/jp/ - Otaku Culture

i hope that guy that wanted to nihongo fight is ready

Is it possible to just wake up one day and forget everything you've learned so far? I feel extra dumb today and fear that tomorrow I won't even remember english.

I finally finished Core 6k yesterday. Grinded the last 600 words in a weekend. No regrets though. I'm finally fluent.

>>20819089
That's actually a kind, sweet assessment.

https://komachi.yomiuri.co.jp/t/2014/1230/695013.htm
Lets 行こうぜ and get all these 喪女s

>>20819140
the more japanese u learn the more u forget english becaue its easier to just think and operate in japanese sometimes

>>20819140
Yeah it’s called dementia

So if I'm a NEET that has all day every day to spend learning Japanese, what should I be doing with my time?

>>20819229
learn english

anime (10000 hour w. eng subs and then no/jp subs after)
hentai games (see pic for good 1s)
monguh (or is it maynguh?)
japanese video games in general
this vid https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=45Ekd6KKXpg#t=16

that should be enough to keep u busy

>>20819171
>私は幼い頃からアニメファンで、アニメの男性キャラが心の恋人でした。心の中で夢を作り上げてしまうため、実際の男性とは、なかなかうまく付き合えないし、また男性のほうも、そのような女性を敬遠しますのでね。私のアニメ友達の女性でも、そういう人がいますがこれって「やむを得ない事情」「特殊事情」に入りますか？「もてないから交際経験のない女性」ですよね・・・？たくさんいます、はい。ちなみに、アニメキャラの彼氏や元彼ならたくさんいますけどね。

>>20819229
read and listen to as much as possible of whatever piques your interesante

日本語できない男

>>20819089
Reminder for textbook+anime friends.

OK bros once this is downloaded no 4chan or r*ddit allowed until I finish it, wish me luck

>>20819306
お主 = very good

>>20819306
wheres onushi ?

my girlfriend always calls me 君 when shes annoyed, it's very kawaii

>>20819312
>downloading one third of a game

>>20819306
why do beginners make these images that are of no use to anyone

>>20819268
でぶ

I think 兄上 sounds nice as fuck

>>20819229
follow matt vs japan's advice cuz you are the perfect person for his method

at what stage did you give up lads?
for me? it's gotta be humble/honorific speech

>>20819363
probably reddit weebs who think they're really learning japanese if they study the nuance of pronouns

>>20819379
watch more samurai shit

貴様がゲイな人だから

>>20819379
i didn't give up, but economic/pol shit are cancerous in every language

>>20819428
yea except in japanese you basically have to relearn 30% of vocabulary just to understand or speak this shit

there are like 20 honorific and humble verbs

>counting uses a pretty simple and easy set of words: ichi, ni, san, etc
>these are used for pretty much everything in combination with counter words
>years and months just combine the number with their respective word
>the day of the month uses all these new fucked up words for each one
WHY

lol japanese is epic hard!!!

because the 1st of the month is a big day

>>20819452
lol you haven't even seen the first of it
desu i'm just gonna refuse to ever count in japanese. fuck that shit

>>20819452
JAPANESE

oh we need another daily counting lesson well here u go

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2kcwg4oeS5w#t=31

>>20819470
PEOPLE

nihonjin itt please

imagine you guys having to learn russian or smth lmao

japanese is seriously the easiest language to learn, it's just a vocab grind with no brainpower required

>>20819479
is that new or old he looks younger and less fat

seriously easy yeah lets hear your vocaroo

さくらおう？
てんじゃない？

what do these mean?

it requires no brainpower to use a language at all
just because russian grammar is "hard" doesn't mean shit because no matter how much faggot ass grammar you study you'll never speak it

>>20819507

why would my vocaroo change the fact that all you need to do to learn japanese spend 10k hours watching anime and not using your brain

>>20819526
basically you suck at japanese and you're meming that it's easy gotcha

>>20819509
って

Okay none of these guides really tell me how I should study the stuff in anki. Should I be trying to read the sentences and learn kanji in the sentences as well? It feels like trying to read the sentences is confusing me. One kanji becomes like 5 to learn when reading the sentences. Or should I just ignore the sentences and focus on the word? Then what exactly are the sentences for?

>>20819564
where does it say in the guide to read sentences in anki?

>>20819552

depends what your definition of 'sucks at japanese' is.

im definitely not confused about counters/days of the week/whatever trivial n5 shit you guys are worrying about lol

>>20819567
So ignore them?

>>20819509

逆らおうと言っているのじゃないだろう？

>>20819509
まさか
逆らおう
つもり
じゃないだろ

i wonder why people think they will magically get good at japanese looking at isolated words on flashcards

>>20819587

actually it's likely と思っている

>>20819452
The great thing is that if you see like うさぎ4匹がいた you dont have to go "oh fuck oh shit how do i read that counter grahhh fuckkkkkk" because you just see rabbits and 4 and go oh ok 4 rabbits.
If you're worried about producing then go to int pls

>>20819594
it aint like readin core6k sentences is much better

>>20819613

um i think you'll find it's ４羽

>>20819618
That was bait. Y-yeah.

>>20819564
No you retard, you should learn the Vocabulary only, the sentences merely provide context for words such as "free" or the 500 japanese words that mean "management". After 200 days of daily reviews you'll be able read them anyways.

:(

>>20819613
shamefur display

>>20819507
if u want a vocaroo look no further

https://vocaroo.com/i/s1XiDGLYtzE6

I wonder why people think it's useless to memorize a thousand common words.

>>20819637
noone says that, but learning isolated vocabulary from core without context of sentences makes them more difficult to drill into your head. i did 1000 before i started reading anyways because fuck having to look up every single word in a sentence.

>>20819594
Who does that? By the way you don't know Japanese.
https://my.mixtape.moe/hepqws.mp4

>>20819637
i mean if u want to learn vocab go thru the lists in vjg and memorize those

throwing down a stack of 1000 flashcards is about as retarded as it gets

>>20819561
>>20819587
>>20819593

i gotcha

memorize the most common words with english meanings and cripple your understanding of japanese at the foundation!

>>20819625
okay

even though the core deck focuses on learning one word at a time, the example sentence is probably way better for your improvement

>>20819687
flashtarding is gay but i think learning some objects and verbs and shit is good

it would just help if they are things in ur 周り

>>20819701
use pictures

DJT on suicide watch

>>20819731
oh no no no no no no no.....

how will Jamal ever recover?

>>20819731
woah, anime BTFO by reddit once again

https://my.mixtape.moe/orfidr.mp4

>>20819731
noone on DJT ever claimed that watching anime with english subtitles would improve japanese.

>>20819763
except the one who did last thread

imagine spending extra time to make your cards take an absolute minimum of 10 seconds each

>>20819759

why did you delete/reupload this

>>20819731
Wrong.

here is how a master uses anki https://youtu.be/XPcIwTjQ6uQ?t=67

while we're on the topic, here's my nomination for learnjapanese thread of the week

https://www.reddit.com/r/LearnJapanese/comments/apsewi/slow_communication_news_rewritten_for_those_with/

>>20819771
never claimed that i only ever claimed that it gives u a chance to learn japanese

also wheres that redditors native vet ?

>>20819776
I was rude to the anon I replied to without having read the previous posts to put that one into the proper context and therefore deleted my posts, however I had already recorded the video so I decided to just repost it. That said, nobody is benefitting from people trying to be stuck up smartasses by not properly replying, not like anyone here knows Japanese so that arrogance is misdirected.

So you're all redditors. I'm just going to have to rage quit.

>>20819779
>Reading 56/60
Not gonna make it

>>20819805

not all of us

>>20819687
>>20819722
is that what you did

>>20819805
im not a redditor u can come to my secret discord hideaway where we talk about the finer points of eroge and jack off to the greats like romeo mareni maruto naruto etc

>>20819805
no im a 4channeller who occasionally uses r****t to bring their knowledge and light to djt

>>20819800
>by not properly replying,
i wasnt sure which to tag so i just tagged neither
rest assured i was only trying to be a stuck up smartass with my actual words

>>20819787
actually there are spoken transcriptions of all those articles so that might be better than nhk yeasy or whatever people start off reading

>>20819816
please stop teasing your secret discord it physically hurts to know that it exists and i'm not lurking in it

using anki even just doing no sentences vocab english only isn't gonna cripple your japanese as long as you're reading/listening a lot too. the english definition is like a skeleton in your mind that grows to be fully fleshed out w/ exposure, it just allows you something to hook the smaller details onto

>>20819816
What about SCA-自 and 茄子茸?

Am I really bad at Japanese (Yes, I am) or is it generally much more vague in expressions than English.

>>20819808
It's because anime doesn't teach you how to read.

>>20819835
scaids is ok i liked h20 the best : )

i never heard of the other guy

it's like making a skeleton that has osteoporosis. eventually you gotta kill your english body and transfer your tamasii into a pure japanese body

>>20819849
You may know him from games such as Tsukihime Remake and Fate/Grand Order.

>>20819842
It's probably just the autism.

nope not ringin a bell never heard of those

based

btw im actually mad abt miniskirt arc again so thx for that

>>20819842
there is much more information being relayed in japanese for emotions and nuance that just don't exist in english so you need to learn all that to tell what's going on

>>20819306
Why is it that the japanese have so many words to say the same thing? I'm really struggling with this and I don't think I have ever seen this in another language? Most people seem to be more concerned with homophobes, but they don't really bother me so far. Most of the time they seem to pronounce them even slightly different, which is something I haven't seen in any other language as well.

Anyone have a recipe for tamagoyaki?

in the case of the image in that post they are literally not the same thing u are just uncultured trash

Anyone know where I can watch Japanese TV online live?

imagine not understanding nuance because j-e dictionaries can only provide english equivalents lmfao

>>20819464
this I save counting for last. It's not that important, as long as you kinda understand if they talk about a little or a shit ton, the correct number is mostly not that important.

On the topic of whether or not watching anime with english subtitles actually help improving japanese

Here's some anecdotal "evidence"
But it might just be coincidence.
I'm german and when i was in 8th or 9th grade we had a partner school in the Netherlands. Every person in our class had a partner in one of the schools classes. Anyways, we went on a class trip to the Netherlands and the students from the Netherlands visited us too at a later date.
So, as some of you may or may not know germany is a dub-country. Everything that airs on TV or in cinema here is dubbed in german. Meanwhile in the Netherlands everything on the TV aired in original language with Dutch subtitles. Dutch and German are very similar languages but all the dutch students english skills far exceeded any of our own. When i asked their opinion as to what might be the reason they all said that it's probably due to the fact that they are exposed to english every single day when they watch shit on TV or go to the cinema.

However, it might just be that their school simply focused more on english language and they simply received better education.

/blog

keep in mind i never said anything remotely near the idea that eng subs will "improve" ur japanese

u can draw that conclusion for urself after uve done it for 10000 hours and have put urself in position to succeed in nihongo and just in life generally

>>20819771
and does so in every thread ever after

DJT will never learn and never give up this golden meme. It's basically boku no pico of DJT, only that most people on here actually believe it.

>>20819787
Why does it always have to be news? It's not compelling at all. Why can't they make special anime dubs for mentally challenged people like us.

reminder that you won't be able to start learning japanese until at least N1, everything up to that point is just preparation

which boku are u guys im coco

and in order to even get started on n1 u have to do rtk and core 6k

japanese is all about preparation

>>20819903
I know and it's mostly a joke, but the point still stands. I'm not even a thousand words into core and I think I already know 4 different words for work.

Everyone keeps telling me and I keep reading that learning hiragana and katakana will just take one or two weeks, but literally nothing is sticking for me when I'm doing the production cards.

I had an easy time learning the kanji radicals. Is recognition just that much easier?

Would it be a better idea for me to do recognition cards for hiragana and katakana first and production later? I felt surprise when the decks for that in the cornucopia start with production first.

>>20820008
You don't "know" shit, buddy.

i mena as a flashtard u get what u deserve

>been learning Japanese for nearly three years
>still don't know shit

>>20819916
this is a thing and same goes for Scandinavian countries. However you have to consider that we are basically talking about Germanic dialects here (except for Finnish), so learning them is pretty easy. Also you have to consider that they started watching english as children, when they were probably not even able to read the subs for quite some years. And I think after some time you simple learn the damn language instead of reading the subs all the time. The day you turn them off, is the day you improve. As long as they stay on progress is extremely slow.

>>20820023
just play the gravity game for a while bro


https://quizlet.com/34289851/gravity
https://quizlet.com/82323494/gravity

>>20820008

work, toil, labour, graft

why does english have so many words that mean the same thing ??????

>>20820008
Abandon anki and get into something/anything with context.
Books with audiobook accompaniment, VNs, Anime with J-Subs.

>>20819895
The basic reason is that nihonjin were a more emotional and social race, and those words carry different shades of emotion and rank. You learn those shades over time from context as you're exposed to nihongo. In contrast, English has more grammar to express time and logic relationships.

>>20820045
Well I don't know toil and graft, they are probably either archaic or from some random dialect. Work and labour is the usual Germanic and Latin based game english is playing. This is a very specific problem with english, because it's a union of two languages.

>>20820066
idk if u want the word "emotional" to be the headlining adjective in an explanation for this

>>20820067
holy shit
what do you call all the chinese loanwords in japanese?

>>20820067
>they are probably either archaic or from some random dialect

nope you're just not particularly well read in english. anyway you seemed to have missed the point, which is that none of those are actually the same, much like none of the words you think mean the same thing in japanese are the same

>>20820042
Thanks!

>>20820093
chinese has way more japanese loanwords because japan entered the industrial revolution first

>>20820123
>chinese has way more japanese loanwords

this better be bait

it's not bait it's history

>>20820038

i have been learning for about 3 years as well

do you know enough to read yotsuba or any other manga that has furigana?

IS it wise to take a Japanese course at uni, just to help me out for a semester or two?

わたしは二百ぐらいIQの天才だ。トップ１％のIQ。

>>20820146

the japanese words (mostly translations from english) that came to exist in chinese are outnumbered by 10,000:1 by the loanwards from chinese into japanese that make up like 70% of the language

>>20820093
it's not the same, in english almost every thing has two words, because it's two languages completely mixed together. Every language has loanwords, some more, some less. The japanese even seem to write them mostly in katakana, to stay pure all the way.

>>20820149
Only 2 and i'm still garbage. Plus i'm a neet. Doublekill

>>20820123
that's a fun fact, but what i'm saying is modern japanese is a fusion of japanese and chinese from like 1500 years ago much like english is a fusion of latin and germanic

>>20820150
It might kill your love for the language. I took it for a year and it took me a few years to recover my enthusiasm.

>>20820149

jeez you've been learning for 3 years and you're just now struggling your way through dragonball asking what 逆らおう means. what have you been doing m8

>>20820149
I could probably play something like Earthbound or Pokémon which is just full Kana.

...but the problem with that is, I need Kanji to break up words 'cause it's a fucking nightmare.

>>20820149
aren't you the guy asking how to read 距離 when it had furigana right there on the page the other day? you've been at this for 3 years you say?

>>20820167
I probably also know around 100 or so words... maybe.

>>20820153
>, because it's two languages completely mixed together

japanese is as well you retard. written japanese was originally just chinese for hundreds of years

>>20820143
it's not bait you retard.
back in the day the japanese borrowed the chinese writing system from the chinese, but at a later point the chinese borrowed words the japanese came up with that didn't exist in chinese at the time like philosophy, injection etc.

read it up if you don't believe me, idiot.

chinese vocabulary consists of at least 30% words that was borrowed from the japanese. most chinese don't even know about it (chinese education lol) and they'll get mad if you point it out to them, but it's been proven in history. like i said japanese graduated from the stone age sooner than china

>>20820158
ok didn't really know that. So are there many chinese words they don't write in katakana? I don't know any chinese, but it sounds extremely different. I suspect the japanese pronunciation of those words is on par with their engrish.

>>20820153
>it's not the same
how the fuck is it not the same
japanese doesn't write chinese loanwords in katakana, you just don't think of them as loanwords

>>20820176
I knew about the written part, but the different kanji readings kinda suggest, that it's still very separate.

>>20820163

i am a lazy learner. i don't spend hours on learning japanese

i spend like hour at most per day learning japanese

>>20820198
In my case it's motivation.

Plus I feel pressure inside my head whenever I try to study...

>>20820198
Did you do anki? Do have an idea of how many words you know already?

>>20820179
>chinese vocabulary consists of at least 30% words that was borrowed from the japanese.

sorry you're a retard. i know the history. even if this was true, which it's not, japan consists of literally 50% chinese words.

https://www.jstor.org/stable/23754127?seq=4#metadata_info_tab_contents

https://www.duo.uio.no/bitstream/handle/10852/43028/A-Study-of-Japanese-Loanwords-in-Chinese.pdf?sequence=1

there are between 500-1000 japanese loanwords in chinese

the second study only finds around 120 loanwords in 14 academic papers.

>>20820162

Why would it kill my enthusiasm?

>>20820196
kanji, invented by the chinese, have phonetic components that are the basis of onyomi readings

any onyomi reading is loaned from chinese

http://user.keio.ac.jp/~rhotta/hellog/2013-10-28-1.html

30-50% of japanese is chinese words

>>20820151
信じられなくて天才なるだ

>>20820226
They probably took back the words they gave the chinese in the first place.

that's a huge range in percentage. doesnt sound like a very accurate assessment to me. chances are high that they simply made those numbers up

>>20820187

why are you even posting about this. you clearly have absolutely no clue what you're talking about lol.

they don't write any chinese words in katakana, why the fuck would they? they literally share a writing system dumb@$$

go to wiktionary and type in a random japanese word and you'll see it lists both chinese and japanese.

https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/%E4%BB%A5%E6%9D%A5

>>20820237
可愛らしい

Why is Cure Dolly's voice so weird?

>>20820212

i know enough to read manga, so i don't think i need anki anymore

>>20820236

you're a dumbass. it's just a variation in the words that dictionaries use. some dictionaries have like 500k words and others have 300k.

stop thinking you're smart. your brain doesn't work.

>>20820245
cuz it's behind 7 filters.

>>20820250
lol whatever you say nerd no one believes you and your stupid dictionaries though lmfao

>>20820222
Not him, but in my experience you will basically be doing group textbook exercises all day every time you have class. Be prepared to talk to other Japanese learners in broken ass Japanese and try to keep the pretense that what you're saying makes any sense. It's not really helpful for Japanese and I imagine it's just a huge pain in the ass if your Japanese is on par with the class level. If your Japanese is considerably better, then it's just kind of boring for the most part, probably not going to kill your enthusiasm but the only reason you have to take it is for easy credits in that case.

>>20820235

ok now this is bait.

even the fucking era names like 平成 are literally from chinese classical literature lol

>thinking japan invented anything at all

>>20820245
speech impediment + garbage recording gear + 5$ vocoder software

those percentages give a false impression that 50% or whatever of what you say is chinese

the most common words are all japanese. according to the same studies like 70% of english is non-germanic but the 1000 most common words are like 95% germanic

Me on the right.

>>20820267
me second from the right

>>20820245
to give us a good reason not to learn anything. Honestly I hope that somebody will redo her lessons word by word one day. I simply can't watch it like that and it's very hard to understand.

>>20820263
Is he at least a cute trap?

>>20820266

大和言葉 is essentially 話し言葉 and 漢語 is 書き言葉 this is pretty obvious if you read anything. this distinction also exists in a similar way in english but is far more pronounced in japanese.

>>20820278
he can be cute if u want him to
hes what we call a シュレディンガーのネカマ

>>20820278
nah as far as i know he's a literal degenerate who collects dolls. he did a stream once where he ate some shit with one of those camera overlays that turn you into an anime character (a doll in his case) it was fucking disgusting

>>20820259

I was thinking it could keep me keen and interested in the course because everyone else is dedicating time towards the language. I understand that everyone's Japanese would be shit, but wouldn't it be good considering that it can be corrected by the teacher?

>>20820261
>>thinking japan invented anything at all
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Japanese_inventions_and_discoveries
..also the best steel, glass, and robotics in the world

>>20820294
>best steel

lmao ok thats why they had to fold it 1000 times to even make it sturdy enough to use compared to based damascus steel that requires absolutely no folding and is way better

all japanese made was shit like anime and manga that no1 cares about except nerds

>>20820308
time to stop talking autist

>>20820294

The japanese invented video games

atari, nintendo and sega are all japanese companies

>atari

>>20820330
why's she wearing such an outfit

>>20820322
Pretty sure Atari is American.

>>20820198

1 hour a day for 3 years and you should already know like 10k words at least

>>20820291
You're probably greatly overestimating how much time most students are dedicating towards a language class. I think most of them are doing it because they think just going to the class is enough to make them great at Japanese somehow by year 4.
The teacher probably won't have time to tutor you over every problem in your Japanese, but sometimes they do point out something helpful to you and they can be a good contact for questions. If you want to do it just to have that opportunity, go for it. Don't expect much from the class though.

>>20820308
tfw you learn japanese solely for anime, which is the last bastion of non sjw male entertainment we got. But until the time you are fluent, "they" will have long burned it all down to ashes. It has already started, I can't remember when I have seen the last nipples in anime. Well at least I can re-watch 10k hours of anime in japanese when that time comes.

>>20820333
atarimaejan.

>>20820349
h-hai

>>20820330
stop posting my daughter getting bullied in school

Language learning is like a snow ball you're rolling, whenever you go to school or work, or stop to come to djt, it melts a little. Giving it that last 10% is like giving it 50% more because it's not melting and the bigger the snowball the more snow can stick to it. That's why you're still bad after 3 2-3 years, you're not giving it 100%. tl;dr matt was right

>>20820393
I'm pretty ok after 3 1/3 years though.

>>20820393
It's not a dumb food analogy but it still sounds quintessentially american.

>>20820393
I actually got stuck in a rut last year.

So technically I've been at it for around a year or two.

I need a plan of attack. A good one.

>>20820267
im ur crooked tooth

>>20820393
dont fly too close to the sun icarus kun : )

Language learning is like a strawberry parfait you're eating, whenever you go to school or work, or stop to come to djt, it melts a little. Giving it that last 10% is like giving it 50% more because it's not melting and the bigger the parfait the more of it you can eat. That's why you're still bad after 3 2-3 years, you're not giving it 100%. tl;dr jamal was right

>>20820421
You're beautiful

>>20820417
throw out the notion of attacking or just trying in general and have some fun with a thing from japan without having language be the primary focus

who's jamal

>>20820423
Least intelligent post of the week award material right there.

most likely you

>>20820428
*looks at the ground blushing* ど- どうも

>>20820438
Thanks, I really gave it my all.

read an article once that said if you ever don't know what to say in japanese just say どうも

>>20820456
That's not right, you say まあ

maybe djt would be better if it was 700-1000 posts of どうも then lol

read an article once that said if you ever don't know what to say in japanese just say 別に

actually its the casual but not really cuz ur white and sound like an anime character "いやなんだろう" that really shows that the inside of ur head is rocks

>>20820330
そうｒせ

How does one remove the furigana from a deck all at once? I want to see just the Kanji and whatever other Kana is neccessary to understand the word

imagine just piggin out on the school toilet every day for an entire semester

>>20820493

i already told you this yesterday

>>20820483
rewrite this in english

>>20820493
learn css.

>>20820484
>>20820330
I asked for source.

>>20820498
lolwot m8? you got the wrong guy, but twas a valiant effort

>>20820516

someone asked the exact same question in the last thread

>>20820528
>>20820528
Do you seriously think its impossible for someone to have the same question?
Anyways, I would like to stop wasting time and killing brain cells and just get an actual answer please, perhaps tell me what you said in the last thread if it was such a sufficient answer?

>>20820546
It appears you've got no brain cells left to kill.

>>20820546

it's a very specific and dumb question so i thought it was unlikely but i see there are many retards around

>>20820493
it really depends. If you are lucky there are separate fields e.g. "japanese" and "japanese reading" or something like that. In that case it's "easy", just look for the reference for that field in the html and replace it by the other one. If there aren't many such fields your deck is probably shit (like the vncore for example) and you are mostly out of luck, if you don't want to edit every single card by hand. As far as I remember furigana is made by putting it in such brackets "[]". So for example Hello[furi], would show "furi" above "o". Giving you asking this question I think it's hopless to tell you, that you could in theory manipulate the fields automatically in the database, but since the anki guys have no clue about the simplest database concepts, it won't be that easy even for a seasoned programmer.

>>20820564
How is it so specific? Its just asking how to do something many people would presumably want to do to improve their Kanji
And if its such a dumb question that you answered in a previous thread, then why not just tell me the answer and go on with your day? Is arguing on the internet such a highpoint of your day that you start pointless arguements?

>>20820512
found it https://exhentai.org/g/649729/6f83491904/

>>20820580
Thanks for actually giving an answer. Now I can go back to improving my Japanese instead of my debating skills.

>>20820590
> Is arguing on the internet such a highpoint of your day that you start pointless arguements?

obviously the answer is yes you fool

>>20820580
oh nevermind, you can just remove "furigana" from the script and it won't show anymore. Just look for something like this "{{furigana:Reading}}" and remove "furigana:". A simple google search should have given you the answer in no time, but glad to help.

>>20820580
>If there aren't many such fields your deck is probably shit (like the vncore for example)
What do you mean?

It's pretty insane how RTK lets me memorize complex components just for giving a name to them

lol

>>20820621
Well most decks I found don't have that many fields and are pretty hard to customize that way. I can't really tell you anymore, because it's a long time since I customized my deck. But I think I had the opposite problem. I wanted only hiragana and no kanji and some / many decks don't have separate fields for kana only. So I thought it's the same with kanji and furigana, but turns out that furigana is an actual feature of anki, and it can be easily customized.

>>20820648
I mean I was asking about vncore in particular. It seems to split everything up into as many separate fields as possible, even having different aspects of part of speech as different fields.

>>20820646
what

>>20820646
give us a summary boo

>>20819171
>行こうぜ
Yikes

>>20820597
very cute

>>20820657
Maybe I'm just misremembering or I had an older worse version of it. But I dropped vncore pretty soon and found a much better core6k/10k deck with everything I needed.

>>20820669
What's the problem?

Loving the immersion and vocab mining. Japanese メンヘラ are the cutest thing ever.

>>20820701
Are you thinking of this? https://ankiweb.net/shared/info/1434910726

>>20820720
prolly the "lets 行こうぜ"

When cops find a criminal they're looking for and they yell out "いかぞ" what exactly does that mean there?

stfu noob

>>20820729
Do you mean うごく?

>>20820643
its like training wheels when you take them off you're going to fall a lot, just wait

>>20820720
Why are you talking like an anime character?

rtk more like rtgay lol

>>20819618
>>20819624
https://usagi.siiku.info/e/001kazoekata.html
>ウサギの数え方で「1羽2羽」と数える時「1匹2匹」と数える場合がありますが、どちらも現在では正しいようです。

つまり japanese people dont even know

>>20820741
its definetly いかぞ or いっかぞ　
i think it means like get down on the ground

>>20820729

いたぞ

"he's here" ...?

>>20820754
Oh, I said it out loud and I know what you mean.

I believe it's like "THERE HE IS!"

>>20820760
oh shit youre right, thanks, can't believe i missed that

>>20820752

i know i was taking his piss obviously

>>20820726
this is the one! I presume that the good one is only to be found in the DJT guide? Maybe I will give it a try later. Such a shame, that many good ones have been pulled from ankiweb. This is the first place beginners will look for decks and it's mostly shit.

>>20820765

i can believe it. you need to listen to another 10k hours of eng-subbed anime. if you had you wouldnt make such a simple mistake

>>20820744
Why not?

>>20820778
funny because I had about 5k of eng sub'd anime before I started this and I picked up about 20 words

>>20820797

it's the last 5k that makes the difference fool

>>20820789
馬鹿 !

>>20820812
Who's the anime character now?

>>20820818
>everybody replying to me is the same person

pretty much every premade vocab deck will be shit it's just a starting point to get you into looking at furigana manga whereafter you should delete the premade deck as soon as possible

>>20820823
There are like 3 people here at any given time.

Any good decks for travelling-related vocab? Just stuff that I would see on signs, stores and whatnot

anybody here with a n1 level of japanese have any experience with learning korean? how do they differ and does """""knowing"""""" japanese help?

>>20820776
>https://djtguide.neocities.org/
Which one is the good one? Is it just the core2k/6k one they give you?

you can only learn one asian language well. accept that you fucked up and chose japanese and continue to make progress in it

>>20820845
>Assuming anyone here actually knows Nihongo
I wish I could be as naive as you again, anon

>>20820845
go make a korean thread on /mu/ or sth i dont want to see your filthy posts

>>20820857
>you can only learn one asian language well.
hi matt. why do people say this? you can easy pass n1 be reading murakami and shit in a years time, so why would korean which doesnt even have kanji, tones or pitch accent be impossible?

>愛くるしい

u will never be as good at nihongo as this guy

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eOfAKhrkREo

>>20820845

it's definitely easier to learn korean after japanese

grammar is similar, lots of chinese loanwords etc

i just saw a lets play where a japanese man read 梅酒　as 梅雨（つゆ). there is hope for us

>>20820969

your dumb gaijin ears probably just missed the g sound and thought he said that

>>20820983
https://youtu.be/LelOJEy-1qw?t=521

>>20820993
fuck the timer didnt work 8:40

>>20820969
people like to make fun of the "japanese people cant read japanese" meme but youtube lets players are no joke a workable counterpoint
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MOsKsxMnriU&t=429

this is how you should be reading. dgaf until you get your head around 40k words then you can figure out how to read them all properly

>>20819687
You are dumb and don't know Japanese

i mean if u literally watched any letsplay of a text heavy game ppl misread or cant read shit all the time

the difference is they still know whats up

ye look at the sections where they are just reading str8forward dialogue, they never hesitate. it's just random words you never see like 湛える or 蠱惑 (which isnt even in microsofts IME lol)

those words aren't hella rare or anything i bet 10000 yen if you were a native you wouldn't hesitate to make fun of her
i know all of you are seikaku warui except jamal

>>20821082
I read that as 堪える. I've been studying/reading for nearly a decade, I guess getting past that 98% wall is impossible after all.

>>20821100
>aren't hella rare
>isnt even in the IME

lol stfu nerd. just because you read stupid bullshit all the time doesn't make it rare.

i guarantee most japanese, who are just fuckin 社畜 and barely read anything except LINE news and instagram posts, would be able to read them

>>20821119
it's in my IME, i don't know why it's not in yours
the point was you're a hypocrite for putting dumb natives on a pedestal

>>20821147

no-ones putting natives on a pedestal, but people say dumb shit like "durr japs cant actually read so its fine if i cant either" when they have no problems reading except random obscure kanji

>save it for the start of the next thread id be happy to run u up the flagpole then
I am here

How do I create an anki deck out of subtitle files?

>>20821187
>no reply
yappari

>>20821232
Transform the subtitle file into something that can be imported into anki, like tab separated fields: word \t reading \t meaning

who were u again

>>20821232
subs2srs is the easiest. Voracious video player also exports into Anki format I think.

Anyone have a japanese azw3 of Norwegian Wood? I heard it's not that hard and I like Murakami.

it is one year since i started learning japanese today ask me anything

genki?

>>20821410
How many books have you read?

>>20821407
I dont but jsyk that book is probably his most off-brand one which doesn't make use of an surrealism or weird urban adventure shit at all
Still p good tho

>>20821410
could you please make a vocaroo of you reading this?

>>20821418
if you only mean actually read cover to cover books then 3 novels at ~250 pages each and a light novel at about the same. most of my reading up until quite recently was just reading half through an LN and getting really sick of it or just manga so its not much i guess

>>20821410
could you please make a vocaroo of you reading this?

>>20821410
could u plz make a vocaroo of u reading this ?

I am gay.

le vocaroo onegaishimas

>>20821435
https://vocaroo.com/i/s1qwPTOeASNf
im only doing this one cause one is enough to hear that my accent and reading speed arent perfect. i know its shamefur and will start learning pitch accent very soon

wow someone actually did it

I've been trying to get Aozora books on my Kindle using AozoraEpub3, but the furigana isn't transferred over and it looks like pic related.

Does anyone know how to get the furigana to stick for epub/mobi conversion?

>>20821524
?

remember that guy with the epic kaiki voice who did >>20821463 once? that guy was cool

>>20821531
Nevermind- found out it wasn't a problem. It works on the kindle. Just this stupid ebook reader I'm using on windows doesn't register it.

>>20821463
this 1 has 全員 in it no fuckin thanks

>>20821507
pitch accent really isnt ur problem u actually just read like someone who doesnt know japanese thats the worst part of it otherwise good ish job

独身の身に身と書いて独身

>>20821649
what does that even mean though? i agree however, nobody can get to "knowing" japanese in a year, or at least i have found zero cases of it on youtube. For example https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mQep4ULFhNM which is after a year for him

>start reading a manga to being the adventure of read more
>get like 3 pages in at most before
>rage quit because fuck this I suck and I feel like an illiterate moron that is learning nothing and just getting frustrated
Would there be any value for someone like me in just taking some manga that has furigana on everything, and just sitting down and reading it through? Not giving a fuck about what nay of it means or what I don't understand and just read the hiragana/katakana from page 1 to the last page just to actually feel like I'm reading even if I don't get it? And then go back later and try and read it slower and more focused on learning?

>>20821667
i actually said that wow

>>20821678
that guys visibly reading off something
also whats up with his teeth

>>20821678
right i can tell u cant really feel what some of the shit means and its reflected in ur voice its different from what ppl pushing "studying" ""pitch accent""" say

>>20821679
There is a middle ground between just pronouncing the kana and killing yourself trying to understand every little thing. Always try to understand, but move on quickly when you don't. Everyone was an illiterate moron when they started.

>>20821693
what would you recommend doing and also can i get a vocaroo of you reading the same thing to make sure it works

i dont do nerd shit so i can only tell u its a lesson learned in time and how much time depends on the quality of input and ur ability to absorb

also i havent done one of these page reads in a while maybe its time for a new installment

but im not gonna do it right now i need like 10 hours to prepare and rehearse and do several dozen takes

Is this just supposed to be a slurred そんあ? I can't find an actual word with this spelling in the dictionary

Has anyone gotten AnkiConnect to work with yomichan on firefox? It suddenly stopped working yesterday. I've tried everything: restarting my computer, reinstalled anki, reinstalled AnkiConnect and so on.

>>20821769
might be dude prospects look pretty good on that

>>20821780
unintall anki
install readmore

>>20821769
しょうでしゅね

>>20821780
What does it look like in your addons menu

>>20821830

>>20821836
about:addons

>>20821843
I'm not sure what you mean, but this is what it looks like in firefox.

>>20821766
can i see one of the previous installments

>>20819388
かたじけない

>>20819388
あたしのごせんぞさまが

さむらいだったよ

If I stop masturbating my mind will be clearer than before and I'll definitely get better at learning nihongo. Currently on my 2nd day and I just finished this chapter of LN that I'm currently reading faster than before.

>>20822316
If I do that I start tabbing out every 5 minutes and look at porn.

I fucking hate this shit so damn much. Its just one big guessing game to try and find out which part of it is the words/conjugations/particles.
Pic related are just a few examples. Has anyone got advice for how to not suck when it comes to this? It is the number one road block when I'm reading and they are all over the place.

>>20822537
what are you reading? and the honest answer is to read more, when your brain gets used to seeing nouns vs verbs vs various grammar pieces it will automatically pick through something like that

Why 33 ways to say 'perhaps' though? I'm always afraid to use them because it will be the wrong one.
https://jisho.org/search/Perhaps

>>20822537
Is this really that hard? I have no memory of having significant trouble with this kind of thing. There isn't an infinite number of particles.
じゃないですか? really?

>>20822537
ur just a super noob still, it all becomes obvious later

>>20822537
Read something with kanji.

>>20819374
>>20819229
Holy fuck please DO AJATT

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aH2IQnXzR74

>>20822537
if you know japanese words and what can possibly be a particle it's pretty easy

Be real with me, /djt/. AJATT is a meme, right? Surrounding yourself with Japanese will force you to study more than you normally would in a given day, sure. But people here and on r*ddit seem to treat it like a magic trick that’ll give your brain 100% fluency from raw exposure, even if you can’t read shit.

>>20822537
Withpracticeyou’llbeabletoreadthatshitezpz. Youdon’tneedspacestowritealegibleaentance

>you don't need spaces to write a legible aentance
Apparently you do

>>20822813
a major component of ajatt is a very efficient path to reading. i think most people who think it's a meme are probably coping because they want to think they can get fluent off 1 hour of studying a day.

a reminder that this is a legal sentence in english.
buffalobuffalobuffalobuffalobuffalobuffalobuffalobuffalobuffalobuffalobuffalobuffalobuffalobuffalobuffalobuffalo

>>20822831
> think they can get fluent off 1 hour of studying a day
>Implying you can’t
Studying is for nerds, I’ve already watched 7,000 hours of anime. It only took me 5 years to pass N5

>>20822813
parts of what people who call it ajatt do are stupid
but you learn to read by reading believe it or not

studying is part of ajatt

>>20822813
It's not about "surrounding yourself with japanese to force you to study more", you don't get it. It's about absorbing the language the same way you did when you learned english as a kid. You get it into your blood every way you can. Nobody thinks it's excessive when a kid is immersed in a language. You learn as you go, mostly subconsciously. Do some research on Krashen.

>>20822856
>It only took me 5 years to pass N5
N5 is about 1% of the way to fluency, hang in there.

>>20822835
there's only 8 buffalos, found the anon who doesn't know english

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J_EQDtpYSNM
good video explaining language acquisition

何回やっても
何回やっても
日本語が倒せない

let's be honest, Matt spent like 5 hours a day in anki, that's the important part not the anime he could barely understand

if you want to spend all your time in anki and never speak or be able to hear then go for it. you will be able to read porn.

If your brain doesnt snap, and you can get it stick, you'll be a japanese decoding robot. Anybody who got really good maximized their immersion in real native dialogue.

both are important but without the anki the equation is useless. it's just wishful thinking that you can watch anime all day and end up good at Japanese without actually putting any effort into it

>>20822974
that's how language acquisition works though

>>20819142
>Grinded the last 600 words in a weekend

how the fuck

>>20822945
>spend all your time in anki
>you will be able to read porn
optimistic

How would you translate "お前何者だ”

as for you, whom

>>20823416
the fuck are you

in front of me, what kind of person

>>20820423
イチゴ牛乳！
イチゴ牛乳！
イチゴ牛乳！

>>20823416
who bitch this is

>>20823197

if you're a child, and it takes multiple years of daily input to be able to even vocalise a sound in your native language as a child, so why would you think it's a good idea to replicate the same thing? I'm not sure how the research on this is turning out but it's definitely debatable whether children's brains are more capable of actually adopting language in this manner anyway so you might be even worse than a baby after 2 years of daily immersion without additional study

>>20823470
これは

にほんいがいにもありますか

where can i torrent light novel raws? I can't find shit and I want boogie pop

>>20823594
most adults have already learned how to use their mouths surprisingly

>>20823699
これ、アメリカのコンビニで買えるやつ

>>20823704
if it's not in the guide or nyaa (just checked and nyaa does indeed have scans for boogiepop) then your best bet is scouring the web for ddl links by googling the name of what you want plus some keyword like "rar" or "zip"
for some reason jpg scans are the default format for sharing LNs so you'll have to be ok with that

>>20823740
shit taste.

>>20823740
コストコにあるかな

>>20823785
i thought nyaa went down a while ago? guess i didn't check up

>>20823791
yeah it's pretty gross

悩殺

女は怖い

>>20823823
What apart of reddit do you come from?

>>20823834
none sir, canada

much needed update karubins twitter is gone again

>>20823849
is checking whether calvin deleted his twitter or not part of your morning routine

>>20823849
thanks jamal. Where do I unsubscribe from your rss feed?

that wasnt me btw i dont give a fuck abt carbin cuz no1s posting any new content from him

>>20822883
> It's about absorbing the language the same way you did when you learned english as a kid.

And that’s a terrible idea. It takes children 2-3 years of non-stop listening before they can say their first word, and ~6 years until they can read at a Kindergarten level. Unless you want to reach fluency in 12+ years, the bulk of your knowledge must come from studying. And while immersion is important, the lengths some AJATTers go to is downright stupid. You’d get better results watching 10,000 hours of anime instead of fumbling around on your Japanese desktop trying to find the control panel.

2-3 years? yah maybe if ur babys got autism

they start trying to speak before theyre even 2 if ur not a deadbeat parent that gives them no input

>>20823909
>Unless you want to reach fluency in 12+ years, the bulk of your knowledge must come from studying.
hilarious
>You’d get better results watching 10,000 hours of anime instead of fumbling around on your Japanese desktop trying to find the control panel.
agree with this

luckily u dont need knowledge to know a language u just have to understand it

>>20823909

children cant think critically about what they're hearing/reading. assuming you're not retarded your higher brainpower allows you to understand what you're hearing/reading much quicker than a child, and this is obviously true.

>>20823986

what does it mean to understand a language? a sentence even? it requires knowledge of how individual constituent parts contribute to a greater meaning, which itself requires knowledge about what those individual parts actually mean