/jp/ - Otaku Culture

> I want to make the first western visual novel.
xD

>The more it goes to 3D, the more happier the character becomes, eventually ending with the main character blossoming into a better person.
Fuck you, I don't want to play this shit

2D end is the best end.

>I want to make the first western visual novel

I have bad news for you.

Interesting concept, but it'll never work.

Actually, I really like the 2D/3D meter idea. It would make for some fun ends. Especially the bonus end where a 2D girl comes out of the game and hooks up with the main character.

This shit will never work

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>>1918824

Western visual novels? There aren't any!

>>1918828
::all of /jp/ suicides out of sadness::

Make an interactive h-game where you have sex with I AM BOSS instead.

Currently reading script.
You shouldn't switch from the "I" point of view to the "You" point of view. Even if the character is thinking to himself..it's probably not such a good idea.

Either have it from a first person point of view, or a 2nd person point of view...its weird with both.

You should have one of the mid 2D/3D ends where the protagonist goes crazy and rapes some random little girl.

>Also, during the game you'll have to mange your 2D/3D Meter, making certain decisions tips it more towards one option than the next. The more it gets into 2D the game and the characters in it begin to take on a more anime like appearance, eventually ending with the main character either killing himself or losing himself in a fantasy world for the rest of his days. The more it goes to 3D, the more happier the character becomes, eventually ending with the main character blossoming into a better person.

FUCK YOU ASSHOLE.

We care about the goddamn 2D, not the 3D. So if you make a shitty game like this, to cater our "needs", at least DO IT RIGHT FAGGOT

>>1918855
pretty much sums up what /jp/ would think about it...

/jp/ is a very delicate place where we come to reject society. You probably can't just come in here, release a game, and make us want to get back into it.

At the end of Densha Otoko (movie, idk about drama), the 3 guys leave the manga cafe and go out into the world. The hikki leaves his room. These things don't happen in /jp/. That's a fictional movie.

>>1918855
Did you have a problem with the Yume Nikki ending?

> The more it gets into 2D the game and the characters in it begin to take on a more anime like appearance, eventually ending with the main character either marrying his waifu or becoming king of a fantasy world and living happily for the rest of his days. The more it goes to 3D, the more disillusioned the character becomes, eventually ending with the main character killing himself or going on a stabbing spree.
Fixed for reality.

OP is a low level fag who barely understands the VN style.

>Also, during the game you'll have to mange your 2D/3D Meter, making certain decisions tips it more towards one option than the next. The more it gets into 2D the game and the characters in it begin to take on a more anime like appearance, eventually ending with the main character either killing himself or losing himself in a fantasy world for the rest of his days. The more it goes to 3D, the more happier the character becomes, eventually ending with the main character blossoming into a better person.

That actually sounds like an awesome game mechanic. But you need to make the 3D part have its downsides. Change it from a 2D-3D axis to a 2D-3D-4D axis, where if you head too much toward the non-2D side you start getting horrific visions and ph'nglui mglw'nafh Cthugha Fomalhaut n'gha-ghaa naf'lthagn

>>1918834

Cough cough

>>1918877
Thanks bro, I wouldn't have figured out the joke without you.

>>1918880

Dont mention it

>>1918866
>The more it goes to 3D, the more disillusioned the character becomes, eventually ending with the main character killing himself or going on a stabbing spree.

I would play this.

>I want to make the first western visual novel

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

Okay, killing yourself is just one of the potential 2D endings. I have been planning a particular route where you buy a figure and you become obsessed with it, with the game ending with a dream of you marrying the figure. Not every 2D ending is going to be bad, some will be funny. It all depends on what you, as the player, wants. I don't want to penalize anyone based on a play style.

I've also written another short story using the same character where, in a fit of rage and dementia, he goes out and tries to rape a girl. The girl fends him off, and he decides to go and apologize to her the next day, wherein she calls the cops and has him thrown in jail.

GTFO and leave the VNs to japan

>Hello /jp/, I want to make the first western visual novel.
http://lemmasoft.renai.us/forums/viewforum.php?f=11

Beware, they are all total shit.

http://www.renpy.org/wiki/renpy/Home_Page
>There have been more than 120 games made with Ren'Py.

So, at which part of the story does the main character get a Di-Sword?

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>>1918901

Nice fanart you got there.

There are no Western visual novels.

>>1918903
They are called text adventures.

>>1918875

>Densha Otoko

Is this good?

>>1918902
Right after the loli ero scene.

>>1918903
I'd believe you if you took Mugen's cock out of your mouth.

>>1918910
I thought it was relatively decent. I haven't read the original posts yet (although I have the book...I just haven't gotten around to it)

I'm pretty easygoing when it comes to entertainment though, so I thought it was a pretty decent film. A fun watch (but it gets a bit long)

>>1918897
You are retarded.
>>1918818
OP, don't use Ren'Py or Blade, they're extremely restricting.
Flash is good script wise, but extremely tedious, and you'll find tat the file size gets out of control quickly.
Try this,
http://forums.novelnews.net/showthread.php?p=60396
Tell me if you can install it, there is a bug or something, but it's worked for some people.

AMERICANS CAN NEVER MAKE GOOD VN

THEY WILL ALWAYS BE INFERIOR TO MY SUPA KAWAII JAPANESE VN

DATH TO KOREA, STUPID AMERICAN

>>1918903
You mean there are no GOOD Western visual novels.

attn: /jp/

make better threads

that is all

>>1918963
I don't have that much computer saavy. About the best I could do would be to write the script and lay out the basic mechanics and such. But all the programming and art would be out of my league.

I'll work on making a character list this weekend. Maybe postulate on some possible endings and write up description of the characters and hope that some benevolent drawfag would be flattered enough to illustrate them.

>>1918920

It is in English or with subtitles right?

If yes, where can I get it? Torrent, RS, MU, etc...

>The more it goes to 3D, the more happier the character becomes, eventually ending with the main character blossoming into a better person

You best be trollin nigga.

>>1919005

The whole drama is on The Pirate Bay, not sure about the movie.

>>1918993
I guess if you're not too computer savvy,
consider viewing,
http://www.lemmasoft.net/renai_dev/comparison.htm
Ren'Py is easy to learn, but as I said before, limiting.
If you need some drawfags, I might be able to help later on once you get this together more.
I'll post examples later.

The only good western VN I've ever played was Anon's Nice Day.

>The more it gets into 2D the game and the characters in it begin to take on a more anime like appearance, eventually ending with the main character either killing himself or losing himself in a fantasy world for the rest of his days.

Sounds like you'll need a pretty decent artist to show that shift. And yeah, the constant moving between first and second person is awkward. I'd say keep it in first; easier to get into the mind of the protagonist that way.

>>1919051
Psh, it's a badly written rushed piece of shit.

>>1919051
True. And it isn't even made yet.

>>1918963
Ren'Py isn't "limiting," it can do anything most commercial VN engines can do, and anything else through Python.

'nuff said

>>1918963
You are not seriously recommending an engine based on ONScripter as being less limiting than Ren'Py. That pretty much negates anything that you were saying right there, and proves that you no idea whatsoever what you are talking about.

>>1919098
Okay, how do you make the text window take up most of the screen (FSN style) in Ren'Py ( I haven't used it much)
.
And have you tried ONScripter or ONSlaught?

>>1919123
create a character with "kind=nvl"

A team of American /jp/fags should get together and make our own VN.

..Oh wait, we all hate each other.

>>1919116
>OH SHIT! A VISUAL NOVEL EXPERT SIGHTED.
My apologies, Anon, I used the wrong words. I haven't used Ren'Py too much, but from my expirience as a beginner (little), I found it to be limited. I'm sure there's a lot more you can do with it, but OP doesn't seem much about the various engines. I found ONScripter to be easy to learn and easy to get good at quickly- Ren'py is more difficult imo.
I dare you to make a case for Blade though.
I dare you.
underageb&? "negates everything" seems kind of 13 year old extremist. Don't you think, Bladefag?

>>I want to make the first western visual novel

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The amount of butthurt in this thread is overwhelming.

kirikiri > *

Dear OP,
Please ignore the trolls. This sounds like an interesting and new concept for a VN and I for one would be more than happy to play it.

>>1919116
Say that to my fucking face, not online, and see what happens.

You remain in bed for hours, resting the best ride you've had in your life, and thinking what are you going to do now. Anytime now, the feds will come pounding the door. You look for your sister. She's outside, doing who knows what. You get worried. After passing all day nervous, you hear her arrive. You confront her in her room. She tells you must do whatever she says, or else. She dangles the cellphone, with the photo of her practically raping you, in front of you.
This is your chance.

> Grab the cellphone >>1919153
> Agree to be her slave >>1919173

WHAT ABOUT MY VN IDEA

OP, you are trolling us ever-so-indirectly, fuck you.

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>>1919158

Sorry, but recommending a seriously limited engine (hell the thing is 10 years old without any real update) as being "less limiting" and then trying to excuse yourself by saying that it's "more accessible" (which is pretty much the opposite is just fucking stupid, sorry.

>>1919206

kirikiri is fine (not great, about as good as renpy), but enjoy your lack of documentation in English, inability to run in dev mode without applocale and most importantly, the inability to wordwrap properly without insani's really horrible script preprocessor.

From the character list:

Main Character(MC): The main character has no appearance or any name. Bluntly, you are the main character. MC is a neurotic American otaku who has spends his days watching anime and playing erotic games and fantasizing about fictional women. His dominant traits are paranoia and self-loathing, but where these traits take him is up to the player. His ultimate goal, and the goal of the game itself, is self acceptance and happiness. How he accomplishes this goal is up to the player. At the beginning of the game MC is given the task of translating the fictional visual novel “Blissful Reverie”, but this comes at a vital time in his life, where the future becomes a prominent threat to him. His distortion of reality plays a major role in the game as well, as he often retreats into the realm of 2D to escape pain and worry. In his subconscious exists the “Four Wives”, women from anime and games that MC has fallen in love with, and who exercise influence over him. Satisfying, and rebelling against, the Four Wives will influence the flow of the game.

This is everything I wanted Chaos;head to be. Please for the love of god, don't fuck this up.

>>1919227
At least it's opensource, so the possibility of a proper wordwrap is always open. But the lack of documentation really sucks.

I laughed.

A lot.

>>1919231
>neurotic
>His dominant traits are paranoia and self-loathing
Not a very accurate description of the average /jp/sy, most of us are beyond that.

lol, fags, this is never going to happen

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>>1919227
Ever heard of ONSlaught?
Not quite an update, but an new version of the software that supports unicode.
Besides, there are plenty of builds being released.
http://dev.haeleth.net/onscripter.shtml
You
a) have very strong opinions and can't express them without being obnoxious as hell.
b) are a good troll, 10/10
I'm under the impression you've never used ONScripter.
Go look at the games made with ONscripter
now compare them to...say...
http://wings.animerd2k2.net/
.

Am I the only who knows this shit will NEVER come to life?

Seriously, ANY VN started on /jp/ has failed miserably except Katawa Shoujo since it was started on /a/).

>>1919289

I don't think there were any. I mean, people post some ideas and sketches and that's it, no one takes it seriously.

It's never like the first KS thread.

>>1919176
This man knows his shit.

>>1919231
Working on an idea sketch.
Neckbeard?
Overweight?
Glasses?
Negro?

>>1919311
Just have him never appear on camera, like most VN heros.

>>1919285
I have as much experience with ONScripter as anyone outside mirror moon or insani has. And it's a piece of shit. Even if ONSlaught (which I don't know much about) removes its bugs, inability to work correctly with any language that is not Japanese without annoying hacks, and overall fragility, it still inherits its awfully limited scripting language. Enjoy your fixed three sprite positions and not being able to write macros.

Not to mention that great games were being made with it (10 years ago, lol) mean nothing. By that measure, nobody would ever need to use anything but SCUMM or the Z-Machine.

Read it, this is a terrible, terrible idea.

>>1919330
Not >>1919285 here,
Does Ren'Py support flash documents (.swf)?

It's been done before. And better.

Very clever troll is very clever. You had me going until the last paragraph. 10/10, would definitely RAAAGE again.

>>1919355
No. But why would you do that? If you want Flash, Flash itself is a pretty good platform to begin with.

Here, have some more:

Lou: Lou is MC’s best and oldest friend. He is reckless and charismatic and handsome and quite confident in himself. Were it not for previous knowledge, one would never guess that he was a fan of anime. He is often the only person that can convince MC to leave his apartment, and usually the only person MC will leave the house with. He worries about MC and often inquires about how he’s feeling. Lou is a closet Japanese idol fan and has a weakness for moe. He is a dedicated friend of MC, willing to stay friends with him until he absolutely can’t anymore.

>>1919369
i'm kind of a lou

Tamara: Tamara is a cosplayer and a con slut. She is fairly unattractive and quite melodramatic. MC became acquainted with her through the convention circuit, and at one point both pursued a very brief and violently dysfunctional relationship. Tamara is self centered and egotistical, and prone to bragging in order to make others feel inferior, and doesn’t mind speaking openly of her half fabricated sex life. Like any reliable ex-girlfriend, she faithfully haunts MC. She secretly just wants MC to notice her again, because she feels lonely without him. She has a dependent personality and is very clingy towards those who give her any sort of kindness.

Elle: Elle is a sixteen year old high school student. Her mischievous and sarcastic mind surpasses her age and she can be quite conniving and clever with her wit being rivaled only by her own cruel intentions. She is quite attractive and uses her looks to persuade others. Her and MC first meet at a club that, provided the player has fulfilled the prerequisites, he forced himself to go to. The two get drunk and MC ends up sleeping with her, unaware of her age. Elle sees a kind of cute novelty in MC and is intrigued by him.

>>1919378
you mean that wasn't the beginning of the novel?

>>1919387
Would it be a good start?

>>1919396

I think hitting the player with "YOU'RE A STATUTORY RAPIST" right out of the gate might be pretty effective.

>>1919408
When you put it that way, it sounds really awesome. That's going to be how the first day ends.

Make a female character who's wholesome(with her name starting with an L) and both their parents are friends, but he's afraid of committing himself to her due to all the other available women in the world.

Worst thread ever

Dion: Dion is a quiet and effeminate painter who lives next door to MC. He speaks very little, but always greets MC whenever he sees him. He is very awkward and prone to rambling on about certain subjects when in a prolonged conversation and gives unnecessary apologies. MC becomes more acquainted with him after being stuck in an elevator with him. Possible homolust character.

Is Dion too flamboyant a name? I'm really bad with names.

Fuu Lai Ren: Fuu Lai Ren is the excessively buxom and extravagantly sexualized vampire hunting heroine of a series of fictional erotic games that include Fuu Lai Ren And The Fortress Of Penetration, Fuu Lai Ren And The Virgin’s Curse, and Fuu Lai Ren Vs. The Raping Depths. She is one of the Four Wives that exist within MC’s subconscious. Her personality is very hedonistic and hot blooded and she often urges MC to acquiesce to what she wants him to believe are his true desires. She was the first 2D character MC ever masturbated to. She represents his libido.

Fuu Lai Ren is such a shitty name, it sounds like something out of a badly translated kung fu movie, but I'm not good with names

Having used ONscripter for a project myself, I have to tell you it's just a pain in the ass to use. You might feel more "doujin" but you're better off using Ren'py just because there's more support available for it.

So... when's KS coming out, guys?

>>1921202
no use the nitro+ engine I dare you!

will there be an ending depending on if you keep it balanced?

like if you keep it 50/50, will he just end up not changing any from how it began?

>>1918818
Make it four endings: Bad 2D, Good 2D, Bad 3D and Good 3D.

Scrap that; make it five by adding another hard-to-get secret ending.

Make the VN short or you won't be motivated to see it to the end.

I mean it!!

>>1921284

This. Find out everything you want to do first and then do less then a third of that. Add the rest in later when the project doesn't crush your very soul.

Why the fuck is this thread still alive?

Since so many of you seem to have made or have have interest in making eroge, let's see some of your artwork.

>>1921271
Or even better, code your own engine!

OP, stop worrying about the programming side of it. Just write a good story first. If your story is good there will be plenty of anonymous welling to code it for you, ala Anon's Nice Day.

Seriously, there are plenty of people here who can code, there are like 2 people who can write (AoC is probably one of them) and there are none who can draw.

>>1921369

>Anon's Nice Day

lol. That's a good one.

>>1921269
This year.

OP here, bumpan for my own self indulgence:

The original length of the game was projected to be one year, but considering the fact that the rough draft of the first day alone is close to 10 pages, I'll have to aim lower, possibly around 30 or 20 in game days.

Ideally there will be six endings: 2D Good, 2D Bad, 3D Good, 3D Bad, neutral, and one secret ending that I'm not even sure will be. In addition to four anime waifus to date, there will also be 4 women, all of which can be raped, and a homolust path.

Right now the first day is in the editing process and I'm drawing up a tentative flowchart for the game. Expect some updates later.

>>1922981
Most VNs that cover every day in detail are at most two weeks long.