/jp/ - Otaku Culture

>>20682537
あきらめない

>>20678615
I'm telling you this for your own good, and the good of others like you.

>you're living in Japan and working as an ALT aren't you? Living in the country helps a fuckton, as you're constantly immersed, and there's a NEED for it
Foremost, yes, I am an ALT in Japan.

Yes and no. Honestly, the internet is a much better immersion tool than actually being in the country. If your Japanese is less than conversational, you get practically no benefits because people won't want to talk more than a minute with you. That's assuming that don't immediately go all-English for practice though. You get much more practice with the internet, to be honest. The only exception is the special days I'm invited over for dinner and it is actually all Japanese. That's the only time being in Japan actually outweighs the benefits of surfing the web.

>>needing to develop lesson plans for 25 different classes
>This isn't hard, it's 25 classes a week, and you can recycle material among them, plus, after doing this for nearly a decade, I can come up with lessons on the fly. Super easy. Shouldn't take more than 2hrs to plan all lessons for the week
This is ignorance and I forgive you for it. 4 of those classes are 7th grade, 4 are 8th grade, 3 are 9th grade, 1 is special ed (7-8th grade), 4 are 3 year olds, 4 are 4 year olds, and 4 are 5 year olds. 1 is private tutoring. Even assuming all classes are on the same day in the curriculum (never happens), I'm passionate and handcraft the lessons for each class depending on what the students in that class like. Less so for the 3-5 year olds since they tend to be the more the same. Also, no, I don't have any time between classes.

>>(travel between schools),
>How is this a negative? In all likelihood you're using public transportation, giving you plenty of hours every day to study during transit
I drive.

>>and still have enough time to do at least 10k words of reading a day.
>See above, you're making it seem like your lifestyle doesn't accommodate your studies, but you and I both know that it does, AND that you're also given plenty of time to go out and socialize too. You finish work at 5pm, and have tons of free time during/between classes too.
I wake up at 7am and work until 5pm where I go home and craft lesson plans.

AND I STILL HAVE TIME TO READ AND LISTEN EVERY DAY.
For your sake, stop making excuses and just do it. There are 24 hours in a day, you have time.

Is the grammar ましょう always used when it's more than 1 person? Basically like "Lets"?

>>20682777
No, you can use it when talking to yourself and I've had people use it when in context it only meant for me to do it. I think be default it's plural but with context it can be singular.

>>20682787
On an Ankidroid deck, I have read 私が行きましょう being translated as "Why don't I go?", would you consider this an appropriate use or is it an error?

>>20682834
I've never heard it used in that way but that doesn't mean it can't be. Read more native material and if you see it like that then it's probably ok.

>>20682834
depends on context, this is one of these grammar points that don't have a 1-1 accurate translation if you don't know context like most of japanese really

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8HJUEGEA0tw
本日のゲームクリエイターが未来の魔法使い
だからね、
青葉ちゃんと一緒に働きたいね。　
あきらめない
そのためにあにめを見たり、漫画やファンタジー本を読んだり、ゲームをしている・作っている

>>20682834

That wording seems pretty misleading even though it's not technically incorrect, presumably it's meant to be in a context of volunteering as in "I'll be the one who will go".

穴を食べたい。

>>20683050
変態

>>20683074
肛門を舐めたい。

レロレロレロレロレロレロレロレロレロレロレロレロレロレロレロレロレロレロレロレロエロエロ

良い穴だ。

もっと穴が欲しい。
だから、レロレロレロレロレロレロレロレロレロレロレロレロレロレロレロレロレロレロレロレロレロレロレロレロレロレロレロレロレロレロレロレロレロレロレロレロレロレロレロレロレロレロレロレロ。

Daily reminder, if you don't eat ass you're not gonna make it.

real ninjas dont eat ass

They do. In fact they eat the most ass.

is eating ass a good method to learn japanese then

>>20683271
asian women usually don't have good asses unless they're full on fattie mode, so no

what about eating anime ass

>>20683287
I made a lot of progress when I was learning English by just reading doujin so sure, go for it man

>>20682754
>I wake up at 7am and work until 5pm
I guess that's one of the reasons there are so many neets there.

>>20682754
>driving in a country with a working public transportation
not gonna make it

>>20683271
Yes it is the best way to learn Japanese.

>>20683287
Eating Anime ass is even better for your Nihongo.

レロレロレロレロレロレロレロレロレロレロレロ
レロレロレロレロレロレロレロレロレロレロレロ
レロレロレロレロレロレロレロレロレロレロレロ
レロレロレロレロレロレロレロレロレロレロレロ
レロレロレロレロレロレロレロレロレロレロレロ
レロレロレロレロレロレロレロレロレロレロレロ。

Is the Japanese symbol for censoring the maru ○ symbol?

>>20683371
yeah except its the other bigger maru that you cant post on 4channel

>>20683374

tried to warn him look what happened

I see, thank you!

『レロレロレロレロレロレロレロレロレロレロレロレロレロレロレロレロ』

son you just give it a quick peropero the reader can infer that it continues on

why eat ass when you can eat these posts instead

ass tastes better

>>20683434
Eat my dubs

>>20683434
Nothing beats the texture of ass.

にせかきょういんが

います

>>20682754
So what's it like working as an ALT in Japan?

It sounds like absolute misery.

in the bigger picture the alt world is just a giant revolving door of shit

also lmfao at that long ass idiot post

if you have no societal worth of course ur not gonna get much for ur japanese in society

thats why i tell u to have hobbies and points of interest that u can share with japanese ppl so the language can come naturally

u have to be actually just retarded if u go to japan because u just want to "learn japanese" because not only will u fail but even on the internet where this is effectively u https://streamable.com/d4prq u will still fail

the problem lies within and if u need more evidence of this just look up a guy who goes by the handle @sentenceminer lmfao

i fucking give up

>>20683504

yosh time to give up

ヨシじゃなくって

ヨッシーだとおもうよ

oh man yosh poster probably did give up too this place changes you always seein the optimistic folks drop like flies

theres only one thing left to do boys

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s6P-rEylWaQ

*places my ghost hand on top of urs and guides ur mouse pointer to the x in the upper right of the screen*

if you want me to leave dont post such a hit to keep me here for another 5 min

Furigana is annoying, why is so much good material made for idiots who can't read?

how would you say "to be left with no other choice but to..." in jp, my dudes?

ｘのほうがいい

>>20683662
Xをするしかなかった

>>20683714
not ｘするしかことにならなかった？

>>20683662
>>20683714
or rather することしかにならなかった？ So in a sentence like "The world is heading to a decisive moment and we are left with no choice but to watch" it would be 世界は決定的な瞬間に向かいつつ我々は受動的に傍観することしかにならなかった。Would you say that it's correct?

okay boys, I found it. It's actually vnegざるを得ない

わたしはゲイになるしかない

yeah ざるを得ない was the first thing i thought of and then するほかない came after also やむをえずなにかする also しかたなくなにかする i mean there really are so many things but yeah

>>20682834
that is not an error it means what it says dont worry there are multiple uses for the auxillary verb う you will get used to them

Going to read ガーリー・エアフォース bros

shame on a ninja

>>20683852
incorrect

Okay, so I just started working through VNCore and I cant remember any of it. I know mnemonics are a thing but I dont know how the fuck to come up with them. What do?

you have to suffer through the beginning of wiring your brain to acquire japanese words. you dont have a strong grasp of all the sound combinations in japanese, you probably dont know how to distinguish similar kanji from one another, and you dont have any other japanese vocabulary to relate it too nor any strong context that youre learning the words from. you just have to suffer through the beginning but if you stay with it it will become so easy you will think japanese is the easiest language in the world

>>20684404
What part is the problem? Recognising the meaning of the characters or remembering the sound?

>>20684404
Just let spaced repetition work it's magic, remembering stuff is hard at first but eventually you'll start remembering readings and meanings of individual kanji which makes remembering the words easier.

>>20684505
Both lol. I guess Ill just power through like the other anons said to do. After all, I walked into this knowing there would be some sort of insane difficulty spike at the beginning. This must be it.

>>20684559
remember to read as early as you can stand it cause memorizing shit that youve never seen used before is as far from ideal as you can get

who told you to use mnemonics for words lol that's retarded

>>20684559
You should consider trying just straight up sentence-mining instead, that way you'll gather every new word with context surrounding it in a setting that interests you, making it much easier to remember. Rather than checking off word after word in isolation without it having any relation to anything else.

>>20684580
Is Kino a safe bet to start on? I loved the 2017 anime and apparently thats trash compared to the original anime and ln so I want to start with that. Or does what I start with even matter in the first place?

>>20684559
don't listen to this person they're part of a cult and they advice is bad (yes really) >>20684604

>>20684559
The hardest part is starting out. Nothing you do is going to change that. Until you get good enough to consume your first personally important piece of Japanese media, everything is going to suck and you're going to feel like you can't learn anything. Just hang in there and keep marching on until you start making it.

Don't spend years searching for easier methods like Nukemarine did, and don't run around following advice from so many different people that your method keeps changing. As long as you're learning words and grammar from SOMETHING and you start reading and listening early on you don't need to change your ways until you're no longer a beginner anymore, or you're doing something stupid like spending lots of time doing sentence cards instead of reading.

>>20684604
a sentence containing the word is not context lmfao

posting this so they can't claim it's a misunderstanding

Thanks fellow anons. Off I am to reading Kino then. Good luck to all of you!

>>20684730
Oh shiet forgot one thing. I assume that as I read I should create a mining deck?

>>20684736
Yes. You should start mining as soon as shared decks become uncomfortable. The front of your mining cards should contain how the word is spelled and the back should contain its readings and meanings. You can delete ones you don't want to memorize within Anki later after mining it.

If you store a sentence in the card (this is not actually a bad idea if your mining setup makes it easy) it should be on the back so that it cannot act as a trigger for remembering the word; the spelling should be the only thing that can be a trigger for remembering the word inside Anki.

>>20684697
How on earth is for example a sentence describing a car sliding of a road and crashing into a tree, not context that can help solidify the memorization of the word "car"? What are you even on about?

>>20684736
>>20684754
Also, you should put an emphasis on mining extremely common words like 追う, not words like 閲覧. There are several thousand common words, you don't want to force feed yourself the ones you're going to see less than once a week. You're not going to see them often enough as a beginner. You want to feed yourself the ones you're actually going to keep seeing and needing. Otherwise Anki will be a chore and feel like a waste of time.

>Remember: Don't listen to any advice from DJT

Lol

Good thing I'm not DJT.

>>20684606
the most important thing is that you want to read more of it so being interested is a good reason to try it
that also means that if you start to dread reading its time to try checking out some new things to read

>>20684606
eromanga sensei is even easier to read than kino come have a gander
https://itazuraneko.neocities.org/shousetu/b/%E4%BC%8F%E8%A6%8B%E3%81%A4%E3%81%8B%E3%81%95_%E3%82%A8%E3%83%AD%E3%83%9E%E3%83%B3%E3%82%AC%E5%85%88%E7%94%9F/%E4%BC%8F%E8%A6%8B%E3%81%A4%E3%81%8B%E3%81%95_%E3%82%A8%E3%83%AD%E3%83%9E%E3%83%B3%E3%82%AC%E5%85%88%E7%94%9F01%E5%A6%B9%E3%81%A8%E9%96%8B%E3%81%8B%E3%81%9A%E3%81%AE%E9%96%93/index.html

note: like almost all light novels, this one suffers from first page syndrome, where the first page or two is slightly harder than the rest. give it until after "妹とは、それからずっと、会っていない。".

How do you guys approach names?
Add them to a deck as they pop up or just let them flow?

someone post it

*posts it*

no the other it

sentence cards arent context. saying stuff like that makes it look like you dont actually know how to learn words from context or know what its like to read for extended periods of time. traditional vocab cards are extremely efficient both in terms of card creation time and review time and yes they do work. it really does not need to be any more complicated than this

it was hard to find out what ぶした means

>>20684704
here fixing this for u

>>20684770
lol

*sighs* sometimes you just gotta take things inta yer own hands

pretty sure this is what they meant by it

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B5y4L4bneyM#t=77

>>20684918
rude at least do it with a white rectangle tool

also why the heck do you need read a complicated sentence about a car sliding on a road and crashing into a tree when you can just do 車 - くるま car. its not a complicated fact to remember... its something very concrete that maps to english without issues

>>20684918
aligatoo much better

>they
based jamal respecting others' pronouns preferences and not assuming any genders

the nice thing about putting sentences on the backs your mining cards is you can realize when you mined the wrong definition and fix it instead of being stuck with a dictionary entry with no information on how you got it

u cant even learn japanese on ur own do u really think ur qualified to make ur own study materials ??

>>20684952
>mined the wrong definition
what did he mean by this

you shouldnt put something into anki you arent 100% sure about so if you follow that rule then you dont need to waste time with sentences period

>>20684971
mining 水 as みず instead of ウォーター

>>20682754
>Foremost, yes, I am an ALT in Japan.
Stopped reading here
If you are in japan or any foreign country, learning the native language is of high priority.
So ofcourse you have time, you MAKE time if you have to, because you must learn the language as soon as possible.
This isn't true for the rest of anons with jobs and studies who live in their home country, because learning a foreign language to read anime porn magazines is not a high priority to them and they have more important things to attend to.
So don't talk shit about others when your circumstances is very different from them

>>20684991
笑う

lmfao how are there still resolutioners here

>>20684976
thats some of the best flash card advice ive seen in djt

i mean that IS a valid reason to ignore someone's advice but lol that post

>>20685025
its still bad bc u cant trust the learner to be sure about anything other than not knowing japanese

>>20684935
The example word I used is not the issue, it could've been the word "ambidextrous", "constellation" or whatever. I was making a point by using a simple word, what is a obvious word to one person might not be to another.

just do manga and lns and vns and anime and nico nico douga ftw

Not ready enough to delete anki but ready enough to stop using it. Nothing but immersion now.

mfw djt just wont press this button >>20684439

>>20685042
>ambidextrous
some compound word that starts with 両手. no anki card needed to understand.
>constellation
星座
no card needed

oh i know constellation thats starseat

>>20684918
this chart doesn't justify anything it just declares stuff bad for no reason

fuckin fine dude i didnt feel like scribbling that hard but u know what dude todays ur lucky day let the akapen fuckin fly

if you cant see why 4 out of 5 of the 5 bad formats are bad compared to recognition theres no saving you

>>20685042
again those are all extremely concrete words that are easily made into j->e vocab card you arent really making your point. and any word that needs disambiguation you can just put some word on the front like physics or astronomy if you need to specify what field the word applies to. heres an epic word i just learned and didnt need anything more than this to put into anki to remember it

>>20685079
yep looks good to me no card needed

>>20684991
>because learning a foreign language to read anime porn magazines is not a high priority to them and they have more important things to attend to.
You couldn't be more wrong

>>20685061
Again, obsessing over the arbitrary examples I just happened to use, I should've just written "_____" or "______".

>>20685061
>no card needed
i'm not going to remember that word if i don't add it to anki. you don't have to lie about anki to make your point.

>>20685144
if you cant come up with even one example of a word that needs a sentence on the front to be a good card then your argument cant be valid

>>20685152
i'm not lying, i stopped using anki after about 1000 to 1500 words and haven't had any issues aside from slow-ish learning due to not reading enough

>All these spergs thinking they'll become ALTs so they can learn Japanese
Being an English teacher in Japan is a job (while a pathetic and laughable one, it's still a job) which means you are there to do what you're told and get the job done. You're not there to dick around and experience the culture and practice your Japanese. You are there to teach kids how to speak English. If you think you're going to go there to use the kids to practice your Japanese when you're supposed to be immersing them in English you are a piece of shit.
Dancing Monkeys は最低

reminder anki should only be used to acquire vocabulary readings anything else is a waste of time. just do as many cards as you can in 20 minutes and then go back to your reading.

who here /miachads/

heres a pic of me at a nomikai on a friday after finishin up another bangin week at my alt gig

I once had 民間 as a card but I didn't really understand it when I thought about the context I found it in

why ?

>>20685124
why did you need to put that in anki to remember it

Do other languages have a katakana equivalent? I can't help but feel how weird it is to have different symbols for the same sounds

>>20685250
youre usin one right now tomodati

>>20685124
lmfao

>>20685243
cuz i couldnt read it when i came across it but now i can and ill be sure ill never forget it either. same reason you put anything into anki i guess

>>20685124
have u considered starting your own budding scanlating career btw (still lmaoing)

>>20685124
sauce?

brb using some nihongo

>>20685276
keep us updated

>>20685250
YEAH WHY WOULD ANY LANGUAGE USE two sets of characters to convey the same sounds?

>>20685283
I quit using nihongo a second after making that comment. :D my bad, cant help ya out goodluck tho

>>20685124
Why would that word need disambiguation?
The meaning is doing something for the first time. "something" can be anything, including sex or using a new brush

hangwel wins again no dupes

>hangwel
hangyourselflel bros on suicide watch

>>20685243
because seeing a word once isn't enough to remember it

>>20685298
i didnt mean that word in particular but something like 畳 if you want to learn the reading for hwen its used as a suffix just put 畳 (suffix) on the front so you dont read it as たたみ

>>20685314
if i ever see it 筆おろし again and dont remember what it means i will unironically quit learning nihongo because that would mean i cant make it

>>20685336
you're just smarter than many other people. that's why you're able to learn words like that. it's never happened that way for me except in maybe one or two rare circumstances. in order for me to learn a word while reading i have to pay a lot of attention to it for a minute or two while repeatedly testing myself on the reading. and most of the time i have to do that at least twice (when i come across that word for the first and second time).

i love self diagnosed as dumb poster

dont bully him, he's my friend

>>20685374
It's okay anon. some words are just easier than others and you learn them by looking them up once or twice, 筆おろし does seem to be easy though

Also don't leave me hanging >>20685272 please

yeah i mean i knew what 筆下ろし meant just from context (not the sentence itself but the entire plotline so far for the sentence miners out there) but i just couldnt read it instantly and fluently so i put it in anki so i wont be so retarded next time.

>>20685392
https://e-hentai.org/s/e18be59971/1332076-56

>>20685124
imagine doing all this stuff just to not learn Japanese.

not to*
learn eigo

>>20685124
Or you could just read more and flip through a core vocab deck in 20mins every day.

there is nothing wrong with "to not learn" if you think there is then its you who doesnt know the eigo

>>20685469
daily esl thread

in fact "just not to" is extremely wrong in that context because it would make it mean "you're doing all this stuff but it's not to learn nihongo" instead of "you're doing all this stuff and it's not gonna make you learn nihongo"

>>20685493
what? it takes 5 seconds to make a flashcard and then you just go back to reading where you stopped at. or is this the new djt meme

>>20684905
Don't steal my image.

>>20685561
Too late

>>20685504
>making fun of ESLs when they already proved their determination to learn a foreign language to the level of being able to participate in conversations in a website dedicated to discussing chinese cartoons

>>20685469
this guy is wrong
>>20685506
this guy gets it

>162 posts.
>37 posters.

Jesus christ.

Reading is too hard that's why I grind 2 hours of anki every day.

learning english isn't impressive because it's the lingua franca with the best content in the world, and plus it's an indo european language.

>>20685697
Do you also feel smart pointing out to somebody that water's wet?

>>20685680
>making fun of esls trying to tell natives theyre wrong at their own language
not sure i see the problem

>>20685697
It also has a fuckton of bullshit exceptions on how to say/use words that you just have to know, so being a fluent ESL is insane imo

>>20685697
English is fucking tough to learn though.
The spelling is inconsistent as fuck and it has more "cultural shit you just have to immerse to get" than any other language.

若気…てるｗ

Anyone got a link for the tango anki decks?

Can't find them in the resources list

You wouldn't go that far right djt?

>>20685802
think that only two have been created and no ones leaked them

Just read hentai youll encounter a lot of tango there with pictures showing you what they mean

So Google's new OCR pretty much has 100% accuracy for every page I've tried so far

Time to make rikaichan for images / manga

>>20685882
>tfw learning Japanese or any language will soon be obsolete

yea just water down all languages into one shit language

tower of babel ftw

>>20685124
What's that lookup tool you're using behind anki?

Some kind of OCR?

kanji is gay and so am i

漢字はゲイそしてあたしも

>>20685882
The screenshot does not make a compelling case.

>>20685954
?

I mean sure, the order is wrong, but that doesn't matter for a rikai*-like tool

>>20685842
Is she blind?

>>20685882
what is your thought process here
batch images into api requests to save money and store the results for a dumb mouseover tool to pop up for you
api doesnt appear to mark locations of individual characters only bounding boxes of text

>>20686014
>click on text in image
>you get actual plaintext
>use any rikai variant with anki importer to quickly create cards for manga

this pretty much

>>20685882
there are errors in the OCR in this very image

>>20685915
it's a piece of software called qolibri. it's for viewing epwing dictionary files

>>20685735
i've heard it's not actually tough from european ESLs because they enjoyed the content they consumed a lot.

I will be pretty clear here you beta cucks, I will definetly learn Japanese in 6 months for the sake of understanding my future Nip Wife.

Where can I find LNs in japanese for free?

>>20686157
https://itazuraneko.neocities.org/shousetu/index.html search to see if what you want is available.
if not try nyaa

>>20686157
Just read op's fucking post.

J-2 before JLPT results.

>>20686193
when did they fix that site? I thought the ln section was broken and dead

>>20686147
this loser doesnt already have a waifu
not gonna make it

Managed to finish 戦国妖狐 today, it was a wild ride but I'm glad I managed to push through the hard parts with old japanese talking shit. Highly recommend it if you're looking for something between beginner and intermediate, especially cause the translation is garbage. The translation is so bad that I probably wouldn't have cried at pic related if I read it in English.

>>20686296
I learned all my old japanese from the third howkagei.

instead u cried cuz ur retarded

Duolingo fucking sucks

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-eLpc3-eRW0

can't get enough of these ajatt tips n tricks and cheat codes for gaining fluency quickly.

i cant even bring myself to click the vid im just lolling at the thumbnail lmfao

https://mega.nz/#!0E1SASqB!3tmTzWv7hQNYnhzo5_9UnUXnUaSLqeO5XEfPwCfcWPE

HJGP's grammar pages (i.e. no intros or appendices) split into the individual columns, in order. Why? So someone can OCR it. Don't bother trying the google docs OCR, its output is super broken.

https://youtu.be/-eLpc3-eRW0?t=753

don't use english definitions to learn japanese. it defeats the point of learning japanese. monolingual ftw

you learn how to translate japanese and not how to understand japanese in japanese...... is that true?

>>20686542
Not if you read and use tae kim.
If you keep fucking translating everything before you interpret it and completely base you interpretation off your shitty translation, then of course you're gonna fuck up. It's also the reason why you should avoid learning with fucking sentence decks, because they force a wonky translation of an entire sentence on you instead of the meaning behind the vocabulary that is used. If you use sentence decks, you're not going to ever understand japanese, you'll only be able to hope that a somewhat similar sentence was in that deck and that said somewhat similar sentence was properly translated (which it will not be, since that's the entire point of learning jap, being that you just can't fucking translate it because it's just that different). I can't believe I spent all this time typing this obvious as fuck shit out.

these are some pretty dumb arguments u guys are having

>>20686542
You do realize that most of japanese cant technically be translated directly to english without some creative liscense, right?

it was a joke guys. it's not true

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gkt5nT60xBA#t=249

>>20684879
that clown only knows 400 kanji, no one should take his videos seriously

>tfw know more japanese than jamal, onichan and rap guy
Today is a good day

>>20686562
Correct use of sentence cards only has the definition of the one unknown element in the card, like a word or grammar point. You're not supposed to have an english translation of the whole sentence at all, that is indeed fucked up if you do.

Ideally of course monolingual is ideal but it's easier to start of j-e and then transition after a short while.

>to learn japanese you must unlearn every other language you know
wow

is it true that khatzumoto thought 手袋 meant hand bags (not understanding it as being gloves) because he learned kanji with english meanings while purposefully avoiding english translations of japanese vocab? makes me think

防寒・保護・装飾などのために手にはめる袋状のもの。毛糸・革・布・ゴムなどで作る。

based hand bags made of condoms

>>20686862
There's literally nothing wrong with attempting to infer the meaning of vocab from the kanji involved even if you won't get it right all the time. An ESL who thinks a spreadsheet is a sheet that's been spread has made a retarded error but it says little to nothing about the way he's decided to learn overall.

>>20686635
but do you know more japanese than me ?

>>20686876
>but it says little to nothing about the way he's decided to learn overall.
it says that hes a tard too stubborn to take 5 seconds to look up words he doesnt know

when's nuke's next stream

This is the average flashtard

>>20686930
And he made an attempt to free himself from needing a dictionary. Had this ESL guessed correctly it would show that he knows the language well enough to start being more fluent, and if they got it wrong, it’s only a 5 second dictionary search to check.

>>20686954
>Had this ESL guessed correctly it would show that he knows the language well enough to start being more fluent
what the fuck does that even mean lol its entirely up to luck whether the kanji make the meaning obvious or not
guessing what a word means doesnt grant some greater abstract intuition for all other words in the future
>and if they got it wrong, it’s only a 5 second dictionary search to check.
they wouldnt check if they thought they were right theyd just go about their day having a bunch of incorrect defs in their brain

>>20686971
>guessing what a word means doesnt grant some greater abstract intuition for all other words in the future
i mean
guessing wrong gives you a greater abstract intuition
but that particular intuition is like 5% of your powerlevel, it's worthless and your argument is completely valid as long as you accommodate for that

I don't get the R series syllable pronunciations and no amount of tongue positioning tricks is making it make any more sense.
Within words it sounds like people are just saying the english R with a bit of L tossed in.
When they isolate the syllable it sounds like they're straight up saying la li lu le lo.

>>20686976
oh i meant guessing them wrong and then realizing you guessed wrong

so i supposed what i really meant was looking something up after failing to guess it

>>20686983
I assume you cant roll your tongue? If you can, just do that, and try to get to one roll rather that rapid fire.

you need to listen to anime for 10000hours before your ears can properly detect the nuances of japanese pronunciation. you physically cant hear whats being said so thats why it sounds that way. no choice but to start putting your listening hours in

>>20686971
If they were learning they would definitely check you sperglet

>>20687002
>they would definitely check
we were talking about catz
>And he made an attempt to free himself from needing a dictionary.
but he brought up some unrelated hypothetical esl for some reason

Just woke up from a dream where I was eating ass like it was groceries.
Shit was gold. And also, I felt like my Nihongo slightly got better afterwards.
You faggots have no idea what you're missing out on.

>>20686998
I can't. Guess I'll get started on learning how.

何時か日本に行って沢山の美女のケツ穴を食べる希望がする。
だから、その為に日本語を勉強している。
しかし、今はお金が全然足りない。

>>20686983
>>20687016
I know this anglo feel. All I can say is that it takes time and lots of practice.

I'm finally starting to understand the grammar. Now what would I use to get better at learning kanji? I know most of the basics but when I look at, say, Twitter feeds just for something to study, I dont recognize any of the kanji.

>>20687074
Read more and RTK.

Brainlets that don't know about radicals...

read more and don't RTK

rtk doesnt teach you anything about how kanji are actually composed or what they or their parts truly mean, other than giving you the idea that there IS such a logic, which is only true like half the time

>>20687060
ケツの穴に日本語しゃべってどうする
ケツの穴が欲しければ日本語なんか勉強しないでケツの穴を探せばいいケツの穴を

remember: kklc not rtk
my last post on the topic as people who argue about mnemonic systems are eternal dekinais

>>20687102
I know what you mean but it teaches you about the importance of radicals it even has RTK's own primitives that help you out more. In the long run a person that has done RTK completely will remember the kanji better and not forget it. However you must also read alot because RTK doesn't always teach you the correct reading of things lol.

yeah kklc is at least structured well for dropping early once it stops helping your brain rewire itself

rtk is good

定期

>>20687108
mnemonics help whenever you can't read a Kanji and try to recall the meaning and then the reading.

>>20687115
>RTK's own primitives that help you out more

RTK helps but the effort does not justify the benefits and newfriends shouldn't recommend it.

t. someone who actually did RTK for months and kept up reviews for months afterwards.

if you dont want to write kanji then doing rtk is a waste of mental effort that could be better spent on learning new words in a real japanese environment. you dont need to do rtk to notice the difference between 譲る 護る 謙る you dont need special names for the pieces like mr t. or whatever stupid shit they have you do you just have to recognize them as distinct pieces

ここの秋は寒くない

Is there a better way to say, "It's not cold here in autumn"?

>>20687105
でも、二次元のケツ穴は最高です。
だから、日本語が必要です。

looks good to me

like groceries

>>20687138
なるほど

>>20687135
ここの秋はゲイ。

わたし以外ゲイ

わたし、意外にゲイ

So should I use kklc? Rn im using nihongo sharks kanji deck which incorporates rtk into it, but you guys are shitting on rtk and I dont know the difference

just look the kanjis up as you go

i read rarepotato65's thesis on japanese vocabulary acquisition and his logic was so clear and well laid out that i had no choice but to agree with him. you should check it out if you havent read it yet

rtk is for the man who wants to know more than 300 kanji and know how to write them

僕は超ゲイです。
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fx7QKBRNo-4

>>20687211
i like how the british dude goes yeayeayeayeayea but in nihongo it just sounds like いえいえいえいえいえ

>>20687190
read the introductions for both, check out some of the memory tricks, and decide which you prefer

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yvS0Sr-2RH0
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HnYvcppV8PI
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kcYJdfi26-0

There is literally no show in existence with this many amazing OPs

>>20687198
why are you just now reading about it, when did you find out about him, and why does jamal even care.

蘇る
甦る
why would they do this?

>>20687244
call me a shaft fag but SZS and monogatari both have more amazing OPs

>>20687277
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OYT37DJku8A
But can they beat the hype of the first 5 seconds of this?

>>20687292
only my railgun is cheating

call me a shaftfag but pani poni dash and hidamari sketch had more amazing ops

>>20687256

Were there any good anime this fall? I've seen goblin slayer which sucked

>>20687309
sword art online : )

>>20687322
I can only watch stuff this shitty when I'm high on heroin

Holy shit japan is funny sometimes

>>20687326
This is what happens when someone from DJT goes to Japan.

>>20687244
I don't know about only my Railgun. And yet, This music feels familiar to me. Sounds like the OP's and ED's from the Hyperdimension Neptunia games which I'm a big fan of.

>he doesn't know only my railgun

お姉様ったら。。。

>>20687441
I usually watch ecchi Anime for now. Once I have more time I will watch more non ecchi Anime.

>>20687119
Hmm I did it all the other way around.. how fucked am I?

imagine being able to watch railgun for the first time again

at least we had the first time all things considered

>>20687497
did you watch season 3 of index? I got it but haven't watched it yet

index especially index 3 is not railgun

its pretty fuckt ud even bring up index tbqh

>>20687514
It's shit as per usual. This season is even more nonsensical. It feels like I have to have read the LNs to get it, like Tokyo ghoul does. But both earlier seasons sucked so whatever

This Anime has the best OP.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lre6KH7DQ4M&list=RDllEXdYAduEE&index=11

Can someone recommend me a dictionnary/encyclopedia for kanji? I would be better at reading them if I had all of them avaible to study and differentiate the similar ones (machi and motsu for example) if I could see them before getting fucked by Anki and his flashcards of demise (got through all of it though).

>>20687535
Yomichan

>>20687535
Oh, and some manga with kanji and hiragana while we're at it,pretty plz.

>>20687542
Thank you very much. It should help a fuckton. It's nice to have those kind of quick apps.

>>20687542
You have got to be fucking kidding me right?

Lol I feel bad for these brainlets that rely completely on these dictionaries. tfw forever a grammarlet.

>>20687326
私の前立腺がくすぐるです

Become this dense and you and up like this.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BPyAFWqJ1fU#t=507

>>20687602
>"makes no sense to me"
>moves on

lol

>>20687615
You can buy all his textbooks and workbooks for 400 dollars. And yet, This guy has a retarded cult following. And yet, His fans got so impressed by playing an otome game. Literally brainlet tier.

that guy knows japanese though
like, he learned it in the native environment, as a minor
hes the definition of actually knowing japanese
hes just illiterate

in a lot of ways djt is the starwoods spaceschool

>>20687640
Knowing 500 basic words for communication isn't fluency lol.

輪姦学校

mad flashtard detected

how does it feel to be worse than jorge chan

he knows japanese not 500 words lol
he literally grew up in japan and learned the language in the natural environment
what else do you want lol

>>20687679
You need a IQ above 160 in order to flashtard.

I truly feel sorry for the brainlets that can't flashtard.

>>20687688
That explains why he plays a Shoujo Otome game. His entire life is an Shoujo Otome game.

Jorge chan: Even after studying Japanese for 30 years I'm excited that I learned a new word. 図星。OMEGALUL.

Is Jorge Chan the president of the Dekinais?

>>20687688
that just puts him at an embarrassing 帰国子女 level, it doesn't mean he "actually knows japanese" unless you're being really generous

for one i would like to see the capability to make sense of 星の林間学校 after looking it up in the fucking dictionary (this isn't even fluency, it's just being able to put two and two together)

or even the word 書 lol

>>20687688
This retard has probably bought all of Jorge Chan's stupid texbooks and workbooks.

今日も一日がんばるぞい

>>20687834
not a cent
>>20687808
people dont unlearn languages bro

>>20687838
星の林間学校へようこそ！！！

You stupid Dekinai.

>>20687850
he never finished learning it to begin with

>>20687850
Just KYS man..

>>20687859
but he did

>>20687850
You sound like that stupid らいおんきんぐ faggot.

>>20687872
kwsk

>>20687864
らいおんきんぐ faggot detected.

i have very literally no idea what you're talking about

>>20687879
So this is the power of らいおんきんぐ.

>>20687888
Yes you do.

yeah ive seen that image posted before, never read it though

今北産業

starwoods spaceschool this is the height of learning japanese with RTK

>>20687244
The new OP sucks. Actually, the new season itself sucks. I have a feeling it's intended purely for LN readers with how rushed it feels.

>>20688097
Unfortunately yes. If you don't read much this is what will happen. RTK is good but many people mistake what RTK truly is for.

話が飛ぶ

>>20688097
what?

>>20688189
Leddit?

>>20688189
Is this the らいおんきんぐ faggot again?

Seriously just KYS and be over with it.

im just kidding im not sure if anyone can interpret 林間学校 the first time they read it

>>20688222
That faggot said it himself. He said that he studied Japanese for 30 years.

>>20688209
>>20688201
i don't know what this is about, but if this is your response to someone saying "what?" you are a mentally ill disfunctional manchild

If you need a dictionary for 林間学校 after studying Japanese for 30 years consider killing yourself.

if you need to put down a fluent speaker of japanese for being dumb and illiterate consider deleting your account

>>20688236
You have to go back らいおんきんぐ

>>20688251
consider killing yourself らいおんきんぐ-Kun.

none of you fucking pieces of trash can even speak japanese

>>20688264
still no idea what this means

>>20688271
Yes, you do.

>>20688265
This retarded らいおんきんぐ is white knighting for Jorge Chan. How fucking cute...

>>20688287
fuck you schizophrenic piece of shit

ok yeah 30 years wow lol hard to imagine you never once came across that word but he's living evidence of that. guess it shows you how powerful reading is for boosting your language knowledge

>>20688271
I've been learning for 3 years and I don't get it either

>>20688277
i don't tho

what is this lion king meme i missed out on

>>20688306
KYS Dekinai.

>>20688314
hido!

>>20688171
Are you talking about S?

Can someone explain how to properly use the dlsite.com search function? I want to search tags like 寝取られ but also limit it to let's say ロールプレイング, ideally in conjunction with female POV. Is there a way to do that?

matt is so much better than george

>>20688313
it looks like (and im just guessing here) some schizo is latching onto a past argument he lost and making a boogeyman out of the person he lost to (i wasn't there so i don't know what actually happened)

>>20688308

"so bad he doesn't publicize his japanese skills" is better than a fluent speaker who learned the language as a child yeah ok

>>20688331
just put 寝取られ ロールプレイング 女性視点 in the search bar doofus

>>20688347
Jorge Chan white knight. You are so cool! Can I get a autograph?

matt's hidden videos have been posted here and he obliterates george. and george's fluency is limited to basic conversation. also george can't read lol

dang why u guys fightin

i know what u need

これが『イク』か・・・

>>20688347
らいおんきんぐ！！！！！！！！！！！！

You are so good with Japanese man. How do you do it? Is playing otome shoujo games and sucking Jorge Chan's dick the secret?

post the list of murasama reading mistakes

fwiw mattvsjapan obliterates himself

>>20688372
Yeah, I'm not gonna make it. Thanks

>>20688378
Both fucking suck.

>>20688347
The Eternal らいおんきんぐ strikes again.

>>20688396
STILL no idea what this is referring to imo

We all know that らいおんきんぐ can never be taken serious...

wrong matt doesn't suck

私はホロ、ヨイツの賢いオオカミです

yah he sucks hella

>>20688386
>>20688396
>>20688404
no idea who the fuck you guys are calling raionkingu but i really wish someone would post the original pic it's from because that shits funny

>>20688397

>>20688415
worst pic i've ever seen posted on this board desu i'd recommend going back to /v/ or /pol/ ftw

no one who knows any language would ever speak and act this way about a book https://streamable.com/yr6fm

>>20688414
Already posted it.
>>20687903

>>20688425
seconded
>>20688428
also seconded

>>20688425
Okay らいおんきんぐ

hows about u lion king me biotch ??!

>>20688335
You really suck at hiding the fact that you are らいおんきんぐ aren't you?

>>20688448
There can only be one らいおんきんぐ

Reminder that if you struggle for more than two weeks with kana, you should just give up on learning 日本語

reminder that わたしはゲイ

ホモ

>>20688481
Reminder if you study Japanese for 30 years like Jorge Chan and don't know what 林間学校 or 図星 means consider killing yourself. And yes, I'm talking about you too らいおんきんぐ

i doubt he studied japanese for 30 minutes let alone 30 years

>>20688506
Well the faggot said it himself lol.

And also, This will trigger the らいおんきんぐ

>>20688481
no one does this

らいおんきんぐ！！！！！！！！！！！！！

Jorge-Sama needs your help!!!!!!!

Where are you? O great らいおんきんぐ

https://youtu.be/UQCLzn9Wqew?t=1381

what the fuck is らいおんきんぐ

>>20688538
Who is this guy lol?

idk but its high time someone made men out of u boys

>>20688547
matt bender

i can't believe new year posters don't know who matt sama is

>>20688538
Kek didn't know his face stems from this video.

>>20688541
This is らいおんきんぐ
>>20687688
>>20687850
>>20687864
>>20687879
>>20687888
>>20688189
>>20688236
>>20688251
>>20688265
>>20688271
>>20688293
>>20688335
>>20688347
>>20688397
>>20688425
>>20688538
>>20688549

also i've noticed mattposting has really slowed down the past month or two. why is that

>>20688579
only half of those are me and btw i still have no idea who that is

>>20688579
nuh uh

>>20688584
Okay らいおんきんぐ

post yours

>>20688582
we dug up all there was to dig up on him and i assume he's been more diligent than ever with hiding his scary social interaction issues lately

>>20688591
Jorge-Chan what are you doing here on DJT?

Go play some more Starwoods Spaceschool.

>>20688596

>>20688596
i only got one. this guy is on some next level autism though, which is saying something considering where we are.

>>20688613
i aim to please

>>20688596
literally 0 ftw lmao

First post in the thread, I am らいおんきんぐ. You've got the wrong guy.

I'm らいおんきんぐ desu. ignore him

Ledditors really do like tribalism.

Gotta stick together!

Because I'm a faggot Dekinai.

Because that is the true power of the らいおんきんぐ

You are the embodiment of the らいおんきんぐ meme thus you are nothing but a joke.

Don't say I never fuckin did anything for you guys.

>>20688685
You will always be a らいおんきんぐ。。。

Feels sad man.

can someone r/outoftheloop me on らいおんきんぐ lol

>>20688695
Here.
>>20687903
>>20688579

Naisuヘビー級naボディ

>>20688705
actually what does that first image have to do with the lion king

>>20688710
Read it first.

>>20688715
ok now what

>>20688706
はどこ

>>20688723
らいおんきんぐ is number 4
don't know what he's talking about though but i found it

>>20688723
The one who created this image and claims it to be real is the らいおんきんぐ. He is still here defending Jorge-Chan. The らいおんきんぐ and his army of Ledditors will strike down anyone that talks shit about Jorge-Chan.

i don't have anything to do with that image tho

>>20688737
らいおんきんぐ detected.

how did 虎王 get his hands on the teachers paperwork ??

>>20684991
>waaaah the guy in Japan has motivation but I don't! Moooooommmmmyyyyyyyy!

>>20688746
Because the teacher is Jorge-Chan.

自殺　（すいーさいど）

私（ゲイ）

肛門　（えいぬす）

母乳　（ぶらすとみるく）

射精　（えじゃくれーしょん）

虎王　（らいおんきんぐ）

らいおんきんぐ　（ゲイ）

surprised no ones said it yet but grats on ur autism and ocd lmao

鰐　（わに）

its not even me

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CAaJ_WyJ9RY&t=611