/jp/ - Otaku Culture

Little girls bring me and my smelly peepee great joy

>>20738758
ロリパン
バセドアンドレドピルドです

stop coming here and just go read and watch stuff in japanese. stop coming here. seriously. stop it. there's nothing of value here. this is a self-destructive habit. you're wasting your life. but enough about japanese haha am i right? no seriously, stop fucking going to this thread

Sorry but reading was a little crummy tonight and browsing gives me comfort

buy a nice 抱き枕 (japanese for "body pillow") with a lewd picture on it and hug it when you feel stressed out instead of coming here

Post your favorite kanji.

鑄熱繭瘉

the brain can only accept so much foreign language input before getting exhausted

>>20738808

why do you like those lol there's no balance to them

we stan a result kanji. 輿

>>20738819
The first one looks majestic the second one reminds me of ''fire'' (the first one also reminds me of fire although its meaning is not related to heat) the third one looks super neat and the last one has that roof like radical which I like so much with 3 neatly drawn radicals underneath and a second roof on top of it.

渕 is another classic of the genre

i've always liked 興. i think it looks neat. it's like a road leading to a big city.

>>20738846

鋳 is tangentially related to heat tho, you need a lot of heat to cast iron

凶 is also pure kanjikino

與 is the coolest of those kinds, also notable, 函 鼎

Remember, reading Manga is reading but it's a limited form of Japanese akin to reading subtitles of an Anime. As you improve, you'll want to add LNs, Novels, and news articles to what you read.

remember, reading manga is fun as hell, and you should do it until you get bored which will be never

remember, if your goal is to read newspaper articles in Japanese, just end yourself now because you may be the most boring person alive today

remember, if you don't watch japanese baseball steve kaufman will come to your house and whisper "watakushi wa" in your ear until you commit honorable suicide

>>20738889
>>20738890

Remember manga is just the Japanese word for comic which should be called comic and not manga since we are speaking English and not weaaboonese.

>>20738808
承 ftw

>>20738908
Instead of anime should I say cartoons then? What about raito noberu?

i'm always speaking japanese, my yamato damashii is infused into every word i type

>>20738908

remember, manga, like graphic novels, are their own mediums and exist entiry separately from comics

Yes I'm dekinai. Oh this thread so far. Many new words for my anki deck with such different kanji. But they're necessary words. That they are. Doumo.

this thread is not fun at all.

>>20738915
That is exactly what cartoons are called in English, so you would be correct. If you when speaking English shift into katakana pronunciation for the words light novel or drama, kill yourself.

>>20738919
Do comics even exist anymore? What even is a comic if not a graphic novel? How about you just stop trying to elevate your shit taste in comics and just call everything that combines art with words in panels "sequential art".

>>20738758

>>20739012
>do comics even exist anymore?
Yes, every wednesday many new comic books are released. Comic books in the traditional sense of "4 bucks gets you 20 pages of bullshit and 15 pages of ads."

>reading light novel
>2 minutes later
>on to the next sentence
what do i do now

>>20739085
rinse and repeat

>"oh, Genki makes everthing so easy to study"
>learn the grammar no problem
>learn the kanji no problem
>remember the words... big problem ;_;
>realize I'm not even learning spoken Japanese at this point, instead just very stiff and polite stuff
Should I continue or change my method of learning?

I wonder what quality of those courses will be. It will be mainly Chinks, so they will have an easy start.
I'm going to be clean with you /DJT/, I despise how popular Japan got, all those fucking normies travelling there and moving there. Last year it was the record both for foreigners living there and for foreign tourists.
I wish I was born earlier so I could enjoy it in 1990s (yeah, during recession) as a kind of a house on a tree where it's not easy to get to for everyone else.
At the same time my goal has always been to learn the langauge to consume Jap stuff at home, and maybe eventually go on a trip there but nothing more than that. But I'm still bitter about it.

>>20739220
>>20739220
>Genki
you know where you should head back

I just realized my torrented copies of Genki are the first edition from 2000.
Are there any glaring differences in the second edition that I'm missing?

Why does 色 and エロ have such a strong connection. I don't get it.

>>20739372
I think you're confused.

>>20739397
I am talking about stuff like: 色仕掛け、酒色、色っぽい、色気. The connection between color and sex doesn't make sense to me. I'll need to research this one later at some point.

>>20739372
It literally comes from a picture of two people fucking.
Or at least that's what a lot of sources would have you believe, it's pretty hard to tell what's right here considering this shit is ancient and there seem to be multiple explanations for it. English wiktionary has a different entry than Japanese wiktionary for instance.
It appears the (old Japanese) word いろ itself originally referred to familial relations and later became attributed to romatic & sexual relations and female beauty, and then to just the beauty of things in general and their color, because colorful things are beautiful or something to that extent.

>>20739298
I love NHK Easy but I wish the audio wasn't shit.

It will probably be shit because Japan still uses super old, traditional methods of teaching English. I don't know why I should expect how they teach Japanese to be any different.

>>20739304
You mean Tae Kim and Anki, right?

>>20739430
I need a lot of fantasy to imagine the first sentence in your pic. This helped a lot thank you.

Whats the best way to do isolated kanji study for someone who despises mnemonics? Any reccomended resources/guides?
I've been just doing KanjiDamage and ignoring the mnemonics but I realised that's probably a horrible way of going about things.

>>20739499
to NOT DO IT YOU FUCKING RETARD

>>20739499
just keep ignoring the mnemonics?
there's not really an alternative to simple drilling once you throw out the entire concept of "mnemonics"
anyway isolated kanji study is questionable, i won't deny it lowers the entry barrier to real study by at least a little, but it's still essentially a way to skip out on learning the language and instead larp at the sidelines learning *about* the language because using the dictionary to look up every single letter as you try to read is naturally a more frustrating task than old school flashcards
however isolated study is an uphill battle & the sooner you start facing off with chinese hieroglyphs in the wild the better

i.e. read more

So I've finally hit 2k
Should I start reading now or go for 6k?

yes you should read, here is good book for beginner
https://www.aozora.gr.jp/cards/000067/files/4869_14066.html

>>20739659
>Poems
Get the fuck out of here

>>20739659
6k here I come

>>20739667
you may scorn the し but know that until you can embrace and become one with the し you are yet a fledgling and remain blind to the true path

>>20738889
>>20738890
Manga isn't reading.

>>20739609
Go for 3k. It has been universally proven that this is the perfect cut off point to switch from core to your own mining deck.

>>20739609
Start reading and continue Core 6k. It's not a binary choice. Consider 盾の勇者の成り上がり which you can find in the library as both a LN and an audio book, so you can read as you listen. Also, it's a new anime so you can watch it as well.

>>20739725
fuck off you meme spewing bitch.

>>20739499
Don't do mnemonics as words then. Instead, find a photo/picture that represents the components, then put those photos in the positions that they'd be in the kanji. Your brain can do the rest. Just know how to write or recognize the components based on the picture and you're golden.

おはようおにいちゃん

きょうのあさごはんはなんでしたか

domo, watashiwa john, yoroshku onigaishimus

>it's been two years and I still can't remember which is 上履き and which is 下履き

>>20738797
I known that feel

>>20739431
I never use the audio feature, I just read it

容疑者Xの献身 feels like a graded reader. thank u higasino-san

>>20739879
you stop up into the house but down from it

downwards is the dirtier direction

what do you think about reading aloud? is it good practice to do if you can? or will it permanently cripple my speaking ability and is it better to just read silently which i can do much faster

>>20739844
肛門

>>20740240
say it with me lads
watashi ha gakusei no nihongo desu ^-^

>>20740240
actually i just realized it wont cripple your speaking if your speaking is crippled already since your internal voice will be reading with incorrect pitch accent anyways so you might as well read it out loud and get your mouth muscles used to stringing those られるs and かねないs together all fast and epic-like.
i look up pitch accent a lot not because i care about accent but because i got a mind virus that compels me to look it up. i don't even think i understand sentence level intonation anyways so its probably pointless

>>20740287
But gakusei domo use boku?

>>20740287
わ、わ、わたしはゲイ

>>20740312
if u watch 10000 hours of anime and expose urself to other misc japanese shit u should have no problems lookign at something like 真夏の太陽 and knowing how to enunciate it

btw the op is fuckin aids

>>20740364
i havent done 10k hours of anime (im at 500/10000) yet but i did read manatu yesterday and thought it was shinka at first lmao i will probably never make that mistake again. since i started reading more i can pick up words i learn in my reading while listening effortlessly which feels awesome and makes me wonder why people purposefully avoid reading

>500/10000

im glad ur having fun picking up new words and reading but plz dont @ me with such low anime力

oh yeah it wasnt with english subs either so maybe im actually at 0 hours

>>20739844
今四時五十分です。
ひるごはんはステーキでした。ちょっとやめるです。ぼくのはらはちょっと下らないですね。
I hope this made sense.

>>20739609
you should have started reading 2k words ago

>>20739609
i say try do both. lower your daily new words in anki down so your workload allows for more reading time. if anki gets annoying at this point delete

>>20739609
Start reading holy moly

delete ur idiot cards anyway and click this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9lyZR0yVvkQ

the hardest part of japanese is knowing whether to read it as aku or hiraku

How did you guys go through Tae Kim/grammar in general? Feels like it’s taking forever because there’s only so much random vocab a day that I can give to my brain.

>>20740640
Yo don't actually need to learn every single vocab posted on the site.

>>20740640
I read maybe 2-3 sections per day at most. Sometimes nothing if I didn't feel like it. You won't know this grammar after reading the guide anyways, but just hopefully itll ring a bell if you encounter some stuff and you can recheck.

There is also little sense in forcing yourself to go through the whole thing before starting to read so you better just get going already.

劣等種なジェイぴー達には日本語なんて学べない
低能力のせいで不可能ですので諦めなさい
>>20739862
onigirishimasu ^_^

Jamal is sleeping.

ゲイのジェイーピーの住民にとって日本語なんてゲイである。よってJP住民がゲイである

>>20740614
no its not lol

わたしになんかようか

Kana -> Genki 1 -> some light reading + Anki decks -> Tae Kim -> learn some more kanji by radical this time -> Genki 2 -> more intermediate reading -> muster up the courage to talk to someone in Japanese and continue with reading and anki

After reading everything in the guide and dropping out of college after 1st semester of Japanese I came up with this route for maximum learning.
Nearly done with Genki 1 now.
Am I delusional? Is this a decent path?

>>20740808
Don't learn kanji. If you insist on genki speedread. Radicals are optional. There is no such thing as "intermediate reading" with that amount of knowledge.Speed read tea kim. You can optinaly learn ~500 core then drop. Start dojg skim. This is the point where you can mine or just skip anki. Repeat you will learn eventually. Don't be a retard and do memes.

>>20740772
はい、低能力の一人出ました
某リプ機能のないサイトみたいにしたいからリプ機能のあるサイトに構わず使わない恥ずかしい奴出ました
恥ずかしいから話しかけないでくれる？

Don't do memes*

>>20740808
Fuck genki, dude. Just read and listen. Don’t fucking output. Input is key.

Your plan is literally as baka-gaijin as it gets.

>>20740808
this is a really bad path i think you should reconsider

Is it hard being japanese?
Imagine this. You’re playing a game and then you come across a kanji you’ve never seen before. You’re basically fucked, right? Because now you can’t pronounce it and you can’t understand the sentence because of one fucking moonrune. You can’t even sound it out like in languages that use the alphabet.

>>20738908
>we are speaking English and not weaaboonese.
speak for yourself baka gaizin

>>20740861
is this what its like to be one of those people who doesnt even know how to google

>>20740861
Almost all childish games are retardproff (furigana). If you don't posses the innate wapanese intuition to guess the reading from context. Welp you are one of those special japabroes.

Can you get away with reading LN’s in public? They’re like little unmarked white books without the cover. All the asians at my university are gooks and chinamen, do they know about LNs?

>>20740861
u basically can fill in the blank cuz u know japanese it doesnt matter if u cant read a kanji tho thats more rare u more often are unable to read a word but u know the kanjis that make the word so u basically know whats up

>>20740872
This post implies you don’t have access to other resources other than your head

tbqh id rather have access to no other resources but my head than be like u zoomers who have access to all other resources but not ur head

我がゲイ機能を見たがるのではないか
よし、見せてあげるよ＊ジッパーを下ろす＊

>>20740841
Genki was basically shoved down my throat during the very little time I spent in college.
I realize it's probably not the best... but at this point it's comfortable and familiar.
I guess I'll finish 1, since I only got 2 lessons to go. Maybe I'll do something else instead of Genki 2.
Regarding input over output, I don't understand how I'll be able to read and write fluently in Japanese if I don't actually write down the kanji.
I was able to learn English through a combination of input and output, I think.

あなたは日本語がわからない可能性が高い

>>20740880
but why

>>20740874
If anyone notices you looking at moonrunes everyone will laugh at you.

>>20740897
Your reading comprehension is shit. Focus on english before studying another language.

>>20740887
teehee it's funny because I insert "GAY" into every sentence xDDDD memeing EPIC STYLE XDd
holy fuck when is redd*t going to leave

>>20740886
Jamal is right for once

>>20740908
the instant you close this tab big boy

maybe i shouldnt have said im gay so much

dont be ashamed of who you are

>>20740905
your reading comprehension might be the shit here
why would a nipponjin be playing a videojuego and not have any resources
what does this contrived situation have to do with "being" "japanese"
if you have a brain you probably google some shit from time to time when consuming media in your native language too but that is a high bar

i mean the frequency at which i post im gay doesnt really change who i am at least for me cuz im still gay

i might not be gay any tips

delete ur character and keep rerolling until gay=1

>>20740926
start learning japanese

try taking estrogen

live from the djt war room

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U7Hh0yhvGCA

>>20738908
Do you call sushi "vinegar and rice with raw fish" whenever you speak english?

>>20740891
1. Learning to write kanji is not outputting. You don’t need to craft sentences to learn to write. You also don’t need to learn to write in the first place unless you plan on living in Japan as 99% of the time you’ll be typing on a phone/keyboard.

2. Output teaches you nothing. All t will do is fuck up your accent if you speak to early, even if you don’t realize it. You need the sounds seriously ingrained in your brain first or you will craft awful speaking habits.

3.Input is how you learn. You know how you learned English? By hearing other motherfuckers speak English. Listen and read. As much as you can. Studying grammatical structures and isolated vocab isn’t going to get you fluent in any reasonable amount of time, if at all. The more you expose yourself to the language the faster you will improve your understanding of it.

>>20740942
i just call it disgusting

update on my japanese girlfriend lads, she sent me a care package as we are temporarily in different countries

she got me good with that fake bug in there boys what a little joker she is

instead of writing all that you could have just linked the krashner

>>20740861

once you know 2-3000 kanji you can guess the reading of almost any kanji with very high accuracy

>>20740953
whats above the jasmine tea

>>20740953
nice dude i remember when i used to do japanese girlfriends myself but ive gotten a bit older and found whats really important in life so i dont do girlfriends japanese or otherwise anymore

if u want to learn the secret click here and also read the pinned comment https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=45Ekd6KKXpg#t=16

吾輩はゲイである
彼氏はまだ居ない

for those of you who want to use the embed ill copy it
never die on yourself

>>20740967

these because she's trying to stop me being an alcoholic

>>20740953
Holy fuck Nips are too smart.

>>20740953
what does it have to do with learning japanese?

I already do 50 new words/day on Anki and I still feel like it's not enough because I have plenty of free time. Should I just go to 70 or will it be too much for true retention ?

update on my japanese girlfriend lads, she sent me this letter as we are temporarily in different countries

she got me good with that 愛してるよ

>>20741000

im trying to motivate you all so you can move to Japan and get your own pocket tenga

>>20741001
Anki is not learning Japanese. If you have time left how about you read?

>>20741001
50 new items a day in anki is actually a lot if you don't cap the daily review amount. how long have you been doing it for? how long do you spend on reviews a day?

>>20741006

your girlfriend seems like a really annoying gyal type teenager. mine would beat her up for being lame

>>20740953
>>20740984
so let me get this straight ur gonna eat gross kit kats wash it down with non alcoholic beer concentrate jack off a bunch and do weird anal shit with the cockroach all while blindfolded with a warm eye mask?

noice

u can get on skype and show ur sakura from fsn impersonation while wiggling a cockroach into ur anus

>>20741010
I feel like I don't have enough vocabulary to read without wasting my time (I might know something like 700-900 words only)

>>20741012
Not since so long ago but since I have an awful lot of free time it's not a problem for me. Plus it only take me a hour and a half I think

no I already deposited the cockroach on top of my housemates bananas. gotta pass on the prank. apart from that, yes

on top of the bananas is no good ill tell u the real way to get em

u wedge it into a cabinet door they use often in the kitchen so when they open it it just falls out and they freak its really good

>>20741032
I'll let you in on a secret. No matter if you start at 1k 2k or 6k words it will still be a huge pain in the ass because reading isn't just about knowing some individual words. If you're doing the core vocab you will never learn a lot of the common phrases in speech because the corpus it's mined from is completely different.
It's not a joke if people tell you to stop putting this off and just start doing it.

>>20741032
50 words a day for 2 weeks and you think youve reached review equilibrium sure raise it ｗｗ

>>20741040
ill supplement this by saying even after extensive anime viewing reading was still tough just the visual part of it but the understanding part was mostly not so bad

>>20741040
Maybe I shall start then since I don't have anything else to do

>>20741041
I thought that if it became overwhelming I could just go back to 50 again

>>20741032
well here's a question that you should ask yourself (i'm not asking you). do you want to know japanese or do you just have fun grinding words in anki? if you want to know japanese then i would say take that hour and 30 minutes a day and put it towards pure reading of a novel for an hour and a half. put your extra free time into reading too. you vocabulary will improve so much faster if you do this much reading per day

>>20741032
just read fucking dragonball or something

I did RTK & core6k and my reading was garbage, it wasn't until I started reading manga regularly it improved. after I had read all of JJBA and Berserk and a couple of other stuff so like 170 volumes of manga, I felt like my reading was pretty good and I passed N1 not long after that.

I think reading manga is a lot better at beginner/int level cause even if you don't know a word it becomes a lot easier to learn from context compared to novels, and it's a lot less frustrating when there's a few pages you can't understand

manga also has really cool pictures in it

>>20741082
finally a definitive answer
it takes jjba and berserk to get from rei to n1
mina gambare

>>20741082
Wow im also reading jjba

Imagine if you actually had taste.

>>20740943
> You also don’t need to learn to write in the first place unless you plan on living in Japan
I'm still debating this in my head desu. I just feel like it's the most complete way of learning though, and I'm kinda inclined to write the kanji after all.
>All t will do is fuck up your accent if you speak to early
Believe it or not, I can do a very very good Japanese accent. It's the advantage of not being a native English speaker. My native language allows me to pronounce most Japanese syllables very well.
>Input is how you learn. You know how you learned English? By hearing other motherfuckers speak English.
I think you may be right about this. I do watch a lot of anime and listen to a lot of Japanese music so I got pronounciation really clear in my head. I can't understand a lot of phrases because I don't know enough words and grammar. This is why I'm inclined to study classic style with the use of a textbook.
I really want to drop it at some point and only learn kanji, while exposing myself to as much Japanese as possible through reading and watching/listening to stuff in Japanese.
I just can't do that yet. Even reading some Youtube comments in Japanese is near impossible at this point.

what would that look like give an example
everyone always criticizin without puttin themselves out there

>>20741097

not exactly, I also did the kanzen master reading book for n1, both kanzen master grammar books for n2 and n1 (made flashcards of every grammar point, i can upload the decks if anyone wants it they're simplistic as fuck tho)

I did some news article reading, probably like 25 articles max, and like 100 pages of random novels I got bored of (murakamis windup bird chronicles was one of them)

I made another 4k vocab flashcards throughout this manga reading period as well

>>20741001
When I started doing anki i used to do 100 new words/day. After some time i couldnt do it anymore, it sucked all the fun and I gave up. Now that I'm back to learning I don't even use anki, I just read.

i like the guy saying he has a good japanese accent when he doesn't even know japanese. what a strange personality. to say such things

in my head i sound really japanese but apparently i still have a strong accent, i dont know how to fix it

Here's your listening for today
https://youtu.be/qmuxw4iZvjU

>>20741132
i always put myself out there tho im not active in this nerdfight

what do you call it when you can understand something you couldn't a few months ago and you smile for a second before realizing you're screwed

>>20741221
Having low standards

悟り

>>20741221
learning nihongo

Is AJATT the real deal or just a meme?

depends. what do you think ajatt entails?

>>20741159

なんて切れ味なんだ！

>>20741239
Stupid meme if you have the time to watch 10000 hours watching anime then spend 10000 hours reading and you will be way better

if u spend 10000 hours reading and never watch anime ull never learn how to feel and u will just be fucked until u do

>>20741264

i've mostly studied by reading and consequently i can read pretty much anything you put in front of me w/out a dictionary but i cant even watch one piece or something without having to focus like a hawk on every single syllable and even then half of it i 聞き漏らす like a fuckin noob. i think you need 10,000 hours of both.

i think my problem is i never liked anime so ive probably listened to about 10 hours of japanese in my entire life. my brain isnt used to it yet.

>>20741264
oh yeah, i forgot that khatzumoto was a very famous advocate of never reading in japanese at all, and specifically advised against ever doing it

look it doesnt get any simpler than this

u need some proficiency with the spoken language (im not saying u have to produce japanese) before u even think about trying to read and have it be fruitful

period

anyone who says otherwise >>20740895

>>20741284
isn't this literally matt-sama's opinion on the matter

>>20741286
im just echoing the sentiments of a book that seems written by scholarly gentlemen

idk who this matt person is and i dont care to know them based on what gets posted here

instead of anime can i listen to 10000 hours of ytr https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e4a3-l4osWk

if you fuck up the order of learning japanese you have to wait 10 years to forget everything before trying again

keep listening to that but u need anime

>>20741283
Not my point it's just that the time you use to immerse yourself can be used more efficiently

what if you had a little japanese person who would sit by you while you read and would tell you whether to read it aku or hiraku

you have to develop the little japanese person in your kokoro

>>20741283
why didnt maasama tell me this what the fuck

>>20739862
boku mo john desu wa... yaranai ka?

>>20741296
if you cant kikitori this you dont know japanese
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SUq27EEBGaA

>>20741303
the obsession with efficiency in the japanese learning community is autistic and retarded and leads to dumb NEETs getting hooked on amphetamines so they can do 10000 flashcards in a day

tfw i was in an izakaya and i read 河豚空揚げ as かわぶたからあげ just kill me

kawaii

>>20741315
askin how to learn nippongo and youre stylin on me

>>20741303
i mean i didnt feel inclined to read for a very long time but it was prolly bc somewhere in my subconscious universal brain filled with mostly dark energy and dark matter i understood that reading depends on u to dictate the pace and flow whereas anime at full speed its all dictated for u and u just have to deal with it

u cant be trusted to just do things on ur own or u will fail and not know why or how because u have 0 checks and balance on ur self-"education"

>>20741306
悟りを開いても読めない

>>20741323
imagine if u saw dudes doin this to try to learn french lol

u cant learn nihongo u just figure it out a little bit at a time until eventually u can say u know japanese and as long as someone around you isnt better than you then everyone will believe you and it will become fact

so same as everything else

in other words https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sXQpJhZ_2Wg#t=25

>>20741339
>imagine if u saw dudes doin this to try to learn french lol
there was a guy who tried to do 10000 flash cards in a month to learn german or something

why didnt some1 just tell him to listen to rammstein ?

>just read bro!

Pathetic that no one here recommends listening to newbies. I'm going to go complain about you in my secret club discord, fucking losers who will never learn nihongo

or i guess in this generation gzuz lol

i know like a shitload of german just from this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H2hGrsExuyc

>JUST read
>JUST watch anime
Why don’t you JUST do both you fucking retards holy shit it’s not rocket surgery

it's called visual novels. stop resisting the holy grail

problem is u need to do the watching of anime first and over a good period of time for it to sink in if u just try to do them concurrently while "trying" to "learn" """japanese""" ur still gonna be fucked even if u can do basic genki textbook shit its still gonna take time to improve unless ur hangin out in japan gettin powerleveled cuz ur a desirable human

>>20740861
>He doesn't know how Keisei moji works

>>20741376

id play visual novels if there wasnt cringy romance bullshit in all of them. my man wants a dragonball VN or something

>>20741371
90% muzzies. Lel the absolute state of germany

>>20741377
>desirable human
why you gotta hit below the belt

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e3zQ0liIOyI
Does /djt/ watch underage girls playing video games?

imagine learning japanese with no interest in anime manga vns etc

>>20741439

imagine learning french with no interest in asterix and obelix xD

I plan on learning french once my japanese hits an acceptable level. There's a lot of cool literature and film, and it's a really easy language to learn for a native english speaker. But as far as japanese, i'm still mada mada

>>20741454
But the French used to have a big surplus of qt3.141s before the muzzies took over responsibility for reproduction. You can't compare Japanese women...

>>20741437
>virtual youtuber
Never post this garbage again.

>>20738758
recently found out about these, whish i had found them sooner.
https://www.mediafire.com/folder/p17g5uk4phb41/User_Uploaded_Anki_Decks

ㄅㄆㄇㄈ!

>>20741511
Holy shit dude this level of memery..
Just read

why do people do subs2srs? i get using flashcards but why would you want to go through like 1000 cards for a single episode when you could just read/watch it and make cards for random words you want to learn lol

why read or watch anime when you can let anki do it for you

https://next.rikunabi.com/tenshokuknowhow/archives/5900/
>ホームページで拝見いたしました

how am i supposed to write my エントリーシート when even the help websites are using double keigo

>>20741486
I can't wait, imagine how quickly you would reach fluency compared to Japanese putting in a good 4 or 5 hours a day

Is there a step by step video tutorial to set Anki?

>>20741576
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ggGXyx2Zfzw

>>20741576

just download a deck ancd click go man!

>>20741581
dude this isnt fair u know im hella weak to this kinda shit

gates getting pied is like the greatest shit of all time

>>20741620
I thought you were a sworn winbab.

>>20741581
>>20741585
Sorry guys, im autistic.
>Remove the review limit by going to the deck options and under the "Reviews" tab and setting "Maximum reviews/day" to 9999 (Don't be alarmed by this number, it likely won't go above 200-350 in the long run at decent retention with 20-30 new cards a day, the point is more to set it to something you'll never hit)

i mean when i want to do fun and stimulating things for males winblows is what u must use

that doesnt mean i think its good but the most triggering thing is linuxbabs who try to use it like windows

gui was a mistake

oh and the best thing u can do with a mac is one lament ur poor choice of purchse and two install winblows

why are you so based

>>20741648

hit the cogwheel next to the deck and click "options".

easy.

>>20741659
>cogwheel
What kinda cancerous anki are you running?

reading any ln for more than ten minutes takes too much focus

try an ln you actually want to read

so just limit it to 10 mins a day and stay focused for those 10 mins then move on

if u do that every day ull still see results

they should rename djt to /daily worthless shite/

I feel like a retard but I have an easier time reading “higher level” manga/articles/etc than reading fucking Yotsuba. Lack of kanji really fucks me up.

should i do my reps when im in japan for two weeks

>>20741706

you shouldnt read yotsuba anyway the art is all traced

manga isnt reading btw

>>20741708
Matt says to never miss reps

>>20741711

i only take my advice straight from djt i have never watched an eceleb video

>>20741708
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7RoKsza70EM#t=125

matt wouldnt approve of going to japan during your foundational ajatt years remember you wouldnt want to miss out on the experience of fully devoting yourself to something

like fully devoting urself to eating lunch every day in the toilet

yeah thats the spirit

which os tan (xp and earlier) is the best do u guys think ?

>>20741735

for me mojave

Pleb here, going through grammar shit.

Is there no differentiation between “I am doing this thing” and “I will do this thing”? I’ve seen things (example sentences) translated both ways but have not noticed anything different between those sentences.

matt eating lunch every day in the toilet makes me like him more honestly

>>20741774
yeah the auxillary verb いる can do this.
する will do
している am doing

>>20741735
You mean that one chart where their tits were the sizes of the max allowed memory?

>>20741791
i mean whoever u like is up to u dude

>>20741774
>>20741798
i think in this case we wanna go with します and しています : )

>>20741688

windows 95 2.1

>>20741659
>>20741688
The normal version?

if you've don't do 便所弁当 you will NEVER make it.

ur all cogs in a sick machine anyway

>>20741708
what are reps?

>>20741856
This is absolutely appalling.

>>20741706

this means you suck at japanese and are just using kanji as a crutch. you probably cant understand anything by listening either if you dont associate the sounds w/ words

>>20741861
umm the term is toilet meshi

yeah maybe matt was onto it actually i didn't know this was a cultural thing. he was actually being japanese

>>20741856
Cool dude! You only have the 2k/6k deck? Is it usefeul?

>>20741870

mine sounds better

Is Tae Kim korean?

>>20741798
した did
していた did done

imagining matt doing his best thinker pose on a japanese highschool toilet

>>20741882
yes he is

>>20741875

that isn't the 2k/6k deck, it's just my own deck of sentence cards. i used to use this profile but ive abandoned it because i finished everything a while ago and i felt it was time to move on from repping the same shit

しました
していました

: )

>>20741888
why should I learn the japanese grammar from a korean?

Why not just eat on the rooftop?

>>20741892

japanese and korean grammar are basically the same

>>20741885
good look but he needs his hand to his ear for his hidden earbud trick hes not gonna undo the wires in his clothes just for lunch

>>20741891
are the translations right though sensee

the hidden earbud thing must be the most autistic thing anyone has ever done in the history of language acquisition

>>20741892
first of all you aren't learning japanese grammar from tae kim you are learning sentence patterns being translated into english

>>20741905
you say that now but who will be laughin when he finishes his 10k hours without even dropping ou--oh shit

>>20741903
this is a really good question and best left answered by a professional

>>20741917

wtf is that font

>>20741889
cool dude, share your super deck with pics and audios

>>20741905
>hidden earbud thing
explain

>>20741897
but korean dont have kanji. Even if their alphabeth is worse then katakana

>>20741906
And how do I learn the true grammar? Just watching anime?

>>20741920

that deck is pretty awful, you don't really want it. i think someone just googled the english definition for the pics and half of them have no relation to the meaning

>>20741889
>sentence cards
is this optimal

>>20741930
you need to learn japanese first since all the materials that teach "real" japanese "grammar" are in japanese since you'll basically be reading a textbook for japanese students learning their language's grammar

>>20741938

i dont know, i just find it more useful than doing single vocab now that i know like 15k words or something. realistically i could just read now but repping keeps the juices flowing even if i dont bother reading anything on a given day

>>20741708
I stopped my reps when I went to Japan the first time in my life. It was the worst mistake I've ever made when it comes to language learning. The effect wasn't noticeably during my stay in Japan but even once I got back I never got back to doing them and subsequently stopped Japanese completely once I was back in my normal environment. It easily cost me years of potential progress until I hopped back on again last year.

>>20741922
matt wanted to immerse with his ipod in class but he got yelled at by sensei so he cut a hole in the cuff of his jacket or sweater or something and stuck an earbud through it so that he could casually rest his head on his hand and listen to anime thinking no one will ever figure out his master plan

>>20741940
There are materials in English that explain Japanese grammar using Japanese grammar terms like this book, but I think what he means by learn grammar is learn how to comprehend the language and not necessarily attain a scholarly level of expertise on how it works under the hood.

The only answer is read more, or even better listen more.

>>20741964
That must be the most autistic thing I ever heard and I'm not surprised.

>>20741888
>>20741882
Tae Kim is American.

>>20741962
If all you were doing was your anki flashcards, you were never doing any Japanese to begin with.

listening to anime with 1 earbud concealed in tandem by custom tailored jacket and resting head on palm ftw

why not grow out your hair and use a bluetooth

>>20741978
he has an obvious korean accent

>>20741969
this looks like an interesting book im gonna have a look at it the next time im on the toilet having lunch

imagine the thoughts going through the head of every kid who starts to notice a pattern with the outcast and then catches a glimpse of the earbud

id think hes a narc before id think hes listening to anime

eating in a public bathroom sounds so gross wtf
why don't the 陰キャs just sit next to each other and eat silently like in the USA

>>20741990
stay up to date tomodati https://youtu.be/6UqaJ8gmTGg?t=173

>>20741997
id think hes roleplaying a narc in his head but you gotta wonder if some audio ever leaked cause he never paused it

laughing at matt is all well and good but if you laugh at matt and then go back to grinding a core deck for hours please realize that you are also a retard

tfw people can hear you chewing in the next stall when you eat your benjo bentou

>逸す
listen to this with your favorite dictionary addon

>>20742004
Deus mio

>>20742020
gotta watch out for that regional dialect

i have those headband headphones but i stopped wearing them because my japanese girlfriend kept calling me naruto-kun and embarrassing me

epic immersion tech

1 earbud in ear the other in butthole

why u may ask? bc all sensations pass thru the anus and thus if u route a significant portion of your immersion to ur anus u will learn japanese exponentially faster just like how u get drunk faster from "butt chugging"

try it

recommend me some words to mine

病身

>>20742031
one time khatz recommended getting two sets of earbuds and listening to two different japanese audio sources at the same time
he called it "multiplexing"

>>20742041
well u see the goal here is u want to input to the butt not output from it

>>20742041

this sounds like satire but i cant tell

anyone here acquired pitch accent? how did u do it if you did anything consciously

i watched 10000 hours of anime w. eng subs and other misc nihongo shit (getting a japanese girlfriend) etc

http://www.alljapaneseallthetime.com/blog/what-would-happen-if-you-went-mad-like-sparta-and-started-immersing-like-a-time-vampire-killing-terminator-robot/
i wasn't joking

>>20742052
You need to buy 15$ bluetooth wireless water resistant proof shower speaker .

You guys ever think about what it would feel like to cum inside your anki deck?

>>20740953
Are those tenga egg masturbators?

>>20742041
>>20742065
has anyone tried learning to use ohasi with their other hand so they can eat double the keeki
>>20742074
how would you do that in japanese though

Suppose you’re faced with a short movie on YouTube. Will I like this? Will it have that much L2 in it? Surf risk-free with the other ear playing something of proven value as backup.

these people are insane

>>20742052
you just have to pay attention to it
i don't think you have to be as autistic as dogen, but if you don't make the effort to hear it or don't know it exists to begin with then there's no way you have good intonation

does anyone want to do RTK with me next month? 79 kanji a day for 28 days

>>20742084

it's not an egg. it's a pocket tenga, can't you read?

>>20742095

you'll have to spend 12 hours a day doing it at the end

new idea l2 in one ear l3 in the other
all japanese and chinese all the time
native vetted

anyone want to try my new learning method "dubtitles"
basically you watch anime with nihongo in one ear and the english dub in the other

waitt.....
The cult wasn't just a meme.

>>20742020
wtf

nothing worse than when you're dualboxing a multiplex setup and some time vampire rocks up and starts dead-languaging you, and to make up for it you have to reset all your anki reps for that day

>>20742122
that sounds really clever but im gonna have to wait for ntr to give me the verdict on it because the worst thing you can do is try a learning method that hasnt been properly vetted

由貴が紀子に抱きつき、どさくさに紛れて、純まで手を握ってる
am I retarded for not being able to visualize this? the last part makes no sense to me

>>20742110
proof?

>>20741155
>>20741155
>dont know how to fix it

BY kiLLING yourself

>>20742188

it needs more context to be clear but it appears that the yougisha attempted to grab victim A and in the tussle has ended up also grabbing victim B's hand

>>20742188
this is just a messy dogpile

>>20742188
you might be retarded depending on how much context you had before you read that sentence

jamal pls recommend me some futanari pc98 games.

>>20742243

dont have any but i remember having to literally spend all day doing RTK when i did it and i was trying to get through it as quickly as possible

>>20742282
cant think of any atm pls ask again later

>>20742287
was it worth it? i wouldn't be going into it blind i know words for most of the kanji in RTK1 and read every day and i would put the mnemonic on the front to avoid stupid mistakes that would result in a failed card

>>20742249
lmfao no dont do this lol

>>20742271
由貴 is happy to see 紀子
>>20742250
That's the only thing I can see, i.e. she rushes up to embrace her and ends up grabbing Jun in the mess, I thought I was mistaken since it's a weird sequence to visualize but I might just be overthinking it.

>>20742313

dunno if it's worth it or not since ive never done any other method. i think it's pretty useful/effective but many people seem to disagree & think that there's not much difference between learning through rtk or just exposure to vocab. imo it creates a skeletal framework with which you can easily add information to like readings etc, which might be more difficult if you're just learning kanji in the context of vocab itself. but the effort required may not be worth that.

>>20741992
Are you bullied?

has anyone itt used anki for kanji slash writing after learning to read and what are your thoughts because my flash card withdrawal is starting to get the best of me and most importantly nihonjin ni naritai

>>20741978
>Tae Kim is American.
But still, that's a korean name

>>20741991
are you korean?

>>20742338
I did it when I went through RTK. Just put the definition on the front and the kanji on the back.

>>20742346
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EvtQWsJtp-M

>>20741998
Dont the bullied people eat in public bathroom in US?

>>20742338

i used to answer my reps by writing the answer down. took a very long time to get through but now i cant write everything well

>>20742353
I think he speaks in Japanese

whats with all these scrubs who cant tell that tae kim is a japanese name

>>20742355
no clue, i went to a school that was made up entirely of 陰キャ and people just sat around and ate food wherever because there was no cafeteria
back in middle school the unfortunate kids would just sit at less populated tables and not talk to each other
was matt bender bullied in high school?

>>20742375
>the unfortunate kids would just sit at less populated tables and not talk to each other
same

>>20742355
Only in movies

>>20742373
i cant believe people would defame our japanese sensei 金妙 in such a disrespectful manner

his twitter account is kimchi a classic japanese dish and you people think youre fuckin big shit gonna become japanese someday when you dont even know this

I'm currently watching that fukken pig: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jw-15oyzNu8

It's great and all, I'm learning a lot. But god damn is so retarded, even for a kids show. Isn't there something on the same level with a little more style? Maybe I should just watch MLP in japanese?

>>20741529
If done right: subs2srs with Anki slows the show down to a sentence by sentence level. You have to come to terms of sentences and words you don't comprehend on their own or you just ignored when you were watching. If you understand what was said, delete it. If you don't understand what was said, read the sentence. If you don't understand a word, add the definition.

Now pass the fucking card, and pass it each time it comes up. Don't fail subs2srs cards, just use the review to be reminded what those small parts of a show you did not understand and what they mean. Also rewatching the show will be a different experience since you have near 100% comprehension since now you notice all the things you ignored before and pretty much know what they mean.

I unironically tried to go through some of Matts videos because I wanted to know what the fuss is about. But he's so fucking retarded and insecure rambling about some inane personal life garbage without making a single point for 15 minutes straight.
He seems perpetually occupied with comparing his Japanese skills to literally everyone else around him as well to feel superior.

>studying nihongo for a couple months
>finally understand what desu, nano, boku, etc mean
It's worth it.

bokunanodesu

>>20739019
how do you say seven rings anyway? my brother just sent me this and I was like, why do you want a tattoo that says seven rings, outing myself as only intermediate japanese comprehension

Has anyone had any luck getting the AZW3 files from the collection in the guide to work on their e-reader? I have a kobo aura and anytime I try to convert to epub to put them on there, they wont show up.

>>20742412
just sit down and watch the 3 hour video sometime with some popcorn or your favorite movie snack

>>20742406
Japanese kids are already fluent in Japanese. Stop thinking Japanese kids shows are at your level. Nothing fun is made at your level because "English speakers learning Japanese" is not a target demographic.

Just watch shows you like in Japanese. If it's MLP, then go for it pony bro, go for it. Hell, I know one Japanese lady using Adventure Time to get better at English. Stupid as that sounds, at least she'll be watching it in English unlike all those other students that don't watch or read anything in English outside the classroom.

>>20742406
I'd legit watch SpongeBob on Japanese netflix if they had it.

you say it like this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jviHqcDWF58

>>20742406
I might be into something there:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TnCfXm0Xzbk

anyone know where i can get some of abe kobos novels online? particularly would like to read either 砂の女 or 他人の顔

tfw i have to wait another 40 years until hes on aozora bunko

>>20742419

>>20742445
wait what? 7輪つの指? what the fuck? that's like two fucking counters

>>20742418
bokudesunano

>>20742437
i wish i could stomach this for ten thousand hours id be killin it
gambare tomodati

>>20742452
do you not understand what "in between" means

>>20742445
Why do normies even want Japanese tattoos anyway

>>20742452
七（つの指）輪

>>20742465
she's a big time weeaboo

how does it make you feel that an international jetsetting pop legend has made it quicker, and easier, than you?

how many hours of anime has she watched?

>>20742406
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rUgHa7BXASk

Turn on subtitles to hide the English subs.

>>20742445
>>20742452
Yeah, it's fine as is. 輪 is the counter for wheels and rings so
>ending an English sentence with "so"
>finally thinking in nihongo

>>20742445
lmfao just forgot the つの指 whoops. what the fuck

>>20742478
yeah, the tattoo is fine. anyway i was thinking of getting a new tattoo to rep my pen shop, "pen island"

>>20742468
So big she can’t even google translate the meaning of a fucking tattoo before getting it lmao

>>20741571
You do realize it will be as difficult as learning japanese ? French has basically one of the most difficult grammar system

>>20742470
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DTEompKexxI

we stan a dekiru queen

>>20742485
>>20742478

that tattoo is not fine lmao, any japanese speaker seeing it will only think of this

>>20742430
Nuke stop posting and go read. GET ON IT!

>>20742430
Sure thing I already watched a couple of other anime and things that are way more interesting than pegga the stupid pig. But truth be told, with most shows I really have a hard time understanding much. I feel like I progress way better with easier things, targeted for younger kids.

Btw. I learned english mostly by watching through some seasons of south park. It was pretty hard at the beginning, but progress was of much faster than with japanese. My first language is german though, so english was basically just a pretty harsh dialect.

>>20742431
I also heard good things about SpongeBob, maybe I should try it. nyaa surely has it.

>>20742460
arigatou aniki. At least it's more interesting than textbooks. I'm just a little self conscious when watching pegga in public on my commute to work by train. People probably think I've completely lost it.

>>20742488
I had French in school and while I'm far from fluent despite never studying at all I can still pick up a novel in French and get the gist of everything going on.

It's really no comparison.

>>20742489
yall jealous she more fluent than matt

>>20742489
>speaking 日本語 to random people that obviously don’t know 日本語
Holy fucking cringe

Also, “fluent” lmfao

ur just jealous aria grande is fluent and you arent. あなたはとても可哀想ですね

at least i've never been fucked by dan schneider

I think i just got perma aids from that halfbreed slut. Like maximum disgust

>>20742496
I mean, that's hard to deny. Is it just a coincidence that 7 of them = grill? Like, 8 rings would not be a problem.

https://ja.wikipedia.org/wiki/七輪

>>20742477
can't wait to see that one fluttershy scene...

>>20742520
feel you desu

>>20742521
good god that is so hilarious.
>learn kanji, they said
>you will have trouble with homophobes otherwise, they said

I guess it didn't work out for ariana

trouble with homophobes huh

>>20742496
That's a big onahole

u think a kid picking up flowers and counting them would stop when they got to 7 and be like wait if i say this that means charcoal grill wtf?

>>20742579
thats not really the problem innit

https://twitter.com/ken_sugar/status/1090599245231513601

>>20742579

you think kids actually use that counter for flowers m8?

>>20742583
holy shit you cant say zettai roywiki in national television

>>20742583
https://twitter.com/ken_sugar/status/1090721897942200320

lol even japanese people are dumb enough to think she knows japanese

>>20738758
PSA: if u DONT do reverse cards (english to japanese) then ur reading comprehension for kanjis will be fucked

if ur doing core 6k, create easy reverse decks like this by creating a new card type. ordering is sorted out automatically by anki

(im also using custom font that shows stroke order and direction)

hey faggots count how many wheels are on this truck!

if a gaijin says even one word of nihongo around a japanese person they immediately snap into a trance and start jerking their phimotic cocks until they achieve climax

>>20742583
You guys gotta stop posting this shit, it is physically painful to watch

>>20742593
PSA: if you DO this, i will come to your house and fuck you in the mouth

>>20742594
あの…一輪、二輪、三輪、四輪、五輪、六輪…くそっ

>>20742593
i dont get it. are you writing the word out in kanji? why not just put こくばん on the front in this case

>>20742608
because Americans think memorizing a dictionary is learning a language.

>>20742594

japs literally meme about this shit, thats how much 七輪 is associated with the grill

>>20742608
> are you writing the word out in kanji?
yes i am. front card is in english and the goal is to write its equivalent kanji by hand
there are literally so many kanji that look alike each other and without being able to write it from memory you won't be proficiently differentiating between the two.

what's with all the british people in here shouldnt you guys be in brittvsjapans discord?

I feel like I’m gonna run out of good anime to watch long before I actually git gud

>>20739019
>>20742445
１０００竿です

>>20742619
外燃機関？

うごくのかな

>>20742622

how do you know if you should write 白墨 or 黒板 or ブラックボード or 塗板 tho

>>20742624
rewatch

>>20742488
It will take a quarter of the time according to FSI

>>20742622
i mean my personal experience of being able to proficiently differentiate kanji without doing this sort of thing kinda goes against this idea of yours but i don't think yours is necessarily a bad idea either, just that i would put the japanese reading on the front as well as maybe a japanese definition if it doesnt give away what kanji you should use in the definition

>>20742630
by only learning one of those words scrub next question

>anata wa totemo kawaii desu
>jouzuu desu ne!!!

>>20742645

wouldnt it be better to just use the japanese word in hiragana if you want to write the kanji out in response

>>20742633
Make me

>>20742624
The chase is better than the catch

>>20742650
if youre gonna run out of shit before you finish learnin then learnin might not be the wisest time investment maybe go back to bein an eop and save yourself 10k hours

>>20742647
>using anata in a sentence
Might as well jump to omae.

>>20742649
thats probably what i would do if i were to do anything like that i just threw out the obvious answer

>>20742668
please dont try to correct fluent speakers speech before you reach a high level of proficiency yourself its really cringe. aria is native vetted btw are you?

>>20742629
日本人ですか

>>20742649
Wouldn't this be a great opportunity that you can say the japanese word as well? I think english on front and japanese kanji or even mere kana on back is extremely important and greatly overlooked.

＞貴様

>>20742679
everyone who says "arigatou :)" gets a "uwa jouzu! :O" in response getting vetted really is that easy the question is, why haven't we done it yet

kimi no koto ga watasi ni wa totemo kawakatta desu yo ne
tilt head and repeat ne until jouzu
when you get the jouzu you are now in the native vetted club
so when are you gonna make it

>>20742593
You're a moron. Just play the vocabulary and sentence audio on front if you want to practice writing Japanese words from memory. No need for any English.

PS: you don't need to know how to write kanji from memory to read Japanese.

jaws desu ne

>>20742668
I was quoting this video >>20742489
and imagining if it were a regular obasan she was talking to

>>20742683

whats the benefit of being able to think of 黒板 when you see "blackboard" in english? if you're translating words in your head as you go you're doing it wrong anyway