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18161897 No.18161897 [Reply] [Original]

Ok so why exactly is the new touhou so shitty? The music is still really nice and the new characters are ok, but why did they release it so bugged and shit? It's nice that it's a step up in difficulty but the IaMP-like card selection is garbage and broken (Compare Miko's cards to Mokou's) and Yukari is easy as fuck, not to mention that this Urban Legend thing is still going on and is still boring and so are the Last Words associated with it (with the exception of Reisen's and Koishi's).
Fix your shit tasofro

>> No.18161915

It's your fault for playing the Steam version instead of the Comiket one like literally everybody else. Now fuck off.

>> No.18161923

>>18161915
not OP
what's the differences?

>> No.18161955

>>18161923

Spending money on it.

>> No.18161962

>>18161955
Where the hell the money would go anyways? tasofro or zun? its getting on steam topsellers again like HSiFS

>> No.18161973

>>18161962
ZUN owns Touhou, so he gets part of the money.

>> No.18162333
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Considering that Tasofro was too lazy (or greedy) to makes that all characters had new arranges, or the game has the same game engine of ULiL, or the characters moves are the same as ULiL, and the pairing play is a mere joke in any playable sense, I don't know my dudes, out of the bugs, this is more a ULiL expantion than a full new game, and $25 for that? fucking no.

Althought I still loving it for Doremy, for reveal canonically that Byakushit is a trash of person, for that cute rich bitch Joon, and Moe's Art.

>> No.18162349

>>18162333
>Considering that Tasofro was too lazy (or greedy) to makes that all characters had new arranges, or the game has the same game engine of ULiL, or the characters moves are the same as ULiL, and the pairing play is a mere joke in any playable sense, I don't know my dudes, out of the bugs, this is more a ULiL expantion than a full new game, and $25 for that? fucking no.
i can't believe how utterly dumb you sound right now

>> No.18162580

>>18161923
The Steam version is bugged up the ass because (according to MotK) the geniuses at Tasofro applied the fixes from the 1.02 patch to the base game but not the ones from the 1.01 patch, making the game go nuts because data is missing. It's been some hours though, maybe they already fixed it (I see the patch in the AoCF Tasofro page specifies it's 1.02b rather than just 1.02).

>>18162349
That's Chileans for you.

>> No.18162658

>>18162333
Whatever I understood from this mass of gibberish is utterly all wrong.

>> No.18162764
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>>18162580
What's the deal with the Chileans and Soku? Saw that being thrown around a lot in fighting game threads.
t. Newfag

>> No.18162772

>>18162580
what it's your problem shell of your mother

>> No.18162785

>>18162658
Uh, Joon isn't a rich bitch then?

>> No.18163040

>>18162333
To the characters they didn't make themes it was because they alredy have 2 (in the fighting games), it's a pattern that also happened in SWR and Soku, not because of lazyness.

Of course they have the same engine, it's alredy great and they have basically 50% of the game done just because of that, wish they got rid of the Urban Legend bullshit, since LoLK alredy cleared it up pretty much.

Overall you sound retarded and think that it's easy to make a game.

>> No.18163074

>>18162580
I dont know man, maybe im in the minority but so far I havent experienced any issues. Though granted, I havent done any netplay yet but im fairly certain its going too have the usual issues.

>> No.18163105

>>18163074
The issue is glitched Doremy and the LACK OF SPELLCARDS, you know, the people at tasofro thought it would be a nice idea to launch the game and make it lack one of the main things that made Touhou (specially the fighting games) shine. Basically, ZUN is better doing the shit all by himself, even if he launches a game once per year.

>> No.18163183

>>18163105
I know, right? They should have done the HM thing where the entire thing would crash when you did anything. Wanna play the second story mode? Crash. Wanna play as Koishi? Crash. Wanna enter the options menu? Crash. But hey, it has spellcards now right? hahahahahahehihohu

Not to mention that this "lack of spellcards" shite only affects a third of the story mode chapters (and only the most irrelevant ones of the lot, at that). I fucking hate Chileans. They're the worst thing to happen to Touhou ever.

>> No.18163213

>>18163105
Id call the problem with spellcards an oversight rather than a bug. Bug wise I havent had issues. Doremy never crashed the game for me and ive played her extensively. Either way, they'll no doubt fix any issues fairly soon. I know its easy too be upset but Tasofro isnt exactly a big studio that can guarantee things will work 100% at launch and shit happens. HSiFS also had bugs. Thats just videogames in general my friend.

>> No.18163268

>>18163074
Like I said, it's possible that by now, the issues people were having with the Steam release have been fixed.

>> No.18163464

>>18163183
What is this chilean shit everyone talks about?

>> No.18163564

I dunno about you man, but I really like the plot this time
the mistery was fun, and the flow of the story was better than the shumps

>> No.18163598

Always reminds me of when HM was released and some people were utterly shocked that the game that did everything new from scratch had less characters than Soku.

>> No.18163638

I dont really get all the hate. $25 for a fighting game is pretty cheap. It's not soku guys, I get it, but it's time to move on.

>> No.18163850

>>18163268
can confirm game is on 1.02b and there was a 32mb download for the game.

>> No.18163868

>>18161897
It's not Soku.

>> No.18163888
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Seriously, what the fuck is this Chilean-Soku love story thing? Please fugging explain.

>> No.18163998

So Steamfags, are there still heaps of missing spellcards or have Tasofro fixed that with the 1.02b patch?

>> No.18164091

>>18163888
Have you ever tried shutting up and lurking more? I hear it usually works.

>> No.18164124

>>18162785
She's actually not, she immediately uses up all the money they steal, so that Shion can't waste the money with her poverty aura. After they get defeated, Joon even goes to the Myouren temple to practice asceticism willingly, though that doesn't last long.

>> No.18164149

>>18164091
How would he learn if nobody ever explains it? All they do is mention Chileans whenever Soku is discussed. "lurk moar fgget" is a legit answer most of the times but sometimes just lurking won't lead you anywhere.

>> No.18164211

>>18163888
Once upon a time there was a big shitposter with a hateboner for 12.3 who started accusing everyone who liked Hisoutensoku of being a Chilean shitposter, and carried his vendetta into every discussion of 12.3 there ever was and making the threads unusable. Eventually it became a big meme.

Whether there ever were any Chilean shitposters in the first place is a mystery but it doesn't really matter, the ensuing autism crusade lasted about a hundred times longer than whatever the initial trigger was.

>> No.18164314

>>18163888
>>18164091
>>18164149
Because from the context there's nothing to explain.

But for OP, they and the South American community in general kept Soku alive for years to this day. Even when everyone else stopped playing Soku even before HM launched.
Then when HM came out they hated the direction, gameplay, engine, roster, the bugs, etc. and railed against it. Now they continue to hold all this against the new series while finding more and more to complain about despite the gradual improvements.

>> No.18164369

>>18164314
sokus community is more full of weird euros.

>> No.18164383

>>18164314
You can't even play a game of soku cross-continent without unplayable lag. Soku can only be kept alive by a "local community." Most of the regulars in the hisouten channels were NA and EU.

I'm pretty sure anyone who believes that soku is a SA thing got into soku through /v/.

>> No.18164463

>>18163888
Low quality shitpost from /v/.

>> No.18165122

>>18161897
>Ok so why exactly is the new touhou so shitty?
Because it's a fighting game. A floaty fighting game. And that's it.
No need to post your steam review here.

>> No.18165132

>>18162764
South America is the only place that still cares about 12.3. I believe some Chilean dudes devoted their entire lives to it too so they can't accept the existence of different games.

>> No.18165145

>>18163183
>only the most irrelevant ones of the lot
That doesn't mean anything when you're forced to clear all story modes to progress.
The reason why they pushed out an incomplete game is simple: you don't need story mode to play fighting games how they're meant to be played, with other people. If anything, the buggy story mode lets you unlock the newhus faster, so it's technically a good thing if you want to get online as soon as possible.
Personally, I'm waiting until it gets fixed because I suck at fighting games I don't care about playing online and I'd rather check story mode out.

>> No.18165149

>>18165132
theres weekly tournaments for soku every weekend that consist of NA and EU players.

>> No.18165155

>>18165149
Wasn't there some Soku EVO thing this week as well in Japan?

>> No.18165164

>>18165155
probably, japan/asia even play ulil and now aocf on top of soku.

i've never even really heard of the south american soku meme. south america is only known for KoF and snk games.

>> No.18165202

>>18165164
From what I remember, it was literally just one guy. He used to play on a stream with other Soku players but I don't remember any stupid drama shit.

>> No.18165414

>>18164211
>>18164314
>>18165132
I see. Thank you for the explanation.

>> No.18165464

>>18165145
You say it like I don't know that. You should be directing that explanation to OP.
But yeah, I'm pretty much the same as you. Can't wait for that story mode to be actually finished, and for some of the spritework to be fixed.

>> No.18165612

im getting a refund, the online is literally impossible to play. the matchmaking doesnt work and barely anybody can direct ip connect with eachother.

>> No.18166196

>>18165612
Get a better network setup, son.

>> No.18166208

>>18166196
lots of people in the discord are having the same problem. ill rebuy it if tasofro implements all the steam stuff for friend connections.

theres no way to even filter lobby matchmaking so good luck.

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>>18166208
>discord

>> No.18166249

>>18166234
i dislike discord as well but it's the only way to play the game online since tasofro doesn't know how to do online play still.

>> No.18166253

I don't play these games competitively or online and I think it's fine. I don't mind buying it just for all the other tasofro games I've pirated.
I think word was already that this was a rather rushed release. It's quite common for doujin games to receive a lot of critical patching over time. Aside from that I like the game just fine. The plot is interesting and the game mode is straightforward.

>> No.18166301

>>18166234
Don't post endings, even if it's like this.
If you're worried about discord botnet there's a couple ways you can get around it.
>18165132
Nice /v/ meme, but soku is still alive and well.
>>18164314
>SA kept soku alive for years
As explained by >>18164383 , I don't see how SA can be attributed to "keeping soku alive" if you can't even play with them.
Personally I think the people who kept soku going are the ones who updated the wiki, the ones who made guide videos, the ones who made shitty soku memes, and especially the ones in your community that are ready to welcome newcomers into the game.

>> No.18166405

>>18166253
What do you mean by "word"? The devs themselves said the game was rushed for release. Hell, they had a 1.01 patch up and ready to go even before the game was out.

>>18166301
>durr we're such an exemplary community i swear please join our dead netplay
And then you shitposted half the thread.
This is why everyone hates you Chileans.

>> No.18166461

>>18166301
>Don't post endings, even if it's like this.
That's not how you fit in.

>> No.18166477

>>18166301
>don't post endings
'ow nu r u

>> No.18167026

>>18163638
BlazBlue CentralFiction is regularly on sale for $30 or less.

>> No.18167099

>>18167026
yeah and? it's still more money plus im sure it has tons of paid dlcs. everytime a new fighter launches its usually $50 or more, touhou launched at $25.

>> No.18167124

>>18167099
Except BBCF is actually good and worth the $20-40 you pay for it.

It's also a finished game at launch.

>> No.18167167

>>18167124
yeah its also produced by professionals. $25 is still a budget price for a game.
BB also has what like 4 or 5 versions out of it now? Pretty sure they were all $40+ at launch + the paid dlc as well. you're comparing apples to oranges.

>> No.18167213

>>18167167
Are you too stupid to use Google?

They stopped doing Extend versions of the games. There's only one BlazBlue CentralFiction, and it's on Steam for $40 with only one DLC character for $8.

Even then you can get the entire game + DLC on sale for $25. Just because Tasfro is an indie company doesn't give them the excuse to sell an unfinished game for $25.

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>>18167026
>BlazBlue
never

>> No.18167287

>>18167213
okay and how many blazblues were there to get to CF? and they were all more expensive than a touhou fighter. idk why you are holding a small indie dev known for shitty memes to the same standards as a high budget fighting game series that has veterans with 20+ years in the industry.

>> No.18171389

>>18161923
There is literally no difference bewteen steam and drm free as of now except steam doesn't come with the updater exe since tasofro can use steams servers to publish new patches.

>> No.18171435

>>18164314
There isn't even a Chilean community, it's literally just a shitposter constantly shitposting. The South American community is almost entirely in Brazil, or maybe you're thinking of the Mexican one.

>> No.18171534

I love Jo'on!

>> No.18171718 [DELETED] 
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>>18166301
I'm going to record every ending and post them onto a video hosting site just to actively spite you.

>> No.18171833

>>18171718
If you've actually read anything ZUN has to say about Touhou copyright, you'll know that ZUN is perfectly fine with people posting his work and music anywhere, as long as it's not the ending scenes.

As in, you can post all the shit you want on youtube as long as it's not the endings, because he wants people to play the games to see them.

>> No.18171962

>>18171435
>Mexican
I wouldn't be surprised. Don't they have a pretty hardcore fighting game community? Like all the best KoF players in the world are predominantly Mexican and Chinese.

>> No.18172581

>>18163040
>it's a pattern that also happened in SWR and Soku
But three of the four older characters who appeared in unlinked Soku had new arrangements of their themes, Patchi was the only one who reused music. And Soku as a whole was a regular expansion not even trying to masquerade as its own game, though I think it was a little lazy that Utsuho and Suwako didn't get story routes.

>> No.18172624
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>>18163638
>it's time to move on.
Why move on when nothing has come to replace it? The aerial fighting games play completely differently, it's not even like Super Smash Bros. where the newer games play similar to the one people cling to and just have worse execution in the eyes of said people, the first fighting trilogy and the second fighting trilogy are entirely separate from each other beyond the superficial aspect of "fighting game with a lot of projectiles and grazing."
It would be like yelling at someone to stop playing PoFV even though ZUN hasn't made a game that plays like PoFV since then.

>> No.18172788 [DELETED] 

>>18172624
This. Chileans will never move on from Shitku and will continue hounding discussion of better fighting games for the rest of time because it doesn't have their favorite secondary waifu to post in /r/touhou and it doesn't have all the RNGshit that lets them pretend they're skilled because the computer fucks over the opponent. There's no use in telling them to leave, it's like telling cockroaches to leave.

>> No.18172794

>>18172788
Please do not willingly misinterpret my post to such an extreme as you did.

>> No.18172805

>>18172794
Would a willing misinterpretation be a disinterpretation?

>> No.18172810

>>18172794
That's the guy we've been talking about this whole time, who is still carting around years of /v/ frustration to this day.

At this point it's notify the authorities or abandon thread.

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18172935

>janitor deleting posts he doesn't like

dumb janny

>> No.18173135

my game keeps crashing when i open it, how do i fix it?

>> No.18173204

>>18172794
Too bad it's all true.

>>18172810
Yes anon, only one person in the world hates the game you love so much and can't stop shitposting discussions of the later fighting games with. I couldn't be anybody else because literally only one person out of billions can hate what you like.

>> No.18173357

>>18171962
Yeah Mexican's have a really big KoF community, but not for too many other games. To be fair the soku Mexican community is a fair size for what it is though, I haven't checked in on it in a while though so I don't know how it's doing today.

>> No.18173481

>>18166477
>>18166461
huh

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