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I WANT TO FUCK CLOWNCUNNY

>>21236953
Wow Hecatia was evil all along

>>21236953
heca is my wife!

I want Cunnypiece to ride my cock while rubbing her feet on my face.

creampiece's sexy body

TRAITOR

>>21236968
yeah she kinda fucked gensokyo over for a selfish reason

>>21236953
So much Hell drama...

>>21237012
But she didn't.

She WANTS to. The fairy thing seems to be a natural backlash that Hecatia is using to seize and opportunity.

She can't do anything

>>21237058
Upvoted

>>21237058
worst /jp/ post of the month
congrats fag

>>21237058
This board gets shittier everyday

>>21236953
Looks like Aya was right not to trust Hecatia.

>>21236953
Fuck I hate how every single fucking chapter ends in a cliffhanger. The pacing for ZUN's manga is atrocious.

>>21237130
Aya is always right

>>21237058

>>21237132
Chapters ending in cliffhangers is pretty common for any type of media.

>>21236983
This but with Hecatia

God okina is so fucking hot

>>21237130
Show some respect to the woman who stopped you from releasing that poor excuse of a tabloid.

PLEASE REVIVE LUNA-CHAN

>>21236953
So apparently crop circles are caused by fairy emergencies? Nue you liar.

>>21236953
i want to suck on piece's perky small tits

>>21237218
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fairy_ring

Okina really is the best sage.

>>21237231
Kasen is good too. Yukari better get a new form. She's becoming old and busted.

>>21237224
>https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fairy_ring
huh? interesting

>>21237257
>>21237224
This was actually brought up in an earlier chapter.

>>21237257
>>21237262
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fairy_circle_(arid_grass_formation)
This too

we need a fairy queen

>>21237224
>>21237267
Whoa, that's a lot of living onahole.

>>21237202
After actually finishing the chapter though I really get the sense that Hecatia is actually just feeding Reimu and Marisa a bunch of bullshit, especially after what Clownpiece said.
Either way, the chances the events of both manga are going to be relevant in the new game is looking super likely. Having "Oni Shaped Beast" as part of the title and with the whole thing being about animal spirits I would be surprised if Kasen is somehow not involved. Additionally from VFiS we can at least assume the reason we'll be fighting fairies in Hell in the game is because of the events here. Also looks like Okina is finally about to be relevant outside of HSiFS, so itll be interesting to see what she does. I think it safe to say that the main culprit behind this wont be revealed until the game comes out and that all of the different point of the Hell subplot will converge there.

>>21237297
This is all very exciting and everything, but it feels bittersweet. It seems like VFiS is going to end as well, which means there won't be an ongoing Touhou manga anymore. I imagine ZUN will make another, as he seems to enjoy it, but I really wonder when and what sort it would be.

Based Fairy Defense Force

>>21237344
Reimu is trying to defend her daughter Sunny. And Uncle Marisa will have no one to molest if Luna disappears.

>>21237333
>but I really wonder when and what sort it would be
Maybe he'll focus on other residents as well? There's a lot of characters that need more screentime.
Since they're playing quite a role in WaHH, maybe focus on Komachi or Tenshi?

>>21237356
I could see Tenshi but not Komachi. More likely, though, is that it will be an original character. Every manga so far has introduced new characters as major or main characters. SSiB had the sisters, Fairies had... (of course) the fairies, WaHH is about Kasen, FS is about Kosuzu.

>Luna trips in mid-air
so cute, so cute SO CUTE!!!

>>21237333
Yeah it does seem like VFiS is going to be ending too, BUT lets not forget that it ended 3 times before. I think chances are that if it does end then itll resume at some point like it has in the past. I think the main reason for this is that ZUN just wants to slow down and focus more on his family. These next 4 months are going to be very exciting though.

>>21237377
>These next 4 months are going to be very exciting though.
why

>>21237404
Because we get the demo for the the new game next month and its full release in August, WaHH will be ending in either June or August, VFiS is currently at a climax point and could be ending in the next few months, and in general all of this buildup over the past year or so if finally reaching its conclusion. All of it should be wrapped up by the end of August.

>>21237058
Wouldn't it be anticlimactic if instead of another faiy game, Cirno just pushed her off the wheelchair?

>>21237440
Okina isn't even the villain though, someone from Hell is. Fairy Wars II will be against Dark Eternity.

S-say, she's still perfectly safe and sound, right /jp/? There's no way my precious fairy daughter could have been turned into a rock. She must have just overslept and missed the meeting, right?

>>21237541
she probably turned into a rock, she shot out an insane amount of bullets in stage 3 and I think her for making both my PIV and my dick rock hard.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=la19Vbuoinc

>>21237541
She probably used too much power during HSIFS. She shot out a ton of bullets and made my PIV and penis grow in size immensely.

also stage 3 HSIFS is my favorite stage in any game. zun lets you go wild with release and dares you to get your PIV as high as possible, while beautiful music plays and you find a friendly komainudog who wants to play with you.

>>21237541
She probably used too much power during HSIFS. She shot out a ton of bullets and made my PIV and penis grow in size immensely.

also stage 3 HSIFS is my favorite stage in any game. zun lets you go wild with release and dares you to get your PIV as high as possible, while beautiful music plays and you reach the Hakurei Shrine and find a friendly komainudog who wants to play with you.

>GFW starts playing as you read the last page
>eyes start tearing up

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fjz1_AmkBAA

>>21237620
gfw was stressful to play, the gimmick made it so ZUN could throw insane cards at you since you could ice barrier every X seconds

>>21237629
the long haired one is my new wife

>>21237631
>arcade games plays like arcade

>>21237638
who quote?
the ice barrier allowed ZUN to increase pattern density, so you basically have to go at 100% and hope you dont die every 5 seconds on Lunatic
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bNbJV_cLr9U&feature=youtu.be&t=634

Okina doesn't really think she could win against an onahole army, does she? Cirno alone would be able to take care of the hag.

>>21237629
Get the long haired one to dress up like star and then fuck 2 stars at the same time.

>>21237695
They are weak ass slugs, Cirno only beat Okina because of the season fuckery last time. I bet the next chapter will start off with the fairies already being beaten.

>>21237695
Those fairies are small fries

>>21237728
okina let her win
if her past actions are anything to go off of, okina will let the fairies win and give them useful information, or even give them a powerup. she's kind and respects brave people

>>21237732
>>21237728
What about Clownpiece, though?

>>21237749
clownpiece was beaten by the protagonists of LOLK, who aren't close to Okina's power.

>>21237749
Clownpiece is still a fairy. If Okina wanted to she could instakill all of them by taking away their life force.

Crazy unemployed dancers!

>>21237786
They still work for Okina though

>>21237749
No reason to assume she's any stronger than Cirno, The whole reason she was strong in LoLK was because of Junko's gimmick

>>21237728
Well, nobody really "beat" Okina.

>>21237829
>The whole reason she was strong in LoLK was because of Junko's gimmick
This is false and spread by idiots, no offense. Junko's power doesn't change strength. She refined Clownpiece and the other fairies into beings of pure lifeforce. This made her and the other fairies like fucking poison to LUNARIANS, who freak out at impurity (life, usually, as impurity makes them entirely mortal and makes them die). The reason Clownpiece says nobody should've been able to beat her was that that's what she was told, and it was true assuming her opponents were Lunarians. However, her opponents weren't, and they still admitted she was a strong fairy, it was just that her lifeforce had no affect on them. This is also why Sagume recruited the heroines.

Clownpiece is an entirely different level from Cirno. She's a hell fairy, and any hell beings are powerful (confirmed by Hecatia). Cirno is so weak she can't even beat a flashlight-wielding Marisa.

>>21237732
>>21237756
Okina is wheelchair-bound, and the fairies are a few feet away from her. They could shove her off the chair before she'd be able to do weird sage stuff.
Such is the life of a cripple.

>>21237944
Woah dude that's comedy gold. You should post that on funnyjunk.

>>21237952
I half-expect ZUN to go through with it while Reimu battles whoever actually caused the incident in the next game.

>>21237058
Hotwheels Okina is going to lose to a bunch of faeries.

>>21237920
You do know that Cirno is called unusually strong too, right? So strong that she could stray from the path of fairies and die for real.

Until there's a battle between the two showing a discrepancy on power, Clownpiece is next to Cirno in the fairy rankings at best.

>>21237970
it's not funny when you have to repeat it more than three times

>>21237975
No moron, Cirno is notably strong but "for a fairy from Gensokyo". Eiki warns her because in her position, basically, even becoming "kind of vaguely threatening" means she isn't really a fairy anymore.

By the way, the relevant part of that interview you obviously haven't read (as if you need to read it when the protagonists already admitted Clownpiece is absurdly strong)

>>21237975
That's not even remotely true. Clownpiece is strong compared to Hell dwellers. The protags went all out in LOLK and beat her. Meanwhile Marisa just plays with Cirno in GFW and holds back, and Cirno is pushed way beyond her limits.

>>21237988
>Eiki warns her because in her position, basically, even becoming "kind of vaguely threatening" means she isn't really a fairy anymore
Talk about understating Cirno's strength and misrepresenting Eiki's words.
>Clownpiece is absurdly strong
Because her power was refined by Junko's, which Clownpiece herself admits DID increase her power to that which exceeds a kishin. And the only one that notes anything about Clownpiece's power is Reisen, Marisa doesn't even say a thing about her power and she's the one person that would note any absurd difference in the earth fairies and Piece. Marisa doesn't seem to think she was anything special.
>>21238003
>Clownpiece is strong compared to Hell dwellers
Are hell dwellers strong on average compared to surface dwellers?

>>21238062
>Because her power was refined by Junko
No you fucking idiot, I already told you that's wrong, or do you not get why Sagume didn't fight the fairies and sent humans instead?
>Clownpiece herself admits DID increase her power
No she doesn't. Fuck are you talking about?

===
But I heard that as long as we fairies,
symbols of life, controlled this place,

the people of the moon wouldn't
be able to do a thing.
===

The closest you have is this
===
They say that a refined fairy's energy
exceeds even that of a kishin.

Taste the impurity of life and death
that the moon's people hate so much,
===
But as you can see this refers to impurity, which Lunarians can't stand.

>Are hell dwellers strong on average compared to surface dwellers?
/If you aren't aware of the information we know, you really don't have any right to argue anything. This is, again, something Hecatia, the STRONGEST KNOWN CHARACTER has stated.

Finally
>Talk about understating Cirno's strength and misrepresenting Eiki's words.
Uh, how? Your screencap is just a longer version of my summation of her judgement. You need to keep in mind that "great power" for a fairy means nothing, and the concern Eiki had was that she was going to lose the natural ties she had and thus possibly die. If you want ANOTHER source saying Cirno is strong "for a fairy", there's Akyuu and Marisa, but demonstrably of course she's always been weak.

And Marisa being lax even against tough opponents is a huge aspect of her character.

>>21237695
When did Cirno become so cool?

Is clownpiece actually strong or it was just a LoLK gimmick?

>>21238106
see pic >>21237988

She's the second in command to canonically the strongest person in Touhou.

>>21238111
Are you implying she's potentially the second strongest in Touhou?

>>21238119
No, just that she's strong enough that a character who values strength from a world that values strength felt she was worth recruiting.

The second tier as far as we know for certain would be "any Lunarian", followed by Celestials, followed by the weird youkai and gods.

Okina on a wheelchair instead of Yukari?! Blasphemy!

>>21238128
Read SCoOW.

I hope they will bring up Eternity's backstory and her possible conflict with Okina in the past, but of course ZUN would never do something that interesting.

>>21238241
Maybe Eternity will team up with Clownpiece and use her power to take down Okina just as the fairies are on the verge of defeat, and thus tie up all the loose threads from previous chapters.

>>21238241
Eternity is fighting Okina, what else do you want?

>>21238298
That's not gonna happen.

I wish Okina would give me a job

So who's the bad one here? Okina? Hece? Someone we don't know?

>>21238526
Hecatia didn't cause the situation but she's taking advantage of it in a sinister way. Okina didn't cause it, Cirno is just dumb. It's someone from Hell or Eternity.

>>21238526
Clownpiece. Heca is just trying to do her job. Okina didn't do anything even according to the fairies, the fairies just exhausted themselves. Clownpiece is outright betraying her master, and being a traitor is one of the most villainous things you can do.

>>21238526
Someone we don't know.
Hecatia and Okina are innocent. As said, Heca is just trying to take advantage but is not the culprit.

What bothers me is Okina. She's using a fucking wheelchair, and I don't think it's for the memes. In my opinion, what's happening to the fairies also affected and weakened Okina, and she'll reveal it so the fairies can fix it.

>>21238311
More about her backstory as a goddess.

>>21238577
Okina is just Nyarlatotep from early Persona games.

Local god narratively now has to get put in the dumpster by some fairies for Gensokyo to survive

It's not too late to come crawling back to Yukari, keeners.

>>21238123
Lunarians are lower than Celestials, the moon is a not-completely-pure part of Heaven.

>>21238649

It'd be cute to have a game where you control a group of fairies instead of a single character and your lives instead of being represented like usual are represented by how many fairies you have in your group, which make your hitbox bigger though.
No idea how you'd balance this idea to make it fun though.

God I wish it were me.

I don't give a shit that Okina is a cripple, why is she flat now? Didn't ZUN explicitly tell Azmaya to ditch the loli Okina and replace her with a mature woman in WaHH?

>>21238722
slut

>>21238937
My guess is that she only looks flat ftom certain directions, because that happened with Kasen for example

I claim this onahole.

>>21237132
The only problem is months between chapters.

>>21238937
I think that has more to do with Hirasaka's inability to draw mature women. He can do juicy loli tho.

>>21238649
They are pretty much the same thing but moonies also have their super tech while celestials are lazy fucks.

>>21237786
I honestly forgot they existed.

>>21237344
Just imagine the turmoil if Gensokyo's sex toys just disappeared like that.

>>21238937
Busty Okina was a mistake, Hirasaka was just correcting an error.

>>21238649
The thing about Celestials is, like, "basically invincible" whereas Lunarians are known for displays of power. They can also be offed by kishin

>>21238937
Hirasaka.

ZUN cares more about WaHH and FS depictions because they're visually closer to some sort of canon

>>21239067
We have only seen one Celestial (as opposed to 3 top-level Lunarians), and I'd say the ability to level Gensokyo to the ground with an earthquake is a pretty solid display of power.

>>21239075
That has more to do with a certain stolen artifact, though.

Characters like Yorihime are simply unmistakably broken on their own.

>>21239105
Manipulating the Earth is Tenshi's ability, not the sword's.

>>21239105
Summoning gods to do stuff for her is hardly what I would call "on her own".

>>21239122
Reimu is capable of the same thing but with less training is less capable.

>>21239117
I'm pretty sure that isn't true.

>>21239130
>I'm pretty sure that isn't true.
That's because you've never bothered to read her profile before arguing.

>>21239130
Well now, never mind. I was sure it was all the sword. Huh.

>>21239136
I played the game and yeah, never read her profile. I guess I just got the impression it was the sword since she uses it even when using earth attacks on SWR

>>21238937
Hirasaka is incapable of drawing mature looking people
ZUN probably saw what he did to Hecatia and realised it was a lost cause
Okina looks better than Hecatia at least, although that's probably because she's got thicker clothing

わよん

>>21238937
pads

>>21239159
>ZUN probably saw what he did to Hecatia and realised it was a lost cause
I see nothing wrong here. This chapter also had some quality smug.

>>21239263
Super annoying.

>>21239000
>>21239070
>>21239159
>Hirasaka is incapable of drawing mature looking people
Memers who didn't even read the chapter, possibly also blind
Take your anti-Hirasaka hateboner to the hag thread

>>21239359
Hecatia isn't exactly my idea of "a mature woman". Also that doesn't really answer why Okina looks like that.
>anti-Hirasaka hateboner
Stop sounding like a child. If you disagree just say so.

>>21239263
Goddammit she needs rape doujins.

>>21239263
Is this how Kanmari was created?

>>21239263
What's her alignment /tg/?

>>21237541
Yeah, she is perfectly safe and sound crushed under my 120kg NEET body, don't worry I'll dispose of her soon in some bushes while she respawns.

>>21238526
Its whoever the Stage 6 boss of the new game is. Someone we dont know yet.

>>21238937
>>21239070
>>21239159
ZUN doesnt want there to be one specific way a character is to be viewed. Why do you think he has chosen so many different artists with greatly different styles for the printworks over the years. The claim that he cares mores about WaHH is pretty baseless and only based on Azuma Aya saying "ZUN made me do this" on twitter that one time. Keep in mind Hirasaka has also tweeted about how he meets with ZUN to discuss how the next chapters are to be handled. He told Azuma Aya to make Okina look more mature in WaHH because thats what he wanted for that specific manga interpretation. Keep in mind that he himself drew Okina flat in her game portraits, while in the same game giving Nemuno some clearly sizeable tits.

>>21240120
Okina is also wearing two or maybe three layers of clothing.

>>21240250
Either way she's wearing the same exact clothing in all of her appearances. If it was actually that important ZUN would've made sure to give her tits in his depiction, since he's proven he can do it in the same game with Nemuno.
What it really comes down to is that ZUN doesn't enforce consistency and he doesn't do it for a reason. Its a matter that really isn't that important and I don't think he expects us to care so much about such small details.

>>21239681
With Zeus please

>>21240498
Did ROKI just make that doujin cover to mess with us? I need HECKatia getting her breasts manhandled and raped ASAP.

>>21240498
>>21240569

>>21240604
Hnnnggg muh dick.
I need to see her breasts being abused and left covered in bite marks and coated with semen.

>>21239070
>FS depictions
>they're visually closer to some sort of canon
Fuck off, retard.

>>21239802
Chaotic Neutral.

>>21239802
Neutral Evil

I've gotta say, them figuring out what actually was the problem was really good. Kinda proud of the little faeries.

>>21241396
They didn't figure out anything though. Cirno is retarded and the real culprit is still out there.

>>21241465
Too be fair their conclusion was a good one any sane person would make when presented with the currently known facts.

I've never liked the fairy manga and Hirasaka.

I always liked the fairy manga and Hirasaka.

I sometimes like the fairy manga and Hirasaka.

I usually like the fairy manga and Harasaki

Do I like the fairy manga and Hirasaka?

>>21241995
Yes you like the fairy manga and Hirasaka.

>>21240779
Meanwhile Moe still draws for official games and Aya draws for official material outside of manga and you're still complaining about wings.

>>21242050
And I'm still right.
Fuck Moe.

>>21242050
>still
Hirasaka still has the fairy manga.

>>21242050
I don't like Moe.

>>21242093
Right about what?

>>21242099
If anything's clear it's that ZUN is a bit more lax with him on character designs. We know he isn't with Aya.

>>21242104
I don't care.

>>21242133
>Right about what?
She's a faggot, her senseless alterations to ZUN's character designs are not and should not be considered canon and she should stick to her shitty lawyer manga if she so badly wants to dictate what characters are meant to look like.

>>21240498
I'd rather see her raping cute boys.

>>21242133
>If anything's clear it's that ZUN is a bit more lax with him on character designs. We know he isn't with Aya.
We don't know any of that, stop forcing your meta headcanon

>>21242341
And I'd rather you'd go back to /trash/.

>>21242459
Yes we do? Aya has outright said he's controlling with his direction on her art, and more recently we know he told her how to draw Okina. Meanwhile Hirasaka, who isn't quiet, hasn't said anything about direction and his artstyle is mostly consistent. Moe is silent overall.

>>21242307
Please wear a rope.

>>21242307
>>21242459
Here we go again. People who literally forget that ZUN looks over everything and gives his approval before shits released.
If, for example, Aya wasnt supposed to ever have wings you would think that he would have put a stop to it over a decade ago, especially if he's that demanding (which seems to be a bit exaggerated). Also it would makes sense that a Tengu, who can shapeshift, could change between having and not having wings.

>>21242495
Its like I said before, ZUN simply doesnt want there to be one specific way too see a character. He made Azuma Aya redraw Okina because he wanted her to look more womanly in WaHH. Meanwhile, for example, everything in VFiS is geared twords a more cutesey/loli look. The idea that he is ONLY strict with Aya is baseless, especially since we know he meets with his other artists to discuss things the same exact way. There is a reason he works with so many different artists with very differing styles. He has different visions and ideas for his different works and the artists reflect that (such as Hirasaka's style fitting the more playful tone of the fairies manga and Moe's style fitting the serious tone of FS). Its not supposed to be consistent. ZUN himself didnt make an effort to draw Okina with breasts despite being perfectly capable, which gives reason to believe that he wanted her to in such a way specifically in WaHH. ZUN is the king of inconsistency.

Looking "more mature" doesn't mean having bigger tits. When characters look more mature in Jap stuff, they just have narrower, higher set eyes.

>>21242495
You're wrong. Get over it.

>>21242660
Oh great, these retard-tier arguments again.
>People who literally forget that ZUN looks over everything and gives his approval before shits released.
Implying ZUN can't simply go "eh that's good enough", especially with artists with stricter deadlines like Harukawa who had to pump out a chapter monthly. Just because ZUN can be strict doesn't mean he necesarily is with literally everything, nor that he won't impose different standards of strictness on different artists. Like anon said, look at Hirasaka. Or like you yourself said two sentences afterwards, ZUN may not be as stringent as you're trying to claim and thinks it's, again, good enough. Which doesn't make it any more canon than alphes' HM art for Futo.
>Tengu, who can shapeshift
Nice headcanon. Remember the part of the Kojiki where kappa are described as being cute pre-teen girls who shoot lasers? You can't assume the Touhou equivalent of any particular species has a particular trait associated with that species just because they're the Touhou equivalent of said species. Not when it's NEVER mentioned within the series, not when the majority of official artists (which includes ZUN, by the way) have NEVER portrayed tengu with wings, not when ZUN has shown to be capable of drawing wings but has NEVER drawn any for any of his tengu characters.
>ZUN simply doesnt want there to be one specific way too see a character
That's about character personalities, not the character designs, autismo. The differences you mention are either artist-caused or super minor, and neither is indicative that ZUN has the attitude you mention. And if he does, then he's still to explain Futo in HM, which according to your shit logic, is a totally canon representation of her character and canonizes her ability to change hair colors like she's a fucking chameleon.

I hate wingtards so much.

>>21243031
I don't get the idea behind bringing weaklings like Daiyousei, nameless fairy 1 and nameless fairy 2

Whoa, argument over wings. Haven't seen that one in a while.

>>21243043
Well someone need to be the meat shield for Cirno to reach Okina.

>>21242830
>Implying ZUN can't simply go "eh that's good enough", especially with artists with stricter deadlines like Harukawa who had to pump out a chapter monthly.
The problem here is that its still baseless to say who he is or isnt presumably more strict with. Realistically he probably has the same standard for every one of his artists. Also keep in mind he considered Moe to be "professional" in her work, unlike Aya or Hirasaka who are merely fans given a big opportunity and aren't quite on the same level so there is no reason to assume her tigher deadline effected how strict he was. Using a single tweet by Aya saying "ZUN made me do this" as your whole argument of her art being more "canon" is retarded. There is literally no other evidence of it being true. If wings weren't supposed to ever exist ZUN would have put a stop to it when Genji Asai first did it over a decade ago. He has never corrected it and so we have no reason to believe it a wrong interpretation.
>Nice headcanon.
I dont think there is any reason to assume that they cant. The Tengu of lore are capable of it, and so its reasonable to believe that Touhou Tengu can as well given that ZUN has never stricken abilities from youkai. But sure, I wont assume if it makes you happy.
>Not when it's NEVER mentioned within the series, not when the majority of official artists (which includes ZUN, by the way) have NEVER portrayed tengu with wings, not when ZUN has shown to be capable of drawing wings but has NEVER drawn any for any of his tengu characters.
Again, it seems to be a case of either way being fine. If it was actually wrong of her to have wings, ZUN would put a stop to it. Its been like 15 years and he hasn't, so he seems cool with it. He's approved it multiple times.
>That's about character personalities, not the character designs, autismo.
He wouldn't work with so many different artists that all do things differently if that wasn't the case, also personalities really dont change aside from Reimu. He doesn't even keep his own designs consistent.
>The differences you mention are either artist-caused or super minor, and neither is indicative that ZUN has the attitude you mention.
Even if thats the case, you have no evidence to the contrary.
>then he's still to explain Futo in HM
Thats also the most egregious example, and you can go against my claim all you want but it doesnt change the fact neither of us actually have evidence of what ZUN thinks or if he said it was okay. I assume he did because in general we know he took a more controlled approach with other artists after SSiB because so much stuff was fucked up. SSiB is the only case where we know things aren't right because he not only mentioned it but went into detail about it in Strange Creators.

Also again please explain Okina. You say Aya should never have wings because ZUN never drew her with them yet ZUN also never drew Okina with a chest. If it was actually so important than he would have drew her with some tits because we know for a fact he is capable, just like he's capable of drawing wings. We only know ZUN wanted Azuma Aya to mature her up for WaHH, and as much as you hate "headcannon", you are basically creating your own headcannon about how ZUN handles things with his artists. Fact of the matter is that we simply don't have a clear idea so this argument is a farce.

>>21243158
Okay. If all the other artists are in the same tier to you then let's just look at what ZUN is doing. Oh look no wings.

The thing with using the argument of "ZUN never stopped it so he doesn't mind" is that it doesn't automatically equate to "ZUN never stopped it SO IT MUST BE CANON AAAABSOCKIRFRER". He didn't stop Futo's brown hair. The reason is irrelevant, it happened and it happened under his watch. Are you going to start spamming that Futo has chameleon abilities which are CANON? With your logic, you could - it doesn't matter that nothing supports such a thing except an erroneous detail which is only consistent with itself. But no one else would, because it'd be fucking retarded. Now we have shit-wing Aya. Nothing supports such a thing except obviously-erroneous details that are only consistent with a couple of artists, none of which are ZUN. But since, as established earlier, you ARE a retard, you're here spamming that it's somehow the truth.

Kappa are turtle monsters with a beak and a shell. Nitori has no such beak or such shell. Again, only a total secondary would equate the IRL youkai with the Touhou interpretation of those youkai. Just the mere fact that their looks don't match the original depictions a good 95% of the time should tell you that they're not the fucking same. Hell, if Aya is supposed to be as 1:1 with the IRL version of tengu as you claim then would you please tell me where her extra large nose is? Because I don't see it. Oh it isn't there? No it's not, is it. It almost makes you think they're not meant to be exact copies, that ZUN takes creative liberties with his interpretation of youkai because Touhou Project is not meant to be a fucking documentary. But no, only someone with three-digit IQ would think that, right?

He works with different artists on different manga because different manga have different tone and the different art is suited to that different tone. YOU FUCKING SAID THIS YOURSELF. It has fuck-all to do with character designs, which are consistent between all three manga barring, again, minor details and Moe trying to feel like a special snowflake by altering ZUN's Aya design. And do you want to know what's even better? VFiS and WaHH's take on Aya is actually consistent with ZUN's. You know, the guy that actually designed all of these characters. ZUN has never drawn Aya with wings (there's some consistency for you), Hirasaka has never drawn Aya with wings, Aya has never drawn Aya with wings.
>you have no evidence to the contrary
You're making the claim, you prove your claim has any substance you son of a bitch.

>neither of us actually have evidence of what ZUN thinks
You sure love claiming that ZUN follows your philosophies that conveniently also allow you to claim Aya has wings for someone who would say this.

>Also again please explain Okina
Sure. Breasts are a minor detail. The fact that you're making such a big deal about whether Okina has A breasts or B breasts or whatever the fuck breasts and trying to give them the same importance of a character design feature as prominent as wings betrays all of your major malfunctions.

Okina won

the boobie contest.

>>21243333
>Okay. If all the other artists are in the same tier to you then let's just look at what ZUN is doing. Oh look no wings.
Wheres Okina's tits then? ZUN didnt draw those either. Again, you have 0 evidence of artists being treated differently.
>The thing with using the argument of "ZUN never stopped it so he doesn't mind" is that it doesn't automatically equate to "ZUN never stopped it SO IT MUST BE CANON AAAABSOCKIRFRER".
It literally does. If its in a canon work then yes ill take it as canon unless ZUN himself says otherwise. Touhou has plenty of inconsistency and i just kinda deal with it instead of getting mad.
>Again, only a total secondary would equate the IRL youkai with the Touhou interpretation of those youkai. Just the mere fact that their looks don't match the original depictions a good 95% of the time should tell you that they're not the fucking same. Hell, if Aya is supposed to be as 1:1 with the IRL version of tengu as you claim then would you please tell me where her extra large nose is
I do equate them because its what they're specifically based on. Of course they dont look alike but ZUN has never made their abilities different (which was my point). Also of course Aya wouldn't have a long nose because she's a Crow Tengu, not a Long Nose Tengu. The distinction is made in SoPM.
>YOU FUCKING SAID THIS YOURSELF. It has fuck-all to do with character designs
The characters designs reflect the tone.
>minor details and Moe trying to feel like a special snowflake by altering ZUN's Aya design.
Source? Evidence?
>You're making the claim, you prove your claim has any substance you son of a bitch.
>You sure love claiming that ZUN follows your philosophies that conveniently also allow you to claim Aya has wings for someone who would say this
I claim it because its my perspective, just like you have yours. Youve been making claims you also cant substantiate. I even said that our arguments are essentially on the same level of factless and so the argument is a farce. Im just not getting angry over it.
>Sure. Breasts are a minor detail
You sure? What if we gave Remilia some D cups? Do you see why this counterargument doesn't work? You cant merely decide what a minor detail is and isnt.

Stop feeding him kudasai.

Bravo what a performance

>>21243475
>Wheres Okina's tits then?
Breasts are a minor detail.
>You cant merely decide what a minor detail is and isnt.
Yes you can. Wings are large, obvious and they even modify a character's silhouette significantly. Especially the way Harukawa draws these hypothetical, non-canon wings. A slightly inconsistent breast size just doesn't match. Hell, I have good reason to believe nobody would have noticed that tiny inconsistency if /jp/ wasn't so horny all the time. Now, if Okina was fluctuating between perflat and "D cups" then you'd have a good point but then that's not what's going on.

>It literally does. If its in a canon work then yes ill take it as canon
Futo confirmed for chameleon hair.
Wingtards, everyone.

>The characters designs reflect the tone.
Prove to me with evidence and facts that you can't make Aya look serious without drawing some fanfic wings on her, I fucking dare you.
Harukawa made Akyuu look serious, she made Yukari look serious, she made Reimu look serious and at no point did she need to slap wings on them. She's LITERALLY changing shit up for NO reason.

>Source? Evidence?
For the changed design? Forbidden Scrollery.
For what the design looks like without her? Let's see ummm how about ZUN's games, pic related

I've spent this entire time destroying all of your arguments and your denial will not change that. So much for not being angry.

Clownpiss in my mouth

>>21243657

Saying FS isn't canon is like saying Kosuzu isn't even real mate lmao

>>21243706
I ctrl+f'd "FS isn't canon" and only got your post. Mate.

>>21243657
>Breasts are a minor detail.
Argumentative.
> Especially the way Harukawa draws these hypothetical, non-canon wings.
Its in the canon works that ZUN approved thus its canon. You are literally sitting here saying that what we are presented with in the canon works arent canon. Genji Asai has also been doing it for like 15 years.
>Futo confirmed for chameleon hair.
Is Hopeless Masquarde canon? Sure is. Yes its a bit egregious of an inconsistency but its in a canon work. Also if you look closely you can still see her normal grey and when you compare to some of the other characters in HM you see that the coloring of the portraits in the game overall are a little weird (perhaps to vibrant?), so its hard to say it flew under ZUN's radar.
>Prove to me with evidence and facts that you can't make Aya look serious without drawing some fanfic wings on her, I fucking dare you.
Alright so this was my bad, I should have said the style in which the characters are drawn. Hirasaka's style fitting the more playful tone of the fairies manga and Moe's style fitting the serious tone of FS for example. Exactly as I said before.
>She's LITERALLY changing shit up for NO reason.
Baseless.
>For the changed design? Forbidden Scrollery.
Again, baseless.
Bro have you ever thought that maybe ZUN gives them a choice and is fine with either one?
>I've spent this entire time destroying all of your arguments and your denial will not change that. So much for not being angry.
Have you though? Have you really? Youre the one trying to say the contents of a canon work aren't canon to dispel the existence of wings.

>>21243798
Whoops, forgot the picture.

Ah yes. The good old "Aya with wings was shown on several covers and other shit for 10 years but ZUN apparently never saw those and also never bothered to proofread them so rogue artists managed to sneak up Aya's wings behind his back all the time." My favorite.

/jp/ - We Take Wings Seriously Around Here

>>21243798
Unironically, objectively, beyond any shadow of a doubt confirming that Futo has chameleon hair.

You are wrong. It's as simple as that.

>>21243872
Ah yes. The good old "ZUN has drawn Aya without wings ever since the beginning and the majority of official artists follow this design like professionals but these two special snowflakes artists don't therefore their altered design is actually the canon one" My favorite.

Does Momiji have wolf ears?

>>21243893
And yet you have alphes here >>21242830 as one of the consistent artist that draw Aya without wings. By your logic he can't be special snowflake.

>>21243883
/jp/ - Shameimaru At Culture

>>21243895
No in SoPM. Yes in fairy manga.
AFiEU shows her with both. Granted it's different artists.

>>21243936
*Aya
Damn it.

>>21243893
Like I said, HM's portrait coloring in general is a bit to vibrant and so some coloring appears off. Hell, look at Koishi. But the fact that it effects more than her gives more reason to doubt that ZUN didn't look at it and give an okay. So as far as im concerned, yes its canon.
>these two special snowflakes artists
Using that term if you're trying to prove a point just comes off as cringey honestly. Also other artists who've worked on canon material like TOKIAME have also given Aya wings.

>>21242830
>hirasaka
?
Then what the fuck is this then?

>>21243929
And I've never called him one. You a retard, son?

>>21243984
Vibrancy and coloring my fucking ass. Her hair is perfectly gray. Go see an optometrist.
>TOKIAME
Oh, it's three artists. Whoopdee-fucking-doo. How many official artists have NOT given her wings, again? And in which side ZUN's own art is on, again? Consistently so, even?

>>21244010
Those are feathers. They may look like wings to a total retard but I can assure they're just feathers. You see, tengu are most commonly associated with crows, so despite Aya's lack of wings, a fact that is apparent in the art, this piece of artwork has some crow feathers to spice it up in a thematically-appropiate way. Please tell me if I'm using words too big for you.

>>21244027
>Vibrancy and coloring my fucking ass
Have you actually looked at the other portraits? It a commonality.

>>21244089
Yeah I'm sure vibrancy can turn plain gray hair into brown with gray and purple highlights. And of course it means Futo is canonically a chameleon too.

You're shitposting or a genuine dumbass. This will be your last (You).

>>21244106
>Yeah I'm sure vibrancy can turn plain gray hair into brown with gray and purple highlights.
Refer back to >>21243811 and >>21244089
if you dont get what im talking about. Alphes did the coloring of the portraits in HM rather weird but since its a commonality with most of the portraits there is no reason to think it ZUN didnt notice.
>You're shitposting or a genuine dumbass.
Notice how nobody else agrees with you. There is literally on reason to be this much of a stickler over something like this. It actively drains the fun out of Touhou to have your kind of attitude.
>This will be your last (You).
Hey thanks!

>>21244027
>And I've never called him one
Strange I never mention that . Only quoted that picture of yours. It's invalid now? Cool.

i wanna fuck hecatia so hard

>>21243043
They're probably more like daiyousei 1, 2 and 3 and are the strongest fairies gensokyo has left besides Cirno and Clownpiece.

>>21244239
Makes sense. If what Eternity said is true, then the fairies standing there have enough reserved power to not go into hibernation.

>>21244434
Wouldn't that also mean the SDM no longer has any fairy maids left since they all got turned into crystals? The more I think about it, there should actually be a lot of powerful youkai who would be upset with the idea of Hecatia stealing all of Gensokyo's fairies.

Local nerds argue over whether a tengu (these never, 0.00%, ever, in any legend, look like pretty girls) that looks like a pretty girl has definitive physical features that she can't change

Very cool haha

>>21244487
As far as SDM is concerned, that might just be a minor inconvenience.
>The more I think about it
Well why do you think Heca went to Reimu first? "The shrine maiden allows it" would probably silent a number of them or divert their anger to her.
Know who I want to see though? Yuuka. I can see her getting less than pleased the flower doesn't seem as lively.

>>21236953
no spoiler pls

>>21246724
Why did you bump this thread?

>>21244774
Good to see she's not a traitor. But a Hell arc would be nice.

>>21248226
>Good to see she's not a traitor
You'd have to be dumb to think Clappy wouldn't have Gensokyo's best interests at heart given how much more she loves it than living back in Hell. I'm really excited to know we'll finally see what New Hell looks like and if it's actually one of Hecatia's or not.

>>21248842
Clownpiece's ARMPITS!!!

>>21248226
How does this artist get away with stuff like that? This is almost TLR tier.

>>21237707
a man of culture i see

>>21249100
It's shopped.

>>21249100
You should be asking yourself how Hirisaka got away with fairies in cute one-piece swimsuits and Clappy with twintails, because they're doing dangerous things to me.

>>21237629
Short-haired Fairy looks like she'd be named Hibiscus Melody (Hibi-chan to her friends) and Long-haired Fairy looks like she'd be named Periwinkle Stream (Peri-chan to her friends).

>>21249268
PUFFY
VULVA!

>>21249100
Didn't you know? ZUN is a lolicon. There's a reason why Hirasaka got three manga as well as a game.

>>21249475
>ZUN is a lolicon
I hope ZUN's daughter will be okay dressing up in only cute, frilly outfits for the rest of her life.

>>21249300
Not bad, those will be their names in my mind.
I hope they'll appear in the next issue.

>>21244434
It doesn't take too much extra power since the Three Fairies are notoriously weak for named fairies, their status effects and combinations are what make them notable. If Lily wasn't hibernating she'd be a more valuable asset for the upcoming fight.

>>21244708

That reminds me, the sunflower field was brought up a couple of times, and the fairies gathered there too. So where the hell is Yuuka?
Oi, Flower Master, the flowers are actually in danger here, so get your pretty ass here quickly!

>>21244708
ZUN has abandoned and forgotten his best protagonist. The sooner we accept this, the sooner we could move on.

>>21237629
Short-haired Fairy looks like she'd be named Hibiscus Melody (Hibi-chan to her friends) and Long-haired Fairy looks like she'd be named Periwinkle Stream (Peri-chan to her friends).

No idea why all my posts were deleted.

Wait, why are there deleted posts? IIRC one of them is just a crop of the manga page.

>>21250800
He probably got banned elsewhere

>>21244753
this piece is so adorable