/jp/ - Otaku Culture

i was so scared that djt was gone for good this time

imagine having an ego smaller than your penis lol

In anki, am I supposed to be learning these kanji at the same time as the vocabulary, or did I fuck something up in the set up?

How do I deal with this? The most advanced kanji I've ever encountered.

>>19644986
You're supposed to learn the reading and meaning of the word shown on the front of the card. Optionally you can look up more info about the kanji if you feel like it somehow helps you memorize the reading and meaning of the word.

>>19645009
糸 is a thread 虫 is bug

Does anyone have any links to the ムーミン谷 books? I've always wanted to try reading them.

>>19645021
Yea the story I'm stealing is that spiderman (thread) bent over to pick up a pretty flower but then someone dropped a glass canopy on his head and poured insects into the glass canopy. The insects try to wrap him in a cocoon so he pulls out his walking stick and starts swatting the insects.

oh boy djts up time to stop learning nihongo

Why is Tsubasa from Terrace House such a qt3.14

>>19645027
this feels like a haunted image

KKLC is teaching 剝く instead of 剥く. 剥 is more common, right? I don't think I've ever seen 剝 before.

>tfw I just had my first conversation in Japanese
>had to persuade the guy out of being 申し訳ない so he would stop trying to talk in broken English or Spanish
Why are the Japanese so unwilling to talk in Japanese?

>>19645305
Yamato Takeru didn't die so the nips would have to listen to weebs butcher their language

it's annoying having to dumb down your native speech for a retard.
it's more fun to be the foreigner retard trying to dumb down a native's speech.

>>19645305
cuz you're a gaijin, pull a mattat on him and he'll sing a different tune.

>>19645305
Correction - they don't want to hear you speak a language you mistakenly believe to be Japanese.

Can someone please post Jamal's VN guide?

>>19645305
>learn a bit of Spanish before going to Japan
>when someone talks in English talk back in Spanish
>now that they think you don't know English they will have to resort to Japanese
>problem solved

>>19645345
But what if they just 失礼します their way out of the conversation?

>>19645336
i laughed pretty good @ the idea of someone asking that with sincerity

here you fuckin go bro may all your input be comprehensible

>>19645089
No, not haunted at all. Only healing.

>>19645358
>just kidding I do know English
>oh then let me a practice
>say excuse me and walk away

I'm やればできる子 you stupid 出来ない fucks

>>19645345
I'm not a native English speaker, so whipping out a language nobody in nippon even recognizes isn't a problem for me. Actually thanks for the idea, I will try it out the next time.

PSPの日本語ゲームリストがありますか？
友達のために聞いています

So how many of you are actually living the NEET life

>>19645305
just start reciting this track top to bottom to be max irritating

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yEo87oaQXZY#t=49

dont worry about anything thats inconsistent with you thats thatll be the best part

>>19645397
>is game made by japs
>there's a jap version
Tell your friend to thank me later.

>>19645009
Don't worry, it gets worse. But you're over 2k kanji in by now, this is nothing you can't handle.

>>19645361
Thanks. Which of the 優しい ones are classified as "short" on vndb?

>>19645433
thats your research to do

>>19645433
Kiminozo, Clannad.

>>19645420
もう〜
この画像みたいのおすすめリスト聞いていなす！

>>19645436
めんどくさぇ

>>19645447
>Clannad
>short
I may be new to VNs, but not THAT new.

>優しい
so even jamal is dekinai

no thats just noob bait

>>19645461
Of course he's a dekinai. He posts here.

>>19645448
>monobeno
>moege
is this a troll chart

>>19645448
Just play the naruto games and have a good time.

it works really well

>>19645466
i stand corrected

>>19645461
>what are kanji puns

>>19645471
yah that charts pretty aids

>>19645448
wow thanks for a non-gay image guide

I read

jesus christ

its actually way more gay than mine which is only gay in name only

>>19645492
that looks really fun to read and think about

and you get to do that with thousands of kanji

what value thats so many hours of watching paint dry levels of excitement

>>19645499
>>19645492
rtk cross-reference

i actually read that and i feel like i just permanently corrupted some kanji data in my brain

>>19645509
just remember 以 thats it. dont remember the plow or the hand trick. just remember 以. remember that its used in 以上 and 以内. remember that it "looks like" 似る

>>19645492
This is supposed to be the RTK killer? And it's supposed to make up for its awful mnemonics with pointless isolated vocab study?

>>19645509
And even if you didn't like this story there are community websites that provide their own for RTK. I don't think that exists for KKLC.

>>19645538
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DsYYwElc0Ug

>>19645538
thanks for the advice. i didn't do kanji study for a long time and learned to read without kklc or rtk or whatever but now i want to write so i'm using the rtk method. i just thought it was funny how simple heisig makes things while i can't even understand what the kklc mnemonic is trying to do

you can make it even simpler by ignoring that shit and reading more

if you see a kanji and go i know that kanji but cant remember thats not actually a bad thing

keep reconfirming what it is and itll stick eventually but let what youre reading be the reinforcement tool

at what point Core 2k/6k stops being basic vocabulary and becomes more obscure? like for the first 300 words i go to jap twitter and the words are everywhere, where do this level of profit stops on said deck

>>19645588
>can only read
have fun being illiterate

>>19645560
actually i was kind of just trolling. dont know if those methods work or not, but that hand rule was crazy

>>19645361
Anyone have the chart that's like this, but not a meme?

>>19645599
whats your issue

Say, if you're still in the beginner stage (like, finish RTK and Core2k level beginner, not absolute beginner), does it worth anything to listen to things that doesn't have a transcript?

I love English podcasts because they make me feel less lonely in this foreign country, but listening to Japanese podcasts seem like a waste of time when I don't know enough. On the other hand, having a transcript on hand feels like cheating. This is of course Japanese transcripts, not subs.

if inputs not comprehensible its not really useful compared to comprehensible input but it could still be useful in intangible ways

youre supposed to be watching 10000 hours of anime subbed in portuguese before you even think about reading tho

Don't you guys get tired of typing the same thing over and over again

>>19645634
Otherwise your japanese is permanently crippled, I believe.

I just realized I never really used anime as a learning tool. I much prefer manga, LNs, or these SS stories, maybe VNs.

>>19645623
everything done in japanese is worth it. some things are more worth it though, like reading and listening to stuff that you basically know what's going on. at your stage it's very difficult to find material like that

>>19645643
no trying to read sooner wont permanently cripple your japanese as you dont have any japanese to cripple

also animes pretty tops dude you need 10000 hours of it

in your life

Tonight's ペルセウス座流星群 night. Want to watch them with a cute jp gf some time.

>>19645638
I'm pretty sure I could say that about all of /jp/, regardless of thread

>>19645638
No. You know what gives me the motivation to keep on posting the same old pointless bullshit even though I have no idea what I'm talking about? The Debbie downers and negative Nancys in this thread.

>>19645638
I wonder the same thing about the Eva threads on /a/

Anyone have any suggestions on where to get western media with japanese subtitles/audio?

>>19645768
amazon japan

>>19645768
Don't bother unless it's Avatar the Last Airbender from amazon.

How do I make my "so" (hiragana) look less shitty?

Easy. Just stop caring.

Anon I can't do that!

dekinai

>>19645817
make the bottom part more stretched out. if you can't copy someone's handwriting that you like then you are pretty much doomed. it's a really easy skill to develop

>>19645861
i'm pretty happy with most of my kana, its just that 'so' and occasionally a few other characters look ugly as fuck when i'm trying to write quickly

>>19645871
it's ok for handwriting to look shitty if you're writing quickly

your power levels just broke my scouter. this board is truly a safe haven from the normals

>>19645538
>just remember 以 thats it
When I started learning, I quicky learned kana and read through Tae Kim in a week for basics of how the langauge works and jumped straight into a visual novel. And I can tell you all kanji for a beginner look the same. Like even seeing the difference between 大-犬-太 is super hard and actual similar looking ones like 網-綱 or 線-綿 etc is virtually impossible. So you have to draw them cause you don't know what they mean every time. Which is also funny, cause if I see new kanji nowadays and can't guess the reading, I quicky memorize what components it has and draw it in google translate in 5 seconds, but when you are new you are gonna alt-tab back and forth between game window and google translate for every stroke and it takes like 2 minutes to even draw kanji and by that time the whole "context" of what the kek are you ever reading is out the window. And if you only had to draw all of them once it would be nice but the reality is that the next day you'll forget the once you've already looked up anyways. So here's a true story and one example. I did just try to power through and persist with reading for a bit over a month. During that month I saw word 確認, which is super common word so no wonder, like 8 times and each time I just saw it it new context, my brain would go "fuck, I should know this, I already looked it up...can't remember....draw it again -> get mad that couldn't remember -> draw it like 10 times by hand -> 2 days later, can't remember it again, repeat cycle!" And to the point where I was about to quit learning the langauge. So if you are not interested in stuff with furigana, and I'm not (I'd rather shoot myself then read manga or NHK easy), recognition is a crazy issue for a beginner. It's hard to sympathize when you are already literate, cause it seems like you can tell everything just from context, like how do you tell the difference between 湛える and 堪える? literate person will say, it doesn't matter, you'll read the 傷の痛さを湛える even with wrong kanji cause you won't even look at it, you'll just read through but that's not true for anyone who's not literate yet so you need to put yourself in their position.

>>19645906
>大-犬-太
The - especially are very difficult to distinguish.

>https://youtu.be/8EqcL-HVYWE?t=243
Is he right about the snowball effect of learning related words more easily as time progresses?

lingo steves a snow baller

>>19645949
Didn't watch the video but big yes.

yeah once you start learning nihongo everythings gonna snowball its sick you start connecting everything and it forms this epic network of words known as language

>>19645982
This is probably a ruse post but that's not incorrect.
Once you really get into Japanese and make some progress you'll realize that English is an absolutely retarded language.

nothing i ever posted was a ruse

ever

>>19645995
>you'll realize that English is an absolutely retarded language.
But I already knew this

>>19645906
>google translate
stopped reading right there

>don't read NHK easy
if you don't work your way up you may as well quit. you can't go from reading genki lesson 1 to romeo

>>19646058
I stole that from reddit but he claims he started learning/reading Japanese with VNs and after a year and a half he's read more than a dozen.

do you do your daily anki all at once or multiple bursts throughout the day?

>>19646115
yeah

敬語難しいから普通にしゃべましょう
それでいいですか

>>19646115
I put it off until the last minute, but make sure to do it every day.

>>19646115
>brain hurts
>recall less than 50% of deck
im fucked

>>19646115
Usually several bursts. I will commit to doing at least 10 reps. Sometimes I stop at 10, but sometimes I just get into it and keep going.

>>19646115
used to do them all at once but now i don't do it at all because i have more fun just reading
unfortunately my retention has dropped to 0% for words i haven't seen before but what can you do? i'd rather drop anki and make use of japanese than burn out and give up completely

>>19645768
Don't bother. You want material that is written originally in Japanese for a Japanese audience, not media that was written for a western audience and has since been translated into Japanese. The translated material has a noticeable difference in tone that doesn't fit with regular speech styles for Japanese.

>>19645361
>yasashii
>gyakuten saiban
giving it a whirl and yeah so far it's pretty conversational but there's some vocab i'd've never seen before of course that having been said i'm getting a completely different flavor from naruhodo's dialogue than i did when i played the translated version all those years ago, he speaks so politely that it's kind of sweet.

>>19646115
make it part of your wake-up routine. it's better to have a clear schedule where you don't have to stress about doing anki for the rest of the day and you can focus on reading and listening to japanese

>>19646332
hes a gentle man

If I want to order a 5 nugget set from McDonald's would it be okay to just say Go nugget setto kudasai?

just scream chicken nuggets お願いします

>>19646509
I usually just yell "NUGGIES NUGGIES" until they give me nuggies or call the police.

>>19645592
There are extremely common words right up to the end (and some uncommon ones). It's just better to mine because mined words will be even more useful.

>>19646578
I find actually letting your tongue out and panting like a horny dog helps a lot. Make sure to moisten your tongue to make it presentable.

>>19646540
>>19646578
>>19646615
Dammit guys im hungry as fuck and just wanna buy some nuggets

Alright lads I'm off to McDonald's, you guys want anything?

>>19646633
Yell "CHCKENU NUGGETERU REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE"

Works everytime

>>19646633
i mean if you scream what i told you youre gonna get nuggets

>>19646641
Get me the smile from that cute McDonalds employee.

>>19646641
Mmm, yeah, could ya get me two big macs, a 20 piece nuggets and a large fry? Oh, and a diet coke. Don't wanna get fat after all.

>>19646641
A 5 piece chicken nugget set please

>>19646641
ギガビグマクお願いします

chicken nuggetsもってこい

Alright I'm back, rub a dub dubしましょう

wheres my mcwrap you mcfuckhead

>>19646641
yea grab me a sense of purpose

>need help with daily Japanese
>Decide to post in the daily Japanese thread instead of make a whole new thread
>Every one just mocks you

FUCK YOU GUYS IM HUNGRY AS FUCK AND JUST WANT SOME HELP ORDERING FOOD!! WILL MY ORIGINAL QUESTION WORK OR NOT?!?!?!?

stfu idiot

>>19646648
Here's that smile by the way
>>19646722
Out of frameです
>>19646724
They were out, sorry

>>19646733
What was your question again?

>>19646742
This

>>19646509

Can the average nipper write all jouyou kanji from memory?

>>19646751
take a shit on the floor and write "nug nug" with it

>>19646751
Oh. It would be チキンマックナゲット 5ピースお願いします

>>19646751
>>19646540

or if you wanna be more laid back and casual >>19646681

>>19646733
if you can't speak japanese just point on the menu and they'll understand that you want to buy that

>>19646738
lower

>>19646818
I usually do but then they ask if I want a set or or how many pieces, I just wanted to get it right first time

>>19646825
use your fingers

>>19646820
Sure thing boss

how do you go from stopping adding new words from a month back to adding 20 new words every day again

i wish new words stuck as well as when i was learning english as a kid but at this point my retention rate for stuff i don't anki is utter shit, i think

lower it to 10 a day and read and listen more.

i never really read before i stopped adding words to anki though because it was always an insurmountable 1-2 hours of hundreds of reps before which i couldn't just relax and read/watch all day
anki is actively harmful to my actual immersion

>>19646900
Are you reading now?

I remember most words (~85% of them) after seeing them ~4 times or less while reading.

by that do you mean 4 separate times as in maybe hour or days apart i.e. spaced repetition because when there's one discussion where a new word is used multiple times in the single conversation and then i don't see it used again for days i don't remember it anymore
am i dumb or is that normal

i forgot how excellent the first few games in this series are.

>>19646984
What is this?

>>19647002
逆転裁判

>>19647002
it's the first 逆転裁判 game. i was expecting it to be really difficult to understand considering it's a courtroom drama, but the first case is straightforward and nobody with a crazy accent or anything showed up, just some slurring and slang here and there. i'd highly recommend trying it some time. bonus points if you already played the english version because you get to see how the name puns were translated.

>>19647014
Ah, I've seen those games but never played them. I'll have to pick them up at some point. I always assumed that there would be a lot of courtroom terminology that I'd have to learn, so I was putting it off until later when I can afford to spend time on more specific stuff like that.

>>19647018
the courtroom terminology is there, but since they repeat it so often you pick it up pretty fast. plus the context helps a lot, too. there's also lengthy segments where you're just gathering evidence and investigate stuff where you don't have to worry about terms like those popping up.

its literally a videogame for a child

>>19646946
Within a few hours or weeks apart. Didn't really notice a difference. I forget words too, obviously. It's normal to forget and every time that happens you're more likely to remember the word the next time. It's basically like Anki but with irregular rep times.

>>19645422
I was joking about the cocoon one, but you're right that it got worse. I just finished the chapter and as Heisig said they all had a weird quirk. It'll probably take a week or so of anki for them to sink in.

>>19646846
lower

>>19647052

>>19647052

>>19647040
nihongolly speaking, i'm a child, so it checks out

every time i see something like オートバイ it makes me want to slit my wrists why do they want to ruin their language with loanwords from shitty european languages when they have 単車 etc

european loanwords are awesome because they fix the homonym-ridden garbage that is the japanese language

>learn japanese
>by the time you finally know it they're just speaking english with a funny accent and grammar

no need to be homophobic yall

ごちゃごちゃいわずに

あんきだ！

「きょうはどうなさいますか」
「きょうはどうなさいましたか」
「きょうはどうしますか」
「きょうはどうですか」

>>19647109
なんでやねん！

Fuck you guys, now I gotta find a new McDonald's to go to

>>19645336
You mean this?

>>19645492
Can't believe there are people who unironically use this.

>>19647138
you mean https://nihongobyjamal.neocities.org/

>>19644741
You're the narcissistic one.

>>19647148
You can't learn Japanese if you care about supplementary resources being good or bad.

>>19647160
when are you gonna call out op for being a little kid in the head

>>19647063
i would love to just stick my face in between those and *brrrrrrrrrr*

>>19647110
ごびがちがうのは

おみせがちがうだけ

でも

いみはおなじだよ

「あなたの意を問う」だよ

I've never heard of a promontory in my life and there are three fucking kanji for the word. What other words or things have you never head about until you started learning nip? Eaves is another one for me.

>>19647148
Hi. I unironically use this. It works.

>>19644741
that guide is no longer maintained and is full of outdated information

https://itazuraneko.neocities.org/

>>19647199
why would i give a fuck about anything like that

>>19647284
because you're the don

>>19647222
Decameron appears incredibly early in RTK is what I remember.

>>19647222
are you talking about rtk? the guy who wrote it is an old, wise philosopher who knows a word or two

一点突破
What does it mean?

>>19647307
Nah. Just some Kanji I came across.
崎岬埼= All mean the same thing, they're used in names of places like 埼玉長崎川崎 etc
軒 as well.
>>19647304
At least this one was easy to understand, never heard of it though, prior to studying that is.

>>19647222
The botany ones, like Paulownia, Camphor, or Horse Chestnut.

>>19647110
>>19647217
つまりえいやくすると

ぜんぶ

May I help you?なのかな

あたしのえいごりょくではわかんない

>>19647304
Decameron comes up fairly often on Jeopardy. I always get it right because of RTK.

盛
name a worse kanji than this piece of shit

Should I buy this book? Loads of expats reccomend it, but it doesn't seem like anyone here uses it? Is there a better alternative (idc about money) or is /DJT/ just full of neets who only use FOSS?

>>19647387
>/DJT/
you need to go back

>>19647382
>盛
What's bad about it?

>>19647402
it's abstract radicals, meaning and readings
it's a piece of shit

>>19647395
Oof

>>19646195
yo... 72 min? 701 cards??? you're gonna hit burnville at that rate. I know i would.

>>19646713
where's the fries bitch

>>19647065
higher

>>19647416
>盛
When the first alchemist learned to turn normal kitchen dishes into gold his failing business boomed overnight. Not too hard. Just let your inner autism out and you'll be overflowing with wacky stories.

>>19647471
Go back to /r/learnjapanese.

>>19647279
Fuck off with that bloated trash.

>>19647617
it's not bloated, you're just offended for some reason

>>19647619
>it's not bloated
It's bloated and you need to learn how to create a fucking website.

>>19647640
I'm not the one that made it and it's both smaller and contains less javascript than the one you put in the OP.

https://pastebin.com/raw/BYxcz363

Can you stop now? You're screwing with people who visit whatever the link in the OP is for the first time.

The old site is just full of outdated crap that's bad or doesn't work anymore (like the yomichan import guide being broken).

If you really just hate the itazuraneko site (and no, I'm not the person who made it), make your own and post that instead. We can't go on with an outdated unmaintainable site in the OP.

This isn't about you.

>>19647614
lol you go ahead and convince yourself that's normal. I'll just stick to sentence mining

hey can i get a fuckin uhhhhhhhh good place to start learning how accents and dialects work

>>19647737
have you considered learning japanese first

>>19647738
too hard, next question

>>19647737
ey ya wanker, ya might wanna uhhhhh learn that there normal japanese first fore ya be tryin ta learn them there uhhhh dialects.

>>19647738
>>19647770
could you not answer the question anyways? maybe he already speaks enough japanese or someone else in this thread does and is wondering the same

>>19647781
someone who actually knows japanese will not need to ask about where to get such resources because they can literally just google X弁 and look for good results

>>19647781
if anyone could speak japanese they'd be in one of the /int/ threads instead of here

>>19647804
They'd be in the eroge thread here on /jp/ or the japanese thread (not the djt) on /int/.

i return

>>19647831
How can one be truly fluent yet not know japanese

>djt

>>19647837
It's like being able to understand spanish, but not actually know spanish.

>>19647831
>Truly fluent (never trips on things)
Shit bro I guess I'm not even fluent in my native language.

>>19647831
get out of here damn it

>>19647837
anyone who knows japanese is automatically fluent, but "fluent" and "knows japanese" are different things, therefore there must be people who are fluent but don't know japanese

oh yeah I guess that means I messed up

here

maybe blue and black should overlap a little

it's implied that there's no gap between them

>>19647885
Fluency is just the ability to talk without having to think about word order etc., you can have the Japanese skills of a 3 year old and be "fluent" yet you only have a vocabulary of 2000 and simple as fuck grammar constructions. To be frank, the thing messing up your graph is the "doesn't know Japanese" part, you may as well split it into JLPT levels instead otherwise you run into the issue of when you know Japanese and when you don't and none of it makes sense.

I don't actually care about this graph I just see you're very into it so I figured I'd help anyway.

>>19647905
that's why conversational fluency and true fluency are different categories in this graph

>>19647905
also anyone who fails the JLPT and didn't just fail it because they're completely illiterate doesn't know japanese

>>19647911
Again, what is "fluency"? We can just as easily remove the word completely from your graph and just have "Truly [native]" and "Conversational" and it would mean the same exact thing. Adding fluent is just creating more opportunities for confusion among the readers of the graph, which makes it a bad graph.

>>19647915
Again we run into the issue of what "know Japanese" means. If I read Genki 1, I know Japanese. Not all of it, but I know it.

>>19647921
truly fluent doesn't mean nativelike

>>19647923
Then again, for the nth time, I ask: What does "fluent" mean? You can't just arbitrarily decide on meanings on words in a graph because people won't understand and it people don't understand the graph it's a bad graph.

>>19647926
i don't care about your juvenile obsession with semantics

>>19645027
Shouldn't you be learning Swedish instead then?

>>19647932
Well then I apologize for trying to help you fix your piece of shit graph that wouldn't even get a passing grade in a middle school class.

>>19647936
i think you need to go back to middle school

Can someone tell me why 3 is a bad answer here? Is it just because ところに is better?

>>19647382
下 and 上 are easily the worst

>>19647938
At least I'd get to see better graphs #savage #kidgetsmadathelp #evenalinegraphwouldbebetter

>>19647951
nevermind you're still in middle school

>>19647950
why, one points down and one points up

only times it's じょうげ　and　うえした, sometimes you don't know when in a new word it's かみ until you hear it

>>19647957
カ
ゲ
した
しも
もと
さげる
さがる
くだる
くだす
くださる
おろす
おりる

>>19647957
ジョウ
ショウ
うえ
うわ
かみ
あげる
あがる
のぼる
のぼせる
のぼす

>>19647952

>>19647977
it seems that you're assuming that i am certain other resident shitposters and that is why you are being so hostile

>>19647948
Same here. Why is 3 bad? Because 2 is better?

>>19647948
Because 困っていた is a situation, not an instant.

>>19648001
3 doesn't fit the sentence. People tend to think of toys as blah blah.

>>19648030
>Because 困っていた is a situation, not an instant.
Oh, thanks. I was reading it like a moment in time for some reason.

>3 doesn't fit the sentence. People tend to think of toys as blah blah.
I can see how 2 and 3 mean different things I guess.

>>19647661
>The old site is just full of outdated crap
There isn't anything wrong with the current op and as long as anyone can make the op the proper site will remain as it is now.

>If you really just hate the itazuraneko site
It's ugly, poorly designed and you can't handle the fact that not everyone is sucking your dick. Do you even read your autistic and self absorbed rambling, or do you get off to people reading it? https://itazuraneko.neocities.org/pages/updates.html That's casebook narcissistic exhibitionism. Seek help instead of trying to tear apart this thread. Not everything is about you.

>>19647948
its often go like : ... + tokoroni + some thing good/bad happen

>>19648064
The fact that you seriously continue to think I'm the person in charge of that site is hilarious. I hope everyone understands how crazy you are.

>>19648064
wut you hate the updated site just because its ugly ?
i even like it cause the black theme by default so i dont have to switch to night mode

Anki is fun.

Just came here to find a novel to download and try to parse for example sentences... we'll see how that goes. Anyway, thanks to whoever maintains the mega archive full of those.

>>19647991
nah m8 ur the hostile one, i be here tryin to tell you that ur graph is too confusing and you be there telling me to fuck off. i just be reacting appropriately by giving up on helpin u and just sayin ur graph is shit instead of workin with ya to improve it, ya dig? sorry that ya cant take criticism, if ya could then we would be havin an entirely different conversation right now ya hear? maybe somethin like

>>19647926 this then
>what you meant by "doesn't know Japanese"
>me offering a different way to put it on a graph
>conversation continues
>graph is updated to something more readable

instead we got

>>19647926 this then
>fuck you kid I don't care about your fucking definitions

So again I'll say: I tried to help, you didn't accept it, so now your graph will just have to remain shit. Not that anyone would care about it anyway since the entire idea of it is retarded but since you seemed to really want to make one I WAS willing to help until you acted like a complete child about it.

>>19648131
i'm not going to read your post sorry

>>19648131
Bad faith is hostility.

>あれ？さとうさんって、今日お休みだったっけ？

1: ええ、とっても楽しかったです
2: はい。昨日、（お）休みでした
3: あ、午後からのしゅっきんだそうです

(3 is right.) Is 1 wrong because the question is a っけ question?

>>19648171
It's wrong because he's not asking Satou (who took the morning off), but one of their co-workers.

>>19648183
Oh, that makes sense. Thanks.

Those are the only questions I had problems with.

>>19648064
>There isn't anything wrong with the current op
It lacks information that the new one provides. Therefore, the new one is better. It's literally that simple, why are you so mad over this? Are you here to learn japanese or to argue over pointless site aesthetics?

>>19648171
Where is this from?

>>19648194
JLPT online mock test for N2.

ソムタイムズ　アイ　ワォンダー　イッフ　イングリッシュ　スピキング　ピーパル　アル　エーブル　ツ　リアーライズ　ザット　アイ　エッム　アックシャリー　ライティング　イン　イングリッシュ　ライット　ナオ　バット　ジャスット　ウイッス　ベッリ　ジャパニーズ　スペリング。

>>19648198
Are the other two questions you posted from the same test? Damn. I would have guessed N4 or something.

>>19648202
Yes.

Anything below N3 is pathetically easy. You could pass N4 doing nothing but reading a very single grammar guide, reading manga with furigaga, and watching anime, for a very short period of time like a month ortwo.

>>19648171
(1) is wrong because the question is about today and that's in the past tense, probably.

Are you a bad enough dude to pass the N5?

>>19648207
I assumed that it was the afternoon.

>>19648208
No.

>>19648208
に

>>19648208
I'm stuck on the 言語知識, I'll never learn Japanese

>>19648134
Nice hostility :^)

>>19648156
I tried to help him, he wasn't having it. Any hostility I showed him (which I did) was a response to his hostility. His hostility came from him not being able to accept any help/critique from strangers and a general unwillingness to admit that something he made might not be the best.
The point is, the graph is bad. He can complain that I'm arguing semantics as much as he wants because it's true, BECAUSE if the semantics are confusing then the graph is confusing, and if the graph is confusing then the graph is bad. Graphs exist to turn data into information, if people can't read the data then the graph is shit.

>>19648230
Wow, you're fucked up.

>>19648233
Nice hostility

>>19648211
If it was afternoon but still during work, it probably wouldn't be (1), because then the speaker'd be asking if satou-san had the morning off, not the whole day.

If it was afternoon and after work, then the speaker probably wouldn't say あれ as if it was something she just noticed.

Well, maybe, anyway. Something about it seems unnatural if it's in the afternoon.

>>19648183
(I also think this person is correct, if that wasn't obvious)

>>19648212
:^)

>>19648263
Yeah it definitely boils down to what that person said imo. I assumed that they were speaking directly to Satou, and had no idea they were both working together or anything.

「かいごナビNursing Facility Nvigation」クイズ
anonは解ける？

>>19648281
I don't even understand the rules.

nvm I got it, I just don't know the answers yet

>>19648281
1 - 色
2 - 用
3 - 主
4 - 退
5 - 対
6 - 係
7 - 茶
8 - 意
9 - Dunno.

>>19648303
find the kanji which can make 4 words.
e.g.
　　毎
　　↓
明→？→本
　　↓
　　時
？＝日、because you can make 明日、毎日、日本、日時

Even English crosswords kill me, so facing pic related I can safely descend to hell.

>>19648316
in a flash ?! awesome!
i guess you are good at word games in general

>>19648323
17 is 世界

FUCK I'm so good at JApanese.

>>19648352
If 17 is 界, what would fit the 17 and 21 on the bottom row?

I...I don't think think these are crosswords.

>>19648357
FUCK

>>19645448
I feel like I should be able to read Axanael with my 2600 Kanji grid but I picked these up reading it today:
祓う
寸毫
譫言
祟り
冤罪　
箝口令
I wonder how many more new ones I'll find by the end but it's certainly more than I thought. That's not to say the VN itself is anything but easy though.

>>19648281
色、退、茶、用、対、意、no idea、係、衣

>>19648357
17=代
22-世-22-17=一世一代
break the cipher

>>19647948
４でゲソ

>>19645397
If you're looking just for games that don't have an English version (although some might be patched), try these:

Digimon Adventure
-> Very beginner-friendly. Has both furigana in all dialogue and voice acting in most dialogue. Menus don't have much furigana but aside from the 'junk' items you pick up most of it's in kana. Has some great cutscenes custom-made for this game which you'll appreciate if you saw the original cartoon. Combat is pretty simplistic though and fighting Numemons gets dull after awhile.

Rockman DASH 1 & 2
-> Both games are great but iirc only 2 has furigana. Both have voice acting though, and the nihongo is pretty simple.

Time Travelers
-> Haven't played it myself but it seems great. Lots of voice acting and beautiful cutscenes.

Criminal Girls
-> A bit harder language-wise. It's a dungeon crawler type game where you rehabilitate cute girls by punishing and rewarding them.

Nayuta no Kiseki
-> Action RPG. Great graphics.

Tales of Phantasia X
-> Remake of a SNES game. Plot dialogue is fully voiced. The only really difficult words are in Cless' moves which can be long strings of kanji referring to various animals or seasons or whatever. Also includes Narakiri Dungeon X.

Aside from that, you might also want to check out Persona 2, Persona 3, Valkyria Chronicles and/or Steins Gate. Also, if you've got a hacked PSP (which really only involves you getting a memory card and putting the right software on it) you've got access to the entire PS1 library, which is full of JRPGs, and there are good GBA, NES and SNES emulators too.

>>19648441
>rehabilitate cute girls by punishing and rewarding them
Man, I'm such a pervert I can't even conceive how this can be done without making the game an H.

>>19648449
Well it's not *technically* an H-game but it is a game about spanking girls to boost their power so it's probably not exactly something you want to be playing in public.

>>19648456
wasn't there a non-H game where you have to make 'children' with girls through some magic process that is combining your 'essence' with the girl's or something? Man, the perverts sure are creative.

>>19648323
こういうのは

じみちにやっていけば

できるようになってるんだから

そのうちできるよ

はんぶんやって

あきた

>recognize words while reading that you never ever would have remembered in anki because of context

be honest, is anki a meme, i really want to quit it or at least cut down on the time i use on it

>>19648475
Like what?

>>19648475
I simultaneously agree with you and yet is still filled with the dread that I won't remember things until I made some effort and put it in an Anki deck.

At this point the only 'valid' effort to me is putting things on Anki, but I'm slowly growing to hate anki, yet unsure if just reading things would actually make me remember it.

I mean, I don't remember ever using an actual memorization effort when I learned English, but japanese is different.

>>19648475
I only used anki for the first 200 words in core just for a foundation and I passively use it for kanji. Using it for anything else is a meme.

>>19648516
>I passively use it for kanji.
What do you mean by 'passively use'? Not paying attention to whether you got it correct or not, just pressing buttons to get to the next one?

>>19648519
When I'm not doing anything else and I have like 5 minutes I'll open up anki and blitz through some kanji. Any more time than that and I do something that'll actually help like read.

>>19648516
>>19648522
You're a hero, you know that?

>>19648516
How do you read if you don't know the vast majority of the words though? Do you just brute force it?

Are there any differences between 雷撃 and 電撃？ both 雷 and 電 are electric kanji

>>19648543
The 200 most commonly used words cover, like, 70% of the language. That sounds like more of a meme than it is, you do understand 70% but the other 30% is where all the meaning and context is.

"Brute force" is a nasty word, I learn through constant exposure. The thing is, the words you need to know the most are the words you'll naturally see more of since they'll pop up in stuff more often, and the words that aren't as important you won't see as often. Because of that I naturally see a word just as often as I feel like I need to just by reading. It's like optimized SRS or something.

>>19648564
How do you know if you read the words correctly?

>>19648574
Usuaully furigana or rikai

飛んでいるファックあげない

もうちょっと

>>19644741
>edition
It's like we're reaching new lows every single day.

>>19648564
Lord i don't even know what to think of this.
On one hand this does kinda make sense, most sentences in english also have the same group of words that structure the context (the 30% less common words being the "core concept") but at the same time, i see mentions that even the simplest VNs have around 1K unique kanji.
What do you read? Where did you even start? Your method just seems so unorthodox yet simple compared to the long haul that everything else suggests

>>19648616
Learning the 2136 standard kanji or not through something like anki is really a choice you'll have to make on your own. Certainly you'll memorize them faster that way, I chose not to because it was boring and now that I've gone back to anki them in my spare time I've already suspended about 500 out of 700 so far because I already knew them from exposure.

I think I started with Yotsubato like most people. To be honest I bought a LingQ account so after that I can't really give a lot of advice, I read a lot of Easy NHK and Night on the Galactic Railroad though which you can probably find in other places.

できた

あってる？

for anyone stuck in windows 10
you can now install anki using scoop package manager

How do Kangxi radicals help? Also, do I need to remember the number for each radical?

>>19648673
>do I need to remember the number for each radical?
You need to remember these as much as you need to remember the actual position of each letter in the alphabet, like H's 8 or P's 16.

>>19648673
If you don't know the reading for each radical then you may as well just learn Spanish instead.

>>19648688
I see. I was wondering why they put the radical numbers in the Anki deck.

>>19648713
it's so you can cross reference

>>19648673
Remembering Kanji as combinations of radicals is way easier than learning each Kanji independently without consideration to their constituents.
>Also, do I need to remember the number for each radical
Absolutely not. In fact you don't have to learn each and everyone of them, but it's probably for the best to at least be familiar with the majority.

>>19648688
I was contemplating using this example, but then I realiised (virtually) every English speaker knows the English alphabet ordering, while only a minuscule minority of Japanese speakers know the Kangxi ordering.
Learning the Alphabet ordering is more like knowing the 五十音

>radical of 取 is 又
>radical of 和 is 口
>radical of 相 is 目
>radical of 酒 is 酉

>>19648759
t. I don't know shit about radicals

>>19648775
Was there something wrong?

なんだこれ

ｄｊｔもっとがんばれ

>>19648731
So do the radicals have anything to do with the kanji? For example, the kanji for cow would be made up from the radicals of grass and milk.

>>19648831
Most kanji consist of a phonetic part and a semantic part. These parts can be radicals, another kanji, or random pieces of garbage. The kanji with obvious semantic radicals usually stand for physical things that are defined by the stuff they're made of, like "lake" (water radical) or "arm" (meat radical).

湖
滝
池
沼
源
汗
汐
汁
汀
液
涙
海
濡

You CANNOT reliably predict what kanji mean based on their radicals.

治
涯
漢
法
泊
洞
活
派

It's actually very uncommon for a kanji's semantic component to be its radical, it's usually some other kanji.

>>19648878
Unless it's a domestic kanji, those are based. 峠

よりもいみた

なきたいひとはすきだとおもう

>>19648878
>The radicals of 泊 cannot reliably predict its meaning
UH
IN THE PAST PRETTY MUCH EVERY HOTEL HAD AN ONSEN WHICH IS WHITE WATER, YOU FUCKING MONGREL.

>>19648906
Consider the following: https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/%E6%B3%8A#Etymology

Is core 2k/6k the best anki deck to start with or is there a better one put up recently?

does anyone have a link to Dogen's unlisted videos? are they any good?

>>19648475
It's fine to give up on anki so long as you immerse for more hours:
>>>/wsg/2330090

それはとってもいい話だ

>>19649242
He said so much yet it felt like he said nothing. Who's this guy?

just add 10k sentences to your deck and then delete anki to become fluent

>>19649333
One of the greatest Japanese learners ever.

>>19649341
I thought Tae Kim was Korean.

>>19649341
>Fails for years to learn Japanese
>Finally learns it
>"Best"
He says what literally anyone who knows what they're talking about says: Read and listen a lot. I'm not saying he's bad but he's no better than Steve-sama.

>>19647935
If I wanted to read it in the original language, yeah. But the reason I learned about it and fell in love with it in the first place was because of Japan. I have a million more things I like to read in Japanese and nothing else in Swedish, so I think it's okay to look for the Japanese version.

>>19649371
>finally learns it
that alone qualifies him as one of the best ever
>He says what literally anyone who knows what they're talking about says: Read and listen a lot.
most people don't know what they're talking about
>Steve-sama
steve spent like 9 years in japan as a diplomat so that's a compliment.

>>19649371
matt sounds way better than kaufmann when speaking japanese

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iaIo5sXcHIw

The absolute state of team A.

かけたくなかったんとちゃうかな
sometimes i hate this language
how much of a brainlet for not getting something like this at a glance

>>19649385
>That along qualifies him as one of the best ever
No it doesn't, someone could learn Japanese in a completely horribly unoptimized way then say it's the best method ever because that's how they did it.

>most people don't know what they're talking about
This does not counter my point at all, I agree with this.

>It's a compliment
Yeah it is.

>>19649402
Steve-sama doesn't really keep up with his Japanese so it's constantly rusty, but the point is that he learned it in an optimized way. Matt isn't saying anything new, really.

>>19649464
> he learned it in an optimized way
So how did he learn it?

>>19649472
see >>19649371
I think it's implied hard enough. I also think >>19649464 implies it pretty hard by saying Matt's methods aren't new.

>>19649464
>someone could learn Japanese in a completely horribly unoptimized way
the problem is that his method mostly involved lots of input, so even if you think SRS or something is inefficient his method is still more efficient than most because of the sheer amount of input he recommends. one of the greatest most based learners of our time.
>This does not counter my point at all
not directly but it puts into perspective how few people actually end up becoming fluent in japanese and he's one of them, and he did it in only a few years.
>Matt isn't saying anything new, really.
he outright states that he knows what he knows about input because of khatz and that khatz knew what he knew because of antimoon, who knew what they knew because of krashen.

>>19649464
fair enough. i'm not dissing steve but his way of speaking is very unnatural sounding and he lived there for 9 years as a diplomat i believe. that should say something about his method (compare to khatzumoto's and matt's speaking ability after only a couple years). the difference might just be the amount of immersion in a period of time

matt's recommended method isn't even what he personally did

>>19649494
I think Steve actually became fluent in the same amount of time, 2-3 years. To be fair, Steve already knew Chinese so he could skip kanji, but still.

>>19649497
yea but unless you think 2-3 years of highschool japanese courses are more efficient than his recommendation (skip classes, immediately get daily input while doing RTK) then your criticism is silly

yes recommending three months of rtk before you dedicate lots of time to reading is a great method recommendation

>>19649497
this is true. matt did 'lazy kanji' aka kanji -> english meaning study at the beginning. he also lived in japan and went to high school and lived with a japanese family aka he was outputting before he was fluent. i can't think about anything else but it's true he did not follow the algorithm he now prescribes (oh yeah meditation too lmao)

>>19649512
napping is a very important part of having a healthy adult mind anon no bully

>>19649511
3 months of dedicating lots of time to listening while doing RTK beats 3 years of classes but i'm glad you acknowledge that your criticism of him taking 3 years of japanese classes therefore he shouldn't advocate for someone to do something else in the beginning phases is retarded.

>>19649512
>mfw matt LITERALLY recommends you meditate for a few months before even starting to learning Japanese

ONE OF THE BEST LEARNERS OF OUR TIME

>>19649523
i never said him doing three years of classes is something he should recommend lmao

honestly if you want to be like matt just condense what he actually did and cut out the parts that are obviously BS and you'll do better than taking his actual advice

>>19649512
>aka he was outputting before he was fluent
he kept output to a minimum in japan. he would just stay in his room watching anime all day, which caused his host family to hate him. and yea he thinks what he did in japan was a mistake and regrets it.

i do wonder about these new ajatters following matt. there was a video someone posted of a british guy who did ajatt for 12 months or something and talked for 3 hours in english and he said he could understand anime and manga or whatever but he was too scared to say words like できる and すみません (two of the most common words in the entire god damn language)

>>19649548
was that the guy who talked about the dlsite eroge trials because if so he's actually legit

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JuJW3bWmJ9Q

yea there's a new generation of AJATTers who are more fluent in a year than people who have been here for years.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fpCTZQFJcjc&feature=youtu.be&t=2h34m20s
timestamp 2h34m20s

>>19649550
idk he's the 24 year old dude who couldn't get a job after college so now he wants to run away to japan. seems like a nice guy but why is he so scared to say basic words that he should have been exposed to hundreds of thousands of times? is matt telling people they will ruin their japanes forever if they speak japanese or something? like he seemed really worried about speaking single words

>>19649555
>Better than the people here
That's not very impressive.

t. person here

>>19649560
pronouncing things correctly is something you do multiple years in not after your first year imo

>>19649560
>is matt telling people they will ruin their japanes forever if they speak japanese or something?
Yea. And if you watch the whole video he says he thinks his output is forever tainted because he read too much ahead of listening.

>>19649579
>>19649560
Can confirm, I started speaking English (my native language) before I was totally ready and now I have a british accent despite being American. Speaking too early will ruin your speech forever and nobody will ever understand a word you say.

>>19649589
good post

>>19649589
kids easily acquire native accents in L2s so it's different for them

>>19649594
Thanks but seriously I do have an indistinguishable accent and according to my parents I starting speaking a few months before doctors said I was suppose to.

The real meme I'm trying to make though is that having an accent doesn't mean your Japanese is tainted, it means you have an accent. It's not the end of the fucking world, most people enjoy listening to accents anyway.

>>19649608
I think you misread my post.

>>19649611
and some people don't want an accent

>>19649611
yeah but matt disciples have this delusion where they think if they master their accent that japanese people will accept them as a japanese person (this will not happen)

>>19649626
perhaps not but they would still be king of the gaijin

>>19649624
That's too fucking bad because unless you want to learn 47 dialects you're going to have an "accent" to someone.

>>19649638
a foreign* accent then
numpty

well idk about his fans but matt is pretty adamant nowadays in saying that the japanese will never accept you as a foreigner and his fans are probably aware of this because it's one of his biggest regrets in learning japanese.

Here's your "Remembering the Kana", now do it and stop wasting your time.

>>19649633
yeah i think it's cool to have a really good accent but these people are fucked up where they can't even say simple god damn words after a year of 24/7 immersion. i somehow doubt they will get this god-tier accent if they never actually start to speak. you still need to build muscle memory for pronouncing things correctly. you still need to hear yourself speak and figure out your weak points. you don't just magically start to have a good accent after listening for long enough

>>19649644
watch that 3 hour video if you can because im pretty sure i remember him saying somewhere how he wants to live in japan and be accepted as a japanese

>>19649626
This is true for just about any country that isn't the USA.

>>19649666
oh yea then he's delusional. poor guy needs to heed matt's warnings.

>>19649402
lol no he doesnt unless the 1 lingo steve speaking in nihongo clip i saw was some kind of outlier

matt legit sounds like a half retarded creep so what if he can rehearse to sound more japanese like theres constantly issues where his true nature shines through

he really shoulda did a better job on his 2 videos out of however many where he pretends to speak japanese

>>19649666
>watch that 3 hour video if you can because im pretty sure i remember him saying somewhere how he wants to live in japan and be accepted as a japanese>>

I'm sorry for anyone who would waste 3 hours just to hear him say that.

<span style="font-size: 40px; ">{{furigana:Reading}}</span>
No matter what size I choose the kanji looks like shit in the sentence, as if I'm using bold text or something. Any way to make it thinner?

>>19649680
install gentoo

>>19649680
it is using a bold text. you need to override the font-weight to 100 for that field. look it up

>>19649672
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xsXlQKzeR80
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vrAyDf7jzdw

steven sounds like he's imitating an imitation of japanese. matt sounds like he's imitating japanese. steve speaks more proper matt sounds like a little gaki

>>19649702
Steve has said time and time again that when he first returns to a language after not using it for awhile he's rusty as a 100 year old butter knife.

>>19649702
You can literally see Matt's eyes reading off a script what the fuck

How do I stop anki from sending failed reviews to next day when I fail them 10 minutes before next day?

>>19649748
that's probably why he stumbles and stutters so much

>>19649748
the paranoia and double standards are incredible

oh fuck did you see steve's eyes he's literally reading off a script bro

>>19649755
Stop using anki and read instead

>>19649759
Steve's eyes are pretty fixed and don't scroll from left to right like Matt's do constantly.

>>19649759
i don't really care if he's reading off a script or not. i don't doubt his ability, it doesn't even matter to me because i'm not matt and i don't pay for his patreon. but it would be funny if he was reading off a script

>>19649702
Man I'm retarded, it was indeed bold. Never paid attention to that on my old PC

>>19649764
But I can't retain words without anki

>>19649781
because steve has the script farther away behind the monitor on his wall so his eyes barely move, that fucking liar! he probably bullshited his way through japan as a diplomat for all those years.
>>19649783
true

>>19649783
I don't care either, it doesn't say anything about """his""" method, it's just top notch hilarious that he appears to be reading off a script.

But hey maybe he just has a script to remember what he wanted to say, that's a possibility.

yeah steve sounds properly genki in that one but he very clearly has better grasp on the language regardless

like even though his accent is what it is he talks right so when im listening nothing really gets lost

matt just sounds like retard white noise that occasionally sounds a little more japanese like at times but hes way more inconsistent than steve is at talking in his own [retarded] way

which is really cute because he rehearsed!!!

>>19649797
>matt just sounds like retard white noise
Oh shit, just like actual Japanese people. Matt's accent is perfect!!! Input worked!

>>19649702
To be fair to Matt, that video is from 18 months ago and he's been working on his speech and pitch accent since then, so he's probably a lot better.

do you people seriously think that people don't read off scripts lmao

<- matt hater

Daily Matt Thread. Actually we were doing pretty well with the minimal Matt discussions for awhile.

>>19649815
Benny doesn't!

i dont think steve did and he talked for fuckin 10 mins and it really wasnt until the 9th minute that he started to lose himself a bit

>>19649825
we were only doing well because i was shitposting and arguing about other topics with the force of a thousand suns

>>19649813
i don't really care because i'm not his friend and he doesn't post stuff on youtube anymore anyways. i don't listen to his advice anyways (i follow khatz ajatt advice) i just like his videos about qolibri and ipad reading apps and 3 hour ajatt journey (for which i am thankful, thanks matt) but he really went downhill after trying to make money off it (just like khatz)

>>19649825
there was some legit angst some hours ago you should go check it out it was pretty aids looking

>>19648323
これだけじゃ答えられない。
横軸,縦軸の数字でヒント文があるはずだ。

例:
縦軸10「後先を考えない行動」ans.大胆不敵

アニメが悪い

すいません
ｔ．アニメ

i mean fuck what would you do dude like do you want him to wear a blindfold because if not anywhere he ever looks you can accuse him of reading a script, which he probably does (at least notes), matt is still pretty good so it's not as offensive when brMatt is literally seen scanning through his notes on his retarded video

>>19649924
すいまへん
t. 半沢直樹

>lol Japanese is EZ, the Kanji are the only problem.

It's the exact opposite for me.
Give it to me straight, am I fucking retarded?

>>19649297
I stopped doing Core on this card.

>>19649934
No, the people in that image are all in the middle of genki 1 and haven't actually interacted with the real language yet.

>>19649934
kanji ain't the problem, kango is.

>>19649934
these people probably memorize conjugations in genki so they can output pointless stupid greetings in japanese or something, and they hold themselves to far lower standards than you. keep reading and listening and you will get there. don't worry about it man you can do this.

>>19649934
if you're retarded i'm retarded too
grammar will always be more difficult than rote memorization of fucking pictures

i'd sooner pass kanken pre 1 than actually understand what i can read aloud

>tfw I literally just come here for the Matt drama

>>19649932
>season 2 never

>>19649666
>he wants to live in japan and be accepted as a japanese
Why do Amerifats always think like this? I wouldn't consider any foreigner native in my country either even if they spoke the language perfectly. It's common sense.

What school will let me reach N2 in one year with a part time job?

My budget right now is 1,000,000 Japanese Yen, so I can only afford the tuition fee for a year. I also need to work part-time, to be able to support myself in terms of accommodation and living expenses, since I haven't saved up for those.

I have self-studied Japanese up till now - doing Genki I and II on my own and plan on moving to Tobira afterwards. I am also using WaniKani to cover kanji, so by next year, I should have reached N3 or a little higher and that's when I plan on applying to Japanese Language schools.

What schools are suitable for me? I want to work in Japan after that, so I need a Japanese language school (preferably in Tokyo) that would take me to JLPT N2 in terms of speaking ability as well.

I've researched a lot of language schools but I am still lost and thought I'd seek advice here.