/jp/ - Otaku Culture

haha hey matt here you know whats really cringe i mean besides my neckbeard receding hairline bedroom with manga and cartoons plastered all over it piss jug the fact i went to japan to live the high school dream only to eat toilet meshi and do flashcards instead my authoritative tone about things i have no idea about my wikipedia math all the material i parrot and try to pass off as my own my racist tendencies my blog from like 8 years ago where i said i wanted a japanese girlfriend that muramasa vid lmao that time i said "itchaban tsuyoee gaijeem ni nawitai" that time i said smugly that talking japanese for guyjims is just too cringe for me that time toilet head came over and i bottomed for him that time i tried to talk shit about jorge the japones from cero guy who was kindly patient with my autism that time i shit all over some kid irl about how hes learning japanese wrong and im the best and then talked about it on the internet and last but not least that time i realized i dont even like anything from japan and have no use for a language i dedicated my entire seisyun to and defined my existence by how great i was at learning it (in my mind) ?

the op

>>20158730
Learn 3000 cards first, the most common words of course.
But you don't need to wait until they mature.

I'm not up to date on text hooking software. I see the guide still recommends ITHVNR, but Google brings me to this https://github.com/Artikash/Textractor which sells itself as a successor. Any reason not to prefer it?

>>20158730
Did you do RTK really really fast? That young to mature ratio is kinda crazy.

There is no reason to wait for them to mature before moving on. Just make sure you keep doing the reps or you will forget them and will have wasted all that time you spent learning them.

>>20158756

post some nukechan

nuke chans a all right dude i wish hed get on the right track with his nihongo

>>20158767
>Being this obsessed with an eceleb
>Writing that much about him
>Knowing this much about him

やれやれ

>>20158730
After you've done Core10k twice (delete deck and restart from scratch once all cards hit mature) you can start reading manga, before then just keep doing anki and watching english subbed anime.

>>20158839
>responding to pasta

last thread was all delete mature cards youre wasting precious seconds
this thread is all keep doing reps forever or itll have all been for nothing

Reminder to set your Interval Modifier to 150%

nah this thread is https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gkt5nT60xBA#t=249

So before I do literally anything else I have to memorize how to read/write/pronounce Hiragana and Katakana, right?
How long will that actually take? 2 weeks? 3 weeks?

>he doesn't delete cards with over two week intervals

>>20158861
Truthfully? 2-4 weeks

If you ask this thread? Around 2-10 hours depending on if you're retarded or not

>>20158861
you can do it in one week, don't aim for perfection, use djtkana until you get them right 90% of the time and then read shit and check when you forget to get to 100% of the time

>>20158861
however long it takes you to write em all in the notebook 50 fucken times

>>20158861
If you don't already know them by now you can consider yourself as retarded.

Whose the elderly couple thats been on japanews this past week

when did you guys realize that you didn't really want to learn japanese after all but you were already in too deep

not applicable

you?

>>20158906
Took me three years

>>20158906
when i realized i could just watch dubs ┐(‘～` )┌ https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nw4Sng23YH0&t=316

>sony censoring Japanese games on their platform
>might end up causing games to be censored when being made so they won't even have an uncensored version for PC
Why even learn Japanese anymore?

>>20158861
You don't have to learn to write them. Also, don't be afraid to move on without having a perfect understanding. While reading your chosen grammar guide (or anything after it), if you ever get stuck and think "how is this kana read again?", just hover over the word it shows up in with RikaiRebuilt or Nazeka and press "F" or "P" respectively to playback the JDIC audio clip for the word, or with Yomichan click the speaker button in the pop-up to do the same.

>話ししててください
this language

>>20158986
Sony of Japan and Sony of Europe/America aren't the same people, they're different branches of the same parent company
The fact that the games weren't censored in Japan should make this obvious. Sony Europe has less than zero control over what japanese devs put in their games before launch, and people would probably be forced to resign if they tried.
If I were you I wouldn't be worried. It's a DEFCON 4 at most.

>>20159007
See >>20158819
That's the Japanese version they are talking about. Also a Japanese dev said they apparently have to do the approval progress for their games with Sony in English now

frankly i think its good keep your hyper sex aids shit off of my videogame player

if i want retard titties ill just go on the computer

I hate anyone who had rich ass parents and funded your japanese high school dream. Just fuck you to hell and beyond.
>goes to my to my weeb room and cries my broken dreams out loudly

>>20159005
do you mean
>お話していてください
?

I would rather say
お話しくださいませんか

Also this 話ししててください is just wrong.

>>20159005
do you mean
>お話ししていてください
?

I would rather say
お話しくださいませんか

Also this 話ししててください is just wrong.

>>20159054
youll be a better man knowing the life of having not and having to get it yourself as opposed to a manbaby who almost cries because he got shit talked on the internet

>>20159062
hey pal, you just blown in from dekinai town?

>>20158986
>won't even have an uncensored version for PC
Why would they do that? It's eroge. Does it really sell better on consoles?

>>20159078
You realize the average nip does not know how to use a computer, right?

>>20159093
We're obviously not talking about the average nip here.

>>20159078
It's not really the eroge I'd be worried about, it's the bigger games like Yakuza that might end up censoring their games for all versions so they can have only one version to take care of, which would be whatever Sony lets them release

>>20159078
they wouldnt make them otherwise

but fuck modern eroge just enjoy the medium at its best and play the classics when the girls still had some semblance of beauty and werent just retard blowup sex doll drawings

Does anyone play VRchat and hang out with JP players?

>>20159117

>>20158861
like one afternoon with realkana

>>20159117
current gen of vr is bad news avoid it like the plague its too soon to live the real dream

>>20159117
I can't afford a VR headset and a computer powerful enough for VR.

>>20159140
You know you can play VRchat on a normal PC screen, right?
It just plays like a normal first person/third person walk around game

>>20159146
now this is some aids why would you even bother when you could just do something fun like anki reviews

>>20159146
That sounds sad, like being the kid in the wheelchair. I'd rather lurk 2ch or even text message furries over mmo chat.

>>20159140
fwiw youre in the more respectable position because the true otaku lifestyle is having old shit

>>20159139
Current gen isn't quite at justwerks(tm) yet, but it's definitely amazing already. It's basically in the wild west phase right now, which is extremely fun if you're into that kind of stuff. I've already upgraded to full body from oculus rift, and plan on continuing PC upgrades soon.

Are you going to hit the 9th level in a year? If not you'd better step it up.

>>20159209
problem is i dont think the current hardware is a good mix with human body

yall are just guinea pigs right now while having paid your entry into the study

im waiting till its more matured and i can truly be like that one pic just vegged out in the corner lookin like shit but in my vr world im in heaven

>>20155303
ask again in about a week

>>20159251
what if he doesn't wanna ask then you bitch

Why can't my fucking wrist heal so I can start reading a lot more every day.

>>20159250
Some people enjoy being on the bleeding edge, even when it's jank.

>>20159279
idk
>>20159292
get a foot pedal

>>20159292
wait reading is your issue and not jacking off???

>>20159316
That's unironically an issue too actually.

can't you just read/jack off with the other wrist?

「そんなうまい他人のもん勝手に食うジジイは地獄に落ちないのか。自分のことを棚に上げて文句言うのは団塊世代の悪い癖だぞ……食うなっつの！」
what is that なっつの！ at the end?

Reminder that Japanese is THE HARDEST language to learn and you are so smart for learning it

みんな頭いいね lol

>>20159379
How is chinese hard?

>>20159249
I've already read 3,000,000+ words in the last six months and my passive vocabulary is much lower than 9,000

i only have 20 unseen cards left on my mining deck i started a few months ago. i don't really get many new words when most of the japanese i read is slice of life shit and artists twitter.

what do? i don't really see most of the difficult/specific genre type words i have learned so far but it is nice to know words i might need someday

should i just go back to core10k or something? i finished 6k. maybe someone could be nice enough to upload their mining deck

>>20159390
Temporal rankings for the difficulty of languages are kinda misleading; the hardest part of learning any language is committing time and honest effort. That means that difficult languages are difficult because they take a lot of time, not the other way around.

>>20159417
>i don't really get many new words when most of the japanese i read is slice of life shit and artists twitter.
try something else?

儂とお前の付き合いでそんな不義理はせんわい。
what is せんわい, my good people of djt?

>>20159420
>difficult languages are difficult because they take a lot of time, not the other way around.
the fuck?

Reminder that Cure Dolly is cute.

>>20159417
Having unseen cards in your mining deck isn't good, that means you have a backlog that you're adding your new words to. And using someone else's mined words defeats the point of mining.

Just go with the flow, keep reading more and doing less anki.

>>20159438
Except for you, every language is difficult for you.

long-term skills taking a long time to acquire and being difficult to acquire are
literally
the
same
thing

>>20159440

>>20158748
What's something easy to start reading at a semi-consistent pace?
I've been doing anki for some months now, but everything is such a pain in the ass to read i usually just skip it.

>>20159460
かっこいい

>>20159460
Kawoii ^_^

>>20159464
just keep watching subbed anime and doing onky until it doesnt feel like a pain in the ass to read anymore

>>20159464
Eromanga.

>>20159464
got what u need bro https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rCMx9DGl9Y0

>>20159464
there's a whole section of the wiki dedicated to answering this question

reading physical manga is annoying, the spines are too sticky or thick or something and i have to strain my hands to constantly spread it open, as well as some words being very hard to see that are close to middle of page

but manga scans seem to be of poor quality, is reading manga just a meme?

>>20159589
manga rules, physical copies are inherently superior to digital, and words that would be very hard to see in physical copy are gonna be even less visible in digital.
all that shit having been said i read 99% of my series digitally and only have physicals of Truly the Best Shit

>>20159589
I love reading physical manga

the annoying part is keeping it open to reference when I need to look something up, but i have qt fire sisters book marks that i use to keep my place



I don't think i could ever switch over to scans

>>20159603

i prefer it to scans but i'm just sick of straining my hands/wrists so i am going to go to scans instead. also i feel like a bitch waiting for new volumes to come out when there are 30 chapters already scanned online. if they sold it like a notepad it would be great.

>>20159375
な = negative command ("don't u fuckin' dare 食う m8 i swear on me mum")

っつ = って = って言う = っと言う

>>20159375
https://jisho.org/search/%E3%81%A3%E3%81%A4

>>20158840
>>20159477
>>20159604
Manga isn't reading.

>>20159589
"Reading manga" is not a meme it's not even reading, you're just a massive pleb.

>>20159693
thanks for the post autism-kun i'm glad to know there's still one dummy around here willing to ctrl+f all day in order to btfo people who read manga

>>20159603
I often find the opposite to be true. Because of the small size of most tankoubon, the small text outside of bubbles can be difficult to read in physical, but with half-decent scans they're a lot easier to make out since they're larger. Also what they said about stuff in the middle of the page.

>>20159464
Flyable Heart

>but everything is such a pain in the ass to read i usually just skip it.
Then you may as well quit Japanese because you're never going to learn it.

>>20159693
but thats where you are for the hundred somethingth time wrong m80 https://streamable.com/j9bs5

>>20159710
theres nothing easy about sitting thru flyable shit

>>20159464
Typical ankidrone.

>>20159735
that's clearly been edited for an impressionable audience, no doubt the original had her saying 食べられる

When will I be able to remember what the passive, causative, and potential look like so I stop confusing them?

>>20159765
do you think about that kind of stuff when you read english? like do you read this sentence and go "okay he's using the ___ verb form of that word which means that blah blah" no you don't
literally just read more and eventually it won't be a problem!

>>20159765

Don't be a nerd just read lmao and you will understand grammar eventually

>>20159765
about 10 hours of anime

>>20159768
No because I've seen it enough that it's become ingrained but it's only become ingrained because I can actually recognize the conjugations instantaneously.

>>20159772
I have hundreds.

>>20159777
>I have hundreds.
Damn, we have an anime expert here.

>>20159785
I never even implied that but hundreds is a lot more than 10.

>>20159777
its really not that hard to recognize the nijongo ones immediately, one is せる and one is れる

>>20159790
I know so that's why it's sad that after weeks of reading I still cannot for the life of me remember which is which.

>>20159795
if your comprehension is so bad you can't tell from context at least some of the time, it's hard to call what you are doing "reading"

>>20159802
Yea but it's easier to call it that than "having to look up every word in a sentence yet still not know what's being said."

>>20158788
Textractor seems good to me, from what little I've used it. The repetition detection algorithm is different and it supports some more engines. It doesn't seem to be able to auto detect processes you've saved and hook them, or copy text by just selecting which makes it slightly less convenient to use. Worth a look at least.

>>20159826
ideally you look up every word in the sentence and as a result understand what's being said, and after enough time spent doing this it starts to stick and you no longer have to look up every word

if you can't get to the "understand what's being said" step consistently then rinse and repeat using some milder soap instead >>20159494

>>20159828
>autohook
>tfw I never noticed this
what a godsend.

I just got fucked up by a J-J definition I misread several months ago and misunderstood the word it was defining for that entire time as a result. don't force the monolingual transition, kids, do it naturally.

>>20159888
don't stress it it had no negative effects. go monolingual early guys.

>>20159906
yeah i guess all that time spent thinking that people were talking about fishhooks when they were actually talking about nibbles was well-spent

>>20159949
just use j-e too to make sure you have a gist of it, then view j-j as a refinement. go monolingual early.

>>20159434
せん＝せぬ＝しない

わい is some kinda old timer gobi probably something like よ

Would someone be so kind as to tell me what the first kanji is, please?

>>20159976
蘇る冒涜

>>20159993
Thank you anon.

>>20159955
if you're using j-e then it's not monolingual

>>20160010
it's called the monolingual transition...transition...

>>20159888
j-j is a waste of time, stick with j-e

>>20160015
fuck off matt

>>20160015
dumb mattdrone being dumb

>>20160024
because i destroyed your retarded argument with a single word you forgot? haha, nice try.

posting ecelebs should be banned from djt

new video from our guy.

>>20160030
oh my god you're LITERALLY the argumentative autistic mattdrone go get yourself banned you piece of shit

>>20160053
no idea what you're talking about. just appreciate that you were being difficult and i capitalized on a mistake you made.

>>20160010
who the fuck cares. you don't get better by the dictionary you chose. you get better by getting closer to 10,000 hours of anime.

Maybe I'm wrong but didn't the extensions in his "low key anki setup" already exist months ago? Was it actually them that made one of the extensions or did they copy it?

>>20160062
>you don't get better by the dictionary you chose
that's wrong though, not doing j-j as soon as possible is dumb

>>20160092
this argument sounds great when you still think you learn words by repeatedly seeing their definitions

>>20160075
They existed years ago.

>It's actually about a specific subset of Anki optimization that I call "low key Anki"
No, the developer of those add-ons gave them that name, not you, Matt.

>>20160075
>>20160166
He clarifies this in one of the articles he links under the video.

>https://youtu.be/OMCCeeHnaFA?t=290
lmao

apparently $2,500 a month isn't enough money for him to go to the effort of making videos anymore so he's going to start writing blogposts instead

>>20160182
he STILL calls his bullshit i+1 instead of n+1

a complete fraud

this video has nothing to do with the title. it's literally just a channel update and website announcement.

>>20160201
Tf is n+1 anyway

>matt thread
HEY GUYS GUESS WHAT I JUST DID I LITERALLY
SHARDED
IN
MY
PANTS
THEYRE ALL POOPIE NOW XD

>>20160215
n+1 means what matt calls i+1

what matt calls i+1 is not what i+1 actually means as a technical term

>>20160228
Has this helped your Anki retention rate?

>>20160228
Man on one hand you're right but on the other hand your anger is funny.

>>20160238
yes =^n_n^=!!!! and it's all thanks to matt MATT MATT MATT MATT MATT MATT HEY DID YOU GUYS HEAR ABOUT MATT OMG YOU WILL NEVER BELIEVE WHAT HE DID THIS TIME HE SAID
"guys you should use onkie but only like, a little, other than that please [SUBSCRIBE TO MY PATREON HERE]"

>>20160240
you're*

>>20160253
>you're*
ESL?

>>20160257
>fell for the oldest bait in the book
EPIC trolled EPIC btfo EPIC OWNED
it's no wonder u guys listen to and religiously follow matt if this is what you're working with
speaking of matt, MAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAATT SENSEIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIII KAKKOIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIII

im cranky that MPC is giving me a "failed to render video" error on a show i was going to finish tonight

why tf can't I download from lhscan anymore

>>20160182
An actual good video

>>20160182
>blue pill anki settings
no thanks

>>20159431
You've never read "slice of life shit" your life so fuck off back /int/.

warm up with manga
enjoy some LN
cool back down with anime
behold: the ultimate 3 step process to a healthy japanese learning experience now SUBSCRIBE TO MY FUCKING PATREON or i'll continue to shill myself in these threads and then make videos where i say "4chan (which i don't lurk) is dumb because they keep talking shit about me (not that i lurk there, i don't shill there i promise)"

>>20160494
not him but how did you know?

>>20160494
not that guy but I don't see why you'd get so mad at someone suggesting you expand your reading genres unless you literally have no interests outside of slice of life

>>20160494
the dude directly said that what he read was the reason he didn't find new words, what would you suggest instead

>>20158748
Guys, I'm playing kara no shoujo, but the japanese is too correct and easy for me. Any visual novels where dialogue is more informal/broken and slangy? Something that reads more similarly to how japanese might speak in real life. It would be cool if it treated complex themes, too.

Why doesn't ”私は...です" translate to "I am" in this case?

>>20160667
There's an invisible を持ってる after 下痢 there that you can't see because you don't know Japanese.

>invisible を持ってる
Can someone else confirm this?

as for me, diarrhea

>>20160694
Yeah this makes more sense I guess. "Invisible" words makes no fucking sense.

>>20160667
Because ”私は...です" doesn't mean "I am".\

>>20160700
>"Invisible" words makes no fucking sense
I mean, even if he's wrong in this case there's a lot of omission of things that "should" be understood in Japanese, so get used to it

>私は外人です doesn't mean I'm a gaijin
that's how idiotic you sound like

>>20160711
お前はひどい下痢です。

>>20160707
I know but leaving out "を持ってる" never makes sense. Or else you can just say 私はくるまです.

>>20160711
>foreigner using 外人 instead of 外国人
cringe

>>20160723
https://streamable.com/l6h0h

>>20160721
What if I identify as a car?

>>20160744
Whats the Japanese derivation for cringe?

>>20160759
if by derivation you mean word it's hiku

>>20160744

matt used gaijin and made some jap pussy wet. so much for 'cringe'. faggots.

>>20160777
>made some jap pussy wet
>japanese person telling him かっこいい
they say sugoi or kakoii if you can say like two words in japanese. you know you're fluent when you fuck up and they look at you funny instead of telling you your japanese is good

https://youtu.be/_DPQ58pUTME?t=445

daily karaoke with nuke-chan

>>20160795
stop posting this already

>>20160795
I lasted five seconds what do I win?

>jamal stops posting
>so did the venus poster
i always knew it's the same person

おはようおにいちゃん

ねこがかぜひいたみたい

おにいちゃんもかぜにはきをつけてね

>>20160807
>venus poster
who?

How do I attach my spirit to a cold?

>>20161011
かぜ means wind, retard.

>>20161011
>idiom
>noun
>1A group of words established by usage as having a meaning not deducible from those of the individual words (e.g. over the moon, see the light).

>弁（辨/瓣/辯）
And here I was wondering why this little shit has so many meanings. Shinjitai was a mistake.

Literally who cares about kanji meanings

>>20161034
風は↑ふくもので

風邪はひ↑くものだよ

yoshi time for my reps

>>20161036
>>20161066
わかりやすい皮肉にマジレスしないでください

妹がオナニーしている

Uh so I'm coming back to study nips after taking a few months off to learn the web dev meme.
I have 3k cards due in Anki, what's the best way to proceed?

>>20161153
watch 10000 hours of anime in a row then come back for more instructions

私もオナニーしよう

>>20161153
Limit it to 300 reviews per day or drop it and start mining if you're not already.

>>20161153
Abandon the deck and start from scratch. If the deck was Core or some other premade thing, don't bother re-doing it, just start mining from here on out. Once you start reading, a lot of that Core vocab should come back to you pretty quickly with how common it is.

Let's get moody in here:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sm3oRBhnk-0

>>20161153
Tag and suspend them then start chipping away some reasonable amount after you've done all new and due cards for the day.

>>20158861
It took two days for me. Don't focus on being fast with them, just in knowing which is which. If I were you I wouldn't pay a ton of attention in katakana because you will forget it after a week, as in Anki you're not going to be exposed to katakana for a while.
Of course, if you are native English speaker it will take you a bit more to get the pronunciation right. But the most important thing is to memorize the kana, speed only comes through exposure

>>20161094
オフトゥンにおかえりください

>>20161227
>you're not going to be exposed to katakana for a while.
Depends. I learned Japanese to play imported JRPG and katakana was the single most useful thing in the beginning.

>people against monolingual transition
successful language learner LingoSteve

>people who shill monolingual transition
Matt and his gang of autistic dekinais

need I say more?



hmm

鳳凰

>>20161279
ちゅうにだ！つかまえろ！

>>20161251
there ARE people outside of the AJATT cult who switch to J-J dictionaries and support doing so, but they also happen to not share very much of the AJATT philosophy at all, and they don't have anything against using J-E dictionaries for obscure terminology best understood through its english name

>>20161067
馬子にも衣装

>>20161251
>e-celeb says this
>other e-celeb says that
>thus my opinion is this
i think thats all you can say actually

Proof that you know Japanese.

What is this called in Japanese?

>>20161375
死

kandume

where's my price?

>>20161387
>>20161389
Wrong it's called プルトップ

This sentence makes zero sense to me. Can somebody help me out? お願い

so did this place get taken over by the Ajatt retards?

>>20161395
そう
（爪の）死こそ

>>20161411
more like retards hating on ajatt retards

>>20161411
It got taken over by redditors. Blame /pol/

So guys, we did it, we reached a quarter of a million

高砂席

>>20161317
それ孫にも衣装だとおもってた

いみがおかしいのにきがつかなかった

てへぺろ

>>20161479
儂は左に

>>20161375
それは

>プルタブ

あたしのまわりでは

ほうげんかもしれないけど

>>20161515
>あたし

毬井ゆかりは、ニンゲンがロボットに見える。
how to I know weather this means "Yukari Mari was seen by humans as a robot" or "Yukari Mari saw human beings as robots"

>>20160553
Mahoyo?

>>20161515
とうきょうことばだと

>プルタップ

だって

ほうげんはつらい

ローヤーＮ＋＋＋＋＋ぶんしょみつけた

いってることはかんたんだけど

わざとむずかしくかく
http://www.jpaa-tokai.jp/activities/media/detail_65_0_2005.html

>>20161375
this isnt a really good test because if u played the epic visual game "if my heart had wings" u should know this

>>20161645
Okay then, what's this called?

>>20161375
ベプシ :-DDDDDD

>>20161671
茶碗

>>20161679
Only 50% correct.
Look at the whole picture, one is bigger than the other.

>>20161671
┐(‘～` )┌

>>20161671
thats a pretty unfair question for this board in any langauge tho dont u think??

>>20161726
Why?
If they are fluent they should know?

it's a ちゃわん

NEXT.

>>20161732
idk dude i think this suffices then >>20161732 do u really need the 夫婦 part?

Probably a strange question, but is there some way to look up bad Japanese puns? Bad as in something like the majority of https://youtu.be/danvtQBjLfo
Like I'm guessing there must be one for 蛮語/番号/晩御飯 or maybe even 番号本(本 replacing 帳) and 晩御飯, but I wouldn't have any idea where to look for them.

>>20161733
>>20161748
It's a pair of ちゃわん with one bigger than the other called 夫婦茶碗
Well, I said it's only half correct. A native would have known.

>>20161759
yea a native if youre say like a *a** except better its totally reasonable to live ur life for a real long time never knowing

maybe if u watch a lot of daytime tv or something idk ┐(‘～` )┌

btw girls can eat hearty too fuck sexism!!! fight for your right to equal bowl size

do you think these lasses use the tiny bowl?? i dont think so

post some jap mumble rap jamal

>>20161686
めおとぢゃわん

>>20161792
i only like the articulate stuff https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6Pge2nb979k

>>20161789
Reminds me of https://vndb.org/v11225

>>20161759
ふうふっていうの？

あたしのちほうでは

めおとぢゃわん

>Putting 着る and 切る right next to each other
The ordering of this deck is aggressively retarded

>>20161815
its 50/50 split the deck and the user that are retarded hope that helps

>>20161757
10000 hours of anime would provide you with enough bad puns

>>20161789
hot

>>20161815
NUKE, you better explain this SHIT in the stream

>>20161803
it should thats what it is just more beauty : )

>>20161815
That's far from the worst thing in Core. That barrage of 上げる、上る、上がる、上がる、上り、下げる、下がる、下りる、下ろす、下り、下る is a strong contender for that title.

>>20161815
事切れる

>>20161828
There's nothing to explain. He grouped the 2000 word list by iknow, and sorted those words by the 2001.Kanji.Odyssey index. The vanilla iknow list was a dictionary sort for the most part.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JtcyvtepPiU

I'm too slow for this

>>20162012
Did he obtain permission from the copyright holders?

>>20162017
quite literally because u go one character at a time and cant just recognize the bigger shapes

its a read more thing actually

>>20162043
>>>/a/123764706

>>20162043
>>>/a/123764706
https://forum.koohii.com/thread-12568.html

TL;DR - It was under Creative Commons when Nuke made the deck, then iKnow changed the license and filed copyright claims against the Core decks and got them all taken down from AnkiWeb.

>>muh copyrighted flashcards

>>20162125
poor nuke. he didn't deserve this. I'm on his side.

>>20162125
No. I followed up on that and found out it was the copyright holder of the images normally shared with iKnow decks that were only licensed to iKnow by a stock photo company. That company was the one that sent the take down notice to Damien Elmes (the guy that made Anki), who overly complied to where he wanted decks removed that just had image file names (which was my deck). I didn't really bother to make a new deck to upload because I wasn't studying Japanese at that time.

About the creative commons though, iKnow tried to use weasel words to make it seem they didn't release their stuff (the word list, sentences, and audio) under creative commons in 2008. I shut that shit down quick.

https://www.reddit.com/r/LearnJapanese/comments/2xgt0n/request_has_anyone_received_a_cease_and_desist/

Personally, I could give a shit about Core decks now. If you feel the need to use Anki pre-made vocab decks, the new JLPT Tango decks are more superior. They have a much more professional ordering, don't overuse pronouns, and have a great chapter and section grouping as well. Why they don't use seiyuu voices, the native speakers are still great.

Do you know your particles?
Answer wa/ga for relevant sentences. Justify if you want.
Don't cheat by googling.

professional ordering ftw

>>20162183
が
? I would say で but that doesn't seem to be an option.
が
は
が
は
が
が
は
は
は
は
が
が
が

>>20162168
you can always get isolated word audio from the jdic audio pack in the CoR and this extra archive that contains files the jdic audio pack missed https://mega.nz/#!sdM0EIYJ!q5SJvtcndJFLEcIaE0mI1v2laqUnRGJmbrQlilcn2mU

the hard part of making shared decks that don't suck is writing definitions that don't suck desu. the right way to define 適当 depends on exactly who's going to use your deck, if you don't keep that in mind you're going to do a 適当な job like iKnow did. you don't need to worry about sentences or sentence audio, if someone needs those then they're not reading and listening or they're early enough in the process that they should stick to getting examples from their grammar guide

>>20162183
ga for all of them that dont already have ga because if it doesnt have ga its not a sentence and then for the ones with ga ill just play it safe and put wa (ha) ┐(‘～` )┌

>>20162168
Oh man, that sucks. Those terrible images which were the least important part of the decks and which hardly anyone even used were what got them taken down. What a cruel twist of fate.

>the new JLPT Tango decks are more superior
Maybe so, but the fact that they're made from copyrighted material which can't be openly shared is a massive blow to their appeal. As it stands, most people can't even get hold of them without buying textbooks which they have no intention of using and which may not even be available in their country (at least not without paying expensive international shipping costs).

>>20162183
>>20162203
>? I would say で but that doesn't seem to be an option.
That also seems to be the most natural to me.

>>20162222
with で then wheres the doing ??

i know lets have our resident champion nuke chan explain it after all hes been at this for like a decade and a half im sure hes got particles mastered

>>20162228
so it's に then

きのうは　げいじゅつさいに　いった
でも、ゲイ人が　なかった
かなしいほど　そばに　なきたくて・・・

>>20162183
Here are my answers based on ~don't think, feel~

1 - が
2 - で
3 - が
4 - は
5 - が
6 - は
7 - が
8 - が
9 - は
10 - は
11 - は
12 - は
13 - が
14 - が
15 - が

>>20162214
I think I've shared links to the JLPT Tango decks almost 100 times. The addresses for proof of purchase have been all over the world, so it seems accessible. The worst examples are those that seem to pay shipping costs that are almost as much as the $12 book, but most are just book costs since it's the e-book format.

Yeah, I get it seems stupid to buy a book you don't use to get an Anki deck for free. However, the publishers of the books are aware of my activities (I've been in communication with the lady that helps with audio production). If I wasn't doing things the right way, they would shut me down hard. Anyway, we're getting the first group of people finishing up the N5 deck and reviewing their results. I'm on the N3 deck and will do the same when I'm done with that one. If there's a enough positive reception, this may be one of the cases where anon's are kindly asked to make a purchase in pursuit of their goals (odd given the anti-Anki vibe building here recently).

That said, I'm not naive. I know the decks to the first book were shared here. Eventually, whoever covertly did that will do the same with my other decks. I'm just not going to encourage it with people that I share the decks with.

>>20162263
no dude everything here is fast and free no advertising

is nuke /ourguy/?

matt pretends never to visit /djt/ and gets emotional due to the bullying, whereas nuke openly posts here and doesn't take criticism personally

the only reason he hasn't gotten good at japanese is because he's genuinely so nice and helpful that just spends all his time helping others

truly the most based boomer

to truly help others you gotta help yourself first tho ┐(‘～` )┌

>>20162263
You're a fucking retard if you think anyone here will spend money on beginner material that they can get for free in 1000 other places. Try Leddit instead, the average IQ is lower there.

nuke is the gordon ramsey of japanese learning. think about it.

>>20162228
The で only sounds good here because it would turn into 出会った.
I think に is the best answer here if it has to be a particle.

No perfect answer yet. The level in DJT sure is low

>>20162278
it definitely is weird textbook shit that really having a wa vs ga assignment is like an immediate red flag however the way its set up the right particle is necessary to convey the proper information by the grammar rules

the second line needs the first line

>>20162273
The best money you can spend to learn Japanese is whatever it cost to get a NetFlix account. Beyond that, yeah, you don't have to spend a dime to learn Japanese. You still have to put in the effort, which let's face it, most people won't do either.

However, sorry to burst your bubble anon, but there are other anon's that will spend money on beginner material if they think it'll help. Still, no matter what, we all need to get our 10,000 hours in. You can't buy that.

>>20162288
Isn't netflix region locked based on your IP?
Unless you live in Japan you can't access half the content they'd have available.

>>20162300
Since when is IP an issue?

>>20162300
VPN is your friend. Beyond that, you can set your region to Japan or language to Japanese to access shows that aren't region locked, but not shown because there were no English options. Also, it unlocks access to Japanese dubs and subs on non-Japanese shows.

>>20162263
>(odd given the anti-Anki vibe building here recently)
The anti-Anki thing has its rationale. There are people out there who learn languages (including Japanese) fluently without ever touching Anki, and there are a lot of people who simply just don't like doing like doing flashcards to the point where doing flashcards and not doing flashcards can mean the difference between them continuing to study Japanese or quitting because they don't enjoy the process (same can be said for isolated kanji study like RTK).

It's also in part a reaction again what we call "Ankidrones", i.e. people who do nothing but Anki because they don't want to leave their comfort zones and start reading. It's necessary to deter and discourage excessive Anki use in order to counter this behaviour.

>That said, I'm not naive. I know the decks to the first book were shared here.
Wasn't that an incomplete version?

>>20162288
永遠の新米からアドバイスが悪いんだな・・・

>>20162288
More like a VPN for free TV streaming if anything.

And as long as core2k/6k/10k is online easy to find and download for free there's no reason whatsoever to spend money on an Anki deck.

>>20162307
tell us more about what you do with vpns

>>20162305
I tried a open Japanese VPN once to watch stuff on nhk but it was so slow even though it was 300p or less.
I can't imagine watching netflix with that.

>>20162183
１：context sensitive, can't answer
２：は and が are both unnatural here in modern standard japanese
３：が
４：は
５：が
６：は
７：が
８：null particle is preferable to either and the choice excluding the null particle is context sensitive
９：は
１０：は
１１：は
１２：は
１３：は
１４：の lol
１５：ハ

>>20162308
>and there are a lot of people who simply just don't like doing like doing flashcards to the point where doing flashcards and not doing flashcards can mean the difference between them continuing to study Japanese or quitting because they don't enjoy the process (same can be said for isolated kanji study like RTK).
Speaking of which, this is the big problem with a lot of the established methods out there for learning Japanese. People who hate flashcards, kanji study, etc. are simply not accounted for. Even with AJATT where Khatz made all that fuss about how important it is to have fun, he still mandates RTK and sentence mining for everyone who follows his method, ignoring the fact that for many people this is a deal-breaker which will make them want to quit learning Japanese.

>>20162321
Congrats, that's the worst answer by far.

>>20162327
you're welcome, i learned japanese from anime

>>20162321
lmfao matt???

>>20162330
not 10000 hours of anime i reckon

>>20162330
you're welcome
○ thank you

>>20162307
hey nuke how many novels have you read?

>>20162336
stupid 4chin deleting my emojis!!!!! >:(

>>20162330
な、なに！！
ばかな！

>>20162183
post the answers then cunt

40 minutes later you're probably not going to get any more responses

>>20162335
nah even 10000 hours isnt learning japanese think of it like resources gathering

very low quality resources but with enough of them you can get started learning japanese

inb4 the answer sheet has several incorrect preferred answers on it

>>20161301
>and they don't have anything against using J-E dictionaries for obscure terminology best understood through its english name
**** doesn't either.

>>20162350
a list of answers isnt gonna really do anyone any good anyway theres fundamental lack of understanding demonstrated by all comers so far

better watch your curedolly vids

>>20162358
>fuck doesn't either.
confused_anime_girl.png

>>20162361
at least mark our mistakes

hello there i just found the answer sheet and three of the clozes are supposed to be filled in with particles other than は and が

>>20162381
yea why front instead of just blow some noobs the fuck out ??

>>20162341
Not much. If you count the drama transcripts on Dramanote, and 300 pages is one novel, then the equivalent of about four novels. That's the main reason I'm doing that whole "Let's Read Japanese" series.

You anons have the right idea about light novels and visual novels. Mangas have their place, but reading them is sort like reading subtitles which is way different than reading proper Japanese books.

>>20162389
in english please

>>20162394
why
u
frontin?

if you want to fuck around with noobs with stuff from public academic papers on my turf you should probably pick something i didn't read during my mid 2016 L2 acquisition papers binge

>>20162308
This has nothing much to do with the rest of your conversation but
>reading
My problem is that I can't find compelling content.
I can watch dramas and youtube videos and listen to idol radio and read short internet articles and chiebukuro confessions just fine but when I try to read long prose I just find it tedious and want to do something else. It's not even a problem with reading in a new language because I have no problem with slogging through Chinese shit.

>>20162350
wa: 6, 9, 11, 13
ga: 1, 3, 5, 7, 8, 10, 14, 15

>>20162269
**k* confirmed has TDS so no. There's still hope for **tt.

>>20162408
Did you never read anything translated from Japanese into English before you started learning Japanese?

There must be some VN or manga that you're interested in.

>>20162392
i was at a level much below yours when i started investing almost all my time into reading novels and i can't even begin to describe how much i improved in the past few months

you just can't get that sheer volume of exposure to japanese with other media

>>20162396
in english please

>>20162412
>TDS
?

>>20162425
なんでごまかすんだよ : )

Am I gonna make it?

>>20162430
make what

>>20162429
なんか楽しいんだ

>>20162430
have you heard of tags?

>>20162431
Will I reach the point where compelling content alone will propel me to fluency?
>>20162434
Yea why?

>>20162436
ask again later

Am I gonna make it my nigs?

>>20162417
The only one I can remember is the ln "The Empty Box and Zeroth Maria". As for manga I've finished every series I liked in Japanese and can't seem to get into new ones. Also manga isn't reading.

>>20162411
ni: 2, 12
to: 4

>>20162454
If you ditch writing.

ジャマールと話したい

>>20162481
俺になんのようだ？あぁ？

>all these cluttered ankis

disgusting

>>20162488
なんで我と会わないのか

>studied kanji in isolation
>know about 6000 words give or take
>finished tae kim twice
>bored as fuck
>anki droning
>suddenly I remember a visual novel I saw 2 years or so ago
>remember how disappointed I was when I saw the translation project was a bust
>download it on a whim
>start reading not expecting to get far
>reading is slow but my comprehension is very good.
>get lost in it for 2 hours
Bros. I was just putting reading visual novels off for so long, I don't know why I was so scared. It feels so good.

>>20162481
こんなわたしでよければ・・

>>20162518
　　・・・
きみだからいいだろう

Is this guy correct?
https://ogacha.wordpress.com/2012/03/09/%E3%80%8C%EF%BD%9E%E3%82%92%E9%80%9A%E3%81%97%E3%81%A6%E3%80%8D%E3%81%A8%E3%80%8C%EF%BD%9E%E3%82%92%E9%80%9A%E3%81%98%E3%81%A6%E3%80%8D%E3%81%AE%E9%81%95%E3%81%84/

Particular about the 日本語で、「す」で終わるものは能動的なニュアンスを持ちます。part

>>20162308
You can join my patreon if you want the full version https://www.patreon.com/SGJL If I'm going to come here and get treated so poorly I should be making a buck from it.

don't false flag

>>20162529
lmao nuke chan went to bed dude you cant fool me

tfw I will never be important enough to be false flagged

tfw i have been false flagged despite being irrelevant

>>20162392
>>20162417
Manga isn't reading though.

>>20159699
No problem, see above though.

>>20162549
>>20159735

>>20162522
Sounds about right but you would just know instinctively if you read and did your reps instead of reading shitty linguistics blogs

take it from --->ME<---
reading about linguistics and studying grammar barely do you any good, even if you do it in japanese
consume compelling content and also get, as jamal says, "quality language time"

>>20162522
>日本語で、「す」で終わるものは能動的なニュアンスを持ちます。
正しいと思います。
言われてみると確かに、「す」で終わる動詞で、能動的な意味を持たないものは1つも思いつか な い ですね。言い換えると、私が思いつく限り、このルールには例外が な い です。
逆に、能動的な意味をもつけれど、「す」で終わらない動詞は、（当然ながら）たくさんあります。
(SがOを)壊す/(Sが)壊れる
(SがOを)消す/(Sが)消える
(SがOを)倒す/(Sが)倒れる etc.

>>20162569
教えてくれてあざまる水産!

>>20162583
>と思います
fucking beta

>>20162600
this is possibly the most perfect response i could have gotten thank you

>>20162606
「fucking beta」と僕は思った。

>>20162609
it's 荒唐無稽 tho

>>20162623
lol

>>20162623
No it's JK用語.

https://youtu.be/izE90kzxO7A?t=99

What's the hentai doujin with the best plot out there?

>>20162655
erodoujinshi
and it's https://exhentai.org/g/35018/a6806d8dd3/

>>20162183
>>20162461
2は「で」
（理由：「動詞の「会う」は、「（人）に-（場所）で-会う」の形式しか取らないから）

4は、「さくら」が人名なら「と」で良いけど、普通人名はカッコ（「」）を使って表さないので、「さくら」は店名だと考えるのが自然です。
だから「で」が最も適切。

>>20162675
The original manuscript says that the three distraction questions only used で and に for original particles.

>>20162675
>>20162678
(That is to say, yes さくら is a 店名)

>>20162675
yeah that retard who posted ni/to is not me. answers are >>20162411, rest is dou demo ii (and obvious)

>>20162670
Pangya is nice and all but any non-loli ones?

>>20162698
as a rule of nature, it's metaphysically impossible for non-loli doujinshi to have good plot
either the girl has a good pot or the book does

>>20162713
cringe and filtered

>>20162713
咲具等

>>20162710
the best i can get you for that order is cross-dressing, are you still with me

>>20162732
Hit me senpai.

>>20162737
https://exhentai.org/g/1219000/e41b473ed6/

>>20162807
It's less do to with Nuke, and more to do with Matt.

Matt's ego knows no bounds and he unironically thinks he's some sort of language learning genius for stealing ideas from some Kenyan scam artist (who in turn stole his ideas from some Polish guys). In spite of having to apologize for every single original idea he's come up with, he still insists on trying to fix what isn't broken because he thinks he knows better than everyone else.

>>20162919
榛名モード入っている。
Plot was generic corruptionshit but thanks that was a fun easy read.

>>20162992
where'd you get the corruption from it was pure love baka surface level plebs

Now that Elon is a confirmed weeb expect more newfags around..

>>20163005
kek

>>20160347
hey dudes i slept on it and im still mad where can I download manga raws

英語の方が理解できないから
日本語で喋ってくださいね

お先にどうぞ

when using the vocab deck on anki, do you take time to repeat the pronunciation of the word and connect it with the characters shown, or simply use the deck to train recognition of the word with its meaning in english?

Apologies for the retarded beginner question.

>>20163183
多分無いね

>>20163183
2日間飲酒し、尻の穴がとても痛いと覚めた。
人生が簡単なときにそれをもっと楽しむべきです。

>>20163224
そう・・？

>>20163276
まあまあでも自分で働く気はない。

Is rakugo actually funny?

thanks to djt I've fucked up my pattern recognition and see nothing but できない and ゲイ

Post gore

>>20163325
A bit. Have you seen 昭和元祿落語心中?

>>20163364
>昭和元祿落語心中
I haven't, but the reason I asked is it got recommended to me by yt.

>>20163361
What program is this?

>>20163375
The anime itself is pretty solid but I can't guarantee that the bits of rakugo inside it are.

you should watch that rakugo show its the good 1

Hey guys I finished learning modern Japanese and now I want to learn to read the real classic shit like 平家物語, what resources do you recommend?

>>20163682
Is this m*** from 2016?

>>20163682
don't do it, but this book is a good resource

>>20164329
fucking japanese

i can't decide if this is really retarded or kinda brilliant

>>20164322
grisaia or muv luv

おはようおにいちゃん

あたしはまってる

にほんであおー

>>20164322
all these

>>20164385
when it was first posted there was a small argument on if that was a mistake

>>20164435
you probably review the word a lot by seeing it while reading, so you're lying to me.

>>20164440
i was wrong anyway it's in my deck with 0 lapses

>>20164487
it's the same as >>20164329
just to add, i think this is the most common usage of furigana that doesn't match: specifying a name when a character only uses a pronoun
i asked a while back if there's a term for this but it seems there is not

http://setsunasoft.com/language_community.html
Well, /djt/ btfo by an AJATTER. Who would've guessed, huh.

>>20164586
oh sorry i havent kept up please send him my apologies and patreon cheque

>>20164576
nobody writes that kinda shit about learning any other language lmao

and they are wrong about basically everything

>>20164576
jamal (djt's leader) BTFO

>>20164576
You don't have to do 100% immersion 100% of the time. You don't have to have a Leader or Guru to git gud. The fuck is this autist shit..

>>20164576
actually 1 thing that hes not wrong about english speaking japanese language learning community hubs are complete aids

but that doesnt mean you go learn language by yourself thats retarded and you never become fully legit that way

>>20164576
Guess I should leave DJT

>>20164658
ive been hopefully making people do this for a while now

>>20164576
Why does the fact that you retards keep posting shit related to Matt in every thread make me laugh? What are you getting out of it?

>>20164576
>Language learning is something done in solitude, by oneself.
I'm sure the language teachers who teach diplomats to acquire whatever new language they need would love to hear this

>>20164766
Eromanga.

>>20164766
out of pure curiosity is there anything other than anime that you are learning japanese for

>>20164771
haha thanks man, but this seems kinda bothersome. However it might be a good idea to start with picture books. There wouldn't be a way to read such books on PC with mouse over translation and automatic flash card creation and stuff. I really hate to waste time.

>>20164785
I don't know, I already though about doujins and stuff. But I can't stand unanimated stuff.

>>20164786
>>20164792
This wasn't me. Sorry I'm really only interested in anime. I don't even like how 99.9% of japanese females look and I'm not particular interested in their culture. I just watch mostly anime for entertainment and it feels dumb to read subs for years and years of my life.

>>20164790
This is actually not really that uncommon. Manga are in black and white and not animated. VNs are mostly not animated and feel extremely lifeless. LNs don't even have pictures and I don't like RPGs in general.

If you only want to watch anime why the fuck do you want to read anything? Just keep watching my dude. Once you hit the 100000 hours you will understand Nipponese no problemo

i really hate wasting time guys so in 6 months after i finish these flash cards im going to read hentai dojins and nhk easy a billion times better than yall べーだ

>>20164886
>after i finish these flash cards
You've already failed my dude

>>20164860
I'm not from the US and I learned English from playing FPS and watching southpark (no joke). Also I read a lot, but I didn't like the few translated LNs I tried to read so far. Could be the translation, but they didn't feel very eloquently written. More like some mainstream stuff like Harry Potter or anything from Stephen King.

>>20164862
>>20164863
>>20164878
I was planning on ignoring reading completely at first. But I realized that it will be much harder to learn it that way. Kana subs will help me at the beginning to understand better. But first I need to get fluent in Kana. Reading at my own pace will help me doing this.

Also our brain mostly likes making more connections when learning new things. It might be even beneficial to learn kanji together with the words. I'm not sure though, if I wanna go this route, since I will forget all about them as soon as I can completely switch to anime and turn of all subs.

>>20164914
can't really blame you. english is the king of content.

Is anyone going to fix the manga link in the guide? Or re-upload everything to that mega folder.