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>New? Start here:
http://pastebin.com/vmW2qYkD

>Mods:
http://pastebin.com/HcTtYVsn

>E+ Changelogs:
http://elona.wikia.com/wiki/Changelog_%28Elona%2B%29

>Elona Custom Release Thread:
http://elona.wikia.com/wiki/Thread:25014

>Previous Thread
>>19041304


Current Version: Elona+ 1.77 (30/04/2018)
Latest Custom: E+C 1.77.1

Errors? Set the compatibility of the .exe to WINDOWS 7.

Pay your respects to OP collages. RIP.

>> No.19083141

>>19080925
I have no issues with it.
Most of the time it happens due to incorrect image format of the sprite or game file corruption. Try fresh install first, just copy /save/ folder.

>> No.19083142

>>19080803
1. Are you sure you don't actually have fake, worthless gold bars on you?
2. Main Quest related items are recorded in your journal. Probably so you don't accidentally lose them.

>> No.19083435
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What does this mean again?

>> No.19083443

>>19083435
She levelled up

>> No.19083456

>>19083443
Oh, I feel dumb now for not realising something so obvious.

>> No.19083561

Liches are really starting to piss me off. I can handle everything else around the level range but these assholes take me down in three hits.

>> No.19083565

>>19083141
just did it and still crashes. thanks for trying to help anyway

>> No.19083574

>>19083561
get dark and ice resistance

>> No.19084583

>>19083561
Kill them faster.

>> No.19085989

what happened to hat op anon who put hats on everything

>> No.19086098

>>19083561
Carry a rod of silence.

>> No.19086184

>>19083142
I have some of those fake bars as well along with real ones.
A bio battery is not main quest related, is it?

A question, how many soul spindles can you use to let your heir inherit pets?

>> No.19086458

>>19086184
The bio battery preserves your height and weight. It's not quest-related, but it's pretty rare.

You can inherit as many soul spindles as possible. The limiting factor is the number of pets you can export in a map at once.

>> No.19086502

>>19085989
One (1) anon didn't like his ops and that was that.
I guess he also needed a break, though.

>> No.19086550

>>19086502
thats gay. i liked those. they were the best
also, new char after years not playing. took scientist quest. immediately bumrushed and 1 shot by a werewolf in the next outdoor area. only items i dropped were the monster balls. guess im not gonna be getting breakfest for a while

>> No.19086581

please tell me there's a way to play on an Android mobile

>> No.19086586

>>19086581
Yeah, teamviewer or any similar app.

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>>19083095

OP need some help
So I never heard about this game then I decided to give it a try.
I made this warmage, he is lvl 14. But, after failing lots of quests ie. harvesting and not paying any bills until now my Karma is currently at -85.
I read on Wikia that Noyel is a good place to buy indulgence. I don't know its price since there isn't any source of it on the internets.
Guards in noyel still persist to rape my ass tho. My life is a nightmare

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>>19086629

i'm op, so how much is it?

>> No.19086663

>>19086629
14 is still early in and having low enough karma to be attacked by guards makes early game a misery
just start over and pay your bills this time
also don't die and don't do quests if you're not sure you can complete them
alternatively marry your pet and make a gene so you can start over as the kid of your character

>> No.19086687

>>19086663

man, I know you would say that. forgot to mention that my cave is full with cargo. almost 500k I want to kill myself right now :(
Does console have any commands to set karma? i'm on linux so leonasnak (cheat) doesnt work

>> No.19086724

>>19086687
>>19086629
If you absolutely need to keep this character, live in derphy and do tons of jobs until you get enough money to pay for redemption and your taxes.

You can try to enter Noyel from the east and dig through the walls of the cathedral to avoid guards, also.

>> No.19086788

>>19086687
If you find a disguise kit you may be able to use that to get you past the guards. Similarly for scrolls of incognito. You can even use these to turn in lost suitcases/wallets, but there is a limit to how many you can turn in a month I believe.
You can also use incognito to visit the place you pay your bills so you don't lose further karma for missing your bills. You could also buy a tax box from Miral and Garok's workshop, so you can pay your bills from home.
Lastly, there's the fallen hero event, where you can bury them for +5 karma, which are common enough events.

>> No.19086849

>>19086629
Just screw the damned indulgence already, it is way too costly to be worth the effort EVER. She will ask you for several millions, and will remove a mere half of negative karma.

Use other methods of atonement. They listed on karma page on wiki. Bury dead adventurers (common event), use disguise kits and turn in any wallets/suitcases you find.

And, since you are a criminal already - join thieves guild. You will get easy access to disguise kits (thief tools vendor) and fence will buy stolen goods for their full price. Teleport him (and other bustanders, if any) away, loot the vault and sell everything back to him. Paintings are quite valuable.

>> No.19087038

Any reliable way to make Zeome or any mage blow themselves up by confusion or lack of mana?

can you beat the game by fucking/seducing enemies?

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Hahahahahah

>> No.19087651

Meshera alpha or Renai the over meshera? which is better to astral pen?

>> No.19087707

>>19087651
Renai is cuter

>> No.19088054

Are extra melee attacks the main damage boost for multiple hand mutants, what about crits? If you can get 16 crits in a turn that's gotta be pretty good too?
Can extra attacks crit too?

>> No.19088111

>>19088054
Extra attacks may crit, but crit chance decreases with each additional attack.

>> No.19088349
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>Start having vivid dreams about living with meshera alpha (more humanlike) in yowyn and having a happy family with her

i am calling it quits,this game is now giving me the only happiness in my life

>> No.19088394

>>19088349
Meshera alpha isn't even cute.

>> No.19088417

>>19088349
How is it even possible for someone to become so degenerate?
Maybe stop playing 120 hours of Elona per week, that should help.

>> No.19088476
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What fresh fucking hell is this?

>>19087038
Depends, considering that high charisma means you can have more pets, would you count pet kills for this? I think there is also an tweak to enable npcs taking damage while vomiting at starving, so cursed alcohol becomes useful again. There is also the Sexy Dance and Bewitch actions but I'm not sure how much usefulness they have in combat.
As a last resort, you could just become needlessly proficient in slinging panties at things.

>> No.19088521

>level 18
>have a ranch for putits and the weird snail thing that produces shades
>managed to find a 10d5 assault rifle somehow to use as a gunner character
>have stolen fucktons of books from shelters to read
>have farm but don't know what to focus on growing

How do I proceed from here? I really want to get to capable of killing and looting gods status ASAP

>> No.19088707

>>19088521
>farm>
gems = money
artifacts = gear
magic = wish rods when harvesting in autmn
veggies/fruits = food, can sell in shop, use as a base for herb'in food when possible
herbs = stats, plant all herb seeds you get, build more farms if needed. they are the lifeblood for character growth

>ranch
switch to fairies for kumiromi treasures to max out feats, or rabbits for luck farming.
alternatives: hermit crabs for stardust, indigo lobster or other extremely heavy creature for expensive corpses, cook and sell eggs.
>focus
AP farming in void as deep as you can manage, saving little sisters to get copies of kumiromi statue for herb seeds
Convert AP to speed and whatever else you need
herbs
more herbs
keep fame high to farm plat from job board
get super lure to fish&cook whales with most expensive lure, even with low level skill.

>> No.19088708

>>19088349
>living with meshera alpha and having a happy family with her
That is pretty cute.
>in yowyn
But that is horrifying, these monsters will probably try to turn your wife into a hamburger.

>> No.19089310

>>19088708
Its okay,she regenerates lost limbs pretty quick

>> No.19089727

>>19088707
How do I get more herb seeds? Is spamming harvest quests/the correct god the only way?

>> No.19089735

>>19089727
South Tyris. Kumiromi statue. Duplicate with Little Sister quest.

>> No.19089760

>>19089727
Kumiromi statues are great, but getting a few Kumiromi gemstones allows you to revive all the dead plants which saves you some seeds, and after you get an item in act 3 which gives you 100% regrowth chance you'll never lose any plants again so you can just expand.

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How do you guys increase your life? Is hero cheese and rubynus the only way?

>> No.19089909

What's the first big-purchase I should make?
Ranches/farms sound pretty useful and I've got a bunch of monsterballs I could use for the ranch, and a shitload of seeds from harvesting quests I could be using.

>> No.19089934

>>19089774
Eating little sister corpses can increase your life, but killing them makes Big Daddies rarer.

>> No.19090134

>>19089909
A museum would be nice

>> No.19090253

>>19085989
He said something about going abroad and wrestling boars

>> No.19090260
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Holy fuck i hate mages so much with their teleporting and kiting shit

>> No.19090265

What happened with Noa's next game Elin? I remember hearing that he was planning on having an alpha version out by Jan 2018, but his blog seems dead

>> No.19090276

Giving a weapon with timestop to my pet was a mistake. There's nothing as painful as seeing your pet eat a bunny's tail right next to you and not being able to do anything about it.

>> No.19090307

>>19090260
Get some silence potions/spells, try to get alchemical rain.

>>19090265
Apparently the guy that was working on Elin's art/graphics died, so the project is on development hell now. I think Noa is working on a "simpler" game now, that island survival game.

>> No.19090333

>Play golen
>Grass dancer on hunting quest
>dances around my ass and kills me before i can react

that was so unfair,he is faster than fucking karata

>> No.19091433

>>19088707
getting super lure is completely random though

>> No.19091445

>>19087038
Magic eye (special action) now inflicts MP drain that gets stronger with your magic stat

>> No.19091460

So I came back to this recently after a year, two, maybe three not playing. Mostly been going fine. But I'm having trouble remembering the name and source of a few items I liked:

>A ball or gem or something that let me use my gauge to transform. I used it on my mutant because it entirely nullified the speed loss, but I remember there were several of these.
>An item that let me fuse the dead raised via the coffin. I only had access to one fusion, a boss, but it was like 70 levels above me and allowed me to trash things way above what I should be able to for good loot
>An item that let me hurt myself. I know I had one. Its how I safely summoned the above

Any help on what these were would be appreciated. Pretty sure they're on the wiki, but I dunno the names to find them.

>> No.19091468

>>19091460
shift cores
necromantis
harakiri?

>> No.19091492

>>19091468
Top 2 are right. Third isn't since I remember it was a gradual thing similar to carrying too much stuff. But top 2 are the main ones anyways, thank you

>> No.19091629

So how do I get it so I can cast hero and similar spells when my chance to fail is >100%. Leveling via the mage trainer doesn't give casting exp. Neither does failing. I want my buffs/heals at 50.

>> No.19091635

>>19091629
How much is your weight?
Is your arms empty?

>> No.19091641

>>19091629
unequip your shield
light armor
start out by casting shitty spells like light cure wounds/hero/magic dart and keep casting said shitty spells until you can cast less shitty spells
alternatively just start out as a warmage because a straight up +5% to casting chance is fucking crazy

>> No.19091857

What is Nefia?

>> No.19091989

>>19091857
It’s a term both for the random dungeons that show up all over the place, as well as the civilization that created them.

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Mia is the strongest nyo!

>> No.19092382
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Who is your constant waifu/husband/pet on most playthoughts?

It is safe to fuck ehekatl?

>> No.19092396

>>19092382
This current playthrough is the first one outside of my very first character to use pets for anything other than breakfast, since my pet basically ruined my first playthrough by instantly killing so much before I got to do anything. For breakfest I've just used whatever I found that had cooking.
This run I'm trying to teach my little girl some basic buff stuff.

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>>19092382
>strong
>handsome
>miraculous healer, can even negate death with his healing spells
>powerful tank, can absolutely protect you from any harm
>a noble and loyal paladin at your service
>seriously handsome
I can't live without him anymore. I want Defender to princess carry me back to our happy bed after a long day of dungeon crawling so he can gently Lay Hands on my body and Absolute Protect me all night long!

>> No.19093301

>>19093196
W-what if its a girl instead? does he love opatos golden knight?

>> No.19093565

>>19093301
>>19093196
What if its a female defender in that case* and if its canon that Male Defender got a rivalry with golden knight

>> No.19094783

>>19092382
I got a Lich/Zombie Girl roleplay going on. It's pretty fun as a character background.

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>>19093301
>>19093565
This is getting very confusing and dangerously illegal. And keep that bodybuilding/weight-lifting weirdo away from my paladin!

>> No.19095027

>>19092382
Probably cupid of love for ranged damage and silence

>> No.19095043

>>19092382
The Little Girl you start with evolved into a Valkyrie

>> No.19095301

Are picnic baskets ultimately more effective than potential potions, or do potential potions still outmatch picnic baskets when it comes to repairing hopeless potential spreads?

>> No.19095412

They didn't even remotely compare on any of my characters who didn't use pets for anything beyond crap like making food. Probably compare better if you actually use pets. Pots were more accessible since I could just buy them in my base rather than collecting several ingrediants then fusing. Gave more potential. Could be stacked and blessed in large piles easily.

>> No.19095642

>>19095412
That's probably it, I have only a single merchant to get potential pots from, so at this rate it takes about a year to get pots to show up...if I'm lucky.

>> No.19095844

I've never been able to get more than 1 of that kind of merchant in my home on any character. The game absolutely refuses to put more in my selection for my home and I'm not going to go to town to get pots when my potentials are already at max any time I wanted them to be.
Still had enough pots of potential to do what I needed and more, as a solo player. They weren't nearly that rare for me but all my characters have been absolutely absurdly rich because of not having to get pets any gear and having the slots that normally are used for pets used on ranches and multiple shops. So there's a good chance my shops were much higher levels than yours.
Just keep at it and it'll all work out.

>> No.19095892

>>19095844
Did you try changing the merchants name? I got all 8 in one go, just change the name and go back to the house board and the same one will show up again.

>> No.19095899

>>19095892
Yea, that's what was rec'd when I first ran into the issue. I've also tried not recruiting anyone beyond the first mage and maid and refreshing until another shows up after changing name, no luck. Since I'm not a fan of pets its never really been an issue so much as an annoyance. This time I'm using one though so it could be an issue.

>> No.19096161

i want to fuck Kumi bp

>> No.19096549

>>19096161
What's stopping you?

>> No.19096648

>>19096549
My self preservation and cant go tail with the drunk gods

>> No.19097232
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Any other defender PCC floating around? I want to heal bitches and win while looking stylish

Also,would anyone be interested in a compilation of some PDF saved with some personal notes? i am the kind of paranoid fucker that saves webpages in PDF in case i gotta play without internet someday and need the information

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How does Jure feel that north tyris distributes pillows with her picture plastered in to get more followers?

>> No.19097280
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How do I find a living weapon gun at this stage?

I somehow found a living claymore and my little girl is wrecking shit with it, I really want my own succ weapon.

Also what should I be doing at this stage to keep powering up? I have a fuckton of herbs already

>> No.19097310

>>19097263
Despite Ehekatl being known for her aversion to modest clothing, Jure is the designated slut goddess.

>> No.19097345

>>19097310
Lulwy is literally naked

>> No.19097353

>>19097345
Yes but she’s already the goddess of BDSM.

>> No.19097396

>>19097280
Sometimes you can find living weapons on black market shops (investing helps), there is one in Kapul. I can't remember if they sell all types of guns, though.
The only other reliable option is crafting with pot of fusion, but that requires loads of stardusts, +40 levels or so on crafting skills (to craft ingredients), and loads of luck (like a lucky day or christmas cakes).
While fairly rare, you can find living weapons anywhere (I got a living scythe from a harvest quest in Yowyn with one of my character). Just keep playing normally.
For the "powering up" process, drink potential potions and eat herb-in food while doing your usual adventurer stuff. Work on quests for platinum coins as usual to improve your skills.

>> No.19097488

>>19097280
Adventurers (low chance), travelling merchants (good chance), black market (generally low chance without investment but requires less time investment and can be done alongside meeting travelling merchants), blue treasure machines (very good chance with high luck and a lot of 500 yen coins), and as the other anon said pot of fusion if you're willing to invest a lot of time into raising your crafting skills.

>> No.19097496

>>19097488
I recentl;y had al ucky day and blew everything on treasure machines, not a single living weapon. How do I farm more coins for the next lucky day?

>> No.19097508

>>19097496
You get em randomly from most resource spots in dungeons.

>> No.19097512

>>19097496
I just train my pet in dungeons during nefia fever, lots of gathering spots and better loot to be found in dungeons.

>> No.19097679

>>19097512
what's a nefia fever? id think its a new thing but i dont see it in changelog. unless its new but not new enough so id need to dive througha bunch until i see it

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>>19097679

>> No.19097695

>>19097686
my clock looked like that once. i actually meant to ask what it meant. didnt seem to do anything though
also, first wish thanks to pet drinking shit. anything cool been added to wish for in the last like 2-3 years or is it still 7 league>everything else?

>> No.19097726

>>19097695
Occurs randomly on the 15th day and after of each month which is not a multiple of three, and may last for a few days. Increases gathering spots, weapon level and identification, and some other random stuff like music tickets in dungeons. 7 league boots are a good first wish if you don't have any.

>> No.19098209

>>19097726
nifty. i picked goblin this time just because i remembered gathering material scrolls, blessing them and reading them being boring as hell last time

>> No.19098348

Holy fuck seriously screw that mountain pass that corrupts you with ether,that shit is annoying coupled with the strong enemies

I just dag a tunnel to the side and got to the end of each floor avoiding to fight,had to buy 3 corruption pots with my small medals

>> No.19098488

>>19098348
Just spam teleport. Every floor has the same layout.

>> No.19098568

>>19098348
Sounds like you're severely underleveled if you have to avoid fights and don't have a mountain of corruption potions.

>> No.19098578

>Was planning to make pet a buff bot
>All buffs and all but 1 healing spell are self-target only
well poo

>> No.19098711

>>19097280
I've always had much better luck getting living weapons from traveling merchants than anything else. Just make sure you examine every miracle and godly weapon and you'll get one eventually. Even if it's not a weapon type you want to specialize in they're still useful because you can load them up with a million element resistances.

>> No.19098723

>>19098578
Cheer (Hero and Speed) and Platinum Song (Holy Shield, Divine Wisdom and Feather) are party-wide buffs that pets can use.

>> No.19099094

So in the end,who was the main character? the player? the vanity hobo or the AP trainer?

>> No.19099101

>>19098723
Is it possible to teach plat song to anything except the goose the wiki says its from? Cheer according to the wiki only effects pets to, so since I'm just using the one pet, is no different to a self-casted buff.

>> No.19099126

>>19099094
Lomias

>> No.19099142

I miss the old collages already, they were fun to see when I pop in once in awhile.

>> No.19099231

>>19099101
Nope, because the player can't learn Platinum Song. Gotta get that greedy idol if you want it.
Cheer won't affect the caster, only the caster's allies (because the caster is just "cheering" for his/her allies). A pet using it will buff the player.

>> No.19099236

>>19098578
several evolutions have platinum song. frog is probably the best.
Mito can buff with gravity accel
Super armor and similar buffs are available to custom ai and buff whole party, as long as they have required armor weight class
defender\stacy for heavy tanking
vanquish hex via custom ai to dispel mist of silence
space retention on some mobs for speed boost
rampage for party-wide fury
synchro hearts crab
little girl's evolution that heals insane status
and the usual healing rain
a plethora of debuffs and status effects to apply on enemy

i probably forgot a few more support tools, but its a plenty as is already.

>> No.19099252

>>19099231
Neat. Guess I need to find a wish thingy for the trait so I can get cheer.

>>19099236
Also neat although its a shame it seems its not possible to make an all in one buffer pet since several are untransferable and unique to specific monsters.

thanks peoples

>> No.19099307

>>19099252
Well if you really insist you can hack custom ai via elosnack to make pet learn unique special actions.
Good to make some roleplay'ish builds, like dance actions, platinum song, cheer, synchro hearts, squeeze, magic kiss and prostitution for idol pet. Be creative. Game is too easy to care about breaking it, simply playing normally breaks it already.
You need to know action ID for this. source.hsp/wikia for further info.

>> No.19099443

Why are lightsabers regarded as the best sword weapon? their damage dice looks low as hell

what is the next heavy weapon i should get after Gaia hammer? i am currently at the end of Act2 with a +10 version of it.preferably blunt or sword weapon

>> No.19099487

>>19099443
Because 100% pierce. Although I've heard claymores can be/are better once you reach a certain point.

>> No.19099626

>>19099142
Some of them were cool and funny but they gave off too much of a /vg/ vibe sometimes which may attract those people to the thread or possibly make the redditors who come here after seeing this thread mentioned feel more at home. Every thread may be too much because it's not enough time to collect the material needed for a quality image. Every once in a while is good I think but forcing the guy to make one every time seems like it's too much.

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>>19099443
Pretty much as >>19099487 said. Completely ignoring DV naturally makes them better than most weapons by default. A claymore is arguably better for two handing though simply because they start heavier than the standard lightsaber, while lightsabers would be better for dual wielding since even the heaviest lightsabers are still pretty light. Most light weapons have low hit dice and struggle with high PV as well I assume, so the 100% pierce is a godsend.

>> No.19099673

>>19099658
What are you talking about? You can make any item any weight level in this game with flying scrolls.

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Choose one and only one

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>>19099689
Husband version

>> No.19099747

>>19099689
>height and wall
what does it mean

>> No.19099812

>>19089934
Holy shit, whats this game about?

>> No.19099830

>>19099689
Yes.

>> No.19099847

>>19099812
Becoming a singularity

>> No.19099852

>>19099812
The ends justify the means: The Game

>> No.19099869

>>19099658
Claymore are better if you have enough vorpal+ equipment because of the higher damage dice and the stronger pierce effect from vorpal.

>> No.19099942

Are living weapons still capped at level 15 after the 1.67/1.68 changes? Figuring out the monthly shifts with this latest version is awkward.

>>19097280
Man it makes me sorta sad that my PC is basically one level lower with half your stats.

>> No.19100036

>>19099673
in terms of weight, they'd be 'better' simply because their starting weight is higher, so, you'd start receiving better boosts from the weapons weight with fewer cursed scrolls of flying. Better simply from an expenditure of resources to reach an optimal weight was my presumption, not so much they can't ever be good for either fighting style. >>19099869 words have more weight than mine here.


>>19099689
I have a good bit of fondness for <Isca> the fallen angel, but Frisia's cute

>>19099696
Looking at this only reminds me, I haven't seen <Goda> for ages after starting to play Elona+. Did he get removed, or forgotten, somehow? I used to run into him all the time on new characters and get minced since he was like a kobold early on, but even worse.

>> No.19100075

>>19100036
Wait,doesnt the only requisite of being a heavy weapon is 4.0? and any weight after that doesnt matter for anythimg?

>> No.19100134

>>19100075
Matters for crit damage.

>> No.19100152

>>19100075
From what I recall, heavier weapons have greater bonuses from the two hand skill. I think I also saw somewhere that heavier weapons have stronger critical hits as well. Alternatively, there's a penalty for to-hit while two-handing a weapon while riding. The to hit penalty is more severe with heavier weapons, and two handing a weapon on foot instead of riding will always be better, even if your weapon is only 4.0s

>> No.19100510

>>19092382
Snail for hilarity!
It's a Nightmare at first and for a loooong time but, when you see that little guy start one shooting everything.
All the pain becomes worth it.

>> No.19100536

>>19092382
The top adventurer on the board

>> No.19100720

>>19099626
Can you keep this /leet posters only/ bullshit away from here.
Its a general about Elona, a video game, not about your retarded inter-board/communication platform wars, get your cheap ego boosts somewhere else.
That aside, its been always up to collage anon to decide how often its drawn. And its up to the rest of us to show appreciation of his work.

>>19100075
There is a paste about boosting weapon damage in last thread.

>>19100036
I'm getting <Goda> within first 2 months of every new save. It only spawns once per save outside of arena.

>> No.19100721

>>19099696
I didn't expect Eyth to be cute.

>> No.19100802

>>19099869
100% penetration is much better with vorpal unless you get retardedly high(4000+) vorpal procrate. You get quite a bit of flat damage from stats, so base weapon damage quickly becomes unimportant unless its something like a magnitude of inner god weapon.

>> No.19100830

>>19099696
Utima is female, not male

>> No.19100916

>>19100802
I know, that is why I said "enough [stuff]".
The value is quite crazy and certainly not easy to obtain at all, but theorycrafting is half of the fun.

>> No.19100988 [DELETED] 

>>19100720
>Its a general about Elona, a video game

I can apply your logic here to any thread on this website but it doesn't change what I said. You can parrot your secret club meme all you want but at the end of the day all it means is you don't care. The post was not intended to start a meta bitch fit. I was stating why myself and some others may not like the OP images because there are at least two of us. There is nothing elite about this piece of shit board by the way.

>And its up to the rest of us to show appreciation of his work.

You're a cuck. No one is entitled to any sort of praise.

>> No.19101198

Are OP collages gone for good? Did the anon die?

>> No.19101298

>>19101198
He's just retired, He's welcome to try making them again

>> No.19101566

Can't refute someone so just downvote them and get their post deleted. Nice.

>> No.19101732

>>19101566
Wrong site mate?

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>>19099689

>> No.19101927

>>19099942
Grind herbs. Not fun btw

>> No.19102039

So let me get this,the best dual setup is:

>Get two lightsabers miracle or godly quality
>change material to anything else so ether doesnt give you cancer
>Custom tailor them with the enchants you need via artifact fusion

thats right so far? is the diablos a good sword for the start or act2?

>> No.19102282

>>19102039
Use Adamantium instead of "anything".
Dual Wield's main feature is the extra attack bonus (up to 8 hits), so you should get weapons with good on-hit spells, like Time Stop. Living weapons are a option too, "clean" godly stuff isn't that easy to find and artifact fusion is a very slow process.
Diablos is pretty decent, and it will show you how Time Stop works.

>> No.19102334

How do i remove 'Ragnarok' from an artifact?

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>>19100036
>>19100720

So this is the 4th time that just one minotaur actually kills me. I'm lvl 17 mage and I tried everything to find out his weakness. Searched wikia without success.
>doing Lesimas
>trying to reach 16th floor.
How do I kill this guy?

>> No.19102423

The wiki says my offhand weapon cant be 1.5 weight or more else i get penalties unless my dual wield skill is high,what is considered high dual wield level?

>> No.19102515

>>19102334
You don't. Do a few dragons really bother you that much?

>>19102419
Grind more.

>> No.19102565

>>19102334
You can't remove weapon attributes.

>>19102419
Avoid their melee range with short teleport spell/scroll or dimensional move spac, don't fight them while suffering from heavy speed reduction effects. They are strong but they are just melee fighters.
Other than that, come back later when you are stronger.

>> No.19102570

>>19102419
same way you beat everything else in act one and almost every generic enemy in the game: spam sleep touch until it dies. they aint immune.

>> No.19102792

How do I set up special skills like gauge attacks or the defenders lay hand when using custom AI? They don't show up under actions, do pets just use them on their own even with custom AI enabled?

>> No.19103160

im a brainlet, when do i sleep for pet to do cooking? dusk, midnight, morning, none worked.

>> No.19103161

>>19102792
Yes, Lay Hand is an automatic effect (you or any ally on screen will be revived automatically, once per sleep), and pets will use the default gauge attacks on their next attack if the gauge bar is full. I don't know much about the other types of gauge-based attacks (like some Breath attacks and Shadow Rush), though.

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>>19102570

problem is I didn't choose the silent touch while
creating my cleric.
>btw guys
>>19102570
>>19102565
>>19102515
why the hell I can't take any side quests ie. hunting, beauty and beast. Every npc I talk to says to me my party is full BUT, the thing is, i'm solo, everyone is dead.
>Tried to restart the game and problem still persists. Idk how to make more money. I don't know what to do guys. help me out!

>> No.19103294

>>19103276
Dead still counts as in your party. Raise your charisma to increase party limit (max size 15) or get a discard ranch/leave them in the dojo.

>> No.19103377

How does vomiting work in modern Elona? It's really easy to inflict with bodyblow, but does it still do anything useful?

>> No.19103452

>>19103276
If you can't take hunting quests, your log is probably full. You can only have 5 active quests at once.

beauty/escort missions do require an open NPC slot (as well) and yes, dead NPCs still take up a slot. You can revive them at the pub, if you want. Then you can dismiss them.

>> No.19103534

>>19103160
Between 9 and 11 PM is reliable.

>> No.19103561

>>19103534
im a brainlet because i cant figure out when 9 pm is in game. it should be just before dusk if i go back to clock. but its not. that doesnt work.

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>>19103160
>>19103561
You want to go to sleep at precisely this hour. Any later and you can oversleep. Any earlier and there's a chance of waking up early.
Once you get a Mani alarm clock, you can go to sleep a bit later than this, since it prevents egregious oversleeping.

>> No.19103589

>>19103579
thanks sempai. i dunno why i couldnt do it right. ive gotten to near the end of the second contient before a few years ago and i used breakfest all the time

>> No.19103614

>>19103276
Go to the bartender and revive your dead allies, then permanently abandon some of them or sacrifice them to improve the genes of the rest, and you'll be able to recruit more people again.

You can also increase your party size limit by increasing your charisma.

>>19103561
Have you never used an analog clock before? It's 9 when the hour hand is pointing left. In game, the time changes from dusk to night at 8 pm.

>> No.19103619

>>19103614
no :(

>> No.19103641

>>19103619
Dumb underage.

>> No.19103949

what're the best things to spend small medals on?

>> No.19103980

>>19103949
Whatever weapon you need or a void license

Sage helm can be replaced by lucky dagger or capitalist big sister coin

>> No.19104001

>>19103949
1. A new bill if you fucked up and lost one before paying it.
2. Potion of cure corruption if you are truly desperate for one.
3. Void licence.
4. Sage's Helm if you don't have "see invisible" yet.
5. Tax box if you're a lazy bastard.
6. Hermes blood.
7. Tax box if you're a lazy bastard.
Elements Eyes can be useful especially for martial artists, Shield Tonfa, the Diablo, and Garok's Hammer also have some use. Everything else can be found fairly easily.

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>>19103614

thats bad. Problem is I actually created some kind of strong relation with those characters. the Loli, of course and the mad scientist. If I let them go then I'll be sad and, most importantly, I'll lost every equipment they use. I don't have enough space in my cave. its full of figurines and cards
I'm >>19103276 btw

>> No.19104031

>>19103949
Sage Helm if you don't want to use Ehekatl or Yacatect's weapon to see invisible enemies.
Shield Tonfa if you are a martial artist. While it looks good as a shield (if you are a sword&board character), it won't give you the benefits of the Shield skill.
Elements Eyes for martial artists and breath users (to change the elements of their attacks).
Diablo is a neat weapon for dual wielders (not heavy enough for two-handing, you will need some cursed scrolls of flying for that).
Garok's Hammer is quite useful. You use it on non-miracle/godly equipment to turn them into miracle equipment with a specific attribute based on the equipment type (check wiki page for a list). The most popular choices are ammo (critical+) and rings (travel+).
You will want to get Void Explorer eventually (unlocks the Void dungeon), but it's not a priority for low level players.
Decoration is just decoration (tax box is kinda useful if you don't live near Palmia and hate to go to that place for some reason), and everything else is a overpriced and can be obtained with other methods.

>> No.19104032

>>19104019
If you really don't want to part with ANY of them, increase your charisma. You get another "slot" every 5 charisma, up to 10 pets.
You can take gear from pets by 'G'iving to them, then switching to take mode.

>> No.19104035

>>19104019
If you still in a cave you prolly ain't maxed on charisma pet limit. Get more charisma. Problem solved. If you are maxed on it, you should have cash money. Buy a better house.

>> No.19104039

>>19104019
You won't lose them permanently if you leave them in the dojo or your discarded ranch.

>> No.19104128

So where do people like to put their houses? I like just below the embassy. Near Palmia, Yowyn, gods. I did move my stuff to the second continent once but regret it because second continent isn't as comfy.

>> No.19104147

>>19103980
>>19104001
>>19104031
alright, thanks. I think I'll buy Diablo for my dw little girl, then something with change

>> No.19104152

>>19104128
Moving it to South Tyris is a huge mistake, you use the maid house as a second home there. Just pick somewhere, not in a snowy corner, where you have room for all your farms and shit.

>> No.19104177

>>19104128
Between Palmia and Yowyn, I like that little spot near the lake.
But I keep my farm, ranch and shop right next to Palmia.

>>19104147
>I'll buy Diablo for my dw little girl
You really shouldn't do that. Pets spamming Time Stop are seriously annoying, it breaks the flow of the game harder than pets spamming Zero Shoot non-stop.

>> No.19104180

>>19088521
if you want to kill gods you have to restart from an older version of elona that allowed you to grind your stats high enough, something like 1.30-1.40

>> No.19104191

>>19104177
hmm guess I'll buy some hermes blood, then

>> No.19104198

>>19104180
Why do you say that? People have been killing them in later versions including the version we're now on.

>> No.19104206

>>19104191
Buy in bulk and bless them. Though personally I'd advise saving them until you've raised speed with AP as much as you can, unless you're suffering with low speed and can't raise AP well.

>> No.19104256

>>19104191
You could also buy a shield tonfa and equip it in your little girls ranged weapon slot. You still get all the stats at the cost of not having a ranged attack but unless you run a custom AI melee pets don't use their ranged attacks anyway.

>> No.19104276

>>19104191
Honestly, Hermes Blood potions are a bit overpriced in my opinion, especially for low-mid level characters (except golems, since they want to get all speed they can find as early as possible). They are great for pets (+20 speed if blessed), but not that great on characters (+8 speed if blessed), and you will be getting tons of speed via AP after you clear Act 1. I only buy them when I don't feel like buying anything else from the medal shop for the rest of my character's life.
If really just want to buy something now, get a Garok Hammer and use it on an normal Aurora Ring (Moyer in Noyel sometimes sells them). Equipping a garok'd aurora ring, a garok'd speed ring and the seven league boots will give you a pretty nice speed boost while travelling (very useful for selling christmas trees in Port Kapul).

>> No.19104513

Does your pet need a certain skill in cooking to cook? Or a certain happiness? It just won't cook. Ever. At all.

>> No.19104525

>>19104513
Has to have a relationship of at least Fellow. If so, sleeping at 9pm is guaranteed to get you to wake up in the right time period.

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this is gonna take a while

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>>19104840
Or not

>> No.19104993

>>19104128
Right on top of Port Kapul. You get all possible services here aside from rarely needed spellwriter and useless fence, town is small and comfortable, and you can move across the map by teleporting to the void/lesimas/younger sister mansion. If you move from your home on top of Port Kapul, you appear right next to trainer/wizard npcs, saves a bit of time.

>> No.19105180

>>19104993
>you appear right next to trainer/wizard npcs, saves a bit of time.
That doesn't really matter since you can just move the NPC locations. If you kill a vendor and then ressurect him it moves him to the resurrected location.

>> No.19105296

how does the game know what the alpha color of a spritesheet is? I've seen custom sheets using 000000, 2b8585, and ff00fff and they all work

>> No.19105675

My karma is -100,might as well kill every NPC in north tyris for their cards,right?

>> No.19105686

>>19105675
I do that at +20 karma.

>> No.19105753

>>19105686
Can i kill the NPC in my shop for cards too or thats a no no?

>> No.19105818

>>19092382
A prostitute to seduce defenseless putits with

>> No.19105844

Why is karata the best pet if there are pets with more speed out there like Grass dancer,Grass Killer,Hellstling,quick redcap,stormbling? some of them got special actions

>> No.19105862

>>19105844
Karata has cMetal and cResEle, which is unprecedented. In terms of true powergaming end-state best pet, speed is irrelevant because they're going to have base 2000 regardless.

>> No.19105867

>>19105753
no but if you do a party time quest you can wipe who you please and tourists for tons of ores and wallets

>> No.19105870

>>19105844
Read the pastebin, including the guides in there.

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Will you accept me?

Why do all those other messages pop up during her fight? is she driving the player insane?

>> No.19105903

>>19105862
Bells have the same thing and no, they don't lose cResEle.

>> No.19105933

>>19105844
You can raise speed via the act 2 guy/hermes blood pretty easily. Lower base speed means the act 2 guy method goes faster. So if you don't cheat the system to give pets the max possible growth speed regardless of base stats, his lower speed is better.

Doesn't really matter which pet is best though when they're all broken as fuck. Increased gains from pretty much anything that increases stats, pay gold to increase potentials at absurd rates, gain exp faster than the player just by default. I can kind of get the idea behind it (grow faster so people who have a ton can have each be strong) but the result is pets are just fucking broken as all hell.

>> No.19105938

>>19105902
She's trying to. Just like the dungeons. And the enemies who make you insane. She failed. You got over it. Hahaha, she ded, hahaha.

>> No.19105968

Any reasen why Orphe is not on the 45 lesimas floor? i never killed him,yet killed his version of rehmido and now i am on act 3

>> No.19106005

>>19105902
I think she's trying to infect you and that's how it feels from the victim's perspective.

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bump

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>>19106141
Bump2

>> No.19106450

>>19106145
Shoebill?

>> No.19106529

Is there a way to extract the static location maps (towns, static dungeons, deeds, etc) to view as images?
I put in a short attempt at just stitching them together from screenshots but by the time you make the handful of character moves you need in order to keep the PC and surroundings out of the image, the time of day and therefore lighting usually changes which makes the whole thing fairly ugly. This method also can't eliminate the elements of the UI that are displayed over the map.

>> No.19106550

>>19104180
Bad at the game.

>> No.19106551

>>19106529
I can't help you with the other issues, but pressing F9 will hide the UI.
You can also try to set lightning to "low" on the options menu to make it "cleaner".

>> No.19106630

Does Anna or Bloody still post here?
Would it be possible for the itemlist filter to be able to filter based on equipment attributes? As implemented the itemlist feature is not very useful because it doesn't tell me anything I don't already know, i.e. things that are already written in the item name.
I think it would be a lot more useful if I could filter by things like living, eternal force, sucks blood, floats, drains exp, etc, because those attributes require me to look at the items individually to see if they have them. This would be of actual use to the player, drawing attention to items that otherwise might be sold as trash rather than go through the tedium of eXamining every item.

>> No.19106680

>>19106630
To expand, right now I use the itemlist as a way to skip reading magic vendor inventories: I have potions of potential and a few other scrolls and spellbooks set to highlight so that I can scan for the things I want without having to actually read the entire thing. Checking magic vendors is something I do a lot, so it's nice that this feature lets me do it extremely rapidly while maintaining confidence that my haste didn't cause me to accidentally miss something I did want.
I think it would be nice to have a similar feature for weapons and armor, to highlight desired attributes without having to check every item which is even more time consuming than just skimming a shop inventory.

>> No.19106691

>>19106630
press [t] to determine if weapon can be used - then its has either Living of EF.

>> No.19106707

>>19106630
>>19106680
Reading items is part of the game. You're basically cheating. Might as well just spawn yourself some magic goods instead it would let you do the same thing even more rapidly.

>> No.19106710

>>19106529
Use the map editor to take and stitch screenshots. If you're trying to stitch a non-static location, then you can press F8 to export the map.

http://elona.wikia.com/wiki/Map_editor

>> No.19106714

>>19106691
Only works if you are already holding the item. Checking a black market vendor, for example, takes forever.

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>>19088521
the snail is a shade disguised as a snail
I never really found books useful
>>19088707
>gems = money
Patently false,restaurants make more money than you can possibly get from gems and fruit and veg seeds are plentiful and ranching sheep/cow is easy. You can make perfect gems with the horadric pot and pets sell them for some money but it's much easier to just throw money at them with evochat.
>>19089727
>>19089735
Expanding on this, you need to kill the boss of Rehmido. On low health it uses super regeneration and heals insane amounts. I wasn't able to kill it until level ~85 and I died a few times. It's a special floor so any items you drop on death are gone for good. You should focus on keeping potentials up and just do whatever you think is fun. You could collect useful god rewards like Yacatect's amulet or Jure's special feat that gives insanity resistance. Teach a pet cooking and another tailoring or carpentry (only one can proc per night). Some of my nicest gear was made by my android. Getting strong enough that you can safely kill Big Daddies will help you alot later, so best to start early. If you start a fight you can't win with one stay calm and read a scroll of teleportation and then a scroll of escape.

>> No.19106729

>>19106710
Actually scratch the part about saving maps, I just tested that and it doesn't work.

>> No.19106755

>>19106716
>tailoring or carpentry (only one can proc per night)
False, I wake up to breakfast, a new hat, and plate mail courtesy of my little girl.

>> No.19107208

>>19106716
Gems are good for early money, it takes a whole eternity to sell food in your shop until you level it high enough/get decent shopkeeper. Ranching sheep/cow is wasteful because you can ranch rabbits for extra luck.
You can also maintain a couple of dozen of ranches with ultra-heavy monsters with expensive meat. Just get best egg-layers and harvest/cook eggs.
Or you can just level memorization and spam wizard harvest for billions of gold, plat and medals, then get ponzi bank for to become trillionaire before getting in negative money with overflow.

>> No.19107353

>>19107208
It sounds like you haven't played for very long but you're trying to give advice. You can ride a snail to sell out a shop of 400 items in 2 mins real life time. You can only have as many ranches as pets slots you're willing to give up with a max of 15 if you play solo, not a couple dozen. Heavy monsters won't breed fast enough to give you any meaningful profit even if you manipulate the clock. I highly doubt wizards harvest is worth spamming. I don't know how it scales or if it even does but I doubt it's worth it at all when you add the cost of buying tons of spellbooks even with high memorization. Could be wrong on that one but it definitely doesn't beat the 25m+ gold you get for a full inv of cooked fish.

>> No.19107483

>>19107208
With Opatos' Fetters of Earth and having a house north of Truce Ground you can pass time really quickly, it takes me no time at all to sell hundreds of food.

And Wizard's Harvest is such a pain to use, it takes too long to drop stuff and when you're spamming it that delay makes it unbearable. I have over 18k stock because I just don't think it's worth spending the time casting.

>> No.19107546

>>19107353
It sounds you dont think about who you are giving advice to, beginner wont get 3x dishes and an excessive amount of seeds/super lure to feed shop. Also super lure is easier to use than massive veggie plantations.

Riding a bell with fetter of earth is filthy and gay. I dont like using borderline exploits to break already easy game, and its not even necessary in this case.

You can have egg-laying ranches without active breeder. You only need to fill them with good egg layers once, you can have potentially infinite number of working ranches this way. Heavy monsters give expensive eggs.

I've made ~10mil gold, ~200 pp and ~100 medals from 3k harvest stock just now, with low spellpower. I used it solely to get books to rank mages guild, but bonus was unexpectedly nice, especially medals - probably the fastest way to get those. Gold from harvest is a byproduct that makes fiddling with shop simply bothersome. I'll probably rely on harvest until i get piggybank on this save.

Gold is unimportant either way, you can just craft a stash of panties and sell them for instant millions once you hit midgame, or use up your mat stock for pots/poo statues.

>>19107483
Why do you need a house there when you can return to younger sister mansion for easy access to snow map tiles.
Gotta agree that Harvest is a pain to use, even after Ano fixed it slightly - it used to drop hundreds of tiny gold piles on each cast, was working well only on actual gaming PCs and easily capped map item limit.

>> No.19107550

>>19107483
Personally i do spend it, i just use xpadder and keep the shortcut on while i do something else.
If you have more than 1k speed, you should be able to spend from 2000 to 3000 spell stock before needing to check the game again to eat.

>> No.19107641

>>19107546
If you don't exploit speed in this game you can never max stats. Don't even THINK about having spell levels anywhere near useable in the void.

>> No.19107649

>>19107550
If this is also your post then how exactly is using xpadder fine but using a fetter of earth isn't?
I don't get that.

>>19107546
I prefer how the north area looks, I guess there's some minmaxing to be had but I like the big wide open area, and snow looks much better than rain.
And money is always useful to a mage, you can never have enough either pots of potential or scrolls of wonder.
If you pass time while checking vendors a lot, and you can theoretically burn through upwards of 400k in one restock, which would never happen but you can still spend a lot of money really quickly doing it.

I like the ranch trick though, I do wonder when Ano will nerf it.

>> No.19107803

Can you only harvest rings and amulets from artifact seeds?

>> No.19107809

>>19107641
You can max out stats without speed exploit. Your stat gain is capped by hunger and herb'in crafting time either way. After you get to Act3 you can get infinite herb farms with a few miromi gems.
Spell levels are unrelated to speed exploit, they are capped by potential and you can only recover it by either sleeping or spending skillpoints, and latter is a way to go for a mage.

>>19107649
No its another anon with xpadder.

I check at least 8 magic vendors for this and still have big excess of money. PP is more of a problem for me - i dont like investing without skill potential on investing, and simply selling items crafted by pets/void drops usually give more money than i could spend without black market/investing. What really burns money for me is spellwriter with high level books to train memorization/literacy.
I've recently noticed that i get many more potential pots from crafting with mats donated by pets, so i really only aim for scrolls of wonder/material now. Half a hour of pet arena grinding with dragon child/bell gives around 40 potions as a byproduct, in addition to a bunch of levels, crazy high fame and a few millions of gold in pocket money for pets.

I think ranch trick works as intended by Ano. Ranching with breeder gives much better profit per ranch. Still, I just can't bring myself to actually make use of it - its slightly tedious and doesn't give instant profit like selling a pair of kinky transparent ether panties of godly quality.
Will probably do a rancher/farmer save one day for this, since ranching roleplay value is quite high.

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>>19107809
Potential potions + doing high exp giving actions is a thousand times more efficient than the time it takes to farm herbs, and you're training skills that way along with your base stats anyway so it's two birds one stone. For example right now I'm getting level 2000 casting for wish using oracle while chugging potential pots when my potentials get low naturally. For farming herbs the time it takes to revive all your withered plants and harvest everything is huge compared to the amount of non curaria and stomafilia herbs you get. I find they're best saved for pets. As far as using the speed exploit, if you hold down s for a bit with 10 speed your character will get tired extremely fast. You can use this to go from 200-400 spell potential pretty quickly and just rinse and repeat. I'd also like to ask how you're going to mass farm those herbs in quantities to level your stats in the thousands without growing them by exploiting speed.

>> No.19108364

>>19106707
>Reading items is part of the game. You're basically cheating.
No, he isn't. Highlighting items is a feature of Elona + custom.
He is just using the features the game has given him.
If you consider using features Elona + Custom has as cheating, then by the same logic playing Elona + instead of Elona is cheating. Afterall Elona+ has hundred of features that make Elona easier.

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>>19108364
Mods and cheating tools aren't mutually exclusive, and Custom AI does have some features that essentially breaks the game's rules (vanilla or plus). There is a fine line between the concepts of "convenience/vanilla+" and "cheating" mods because in the end they all exist to make a specific feature easier to work with, so this isn't a very simple "yes/no" topic either. And comparing Elona+ to cheating is a bit too much (even if that was your intention, it was a rather silly example). E+ pretty much is a whole new game created on top of an old one, new rules and all. As useful as Custom is, it still is just an addon for E+, not a whole new game.
That said, while I think that equipment description is very easy to read thanks to all icons and colors, I wouldn't mind if we had the option to "highlight" specific weapon attributes of our choice using the old artifact fusion icon. It would even add a bit of extra "flavor" to the item description (mostly because I really like that icon).

>> No.19108998

>>19106707
Inconveniencing access to information (that you have access to anyway) isn’t skillful or interesting. It’s just a pain.
It’s the same shit as skill and spell trackers and the inventory stat summary view; they save you real life time doing tedious checks.

>> No.19109091

>>19108364
>Autistic child attempts to say something smart.jpg

>> No.19109147

>>19109091
Who are you quoting?

>> No.19109278

Any place I can get guaranteed cooking tool early on? The shops in the deed buying place refuse to stock them, ever. I'm not strong enough to kill everyone in party time and steal one.

>> No.19109297

>>19109278
Cooking tool is serious trash, especially with starting cooking skill, so you’ll learn slower because you get exp on successes.
If you can’t find a barbecue set early on, which is probably the case, I’d stick to using the cooking machines in towns. You can’t take them, but they’re free to use.

>> No.19109306

>>19109297
I meant any cooking tool, not one specifically called that. Forgot there was one called that.
Wiki says ''almost every town has a cooking tool in the inn'', but Palmia, Yowyn and Port Kapul don't have any

>> No.19109321

>>19109306
Ah. Well there’s no guaranteed ones except for the ones in towns.
I know the furniture vendors at the embassy stock some cooking devices on occasion, including said bbq sets.

>> No.19109327

>>19109321
>>I know the furniture vendors at the embassy stock some cooking devices on occasion, including said bbq sets.
Yea that's the deed place, couldn't remember the name. I've never seen any stocked in their shops on any character. Even on the guy I had in act 2 who invested them into the hundreds.
I can't find the ones in town or I'd just steal them. Usually I just luck out and find one in a dungeon but no dice.

>> No.19109395

>>19109147
And autistic retard embarassing themselves.

>> No.19109436

>>19109395
>And autistic retard embarassing themselves.
It's an amazing sight when a moron who can barely write coherent English calls another person a retard.

>> No.19109467

>>19109436
I'm not the autistic virgin trying to justify fucking gray areas in a single player game. If you want to do it just do it, stop trying to validate it online to people with the dumbest fucking sentence imaginable.
>iF u UsE tEH E+ u R HaCk cUz NoT vAnilLa eRgO AlL chEaTIng Go0d.

>> No.19109481

Get a room.

>> No.19109494

>>19109467
>I'm not the autistic virgin trying to justify fucking gray areas in a single player game.
No, but you're the autistic faggot who doesn't know how to use greentext.

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>>19106755
news to me

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>try doing quests to redeem karma
>guards get in the way and get killed in my rush
>redemption is 3M gold

yeah fuck this,its gonna take long

>+0 speed

>> No.19109739

So what do people think of mage trainers training magic? Is it good later on? Magic trains super fucking slow even at 400% potential via casting or them so it feels like a ripoff as is.

>> No.19109906

i am seriously considering just staying with -100 karma,robbing anyone i please,kill traveling vendors and not pay taxes is too much of a good bonus

>> No.19110206

>>19109327
In every playthrough I just tend to wish for the bbq sets since it is a pain to buy or steal them.

>> No.19110474

>>19110206
I have a stupidly long inheritance chain at this point. I hate early game.

>> No.19110550

>>19109729
That's very probably a negative speed of -1, you better check the clean data

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So, something that I do not see in the wiki is that the mage's guild members are infinitely respawnable while you are within its walls.
Is there anyone else that trains their weaker spells on them? They can eat my spells up to level 50 without being even able to react.
Having high anatomy skills also makes their corpses drop often, making it so that I can spend many ingame days devouring, training my spells and reading spellbooks from the magic writer and seller.
Is there any fault in my strategy for magic training other than the point where it becomes too easy to kill the mages? I mean, I guess if you incognito and kill the guild master you could do it even not being a member

>> No.19110711

Losing hope that anything good drops in dungeons. Make me believe again anon. Show me some good equips you got in dungeons.

>> No.19110808

>>19110711
Nothing,i cant even find a fucking stetoscope to see my pet HP

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>>19110650
It's not a bad way to round out your spells if that's all you want. However wouldn't you get similar results out of targeting monsters in hunting or later panic and challenge quests? Train spells there all the while getting gold, some corpses, and platinum for your efforts too? Work on your traveling skill traveling town to town for quests as well. It's interesting that the strongest spells like the ball spells don't necessarily need a target to train. Buffs target yourself and debuffs you can cast on any enemy to level.

>>19110711
I now have this equipped. I got this armor from a boss drop in a dungeon. Find that for dungeons I get most of my miracle or godly gear from dungeon bosses or big daddies with a sprinkling from the actual dungeon floor. Since it's adamantium I get lots of PV from the armor and it comes with decent magic resist and other enchants. Second page is just an enchant to negate blind. If you're a caster and worried about weight apply some blessed flying scrolls. That's what I did.

>> No.19110895

Why do I keep suddenly disappearing?

>> No.19110903

>>19110895
cursed equipment

>> No.19110904

>>19110895
See if your gear is cursed or if you have any ether diseases. Seek out a healer if you have cursed gear or get your hands on cure corruption potions if it's ether disease.

>> No.19110953

>>19110827
What's your MA up to now Kai? Also since you've been playing for awhile do you think this game has gotten easier or harder?

>> No.19110965

>>19110903
>>19110904
no longer teleporting, thanks

>> No.19111116

>>19110953
MA is now at 1,009. The game has gotten harder in certain aspects but easier in others.

The most striking change is probably the dungeon gold nerf. Dungeons, specifically the dungeon boss, used to drop a whole lot more gold and a whole lot earlier than now. All you really needed to do back then for lots of gold is dungeon dive. It's different now. Dungeons don't contain as much raw gold as before and you really need to level them up before you start seeing good amounts of it. So dungeons can be lucrative but not until much later in the game. Due to that gold making became more difficult early on leading me and other players to become more creative in how they got gold. Crafting, cargo running, farming/ranching, all became much more important along with the job board. Since the crafts and other money making methods took time to set up the early game imo became much longer and harder. More time was needed to raise gold to buy essential early game stuff. New enemies added as well as special actions has also bumped up the difficulty somewhat for me at least.

On the hand, some stuff did get easier. For instance It's definitely much easier to level up now and raise skills. I haven't had to resort to mass wish blessed descent potion shenanigans so far. I've been getting all my levels from just killing stuff in the void. Max exp needed to level skills last I heard was capped at skill level 300 so once you reach 300 that's the feel you'll have leveling all the way to 2000. Used to be that the exp needed kept raising past 300 so so far leveling skills has felt refreshingly much easier. The addition of fever mode has also made the farming of small medals easier. I have a deeper appreciation for fever mode due to higher speed on my character. As your speed increases days don't past by as fast meaning your fever mode dungeon runs last longer.

>> No.19111197

I came back to this recently and the last time I played was pre-shop nerf, which was also apparently pre-dungeon nerf.
Things feel slower, not harder. Every early game source of cash except party time felt not even worth doing, they gave so little. Getting my palace took annoyingly long compared to the older versions.

If the goal is ''get rich quick'', sure, its harder, early on anyways. If the goal is ''get excessively high stats way beyond what you ever need to tackle to main content'', then maybe its a bit harder earlier to setup shop and buy the castle and invest and all that crap.

But if the goal is just ''win the game'', it feels as easy as ever. You don't really need perfect superb growth, breakfest every morning, waking up every day to a nice cool glass of blessed potential, just to beat the game. Most of the enemies are just balls of stats that either run at you or fling shit and it still doesn't take long to trade for gear that makes you massively outclass them at everything.

>> No.19111228

Where can I get an evolution heart? I want to evolve my little girl

>> No.19111404

>>19111228
Random drop

>> No.19111415

>>19111228
Random drop from monsters that are level 30 or greater.

>> No.19111489

Can't you also buy them in act 2 also? I seem to remember being told to buy them a few years ago when my petless character found he had so much fucking money I could buy everything I ever wanted and still never be close to running out. So I ended up buying shit I had literally no use for. Fairly sure evo hearts were among those things. That or something with the same appearence.

>> No.19111507

>>19109467
We have people here using facebook memes. Summer 2018.

>> No.19111508

>>19111489
You're probably talking about the souvenir vendors in Larna and Arcbelc. You can get those hearts there but they can be very expensive. Once you're rolling in gold that option does open up though.

>> No.19111561

>>19111507
To be fair we also have people who think that cheating is "fine" because it's adding "content" to the game and Elona+ is also adds content to the game therefore it's also a cheat.

>> No.19111590

Do gods summoned in the truce grounds despawn?

>> No.19111650

>>19111590
They do eventually.

>> No.19111710

Someone mentioned making and selling panties for cash money. What do I make panties with? I'd think tailoring but wiki has no mention of them on the tailoring page and I ain't seeing any in game either.

>> No.19111723

>>19111710
You would need to use the pot for fusion to make panties now. Look at the pot for fusion wiki entry for more info on it. While you certainly could do that and make some gold out of it it's not nearly as viable a gold making method as it once was. Mainly because crafting gear has been made harder with the need for star dust. Easier to get living weapons of anything you want now though.

>> No.19111750

That's a shame. Thank.

>> No.19111822

>Move up
>Npc dialog triggers
>Move left to move up
>Npc moves as well to block me

FUCK YOU

>> No.19112014

What get? I already got the go-fast boots. Considering the snow immunity ring for more journeys to Noyel (but maybe not since those quests aren't popping up much and some are so absurd even snow immune with 7legs I'd fail easily).
The Secret experience of kuromimi, which can drop, but fairies don't seem to be common enemies so its not the best drop
Or a shift core which are wish only and I just think are fun, although they have only been useful once, as a max slot mutant, and even then it was kind of tedious to fix my speed with them

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>>19112014
Ops

>> No.19112164

>>19111561
We really don't, we have people shitposting for replies. Stop replying.

>> No.19112311

Why does a window that looks like an HTML error show up every time I load a character in Port Kapul?

>> No.19112445

>>19112014
You could get an aurora ring and use it to sell christmas trees faster.

>> No.19112510

>>19112311
Maybe because you haven't turn off the internet

>> No.19112589

My little girl stood in a pool of acid and melted herself.

>> No.19112602

>>19112589
haha

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>>19112589
you didn't need her onii-chan

>> No.19112667

>>19112602
>>19112604
I revived her anyway, she's at a higher level than me.

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>>19112667

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Great place to build a house in south tyris? or i should leave it near Palmia?

>> No.19113562

Beginner here. When will i be the better fighter than my imouto?

>> No.19113580

>>19113562
Pick a weapon skill to focus on and use your skill points to increase it, then boost its potential with platinum at the skill trainer. Send your pet home and kill some enemies, in no time at all you'll be a better fighter than your imouto.
The little girl typically outclasses the player at the beginning because of pet skill/attr bonuses and because she doesn't do anything but fight while you're busy picking apples and collecting materials and things; she also has better speed than the starting races (except fairy). You'll have to apply yourself a little in order to get ahead.

>> No.19113592

>>19113557
ST is uncomfy, don't build your house there. That's what the maid mansion is for.

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>started as inspired martial artist
>couldn't do shit while watching faggot of a sister rape everything
>pick up a laser gun, multiple miracle cells with magic ammo etc
><the arbalest> drop
It's like the game is telling me something

>> No.19113639

>>19109306
Palmia has a cooking tool, though it's not at the inn, rather, in the palace (Which is where you should be going to sleep in Palmia anyway).

>> No.19113650

>>19113634
Clearly you must practice the art of gun kata. Drop your martial arts, start leveling blunt and firearms and equip guns in every weapon slot.

>> No.19113658

>>19109306
I had to double-check. Port Kapul has a food processor on the very north-east of the map. Palmia has a cooking tool in the palace's kitchen (by the baker), and Yowyn has a shitty campfire in one of the houses.

>> No.19113663

>>19113658
Oh whoops you meant one you could buy. You should be able to buy one at the embassy eventually.

>> No.19113672

>>19113634
master the pistol whip like none other

>> No.19113676

>>19113634
oh, you could also just make a gene and get all of these items if your anal about the class and race bonuses

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>harakiri drops
>you can use it

>> No.19114584

>>19113639
>>19113658
Ayy I found Palmia's and have been using it for now. Figure once I get around to nuking the place I'll steal one of those.

>> No.19114896

What are some good uses for rod of alchemy? I've been collecting them because they seem like they could be useful but then when I try them they're a bit meh

>> No.19115097

>>19114896
you can draw charges from them to maybe charge something else other rods

>> No.19115099

>>19114896
In older versions they were very neat for using on containers you had opened to make another unopened one. Lots of items and lockpicking exp. Nowadays not so sure.

>> No.19115111

>>19115097
Eh I'll just get dupli-cane and use them for MP if I really want to use the crappy rods that can be charged (which I don't, because they pale in comparison to aoe magic)

>> No.19115216

I just had a bug on windows 10 where the game thinks a key is pressed down, and nothing fixes it. This happened on win 7 as well, but there it only lasted until you press the offending key. On win10 it's permanent.

The fix: restart as administrator and resave the game. this clears the bug. afterwards it works normally even without admin permission.

Thought I'd share.

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a bug, but less ridiculous than many of the real names generated

>> No.19115820

>>19115802
I had the perfect name, Ghostly Doll or something like that, for my character I made to look like a doll and use zombies
She died :(

>> No.19116286

How i can make my wife give wake up gifts? i am already married with her and her relation is soul mate

>> No.19116314

>>19116286
Gene engineer the right skills on her and wake up at the right time. Wiki has all the information.

>> No.19116416

I need better ways to get cash early. I'm level 23 with just over 700,000. I want my palace so I can get mage shop keepers and invest in them. Fairly sure if I do this now, I lose the investment when I upgrade home, since they all get fired.
Doing any quest but party time/entire continent trips give shit cash. Party time is being meh, compared to the amount needed.
I'm not sure why its taking so long this time, I used to easily have a palace by this point. What did they nerf? Income is so much slower but I can't tell why

>> No.19116587

>>19116416
Sell food in shops.

>> No.19116608

>>19116416
See >>19111116 and >>19111197

>> No.19116611

>>19116587
I am, its crap. Gets better later from experience, unless they nerfed it at some point, but as is it barely pays out. Right now escorts pay consistently decently, party time pays out either slightly more than them or basically nothing and harvest/hunt quests pay so little its not worth doing. So I'm just walking around doing escorts for the consistent path. I've heard fishing with super lure is good, fast money but I've yet to see even a single super lure on any character. Don't think I can just wish for one either.

>> No.19116641

>>19116611
Heavy corpses sell for lots more than light corpses. Go out and cook some big daddies.

>> No.19116642

>>19116611
Making gold early game is going to be slow. Need to get used to it because that's the new normal. Although it starts off slow it does snowball later on at least.

>> No.19116650

>>19111723
There doesn't seem to be a pot for fusion recipe for this on the wiki. The closest lets you clone panties. Unless that's what people are doing? But that takes stardust which while not too rare isn't all that common.

>> No.19116667

>>19116650
That's what equipment creation boils down to now. Using an original to make more of them. Harder to do but now you can make anything you want.

>> No.19116840

Eh... what? Help. I was doing a ''before too late'' quest with a little girl. She died. Entered Lumiest anyways. It crashed. ''Can't load area'' or some such shit when loading game, then it loaded in in my house and all the towns are gone.

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>>19116840
My house, shop and farm should be between the embassy and Palmia. None of which exist.

>> No.19116881

>>19116847
What version is that?

>> No.19116890

>>19116881
Oh didn't realize I cropped out version. 1.75.1. Far as I'm aware, the latest.

>> No.19116923

>>19116890
Latest is 1.77 but that's besides the point. You might have an issue with your custom sprite sheets or anything you altered in the graphics folder.

>> No.19116932

>>19116847
If you are into roleplaying this is some cool as fuck lore.

>> No.19116944

>>19116923
How would that make this happen? I only have 2 custom sprites, a hair and a body. Both where they should be and of the dimensions using the alpha color they should.
I have a backup but its about 700,000 behind which is a lot of money so I'm hoping there's some solution to this but I don't think there is. If a town breaks you can hold backspace to fix it. But you can't do that for the world. And my world is dead. Not a single enterable location other than wilderness exists. Well, they do exists, I get messages about them and can 'return' home. But they have no icons and pressing enter where they should be is wilderness.

>> No.19116945

>>19116840
You created a time paradox. The little girl was never supposed to die and now you're in bizzaro world.

>> No.19116994

>>19116944
Aside from the custom sprites did you do anything odd to the game? If Lumiest was the cause of the crash something in it the game didn't like when it loaded it. Could be something graphics related or an anomaly introduced into the game.

>> No.19117002

>>19116994
Nope, absolutely nothing. I've also visited Lumiest tons on this character, since I'm in the mage guild and its a good source of money via escort quests.

>> No.19117070

>>19116840
Have you set compatibility to windows 7?
Also, I hope you backed up your save.

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>>19117070
Yes.
And yes. But I updated to 1.77 and it fixed it. Guess you can backspace reinitialize the world, just update it.
Now to just hope it doesn't happen again 'cause I can't update it again when I'm on the latest version.

>> No.19117092

>>19116847
Make a backup of your current save. Press F12 to open the console. Can you try executing `resetmap` to reset all static maps?

>> No.19117437

>>19115802
I've got Pigeon of Blood for my character.
it's pretty hilarious

>> No.19117480

Thinking about going wild in customizing my pets. Sprites, ai, and more. How many of you guys do this? Do you feel that it's important? How big is too big for a party?

>> No.19117500

>>19117480
I only edit the sprite,i am too stupid and/or lazy for all else

i use my main pet+14 undead blood eyes dragons as cannon fodder on later acts

>> No.19117645

>>19112589
>>19112667
same anon here
just married little girl

>> No.19117647

>>19117480
I made a sprite for my little girl (seen in the last two screenshots posted), but its the first one I've ever made so it sucks. AI I plan to do once she actually has buffs I can make her use. First pet I've used since my very first character, hoping custom AI can allow me to use a pet in fights as a buffer/healer and not essentially a vastly superior version of myself that scales super hard, ignores all casting penalties and gets abilities giving it effectively infinite MP.

I can't see myself using more than one pet. Just one on my first guy was so fucking broken she sucked all the fun out of the game, causing me to restart and play without one for every character between then and now. With exceptions to out of battle stuff like breakfest that a true solo player is simply fucked by and can't get anything comparable to.

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Found some Ragnarok Online Screenshots and Sprites on an old HD and decided to edit some of them for elona for nostalgias sake. Haven't done this for like half a decade and working with the tiny resolution was a pain so the result doesn't look as good as I wanted it but here's golden knight if anyone wants to use it, just cut out the version you want and save as .bmp.
Maybe gonna do Defender tomorrow.

>> No.19117667

>>19117480
I do that, but I have specific characters in mind for my pets to begin with.
I tend to have around 3 or 4 pets. More than that kinda gets out of hand.

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>>19117645
congratulations

>> No.19117717

>>19117480
Sprites are a given if you intend to waifu anything with an ugly sprite; talk files and such are fun and easy, evochat takes time but how else are you going to lewd?
The only thing I'm wary of is custom AI, it seems a little OP so I don't intend to use it until I can win without it.

>> No.19117728

>>19117717
>The only thing I'm wary of is custom AI, it seems a little OP so I don't intend to use it until I can win without it.
He says, while using pets. Pets are absurdly overbuffed. They're broken no matter what you do.

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>>19117480
In the process of tinkering around with everything. Gave my pet a custom sprite, full body sprite, portrait and a custom talk file. Probably will work on a simple custom AI for her later. Definitely don't need to do all that to succeed with pets but it might be fun to customize them a bit. Keeping my party down to 3(ideal) or 4 with me included in the count. By keeping the party count down optimizing the gear for myself and all my pets should be much easier.

>> No.19117762

>>19117652
Sweet,who is defender gonna be? can there be a female version as well if its not too much issue?

>> No.19117780

>>19117762
To add,any site where these sprirtes can be found?

>> No.19117817

>>19117780
ElonaUploader.

>> No.19117838

>>19117742
What pet is that and where can I get one? Also any pet that I should avoid?

>> No.19117887

>>19117762
I'm not really good enough to do Sprites from scratch so he's probably gonna be a kitbash of 2 NPCs so that's most likely a no on the female version.
I'd love to do the Valkyrie sprite from RO for the little girls valk form but just thinking about turning that into 48x48 is giving me headaches.

>>19117780
The Ragnarok Online sprites? looks like http://rosprites.blogspot.de/ has most of them.

>> No.19117901

>>19117838
[Mani of Machine]
Hmmmm thinking

As for the second question, no. Thanks to custom AI and being able to teach any pet basically anything you can learn, the only real functional difference is the few unique moves they have access to, the metal monsters flags and the amount of life apples needed to give them acceptable hp (which for most is 0)
They do technically gain AP at differing rates, but there's an NPC that allows you to make them all go up at the fastest rate, super retard fast, regardless, just to make them even more samey.

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>>19117901
Awhile back I was toying around with preaching and she adopted the god I currently was on for god rewards. In the end both me and her will be Jure because my household is a Jure household.

>>19117838
You probably already have her. It's the little girl. I evolved mine into a Valkyrie and gave her a custom sprite I made for myself. Might be wondering where the wings are but I'm planning to make a second sprite with them. Want it so that when I use omega shift on her she transforms into this angelic knight using that second sprite.

>> No.19118027

>>19117887
>>19117817
Many thanks

>> No.19118193

>>19117952
Truly your house will be blessed. Hope my liitle girl becomes a cutie like yours then

>> No.19118303

Speaking about gods,why is lulwy allowed to have a city for her angel pets?

or why kumi,opatos,izpalt and ehekatl dont got default altars or cities dedicated to them anywhere

>> No.19118378

>>19118303
As far as I'm aware Jure's has a church building in Noyel making it sort of her town along with the Jure festival being hosted there each year. Ol-dran's ruler is a golden knight and golden knights and angels are the main residents of that city. If that's the case then Opatos probably has claim over that city. Karavika which is a representative for Yacatect performs there often. Lulwy has her tower in the desert however according to the dialog from the angels they're under siege by Ehekatl's cats. If Itzpalt wants to reduce everything to the elements and burn the world I don't think he cares too much for having a city dedicated to him. Nevertheless the mage guild and alters in various caves may venerate him. The Cyber Dome has plenty of Mani fans and an alter for him sits there. Kumiromi would probably like Yowyn and its citizens. Ehekatl hangs out with Kumiromi often so she'll go where Kumiromi goes.

>> No.19118399

Can i give a uber fast pet time stop weapons and theorically beat anything? i got sasumata and shena panty,not sure what other one does apply it to dual wield them

>> No.19118408

>>19118399
No. Number of hits per turn>number of turns to hit for timestop. And even with a super fast super armed monster, no.

>> No.19118441

>>19118399
Relying on time stop on your pets will drive you insane due to all the pauses and inturupts to you doing stuff. You'll go insane and then realize it's not as impressive as it sounds since you can't critical anything while time stopped and super fast is relative because eventually everything gets 1k to 2k speed. Found that my bell would get killed off before I could get time stop to eventually proc.

>> No.19118455

Hey does anyone know where I could find the NPC that resets/gimps your pet's levels and skills?

>> No.19118509

>>19118455
Its in act 3,ocean palace i think?

>> No.19118516

>>19118455
http://elona.wikia.com/wiki/Maile_the_marionette_shaman
The fact that you're asking means you probably can't go there.

>> No.19118581

>>19117952
Seems like your hungry for her putit meatloaf. So you got sexy Valkyrie melee pet but what other pets beside melee should I get?

>> No.19118608

>>19118581
Get Hyper Yacatect as a shopkeeper. Or a sex slave, either is good.

>> No.19118611

>>19118581
Buffers,healers and melee pets

magic and guns are for pansies

>> No.19118631

>>19118608
>Reducing the hatred avatar of a capitalism big sister to a housewife

thats gold

>> No.19118656

>>19118581
Well I have Mai as melee like you say. Other than that anything you feel will up your chances for survival or that you'll enjoy having around and working on. I guess there are two pets that I'm going to avoid because I'm lazy. They can be made good but you'll have to put in extra work. The two pets I'm avoiding is a damage caster pet and a range pet.

Reason being is because the player does both things better. The magic damage formula is better for the player than the pet. Since my character already does casting I would probably make a caster pet into a healer/buffer/debuffer pet instead leaving damage to me. Basically have the pet cast healing rain to heal the other group members and do all the buff/debuff checking so I can be free to kick ass. Managing special ammo is a whole lot easier player side than pet. So if you're lazy a range pet might not be for you if you want to get the most out of the damage they do. Really though it's up to you and no matter what you do you can't technically fail. You put in the work for your pet and any pet can shine really. Just some might need more work than others.

>> No.19118713

Is it really worth it to nuke a high level pet stats so that it can gain AP?

>> No.19118740

>>19118713
In the long run, yes.

>> No.19118761

>>19118740
I would say in the long run, no. You can use tag team to give AP to a pet by going deep enough into the void where every other kill is an AP kill and just give them AP that way. You only ever need X amount of AP and once you have it there's no need to farm it anymore. The amount of hero cheese needed to unfuck a pet is way worst than the amount of time you'd spend just tag team grinding. I completely regret doing it to my murder knight and I'll never do it again.

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>>19118761
>>19118740
>>19118713
>>19118631

sup, guys
So I just mounted the little girl and I died while doing it. problem is, even after too many turns like 300+, I couldn't leave on top of her. The little icon shown on right side os screen is not appearing, I don't know what to do!
I tried mounting on my slave but game says I'm already on top of the little girl

>> No.19119470

>>19119438
I have honest to god never used the ride command,i dont see a reason to

yet i play on overdose so my opinion might be null

>> No.19119542

>>19118611
Not that guy but what's a recommended buffer or healer pet?

>> No.19119630

>>19119470
I used one on my mutant with as many slots as possible until I found out shift cores are a thing and completely negate the speed loss of mutations. And never bothered with it again.

>> No.19119638

>>19119542
Defender for healer. It has a unique death prevention spell.
For buffer, your choices are really meh, as most of the games buffs are self-target only. With custom AI you can give them cheer and they can cheer you. You could also see which pets have the 'same race type' buff move and play a special race character to benefit from that. And Platinum Song is a thing, too.
The problem is without outright cheating you cannot have most of the buffs that actually effect someone other than the caster on the same pet. Because they aren't moves the player can use and therefore aren't moves the player can teach.

>> No.19119931

>>19119542
>>19099236
evolved flying frog for cheer+platinum song spam
defender for heal/tank
mito/kyoso for gravity accel/space retention

>> No.19119933

>found a living weapon
>it's a fucking stone
I throw it at the queen

>> No.19119945

>>19119933
Turn it into a skill-stick.

>> No.19120104

>>19119933
Life must be pretty hard for that stone.

>> No.19120165

>>19119933
hes got nerves of steel!

>> No.19120170

>>19119933
My first living weapon was also a stone, but that was back when living weapons were extremely easily exploited so I gave it a bunch of resists and handed it to a pet.

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a kobold dropped this

>> No.19121410

>>19121393
No it didn't, that's a rare drop from flower enemies

>> No.19121456

>>19121410
perhaps my eyesight is failing me.

>> No.19122033

>>19109306
Cyber Dome is your friend. When I start a game I cruise there 1st. Decent chance at Food Processor (34s, convert to paper = 3.4s), and Juice mixer. Juice mixer can save cursed/rotten fruit/veggies, a bane at low LVs, .1s per juice. Perfect to carry for emergency food until you can get Romias, rice ball, cyber snacks, etc. Juice trains stat slightly too. Remember, make the Juice mixer paper too! Unrelated but, even 5 mins into a new character Cyber Dome has a small chance at Laser Pistol, which has great range/damage.

On the topic of emergency juice, do you get a stat bonus multiplier for drinking them at Hungry or less? Normal food does this. How about juice?

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There is something in jure festival crashing my game,i will just avoid the area after i got my pillow

>> No.19122197

Stupid guard took my 5 karma for handing in wallet off me because apparently I've done that too much. What's a good way to fucking kill him while I'm weak? Any way to trick him into drinking acid?

>> No.19122230

looking to get back into this game, should i just roll d0rf warrior again? or go for a different class?

>> No.19122239

>>19122230
snail pianist

>> No.19122244

>>19122239
i'm.. curious why a snail pianist?

>> No.19122266

>>19122244
All the fun of playing a snail with all the fun of playing a pianist

>> No.19122268

>>19122230
Outside of Golem (Dim immunity, unique to them, slow speed until act 2), Fairy (equipment restricitons that are annoying to deal with on a fresh non-gene character, very high speed, frail, very high resists) and Snail (slow, killed instantly by salt, no longer have the faster AP gain upside since that one NPC just lets everyone gain AP at the same rate) it doesn't make much of a dif. The rest are really minor in what they do. I like goblin just for the easier mat gain without slower hunger gain, althoug Nefia time gives you ton anyways.

For class I prefer Warmage to anything else. They roll enough strength to not struggle with harvest time right off the bat, enough mag to be good at casting right off the bat and have a nice cast rate bonus.

>> No.19122350

>>19122268
Bullshit i still get dimmed as golem

>> No.19122356

>>19122350
That's amazing. You did something literally impossible.

>> No.19122414

>>19122356
I still get blinded by spells and pots/special actions

>> No.19122424

>>19122414
Dim=!=blind

>> No.19122593

>>19122350
Status effects from insanity bypass all resistance.

>> No.19122721

Who in the name of Jure do i have to fuck to get a small castle deed? shops are not stocking it yet have palace deeds

>> No.19122762

>>19122244
Snail pianist is the most balanced way to try the snail race. You play snail for challange, and you get a race feat at 50+ I think for better AP gains. If you want to see the challange of snail without it being such a drag, Snail Pianist is the way to go. What challange? Towns become a mini-game due to Cleaner. Cleaners can also port around to zap you with salt. They mysteriously move/appear in weird places while you play snail. It's not like this for normal races... from what I've observed anyway. Massive amount of paranoia, Rod of teleport/Make Door/Wall Creation/, & clever use of game mechanics needed. Pianist lets you break in to Rod usage, among other things. You get 19 LVs of Weight Lifting, huge plat saved there. Hunting, Harvest/Party Time provides plat and Rods. Preaching in Party Time can EZpass you for god gifts, could consider Lulwy first. Obviously you need to plan accordingly if you use Party Time for Preach or music. Paperwork Harmonica baby!

Pianist lets you be any character due to starting free skills plus 1 freebie skill. Your STR/CHA as a Snail Pianist is enough to do Harvest Time if you lock in max ranks, buy the Gardening skill from Yowyn. Your other stats suck so learn how to boost potential/train stats to be a mage or what have you. Mages should eat fruit/candy dishes then use Magic Device, memorization, etc to boost stats. Buy Casting from Lumiest (outside, not the one in the mage guild), things like that. Consume Blessed potion of Restore Body/Spirit for the freebie stat boost(1 year buff, check magic shops...). Focus on stuff to make yourself into the character you want. Don't forget to grab a zombie for cooking or risk the south entrance to Port Kapul (2x) to get Gene Machine to give anyone cooking... Gotta have Breakfast!

To really get going try this. Use starting money at Derphy for a Custom AI Wizard of Elea and ride your Little Girl from Vernis. She has riding skill, and you do too as Pianist. Set Wiz to...
1.If Target < 2 Move Away
2.If Target <= 10 Nerve Arrow or Magic Dart, whatever you like though Nerve Arrow fails less BUT doesn't work on Ghost/Lesser Phantom, dart does. Adjust <=10 if it becomes too obnoxious (ex:monster ball hunting)
3.Self Buff != Boost Move Forward. This one is buggy sometimes but when it starts to work, it works. Now you can get plat without the pain.
From there think of Little Girl's EQ slots as +13 to your 3... and don't bother buying Sage Helm or wishing for 7 League Boots, till Act 2 anyway (Dr. Gavela for slots). From that point you should probably get mining from Derphy or Vernis. You need to cheat walls in towns. Getting gold bars from time to time in towns is nice, trains STR too. After that just survive the various towns/dungeons and play how you want. Also, hope you can get some sort of see invisible weapon. That's the true bane of Snail, invisible enemies. Your limited slots make that tough to counter.

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>>19122721
Just walk on snow for like 2 days and back to refresh. Took me about 15 times to get it to stock what I want.
Also, what does the shit next to my clock mean? Its been there ever since I updated version to fix the vanished world glitch.

>> No.19122776

>>19122762
>and you get a race feat at 50+ I think for better AP gains.
You what? Since when? No mention of this literally anywhere else and I've never gotten one.

>> No.19122851

>>19122766
''Temporarily made loop and sub code levels display near the date to help find an infinite loop. Both of these numbers should eventually settle on a single-digit number after increasing and decreasing for a bit. If they are about 10 to 20 and still keep increasing from there, please send a report because that's the cause of the crash. ''
Seems they's this.

>> No.19123005

>>19122776
Taken from https://www.reddit.com/r/Elona/comments/2zjm9x/elona_elona_102_tips_and_tricks_to_grind_better/

Do not underestimate snail race. They have a hidden feat that is revealed only after level 50 or so: due to extremely low INI stats they gain AP much faster than most other classes. This becomes even more significant when doing awakened dungeons after completing Act 2, resulting in over 500 AP from 1 dungeon sometimes.

I did a lot of reading and I stumbled on this. Took me awhile to re-find, sorry about that. Basically he says it's hidden. Take it for what it's worth.

>> No.19123021

>>19123005
>They have a hidden feat that is revealed only after level 50 or so: due to extremely low INI stats they gain AP much faster than most other classes.
Is this actually a feat, or was this just written before you could make every race have max AP gain? It sounds like he's just calling their fast AP gain a trait incorrectly. Even Fairy can beat Snail base AP gain now. Like super easily.

I'm having a hard time taking a single post made by a literally who as evidence of snails actually having this.

>> No.19123075

>>19123021
Yeah I hear ya. As I said, I remember reading about that and I found it again. Perhaps you're right about him mislabeling it. I dunno.

How would a fairy boost AP gain? I tried fairy ages ago when I first started the game, elona 1.16... I wanted to be a Fairy Martial Artist. Definitely not the best 1st character, but it was fun and how I learned the game. With all the changes to MA maybe it could work now.

>> No.19123102

>>19123075
Maile the marionette shaman.

>> No.19123184

What are the upsides of playing fairy besides good magic and resistance?

>> No.19123201

>>19123184
The pleasure of being used by big bulky monsters

>> No.19123284

>>19123184
Better dodge rate. Not sure why you'd want even more advantages than that or think there are any. The resistances are fucking absurd. Also not sure what you mean by the good magic; they don't have any bonuses to it that matter beyond the extreme early game.

>> No.19123416

>>19123284
i was in fact talking about early game

>> No.19123446

>>19123416
Then speed. And charisma. They get tons of bonuses in exchange for downside that can be easily fixed once you rich

>> No.19123612

about how much do I need to level my shops need to be to stock pots of potential?

>> No.19123675

>>19123612
I see them every couple of restocks starting at rank 100. Raising it higher hasn't seemed to make them more common.

>> No.19123730

Can i custom tailor my defender to be a tanky healer while i spam buffs from the backrow so the undead army does the heavy lifting?

>> No.19123749

>>19123730
just give it that jure weapon that casts healing rain, pets that spam healing will do so until they die of not having any more MP

>> No.19123763

>>19123749
But i dont want her to die from overcast!

>> No.19123840

>>19123763
>>19123749
>>just give it that jure weapon that casts healing rain
Yes, that's why he said to do this. Buffing/healing others are very limited as is.

>> No.19123879

where can I get scrolls of flying?

>> No.19123887

>>19123879
invest in magic shops to over 100 they are still somewhat rare

>> No.19123922

>>19123675
BASED helpful poster

>> No.19123950

>>19123879
Magic shops, but also rarely from nefia. They're less rare in high level nefia, probably about as rare as faith scrolls.

>> No.19124052

Why do I see many japs talk about elonaカフェ? What is elonaカフェ?

>> No.19124385

>>19124052
elona cawfee

>> No.19124468

>>19124052
Quick search found this gem
>Elonaカフェのトイレ絶対飲むでしょ
gaygle translated
>Elona You will absolutely drink the toilet at the cafe
Whatever Elonaカフェ is, it sounds like a good time! That toilet is full of wishes.

>> No.19124486

Does my shop sell goods? Like decorated clothing, coffins, that kinda thing. Can't tell if they're being sold or not since I made like 1k of the things.

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