, B and MarisaC)
SA (ReimuA, ReimuC)
TD (Reimu, Marisa)
DDC (ReimuA, SakuyaA)
Normal tier:
IN (solo humans)
PoFV (everyone remaining)
MoF (ReimuC, MarisaA)
TD (Sanae)
DDC (ReimuB, MarisaA)
HSiFS (Every character - Spring and Summer)
Requires one out of 3 things* tier:
EoSD (All characters)
IN (Alice)
SA (Everyone remaining)
UFO (SanaeB)
LoLK (Everyone remaining)
HSiFS (All characters - Winter)
Difficult to 1cc after months of practice tier:
UFO (everyone except SanaeB and MarisaB)
Even "superplayers" are afraid tier:
UFO (MarisaB)
DDC (SakuyaB)

This should just about cover everything

*= (talons, planning ahead or stage practice)

>>21306103
What makes Spring easier than Winter? Winter has the bugged stacking lasers that let you kill everything quickly, the release lets you delete Spell Cards almost instantly and it has the easiest final card next to Autumn.

Do people just automatically assume you abuse MoF MarisaB's glitch when you play her?

>>21306202
They probably aren't aware vpatch gives you the option of correcting the bug.

>>21306103
Talons?

>>21306270
Yes, they enhance movement precision

Fuck SA
Dumb cat
Dumb bird
Satori is one of my favorite boss fights so far, though. Her theme is fucking rad and with ReimuA the chorus lines up perfectly with her last three spellcards. Musical cues are something I've noticed ZUN is getting better and better at. (PCB stage 5, IN/MoF stage 4) Although I'm not sure how intentional it is within boss fights, when it does happen it's a real treat.

>>21306315
Eagle players pls go
this is Wolf territory

>>21306202
That IN is all over the place. Solo Youmu is probably better than Border team. Meanwhile solo Sakuya is undisputedly under or on par with solo Alice.

>>21306103
That IN is all over the place. Solo Youmu is probably better than Border team. Meanwhile solo Sakuya is undisputedly under or on par with solo Alice.

>>21306212
I bet you aren't aware that's cheating.

>>21306568
stale meme

>>21304318
After you.

>>21306568
Says who?

Where 2 get JynX's pc98 remakes?

>>21307053
Don't think the games were ever released at all, but he posted the music he made for them on his bandcamp

All games on the current engine slow down to pretty much exactly 50 fps whenever any significant amount of bullets is on the screen. The vsync patches fix this, but I haven't found patches for 14, 16 and obviously the 17 trial, so it's impossible for me to do any valid runs in these games right now. Windows 10.
Any advice?

>>21307195
Are you playing on a potato?

>>21307223
Desktop, i5 and 1070 ti, the hardware really can't be the issue here.

>>21303307
Bombs collecting everything on screen.

>>21307195
Use a better OS

>>21307195
Disable gaming mode and fullscreen optimizations, or enable them if they're already disabled.

>>21307387
I play on Windows 10 with no FPS issues.

>>21307234
Then what software do you have (GPU driver version, OS version (1507 to 1903)? Do you have some kind of post processing activated?
What's your native resolution and what are you running the game in?

>>21307195
I play these games on a shitty laptop and I never ran into any slowdown. You must have something turned on that's fucking up with the game.

I have no idea why the fuck people are claiming MoF is easy to 1cc. For me the 3 easiest games to 1cc are EoSD, IN and TD in that order. Hell I can't even 1cc MoF WITH MARISA B GLITCH while I 1cc those other 3 games easily. But everyone is different I guess

>>21307528
ur bad

It took me 35 tries to get past Clownpiece's first nonspell I feel like a retard

>>21307543
Whatever faggot, I may be bad but it absolutely boggles my mind how people put MoF as an easier game than EoSD while to me it clearly is not. The only bad thing about EoSD is that some bullets may fly differently each time but other than that there is no hard danmaku at all.

>>21307567
Sounds like you're not taking advantage of the mechanics; understand how the faith system works and how to use it effectively, and also be sure to use your bombs. And get good.

>>21307567
Press that motherfucking X button you dofus.

>>21307579
Only faggots use bombs. 1cc runs using bombs don't count.
>And get good
>already 1cc'd 3 Touhou games
based retard

>>21307567
There is no hard danmaku in MoF save for that one from Aya that is pure dodging and Kanako's final card.

>>21307590
>1cc
>not playing for the score

>>21307590
>>21307618
Who are you quoting?

>>21307590
This isn't /v/ tough guy. Not to mention those games are pretty easy on normal.

>>21307590
Just say you're trying for LNB then, to avoid confusion.

>>21307590
Based on what?

>>21307629
>This isn't /v/
With all the /v/ermins that have been showing up it very much is.

>>21307528
http://replays.gensokyo.org/download.php?id=25650

>>21307630
He's still a moron for suggesting that MoF is harder than EoSD with that restriction. EoSD has a couple of Meiling patterns, Books, Patchy, Sakuya and Remilia. MoF meanwhile has a couple of Aya patterns and Kanako's final as the only things that should realistically have a chance of killing you on top of having Sanae who is probably the easiest stage 5 after Reisen.

>>21307442
>>21307470
>>21307524
Found the issue. Freesync (or at least nvidia's implementation of it) doesn't get along at all with 2hu games for some odd reason and syncs them to 50 fps most of the time. Deactivating it solves the problem.
Should've been one of the first things to consider as a potential cause but I kind of forgot I even used the feature.

>>21307646
It's that bad. New game hype I presume.

>>21307663
*It's not

>>21307656
>who is probably the easiest stage 5 after Reisen.

>>21307675
desu the only scary Sanae spell is Moses wall and even that is just misdirection.

>>21307629
After mostly leaving /jp/ for a few years and coming back to see how things are. It really makes me sad to see this place overrun by /v/.
They really have no idea what they're talking about yet they act as if they do while not having any of the /jp/ etiquette.

>>21307550
Welcome to the club!

>>21307675
He's still right though, Reisen is harder than Futo

>>21307715
not sure about /jp/ as a whole, but in gameplay threads the gatekeepers either left or gave up. folks either didn't recognize the medicine or weren't dedicated enough to start administering it themselves. i accept my share of the blame.
there seems to be a 4chan-wide decline, though. fwiw, /jp/ at least feels like a geriatric version of its former self if you hide the idol and template threads and hide/ignore obvious crossboarding, which can't be said for all boards (rip /vr/).

I am so fucking tired of dying on Scarlet Gensokyo every single damn time.

>>21306103
Shit list, go back to discord

>>21307550
Only 35?

>>21308320
You must be a colossal autist to fear change this much and speak about new people coming in here as if it was the end of the world.

>>21308755
Lurk at least two years before posting.

>>21308721
Oh I was playing on normal. Her second non spell seemed so much easier, was it just me?

>>21307715
Actually, in recent weeks we just got this wave of new players. Like a suspicious amount of people who were just getting their first 1ccs. Maybe it's because of Steam, I don't know.

>>21307528
>Hell I can't even 1cc MoF WITH MARISA B GLITCH
so you're retarded

Finally got this ExNN but I somehow forgot to save the replay. At least I grabbed a screenshot.
Back to the grind.

>>21311563
I hate it.
Maybe tomorrow.

Does anyone have a link to Th17tr's OST?

>>21311760
Can't you extract it with the usual tool?

>>21312237
If he liked to exert effort then he wouldn't have asked

>>21312267
>>21312237

I worry about the loops. Is it simple to do?

>>21309390
I came because of cunny and Reimu in February. What's wrong with it?

How do you feel about artificial AI acing Touhou games and breaking meatbag records?

>>21312697
Wait what?

>>21312625
It's literally selecting the right file and dumping all the .wavs into the folder of your choice. At least it was last time I did it.

>>21312697
Come again?

>>21312728
>artificial AI
Artificial artificial intelligence?

>>21312728
It make sense, Touhou is a pretty simple kind of game after all, perfect for that sort of machine learning. I think it's a neat.

>>21312728
That is nice, but can that AI also shitpost in the gameplay threads and tell scrubs to hold shift for focused movement? Didn't think so.

>>21312861
>He needs shift

>>21312965
whom'st've you quoted?

>>21307053
Wait for https://github.com/nmlgc/ReC98..

How do I beat MoF 4 without getting destroyed everytime. Surely there's a secret tip like in PCB right?

>>21313254
Just memorization; most of the stage isn't difficult as long as you start each section with enough room to stream and don't get painted into a corner. Drill it in practice mode.

>>21313254
Memorize the stage part, bomb on Momizi, and bomb like crazy on Aya. That's how I got a hard 1CC.

>>21313004
me

Is Mokou's rings harder than PDH or is it just me?

>>21307675
>>21307656
For me the easiest stage 5 bosses are Clonpi (Just in Lunatic though), Orin and Futo.

By the way, there's no way to unlock Practice Mode and Spell Practice in the new demo without modifying the game files, right?

>>21312728
Let's see
>>21313254

>>21313628
are you talking about her last non-spell? Because that's one of the hardest attacks in the series alongside PDH, Okina Spring, and Gengetsu Rape Time

I've been playing touhou without the vpatch for over a year

>>21314235
Why?

>>21314261
I didn’t know that it was a thing

>>21314270
I've been playing for years until I finally decided to run vpatch. You're not missing that much

>>21314276
I disagree, at least on 6-10
Sometimes I open one of them without vpatch by accident and I feel like I'm moving through sludge and attract bullets like a magnet

>>21314284
It honestly does feel like this I hate myself for not looking for this earlier. This would have saved me so many hours wasted on flandre

>>21314276
>You're not missing that much
That strongly depends on the computer and the game.
In the majority of cases, trying to play EoSD without the vpatch is like trying to play it with a faulty Wiimote.

>>21314284
>>21314350
Yeah it might be extremely computer dependent. I do feel more comfortable using it, however I can't see any improvement on my gameplay wheter vpatch's on or not

I haven't played Touhou in a long while but grabbed TH17's trial and I think I need to start playing again. I don't really understand the gimmick in detail but bringing back Youmu's focus slash, buffing it with the wolf subtype, and then the autofire when you collect enough wolf spirits is heavenly.

>>21314004
I can beat Mokou just fine and don't remember any extreme attacks, and I'm not exactly the best player around. What attack are you referring to?

>>21314467
Youmu: "I'm afraid of no ghost!"

>>21314468
Probably this one. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Eapc7UH--qY

>>21314468
Her last nonspell is just the most extreme version of her nonspells; very fast overlapping random rings. It's significantly more difficult than anything else she has, really.

>>21314467
Now that I've played it more and have more than just a base impression, optimizing the gimmick is really hard. It's not as strict as UFO of course since every pickup can change color, but I find myself in the middle of a boss pattern with five different things to collect at once and trying to hover near them waiting for them to change color while also dodging patterns and making sure my sword can actually hit the boss is tougher than I expected. The final spellcard on Stage 3 also fucks me up because of the sword just destroying all the spirits at once. I accidentally grabbed wolf pickups heading into that one once, did not have a good time.

>>21314467

>>21315511
Doesn't hovering near them make them stop changing color just like UFO?

tried making my own ssg for the demo
fuck my life

>>21318899
There's already a practice patch. Look in the last thread.

Just fucking wasted a bunch of time because I didn't read the previous thread darn

>>21307528
Just bomb everything.

>>21306470
Stage 3 in SA is what repels me from ever playing it at expanse

>>21307528
MoF was so easy I recovered and 1cced it after tilting hard and having 0 extra lives on the start of stage 4. Also Kanako's final is fun, her penultimate spell is ass though.

>>21317719
It does, but I meant "getting near enough it that you can swoop in and get it when it changes while also not stopping it from changing colors." Which is admittedly more difficult than just hovering it.

so many animal

How long are usually your sesions? My performance drops down around 90 mins - 2 hours of playing so I want how others are holding up.

>>21324877
Same as you, I have far less patience than I used to nowadays.
Sometimes I get assmad real fast and quit after at most 30 mins, sometimes I really get into it and I can go up to 2/3 hours.

>>21324877
Usually spend around 10-15 minutes warming up on a random dodging spell then either practice for an hour or two, or do attempts for that long instead.

Fuck my life. Also, how the fuck are you supposed to dodge the rainbow UFO spell with the French fries coming from all directions? I have to bomb or die every single wave.

How do I capture Urumi's 1st and 2nd spellcards? Her 2nd spellcard especifically seems extremely confusing, I either end up walled or crushed by the balls as they grow in size

>>21325475
Dodge them high on the screen before they enlarge too much

>>21325475
Which difficulty?

>>21325460
>rainbow UFO spell with the French fries
I like to stay near the bottom and close to the left, killing the UFOs that fall down on the left when convenient (so very few bullets come from the left side) and dodging the bullets from the right and the top.

>>21325493
This worked for her first, thanks anon. No idea how to do her 2nd though.
>>21325500
Hard/Lunatic, I'm trying to get the no miss achievment.

>>21325736
There's like a dozen NNN runs on youtube already just look at those.

It feels like complaining here always helps me do better, so let's try it again.
Fuck Scarlet Gensokyo.

>>21329185
In my experience complaining in earnest helps but complaining with the intent of making you play better doesn't help at all. If you're aware of and trying to invoke that skill boost it won't come.

DDC
more like
BBC hahaha

>>21329287
i've had good luck despite having full knowledge of what i was doing. of my four derp/meh-score posts this year, three were followed by milestones within the week (one the very next day), and i hardly count the last one as it was made in the same week as one of the others and i stopped working toward that specific goal a couple days later.

perhaps what truly matters is having full faith in the power of your shitposting.

>>21329185
Hitting my desk in anger helped me beat EoSD

I've started toying with LLS
2 blind attempts, 2 1cc with LOTS of resources left. It's legit the easiest Touhou game ever.

>>21330642
I felt that way my first time playing PCB and MoF. Ended up getting blind 1ccs in both of them with ReimuB.

someone pick a shot type for me to play in UFO, they're all so boring I can't choose.
why are there two homing, two spread, and two linear shots in this game. where's my stupid gimmicky shit.

>>21330642
LLS is extremely easy because its Extra Stage absorbed the rest of the game's difficulty.

>>21331422
marisa b

>>21331422
Sanae's shots are both like 5/10 gimmicky.

>>21331757
the backward shots are interesting, but are they ever relevant for anything?

>>21331841
not really tbqh. except for hsifs extra, but it's kind of designed around this gimmick

>>21331841
He's fucking with you. Choosing MarisaB is like choosing to play one difficulty level higher than all the other shots.
Of course don't let me stop you if you're up to the challenge.

>>21331881
And Parsee's cards

>>21332134
You must be doing something wrong if you need to go above Parsee

I was able to beat SA normal for the first time yesterday.
I got to Utsuho with 7 lives but still ended up on 1.

How do you get good with arcade stick? Is there some secret to holding it right?

>>21337730
>How do you get good with arcade stick?
You stop drinking paint and play with your keyboard

>>21337730
If you use a controller like I do then use the D-pad. An arcade stick only makes sense for more fast-paced danmaku that need quick movements in any direction. You can dodge 80% of Touhou by making very precise left-right movements with slight vertical movements as needed, which is easy to do on a keyboard or digital pad.

Hyper-Slowpoke here, Chicken-chan's nonspells are too complicated to me holy fuck. I get the idea that you're supposed to navigate through the white bullets to not hit a wall while dodging the colored ones, but it still feels like it's going to take me a while until I figure out how to do it properly. I wonder if this is going to be the usual part of the stage 3 boss that ZUN tones down in the full version.
Overall, the game feels like some bizarre mix of PCB and UFO and I don't mind that.

>>21339960
He only needs to tone down the fucking final spell

>>21304187
Nice, you and me are nearly in the same boat, though I beat her with Border team.

I played the windows trilogy through on Normal + Extras and am trying to decide whether to move onto MOF for more of the same or try POFV for something a bit different.

Also downloaded STB to chip away at little by little even though I imagine it'll be way too hard at first.

>>21340278
If you can clear several of the games and extras, StB should be fine. Most of the scenes are between Normal to Hard with a few getting into Lunatic territory.

Anyone tried playing older touhou games on a CRT? Does it "feel" like it plays any better?

>>21342297
Oh no, anon has fallen for /g/ memes!

>>21342297
The games do in fact not magically become better because your monitor is older. This also holds true for games like EoSD or PCB, which do not play better on an early LCD monitor from 2002.

>>21342297
your crt reimu is a tallhu
pc-98 native res is 640x400

>>21340094
The one with streaming red collumns?

fuckfukfucfkf

>>21335830
Good job! Okuu can be harsh sometimes.

>>21342322
/vr/ is the board that loves CRTs, anon, not /g/.
>>21342297
Scanlines don't really tend to make a game "play" better for me, for any genre. I do think it looks a lot nicer for games made with that display in mind, though.

>>21342533
I don't get it

>>21342577
Scanlines are an absolute meme. Pick up any consumer grade CRT and hook up any older console and you won't really see any. The biggest advantage of CRT technology is hiding how shit and low resolution the graphics really are which ironically would really benefit touhou games.

Why aren't you playing the new Abyss Soul Lotus demo?

>>21344893
Fangame shit isn't allowed here

So I've been occasionally playing Touhou games casually since 2007, but I'd never 1cc'd one before. A couple weeks ago, with all the hype for the new game, I decided to sit down and try to 1cc EoSD once and for all.
I managed to do that with Reimu A & B and Marisa B, and I moved to PCB today and easily 1cc'd that one on my third try which definitely surprised me. I was expecting to have to work on it for at least a week or so.

EoSD Extra kicked my ass for five hours straight last night, so I know I actually still suck at 2hu. Is PCB just that easy? At any rate I am having a lot of fun finally playing these games "for real" and not just to listen to the music

>>21345999
>Is PCB just that easy?
All of the early windows games are easy. Play SA, UFO or LoLK if you want challenge.

>>21303132
Just stream it

>>21345999
Yes it's really that easy. Ton of resources, player hitboxes and bullets are at their smallest, characters move slower compared to later games allowing for easier precision movement, Reimu has a long deathbomb window and Sakuya has four bombs to abuse to bypass all of the threatening patterns. MarisaB is the hardest shot to clear with because she has no advantage over other types like ReimuB, MarisaA or SakuyaB, and only gets two bombs per life but she's still a joke.

>>21345999
I never really cared for Touhou outside of casual music listening until I tried the games
But yeah they're easy, I 1cc'd IN blind but SA and UFO still took me 70+ attempts

>>21344893
Is that a danmafuku game? I'm curious, but from my experience these run pretty bad on linux/wine.

>>21347843
That is by the same people that made SSS, so no. Chinese devs don't use danmak*fu

>>21347849
Blessed they be. I'll give it a go.

>>21347730
Pro-tip: Easy mode is not where it's at.

>>21347855
nobody mentioned easy mode

One thing I've noticed is that those small yellow point dots that show up in the bullet-clearing explosion when you die look exactly the same as the yellow dot bullets everyone hates. What the fuck ZUN.
>>21347849
danmakufu

Is it worth to play Touhou?

So there's no vpatch for DDC? Feels kinda like it needs it, but I'll accept it as it is if that's what everybody else is doing.

>>21347966
No.

>>21347843
No, absolutely no Danmakufu here.

This game can even run smooth at 120fps (dedicated setting for it!) on garbage hardware.

Oh, and the first boss is named "Shekle".

>>21349905
Latest version of the demo has kinda-playable Okina.

how do i stop being a spaz and running directly into danmaku
>t. have been trying to beat EoSD on Normal for 3 years now to no avail
i've gotten up to sakuya with continues, can get to patchy with just the lives given. help me stop being a spaz please

>>21349987
Who are you quoting?

>>21349998
gomen

Is DDC's shot types supposed to be all kinds of wack? Feels like it's either easy modo or gimping myself

>>21349987
Stop trying to clear the game and use stage practice instead until you memorize routes through the stages so you know how the enemies fire then learn the boss patterns.

>>21349987
Gotta calm down

>>21350006
That's because they are, but you'll always see the usual idiot on this place who wanks DDC to hell and back despite the fact that it's a broken game with lame soundtrack.
The only good things that came out of it are the stage 5 and 6 bosses and their themes.

>>21306103
PoFV Lunatic is just an endless game because the AI will never get hit unless you play as Medicine or Aya. I think some Anon uploaded an AI match that was over 3 hours long. Was Mystia vs Tewi if I remember it right.

>>21350372
That's only in versus mode. The story mode AI is programmed to get hit after a certain amount of time passes, based on stage and rank.

>>21350225
And Benben's nice set of legs and feet

>>21350006
ReimuA, MarisaB and SakuyaA can all break the game if you know what you're doing. MarisaB is the only true easy mode shot in the game since her bomb is a natural part of her kit and is what enables her to gain so many resources, whereas ReimuA and SakuyaA are roughly as good as most good shot types are in Touhou. It's only when you abuse their unintentional exploits to kill enemies significantly faster, that they reach the point of being easy mode, though some would argue that Sakuya's bullet slowdown is enough to reach that point.

There's only really one bad shot type, which is SakuyaB. Most people think ReimuB and MarisaA are unusable, but they're mediocre at worst and only really get overshadowed because they don't have any noteworthy positive attributes over their counterpart shot types. SakuyaB on the other hand has absolutely nothing going for her. Focusing is worse damage than unfocused shooting, her bomb is trash except for scoring and she still has to fight Yatsuhashi on top of that which is a death sentence for any B shot in survival play.

About to 1cc EoSD when my character suddenly decides to stay at the bottom right corner of the screen and I can't move anymore. Fuck you ZUN.

>>21351536
protip: stop playing in window mode

>>21351536
Press the corresponding key on your numpad and it'll be fixed.

>>21350849
yep, although rank isn't a factor in story mode as far as i can tell. just stage and number of deaths on that stage (with time being added if you spend too long being passive). it might also depend slightly on the opponent, but that's getting into the weeds and komachi's the only one that i've noticed being a little strange in that regard.

i might have brought up rank when i (re)posted the mystia mirror image (not mine), but that would have been for ai mirrors because i think someone asked how long the ai would survive on normal. internal/spell/boss ranks still probably wouldn't make a noticeable difference though, with the possible exception of spell rank for reimu's l2s.

Been trying to learn the Youmu non misdirects but a problem I've been having is that sometimes she goes really high to the top left corner which makes it almost impossible to get there fast enough with Reimu. Is it random whether she goes high on the screen or is there a way to manipulate her movement so she'll always go straight left?

Decided to play something else while trying to 1cc that UFO Hard and turned TD on. After trying it a couple of times I somehow 1cc'd Hard, how the fuck it's so much easier than UFO. Reached Miko with 1 life and 2 bombs, didn't even die, just bombed a couple of times.

i started dissecting replays and actually using the practice mode and it makes a world of difference

i also switched from kbm to analog gqmepad and i have no idea how people do it with a keyboard

I beat my first 1cc with EoSD. When do I enter Gensokyo?

>>21353602
Lunatic 1cc all games

>>21353613
Can I at least dream of Gensokyo like Sumireko with my normal 1cc?

>>21353643
Yes but you won't remember anything when you wake up.

>>21353651
How many games with 1cc normal I have to beat to remember the Sumireko-like dreams?

>>21353570
We have opposable thumbs and don't drink gasoline

>>21353683
no matter how many changes i make i still can't 1cc a game on Normal. I've come close with EoSD and MoF but real proficiency just develops with time.

>>21353570
You know that the analog stick input just gets mapped to digital inputs, right? It's not any more accurate/precise than a keyboard. I use analog sticks too because I find them more comfortable, but if anything they're worse, not better.

>>21353828
i actually suck at it anyway so i don't mind

>>21353570
>kbm
>m
You were playing Touhou with a mouse?

I literally just spent six hours straight playing this fucking stage but it was worth it. Twice I managed to get to "And Then There Will Be None?" with multiple lives and bombs in hand and managed to steer myself straight into bullets like a dumbass but the third time was a charm.
For whatever reason "Four-of-a-Kind" was the biggest thorn in my ass for the whole fight... Felt like she would keep hiding behind her bunshins and then I'd get frustrated at fail at dodging. A couple times I poured multiple bombs into it and still died.

>>21355342
Four of a Kind is legit one of Flan's easiest cards, if not THE easiest. Maze of Love is much more bullshit.

>>21355799
>Maze of Love is much more bullshit.
Just spin around her lol you have to fuck up really hard to get hit.

>>21355799
stop playing marisa

>>21355799
maze is super easy though

And done with Mamizou.

I don't see a fangame thread up so I'll ask here; why is this happening with every screenshot?

>>21359058
Because you come to post your fangame shit here instead of in its thread.
There's nothing preventing you from making a thread for it if there really isn't one.

>>21359107
Just because you don't have the answer doesn't mean you have to be rude.

>>21359107
Why does this one autistic guy get so mad when people post fangame content here, even though nobody else cares?

>>21359058
Is it just with screenshots?

>>21359121
You have to go back.

>>21359141
Why does this one autistic guy get so mad when people tell him to go away when they post non-Touhou Gameplay related bollocks in the Touhou Gameplay Thread?

>>21350225
lmao seething lolkfag, DDC is zun peak fag, it has the best story and OST of all mainline games,even better than IN but you fags can't face the truth.

>>21355881
>>21358603
Maze is super easy once you have the coordination to make the movements, which people who just get started with Extras often do not have yet. It's kind of a gatekeeper pattern.

>>21360267
wow you learned a new word good for you

Ten Desires isn't a good choice for a NB run, is it? I feel like lives are incredibly stingy in it and require extremely good routing to squeeze the most out of it.

>>21362352
The ideal to destroy your eyesight.

>>21362352
But why?

How much Kanji do I need to learn to use SpoilerAL comfortably?

>>21363084
None?

>>21354738
i play it with a trackball

Just made my first 1CC on PCB. Fucked it up altf4ing the game after the screencap.
Fuck.

>>21363156
Why even waste time replying

>>21363178
sucks. next time just press home; works on all games after eosd.

I've been playing SA hard for 2 months and this is getting me nowhere. I still lose 2-3 lives to stage 3 and recently, I've started losing a life on stage 1. I've seen Okuu only once. I don't think there's any hope for me.

>>21364340
Shot type?

>>21364340
Have you played another 2hu before SA?

>>21364340
Download riri patch, practice every pattern until you have at least 50% success rate on them all, enjoy your clears.

>>21364363
Reimu A.

>>21364365
Yeah and I have some clears as well.

>>21364340
s1 deaths sounds like frustration and a lapse in focus. you can be liberal with bombs in the first two stages and still finish each with two power, which is plenty for each following stage.

you shouldn't be dying on s3, not usually at least. each of yuugi's attacks has an approach that makes it much easier to handle (except for her first and last spells). 1-4 bombs for the boss: maybe second non, likely second spell (twice if need be), and maybe last spell. you can consistently nb the other attacks. you can also route the stage so you only need to bomb once shortly before the boss (with a free bomb on the midboss second non or spell if something goes awry) and get to the boss with nearly full power.

if you aren't getting it, check out a nb replay. and you can pick up spoileral or a practice patch to make your practice more efficient and less frustrating. spoileral in particular makes it much easier to try different things against boss attacks because you can turn on invincibility and pause boss timers.

sa can seem impossible because it will punish you for not tackling it properly, moreso than earlier games. but do it right (really learning its tricks and polishing your route) and you'll have a ton of bombs for the tough stuff (final spell notwithstanding). and r-a is the easiest shot type to use and has a relatively easy clear, so you're fine there.

>>21364340
>>21365386
I was unironically blowing two bombs on yamame when I was trying to 1cc SA. The bomb system in that game really lets you be lazy once you know when you're going to pick up a ton of power.

>>21364474
After stage 3, it gets worse. A lot worse.

Man, Miko's spellcards are some of the best in the series.

have a bump-limit page-ten shitty edit for no particular reason

>>21365835
>The only spell with dialogue in the series
>They make fun of it by the third loop
got a good chuckle from me

>>21365835
I'm not super fond of the other spells, but Guze Flash feels so nice to dodge. Also,
>Enough playing around!

is it wrong to play on easy modo?

>>21367299
You're locking yourself out of the good endings.
And no challenge.

I just got 1cc on SA normal.
Reimu A, died a bunch on stage 3 but managed to power through. Had no lives by the last card, made me hyperventilate.

>>21367299
If you're new no but it really isn't proper 1cc.

>>21367299
easy mode is perfectly justified for meme games like HRtP, PoDD/PoFV, and UFO

>>21367597
>UFO

>>21367488
>You're locking yourself out of the good endings.
only on lls, eosd, and mof

>>21367299
Yes. Easy mode is so significantly easier than Normal mode that playing it won't help you get any better, unless you're REALLY new and have never played a shmup before (and even in that case, it won't help you for long).

>>21364340
Some days you just have to except it's not happening. On those days you'll die in the first few seconds of stage 1 to something you've killed a thousand times over, and then the next day you'll blast all the way through to stage 5 flawlessly
The trick is not letting it get you down, because anger and frustration just invites more mistakes.
Persevere, because mark my words, you will get there in the end.

>>21364340
>hard
Go lunatic my man.