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I want to learn to read in japanese as a final goal. I'd like to enjoy imports and not have to wait for localizations. Since I have a job where I can freely listen to music, I was wondering if there are any good audiobooks or smartphone apps for learning outside of say, Rosetta stone. I know audio won't help me recognize characters, but it will help when I put a sound to a symbol. Anyway, have any of you taken the plunge and can recommend anything?

>> No.19061849

a thread died for this
understand that you can only become proficient at a language by regularly speaking/writing/reading it and striving to improve every day; now take your dumb weeb shit to the djt

>> No.19061872

>>19061849
There's no reason that audio materials shouldn't be a perfectly valid source of learning material other than the fact that nobody has gone out of their way to produce any.

>> No.19061916
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>>19058410
>>19061872
Japanese pod 101 is a nice casual thing to listen to and can definitely teach you some very basic basics. However, if you want to get anything out of the language, prepare to spend years devoting yourself to real studying. It's not something you'll casually learn on the side or while multi-tasking.
And next time, take this type of question to DJT instead of making a thread about it. Not because "a thread died for this", but because DJT exists for this. Whatever died was probably just touhou shitposts anyways.

>> No.19062445

>>19061916
Yeah I ended up finding japanese101 and the 'pimsleur' japanese audio lessons. I also found a good app called Kanji Study that's been really useful. It forces you to draw the Kanji strokes correctly, so i've just been repeating them over and over until it starts to stick.

Also why ARE there so many 2hu shitposts on here anyway? Is it just the low population and the same few people starting threads? Or do you all only talk about touhou and nothing else?

>> No.19062460

>>19062445
Jp is 70% touhoutism shitposts 25% idol groups and then 5% japanese culture

>> No.19062773

>>19062460
Everything has its place, but man there's more to talk about than that. There could be a whole thread about akihabara shops.

>> No.19062875

If you want to learn to read Japanese, learn the basics, set up a text hooker for dictionary lookup with a relatively easy visual novel that still uses real Japanese (not dumbed down shit like hanahira), and just read. You don't have to understand everything, or you can google specific things you're confused on. If you do anki on the side to remember things, it just helps you not have to look stuff up as much. That's how I started out anyway.

No idea about audio based resources, sorry. Maybe try to decipher song lyrics or something if you find that sort of thing fun.

>>19062773
Feel free to make one if you want. I'm sure there are many interesting shops there.

>> No.19063234

>>19058410
Here is some steps anon.

1. Memrise SRS

Classes in order Hiragana then Katakana(which is learning the alphabet) -> 6k Vocab courses(would suggest both the regular 6k vocab and the EASY 6k words as it helps you get there sooner) -> Grammar N5-N3. Reminder Without Vocab(the lego blocks) and Grammar( the blueprints of how all the legos fit together) you will truly be fucked in the language.

2. Listen and watch anime. Import over games would highly recommend things you are interested in rather than games that are boring. Also as anon mentions >>19062875 a text hooker would be a great start as you begin learning the vocab alongside the grammar.

I would tell you its going to take 2-4 years to even get good at it but at least you will not be struggling to find out the steps like i did and where to go to to learn.

>> No.19063252

>>19063234
One last thing i forgot it might be wise to learn on the book Japanese The Manga way which gives good Grammar examples and its a great book to start out on i would highly advise reading when you get at least 1k down on vocab. And also on youtube Kawajappa Curedolly is really really solid for beginners course. https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLg9uYxuZf8x_A-vcqqyOFZu06WlhnypWj i would highly recommend her as you keep learning. Despite me learning for a few years she really helped me understand sentence structure better and is still useful to learning Japanese.

All of these paths will begin to help you out quicker. Just be lucky you did not have to learn in 2015 or before otherwise you would be without much resources.

>> No.19063261

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oZEA54VJEdE

namasensei is the only way

>> No.19064070

>>19062875
That's a good idea, I used to have a firefox addon that auto-translated and provides definitions on anything you hovered over. Can't remember what its called now though. I'll look into one.

>>19063234
>>19063252

I really appreciate the detailed account anon. I'm definitely someone that needs structure and a clear plan and goals to stay motivated, so this will help a lot. I'm hoping that within 2 years of regular practice i'll be around the level I am with spanish, maybe a little better. I learned french growing up, so half of spanish is already done for you, so making out some word meanings is pretty possible.
I hope to be able to play through the japanese versions of all the dragon quest games someday. I think it'll help to be able to memorize even the basic stuff like menus.

>> No.19070810

>>19058410
One been studying through listening audiobooks while at work.

>> No.19080974

>>19063234
Not OP but thank you anon.

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