/jp/ - Otaku Culture

>>20135880
good OP image
looking forward to the shitposting about the OP contents

>>20135880
I don't think this girl is old enough to be smoking

>>20135880
literally me

>http://www.guidetojapanese.org/learn/category/grammar-guide/the-writing-system/
>Notice that 「ぢ」 sounds essentially identical to 「じ」 and both are pronounced as / ji /, while 「づ」 is pronounced like / dzu /.
This is wrong, isn't it? づ is "zu", which is why it's romanized as such in 訓令式ローマ字. Also, ぢ and じ aren't "essentially identical", they are identical.

I'm going to pass the N3 this year!

>>20135975
what you've described is approximately correct in the yellow region, to my limited understanding

>>20135880
Why wouldn't you recommend Rikaisama? It's pretty much the best.

>>20135975
There's a reason why づ used to be romanized as "du", don't forget romanizaiton is an approximation of actual sounds. In some places they're still distinct as evidenced by your picture.

>>20136011
>only works on insecure outdated browsers
have fun with your malware

>>20136011
It's abandonware and no longer works on up to date versions of Firefox (even ESR). The RikaiRebuilt dev is attempting to remake Rikaisama, but it has some pretty major bugs unfortunately (deconjugates る-ending godan verbs incorrectly, a bug shared by Yomichan, and it also tries to deconjugate things that aren't verbs as if they were).

おにいちゃん

なにこれ

ポストしにくい

>>20136032
>don't forget romanizaiton is an approximation of actual sounds
訓令式ローマ字 is a government-mandated modification of 日本式ローマ字 with identical sounds in modern standard Japanese merged (another example: お was "o" and を was "wo" in 日本式 but both お and を are "o" in 訓令式).

>In some places they're still distinct as evidenced by your picture.
Yeah, some rural areas of the backwater regions of Kyuushuu and Shikoku, far, far away from Tokyo where standard Japanese is spoken.

I won't object to a guide noting that the sounds are pronounced differently in certain dialects, but the guide should be instructing people on how these sounds are pronounced in Standard Japanese (標準語), and by saying づ is pronounced as dzu, Tae Kim isn't doing that (instead he's misleading beginners into speaking like 田舎者).

All grammar guide have mistakes. The question is whether those mistakes are important or not. Some of Tae Kim's mistakes are important, like refusing to call が a subject particle and that explicit subjects just have a different role in Japanese than English. Others are not, because they result in trivial misunderstandings that will be fixed on their own as the learner becomes better at Japanese, like calling the short causative "very rough slang".

How is this pronounced?

>>20136118
æ

>>20136118
put your throat in it like you're yelling but also demonstrating your masculinity

>>20136118
Watch any video from this channel with the Japanese subs on and you can find out the answer to that and more:
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCQYADFw7xEJ9oZSM5ZbqyBw/videos

>>20136129
i opened three videos and none of them had manually-written japanese subs

>>20136144
not that anon but just keep looking, luna says a lot of those characters since her throat is fucking wild

>>20136144
Most of the older ones do, I think.

>直接
>直截
finally came across the latter while reading

>>20136033
All the Asian countries run ancient Internet Explorer. Outdated browsers are part and parcel of learning Japanese.

>>20136199
i hope you're trolling

>>20136199
Not anymore.

>>20135880
かいらしいなぁ
これも創ったんやろか？
https://desu-usergeneratedcontent.xyz/int/image/1539/41/1539414449533.png
https://desu-usergeneratedcontent.xyz/int/image/1538/86/1538862100172.png

How do you concentrate on studying in the heat?
It's so hot I can barely think fuck I hate summer.

>>20136203
ゲームするなら

chromeつかうみたいになってる

なぜか

ちょろめともいう

Sort of off topic.
I was doing a project, and wrote out a paragraph for some part near the end, some guy who doesn't speak English too well told me to look it over or else he won't put my contribution for that part.
I looked through it and found out that I had typed the same word twice and forgot an s for a plural, and well... That was it.
I mean his parts were in broken English with some more complex words thrown in that sounded really off-putting. It just kinda peeved me off he was criticising my parts and said he would put me down as non-contributing for two minor errors, given his writing.

>>20136248
group projects in education should be illegal

>>20136204
>これも創ったんやろか？
No, those are someone else's work. I've made a few of OP images in the past, but never put as much work into them as that. Usually I just slap some text on an image I like and call it a day.

The current OP image is actually one of my more "high effort" works in that I had to erase parts of the background and dodge the highlights since the original image looked like shit and had other text on it.

>>20136256

>>20136251
I mean I'll admit some of the stuff I write is kinda off, but some of his parts are just confusing. I only sort of get them because of my exposure to broken English.
>I'm write this part
>please proof reading this and unfinished writing
>you awaken?

Learning Japanese has made me realize that I probably have some kind of learning disability.

>>20136303
everyone has a learning disability it's called hating learning things in stupid ways

>>20136311
No I mean like it is taking me much longer than normal to catch on to new concepts. If I wasn't a NEET I would not have made it anywhere. I'm talking at least 5 hours of study a day, which is probably only 1 or 2 hours of material.

no pain no gain.

https://youtu.be/fUYy0FXli14?t=753

yoshi got up 20 minutes ago and already finished my reps

i'd do a karaoke with nuke chan

>>20136118
Asked a native beside me just now, he made a grudge sound then said it's not a real character. Then he said >>20136129
's pic is kimochi warui but I must disagree, Luna is waifu.

>>20136385
sounds like your native neighbor ain't enough of an オタク

I don't think I ever talked to a Japanese person ever

>>20136354
>starts anki at the 19 minute mark
>still at it by the 2 hour mark
How can people do this?

>>20136385
Accuse him of being a lolicon and say the only reason he doesn't like her is because she doesn't have a flat chest.

>>20136425
I'm like that. My memory is basically nonexistant and if I don't put in at least an hours anki study the cards just keep stacking up.

>>20136434
post a screenshot or your card from inside the card format editor

>>20136434
Are you actually listening and reading though? If you don't have some sort of meaningful context to associate with the words you're learning in Anki, it's much harder to remember them since they don't really mean anything to you and you can't even truly learn them in that situation. Ideally, you should be able to remember exactly where each word in your deck came from (say your new card limit is 20, it might help to only add 20 new cards to your deck each day instead of piling up a massive backlog of hundreds - if a word is important, you will get a chance to mine it again in the future).

おまえら

たばこやめろ

>>20135975
>the green region
Why? And is it more like the "standard" じ, the ず or completely different from both?

>>20136526
https://ja.wikipedia.org/wiki/ズーズー弁

>>20136425
He's a machine. A fat, slow moving machine.

https://youtu.be/bmKOW46LaGo

what does ほげね mean here
i couldn't find it anywhere

>>20136578
You're probably better off asking in >>>/int/96606460

It's evening going on night time in Japan right now so there should be some natives in there.

>>20136526
Here's an actually clear example:
https://youtu.be/cONPzhm0Aco?t=39
It's more like a "zu" sound, but kind of a mix of both.

>>20136578
>>20136591
You'll have to ask in Japanese though since most of the actual natives (not expats and proxies) there don't seem to speak any English.

>>20136578
https://dictionary.goo.ne.jp/leaf/dialect/3482/m0u/%E3%81%BB%E3%81%92/

Might be this

>>20136578
it means like そうなんだ.

If you don't sing at least 2 hours a day, you can't learn Japanese.

https://youtu.be/fUYy0FXli14?t=753

thanks everybody
>>20136608
yeah this seems right based on the character so far

>>20136526
>>>/wsg/2434061

>>20136641
ああ　こう　そう　どう turn into あげ　こげ　そげ　どげ in Chugoku and Kyushu regions.
ほげ is corrupted form of そげ.
in this context , it means "i see."

>>20136753
How come this sort of thing is so common in other languages but so rare in English? You do in very rural areas of England find people who speak something very different from the standard language, like this guy:
https://youtu.be/ScELaXMCVis

But it's very rare. I'm actually from the same county this guy is from, and while my dialect shares some features of his (e.g. dropping "the" in favour of a simple glottal stop), the way he pronounces certain works like "book" and the Old Norse words in his vocabulary are very alien to me and I've never encountered them in real life.

>>20136910
are you somehow implying that there aren't two major and extremely different accent groups in English

>>20136936
It's nothing compared to what you get in Japanese though. In some countries like Italy, people at one end of the country literally can't understand people at the other. I could maybe see some Americans having a small amount of difficulty with certain British accents, but nobody from the UK should have any trouble whatsoever understanding an American (or Canadian, Australian or New Zealander).

>>20136965
you only feel that way because Japanese is still exotic to you
Japanese people feel the same way about English dialects with "da" or "ovnah"

>>20136990
https://youtu.be/O2ML955u8Y0

>"ovnah"
???

>>20136965
USA, Canada, Australia and New Zealand are all british colonies and only a few 100 years old. UK, Japan and Italy are not colonies and are way older (not necessarily in terms of the nations themselves, but in terms of the peoples living there)

At least that would be my uneducated guess.

>sentence has multiple がs

What do you guys think about adding audio to sentence cards?
Is it worth the extra time spent making them?
So far I've been using text only cards.

Kagoshima dialect is incomprehensible, even if you were a native japanese speaker.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nwCzIEU3MaY

>>20137044
That's going to take a lot of time unless you're using sub2srs. The 300 dojg sentences are barely worth it and I don't know why anyone would do sentences beyond that.

>>20137025
>UK, Japan and Italy are not colonies and are way older (not necessarily in terms of the nations themselves, but in terms of the peoples living there)
But there's a clear difference here. In Japan and Italy, geography has a big impact on the way people speak, whereas in the UK, sure we have different dialects, but none of them really stray very far from standard English. It's worth keeping in mind that we have Scots, Welsh and Irish in the UK who originally spoke languages from a completely different language family from English (Celtic as opposed to Germanic), yet the English varieties spoken by these groups today don't really have any significant differences from standard English besides a handful of unique words (though in the case of Scots, it's not uncommon for these words, e.g. "bairn", to also be present in Northern English dialects).

>>20137045
I find this easier to follow than >>20136552

In the Kagoshima-ben clip, I can pick out words that I know quite easily (though it's still nonsense to me), whereas in the Aomori-ben video I literally can't understand anything. They may as well be speaking Greek.

>>20137071
You are retarded. Subs2srs is a horrible program.

>>20137044
It takes less than 20 seconds per card to grab both audio and an image if you know how. For me it helps tremendously.

>>20137044
>sentence cards
Do you really want to spend 2 hours on Anki every day?

>>20137143
It's not like I was recommending it
>>20137143
You are retarded.

>>20137143
>It takes less than 20 seconds per card to grab both audio and an image if you know how.
How?

>>20135880
That's nice but manga isn't reading.

>>20137414

>>20137508
>yomichan
I'd much rather use RikaiRebuilt for making Anki cards. The way Yomichan formats them is horrible.

>>20137532
Yomichan has Handlebars.js which to my knowledge lets you edit how Yomichan makes your card as much as you want. I've never personally had an issue with it after removing the html stuff that is there by default but ultimately it does not matter.

>>20137556
That requires knowing whatever programming language is used to write that, and in the end I would only want to make it make cards the way that Rikaisama used to so there's no reason for me to not just use RikaiRebuilt instead.

I notice that recently i recognize quite a bit of the n5/n4 kanji. The only thing that's bothering me is that though i might remember some of the kun readings for it, i dont remember the onyomi. Should i just keep going, recognize how the kanjis look without bothering trying to remember their pronounciation for both on and kun yomi? Or should i take extra time and focus on their pronounciation for now?

>>20138172
You shouldn't study kanji in isolation to begin with.

>>20135991
1000 to review, what's with that? No way you finish that

>>20138172
There's literally no point in memorizing readings. Let's say you memorize that 人 is nin and jin, additionally you know 大 is dai and tai. Now there is still no way to know if 大人 is daijin,dainin,taijin, or tainin. (hints it's actually none of those because readings are useless)

>>20137508
Thanks a lot!

>>20138310
Then how do you read kanji and compound words out loud if you dont know which reading to say

>>20138310
This is one of the most retarded posts I've ever seen in these threads.

>>20138310
Japanese people use kunyomi and onyomi readings all the time. They have to memorize it through practice.

>>20138363
You learn the word.

>>20138379
Thank god someone agrees with me, that guy doesn't belong here if he actually believes readings are useless

My fucking Anki just got fucked up.
What the hell.
Anyone else have any problems with syncing?

>>20138391
>>20138379
Explain how I'm wrong.

>>20137508
Skip all this work and just generate decks for all the shows you have downloaded. Then if you find a sentence you like while watching you can search for the sentence in the deck and move it to your mining deck.

>>20138379
>>20138391
You dipshits are trolling right?

>>20138479
Yes

>>20138475
>all this work
once you've set it up you don't really need to do anything.

>go to Matt's patreon
>"I got fluent after 3 years and 10k Anki cards"

Wtf, that's only 10 cards a day. I'm doing 30 new cards a day, am I retarded?

>>20138384
Use them for what? Like I said, there's literally no way to guess which reading is correct just by knowing all the possible readings

>>20138479
No. I'm just mad that what he was saying absolutely didn't make sense from a learning perspective. It is inexcusable for someone to not do the readings.

>>20138513
Oh so you're genuinely retarded and don't understand what he's saying. Carry on then.

>>20138503
he immersed a lot more than you do

>>20138516
You are the retard here.

>generally able to understand 70-80% of whats going on when watching raws+ jp subs
>watch pic related with jp subs
>get absolutely ass blasted not picking up even 10%
what the fuck

>>20138516
>>20138526
You are both retarded to argue about readings like this.

>jp subs
lol

>>20138531
Depends on whether anime is shonen or some psychological shit that uses more vocab. Every anime genre has a different level. Try gintama, I'm sure that one has a wide variety of words when they talk about random shit

gintama is actually surprisingly simple

>>20138436
Take this as a great opportunity to start learning japanese.

How good for you is playing visual novels with both languages?

>>20138575
it's fine

>>20138575
Good if you're trying to learn English

>>20138503
How many cards per day you do doesn't matter, what matters is the amount of hours you spend immersing.

>>20138549
imagine all the shit flying over your head.

>>20138575
All vns with dual language are shit so not good.

>>20138575
>>20138581
>>20138583
>>20138592
It's better for learning Japanese since you are more likely to spend more time on english visual novels.
If your jap vn session is as long as english one then read jap only, if not go for duo.

Watch English dubbed anime to increase your immersion time

>>20138613
I would 1000% rather watch raw than dubbed. I understand more from it anyway.

>>20138575
is the game like this by default or did you do some gimmicks?

>>20138613
Another retard here. Honestly djt threads are just cringe half of the time.

>>20138622
prolly default, duuno, didn't buy it
I don't read vns in english since I started learning japanese

>>20135830
Is this real?

If so this is the first non offensively bad thing matt has suggested.

>>20138662
of course not tard

>>20138662
That's an old image from djt, newfag

>>20138680
new fag in terms of djt? I have been here for almost a year just only come like once or twice a month. Also are you bragging about spending a massive amount of time here?

In terms of japanese I am better then pretty much everyone here though.

>>20137508
>A screenshot
Are you kidding? How am I supposed to follow the links?

>>20138713
It is for the best as anki would just waste your time.

>>20138720
I know. Just wanted to try out to see what it's like.

>>20138613

What anime are you guys watching now. What anime would you guys most reccomend in terms of quality and ease.

I would recommend koe no katachi the most.

Just looking for more anime to watch currently at 300 hours of raw.

>>20138758
Have you tried the requests board?

>>20138758
It is hard for me to recommend anything, because I tend to enjoy more difficult series even though I don't understand them. Hibike Euphonium and Boku dake ga Inai Machi are probably a good mix of quality and ease.

Currently watching Shiki. Don't understand much, but it is enjoyable. There is a lot of medical vocabulary that goes over my head. Started yesterday and I'm on episode 15 already. Might try watching Another after I'm done with this.

>>20138805
Retard.

tfw still using rikaisama,
there is still a supported version that you can use it with.

>>20138475
You are stupid and missed the point.
1. This also works on visual novels
2. You have complete control over how many lines one card goes
3. Not always are subtitles perfectly aligned so the automatic recording stats before the line is being spoken and ends after it was over
4. These cards are generated using Yomichan/Rikai meaning they fall in line with the styling of the rest of your deck (assuming you are doing a word deck) and aren't just useless one sentence cards with nothing but a sentence on the front (cards that benefit absolutely no one and require editing)
5. If you only need to mine 1 thing from a show you need to spend 15 seconds to mine one thing and not have thousands of useless cards that you need to delete for that one card you could have made in seconds
6. The screenshots taken automatically are not always optimal depictions of the context (mined object is a physical thing, automatic screenshot doesn't capture the frame the thing is being shown in, etc)
7. Like the other anon said, you need to set it up once and it will never stop working

>>20138713
Type them out, are you retarded? It's just demonstrations of the card making process. You should be able to figure it out.

>>20139022
The original post was about sentence cards, not vocab cards, which is the most important point. You can increase padding which eliminates stop/start issues with audio. It's not the setup that's the problem. It's the annoying "15 second" process you describe that you have to go through every time. Don't try to use subs2srs with VNs.

fucking jamal bailed on us and went out partying

Do you guys prefer to buy the original manga in a physical copy and then read it? Or do you download raw scans with less quality for free? I have this strong urge to buy the japanese volumes and learn with them.

>>20139060
Then buy them holy shit why do you need our approval?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ojX8P8JAj60

>>20139054
Yea I guess the original post was for sentence cards.
Sentence cards are retarded though, not to mention that over half the arguments still apply on your decrepit card making process.

>>20139060
personally with how often i need to look shit up, physical media slows the process down too much for me, but i expect to try it again sometime. just buy a volume or two and try it, but if you're a beginner i expect you to feel the same.

>>20139085
I thought you were kinda trolling with your other points so I didn't address them. For example
>the item might be out of frame
>extra lines
Not really an issue. In the rare case it is an issue you can swap out the image if it's that bothersome. You can delete part of the sentence you don't want. But again, this will rarely be an issue.
>Thousands of useless cards.
And thousands of useful ones. And so long as you have 1GB of free space your storage will be more than fine.
Styling isn't an issue since it's for a sentence deck and you can style cards in any way you prefer.

>>20139081
They didnt even manage to make a second episode for their podcast. This new idea of theirs will never see the light of day.

I like sentence cards. It seems so much better to have a card like "I set the glass down." or "I set the oven to 400F." rather than "set" on one side and every possible definition of "set" on the other completely out of context of how it's actually used

hot new ideas from yoga & matt take notes boys
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ojX8P8JAj60

I'd listen to japanews24 till the end of time but its only a loop of today's news what else do you guys listen to

>>20139122
I don't know how much you are grabbing in an episode, it rarely goes above 3 words for me. Not thousands of useful cards, 99% of trash shitting up your space unless you are a complete beginner that needs to grab everything. Even if you lengthen the lines I doubt the audio gets capture very well and you have no way of going back and adding lines of audio because the audio is automatically generated.
Sentence cards are still retarded. You could probably still save work by having the +1 object translation generated by Rikai/Yomi and just putting the sentence on the front in styling, so your card making process still seems very stupid to me.

>>20139132
False equivalent.

>>20139148
yoga matt language learning process 24/7 study

>>20139157
>it rarely goes above 3 words for me
You can filter shit you don't want, but that's not a problem either. It's not like you have to go through every card.
>I doubt the audio gets capture very well
Padding pretty much guarantees it. I've never seen an instance where the audio I expected wasn't captured.
>Sentence cards are still retarded.
Only decent argument I've heard against them is that they take more time.

>>20139157
>False equivalent

yo braimiac a logical argument has to be put forward for a logical fallacy to occur

>>20139081
what the hell is going on with his camera?

>>20139196
>Only decent argument I've heard against them is that they take more time.
what about that the supposed benefits may be hugely overstated? also, taking more time is not just about the time taken from reading/listening, it's also about the potential for decreased retention and burn-out

>>20139223
>it's also about the potential for decreased retention and burn-out
If for some reason you were a dumbass and you kept doing new cards despite your reps increasing to a number you can't stand, then the solution is to stop doing them?

>"Sentence cards suck!"

>>20139186
top kek

>>20139243
i keep anki under 30 minutes a day, that seems like a very small number of sentence cards. the only reason i do anki personally is to be able to read more words written in kanji, leaving all actual language learning to my reading and listening time, so a decrease of new cards per day seems counterproductive to that goal

>>20139264
Then don't do sentence cards.

兵隊さんは勇敢で
いつもは君のそばにいる

So I'm planning on teaching in Japan next year when I graduate, I've already got an interview set up with ACT and I'm not a NEET, however I'm not planning on staying in Japan my whole life and am mostly just going for the experience, maybe for a year or two
Should I get the fuck out now? Am I going to be fine? Anyone got any advice? I was reading an old thread on /jp/ about it and from what I saw it's generally an alright position, there might be some shit you'll have to deal with, might be even worse depending on how you handle it, but otherwise it's ok. Is that true?
Just looking for general advice on this while I can still get out of it if need be. Just in case it helps, getting a job in America is no big deal, I can get a job working for the county very easily

>>20139475
this is a thread for learning nihongo and nothing else

go ask reddit

I want to make a thread where we read mango together and translate it while reading

>>20139475
That's a mighty big paragraph you wrote there yet I have no idea what you're trying to ask about.

>>20139515
We can be friends but we can't read manga or translate anything...

>>20139516
>>20139490
in that case fuck it, I'll just delete that post and this then wait for the next ACT/JET thread

>>20139515
>and translate it
no

>>20139515
only if it's ホモ漫画

>>20139060
Manga isn't reading.

>>20139515
Neither is "mango."

>>20139622
Manga is reading.

>>20139525
What? Why not? I'll even do all the work for you, you can just sit back and read the furigana.
>>20139528
Isnt learning japanese the whole purpose of this thread?

If we have a group translating session, im sure you guys will be more motivated and find this activity fun. Im kind of lonely, reading a mango all by myself. Let's do it together!

>>20139634
prove your worth first, lets see a scanlation

>>20139650
I started doing it recently so i haven't made one yet.

It's like you guys don't have any drive to learn anything at all. What's wrong with you?

why do people always freak out if not every single last second of someone's day isn't spent immersing?

Okay bye guys, this thread is utter /trash/ and anyone who lurks here can btfo from japan bc theyre never going to understand a shit from it

I haven't been able to keep up mining 10 words a day so eventually I'll be running out or to 5 cards a day while not knowing words in fields I haven't explored yet

mining was a mistake.

>>20139691
its ok i dont mean a whole manga just like one page

heres a tasteful one

>>20139634
translating requires some understanding of japanese but is more focused on writing ability in english, it does not provide much more language practice than the initial reading does
if you're more focused on correcting each other, i'm skeptical of the value in that

>>20139750
How? I feel like I could mine 10 words a day in english if I tried.
I agree that it's a mistake though, it's a placebo and not an actual boost to your langauge skill. All it does is teach you a dictionary definition, and looking up words when you don't remember them is not a hassle once you can't even find 20 new ones per day.

>>20139759
>sakurako boob don't fit
>you start something mate
>stand down, you know i have a complex over my boob

>>20139634
I don't like manga, I find just reading and anime enough. Plus translating is a horribly inefficient way of learning japanese. It wastes time thinking in english when you should be moving on to more compelling content. Plus it supports retard eops.

>>20139818
pretty good, i have an entry level position for you in my scanlation team

Please clean up your leaking trash

>>20139878
does it really matter if trash leaks from one garbage bin to the other

anyway needless to say that's not the real slim shady, in fact I'm getting a little bit worried about mr. jamal

>>20139888
Who is Jamal

>>20139929
resident 座敷童子 who's been decorating these threads with kawasaki rap and punctuation-free shitposts since the dawn of time and somewhat recently adopted a tripcode

known for being 69 years old and gay

maybe he got banned for what i can only assume is the hundredth or so time

>>20139878
is jamal really from Iceland?

>>20139964
Obviously not.

>>20139964
his trip is public

>>20139956
you're doing a great job at replacing him.

Test your listening/pronunciation skills:
https://i.4cdn.org/wsg/1540593369883.webm

Nice, someone got Jamal's trip banned

>>20140171
Is Matsuko a tranny or a drag queen

>>20140207
drag

>dont want to watch anime
>dont want to watch tv shows
>just want to watch some documentaries
>there are no fucking documentaries to watch

REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
help me, it's hard to learn not being a weeb, I initally got into it because of TV show but now I'm kinda bored of it

>>20140306
美と若さの新常識 is one I like to watch.

>>20140336
I mean it's not an issue with what titles to watch, it's where to get them from
TV shows and anime are easy to get

>>20140173
yeah public trips tend to get banned

I am thinking about making a youtube channel where I say that I am learning from day 1 and then after a couple months to actually demonstrate my actual ability so that people will think I learned japanese incredibly fast. Then say some horribly stupid method on how I learned it.

>と思います

>>20140437
need to invest in more than one video, slow progress over 3-12 months

any free streaming website like FujiTV before it got wrecked?

Why is this thread so dead?

This is the best the thread has been in months. Please stop questioning it.

>>20140511
Anons are too busy immersing

>>20137508
Why does video.fluentcards.com not support any MKV I throw into it?

>decide to browse 2ch for the first time
>all the boards are spread thinly among sub-boards and many are basically dead
>google around
>all Japanese message boards apparently suck even for natives

I was amused to find out there is a 懐かしエロ board, however.

>>20140528
MKV is not a web video format supported by browsers due to its audio encoding not being supported, in Chrome sometimes the video will play however the audio never does because no browser supports it.

>>20140707
mkv doesn't have "an audio encoding" and in fact webm is a subset of mkv with restricted codec and packing options

>>20140707
Well that's making me shake, and the fact you didn't quote my post is making me shake even harder.

>decide to look for some hub of your favourite idol group in Japanese
>turns out the sites are all dead and NONE have more content than the Western ones about the same group

the Japanese part of the Internet is a gift that keeps on giving

>>20140437
Duo lingo -> Genki -> making fansubs with help from Google translate -> meditation -> fluency

>>20140759
eops don't realize how good they've got it

>>20140766
i'm down for the fansub approach, 6 months of fansubbing to fluency

>>>/wsg/2435274

how good is this translation /djt/?

How many months until と as a "quotation" marker stops confusing me?

>>20140437
tell people to learn all the kanji with their chinese readings instead of their japanese ones and make production sentence cards from futaba posts

>>20140859
It's been 3 months already for the record.

>>20140859
it'll come faster if you stop thinking about what the particle is doing and just keep encountering new sentences where it is used and you are able to guess confidently what is intended

using Anki or not? if you see certain word often enough you should learn it anyway, so why use it?

>>20140901
When you don't see it often enough but need/want to learn it anyway.

I only get through like 100 sentences at most per day so anki helps a lot with exposing me to structures I don't encounter enough.

>>20140901
Efficiency. I have to immerse for hours to see a certain word VS just having it in Anki

Wish I had money so I can buy 可愛ければ変態でも好きになってくれますか?, I can't find the novels anywhere online

i post this exact phrase a lot but "revisiting old material and understanding it much better than you did on your last attempt" is by far the best feel in learning this language. at the start of this year i could barely make out any given sentence of re: zero but now i can read it pretty comfortably with the help of a dictionary.

What do you guys have you anki intervals set to?

Translate this tweet, is it even japanese?
https://twitter.com/eitaso/status/1055995902920249344

>>20140977
but what's the point of knowing that word if it doesn't come often enough?

>>20141084
If it comes often enough that you see it but not often enough for you to learn it.

>>20141081
Yes, it is "Japanese", but shit tier Twitter Japanese.

It's like reading English Tweets from people who use words like "lit" with 20 emoticons.

>Naruto at the DJT
>the scan is so shit you can't read furigana

c-can someone pls fix it

>>20140437
In your final video you should say "Hi I'm X and after 12 months of studying Japanese I've acquired a larger passive vocabulary than the average 3 year old."

>>20137508
Anyone got a source on who made/wrote this? This guy's speaking my language.

>>20140872
How much are you reading and listening to per day? There's no way that should still be giving you trouble after 3 months.

>>20141144
go back to giving good advice on reddit and educating matt vlad.

>>20141155
Hours every day with only yesterday being an exception in that entire 3 months.

I'm on level 20 of WaniKani now and I'm starting to think I could get better mileage out of Kanji Garden which is free (for now.) Has anyone here used either and can pitch in?

>>20141144
Sorry, I don't help tripfags.

>>20141114
it's good for you
t. finished learning the hiragana and katakana by reading scans with 5px tall furigana

anyone know where i can find a post from an anon where he details how to get rid of a bunch of extra fluff/bullshit in yomichan's card formatting?

>>20141173
have you tried compelling content

>>20141208
They're not mutually exclusive.

>>20141210
of course not, but what a big distraction

>>20141212
30 minutes a day is not a big distraction.

>>20141207
https://itazuraneko.neocities.org/learn/anki.html#import

>>20141207
There are some templates on itazuraneko, if that's what you're talking about:
https://itazuraneko.neocities.org/learn/anki.html#import

>>20141207
https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/rikairebuilt/

>>20141173
>Kanji Garden

I looked this shit up and it's a multiple choice isolated kanji reading app. If you think this shit is good there is nothing anyone can do to help you.

蔓を渡る道順を覚えれば
頂上まで行けるきに
What's with the きに at the end?

>>20141278
I don't rely on the multiple-choice, if I don't remember the meaning I tell it I forgot the meaning. You can type in the readings, only the meaning has a multiple-choice for whatever reason but you can ignore it.

RTK is isolated kanji and doesn't even have readings so if you wanna flame anything it should be RTK which is worshipped on these threads.

RTK is shat on in these threads but you're right that people still think it's better than the disgusting piece of shit that is WK or its direct competitors.

>>20141310
>RTK is isolated kanji and doesn't even have readings
That's a good thing because you should learn them in words only.

Steve dropping truth bombs. Matt take note.

https://youtu.be/AzUf3mMyt7k?t=313

>>20141323
When people learn to write kanji do you tell them they should be learning how to write words instead? idk where this retarded logic came from.
Knowing a kanji and its readings makes it easier for me to remember vocabulary, even retroactively if I learn a kanji for a word I already know it makes me remember it even better.

>>20141315
wk is actually better than rtk as long as you pirate it

you still really shouldn't use either, rtk is worthless because it only makes sense if you don't know japanese and that's exactly the time when practicing writing makes no sense

>>20141333
>When people learn to write kanji do you tell them they should be learning how to write words instead?
Yes. That is literally how I'm learning to write them.

>>20141340
it's just rtk with even more bullshit added, so it's strictly worse. neither should be done.

>>20141333
You can do whatever makes you tingly, it'll all work out so long as you read and listen. I regret participating in retarded DJT method autism and will now watch anime for two hours as penance.

>>20141333
>When people learn to write kanji do you tell them they should be learning how to write words instead?
Yes. You need to be learning how to write words when you write kanji. There's no use in writing a kanji if you're not going to write a word with it.
This is how natives learn them too, they get the kanji formally introduced along with kunyomi and onyomi words they already know. It's fine to do kanji study, but it needs to not be isolated. You should have something like KKLC where you are introduced to words at the same time. Make sure you are getting other input as well so you'll be exposed to these words in context.

Ideally if you're going to learn how to write it would help to already know Japanese, but if you're itching to get started then you should at least learn both at the same time and not just writing.

>>20141364
WaniKani teaches you at least two words for each kanji, one with Kun'yomi and one with On'yomi readings.

you're a dumbass if you're trying to learn to write while learning to reading. end of story.

>>20141261
yomichan for comparison

note the loss of information about the word (v1,vi,uk)

>>20141345
it's not rtk at all dude the method and order are completely different

>>20135880
Anyone doing RTK and around the 600 kanji mark? I'd like to meet someone that will upload screenshots of their completed reps every day with me on a discord server of our own. That way we can encourage each other to keep going.

>>20141261
>>20141381
and nazeka, because why not

are there any other rikai extensions with anki support or am i right in thinking that this is this all of them?

こんな所に入口が！
更に隠し扉じゃきに
絶対にわからん
What does the じゃきに mean? I get that it's an accent thing, but I don't get what a sentence ending きに is supposed to add and what it's derived from.

>>20139785

I don't really read much "deep" stuff. I only really like slice of life cute manga. 90% of my mining comes from anime girl artists on twitter.

>>20141416
is nazeka the only one that includes the tags AND keeps different senses separated?

>>20141416
>Yomichan
Pros:
- best control over which word + reading you want to mine
- easy to set up and use
- supports audio
Cons:
- worst card formatting
- all info about word lost with rikai-like template

>RikaiRebuilt
Pros:
- most faithful to rikaisama
- easy to set up and use
- supports audio
- supports pitch accent (for some words)
Cons:
- card formatting not as good a nazeka
- can only mine first word or reading in pop-up

>Nazeka
Pros:
- best card formatting (numbered definitions; doesn't just group all tags applying to a word at the beginning of the definition and instead applies specific tags only to their relevant sub-definitions)
- can choose which word from the pop-up you want to mine via the mining ui
Cons:
- if a word has multiple readings for a particular spelling, nazeka will mine them all instead of just the one that you want
- least intuitive to use
- no control over which fields get filled
- no audio support

>>20141292
>>20141581
Looks like it's 土佐弁, and indicates reason like だから or ので
https://detail.chiebukuro.yahoo.co.jp/qa/question_detail/q1371860683

>>20141657
>doesn't just group all tags applying to a word at the beginning of the definition and instead applies specific tags only to their relevant sub-definitions
note: if a numbered sense has the same tags as the previous sense, it doesn't repeat the tags, it only includes the tags when that sense has different tags from the previous one

下《した》
(n) (1) below; down; under; younger (e.g. daughter); (2) bottom; (3) beneath; underneath; (4) (as 下から, 下より, etc.) just after; right after; (n, adj-no) (5) inferiority; one's inferior (i.e. one's junior); (n) (6) trade-in; (n-pref) (7) preliminary; preparatory;

>>20141660
>にゃあ
TIL catgirls are from tosa

>>20141685
It sounds silly as shit
not tosaben but:
https://youtu.be/cONPzhm0Aco?t=113

>>20141595
Yomichan's ugly default template does too, if you can stomach it.

>>20141712
wow that's horrible

i guess you might be able to salvage it with some in-template javascript if anki allows it

>>20141707
かわいくにゃいにゃあ

>>20141660
Thank you so much. 万謝いたす
I was beginning to think it was something the author made up, I couldn't find anything.
How did you find it? I find myself struggling a lot with accents and often not finding much about what I'm struggling with.

don't think, feel

>>20141772
googled きに 方言

ほうげんあんきしてたら

いのちがいくつあってもたりないよー

>>20141793
永遠に死なない者なら？

why does core6k show some words as just hiragana when they have a kanji? just went to mine 埃 before realizing i'm supposed to know it already.

>>20141783
Oh. I googled じゃきに 方言 and ended up with not that.

永遠に死ななくても方言は死んだり生まれたり、だから時間こそ邪魔になる
人間界も死んでは宇宙人の方言も目的に為れ

please stop permanently crippling my japanese

>>20141813
そのネタもう

３かい

やった

障害を持つ者に為れ

Is it just me or all the megalinks in the cornucopia broken on the new guide?

>>20141871
you have to add the mega.nz domain name to them

>>20141900
or this yeah

>>20141909
meant to quote >>20141888 i'm not a smart guy

>>20141917
i mean you can always just reinstall anki and the deck and suspend any words you already know well so you don't have to go through them again

>>20141917
Losing your progress on VN Core is nothing to worry about. Everything there is so common that it's basically impossible not to learn if you're reading and listening even semi-regularly.

Just drop it and either quit Anki or take up mining from here on out.

>>20142059
あたしも、手に入れたら俺様に分け合ってね

https://youtu.be/6pmIIYXJ3gM?t=1083

Daily karaoke with Nuke-chan

In this quote from Howl's Moving Castle: "ちょっと太いかしだね", what does the "かしだ" mean? I also hear sentences ending in かしだ a lot, unless I'm completely mishearing it.

Anyone have Khafka on the Shore in azw? Japanese of course.

>>20142277
Oh fuck, that would explain a lot.

So "ちょっと太いかしらね", is "I wonder if this is too thick". Makes sense now, thanks.

>>20142280
Does it even have an ebook version? I can't find anything save for a couple pdfs on baidu but baidu-dl stopped working. Probably photocopies of the paper book.

>>20142758
There' a guide up on the neocities pages explaining step by step exactly what to do.

>>20142768
I've done exactly that, multiple times, I just can't get it to work

>>20142772
Describe your problem.

>>20142788
>just gives me an error or nothing at all
Yomichan gives you an error or Anki does?

Make sure you're using the latest 2.0 or 2.1 version of Anki, and that you have the latest version of the AnkiConnect add-on just to make sure it's not some bug in one of those causing the problem.

>>20142794
Updating ankiconnect fixed it, time to fucking kill myself

>>20142162
あんこたべる？

>>20143051
ああんにしてくれる？

What is the most authentic way of saying "This isn't even my final form!" in Japanese?

>>20143299
このままはもう俺の最後の形じゃねえぞ！

>>20143299
きさまのはらわたをくいつくしてくれるわ

>>20143318
ありがとう先生
>>20143360
膣内社製の大好きよ。

>>20143335
分かりませんwwwww

We spent years learning this "skill" and now we can't even get a job with it What were we thinking?

>>20143600
No, you spent years "learning" the skill, which is why you can't get a job.

I spent years how to rocket jump in TF2 *dab*

I want to try translating something but I'm nowhere near fluent to read everything without help.
I googled a little and found https://github.com/davidfstr/Uhuru which looks decent but it needs Python and stuff.
Does anyone know of a tool that you paste Japanese text into, you get a rough machine translation, more accurate kanji translations on demand, and maybe a text box to write your translation into?

>>20143758
First off wow. Second off how does Matt not yet realize that 4chan recommends immersion above all else?

Instead he met some cock sucking core drone representative.

>>20143863
?

>>20143758
What are the right anki settings?

>>20143892

https://vladsperspective.wordpress.com/2017/03/14/optimize-your-anki-youre-overtesting-yourself-on-too-few-cards-make-huge-gains/

>>20143878
>how does Matt not yet realize that 4chan recommends immersion above all else?
This thread is pretty mixed on that issue though.

>>20143758
Funny how he uses somebody who would get laughed at and be treated like a shitty troll as a representative of 4chan. It's probably a made up story anyway.

>>20143932
What? No it's not. Everyone stresses immersion, though some recommend mining (which matt does too).

>>20143962
Barely. And I never see them recommend Core6k. It's always vncore or Core2k, and even then people tell them to abandon them after the first 1k words and just read more or mine. Nothing like the 10k guy Matt spoke with.

how many words should i do in a premade deck before abandoning it?

>>20143907
Seriously, start using these settings.
Also check out this video for additional info on settings you can tinker with.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kOj2xLTX_sY

>>20143998
10000

why mine instead of just getting words by frequency out of the way? is it because you're more likely to have an affinity for certain words that won't necessarily be in frequency order? So you should just anki words that you "like" and notice because they'll be easier?

>>20143907
So essentially
Rep less, learn more
Makes perfect sense

vlad is a beast. shame he doesn't post here more.

or does he?

>>20144017
And here we have the loser recommending to abandon the core150k deck not even a tenth of the way in

>>20140901
I used Anki. It was the reason I gave up multiple times on learning Japanese, I stopped using it and now I am regularly reading for multiple hours a day.
I can see its benefits tho, in my opinion start doing Anki. If you ever feel like Anki is holding you back or you get burned out due to Anki, stop doing Anki and just keep reading.
Also, dont be like me and only read, try to get some listenting practice via anime or podcasts in as well.

>>20143998
Not more than 1000. Premade decks are shit

>>20141582
Manga isn't reading anyway.

lets read together!

https://djt.netlify.com/b/[%E6%9D%91%E4%B8%8A%E6%98%A5%E6%A8%B9]%20%E3%82%84%E3%81%8C%E3%81%A6%E5%93%80%E3%81%97%E3%81%8D%E5%A4%96%E5%9B%BD%E8%AA%9E/[%E6%9D%91%E4%B8%8A%E6%98%A5%E6%A8%B9]%20%E3%82%84%E3%81%8C%E3%81%A6%E5%93%80%E3%81%97%E3%81%8D%E5%A4%96%E5%9B%BD%E8%AA%9E/index.html

here's an easy novel for us all to enjoy. Murakami novels are entry level as fug and comfy to read.

>>20143758
>he went through core10k at 100 cards a day
>he was repping from 7 hours a day
>he had also done a million textbooks and stuff
Matt:
- is outright lying or
- got trolled pretty badly or
- found the dumbest nigger to ever come crawling out of this shithole
Odds are he's simply lying to be honest, wouldn't be a first.
Anyways,
>the advice you find [...] is so impractical.
Because recommending people to do RTK before any real studying is practical somehow?

>>20144360
This. It's like Matt forgot (definitely NOT on purpose by the way!) about all his grandiose talks about input vs output

Why do you keep bringing him up you fucking moron? Fuck off. The thread has been beautiful without him shitting it up.

>>20144656
Why not?

Reminder to always masturbate after your reps

>>20144744
you don't have to remind me.

>>20144767
Anime is the secret sauce better get to it

>>20144774
FUCK YOU!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

>>20144767
I've been immersing for awhile and apparently I don't yet understand understand simple things that I should have by now. Kinda pisses me off because I haven't even enjoyed it.

>>20144767
I can't even understand lyrics in English most of the time.

we need more photoshops of e-celebs

>>20145305
I got you, senpai.

What's an acceptable reading speed for an average VN in chars/min for someone who has read for about 400 hours?

>>20145322
I have read for about 543 hours and aim for 28 characters per minute.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=79U1Kfc_DxY

>>20145322
300 lines per hour at a minimum, dunno about characters.

Just gonna leave free advice here. Some perma-intermediate tards will tell you to ditch Anki ASAP, maybe after you're done with 2K, maybe 2K+6K, maybe 10K. Don't listen to them, keep mining. Reading and looking up words constantly is not a substitute for proper practice, ESPECIALLY as the vocabulary becomes more uncommon and specialized.

>>20145394
This has already been my experience a mere 1k words in. Yea I come across these common words often but not often enough that I actually remember them unless I use anki. Anki is just a straight up upgrade for your memory no matter the situation. It's always a question of if you can tolerate it enough to keep doing it.

>>20145410
お前如きに信じられるかどうかは別にどうでもいいから勝手にすればいいわ

>>20145409
It is, but contracted.. 登らせられる -> 登らされる

>>20145433
fucking graded readers, I didnt expect them to do that, especially since it was the first instance of them using that conjugation
thanks

>>20145439
immersion since day 1
decks only after you're done with Tae Kim

>Found the kanji de manga books I bought when I was 12 on strorage.
Can amyone challenge the length of my dekinai status.

>>20145566
You didn't tell us your age, so how would we know?

I started over 14 years ago and I'm still dekinai.

>>20145608
I only learn Japanese so I can shitpost in /djt/.

>>20145551
Just skimmed through it and he does sound full of himself even when speaking with Japanese people. Sounds natural enough, in that he falls back to vague phrases to mask his inadequate active vocab. For 6 years of study including stays in Japan it's nothing worth the attitude he displays, that's for sure.

>>20145624
10000 hours of English subbed anime is how you start. Don't need any base for that and it even gives you one!

>>20145624
You learn the words by seeing and looking them up in context.

>>20145633
>including stays in Japan
one stay as an exchange student where he hid in the bathroom to eat lunch and listen to anime on his ipod and then left after 6 months because he was miserable, watch his 3 hour video if you want more on that story

>>20145608
I don't know. I want to know Japanese, but I just never put in enough effort. I've probably only put in 2 years of consistent effort over those 14 years. Several years ago I was up to 7k Anki cards, but quit. This year I've watched about 150 hours of raw anime and learned to write over 1000 kanji, so I'm progressing a little.

>>20145649
also his host family was pissed at him because he didn't want to talk to them because you're supposed to not output when ajatting lol

>>20145649
Oh, that explains the attitude. Traumatized about his awful Japanese, he then learned it at a fairly normal pace and has to shove it in everyone's faces to compensate for his repressed memories.

>>20145653
goddamn, I learned how to write 3030 kanji in 3 months and I've started a year ago
I feel sad for you, hopefully I don't end up like you

>>20145634
What if my priority is just being able to read though. My goals for japanese are not that lofty. I just want to be able to read video games, and manga. I can see why seeing actions and being able to attach them to words is beneficial for acquisition, but wouldn't grinding a vocab deck just for a little bit be quicker for getting you into reading?

>>20145657
why does any of that matter. he's better than you. deal with it.

>>20145681
Alright matt you're just asking for it. I challenge you to a japanese rap battle. Don't pussy out on me cunt, give me your mail ado and we'll set it up live on youtube

>>20145696
>sign up for my patreon
I'm not giving you money, you silly bitch

>>20145674
I misunderstood you. I was just saying It makes sense to me to learn a few words before really tackling reading so you don't frustrate your self looking up common stuff early on.

>>20145710
you're going to frustrate yourself looking up common stuff no matter how long you put it off, but if you want to learn 500 words before you start that's fine

story sounded real to me

of course it's made up, what are the odds that Matt would just randomly meet such an incredibly autistic strawman

>>20145777
Digits confirm. I have no doubt he is under the impression the cocksuckers who gave him money will buy that shit in a heartbeat tough.

matt has like 5000 people who would recognize him. there are like 100 people who somewhat frequent these threads, and those 100 people are spread out all over the western world, so the odds are pretty low. Also if it is true it is almost 100% chance it is int as int supports retards like that while people on jp shit on anki drones and constantly say read more and watch anime.

I particularly like the parts where he hands this guy he just met a Japanese book to autistically test his reading and then walks off with him in search of Japanese people like he's collecting Pokémon for a Japanese dick measuring contest

I mean, if this really happened it's actually worse

Either way it's pretty revealing about Matt's character because this is not how normal people behave

>>20145840
>there are like 100 people who somewhat frequent these threads
you underestimate lurker to poster ratio

>>20145840
he said they were from 4chan, not necessarily from djt. this is really not hard to believe at all. people recognize even unpopular youtubers - it happens.

Next time someone meets him they should autistically scream 勝負 at him.

yoshi time to do the laundry

>>20145874
what do you think yoshi's pantsu smell like? ufufu

>>20145677
I don't get the Matt sucks at Japanese meme at all? He is literally good, we wish we could get to his level, let's be fucking honest...

>>20145880
stop false flagging

>>20143962
>There's a fair amount of people here recommending stupid stuff like premade vocab decks.
You mean like Matt now does?

A lot of people here say not to even do Core and almost everyone says you should go no further than 1K or 2K words at max.

It's short absences like these that puts into perspective just how badly he destroys threads, because even with the usual Mattposting the thread is better.

>>20145909
>poor
I'm finally native-level in English

>>20144436
>Because recommending people to do RTK before any real studying is practical somehow?
Don't forget the first month where you only do meditation.

With Matt's timeline, you don't even finish Tae Kim until you're already 6 fucking months into the process. 1 month mediating, 4 months RTK, 1 more month to do Tae Kim.

>>20145909
he recorded the 1 minute Japanese audio version of the "why I don't make videos in Japanese" video line by fucking line, that's how insecure he is about his fluent Japanese

it's just pathetic

>>20145909
The one video he has without a script sounds good. He knows Japanese, unsurprising considering he's made it his life for 8 years.
He's also an insecure piece of shit who can't get over himself, which results in him not having anything worthwhile to say in Japanese:
https://streamable.com/l6h0h

and also being too embarrassed to post even scripted videos on his channel because other "gaijin" will be looking at them.

>visit thread about once a month
>always posting about some faggot eceleb
/djt/ was a mistake

>>20145902
The problem with a user who spends all their time on a thread is they end up replying to anything that piques their interest. The result is a single power user with free time (Jamal) can constantly sway the flow of conversation and tone of a thread all on their own. A single annoying user can bring down the quality of an entire thread dramatically.

>>20145925
don't forget how many hours of content you've wasted on yourself when it was not compelling or comprehensible

I literally can't remember a word in Anki unless I've learned it from listening

>>20145901
why do people say to go no further than 1 k words if they arent even arranged in terms of frequency
words like dog or tree are thousand cards in
that deck is a total shit for someone to say 'stop at 1k dude', like that arbitrary number made even sense in the context of the deck

>>20145979
and that's why now vncore exists

>>20145928
It's funny to see someone making a ton of money by spouting complete bullshit about language learning when you can reach more or less his level with the DJT approach, probably better if you can practice your production regularly from early on.

>https://streamable.com/l6h0h
痛ッ

>and also being too embarrassed to post even scripted videos on his channel because other "gaijin" will be looking at them.
Probably because people would figure out he's full of shit, even in the Muramasa video he had to admit in the description that he misread a bunch of words despite having practiced it in advance.

So yes he "knows" Japanese but I doubt he can hold a meaningful conversation that doesn't revolve around himself.

>>20145963
I watched re zero with english subs

>>20145963
After 2 months I'm around Tae Tae while reading a VN. Hate this language.

>>20146037
I have read at list 1 vol of everything on that list. I cut out a lot of what I read and not everything on the list I enjoyed. like kino and konosuba were meh, while haruhi and oreimo are amazing and I read all volumes of them.

>>20145963
Leyline and bored wondering if I should try Kino.

>>20145963
I've read 6mb of VN text so whatever that is

>>20146034
VNs are fun though.

>>20146061
eeey geyline dude what's up take it easy man you're gonna make it

>>20145963
素晴らしき日々

>>20146061
Geyline dude, i recommend you try it. If nothing else it's something you can easily try without having to dl or install anything. Plus since it's short individual stories you get a better sense of progression from finishing a chapter.

is reading books you read before in English cheating?

having a great time reading murakami but I suspect some things would go over my head if I didn't know where the story's going

>>20146098
Just wondering, what's your IQ? I'd say give up if it's below 110. I think I speak for all of us when I say we are too busy being successful in our personal lives on top of learning Japanese to babysit you.

>>20146098
Just fake it until you make it. It actually works.

>>20146120
*kisses his cat* no u

>>20146098
welcome to language learning, if you don't like it read translations instead

stop false flagging

>>20146123
nah my man i started believing in just read when reading was still suffering because it was the first time i felt any progress

>>20146098
>and it never gets easier
>i went back to the beginning of leyline and i could more easily parse the words, and i could more easily understand what was happening than i could 2 months ago
It gets easier
It'll be a decent chunk of time before you don't need constant dictionary assistance, but that's life. Languages have a lot of fucking words. It takes time. But it does get easier.

>>20146141
>Cringe... if you believe in that then you must not be very smart
huh? i "believe" in it because i pay attention to experts in that field. are you a science denier? oh well, not the thread for it.
>You can tell a will-never-learn-Japanese apart from genuine Japanese knowers from the screenshots displaying below-90% retention rate in Anki and posts begging for support.
idk what that has to do with me. i'm not begging for support. i'm calling bullshit.

>>20146151
this is the only good post djt has seen in two hours

>>20146148
reading is always suffering in the beginning, even if you finished core20k

but if you're looking up literally every word it might be too soon

>>20146156
>g deniers
>experts
lol