/jp/ - Otaku Culture

>>18809875

Should I stick with よつばと! to the end?

>>18809900
Input is good, but if you're not enjoying it or are forcing yourself to read it, then I recommend you pick up something else that you are interested in.

>>18809875
Oh, I do miss the old "DJT" OP that's just that picture.

How impossible would it be to get a doctoral position in japan, focusing on artificial intelligence?

>>18810126
Considering you're asking on the wrong board can't really say I like your chances.

>>18810126
むずかしくはないはずだよ

むずかしいけど

めいよしょくなので

きゅうりょうがおやすいみたい

久しぶりに来てみたらDJTは/jp/に移動したのか。いつからなの？

のーむ・ちょむすきーたん
われにちからをさずけたまへ
われをさまたげるげんごのかべをはかいしたまへ

>>18810235
数か月前より
一年～二年かも

>>18810252
ほー、やっぱりすごい久しぶりだね。
ご丁寧にどうも

Kind of off topic but what are some other skills you can learn with flash cards? I like how I can just mindlessly ankidrone for a year or so then read manga to an ok extent.

>>18810126
How impossible would it be to ask in the right thread (not this one)?

>>18807299
>Without doing anything else - shit level because that's only ~1080 hours.
what else should he be doing then? I thought you guys said reading a lot was enough for good progress?

>>18810322
Listening.

>>18810322
Is your pic kansaiben?

What's the best way to learn all or most of Japanese computer & math terminology?

>>18810322

It's just the way it is

>>18810335
It uses おる over いる, which is common in 関西弁 but not by any means exclusive to it.

Fuck learning radicals. Is the radical of 摩 手 or 广? What about 致, is 攵 or 至? And 尚? Who fucking cares? Fuck learning radicals!

>>18810387
umm, a kanji can be made of multiple radicals?

>>18810390
"radical" refers to the single component or component-kind that a kanji is indexed by in kanji dictionaries

>>18810387
Usually the strong radical is the encompassing or the left one.

>>18810322
Mining.

Praise Christ and the Holy Family. Men, listen up - My question is this: If I put my faith in Christ Jesus, will it accelerate my Japanese language journey? A Mormon Missionary came to my home the other day and told me that the LDS Church has one of the best language acquisition programs besides the US Military, and says that through much practice and the Grace of God, many Missionaries called to foreign countries are able to become competent or even proficient in their respective languages in just a short time.

Can I finally put down Anki? Are the reps just a false god?

>>18810567
flash cards arent for learning nihongo theyre for pretending to learn nihongo

>>18810336
you anki it I guess, it's not like it's any different across languages so you can actually just remember translations 1:1 and that'll work

>>18810567
I made a test. Separated my flash cards into two groups. One group was dipped into Holy Water, the other group was not. I had 1.7% higher success rate with the blessed cards. I'm still trying to find a way to make this method work with Anki. I tried dipping my cell phone into Holy Water, but unfortunately it broke. This proves again that computers are the work of satan.

How much does immersion actually speed up the path to fluency? Lets say someone who is N4-N3 moves to Japan for a year and puts an effort into interacting with native speakers regularly. How much faster would you improve as opposed to studying through reading, anki etc?

>>18810670
The point of moving to Japan is to try to force you into using Japanese all the time thus increasing the amount of time you practice. You can easily change most of your current daily life into Japanese without moving to Japan if you want and get a similiar effect

>>18810704
If you stay at home you won't starve to death if you don't learn Japanese though. Survive or die is the ultimate language learning technique.

>>18810670
slower

>>18810714
You can easily live in Japan without speaking any Japanese. For food you can just point at something on a menu or buy something at a store

>>18810704
moving to japan is like 5% of what you actually need to do to become real ninja

>>18810882
I believe like 2% is planting a tree seed and them jumping over it as it continues to grow.

I'm thinking of applying to the JET program when I finish my masters in a few years but I'm kinda worried about getting sent to some tiny 5000 inhabitant village where people will constantly stare at me.

>>18810670
memevsjapan straight up says in his videos that his Japanese was improving quicker while locked away in his room all day than by any amount of "immersion" during his time as an exchange student.

That should pretty much tell you everything. You're better off dipping your cards in Holy Water and praying to Jesus for Japanese gains than by actually moving to Japan.

>>18810898
>>>/int/

>>18810898
one dont do that two they probably wont unless you try to tell them you know japanese which i dont pay attention to that shit now but back then they absolutely didnt want

>>18810900
thats just because hes an unpersonable dork

granted most people dont make the most out of things like going to college and shit in general so

>>18810919
You can't make me leave, how mad does that make you faggot?

>>18810921
Wait what? Why wouldn't they want people who could speak Japanese to offer services as teachers?

>>18811024
you were to be a radiating beacon of eigo pulsing with overwhelming gaijin energy and nothing else

>doing my morning reps
>physical cards because lol anki
>encounter 連続 and draw a blank
>suddenly remember 続ける
>something something continuing
>suddenly have flashbacks to Final Fantasy VIII
>レンゾクケン
>fucking "renzoku"

I didn't do RTK but just vocab'ing the Kanji still appears to be quite effective in imparting their meaning well enough to assist in figuring their meanings and readings in various contexts.

I fucking hate anki

>>18811076
shoutouts to palying the best final fantasy of all time

if you can comprehend the writing in that game you are true nihongologist

>>18810933
>thats just because hes an unpersonable dork

Just like everyone in this thread

Any good application to "try out" sentences on? Like italki but not a paid service? I wouldn't mind talking to some schmuck and helping him through English best I can while he makes sure I can tell him the correct time over and over but I don't really want to pay for it.

>>18811303
if you don't know how to say it already, you're not going to figure out how to say it by trying

>>18810900
did you actually watch his video describing his time in japan? he said when people offered to hang out with him he said he'd rather stay inside watching anime, and at school lunch when people asked him to sit with them he said no and then sat in the bathroom eating his lunch and watching anime
his """immersion""" is literally the furthest thing from it

>>18811308
Well, then how should I go about doing it? I want to make sure the sentences I am writing work but I'm not certain of some word combinations or the best way to put things. What do you suggest for solving this problem?

>>18811318
don't produce

>>18811322
Do you mean reproduce?

>>18811311
matt from ajatt here live from the 男子トイレ and i have this revolutionary way for you to learn nihongo lol

>>18811318
abort such a fruitless endeavor unless you have watched 10000 hours of anime minimum

>>18811328
no

>>18811311
That's because he wanted input, not to try and force output. It paid off. His Japanese was a very low level when he lived there, he couldn't even read his textbooks

>>18811338
apparently being around other humans is no longer a form of input?

No seriously, when should one start making outputs? Clearly not anywhere near the beginning or even the intermediate levels.

>>18811351
After N1

>>18811351
literally day one minute one

>>18811351
once you can already think in japanese

>>18811311
And he explicitly stated that his autistic method was improving his Japanese at a far greater rate than spending the time with other people.

Did YOU even watch the whole thing?

Go do your reps.

>>18811368
youre obviously gonna do better at the thing you wanna do than the thing you dont wanna do

doesnt mean the thing you do wanna do is better or worse than the thing you dont wanna do

also lmao @ literally watching 30 seconds of a matt video let alone that 3 hour piece of shit

>>18811348
In his situation, it was not.
1) his level wasn't high enough for native Japanese. He was much better off mining i+1 sentences from simple anime and manga.
2) if you force yourself into a social situation it will force output, simple as that. You might not know that since you've never left your house

I'm learning Japanese mainly as a hobby but doing Anki makes it feel like a fucking chore.
Should I just stop with Anki and just stick to reading stuff?

>>18811383
Yes

>>18811383
Dropping anki made Japanese more fun for me.

>>18811382
>2) if you force yourself into a social situation it will force output, simple as that. You might not know that since you've never left your house

uhhh social interaction is a 2 way street but because you literally have never left your moms house since quitting high school you forgot how it works

no point in even responding to 1 because its just opinion based on assumptions about a guy who doesnt really know that much japanese but wants you to think he does so you give him patreon money

>>18811368
How do you know his method was superior if he avoided social interactions? You'd need to have tried both to make an accurate comparison.

What are the best (online, preferably) resources for 文語?

Mining is a stupid meme

The Rise
>>18791599
The Fall
>>18811092

>>18811494
who does this

>>18811503
everyone

>>18811405
>uhhh social interaction is a 2 way street
That's what I said, ESL-kun

Historical readings are fucking shit. How do I read Japanese history for pleasure when everything has an irregular reading. Meiji is the best thing to have happened to this country. They made everything new be read in the kan'on.

>>18811535
so then why were you saying the thing to me that i was saying to you in the first place actual esl chan

>>18810322
First and foremost, it mostly depends on what you want to do with the language. You can't get "good" by any measure after about this time whatever you would do. Reading isn't the panacea.

>>18811551
Nope, I explained both reasons why that particular 2-way street would have been a poor choice, just like all your life choices

>>18810322
your life has to be all japanese all of the time not some japanese some of the time

>>18811576
you didnt explain you just belted opinion and insults lol (not lol actually because you not entertaining or insightful)

>>18811564
>You can't get "good" by any measure after about this time whatever you would do
So ~1000 hours isn't even enough to approach 'good', no matter what?

https://jisho.org/search/tanshou

WHY IS THIS LEGAL

>>18811585
not even close

>>18811303
>production

Quick question:

From this video: https://youtu.be/SbVcza6SG4k?t=150 at 02:32

The lyrics, according to that hard subs is
>この瞳が開く時は心など無くて

But I can't hear 瞳 being pronounced as either its kunyomi ひとみ or its on-yomi どう/とう. Can someone with better ears help me confirm if it's actually 瞳?

>>18811631
can't watch right now but is she saying め

>>18811589
Welp, there goes my target of conveying to my Japanese ex-friend in Japanese how sorry I was for my treatment of him two years ago by the end of this year.

>>18811631
It is read as め (meaning eye, eyes), which is pretty normal for something as artistic as song lyrics. They just do what they want sometimes.

>>18811643
try 2000 hours and you might make it

>>18811631
fuck boku!!! its め but 瞳 is the meaning welcome to >>18811651

youll also see this kind of thing in your beloved visual games too and maybe even those light novellas

>>18811679
Yeah, but he shouldn't worry about that because it is so abnormal to make 瞳 read as め it either requires furigana or incredibly unmistakable context (but someone will still read that as ひとみ I bet). In the end, it's on the author to make himself intelligible.

>>18811697
yeah i shouldve said with furigana because usually the author needs to convince you that their use of kanji is eloquent and witty

Has anyone tried installing はなひらっ！ on Linux?
I get this error all the time.

>>18811588
I'm sorry you had to scroll all the way to the bottom of the page to find what she meant by 短小ペニス.

>>18811704
install gentoo

>>18811704
trying using the chown command and not on yourself

>>18811588
Poor phonology.

>>18811588
Meiji is to blame (I say this as the >>18811538 guy). They made readings regular and the vocabulary backward compatible with Chinese at the expense of creating many homophones.

>>18811715
Did not help

同音語

why am i continuing to "learn" this language if i'm autistic and can barely communicate in my native language

>>18811774
do you have anything better to do in your spare time?

>>18811774
Because you're not learning to communicate. Your only goal is to not need translations for your favorite form of escapism.

>>18811774
You can always brag about being better at learning Japanese than Americans because you speak not one, but two languages to give you unique insight into linguistic intersectionality: English and Norwegian.

>>18811774
you can "learn" japanese

>>18811785
>spending thousands of hours studying so you can understand media for which translations are already available
Shit reason

>>18811810
not only translations are available but even full english dubbing to eliminate the need to listen to a foreign language altogether

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SxJ4VWoeOzs

How do you get people's attention without saying "oi"?
I've watched too much anime where everyone is young and friends with each other so I don't know how to polite

>>18811824
Foreigners don't need to be polite.

>>18811810
Your autism isn't strong enough then. Leave.

>>18811824
Won't すみません do?

>>18811824
heres a quick and dirty primer to 正しく礼儀 in nippwn

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wYQcU5VXde8

>>18811814
Languages are different, there is no such thing as a perfect translation, and most translations are in fact horrible (especially dubs, since they need to alter the text to match lip movements and timing).
Non-EOPs discover this simple truth once their English gets good enough, native English are less fortunate in that regard.

>>18811863
native English speakers*

>>18811863
oh wow i had no idea that people could just write whatever they want and put it on the bottom of the screen while people are talking

the scales have truly fallen from my eyes and now it is time to learn nihongo

let me at those flashcards

>>18811810
You sound like a fake autist to me. I'm not even sure who you're quoting. Now someone like the OJT guy, or whoever shits up this thread with arguments over nothing, those are /jp/'s proud aspies. Begone!

>>18811838
I was thinking more like if some おじさんcollapses and you go check on them to see if you can help them and ask "Hey are you ok"

>>18811875
I honestly have no fucking idea what are you getting at.
You asked me what was the point of reading/watching the original if there are translation and I answered your implied question.
What are you trying to say with your sarcastic post?

>>18811912
i didnt ask anything in the post you responded to

>>18811924
I said "implied question", not just "question".
Whatever. I'll just say this.
Your argument about the existence of translations is garbage, even mentioning dubbed anime makes you a faggot and you don't belong in this thread. Begone now.

>argument

>>18811709
てやんでぇ、御短小茄子ではぬ！

>>18811879
It's hilarious cause I'm probably one of the few people ITT that are actually diagnosed

Out of the loop, any cool new resources added to the CoR in the past few months?

>>18811997
ｗｈｙｓ that hilarious

im sorry about your condition but i hope you keep doing your best

>>18812004
Because you're gatekeeping the term autist towards a literal autistic as if it's some sort of secret club, I just find that kinda funny. I'm doing fine, thanks for your concern.

スレッドがなんということだ？？？

>>18811732
why do you have a source based distro if you can't even read source code and debug a simple python script?

>>18812086
linux is apparently for hipsters now much like apple products

half the people who use linux dont even know what terminal is..

>want to finish Core10k before I leave to go to Japan for a month on July 5th
>only have 85 days until then
>72 days worth of new cards left
Guess I can't take it easy for the next three months

>>18812086
Because I'm not a Python developer.
I don't even know what script are you talking about.

>>18809900
Yes, because it's a masterpiece.

>>18812111
report back after trip i want to read your despair of how futile the flashcards were in practicality

>>18812119
You say that like this'll be my first time speaking to Japanese people, I have very little concern about my ability to communicate while I'm there. Even if I had to leave today I'd be fine, my thinking is just that if I finish Core10k before I leave and then only do reviews while I'm there, it'll give me a convenient block of time to get some more of the Core10k matured. Then when I get back, I'll start on my mining deck that I've been building for the past 6 months or so.

Any ゲイs here read 君の膵臓を食べたい?
難しい?

>>18811704
I think I actually got that same error before on Windows 10, but that was a long time ago so I can't be sure.

>>18812115
Well take a half hour and learn it

>>18812186
名称によって物語はジョングリーンらしくて月並みそうだ ね？読むのは辛そうので微塵でも読む気がねえよ

>>18812204
Still, what script are you talking about?
Wine is in C, はなひらっ is in ... no idea, I can't find any info on the engine. And the issue seems to be a sort-of-bug in wine, which has been discussed but not fixed.
What does Python have to do with any of this?

>>18812154
i made no assumptions about you dude other than the flashcards being utterly worthless in life

>>18812255

Do you really think if you keep repeating this for long enough, people will actually start listening to you?

>>18812294
im not worried about it dude stay in your lane

Here are some of the words I learned today. Also mentioning in brackets one word I already knew using the same kanji. From 1 to 10 how good do you think I am?

推薦 (推測; none)
各個 (各地; 個別)
課題 (放課後; 放題)
誤る (誤解)
特徴 (特殊；none)

>>18812318

>every time I take a look at this thread this one guy typing entirely in lowercase is shitposting like no tomorrow
>every single fucking time
Granted I'm not here all the time and I only look once or twice a day, but still, that's an interesting coincidence.

>every time I take a look at this thread theres these few guys typing with capital letters and periods and shit and are shitposting like no tomorrow
>every single fucking time
granted im keeping an eye on djt most of every day but still thats an interesting coincidence

>>18812330
Dude anki sucks LMAO

>>18812330
please stay anon, we need good posters

>>18812345
>I

>>18812407
i copy and pasted it dude you think i care enough to go back over it

I fucking did it.
Damn japs and their meme encodings.

>>18811311
i want to murder this person

Picked up some of this swill to "immerse" myself in Japanese culture. Wish me luck on my drunk reps today!

>>18812330
i almost feel like you should know this but there's plenty of people who do all lowercase when shitposting and regular posts when not

thinking they're all the same person is like believing that florida man is one guy

必死だな
お前の暇つぶしに付き合う奴はいないよｗ

>>18812545
ここにあるやつは全員暇人だよ

>>18812589
いる*

>>18812589
個人的ちゃうやで

Any resource to watch Japanese live-TV? I used keyhole a few years ago, but not sure if that's still working.

>出動
What is this? Some kind of a sortie?

>>18812632
practice a lot until you can keep up with what they're saying

Had an interview this week to go teach English in Japan starting in July. Looks like it's time to start reading this thread. Any specific guides to date-level Japanese?

>>18812632
You are better off watching anime since it won't have ads every 10 minutes and is much easier to find

>>18812655
You are going to learn fuck all in 3 months, might aswell give up now

>>18812655
don't worry you don't need to actually know japanese to teach english in japan
and you're probably only gonna be there for half a year tops so it's not even worth it

>>18812670
But I already completed Genki I

>>18812632
Seconding this question, somebody posted a site on here maybe close to a year ago that had all sorts of live Japanese TV channels. It had a dark interface and was only accessible with a Japanese VPN connection. I forgot to save the URL and I haven't been able to find it since.
>>18812685
Hahahahahahahaha

>>18812685
Congratulations you can talk to a toddler now
Actually nevermind, the toddler probably knows more Japanese than you do

>>18812655
HWAITO PIGGU

>>18812692
I watched an episode of AKBingo without subs today, I think I got the context. I can do this.

>>18812670
If I have 90 days, if I dedicate 12 hours a day I'll get the requisite 1000 hours to know Japanese.

>>18812812
My brain starts melting after the third hour.

>>18812812
If you have the willpower to do this then you're wasting it teaching English in Japan. I don't think you understand how much effort what you're describing here would take.

>>18812910
If you have the willpower to learn Japanese over the course of a few years, you're wasting it babysitting in Japan.

>>18812637
yea you got it dude

>>18812910
Teaching is just a means to an end for 100% of English teachers in Japan

>>18812525
this is funny because you honestly think you have posts worth capitalizing and using punctuation on lol

>>18812947
i wonder if teaching english to kids in japan is like trying to teach nihongo to the kids on djt

>>18812519
That's pretty good beer. I prefer Sapporo, myself, though

Just came across 出働
Seriously, what the fuck is an RTK?

>>18813066
no man just stop its dead you killed it theres literally nothing i want to do with 出働 anymore

weve conquered the 出働 route

>>18813066
by the way heres a pop quiz for you

If I exclusively watch shows with female speakers, how can I avoid picking up female-oriented language? I don't want to sound like a tween girl.

>>18813177
its not gonna happen

just put on a skirt and accept your fate

>>18813177
not being gay helps

>>18813193
>watching women makes you gay

I'm not here for your toxic masculinity, I'm here to learn Japanese.

>>18813208
the resident dorks dont take kindly to people wanting to produce even though using nihongo is a very important part of the learning process

there really is nothing to tell you here watch shit with more boys or be the girl that you know and i know is deep in your heart

>願わくは御名の尊まれんことを

Can someone tell me what exactly this まれん inflection is so I can look it up? I think it's negative.

I’m doing Heisig. How did you guys mine the kanji, what do you guys think I should do. Right now I have the story and then I make myself right the character. But I don’t know if that’s the best way. What do you guys think?

>>18813252
I used the rtk deck from cornucopia
make sure you visualize the story vividly
keyword on front
write down character
...

>>18813252
what do mean, mine kanji?

go through the book in order and add 15 to 20 kanji to your rtk anki deck per day, that's literally it

there's anki decks with koohi stories already included but writing your own is probably better in the long run

>>18813129
D. Agree

How is WaniKani for learning kanji? I know kanas and some words but not kanji.

>>18810135
Seeing nothing but kana is actually becoming infuriating.

>>18812686
Search for Fuji TV live. No need for VPN, you only get to watch 5 minutes then you have to reload to keep watching unless you run some code in the console to stop their counter

>>18813244
its a cool literary ye olde masen dude

>checking baka-tsuki translation every now and then to try making sense of bits I don't understand at all
>there are entire paragraphs that weren't translated
>there are entire exchanges of dialogue that don't exist in the original text
Huuuuuuuh.

>>18813326
It's good. I've been using it for about a month and a half and I've learned ~443 words, 191 Kanji, and 162 radicals.

>>18813252
I just brute forced it.

>>18813326
really bad don't use

>>18813337
Time to watch more anime

>>18813337
ｗｈｙ

>>18813416
That's pretty slow

>>18813407
>baka-tsuki
┐(´д｀)┌

>>18813326
you're essentially paying to learn sub-optimally

it's only good for casuals like >>18813416 who get discouraged by the dour anki interface

Whats a good contention rate for anki

>>18813177
Just read 北斗の拳.

>>18813475
Above 0%.

>>18813467
>>18813454

I'm not discouraged by anki's interface, I used anki for grammar in addition to some other sources. I like wanikani because I know someone put thought into how quickly and in what order it introduces new words.

I'm willing to pay for a quality product that works well for me. If you want to use and just memorize on/kun readings from a big list and that works for you, then yeah I guess it's a waste of money.

Either way, in probably like a year or so I'll know all the jouyou kanji and I'll have a year of studying grammar under my belt, so I'll be in a pretty good place.

>>18813244
>>18813370
I'm pretty sure that's the classical volitional む.

>>18813515
>I used anki for grammar
>a year or so I'll know all the jouyou kanji and I'll have a year of studying grammar under my belt, so I'll be in a pretty good place
Anyone actually believe this post isn't bait?

I can only comprehend easy and basic LNs and like... JRPGs. I want to move up but I don't know how. Whenever I try to read something even slightly more complex, it quickly turns into just trying to infer meaning from looking up words. Should I just keep reading basic stuff and hoping that that cements things more for me?

>>18813326
If you're gonna use it using the wanikani deck from the CoR.
The kanji and word lists/order aren't bad in and of itself.
But the app is made so you can't go faster than a certain pace. So don't believe their lies, this isn't done for didactic reason but rather to make make you pay for much longer.

>>18813565
>but I don't know how
It's called stop being a little bitch. Read whatever you want and look up things you don't understand, and after a while it gets easier. There isn't more to it.

>>18813515
>memorize on/kun readings
You shouldn't be going this regardless of how you're going about learning japanese.

>>18813475
90-95% with 15-30 new words every day.

>>18813561
Wanikani covers "84.78% of the kanji that Japanese 9th graders should know, 78.81% of the kanji found in JLPT 1, and 99.21% of the kanji found in Japanese books/ebooks."

There are anki decks for grammar and again, that's not the only thing I use to study grammar.

I'm not saying I'll be fluent, but I'll definitely be able to read a lot of stuff comfortably. If you think what you're doing is any better, feel free to actually attach yourself to a method rather than just take really vague shots at mine.

>>18813596
this is a joke right

>>18813352
That's better than nothing, but it's not the one I'm thinking of. In fact, there were two such sites, one of which had a plain, white interface if I recall correctly. I believe the URL for that one was terebi.tzn.re but they seem to be gone now.

>>18813608
No, im 98% myself

>>18813608
Every anon that talks about their anki stats goes "hurr I do 4500 cards a day with a 98.1% retention rate in under 15 minutes, if you can't add 100 new cards every day you're retarded." Hyperbole? Maybe. But that's how it is in this stupid thread for idiots.

>>18813624
>screenshot of a number without context saved from 4chan

I was wondering what 体言止め adds to a sentence/work so I looked it up and got some examples of it being used:
>私がいちばん好きな花は紫陽花です。
Mhm, yeah, that's a sentence alright.
>私がいちばん好きな花、それは紫陽花。
Holy shit this feels so literary.

>>18813635
It has context. Its my anki percent.

>>18813653
that's evil

>さいですか
Is this just a weird way of saying そうですか? For context, MC just gave his theory on how something happened, and then was given a brief explanation on why it couldn't work.

>>18813583
Guess I'll just keep banging my head on this book, then.

>>18813664
Yes.

>>18813600
>Wanikani covers "84.78% of the kanji that Japanese 9th graders should know, 78.81% of the kanji found in JLPT 1, and 99.21% of the kanji found in Japanese books/ebooks."
Reminder that kanji are not words.
>There are anki decks for grammar and again, that's not the only thing I use to study grammar.
Grammar decks are retarded and it's a waste of time to grind grammar. You aren't studying with those.
>I'm not saying I'll be fluent, but I'll definitely be able to read a lot of stuff comfortably.
No, you won't.
> If you think what you're doing is any better, feel free to actually attach yourself to a method rather than just take really vague shots at mine.
My method, like pretty much everyone else here, is reading, mining, and referencing HJGP/DoJG. Before that, all I did was read through Trent Kiwi and pick up a couple thousand words from Core.

How do I interpret this? I don't think I've skipped a day, since then I would've had way more reviews the next day, right? And even the streak counter says that I'm still on a streak. So is this just a bug? I'd be very annoyed if I missed a day, but I don't think it happened.

>>18813678
>Reminder that kanji are not words.
Wanikani doesn't just do kanji, that's just a lot easier to quantify than how many words the average 9th grader knows. It teaches plenty of really common vocab words, not even strictly jukugo, for each kanji.

There's not a lot of point replying to the rest of your post. "You're not studying" is just wrong. I do cards from my grammar deck as I read my grammar book, and over time I do better at them, it's demonstrably effective. "You won't be able to read" is just ridiculous. If I have the vocab of a 9th grader and I've been studying grammar every day for a year and I still can't read anything native, that would say more about japanese as a language than my studying methods. But you're already wrong, because I can already read some stuff just fine.

The efficacy of my methods doesn't impact yours in the slightest, so I don't know why you're being so defensive. I know how to learn things, and I know how to study effectively, because I've been doing both things for a long time; I'm not really seeking assurance here. I'm telling someone that I find wanikani to be a good use of my time, and that it's been more effective for me than anki was in the past.

>>18810598
>you anki it I guess
I was more wondering where to find it all in bulk, or where to mine it.

>>18813527
yea i just googled the thing he posted and it comes up with

天にましますわれらの父よ、 願わくは御名の尊まれんことを、 御国の来たらんことを、 御旨の天に行わるる如く 地にも行われんことを。

which would indicate that and is actually a good line for giving examples on this

>>18813718
>Practice free throws
>Practice running

If years of this doesn't make me great at playing basketball then I don't know what will

>>18813600
>78.81% of the kanji found in JLPT 1
>99.21% of the kanji found in Japanese books/ebooks
Are they implying 20% of the JLPT 1 kanji are not used in books?

>>18813789

I do listening/speaking practice too, mom, don't worry.

>>18813800
Most Japanese natives can't even pass the N1, wanikani really is on another level

>>18813664
氷菓の主人公がいかにも言っていそう

>>18813475
the one where you're gaining matures over time

>>18813849
そうだろう
でもこのライトノベルがちょっと難しい
でも終わりまで読みたい
頑張ります

>>18812186
読んだことなかったけどあらすじ見たら意外と面白そうかなと思った。膵臓って比喩じゃなくて本当に膵臓の病気のお話なのね。「小説家になろう」産にもこういうタイプの作品があるとは。

>>18813898
古典部のやつはライトノベルじゃなくて一般文芸書だったと思うよ。米澤さんって結構硬派なミステリも書くしね。
あと、物語は淡々としてる割にやたら難しい語彙が出てくることあるよね。

>>18813475
>contention rate

>>18813977
baited for that exact response

>>18813807
>I also practice jumping in place

Excellent anon. Surely doing X will never make you good at X. You should keep doing Y until you master X

>tfw it'll be at least a year until you can read and understand the above two sentences.
早くだけ日本語したいいいい

whats a good menstruation rate with anki

>>18813931
そうだろう。こんな話のわかるのミステリは面白い。
ちなみに氷菓のアニメを見るのことがあります？
すげえきれいなアニメｗｗ

>>18813992
20/day

>>18813225
>the resident dorks dont take kindly to people wanting to produce even though using nihongo is a very important part of the learning process
wrong

>>18814010
so you take kindly?

>>18813992
Haha, don't you mean "retention rate"? God you're dumb

>>18814010
>using nihongo is a very important part of the learning process

Just like when a parrot talks it magically learns more English!

>>18814021
Incidentally, my asshole can retain 2 dicks inside it.
私はゲイから。

Anybody know why なる only appears like 400 fucking words into core?

ゲイからって何の色でしょうか

>>18814034
Because core is shit, just use a frequency list or mine

>>18814025
reciting nihongo isnt important but using nihongo is

get a clue jackoffs and go back to jacking off :

>>18814016
no
production is not part of the learning process, comprehensible input is
and if you continue to post here you acknowledge this board and why the thread is here
otherwise you look pretty stupid coming to a place you dislike talking to people you hate

>>18814044
If it's really shit, why doesn't the guide get updated?

>>18813688
Open your Anki collection file with something that can read SQLite databases.
The table revlog contains all your reviews.
The column ID is the unix timestamp of the review (cut off the last 3 digits, those are milliseconds)
If there are no entries between 1521936000 and 1522022400 you probably didn't do any reviews that day

>Japs call drawers a "引き出し"
Now that I think of it, the English word is also just as bad.

>>18814050
i dont acknowledge shit frankly and do you think i care about looking stupid いまさら lol

also if i disliked it i wouldnt do it and i love everyone

charitable work with disabled children is one of the most fulfilling things in life

you cant fade me

>>18814057
Why is it bad to turn an existing verb into a noun for an object that is perfectly described by that one verb?

>>18814057
Why did you make this post then? Are you trying to show off how retarded you are to everybody?

I really don't understand why Japanese porn sites put "wwwww" in their titles.

>>18813688
Maybe it's a winter/summer time thing?
Did you review your cards really late at night?

>>18814073
because boobies are funny haha

>>18814057
Japanese literally means "pull out"
And in english "to draw" can also mean "to pull out"

I'm not sure what's so bad about these words.

>>18814057
honestly drawers is a billion times better than ひきだし

>>18814078
>Pull out
No, it's the stem. So it means "puller outerer"

>>18814086
why?

>>18814087
>puller outerer

>>18814061
Ok so you basically admit your purpose here is to lower the overall post quality, you don't care that you look stupid and you call us all disabled.
Is that right?

>>18814088
cause i can fuckin shit in my drawers

i cant do nearly anything that dope with ひきだし

>>18814096
yeah you can also shit in your posts apparently wwwwww

>>18814048
>reciting nihongo isnt important but using nihongo is

If you're not using something you've heard before (and therefore know is correct) then you're making up your own incorrect version of Japanese that probably sounds like a parrot trying to make sentences it hasn't heard before (incoherent screeching)

>>18814051
The guide is shit, anyone can throw up a shitty guide on neocities then shill it to death.

>>18814094
no thats all wrong

honestly 中出し is a billion times better than 引き出し

>>18814101
Quit replying to him.

>>18814101
how do you "use" incorrect nihongo though then

>>18814076
It's not just boobies. Everything is funny, apparently.
>古本屋で魔術書を見つけてじゃんけんで負けたほうが女体化の魔法をかけられることになり、巨乳女子に女体化した弟を中出し近親相姦する兄ｗｗｗｗｗｗｗ
>変態男に諭吉三枚で買われた2人の男の娘が、直前になって怖くなった援交初体験の男の娘に黒ギャル男の娘が押し倒されておっさんを無視していちゃラブホモセックスしたったｗｗｗｗｗｗｗｗｗ
>部活を終えてクタクタになって帰ってきた沙都子が無防備にパンツを晒して眠ってしまい興奮したふたなり梨花が問答無用でアナルに中出しセックスしたったｗｗｗｗｗｗｗｗ【ひぐらし・エロ同人誌】
>男子にも取れない強烈なスパイクを打つ巨乳バレー女子が実は吸血鬼とサキュバスの間に生まれた子供で、年頃になり発情が抑えられなくなり事情を知っている幼なじみに精子を飲ませてもらうようになった件ｗｗｗｗｗｗｗｗ

>>18814099
youre not so bad yourself but we all prefer our own smell 一番に

>>18813988
I also practice being fluent in japanese. Every single day, I spend at least one hour being fluent in japanese.

I mean, honestly, what the fuck are they laughing at?

>>18814127
Seriously, what the FUCK are they laughing at?

>>18814116
Honestly those titles are pretty funny in my opinion ｗｗｗｗｗｗｗ

>>18814127
Your inability to read Japanese.

>>18814102
Too late, you already admitted to being just another shitposter in a sea of them
What a sad and pathetic loser

i mean honestly todays nihongo word of the day is 覆す

check back tomorrow for the next nihongo word of the day

>>18814145
I'm gonna learn Nihongo by mining the words of the day!

>>18814145
thanks mr. tango

>>18814145
Good word I read it

>>18814145
パパとママは間違えた
数字はもう覆せなくなった

>>18814160
wow it only took like 5 of these before someone figured it out

now if only they caught on to the more important things

so what are you gonna do to learn nihongo dude

>>18814161
you are welcome

>>18814166
great job

>>18814167
わたしもアニソン好きよ

>>18814183
First I'm gonna read more! Then I'm gonna jack off a lot so my brain associates "learning" with "sexual pleasure!"

>>18814196
超エピック計画だね!

>>18813208
>I'm not here for your toxic masculinity
Well I got bad news my bro

>>18814222
実は俺は「Ｊａｐａｎｅｓｅ：Ｔｈｅ　Ｍａｎｇａ　Ｗａｙ」をダウンロードした
今日も読んでいる

>>18814502
wayne p lammers先生はきっと喜ぶと思うよ

ever notice how い is just a little し with a line next to it

ever notice how え is just a little ん with a line on top of it and the top part goes to the left a little bit

ever notice how 鬱 is just a 木 with a fuckload of shit added to it

ever notice how わたしはゲイ

ever notice how 出撃 is just sortie but what the FUCK does sortie even mean

ever notice how そ is just a little て with a フ on top of it

Remember to report all off topic shitposting, even if its in japanese.

How do I report multiple posts at once?

>>18814702
出撃とは何の意味か分からん

http://eikaiwa.dmm.com/blog/41926/

How to translate English to Japanese more effectively.

>>18814721
Click the small box before the name and then the "Report" button at the bottom of the page

>>18814706
how do you report the entire thread

>>18814723
you may think you have gained the 最強の翻訳パワー looking at it from a japanese first perspective but they get it wrong fairly often

ゲイになりたい

>>18814831
お前はもうゲイ

>>18814846
何？！
ひでぶ～！！！

>>18814831
あきらめないで

自分を信じたらきっとあなたの花が咲くから

>>18811641
>>18811651
Fuck.

What's the nuance between 目 and 瞳? The latter is more physiological, more exact?

>>18811653
Assuming I have until 30 November, that left 232 days to achieve 2000 hours. ~8.6 hours of actual study a day. Fuck. That's impossible.

>>18814957
If you are in a desperate need of time, how about stop posting and start studying.

>>18814984
eslみーっけ

I am just beginning to learn Japanese (70 days non stop on Duolingo) but while watching anime I notice there are many ways to say "Sorry".

The one I remember are "sumimase", "gomendasai" and "wari", but perhaps there are even more.

When should I use these? Is one more formal? Is one for friends? Is one for women? Are there different levels of being sorry?

>>18809875
1st bubble:
>あー、いーんじゃないの？
2nd bubble:
>なあ
>オイ
3rd:
>チーム同士の抗争ん時ゃ
>敵イ拉致んのは基本だろーが

There are two friends fighting over what to do with the enemy they just defeated and this kansai ben speaking motherfucker says this. What the fuck does he mean?
What does that 時 mean there?

>>18815133
It's just a contraction of ときは I think. So something like "when there's a conflict between teams, isn't it normal to kidnap the enemy?"

>>18811588
Japanese dictionaries that don't include pitch accents? I agree, but it's free so don't complain.

>>18815122

>>18815245
Makes sense. Guess I'm way to tired for this.

>>18815122
gomendasai is a good one because it makes you look sympathetic for anyone that has to read your post

>>18813337
t. 難聴

>>18814031
Just double checking, but shouldn't だから be used here since ゲイ is a noun? Or is that a grammar rule that can just not be followed that strictly when speaking casually?

>>18814057
In French the word is ''tiroir'' from the verb ''tirer'' which means ''to pull''. So this is pretty much general convention.

>>18815503
gei is i adjective because is ends with I,
I never in front of DA

please learn basics of grammar before speaking sir

>>18815530
gei is na adjective because it's a foreign loanword and i adjectives are a closed class

>>18815533
foreigner word are NO adjectives or DEARU adjective sir

>>18815535
not if they're common enough

>>18815503
You're probably right.

>>18811704
use the AB guide

>>18811704
Someone complained about this same issue in these threads awhile ago. I'm not sure if he ever fixed it.

>>18811382
How can you mine a complex number of cards lol

>>18815624
I did. Apparently there's an issue with the implementation of WinAPI string functions in Wine. I found some obscure git repository with a fix and compiled it with mingw.
I with I could understand how exactly that tool works, but there aren't many comments in the source code, and the archive format itself is such a meme I can't find any documentation on it.
What the fuck is a FileJoin (FJSYS) archive?

Japanese mothers show modesty by telling other mothers that their son jacks off?

>>18815657

no they show modesty by jerking off their sons to help pass tests

>>18815657
>telling other mothers that their son jacks off?
No.

They're just "implying" their son jack off, geez.

お姉ちゃんの女はゲイ

お兄ちゃんのチンポをしゃぶるのはゲイですか

>>18815840
妹だから大丈夫わけだ

What the fuck, Jisho.org..

>>18815849
I think some eroge sentences get uploaded on tatoeba from time to time

>>18815848
ですが、あたしは男です

>>18815849
based tatoeba, keeping the normalfags away

>>18815866
玄-what?
Is that supposed to be 玄関 ?

>>18815857
>>18815866

you GUYS! that's NOT what it means! へんたい!!!!!

>>18815889
That's simplified kanji

>>18815897
>simplified
oh fuck, I though this only applied to Chinese

>>18815897
関 is already a simplified version of 關. How much more simple does it need to be?

>>18815904
Please be bait

Is うるさい the word for loudness in general?
Does a volume slider go from
しずか <ーーーーーー> うるさい ?

>>18815890
I don't know what else it could possibly mean.

>>18815906
Honestly that's just the simplified form of 門 with the little thingy added in, it's not like it's an official character or anything

>>18815913
I read it as leeching money off him, but I'll be honest: I'm not super confident about it.

>>18815906
>関 is already a simplified version of 關. How much more simple does it need to be?
Sometimes 14 strokes is just too much

>>18815866
So is she trying to say that it's her body's 玄関, or that they're in the entryway and someone might see them?

>太っ腹
That's a cute word. Got me a big ol 太っ腹.

>>18815922
are you retarded?

>>18815906
>How much more simple does it need to be?
More than 4 strokes should be illegal.

>>18815932
Is it so obvious?

>>18815930
Learning hard things like Japanese is easier as long as you're 太っ腹 to yourself!

>>18815904
中国大陸だと、关こう
日本だと、本当は 関 こうだけど、めんどうくさいので、その画像のように書くこともある

>>18815977
Handwritten kanji sure adds even more layer of complexity to these, the simplest of runes.

>>18815986
It's so backwards that calligraphy characters get called runes. I know it's just a colloquial thing, but it's so wrong. Runes were form over function, designed so they could easily be chiseled into shit. Eastern characters are the exact opposite, they had ink and brushes so they just went nuts with it, making so many complicated characters.

> 置いてある
What is this supposed to mean in this context? This is a store, they're supposed to _take_ things.

>>18816031
It means exactly what it looks like it means, unless you're physically unable to use a dictionary

>>18816035
The sentence doesn't make any sense to me no matter which translation of "置く" I try.
Unless they're talking about their shopping baskets.

>>18816031
I think I'm getting gayer and gayer. I used to be fine with it, but now seeing a cute comic filled with only really cute girls with no boys in sight infuriates me.

My lesbophobia is getting stronger

Yotsubato should not be recommended.

>>18816041
http://jisho.org/search/置く
https://thesaurus.weblio.jp/content/置いてある
https://djtarchive.neocities.org/bunpou/full_day.html#ある(2)

>>18816048
So, she's just saying that the magazine is in the store.
Being a dekinai is tough.

>>18816046
what do you recommend
I will read it right now

>>18816057
ドラえもん
ラ
え
も　　　　
ん

>>18816046
Why?

>>18816070
Most people say not to reccomend it because of slang but honestly just read it if you want something simple

>>18816089
Well, the slang does piss me off sometimes, but it's decipherable in most cases.

>>18816100
I don't mind the slang much at all, and for what I might care yotsuba is too cute to care
On the topic of recommending to learners, it's good to try to read at least, makes you use some critical thinking skills to decipher it

>>18816110
Pic unrelated I suppose?
Everything on that page is covered in Tae Kim.

>>18816133
yeah, I was just posting a page I liked.

>>18816110
Damn, I want to lure Fuuka into my van by promising to give her nice things

>>18816110
oh no, is this doujin where Yotsuba got bullied by Bad People

>>18816068
learn math

>>18816203
sexualizing the yotsuba even implicitly is against 4chan's hidden global rules

>>18814074
It is that day, yes.
>>18814054
Thanks, I'm gonna try that later.

>>18816203
no it's chapter 1, like very beginning. That's why Fuuka is chasing Yotsuba

>>18816214
does moot know jap though

Where to pirate vn

>>18811332
It turns out that japanese toilets have holes in the stalls from which you can suck japanese knowledge from a hose!

>>18811588
cuz you're 短小

>>18816206
There was an actual book series based around Doraemon teaching Nobita mathematics. There's a volume on the basic functions like addition, then there's one on graphs, there's one on...calculus? Did you know about this? It's not drawn by the original artists.

Also there's the compilation series, the encyclopedia series and so many more. ドラえもん 最高うううう!!!

>>18816214
Then maybe she shouldn't be so damn sexy?

>>18816214
>bullied=sexualized
Now who's got the dirty mind?

Ena is best girl though.

>>18816252
What's so sexy about Yotsuba?

>>18816251
Is there one about tensor analysis.
I'd appreciate.

>>18816263
>Why are lolis sexy
tough question

>>18816266
Because they're pictured scantily clothed and having the whore face?

>>18816224
よつばと！は

３巻くらいまで読めるのに

そこから先

かんじをつかわなくなるからよめなくなるよ

かんじをつかってないとかなりきびしいのできをつけたほうがいいよ

でも

しまうーは

よまないわけにはいかない

>>18816269
The whole point of lolis is the innocence brah

>>18816283
People like you should be forced to weal a huge red label tbqh

>>18816291
It's not my fault women age like milk.

>>18816271
>かんじをつかってないとかなりきびしいので
どのくちがいう

>>18816306
Take that back, women age like wine.

>>18816323
Like corked wine

There are great woman in all age ranges up to ~70

>>18816330
> he can't appreciate a cake
Shit taste is incurable. Keep preying on kids.

>>18816338
Only if elves or other long lived races are involved.

>>18816344
It's not "preying"
Everyone enjoys a good game of struggle cuddle.

>>18816316
ぬかしおりますわ

>>18816346

I really enjoy listening to erotic voice works as practice! Last one was about my nee-san who helped me relax by giving me a handjob (this is only the first track, I'm sure we're gonna fuck later!). She kept touching my nipples and telling me that there's no shame in enjoying that. What a nice woman!

What were the first things you read in Japanese, DJT?

What are you reading now?