/jp/ - Otaku Culture

>>18311524
I have heard this before. It's apparently because of the two hidden fairies to the right of the play screen.

I've finally 1cc'd EoSD Normal. It was my first 1cc so I played safe and carpet-bombed poor Remilia. The last spellcards I captured was Luna Clock and Star of David. When I polish my skills I return to EoSD and give Sakuya and Remilia a fair fight.
Tried Extra stage and got my ass kicked by Cranberry Trap (I probably should save Extra for later).
Also, this retexture patch is shit, how can I get rid of it (it was already installed when I downloaded game)? I like original textures more.

But for now I'll start playing PCB. Is Sakuya good in this game? I liked Sakuya very much in EoSD (especially her Marionette spellcard, I died to this shit so much since I wanted to dodge it without bombing). Sorry for the blogpost, I just got into Touhou recently and loved it.

>>18315664
Congrats on the 1cc, and glad to see you're enjoying the games.
As for PCB, Sakuya is definitely the best character in the game, both A and B shots included. I prefer B, though I'd say A is more beginner friendly. Either way, four bombs per life is very nice.

>>18315664
SakuyaA and B are both really good. She starts with four bombs which already gives her a decent edge over the other playable characters. A is extremely beginner friendly due to her homing and B while it takes a bit to get used to is one of the stronger shot types.

Shou is funny

>>18315664
Good work! And yes, Sakuya A in PCB is widely considered the best in the game. Glad to see you're enjoying yourself, make sure you never give up.

Is there some tool or something to change how much season level you start with in HSiFS's Practice mode? As far as I can tell you can't change it within the game and you're not going to enter every level with an empty release bar so it sucks for making routes.

>>18316969
that's why i start levels in practice with a bomb for the season, depending on season/difficulty.

>>18316969
man up and play the game without releases

>>18317104
I like having more than three lives for the entirety of the game

>>18316969
SpoilerAL.
>>18317116
Fake and gay, Without releases you still the same amount of resources that EoSD gives which is good enough.

Thinking of getting back into these games after quitting at UFO. Is LoLK really the hardest now?

>>18317311
For some definition of hard, yes.

>>18317311
It depends on whether you abuse the extremely exploitable resource system or not.

Neko Project debugger just released https://www.romhacking.net/utilities/1380/
What pc98 hacks do you want to see?

>>18317431
I would like to see a fix for MS's extra english patch for starters.

I'm cur

>>18315429
I'm currently going through StB sequentially and just finished scene 8-7

Usually it takes me around 150 shots (or lower) per scene but this one put me through pure hell

Please tell me the rest of the game isnt as bad as this, I don't think i can handle any more of this bullshit

>>18317760
you'll cry blood anon

Fuck "Ephemerality 137", literally luckshit spell, 0 skill involved.

Is there a written guide for Junko? I can keep practicing or watching replays but I don't get the strategy besides most of her stuff

I did around 20 scenes from level 9, 10 and 11 combined in DS for the first time in less than 3 hours. Im so fucking gud I doubt there is any other 2hu player who learnt this fast.
Git gud scrubs.

>>18318395
>>>/v/

>>18318447

>>18318456
I don't care if you are drunk fuck off to /v/ retarded nigger faggot.

>>18318461
Fucking scrub got so mad kek

>>18318475
OF COURSE I'M MAD, FUCK YOU RETARD

>>18315429
The only roadblock is myself, played for 4 digit hours now.

Nothing has come of it

>>18318700
what are you playing and what's you goal?

>>18315664
do you have any tips? I have 1cced EoSD a long time ago with 5 lives but I want to legitamately 1cc it with default lives since its my favorite title in the series. But im bad :^(

This is a good night for an IN run huh?

Just got my first 1cc (on PCB normal). What game should I go for next?

>>18318700
Burning yourself out is not a good idea mate.

>>18319352
The one you gave up on before you start playing PCB.
If PCB is your first game then try extra stage.

>>18319212
I'm too new to give any real tips, but I'll try. I tried not to waste any lives until Patchouli fight (if I died to Meiling I usually just restarted). On Patchouli I tried to die only once. Use bombs generously, you have 30 after all. Try to memorize enemy spawn points on stage 4 (thanks to that I could relax on this stage almost completely). Use Practice Mode to get comfortable with stages 4 and 5 (and bosses of course).

>>18318061
Kill the little wisps dude.

>>18319212
Get SpoilerAL and use it to start practicing the Spell Cards which you find difficult. If you can capture something 15-20 times in practice, you'll be more then ready for it during a clear attempt on Normal.

Stage 4 is almost entirely simple streaming, watch some replays to learn a good route if you don't want to figure out yourself.

Learn the Stage 5 top route and mid boss Sakuya graze if you don't know them already. They trivialize the entirety of the stage until the actual Sakuya fight, and they also work on the higher difficulties which saves you time if you ever decide to move up in difficulty.

In general you want a memorized route for every stage so you know exactly what to do for each section though.

I did it, I've finally Normal 1CC'ed my first Touhou! Remilia honestly wasn't _that_ hard (at least compared to Yuyuko, as I'm trying to 1CC PCB as well), but I've spent too much time on the last spell lurking and dodging in the opposite corner, almost failing the run. And I died twice to Patchy's lasers for literally no reason, as stage 4 is either breeze or rape for me. Sakuya troubled me a bit, but I bombed through the hard parts and captured the rest.

I'll try to 1CC PCB and MoF next, but I wish Sakuya's focused speed wasn't this fast.

>>18319636
>Player Penalty *0.2
C'mon anon, you're better than that.

>>18319636
>player penalty

You didn't really normal 1cc. Try it again with default lives

>>18319765
>>18319647

Damn, I think I've fucked around in settings when I've started playing 2hu and didn't realize what was that. Well, I can do that again.

>>18318700
Don't use continues or practice modes.
Use all of your bombs on each life.
Anyone can beat normal in a week or two on nearly any game just by doing this.

>>18319647
>>18319765
It's a Normal 1cc. Just one with a changed lifecount.
I agree that default clears should be the way to go and it's good that he's going to aim for better, but no need to brush off his accomplishment.

>>18319800
Don't take it literally. Anyone who's played for 4 digit hours and "didn't get anything done" usually means that they're playing for score and that while their PB is high enough to be way beyond what 99.999% of the playerbase can hope to achieve, it's still not high enough to matter on the scoreboards.

>>18319932
A 1cc is absolutely meaningless and worth nothing if it doesn't use default lives.

School, a shitty stomach, the weather, and energy after school are roadblocks in the way from me getting a goal I've wanted for 6 months now.

>>18320819
What is the goal?

>>18320804
That's silly. Just refer to a run that uses more than default lives in another category.
A lot of good players have started with 1ccs that used more than default lives. It's just a crutch that some need to grow out of. And if it's needed, there's nothing wrong with that.

>>18315602
Thanks for the answer, that's really wierd. Especially because it's not like her homing amulets are veering off to the side, they're just acting like no enemies are on the screen at all.

>>18317104
The proper thing to do is just play without bombs, that way you can still get lives and score with the seasonal mechanics, but don't have such a large number of survival abilities.

>>18321100
NB is still too easy. The standard step up from regular clears is NR. Even if you play like shit you'll still very easily get the 40m extend, which (provided you don't fuck up lily white) is still a total of 8 extra lives, which is more than enough for a clear.

I've been trying to get a PCB 1CC on Hard with ReimuA, since I was able to do SakuyaA, but I'm getting stuck on Youmu. While I can get to Yuyuko, I don't have enough lives left to survive through the fight to finish a run, because Youmu just sucks all my bombs and lives. Are there any strategies for her first two and last non-spells? I almost always have to bomb through the two big walls of fuck at the beginning. The part with the aimed blue bullets and red bullets isn't bad, just move slightly. I can handle the walls of fuck on Normal most of the time.
There's also Flashing Slash Formation of Karma Wind, of which I've captured the Normal version but the Hard version just seems impossible. The rest of her spell cards I have a strategy for, I just need to get good at executing it.

>>18321875
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EcOMZQAW7j4

Do what this person does for the non spells.

>>18321935
That guy is actually worse on Youmu than I am, except for her last spell. I already do what he does for her non-spells, but I still have to use a bomb since I can't get her to aim the second wave off the screen. I'll just keep practicing then.

Youmu's cards in shoot the bullet are just unfun and too RNG in my opinion. the slow-mo during the attacks just makes the cards take forever.

>clear LOLK Legacy 1cc
>get the bad ending

What the fuck ZUN?

>>18322266
Who are you quoting?

>>18319932
>>18320992
I can spy ZM posts from a mile away.

Jesus fucking christ Mountain of Faith Hard is insane, give me an easier game to beat on Hard mode. I already beat PCB on my first try, and since MoF is typically recommended to newbies as the next-easiest game I expected to have some success with it as well, but I guess that advice only applies to easy mode.

>>18322557
And sorry for the run-on sentence.

>>18322557
If you've done Normal already, EoSD and IN shouldn't be too bad.

>>18322557
TD and EoSD have easier hard modes.

>>18322564
Alright I'll switch to EoSD.
And yeah, I've beaten all the games on Normal and most of the Extras. I've just been banging my head in MoF Hard for a few weeks now, and am getting really sick of either losing a few resources early on to shit like Hina and ultimately Game Over'ing to Aya, or getting a really good run going only for Kanako to chew through all of my lives long before I get close to her final spell even.

>>18322580
I might try TD after EoSD then. Thanks.

>>18322543
Oh boo, you got me.

>>18322564
>>18322580
Okay I tried EoSD, and it seems far more manageable than MoF. Got to Patchouli's last spell before Game Over'ing, and I had barely used any of my bombs and died in a bunch of stupid places. Should be easy to fix most of those deaths in later playthroughs now that I generally know what's coming.

Now I finally have a little bit of understanding of what is meant by "book hell".

scarlet meister is such a bully

there are fewer touhou hells than not being able to properly express your rage in a proper outlet

If I had 1 more life, I would've beaten Byakuren.




Before the bossfight, I got hit by leaving nueball.

>>18322881
exhentai.org

>>18317838
holy fucking shit you weren't kidding anon, literally took 4 hours of straight rage to finally beat
I can't even call this spell a "good" challenge; instead of relying on skill it's literally just let rng dictate whether or not some girl's balls wall me or not
on the bright side, i beat it and got the 66 clear today, so i have a lot to celebrate about

>>18322557
Literally got that 1cc yesterday, you just need to bomb whenever necessary. Kanako's last is in my opinion one of the easier spells compared to other games.
http://replays.gensokyo.org/download.php?id=44515

>>18324929
Use your bombs

>>18322881
Touhou is not for you if you get unusually angry while playing it.

>>18322557
I got that 1cc. The first time I expected the same as you, an easy game. MoF is easy because you can trivialize it with bombs. Since I like saving my bombs, MoF kicked my ass on hard. Bomb whenever needed.

>>18323930
There are players that can clear the card pretty consistently, so it is actually more about skill.

How do I get better at making webms? From my experience anything longer then 30 seconds is just too much and ends up too big to be shown at a decent bitrate.

>>18324929
if you're on your last life, bomb the moment you win, just in case.

>>18323930
>>18325370
It's about skill. It took me over 2000 photos to clear it the first time, but right now I couldn't even say what the problem was (lack of reading ability though I guess). I can pretty much clear it every other attempt.

Why does LOLK Marisa exist? Does ZUN have brain problems?

>>18326842
Probably. Who knows where all that beer is going.

is 360 pad good for touhou? any experienced anons here?

>>18327063
>pad
No.

Just did EoSD Extra, my last one. Not really sure what I want to do next, GFW and LoLK Legacy seem like obvious choices, but I might just throw my body at Hard difficulties until I find something I enjoy.

>>18327063
it's "okay" but not enough for really precise positioning.

Get a arcade stick if you really need a better pad replacement.

>>18327253
Shoot the Bullet is pretty fun and challenging.

Stuck on Normal Marisa LOLK Legacy. It's just so bad :(. Have gotten Hard Legacy clears no issue.

>>18327325
Fuck ZUN for what he did to her in 15

>>18327364
Marisa a shit so I don't see the problem

why is it that often I'll get progressively worse at the game the more I play it at a time? for whatever reason, my best runs are usually the first try or the first in that day

I just experienced this right now on clownpiece's first spell; I nearly beat it about 3 times in a row, then I just kept getting killed in the first few seconds

>>18327642
Interestingly enough, my best runs happen when I'm sleep deprived and its 2 am.

>>18327642
You warm up and have immediate experience from playing just before, which could help you - or make you play worse if you get "bad experience" or remind yourself of bad habits you forgot to apply on your first play.

>>18327270
Swinging a huge lever several cm is more precise than shifting your thumb a few mm.

>>18327642
Irritation with your failures makes you play worse.

>>18327818
Quit being ignorant, my seimitsu stick has a very little dead zone and engage distances. My 360 pad stick feels like it's broken in comparison. Plus arcarde sticks are digital with switches in them and not analog like most gamepads, just a like a mechanical keyboard.

>>18327925
Gamepad d-pads aren't analog, they're usually rubber dome switches being manipulated with a thumb pad of various shapes equipped with 4 pegs that press the rubber dome.

Will the photography games make me a better player or are they just for fun???

>>18327954
I know that. I am talking about the sticks on gamepads. Who in the right mind would use a 360's d-pad for anything? I have also used saturn d-pads for touhou as well and they are quite overrated, at least for me.

>>18327980
Shoot the Bullet will improve your general skill level. The game forces a good mixture of fundamental skills such as streaming, micro, precision unfocused movement and so on and often requires very good execution of them to clear a scene. There's also a ton of raw dodging and you'll eventually be forced to get good at reading whether you want to or not because some of the later levels demand it.

Double Spoiler has a larger focus on gimmick patterns where you need to figure out the proper execution and then of course do it. It'll still help somewhat but I don't think it's nearly as helpful compared to the other game.

Fuck I suck at these games so much.
At least I finally got that ReimuA hard 1cc I've been grinding for the last few days. It didn't feel right only completing Hard with Sakuya because of starting with 4 bombs. It turns out that I actually need those 4 bombs because I'm awful, so I started border breaking more than I do with Sakuya. Somehow I managed to make it, fucked up big time with Yuyuko's last survival spell or I would have had 4 lives left.

Well I did it, after about a week of playing I cleared all the stages in ISC. I'm sad that it's over. I can't even begin to imagine doing this game without items, the people who can do it are fucking mad men I tell you. Not sure if the single "Congraulations" screen is allowed here so I'll post this as proofs, not like I have any reason to lie anyway.

What does /jp/ think of ISC anyway? I think it's pretty fucking good, game is balanced for both normal 1cc scrubs like me and presumably veterans who can lunatic 1cc the games alike and the spell cards and items have a lot of variety to them, this game pretty much never gets old from start to finish.

>>18328890
Do we even get mad about endings being posted?
That meme is long dead and it's only a thing on steam or places where people don't play the games as much, but everyone here has already seen most of them anyways.
Congratulations anon, I personally love scene games and I would love if ZUN or anybody else made more.

>>18329256
there is a fan game named spellcard reversed or some shit like that, it's kinda short but if still a solid game, not as hard as ISC thought

>>18329256
>we
Who's we?
>That meme is long dead
Creator's word is a law and you sound like someone who don't respect it.

By the end of Feburary, I'm gonna have 1cc'd PCB on hard. If I don't have it done by then, please call me a giant fucking loser.
Wish me luck!

>>18329390
Alright anon! Actually, let's get our goal together this month!
By the end of February, I'm gonna have a NB 1cc'd IN on lunatic. If I don't have it done by then or change shottypes, please call me a giant fucking loser.
This way 1 of us will have it's goal at least, if we both fail we can be losers together!

philosophy of a hated person and genetics of the subconscious can both go fuck themselves, particularly the latter
that's all

>>18329256
Thanks for the congrats, it means a lot. I don't agree with the ending rule either but you gotta respect the wishes of the users here.

>>18329306
>Spellcard reversed
>mfw
Thanks anon, downloading that right now, it does look pretty good

>>18330040
Those spells are both the same every time. I'm trying to clear LOLK Lunatic with Marisa, you have yet to feel true pain.

>>18330278
>>18327325

>>18323047
Another day, another attempt. If I had bombed during 3rd stage instead of stupidly dying there, I would have one more life.

I got hit as Byakuren was in the middle of exploding. That was my last life.

>>18323930
Oh, you think that's bad?
Wait till you face this same spellcard in Double Spoiler.
This one is easy version in comparison.

>instead of relying on skill it's literally just let rng dictate whether or not some girl's balls wall me or not

The skill here is being able to read ahead of time and see the incoming bullets.
You need to be able to predict if you'll get walled or not ahead of time and switch lanes if you see an incoming wall, instead of praying to the RNG gods and hope for the best.

>>18321935
Pathetic. And then despite completely cheating out the nonspells.he still died to the second one.
Double pathetic.

>>18321974
>I already do what he does for her non-spells, but I still have to use a bomb since I can't get her to aim the second wave off the screen

Learn how to play properly instead of trying to cheat your way out like a little bitch.

>>18328016
Using another fighting controller for a shooter. Thanks for proving my point.

>>18330752
show me a LOLK Lunatic run that does Sagumes third card properly. Most do not

>>18331264
The shotgun strat is legit tho

how hard are the pofv extras

if they are not even a challenge i mind as well go for it

>>18331422
Not even hard. If you can 1cc normal you can definitely do extra.

>>18328115
Here

>>18329390
If you can do 1ccs on Normal consistently thenn Hard isn't as much of a step up as in other games. To make it even easier, you can abuse border breaks more since there will usually be more bullets on screen.

>>18325079
In my case I've went from getting extremely angry when doing badly and sweating from the pressure to have acold sweat and I learned to keep it calmed and cool. And I think I've seen several with the same situation I was that surpassed it so suggesting to quit is not a good idea.

>>18331406
Its a safespot and probably an oversight by ZUN. It's no different than misdirecting Youmus nonspells.

>>18315429
Orin is and has always been my roadblock.

How the fuck does she keep kicking my ass this hard
At this rate I'll finish HSiFS first before SA

>>18330752
how the fuck if misdirecting cheating?

>>18329306
>>18330201
There is another called 战斗天邪鬼　～ Shatter All Spell Card. It's my personal favorite scene game. The difficulty is higher than that of StB, DS, and ISC no item. It's a good challenge. There are a lot of puzzle-like scenes that are very satisfying once you figure them out. I did a no item run before and it was really fun. The game even includes some PC-98 characters which is a plus. There are some Cave-style scenes in the later stages, which I'm not that fond of, but the rest is decent. Can't comment on the story since there is no translated version.

http://www.mediafire.com/download/kkuo814dcwa4bf6/Shatter_All_Spell_Card%7E1.00a.rar

>>18333276
Unless you're playing Lunatic no bomb no release no miss no vertical no horizontal no focus pacifist, it's cheating.

>>18333308
you are that faggot from some time ago, I get it

>>18333327
I don't know who "that faggot" is but I'm not him. I can't even play Lunatic beyond Stage 3 or so, I was joking with that post.

>>18333338
my bad, there was a fag saying the same shit but unironically and thought you were him

>>18333378
You're either very stupid or mistook someone that was joking.

>>18332787
Shotgunning there is intended, much like standing right in front Utsuho on Ten Evil Stars.
Safespots are fine btw.

>>18333881
>Shotgunning there is intended
[citation needed]

>>18333910
>Orb Sign ''Shotgun Coronation of the Gods''

>>18333946
I appreciate the smartassery, but that's the Normal difficulty one.

>>18333993
It's always called the same.

>>18334062
Secondaries get out

>>18334062
at least the wiki fag, you are just fooling yourself

>>18323952
>>18325242
I was bombing whenever I had to, the problem is that I would then end up running low on power and unable to damage bosses and it would just continue spiralling downward. Like I'd finish Aya with 1.20 power, need to bomb to survive the beginning of Stage 5 because I can't kill the enemies, then have no options for recovering. And dying at that point means I can only recover to 3.xx power from the power items dropped on death, at which point I'm still in the predicament of being too weak to effectively damage stuff, and the cycle continues until I'm out of lives.

>>18329256
>we
Don't lump me in with you. And it doesn't matter what we want, it's about respecting ZUN's wishes.
>That meme is long dead
Was never a meme, and never died.

Does the victory screen really qualify as an ending, though?

It's literally just some text telling you "you're super player."

>>18334301
you shouldn't see that if you are ot a super player

>>18334308
Good point.

anyone played alternative sphere? game doesn't save my settings

>>18334308
I'm not a superplayer but I managed to grind my way through the game.

>>18335360
Wrong thread man. But to answer you question.
You might have to make a separate folder for user settings.

>>18335376
If ZUN tells you you're a super player, then you're a super fucking player.

>>18335387
Fuck. Thank you ZUN.

Portal closed.

>>18330278
same
the feeling is mutual

>>18335399
you deserve every super of that player anon, GJ!

>>18332909
How can you clear Clownpiece but hate Orin? Orin is fun and easy compared to the clown.

Safespot Orin first nonspell. Zombie fairies is simple, you may need 1 bomb max. Her second nonspell is easy as long as you stay in the middle of the screen and line up with the blue bullets. Her next spell is Spleen Eater I think? It's the same every time and her easiest card. Then you've got her third nonspell, tough and takes one bomb. Finally you've got her hardest card, might take 1-2 bombs and a death. That leaves you with her final card, it's got low HP so shotgun and bomb

You should be able to clear Orin in one death

How do I do Sagumes last spellcard? I try to get between two lasers and then tap once or twice to the middle if the screen to avoid the other lasers.

But it seems completely random and sometimes she decides to fire a laser right down the middle.

Why is Hatate 10-4 so fucking retarded. It looks like DS was designed for Aya and Hatate is just shoehorned in. The rest of the game is a breeze with both characters though, took me only a day to beat the 10-12 and extra stage with both characters, and only went above 200 shots once or twice. Most were cleared in less than 40.

>>18319636
>>18319780

Well I've done it for real now, 100% genuine 1CC Normal. Rammed into a fairy on stage 3, which cracked me up. Almost perfected Patchy-chan (bombed on Lava Cromlech due to being walled in). Died twice to Curse of Vlad because those knifes overload my brain, and I really don't like bombing because muh spellcard captures ye I know its wrong at my skill level

Thanks for the support anyways. I'll go practice PCB now.

Is grinding Lunatic LoLK Pointdevice NB a good practice strategy?

>>18330310
Jesus Christ finally. I got hit at the end as well, but I had more lifes prepared this time.

>>18336583
>Power 1.20
At that power level you had a difficult task, but I see you pulled through. Congratulations.

>>18336084
Try and stay beneath Sagume when she moves, the lasers are less dense below her. Also don't dodge at the very bottom of the screen, but instead a little bit up from there.
Other than that, it's mostly skill.

>>18336715
As I said, I literally died the moment I finished the final spellcard. It's a hard but fair one, I wish UFO had proper spell practice so that I could get a better grasp on it.

>>18336546
Sure, if you don't get stuck on Seiran like me.

>>18334275
I bet you're one of the people that uses the plot only patches.

>>18337193
>the plot only patches
Do I want to know what kind of other patches are there?

>>18337193
>plot only patch
Should I ask?

>>18333284
Oh wow dude thanks a lot for this, I'll check it out too once I'm done with Reverse. Glad to know there's more than enough ISC to go around.

AHAHAHHAAHAHAHA YES FUCK YOU ZUN

This felt like a Lunatic clear. Who is better for extra: Sanae or Marisa? I don't want to cheese with Reisen

How does beating STB/DS compare to the mainline games? would clearing them be equal to like a normal 1cc?

>>18337521
I 1cc'd all the games on normal but I couldn't get past stage 7 or 8 on StB. ISC though is very doable with items.

>>18337469
A patch where all danmaku patterns are removed from the game so a "player" can enjoy reading the lore and dialogue throughout their "1cc".

>>18337521
I'd say its worth about a LoLK lunatic 1cc in terms of amount of time the game takes. 3-5 hours playtime I think.

>>18336546
What character do you intend to use for your Legacy run?

STB really jumped up in the amount of bullshit when I got to Level 6. Before then, I could get through most spells with just skill alone. Now it's like some LoLK or Extra stage bullshit where the enemy comes from the bottom of the screen and kills you before you know what hit you. Meiling's spell cards were fun on Level 5 though.

>>18338057
I felt the difficulty plateu'd at 5,6, and 7. 8+ though is a bitch. I'm like 1-2 scenes away from beating the game.

Someone please tell me that it doesn't get worse than this.

>>18338304
There's 21 more scenes until you've beaten the game.

>>18325370
>>18326763
>>18330688
Yeah i don't doubt that some degree of skill is involved, i think i was just upset that i spent such a long ass time just to complete one spell.

i dont know when it's recommended to tackle stb, but i think im doing it pretty early (pic related). i heard it improves your overall skill so i wanted to at least give it a shot, and then i got addicted so now im on the road to 85 scenes.
Only 11 more to go, i hope EX is more gentle than stage 10.

>>18338354
I thought 10-5 was difficult but that's probably because im bad at streaming.
It's definitely not as bad as 9-6, though.

Does anyone else struggle with Marisa in MoF? I've managed to 1cc with all three of Reimu's shots in the past few weeks but I always seem to die by overdodging into adjacent bullets. It's nowhere near as bad in the other games I've played.

>>18338779
Marisa is a lot better in MOF than she is in other games, and that's excluding the power glitch.

>>18338690
I only have 1cc on normal and I just got to 66 scenes cleared in StB like 2 hours ago. I like photos clearing bullets more then the bombs from the main games.

>>18339031
She's probably better in 16 than in 10.

>>18339062
doubt it, MoF's marisa is pretty good all around, while in HSiFS she is only good for her subshoot as ,long as it don't glitch

>>18339031

I have no complaints about her shots, I just struggle with how sensitive the movement seems to be in this game.

I decided to clear out some STB scenes. I love this game.

>>18338779
Marisa's cursed for me. I do significantly worse when I play her, even compared to shot types that are very similar to hers.

How do I do Doremy EX last card? And don't say play as Reisen.

>>18339470
Literally her easiest card.

>>18339470
>Play as Reisen
Capturing that card gets you a life, so even as Reisen you need to capture it.

>>18339512
Her first card is way way easier.

>>18336386
Nice work anon!

Princess Tenko is supposed to be an easy spell, right? It's been stopping me in my tracks for a while.

>>18339204
This is one of the weirdest charts I've seen. Why spend all that time on the side games, PoFV and LoLK while barely touching the easier games?

>>18340006
Personally I got my LoLK clear very early in my career, albeit with Reisen. Pointdevice Mode is really good for getting better at the game.

>>18340016
I got my LoLK clear last week, at the risk of developing a stomach ulcer and going bald.
I don't feel like touching that game again for a long time. It's the only Touhou game that really makes me mad, something about Pointdevice mode just breaks me. I don't get that with games with similar mechanics like STB, DS, and ISC though. It's unfortunate too, since Clownpiece and Hecatia are some of my favorite post-SA 2hus. I can't even get to Hecatia on her Extra stage yet.

>>18340026
Personally I found getting a 1cc easy after beating PD with the 4 characters. My next Reisen run was a 1cc.

I'm still trash and can't 1cc with Sanae or the others yet, though I haven't really put too much effort into that.

>>18340002
you need to learn the right timming for when to move, not sure if you are aware already but you can stay inside Ran a little bit after she teleports at where you are, once she teleports move a little bit to any side to misdirect the lassers since they are aimed at you, and then just wait warmly 'till she teleports again

>>18340042
So I shouldn't move too much? Wouldn't the burst of bullets that spawn from where she's at kill me?

>>18340047
you want to misdirect the lassers to one side and then move back above ran, of course taking distance from ran is necessary otherwise it will kill you, if you are confident 1/4 of the screen should be fine, but if you want to stay further it's fine too

>>18340002
>>18340047
My strategy for that spell involves moving a whole bunch. You basically want to move in a rectangular pattern around the whole screen. Always move in the same direction (clockwise or counter-clockwise) to make it easier to memorize. Finally, you want to guide Ran's butterfly shots so that you can move unfocused horizontally or vertically through them, this lets you get to the other side of the screen before she teleports again. Just make sure you're making use of the entire screen and not staying near the bottom. If I execute this strategy perfectly, then I can do the entire spell unfocused with ReimuA. Without a homing shot the spell is harder, you might have to time it out.

>>18340034
Honestly I'm not even sure if my PD clear counts because I pause buffered to get frame perfect inputs on Junko since I was out of bombs. I plan on doing a run with less pseudo-cheating with Reisen or Reimu the next time I get motivation up to touch LoLK.

>>18340068
>>18340079
I'm not sure I totally get it, but I'll give those a shot. Which bullets are the butterfly danmaku, though?

>>18340090
They look like this. Sorry about the GIF, it's not animated, I got it from the Japanese strategy wiki.

>>18340100
Are the wings there always there? I never noticed them. Thank you.

>>18340105
The wings are always there, but the hitbox of the bullet is the big blue-white circle in the middle so they're surprisingly easy to dodge. Basically the point of the wings is to look pretty and trick you into thinking the bullets have a bigger hitbox than they actually do.

UFO is really hard because getting the UFOs while theyre red and they dont go off screen is really tough and it makes me have to traverse in dangerous territory. OUCH! How do you guys deal with this?

>>18340470
by making a route and learning when it's the safest momento to aproach an UFO aswell by learning when they turn of the desired colour and are the closest to the player
Another strategy is maxing lives from stage 1 - 3 and focus on bombs after that

>>18340470
>really tough and it makes me have to traverse in dangerous territory.
By gitting the heck gud, that's how people deal with it.

>>18340470
by accepting that sometimes you can't always get what you want
(or by routing)

The feeling of being able to just open up a specific game and reliably 1cc hard mode on my first go of the night is amazing, makes the suffering of getting to this point completely worth it.

>>18338509
complete game ≠ beat game

>>18339566
If you already have shields up when you enter that card it doesn't matter if you get hit on it. As long as you don't press X or die during that last card, you get your life.

>>18340089
Pause buffering will make anything you do non legit buddy

>>18339470
Still can't cap this consistently. And if you don't cap it you miss out on a 1UP. And it's trivial for Reisen and fucked for everyone else.

Tempted to just get SpoilerAL and grind it out 100 times. Fuck ZUN

>>18342068
Also if you try to bomb before she casts the card she gains defense and you end up doing even less damage. Reisen doesn't have this problem of course. The programming decisions in this game are questionable.

>>18342068
OK I practiced it 10 times and it's simple, bullets aren't dense if you are just slightly behind the circling part. Still stupid how unbalanced the shot types are.

>>18342068
>>18342151
>>18342248
Just use Reisen, there's no shame in picking the best shot type. I beat Flandre with Marisa A, is there shame in that because it's the best?

>>18342684
Jeez you weren't kidding. Just used Reisen for the first time and got a Hard 1CC no sweat, think I could do Lunatic too. Completely fucking broken

ZUN called me Super Player holy shitto.
I clear double spoiler in 21 hours, is that normal?

>>18343681
*cleared

>Like in the earlier Touhou games, on dying the number of bombs will reset to the initial value of 3 bombs.

Why the fuck? 12 and 13 didn't have this retarded mechanic, you could gather up bombs and not worry about losing all of them when you die.
But then 14,15, and 16 went back to it.

>>18344191
DDC and HSiFS would be way too easy if they had that mechanic because of how many bombs you can pick up in them.

>>18344191
well then don't die with bombs in-stock in the first place.

I had given up on EoSD Extra for a while, I just tried it and captured Kagome Kagome on my first try. While I didn't complete the stage (because I messed up a bunch before Flan and Maze of Love just destroys me), it seems like I'm actually getting better from grinding PCB Hard so much.

>>18336386
>Died twice to Curse of Vlad because those knifes overload my brain
I'm another scrub who has not yet attained a Normal 1cc yet, but I do that card by not really worrying about the knives. It's disorienting to look at their trajectory, yes, but the only thing you really need to know is that one of them seems to be aimed at where you were the moment they were fired, so as long as you pay attention to what direction they were fired from and move a bit out of the way with every wave you can focus on the movement of the red bullets.

Not really mainline related but does anyone here know the name of this fangame?

Do you prefer games with or without the spell card practicer?

>>18344914
With.

>>18344914
PCB has no spell practice but you can get it anyway with spoileral. So not sure how to answer that.

>>18344914
I used to say without but the reality is everyone uses them once you get to Lunatic. So you might as well put it in because people will hack it if it's not there.

>>18344914
with. If I'm already good with a stage it just feels like a waste of time going through it just for one chance at a card.

>>18344864
野望の幻想郷
And the updated version: 野望の幻想郷リアルタイム

http://chiyuudou.com/products.html

>>18344914
I prefer games to have it. There's no good reason for it not to be an option in MoF, SA, UFO and LoLK.

>>18345065
Thank dude

>>18345014
How exactly do you do that in SpoilerAL? I got it and the translation but it just has a list of cheatcodes for me.

>>18337193
What in God's name would make you assume that about me? If I'm arguing in favour of respecting ZUN's wishes why the fuck would I remove the gameplay in his games?

>>18345065
>>18344864
found a download link from a few years ago after searching the archives, should be the most recent version, dunno though as I'm downloading it myself
http://www.mediafire.com/file/6ldrbwlzmjeev4h/Gensokyo+Ambitions+Combined.rar

>>18345096
Are you using the 4,6 ssg?
http://www44.atpages.jp/~youthia/thssg.html
If you want the english patch I can link it or upload it.

>>18345273
I guess I must not be, since my SSG folder only has one for 7

>>18344191
TD did have it

>>18345273
And I assume my english patch or download is kind of fucked, too. I'd need the english patch for the ssgs too, yeah.

>>18345346
No, it does not.

>>18345353
https://www.dropbox.com/s/iupj5o6pczvue1t/ssgs%20partially%20translated.rar?dl=0

>>18345353
>>18345391
Oh yeah forgot to mention. If it doesn't work, make sure you're running the Japanese version of PCB. Either that or you'll have to do some fiddling with the files in notepad+ or something.

>>18345273
>>18345353
I got rid of the annoying repeats for deleting SpoilerAL.log

>>18345444
>>18345406
>>18345391
Thank you. However, I still get a "rich error ?????" every time I open an SSG or choose a category, and the translation doesn't seem to work. Maybe I need a different SpoilerAL download?

>>18345501
my mistake, it's Rich Edit

>>18345501
Are you running spoilerAL in japanese locale? Could you show us a webm of what you're doing if that doesn't solve it

>>18345518
I've been using a translated SpoilerAL, and I wouldn't know how to make a webm. Tried it with the original japanese SpoilerAL and still I didn't get anything.

>>18345535
...so you ran spoilerAL in japanese locale and it failed? Try running this (https://mega.nz/#!gBwyjAjI!cWNGiwVHP57AR66kl07thTGrrCG_nPOYeBp6IsqOZK8)) in spoilerAL and fill it with your ssgs

>>18345566
Still not working out, and I still get the rich edit errors. Am I missing some obvious step to link the game with SpoilerAL or something?

What shot types are considered good in HSIFS for survival?

I just played for the first time, picked Marisa Winter, got a 1CC easily. Holy shit it completely stomps bosses. And her bomb is actually good now (unlike LOLK) because it builds meter.

I'm worried it would suck during stages on higher difficulties, though.

>>18345734
Summer for normal, fall for hard/lunatic. Summer's still pretty strong on hard mode, though.

>>18345749
Is Marisa Fall good? Or do I just pick Aya for faster movespeed. I really like Marisa in this game

>>18345755
Aya, in my opinion, is the worst character, so yeah, pick Marisa.

>>18345796
Playing with fall a bit, do I just route when to use this on bosses? Seems like release lasts as long as you hold down C key?

>>18345817
Nvm it seems like it always brings you to zero, and just lasts longer if you have more meter. So I guess you would learn spots to abuse it.

>>18345826
>>18345817
Yeah, it's better the more bullets there are, moreso than other seasons. There's points where you can just release over and over again.

considering this was all done in about a month, I think my chart is coming along well. I know it's sparse now but I'm going through each game one at a time

I haven't really attempted UFO yet and I'm waiting to patch EoSD to go full screen before I try it. DDC really should not be giving me as much trouble as it is, I just keep playing it too carelessly thanks to that annoying resource system

>>18344914
The all have a spell card practicer

>>18347163
I wish someone could practice spellcards for me.

>>18345978
>DDC
For an easy win, use SakuyaA

i feel like shit for not being able to finish EoSD on normal... I don't even die until the 4th stage, but then it feels like the game just ramps up in difficulty and i get my shit kicked in by patchouli and her stage, and i can barely make it to sakuya and then die ):
should i just try finishing the game on easy?

>>18350944
use yer bombs.

That felt pretty fucking awesome.

>>18350944

No, it would be too easy for you with no Remi fight. If you can consistently get to stage 4 without dying you already have the skills to micrododge, misdirect and stream the RNG bullshit. Also don't be shy to bomb through the hard parts.

>>18350983
>>18351036
i do feel like i don't use bombs often, but then again I feel like if i waste them I might not have enough for sakuya/remi... but i'll give it another shot tomorrow!

>>18350334
I've been using SakuyaA and ReimuA, problem is I always reset if I die before stage 4 because I figure I need those lives for sukuna, and I usually die because I go too hard on auto collecting.

The patterns in that game are about average in terms of difficulty, not too hard, but I keep getting myself killed in shitty ways. Frustrating game

so is it not possible to collect extra bombs in legacy mode LoLK? seems like you can only get life fragments

>>18350944
Use your bombs. Better to run out and die than to die with them. There are times when you can use a bomb to collect items and erase bullets at the same time. More items = more points = more 1ups, you do the math.

>>18351147
>I always reset if I die before stage 4
In DDC you don't need to worry about this. You can always get more lives. Even if I die 3 or 4 times before stage 5, I can still max out my lives before I get to Seija (sometimes after) with SakuyaA and ReimuA. I like to think of DDC as a game whose goal is to convert bombs into lives, i.e. use bombs at opportune times to collect items and get life pieces.

>>18351183
Lives are worth more than bombs anyway, so this is actually better than if you got bomb fragments.

>>18351478
>Lives are worth more than bombs anyway, so this is actually better than if you got bomb fragments
Playing through again I was reminded that certain boss spells do drop bombs, sometimes, otherwise there's no bomb fragments (only in pointdevice mode it seems).

Either way you're right, especially if you're playing as like reisen

>>18351183
yes, once you cap lives, life pieces start to count as bomb pieces

>>18350944
post a replay

I got MarisaB (no abuse) and MarisaC in MoF today and would have got MarisaA too if I didn't job on Mountain of Faith. Once I get that I'll probably work on PCB.

On an unrelated note, does getting a normal ending in IN count as a 1cc? I got the Magic team ending a month ago and wasn't sure if it counted because the Extra stage option is still locked.

>>18351067
You lose all your bombs when you lose a life anyway.

>>18352106
There are two final routes in IN. You need to defeat Reisen once more and pick the second opinion.

So I've managed to beat 16, making it the third one I've beaten counting 15 pointdevice, and 7 which was about 6 years ago now.

Any tips for cards like crazy back dance and shot in the back? I've practiced them a bit, but it feels like it's too easy to get overwhelemed if you slow down on taking out the orbs for even a second.

>>18352106
>>18352147
There's 2 endings, you need to get Ending B to get Extra. You've cleared A with Magic Team, so if you go through the game again, it'll automatically put you in B, until you 1cc that. You'll then get the ability to choose after that.

>>18352147
>>18352156
He didn't ask for this tho, he asked if a final A 1cc counts as an actual 1cc, and the answer is yes.

Any possible way to data extract AoCF? I want to see the sprites but most importantly I want the small sound clip of Jo'on's spellcard

Is there a patch which removes the fog in eosd or is it something you need to manually change yourself?

>>18353964
What fog?

>>18353964
That's on the custom.exe, check/unckeck that.

>>18354169
Well I feel like an idiot now. Thanks!

Haven't updated it in a while, so here it is.

>>18353760
https://github.com/brliron/135tk
https://github.com/vn-tools/arc_unpacker

Extracted Joon's sound effects for you:
https://a.uguu.se/XgNYqqKix2MJ.7z

>>18355230
I can't thank you enough

>>18352155
>crazy back dance
if you are using reimu, might aswell go for the speedkill strategy wich consist on staying about one of the dancers and make sure you are hitting her with your 5 normal shots + 6 seasons shots. If you are tying to do it "the right way" then start on the left of the screen, kill the orbs and move to the right, they always come in waves so you should figure out the patern to give yourself some time to attack the dancers

>shot in the back
again, with reimu you can apply the same strategy to speedkill that spell, however okina may move in some wierd way that forces you to get away from her in order to dodge the rear stream. If anything, don't try to kill the orbs since they have way too much hp and comes in huge waves, just stream as high in the screen as you can and learn the timing for okinia' stars attack, if you get too close to a wall then misdirect

>>18355447
Fuck, I mean above instead of about
Here is a video of what I said https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iI4apQIxINo

So I've cleared HSIFS with all 16 shot combos today. I plan to get a hard clear with a shot, then get a Lunatic clear.

What do you recommend? I'm leaning towards Marisa Autumn, BUT Okinas last spell scares me. It's micro dodging so you can't really bomb preemptively, and bombing doesn't let you damage Okina like on winter or spring or summer.

Basically it's a toss up between Marisa Summer and Marisa Autumn.

>>18356159
Just play ReimuSpring like a man

>>18356159
>>18356377
Real men do CirnoSpring

After playing Touhou so much I tried another shooter and most of my skill transferred. I'm glad I grinded the fuck out of PCB Hard mode and IN Extra, that basically forced me to learn stuff like streaming, how to deal with n-way bullets depending on whether n is even or odd, resource management, and generally giving me better dodging skills.
Other games seem to rely more on reaction time (faster bullets) and random/aimed bullets than fixed patterns like in Touhou however.

>>18356886
Nice blog

>>18356886
other shmups use less randomness and more aimed stuff.

how do I consistently deal with Youmu's first nonspell? the first wave is alright, but the second one usually fucks me up.

>>18356159
um the autumn final isn't micrododging, you are supposed to go in an opposite pattern than Okina.
Also no bomb can damage any of the final spells.

Just 1CC'd MoF a few days ago, got myself to SA, and I'm sperging on Parsee and Yuugi. Every time that I reach stage 4, the 1-2 remaining lives get decimated on Satori. And why are Suika's danmaku so hard anyway? So, how do I get good?

>>18357359
Are you playing Yukari?

>>18357359
Start playing Yukari.

>>18357359
Stop playing with Suika. She sucks cocks and not in the good way. If you're just getting started on SA, then you have to play as ReimuYukari.

>>18357263
Trial and error, anon. Smash those practise runs, and aim for the tiny openings between the 'spears'.

>>18357368
>>18357372
Will do. Is there any segment that I should try to work with teleporting from side to side, or just stick to classic dodging all the way?

>>18357331
Oh is that how it works? I usually just sat in a corner and timed it out. Do you have a replay or youtube of the correct way?

Also by bomb damage I meant you get more free time to damage her on other spells, but with autumn she's moving around so you damage her less

>>18357390
post mid boss at stage 5, teleports helps a lot after the extra waves if you speedkill orin and before mid boss at stage 6, not really that hard but still helpfull

>>18357359
Suika's shot type isn't too great, but it gets some particularly hard Satori cards. Like the others said, play Yukari.

>>18337598
>clear-shaming in a thread where everyone cheats as a matter of course

>>18357896
I never cheated, delete this.

>>18357896
Who are you quoting?

Am I a fool for using an Xbox 1 controller?

>>18357896
why do you feel the need to project. not everyone uses safespots like you do

>>18358076
>Am I a fool for using a[...] controller?
ye

>>18357938
>>18358116
Not him, but a lot of people in this thread use spoilerAL to practice cards/non-spells judging from the replies earlier. That isn't any different from cheating since a spellcard practice mode wasn't included originally.

>>18355230
How do you use these tools?

>>18358704
That isn't cheating. Every world record player uses these tools.

>>18358704
Practicing isn't cheating.

>>18358895
>>18358928
It's a cheat tool plain and simple. You are using a third-party tool to modify the game to play it in a way that wasn't intended. Not much different from people using the plot-only patch since you are doing the same by skipping the entire stage to get to the spell that you want. You are getting an unfair advantage over regular players by being able to retry as much as you want. Plus, with spoilerAL you can use it to practice non-spells. That isn't even in the other games that do feature a spellcard practice. I don't use spoilerAL and I have to retry stages to get to the card I want practice. SpoilerAL is convenient and a lot less of hassle I understand, but it is most definitely cheating and you simply want justification for hacking the game. Stop lying to yourselves. Wouldn't even surprise me if you are the same people who call out others for using EoSD hitbox patch or not starting with the default lives/bombs or abusing safe spots (ironically, the latter two don't even require hacking).

>Every world record player uses these tools.
That's besides the point, and you really have no way to prove that. Just because you do it doesn't mean everyone does.

>>18358980
Practice tools aren't used during actual runs of the game. They are not cheating.

Every world record player uses practice tools. You can go on Discord, ask one, and they will confirm they use them. Why aren't their scores disqualified?

>>18358980
Speedrunners use practice tools to practice. Should their clean runs be disqualified if they used a practice tool to practice?

You're retarded and I bet you use EOSD Hitbox patch.

>>18358994
>>18359001
>practice tools
That's a nice way to glorify a hacking tool.

>Should their clean runs be disqualified if they used a practice tool to practice?
No, but the method they used to practice is cheating. I know they aren't used in the actual run, but if there wasn't a spell practice in the game to begin with then you shouldn't be hacking one into the game. This is more of an ethical thing. I simply don't like it personally.

>Discord
Why don't you go back to your circlejerk instead? Please do.

>>18359030
>I simply don't like it personally.
That doesn't make it cheating.

>>18357359
Suika' Satori is the easiest Satori on any difficulty.

>>18359030
>I simply don't like it personally.
Thanks for admitting it's not cheating. Retard.

Next you'll tell me English patches are cheating.

>>18358076
No, I use a controller and frankly it's much more comfortable than a keyboard. I've been able to 1cc most games with it, and zun even recommends using a controller

Just keep in mind it will probably take a bit of practice to get used to micro-dodging with a joystick as opposed to the arrow keys.

>>18359030
Honestly, if you can get to that point in the game (the spell you're practicing) without that tool then I wouldn't really say it's cheating. You're just skipping ahead to a point you want to work on.

It's not a "legitimate" tool technically but it's not outputting any scores or clears or whatever, so I'd say it's pretty much for your own benefit.

Got my PCB 1CC. I screwed up badly on Alice mid-boss (lost 5 bombs) and Youmu (died twice to Karmic Punishment for fuck sake) and got to Yuyuko with only 3 lives. But I clenched my buttcheeks and even didn't die on hateful Swallowtail Butterfly (usually this is my funeral). Last spell was scary but I used only one bomb on first red wave and dodged the rest with trembling hands.
Homing shot of SakuyaA was indeed very helpful even though after MarisaB in EoSD with her high speed I was having a hard time adapting to slow movement of Sakuya. 4 bombs is also very nice, but since I tend to die with full bombs pretty often I didn't saw much of a difference.
It is my second Touhou 1CC on Normal but I still suck very much. Well, one step at a time. Next one is the IN I suppose. Sorry for the blogpost guys, I'm just glad to make some progress.

>>18360163
Good job, anon! Last spell is indeed tricky, especially with Sakuya's blazing focused speed.

>>18360163
>Sorry for the blogpost guys, I'm just glad to make some progress.

This is literally what this thread is here for, ya dolt. As long as it's about the games, of course.

Also, time to start filling out that chart.

>>18360163
Congrats! Pretty cool to have dodged all of RB with a single bomb haha, clutch finishes like that are always really fun to do. GL with IN

>>18315429
anyone has some tips for flan's first spell?
i'm fairly decent to the others but i waste so much resources on that one...

>>18360485
It's 100% routable, the only randomness in it is flan's movement. Pink is static and blue is aimed. When the blue stuff comes from the bottom I like to do a little dash to the left after being on the center of the screen to give myself an opening, then sit at the bottom. The pink bullets are parallel, so if you stand in a gap between two bullets coming from the top none will spawn on you at the bottom.

>>18357415
I have some replays I can give you, I personally don't like that spell so I couldn't get anything, but you can see what I mean on my ReimuA run.
I'll also give you some replays of the shots you mentioned earlier, the MarisaSu one is really cheesy tho
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/357910119755022337/402521682990071840/th16_ud0036.rpy
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/357910119755022337/392681038570192896/th16_ud0035.rpy
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/357910119755022337/392677171753123840/th16_ud0031.rpy

>>18358980
>>18359030
I can spy Frog posts from a mile away.

>>18319800
>don't use continues or practice mode
What kind of stupidity is this?

>>18360983
Using continues or practice modes is cheating.

ISC is sorta shit in my opinion. The Photography games are better.

>>18361244
Being good at Touhou is cheating

>>18361391
Routing and memorization is cheating

>>18359034
>>18359869
>x depends on how I feel about it
That's now how ranguage works. A cheat is a cheat whether anyone likes it or not. You just dont want to admit it because "cheating is bad and BAD people CHEAT and ~I'M~ not a BAD PERSON!!!"

>>18361407
OK, practice tools are cheating. But our runs are legit because we don't use practice tools on them.

That item that lets you turn into a ghost in ISC is so OP. You can just park yourself on top of the enemy and have them almost dead by the time it runs out.

>>18361461
>ISC
found your problem.

>>18361377
>>18361497
Double Spoiler > Impossible Spell Card >>> Shoot the Bullet

By the way disagreeing with me is cheating

Is using the christmas patch in pcb, only compatible with the english version, cheating?

>>18361411
So you admit you're a cheating cheater who cheats.

>>18361627
It depends on what the patch does. If it just gives Reimu a santa hat and makes Letty say "Merry Christmas" then I wouldn't consider it cheating.

>>18361627
You can use the MS paint patch instead, not a cheat but an extra condition :^)

>>18361801
Would you consider turning Yuyuko Saigyouji into a vertical, rectangular piece of fruitcake cheating

>>18361906
If her hitbox isn't changed, then no.

>>18361896
Link the MS paint patch pls

>>18361922
http://www.mediafire.com/file/17gq2hnxtmtnrp9/Paint+Cherry+Blossom+GOTY+ver+1.0.zip

>>18361948
Well that was an experience

>>18362028
Nice job with Cirno, I can see a lot of effort was put into this patch

>>18361693
Exactly. Speedrunners are also cheaters because they use practice tools, including glitchless runners. Arcade gamers? Cheaters, they use savestates. Players at Evo who use frame data gathered through hacking tools? Cheaters.

Be proud when you finally 1cc Normal without cheating.

best shot type for an easy 1cc in UFO?

seems like I might go with marisa A for now

Starting up the grind to beat SA, and I managed to get to Orin. That second to last card of hers. What the actual fuck?

>>18362463
That's retarded, and I don't even use SpoilerAL.

>>18362698
honestly just bomb the shit out of orin, you can get out of her losing only one life on a standard run, or just all of your power if you have a good go at it

>>18362694
SanaeB

>>18362719
Good to know. I died coming out of a bomb on that card, though, because I kind of locked up. Is that her hardest, or is her final card worse?

>>18362793
To me, her hardest cards are the ones with the zombie fairies or whatever that shoot shit when they die, and the rest are just tedious. the second last spell with the spinning flames can be annoying though, yes.

I'm usually able to get up to utsuho having only lost one or two lives, and I can make it to orin with all of my lives in a good run. if you can get to that point, and then maybe die once at orin, you'll be fine on stage 6 (assuming you bomb the shit out of utsuho as well)

>>18362793
>>18363034
to add on to this, for her second last card, look for a save spot within the pink bullets to let them fall down and then pay attention to the spinning flames and look for the opening, then just move your way towards it. you have to switch your focus for that card.

for her final card, just move around the screen slowly and let the ghosts follow you. it will take a little while to get through it, but it's the safer way to do it (i'm not really sure how else you would without bombing).

for the spell where you first encounter the ghost fairies or whatever, I just bomb that one because otherwise it's way too tedious for me to get through

>>18363034
>>18363062
I barely made it to Orin, so maybe it'd be better for me to go back and marathon stage 3 until I can get through it without getting hurt, then. I also have trouble capturing Parsee's final card, i usually time it out.

So for that last card, I should make circles on the screen?

>>18363189
Well don't just run around aimlessly in a circle, but yes, that should be your general pattern as you move through the spray of bullets. when you are under orin and shooting her, you should try to get in as much damage as you can while it's safe

honestly, if you're dying on or before stage 3 i would go back and practice those stages as they're relatively easy compared to the later ones (obviously). yuugi has one or two spells i usually bomb, otherwise it just takes some practice. i struggled with stage 3 for a while too. it helps to learn where certain enemies appear and kill them before their shit starts filling the screen (like the ones that shoot the blue bullets at you)

>>18363213
I can get to midboss Yuugi reliably without getting hit, though I still have to bomb a few of Parsee's cards. I've managed to beat stage 4 in practice without getting hit before Satori, so I think if I can master Yuugi, then I should be able to clear no problem, assuming Okyuu isn't a horror to fight.

>>18363292
utsuho has some really damn annoying spells with her last two spells being the worst. she also has a two or three cards that are incredibly easy. if I were you, I would try to just straight up beat the game first so you can have all the stages to practice on.

it would suck if you got a good run up to stage 6 then got obliterated there

>>18363307
I can try that, sure. I'm not sure I can get through it with 2 lives on a continue, though, as I was fully incapable of doing that for stage 6 mountain of Faith.

>>18363335
that's what I did, but it took a lot of time and some strategic bombing.

I should probably mention that it took me a while to beat SA, but it was also like the 2nd touhou game I played so I wasn't too experienced at that point. it ended up being my favorite game in the series

either way, just keep practicing the points you're bad at and you should improve. the ideal option is probably to try and get to stage 6 with as many lives as possible. there are SA normal playthroughs on youtube as well, check those out and see what strats they use.

if you're really interested I can upload my 1cc replay

>>18363355
I'd appreciate that. i can't promise to watch it tonight, though, since college work is bearing down on me.

>>18363447
>since college work is bearing down on me.

same

for some reason that replay isnt on this computer (which is odd because my game has the extra stage unlocked) so I wont be able to upload it. I would just look for one on youtube.

>>18363447
>>18363512
scratch that, it's the correct replay, I was just encountering a bug where reimu apparently dies incorrectly if you begin the replay at stage 6.

will upload in a minute, need to find that replay site again

>>18363447
(sorry for the excessive samefagging)
http://replays.gensokyo.org/download.php?id=44552

here it is. notice the run becomes very sloppy around orin, the three deaths I had there were avoidable and bombing was really unnecessary in many places. stage 6 deaths overall were avoidable too, just came from being careless. a lot of utsuho's spells require constant micro-dodging so they can be tricky

that was just my first 1cc in that game though and I was still inexperienced. so if anything, learn from my mistakes in that replay

Couldn't decide between subseasons, went with Winter for the heck of it and cleaned Hard with no practice.

Holy shit this thing when used properly lets you bypass half of each boss with release + stacking. I think I want to run with it for Lunatic, I'll have to practice the stages anyway so who cares if winter sucks for stages.

>>18363652
Fall might be even better for Lunatic. Imagine if Winter moved with your character, it's like that. I think you get more extra shot damage from Winter however.

>>18363795
If you use Winter release and get 3+ lasers stacking, you can end most cards in under 10 seconds

>>18363608
For some reason the download link is just bringing me to a screen full of random text.

>>18363652
Fall is better for lunatic.

>>18364017
yeah that site was kind of fucked up for me too, try the direct link to the download:
http://replays.gensokyo.org/replays/th11/th11_udan07.rpy

>>18364022
I'm getting the same result, pic related

>>18364060
try a different browser, disable noscript, adblockers, etc.

>>18364068
That worked, thank you. Oddly i have a bunch of replays I never saved on here, must have come with the game itself. Odd because I didn't get a scorefile.

>>18364060
>>18364017
right click the download link and click save link as?

Is it just me or IN is much harder than PCB? That darkness gimmick on Mystia took me off guard. Stages in general are also harder in my opinion. Nevertheless I was doing decent with Scarlet Devil team. Until I got to Reimu. She just demolished me with her confusing attacks and rapid movement. I coudn't even focus my fire on Reimu (Remilia has a pretty small spread). She moves so fucking much.

>>18364808
>Is it just me or IN is much harder than PCB?
Yes.

It being so easy that it's a good beginner's game it's a shitty meme that won't fucking die.

Today was a good day, I got MarisaA in MoF which means I've cleared with all 6 shots and then I got SakuyaA in PCB with 5 lives remaining. Spending time playing MoF has noticeably improved my bombing.

>>18364060
curl -o filename link

Someone give me a goal. I've finally finished my personal goal which was beating the first three windows games on normal with all the characters. Should i step up the difficulty and do the same on hard or maybe try the newer games?

>>18364808
>Is it just me or IN is much harder than PCB?

Not entirely. It does have a lot of gimmicky danmaku you will most likely die to the first time around, but once you learn what to do it's not that bad.
The game gives you tons of resources, and has a very generous deathbomb window, especially during spellcards, and it has arguably the easiest stage 5 in any Touhou.

>Stages in general are also harder in my opinion.

Only with certain shottypes. SDM team shouldn't be too bad.
Just remember to switch to your youkai partner when you see enemies spawning familiars, youkai shots ignore the familiars and kill the spawners instead, cancelling all the spawned familiars and bullets around them when they're killed.

>Until I got to Reimu. She just demolished me with her confusing attacks and rapid movement.

You need to follow her around during her non-spells from one side of the screen to the other, preferably ahead of time when she's still moving around. Also, remember to switch to youkai mode when she's throwing around projectiles, you'll be immune to the ying-yangs as they're classified as fimilars and will be ignored.

>I coudn't even focus my fire on Reimu (Remilia has a pretty small spread).

But Remilia has another bonus to her. When you're focusing you can leave the bats to keep shooting at the spot you pressed shift. That way, for example, if you have enemies spawning from both sides during stage portions, you can position the bats on one side and move yourself over to the other, you'll be able to kill both waves simultaneously.
Same with Reimu, when she's teleporting around you can put the bats on one side and position yourself on the oher, that way you'll always keep shooting her without needing to chase her around.

And if you're having trouble with Reimu, you could always switch to Border or Nether team, and face off against Marisa. She's much harder.