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Erika

>>18147886
Erika looks surprisingly good in that.

Just how cute is Maria?

>Comiket came and went
>No WTC5 news
This doesn't make me sing of joy

>>18147970
I have absolutely zero hype, so I can wait for years and be pleasantly surprised when it finally comes out. There is more stuff to watch and read, so I'm not in a hurry.

I hope Ryukishi takes as long as he needs to come up with something on the level of Higurashi and Umineko. If it's inferior I'm sure I'll love it anyway, but it would be a bit disappointing. I can't imagine how the fuck he could manage to write a third massive masterpiece, though. He's just a human.

>>18148002
I have no idea how he can top Umineko but I am sure that is what people said for Higurashi too.

>>18148002
>He's just a human.
Ahaha.wav

>>18148016
I went into Umineko thinking that NOTHING could surpass Higurashi. It blew me away. I still think Higurashi is superior in some aspects, but Umineko is better in general.

>>18148171
Higurashi definitely beats Umineko in some aspects, but Umineko also has places it excels. Both series are great in different ways.

>>18147520
I heard that CLAMP made the character designs. I should check it out.

This is objectively best CG

>>18147898
this would make for a good sprite aesthetic

>>18148348
I love how Daisuke Ono managed to make Battler's usual ihihihi laugh sound menacing.

>>18148363
You think so?

>>18148348
Current whack theory - Black Battler/Battler from Bern's actually raised by Kyrie because Asumu died in childbirth/whatever (expanded cat box says I can do it fuck you) which is why he's a lunatic along with the other two.

Was Erika's boyfriend actually cheating on her?

I really don't like how both Higurashi and Umineko manage to be life changing experiences, with Umineko still somehow managing to be much greater than Higurashi.

I feel like he is setting himself up for failure by writing a third novel in the same series after these two absolute masterpieces.

I think he got too immersed in Umineko while writing it and now he's playing the Kinzo lottery with WTC

>>18148636
Just prepare to be put into a coma by the absolute masterpiece he's gonna churn out next.

>>18148636
If you don't believe in the miracle it won't come true. I choose to believe this timeline has the next WTC be even better than Umineko.

>>18148510
He was Amakusa.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TK-jDMzAghk

Are there any other great videos bitching about Umineko? I love watching these for some weird reason.

Waiting for anthology English patch

Stunning Asian witches are looking for older men in...

Does anyone have those compilation images of George being a passive aggressive faggot?

I want to make love to Yasu's body.

>>18149306

I had to delete them because George is so fat it was crashing my system.

Why doesn't Erika know what matcha is? Is she not japanese originally?

>>18149501
Where does it state that she doesn't know what matcha is?

>>18149578
When she's serving Ange tea in the city of books, she says that if Ange doesn't want to drink then she must use a funnel, to which Ange replies that she must then serve Erika some matcha. Then Erika goes like "Matcha?" as if she doesn't know what it is.

>>18149605
I think that was supposed to be a joke about Ange threatening to "make tea" for Erika, and Erika just not getting it.

I never realized this R-18 Eva pic was actually done by Natsumi Kei, artist of the Episode 8 manga.

>>18148348

>>18149906
Just a sketch?

Why couldnt someone just give Yasu a hug?

I want to BE Lambdadelta

>>18150045
Yeah, it's just a sketch. But it's still an 18+ image of an Umineko character drawn by an official artist.
https://www.pixiv.net/member_illust.php?mode=manga&illust_id=54165379

>>18150178
I also want to Breast Expansion Lambda.

>>18150143
I'm sure Maria must have hugged Yasu at one point or another.

Why was Lambdadelta so based? Was she just a good person?

>>18150208
>Was she just a good person?
Deep down she couldn't help but appreciate everyone's effort.

>>18150208
If you work hard she helps you. This of course can sometimes turn out HORRIBLY WRONG - see Takano.

Bernkastel is interesting since while she is a massive cunt as of Umineko, her poems and description imply that she too is sometimes on your side.

Moral of the story - applying human standards to witches is a bad idea. Their moral compass is a roulette wheel

>>18150335
I also like the idea that Bern was just having fun playing the role of the bad guy all along. In the end "Umineko" was nothing more than another game to her and Lambda.

Bern is a jerk.

>>18150355
The Jerkiest

>>18150392

>>18150143
I will hug her in the Golden Land.

>>18150407
But in the Golden land it's not quite Yasu anymore. It's Shannon, Kanon, and Beato manifesting as 3 separate beings.

>>18148899
It's no wonder 90% of people went nuts and called r07 a hack after chiru when the average reader is as dumb as this

>>18147957
Hecka cute! Incredibly cute! So cute! Buttfucka cute! The cuteness of an actual, literal spergloli.

>>18148899
HOLY CRAP. This is actually awful.

>>18150453
No problem, I'll hug Beatrice. I'm sure she'll understand.

On one hand, I want the next WTC to be better than Umineko.
On the other hand, considering how Umineko consumed my life I'm afraid to see just what kind of impact it'll have on me.

>>18151707
I just can't imagine it being better than Umineko and I am not even saying that to be negative, I just can't see how he can write something better than Umineko.

>>18151707
Internet isn't the same place compared to eight years ago and I'm afraid that if wtc5 happens to be at least as good as Umineko it'll be memed by fanbase to a heat death.

BEATORIIIIICHEAH

Does anyone know the directory of the save files for Umineko?

>>18151824
I will be sad as an EOP having to wait for translations while trying to avoid all discussion about WTC5.

>>18150392
>>18150396
Is the manga always that good ? I've only read the VN. I tried going into it but the art seems really awful. Did the artist improve ?

>>18152049
Every episode is done by a different artist. Some are pretty meh, some are great.

>>18151964
Same, it's going to be hell, especially without a WH type group.

>>18151905
C:\ProgramData

why is Virgilia's dress in a German museum

>>18152475
wtf I love germany now

>>18152591
>PS3 sprites
I hate germany now

>>18148370
do you disagree?

>>18152726
Can someone translate the text?

>>18152475
>>18152726
Where's this?

>>18149306

>>18152749
Übersee Museum

>>18152736
Japanese sound-novels belong to the genre of adventure games. The focus here lies less on riddle-solving, and more on experiencing a story. Sound-novels are best described as interactive novels, in which the decisions of the players influence the way the progresses, but are otherwise limited to reading. Umineko is a sound-novel franchise of the group 07th Expansion, a group of fans, who develop games as amateurs (so-called Dojinshi-games). The franchise was very successful and in the follow-up a manga and an anime were produced.

I'd feel ashamed of my countrymen for not coming up with something at least a little more interesting, but German Otakus are the worst there are, so what can you expect?

>ywn lick Yasus feet

>>18152773
It's still a text about Umineko and a character's dress in a freaking museum, I wouldn't feel ashamed if I were you. Thanks for the translation!

>>18149306

>>18149371
>>18152774
Stop being gay.

>>18152726
>>18152475
Is this a temporary exhibition?

>>18152800
To me museums are basically the graveyard of art though. When culture is genuine and happening it's never put on a pedestal in this way. People just derive personal meaning from it and share that with each other. When people make a point of (((celebrating))) the importance of their cultural milestones in this way they're basically just jerking each other off. And that's really what conventions seem to be about for the most part here: Commercial bullshit and self-presentation.

In comparison, going to some back-alley indie shop, buying a game some guy put a lot of effort and heart into, having fun playing it, recommending it to friends and maybe meeting him on the street and talking about it, or participating in a quest thread on the old /tg/ has way more to do with genuine involvement.

>>18152773
Germans made one of the best eroge VNs I've ever read.

Genji just seems to be a completely broken person in his own right, just as broken as Kinzo, just differently. Where Yasu struggled with her furniture label, Genji has internalized it completely, and while he had the capacity to realize that the things Kinzo did were wrong, he neither had the knowledge of how to even deal with it or the will to do anything drastic which might have fixed the problem: he's kind of the end result of the "furniture" thing being taken too far- he is now furniture, a completely broken-in slave.

He could have had the best intentions in the world (and I believe he did want the best for Yasu, and the other siblings), but it doesn't matter because he is unable to formulate a solution which doesn't involve his master, Kinzo, or the island where he works. For heaven's sake, when was the last time Genji was even off this island?

So in the end, while I can't absolve Genji of blame, I feel more sorry than anything else and find Genji to be a mostly tragic character.

>>1814837
I thought this would be time-efficient, but it's actually really difficult to make these kinds of smooth pen-lines digitally.

>>18153134
>have to watch your only friend rape his own child, go more and more insane and die
>save his incest child from death and keep it hidden and the only thanks you get is that he wish he was dead
>his other children and are horrible and simply wish Kinzo would die sooner so they can get his money

>>18152727
No, I think it does look nice.

Should I read Higanbana 2 or whatever its called if I did not like a single short story or character?

>>18153221
What program are you using?

>>18153806
Krita. I've been using it for maybe two years now. It beats PS, Painter and Sai, just because of how good the brush engine is and how useful its clip mask groups are, but it does have some optimization problems.

>>18153870
Huh, I'm not familiar with that one. I've only really used Photoshop and Illustrator though.

What if Toya is actually Black Battler and can't think of those memories as his own cuz he doesn't want to think of himself as a dickhead

>>18153588
You don't enjoy watching cute elementary school girls get bullied? What's wrong with you?

>>18147873
anon

So what video games are you guys playing right now?

>>18155636
Life

I want to eat Yasu!

>>18155636
>>>/v/

>>18155623

BEATO

is gay

>>18155948
No u

>>18155942
ANON

>>18155636
I was playing that Doki Doki shit, since people told me it was similar to Higurashi.

But nope, it's just a shorter inferior ripoff of Totono. Although it's still pretty okay, if you consider it to be a bigger piece of a puzzle yet to come out (apparently it will be, and the hints were pretty awesome desu)

>>18156106
I liked Doki Doki for the horror. It is certainly the scariest fictional thing I have ever experienced. But most people apparently don't find it very scary.

>>18156118
>Doki Doki
>Scariest fictional thing

I think you are in need of some actually good horror games. Doki Doki only had cheap jumpscares and meta paranoia with the files thing.

And that's not even something new, as the other anon mentioned, Totono did the very same thing, including deletion of characters inside the game's folder years before in a much scarier and creepier way.

Try playing any of the first 4 Silent Hill games and they will have you see DDLC as a My Little Pony creepypasta.

>>18156118
I haven't played it or seen it.
Why do you think its so scary? Isn't it just a yandere character breaking the fourth wall?

>>18156118
>scariest fictional thing I have ever experienced
Did you like FNaF too?

>>18156140
>>18156142
I find it very unnerving that the game seems to glitch out while breaking the fourth wall. It makes me feel like I'm going insane.

I think this is something that affects some people much more than others.

>>18156151
Haven't played it.

>>18156160
What kind of glitch effects?

>>18156160
In that case, there's a much better title I would like to recommend a fellow person getting into horror games:

Play Eternal Darkness for GC.

>>18156162
Game was programmed to seem like it's glitching and having textbox modified by conscious AI Yandere character.

Funny enough, either the author played himself, of said character is a huge hypocrite, as she proceeds to mock a bunch of VN tropes and archetypes like a smartass, when she fits many of them in her own.

It just felt like the author was full of himself to me.

>>18156174
Yeah, that last part where she just talks like forever at the end, she starts saying a bunch of interesting stuff, and some outright hypocritical and egocentrical, meta-wise. That broke my suspension of disbelief rather badly, it seemed like the author himself was talking smack about how he know all of these plot elements and mocking them as unrealistic and about how much of a weirdo the player may be for playing dating sim games, and not the self-aware character.

There's a line you shouldn't cross while making meta-fiction right, not to become some kind of self insert. Umineko is a great example on how to do it wonderfully, if Featherine is an actual alter ego for Ryukishi. DDLC is overdone in that very aspect, if you actually listen to all of the said spoiler character has to say. And we are talking about 1-2 hours of non-repeated meta commentary text. It wears off in the first 30 minutes though.

It's like...
An actor in a stage play addressing the audience as the character about elements in the story being told, breaking the forth wall, but then, starts overdoing it so much, that the audience start seeing the actor talking instead of the character, killing the experience completely, in most of the cases (there are rare good exceptions depending on how you are going to use that awareness, and DDLC is absolutely not in the list).

That's also the reason why Totono is just so much better overall, as it keeps its identity without sililly going that far with its meta use.

>>18156106
It's kind of sad that if JAST ever decides to release Tonono in English now it will probably be labeled as a Doki Doki rip-off

>>18156208
Would Tonono be worth reading if I've watched the short video on Youtube with English translation?

>>18156221
The buildup for said translated scenes make them absolutely more efficient in getting the job done. But it's an experience to be done blind in my opinion, you might have ruined yours, unfortunately.

Same goes to DDLC actually.

>>18156174
>Eternal Darkness

Not only literary examples, you guys from the 07th Expansion threads also have great taste in horror games too. I'm so happy to see that you are men of culture as well.

>>18156227
Why are some games ruined to a degree if you know of their metafictional elements, while Umineko isn't?

>>18156269
Probably because Umineko's world is so difficult to truly grasp. It can't just be spoiled by a single screenshot or sentence.

>By now I have fallen into the dilemma of thinking, “for what reason am I writing my works?”. Am I writing because I want to pamper my readers? Or am I writing for the joy of writing itself? Of course I want to see wonderful deductions like yours KEIYA. To have their works read and find reactions towards it, that’s one of the greatest joys of every writer. But if I go online now and search for reactions, it’s much easier to find really harsh impressions. If they do have a point, then I’m glad, but there are actually many people who seem to have never read the work at all and just looked up some of the answers, who are now saying “it might have been in the story, but…”. If I read something like “Can’t he write on his own?”, then I lose my confidence. Though, when I read thoughts like yours, then I actually get better again. After the release of EP8 it became especially harsh. I thought about retiring after Umineko. That is why Umineko has a culprit who can only be understood by people who think. I wanted to give it a culprit that cannot be copypasted. In that sense, I think YASU is a groundbreaking invention.

Why did Ryukishi say this and still approve the manga, which pretty much tells you who the culprit is?

>>18156439
because he learned the hard truth that people are dumb, cannot think for themselves and need a simple answer

>>18156466
Unfortunately, this is probably it.

No wonder he made it in some other medium too, not to break his word too much.

Hopefully though, because of the manga, we don't have nearly as many haters as before (it's actually difficult to find Umineko haters lately, to be honest)

>>18156497
>>18148899

>>18156439
He reveals who the culprit is in that same interview though

>>18156439
He briefly explained it in another interview

>In the original version, in order to leave room for imagination for the reader to solve the mystery, I chose not to draw Sayo’s secrets in great detail (of course, it’s still possible to grasp, but I didn’t show things in a way where everyone would get it.)
>With the manga version of Umineko, however, we considered the work to be a “period” to the “sentence” that is the world of Umineko.
>Because of this, when I met with Natsumi-sensei [Kei Natsumi, the artist of the manga adaptation of Umineko’s eighth episode], I asked her to show all the secrets in a way that can easily be understood by anyone.

>>18156535
It's like, he never reveals it in the work or medium per se.

He never goes full explicit unlike the manga. God, I love the manga, but it just feels like the essence of the mystery in the VN counterpart is completely missing in there, the "game between author and reader".

>>18156572
This, pretty much.

>>18156636
To be fair, up to this day, the manga is self marketed as the answer book for Umineko, for people who don't wanna bother rereading that behemoth of a VN multiple times.

Why is Lion so fuckable.

>>18156664
Because he is hot.

>>18156664
Because Will and Lion are so incredibly cute together.

So... I didn't hear too much about "Renai Harem Game Shuuryou no Oshirase ga Kuru Koro ni", and since I can't even get RAWs for it, can someone tell me how good is it?

>>18156980
Found some RAWs here:
http://lhscans.com/manga-renai-harem-game-shuuryou-no-oshirase-ga-kuru-koro-ni-raw.html

It's starts like shit and then picks up rather nicely.

Not "R07 seal of quality" material just yet though.

>>18156439
If I ever figure it out, I'll tell you. Of course, there's a good chance of me going literally insane before then, so.

>>18157054
Rude.

>>18156980
>I can't even get RAWs for it
Come on.

How can I play the higurashi steam versions with a ps2 patch(voices, sprites, background) and is it a good idea to also patch the music?

>you will never spank Ushiromeeya Mareea
Why live?

>still no umineko 2

>>18157837
Don't remind me.

>>18157837
But that's WTC4.

>>18156142
It starts off with the warning “This game is not suitable for children or those who are easily disturbed", so it plants the seed that something goes wrong but you're unsure of exactly what that is or when it will happen. For the first few hours, it's a very normal-looking game. I was trying to look into the interactions to find something deeper and sinister because of that warning, but I eventually gave up and decided to enjoy the cuteness and simplicity of it, yet still having a kneejerk reaction to anything suspicious that caught my eye during interactions and reading poems.
Later on, one of the characters talks about her depression in a way I found surprisingly serious and relatable and it got me wondering if that's the “easily disturbed” part it was trying to warn about in the beginning. There's also small hints about the other girls having their own struggles up to this point but nothing is outright said.

When it got to the end of the first act, that's where it shocked me most because I had so many theories about what other directions the game would go and I was telling myself to stop being so paranoid and was finally getting myself comfortable. I felt like an idiot for falling into such a trap and the game phrases it to place the blame on the player's choices. I wasn't even going after a specific girl in my playthrough because I was trying to avoid this type of scenario in the first place.

The second act is where the glitches happens and the paranoia kicks in for me. Now anything can happen, and you don't know what's going on or why. I finally grew comfortable to the game only to have it pulled under me and taunted. Everything that you have grown familiar with in the game's world and characters falls apart, and you no longer feel in control of it anymore as a player. I finally started to like these bland characters and care about them, and after seeing what happened at the end of the first act made me worried how much worse it will get for them.
I'll admit that some of the glitchy horror effects it had were really corny and made me laugh, but it still really unnerved me for the most part because of the blind build-up to it. Not everyone will share my experience, especially now that the game has grown so popular and near-impossible to go in blind with no expectations.

>you will never kiss Autisma's lips
Why live?

I whipped this up recently. Ange and Featherine have some fun interactions.

>>18156572
>With the manga version of Umineko, however, we considered the work to be a “period” to the “sentence” that is the world of Umineko
Why is Ep 9 a thing then

>>18159136
Ryukishi said it would take place in the middle of Chiru. Probably after EP6, since we don't know how much time passed between it and EP8.

I hope it expands the metaworld and shit.

>>18157994
Yeah, true horror is when nothing makes sense and you're unaware of the rules.

Did Bern/Lambda cause Asumu's death?

Is there any reason that BATTLER, MARIA and EVA-BEATRICE wont live on in the meta after episode 8?

>>18160243
Is there any reason anyone wouldn't live on in the meta?

How can Ikuko use red text in the real world?

>>18160398
Because rules don't apply to her.

What is regarded as the best and worst episode of Umineko?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XOofundt74I

>>18160398
The real world is a creation of Featherine Auausomething and Ikuko is her avatar.

She's not a real world writer being portrayed as a creator witch in a fictional metaworld that exists below reality. It's the opposite.

She's a creator witch that exists above the meta itself, in the realm of the gods. The Featherine we see during the story is simply her avatar in the meta. And Ikuko is her avatar in the real world, which exists BELOW the meta.

That's why she can use the red truth in the real world.
That's why she can modify reality in the metaworld and literally "write" how Lambda died.
That's why she doesn't seem to age in the magic ending.
That's why Ikuko's backstory is so convenient.

A super rich, eccentric mystery novel author that lives alone and "just happened" to find both Battler and the confession message bottle (in the manga). And she just happens to be the kind of eccentric person that would let some guy with amnesia live with her.

That doesn't mean that Ikuko isn't a real person or that Battler is living with a literal witch with knowledge of the meta. Ikuko is normal human, but she, along with her entire family and backstory, was "written" into the real world by Featherine to serve as her avatar.

This means that the meta is even more real than the so called "real world". It's not fiction, it's actually a higher plane of existence. The different gameboards in Umineko exist as fictional works written by Ikuko in the real world, but since they are "possible" worlds, they also exist for real in the sea of kakera and meta-Beatrice's games take place in them. Both interpretations are correct at the same time.

This interpretation makes even more sense when you think about Higurashi. That wasn't some fictional book, it really happened. The Higurashi fragments are on the same level as the real world of Umineko.

Meta-Rika ascended to the meta in Higurashi, called herself Bernkastel and tried to find a happy world for piece Rika. She had already given up on that world and didn't give much of a shit about Rika's story anymore, but she had to help her in order to cut the chains that tied her to the Hinamizawa territory, be acknowledged as a witch by Featherine and have the freedom to go anywhere in the kakeraverse.

Featherine turns her favorite protagonists into cat servants. That's why Bernkastel is her miko and why she turns into Ikuko's actual cat in a LOWER plane of existence (the real world). Featherine gave her a real world vessel.

>>18160848
If Featherine created the world then characters would probably refer to her as a god rather than 'like a god'

Why was this part cut from the manga?

>>18160687
EP5 is usually considered the best. EP3 is close.

EP8 and EP6 are often considered the worst.

EP4 and EP7 are the comfiest. 7 has a great atmosphere and 4 is so fucking long and awkwardly paced that you can always find an interesting or comfy scene that feels new because you totally forgot about it. It's easy to get lost in Ange and Maria's worlds for a few hours and find a bunch of scenes or conversations that you didn't remember at all.

But EP2 is actually the best episode in all of Umineko. It's perfect on a re-read and has all the ingredients that make Umineko what it is. The only thing it lacks is red/blue truth battles, but that's mostly a Chiru thing. The first actual battle doesn't happen until the EP4 Tea Party.

EP6 is probably the best episode in Chiru. At least on a re-read. It has awesome magic battles on Rokkenjima, Erika trying to force a logic error and is heavily focused on Sayo.

As a story, EP2 is the best of them all. As a meta rollercoaster, EP6 is the best. That's my opinion. I can't really choose a "worst" episode because I love them all. I guess EP8 would be the worst, but only because all the others were better. It doesn't do anything wrong, it's just that the others are even better.

>>18160895
You could argue that the realm of the gods is our world. Ryukishi is the god of the WTC universe and his avatar in the meta is Featherine. She's "like a god" but not really a god because she's still a character in the story.

You could say that Ryukishi is her real form in the world above the meta. Her power to modify the meta and do whatever she pleases with the meta-plot relies on Ryukishi's will.

>>18160914
Episode 2 does at least have a couple of good red truth battles. I remember particularity liking the one about the key to the Chapel which was Battler's first victory IIRC

>>18160900
What the fuck? It was?

I'm reading the "third arc" of Subahibi and holy shit. This VN is exactly what I expected from WTC5. There are so many similarities with Ryukishi's works in so many ways that I feel like I'm reading a brand new When They Cry story. I'm so fucking happy that I discovered this.

If you are tired of waiting for Ryukishi's new story, you must read this shit. The mystery, the themes, the way it shatters your expectations and how the plot is constructed. Even the super long and misleading slice of life parts. This feels like something Ryukishi would write. It has that the same "scent", as Ange would put it.

Get it from Erogedownload. There is an uncensor patch in the dowload section, don't forget it. It's necessary to restore a certain CG that was removed from the official English release.

Go into it with low expectations and avoid spoilers like a madman. Don't look it up on Youtube, don't search for images, don't even look at the comments in the download page. Everything on the internet is a fucking spoiler and I already bumped into a couple of lines that I shouldn't have read. Nothing important, though.

Also, the description of the game on Erogedownload spoils the first half of the second arc for some reason. Don't even bother reading it. Just download all the parts and the restoration patch and get the fuck out of there.

>>18161084
And yes, the opening takes a loooong time to show up. There is nothing wrong with your game. Don't go online wondering why the fuck there is no opening and risk being spoiled.

>>18161084
Subahibi is good stuff, but the sexually explicit scenes are hugely unnecessary and fucks with the experience imo. Should have been All Ages for me to consider on pair with Higurashi in quality writing. Umineko still is some leagues above though.

Fuck, R07 at least say ANYTHING about the release date for the love of good, be it Umineko 9 or WTC 5, I can't fucking wait anymore.

>>18161118
Yeah, some VNs just work so much better All Ages. I for one would never wanna see a +18 Clannad. Reminder that most of the hentai stuff in Key and TypeMoon VNs suck ass.

>>18161118
I think it's a good thing that the game doesn't shy away from showing sexually explicit scenes. I think they are mostly well written and the characters wouldn't be the same without them. Some are really WTF, but they still add to the characterization or serve as comic relief.

They are nothing spectacular as fap material, though. Just good. They would be 8/10 if the characters had pubic hair, but that's practically nonexistent in Japanese media in general.

>>18161126
The sex scenes in Kanon are pretty terrible, I agree with that. But I still like them and would never play a censored version. I enjoy the art style and want to see as many different CGs as possible.

>>18161084
I remember at least one Higurashi reference.

>>18161196
Yeah the sex scenes suck because Kanon literally can't have sex, dumbass.

>>18161196
I think the quality writing in smutty VNs is mostly non-existent. They just suck in a literary perspective. And japanese literature have tons of better examples, like, any Murakami book with sex scenes. They never feel overdone, and many are fairly descriptive. The difference is that Eroges are written mostly with masturbation in mind, not with actual development in the characters involved in the act.

I rather have only the good stuff than get cheap porn in a good work. I think the only VN I've seen with well written porn was France Shoujo, that's the only one I would think it would blend well as an erotic thriller.

That said, I do have examples of good VNs that only work with their badly written porn that makes the experience so much funnier and better for that exact reason (which isn't the case of SubaHibi at all, as the work in hand is so much more than that, and not at all fun).

Rance is a primary one.

>>18161126
I think the problem with h-scenes in KEY novels is that they often feel like an afterthought. They are kind of bland and boring. They are only decent because "holy fuck, Ayu is canonically getting fucked" and because they are referenced ONCE after the fact. I don't see the point of playing an All-ages version, though. The standard game literally gives you the choice of fucking the girl or just sleeping with her.

I think the problem is that Kanon and Air are very romantic and innocent stories. KEY was basically forced to write lame sex scenes because something more kinky and perverted would be completely out of place. I can't imagine Nayuki ahegaoing and saying dirty lines straight out of a doujin.

Considering getting this Subahibi game on steam just on the basis that it was mentioned in this thread, I didn't read any of the other stuff about it.
Should I get the adult patch?

>>18161254
Not sure if there's a complete version of it all ages, so yeah, maybe the 18+ pack is your only option.

>>18161254
The "adult patch" unlocks 90% of the game. The version on Steam has no porn but only covers what is basically the prologue.

I'd buy it on Steam to support the creators and download the already patched version mentioned in this thread, along with the other patch. I wouldn't risk looking for the patch myself, since it can be a bit confusing and you'll inevitably run into spoilers while figure out where you are supposed to download it.

>>18161254
The is no all-ages version. The porn is integrated into the story and without it the plot wouldn't make sense. The steam version is basically an incomplete demo because Steam doesn't allow eroges.

The whole concept of "all-ages" (implying that kids don't want to or shouldn't see tits) and the fact that Steam doesn't allow games with nudity is fucking ridiculous to me. Puritans belong in a mental institution.

>>18161084
I don't think it's equal to Higurashi or Umineko, but it's very, very close. And it definitely reminds me of both WTC stories in a strange but satisfying way. I don't want to spoil anything here though.

>>18161084
The "mysteries" are Higurashi levels of unfair and you have to come up with a lot of crazy theories to try and explain how the story works and how everything is connected. But it's Umineko levels of fun and it feels great when a leap of logic leads you to an explanation that seems to make sense of everything. Only for it to be destroyed 5 hours later.

It's no Umineko, but fuck me if I didn't enjoy trying to understand all that crazy shit. I wish I could read it for the first time again.

>>18160848
>Midori will never leave that horrible fucking school and move to Hinamizawa
Will Ryukishi ever write a loli character that doesn't suffer horribly or doesn't have some kind of mental disorder?

Speaking of that, it's interesting how the Hinamizawa Syndrome appears to be a mental disorder but is actually a physical disorder. It's a microscopic parasite living in your brain that fucks up your chemical balance when it's agitated. Hinamizawa Bus Stop makes it even bigger and creepier. Yasu's furniture complex is kind of the opposite. She has a physical injury, but all that stuff about being a disgusting maggot that nobody will ever love and the gender dysphoria is all in her mind.

>>18161308
It's not like we care about sex scenes, we care about the writing of them. And almost all of them are just retarded with cringeworthy lines that could easily be toned down in an "all ages" version.

Yu-No remake did this, sexual content still there, yet great and all ages, better than the original.

>>18158594
If I was in Yasu's situation, I would secretly share all the gold with Best Mom so she'd let me live in her house and play with her loser autistic kid every day.

>you'll never live with Maria and get paid to spend time with her and hug her when she throws a tantrum
>you'll never sleep with Maria and feel her warmth all night long while Rosa looks the other way because you are making her filthy rich and you have no dick anyway

Does Batora ever act like a pervert outside of the two episodes written by Yasu?

Is that supposed to be foreshadowing for the fact that Batora is the author behind the rest of the stories?

>>18161746
More like Yasu wants him to become sexually interested in here.

It's kinda sad.

The rest are forgeries.

>>18161782
Her*

Also, it's kinda interesting that sexuality was such a major theme in a visual novel, not even Yuri/Yaoi stuff do that.

>>18161746
Well, he goes full "mindblowing anon" in EP5 as he describes in extreme detail how his adorable loli sister is having diarrhea all over the place and how that fact is super embarrassing for girls, to the point where they pretend that they don't poop.

Battler is a sophisticated pervert.

>>18161801
You over-interpreted that scene, man...

This isn't Made in Abyss.

>>18161875
I don't remember lolis being forced to shit themselves in Made in Abyss.

>>18161084
I read the first chapter and dropped it because it was awful. It was like a fucking Lucky Star yuri fanfic until the last 10 minutes.

>>18161654
I wonder if Maria would've grown out of her childish habits and cringeworthy verbal tics. I can easily imagine her playing with dolls in middle school while her 12 year old bullies are already slutting it up with boys.

>>18161898
That was a terrible mistake, anon. You are missing out on a good story. It's like dropping Onikakushi before it gets interesting.

Also
>implying that slice of life isn't enjoyable

>>18161898
It's supposed to feel like that because SPOILERS.

>>18161893
You probably didn't read the elevator scene, not that that was the worst example to be made out of many others.

And the fetichism in there overall goes levels above of the bearable scenarios (doesn't help the author is an admitted loli-shota perv).

Point is, Umineko has some little lines of loli lewding, courtesy of Battler, but those are rather minimal and the one with Ange isn't either countable (that description wasn't intended to be sexually arousing unless you yourself is a huge perv).

Made in Abyss have straight examples of kinky stuff going on, and self aware characters commenting and blushing about it (fucking Nanachi directly implying that Reg was sniff loli piss and blood for arousal out of nowhere is a good example).

That shit ruins that series so much.

>>18161898
You have to go deeper down the rabbit hole.

>>18161921
Onikakushi was fun since the beginning though. The slice of life in that first chapter of Subahibi was centered mostly on how everyone wanted to fuck Yuuki, it became really one-tone and boring after a while. But then again I read it a few years ago, I'll probably try it again.

>>18161951
Agreed, the first chapter fucking sucks.

But yeah, you stopped right before the legit amazing parts start appearing.

>>18161951
I started appreciating it more on a reread. Same with Higurashi. Fuck all that depressing shit, I just want Mion and the others to play silly games.

>>18161935
You make it sound like the loli lewds don't improve the series. That makes it unique.

You never see girls mooning in anime. Or girls appearing naked for pure comic relief. It's always men and never girls, let alone lolis.

The idea of a girl's butt being shown for comic relief is pretty lewd. You are expected to laugh at how silly her butt looks or how dirty the act of showing her butt is. It's not meant to be erotic, but ironically that makes it more erotic. It's like the girl is being humanized and therefore degraded and humiliated, dragged down from her pedestal.

The only example I can think of is that one episode of Tamako Market where they see a "peach" floating on the onsen and turns out to be the niggerloli's butt. Oh, and that one episode of Higurashi Kira, although everything in that season is meant to be erotic.

>>18162019
This is the guy who's always talking about Rena's butt, isn't it? Seek help my man.

>>18162028
This

>>18162093
Why is anime Shannon so cute

>>18162111
She looks so wary of everything.

>>18161241
>The difference is that Eroges are written mostly with masturbation in mind, not with actual development in the characters involved in the act.
What's the point of having a explicit sex scene then? You'd have to be dead inside to sit through a sex scene thinking only about the character development while ignoring the porn element. You can't have one without the other and still expect the scene to be good.

>>18162273
You can make great sex scenes without dedicating them to be 10+ minutes long fap material. Sex scenes not always are made for people immersed in a story to masturbate to it, you know.

Unless we are talking about shitty smutty writing like 50 shades of Gray or eroges in general, that sometimes even goes as far as having autistic onomatopoeia (like *spurt*, *squirt* and alike) and some good deal of moaning and stupidly unrealistic dirty talk and/or "iku"x100.

Sex scenes in visual novel, much like porn and hentai in general, are just almost always cringeworthy and badly written as fuck. You don't pair actual good storytelling or development with that garbage, but with a better written "All Ages" approach for it (just meaning it's not freaking porn, and it can have very descriptive sex scenes too or whatever. as if romances with sex scenes would suddenly be all classified as "erotic" if they aren't smutty enough).

If the story focus isn't porn, don't make it porn. Make a descriptive and hot sex scene if you want, just don't make it a poorly written smut fanfic. That's the deal breaker with h-scenes with me.

I can't take "defenseless Tohsaka's anus" seriously, and it ruins the whole thing to me in 15 minutes just to think how retarded what I just read was conpared to the awesome story I was reading just before.

Same goes to SubaHibi h-scenes and almost every VNs h-scenes I've seen really, unless they are made to be porn focused (Nukige). In that case I just treat it as such, just porn, with sometimes a good plot.

DAME DA
ZENZEN DAME DA

Does Yasu change her pantsu when she goes from Shannon to Kanon?

So in half a year I plan on doing to a con and doing my first cosplay in over a decade and going as the man himself, so I was wondering what do you guys think would make me a good Goldsmith, either through actions or what I should say, other than the mandatory Ooooooh Beatoriche.

>>18163067
drink an entire bottle of absinthe before going

>>18163098
I second this,
There's no Kinzo without his best friend, according to EP1

>>18163067
Acquire picture of Beato.

>Start re-reading Higurashi
>Prepare to be sp00kified, listen to creepy music and shit
>Rena jumps out
Holy fuck.

so how did Kanon lock himself into the chapel in episode 3?

>>18164212

>>18164269
but beato said in red the doors couldnt be locked without the key

>>18164285
He used his master key. The master keys can be used on any door and they're seperate from the 6 room keys. Yasu has 2 master keys, one for Shannon and one for Kanon. She used the first master key to lock room 6 and the second to lock room 1

>>18164472
I thought the master keys didnt work on the chapel door

do you need prequels for danganronpa v3 or can i dig in big boy style, like boo yeah?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qWNZrJUw4eo

>>18164588
Don't bother. Play DR1 and maybe DR2. DRv3 is not worth the trouble

>>18164527
there is still the chapel key

>>18164608
>Excluding the best game in the franchise

What is your problem anon

>>18164615
the chapel key is on kinzos body when they find it

Its Mikami Shiori's (YUA's VA) birthday in Japan right now!
Do you have any birthday wishes for this 29 year old woman?

>>18164630
But it's the worst

>>18164650
It's everything the other games were, but even better and even more meta in the final twist.

Unless you dislike meta despair (what are you doing in a 07th Expansion thread in this case), there's no way you would dislike V3.

It's literally a minor scale Umineko.

>>18164679
I hate that the mastermind broke the rules in Chapter 1.

I hate that "you" are the culprit in Chapter 1. You can literally see her thoughts. It's a 'good' twist, yes, but I can't respect an unreliable narrator/detective.

>>18164687
>but I can't respect an unreliable narrator/detective.
You mean like in Umineko?

>>18164687
>I can't respect an unreliable narrator/detective.

>>18164679
>It's literally a minor scale Umineko
It's a minor scale Umineko in veeeery different circunstances though. Umineko goes for a literary metafictional approach with some Jungian-like collective unconscious structure, I think. At least the whole deal with Divina Commedia stuff all over it points that out too much for me.

V3 goes for a Truman Show Plot, rather wonderfully, indeed.

V3 is amazing and was the most actual despair I had with the series, but I wouldn't compare too much with Umineko despite the glaring similarities.

>>18164697
There's a difference between a stupid detective and an unreliable detective.

>>18164699
I don't remember talking about Keiichi

>>18164687
The detective in the story never was the narrator, but the literal character which was declared from the very start "Ultimate Detective". And he is never the culprit.

Do you even Agatha Christie "And there were none", anon?

>>18164708
Keiichi was an unreliable narrator in Onikakushi.

>>18164718
While obviously she wasn't the detective in the end, you still had access to her thoughts. Yeah there's that screenshot floating around saying "I dropped everything and ran after him", but that still doesn't fit with me.

And while this is a point which can be argued about, my first point still stands.

>Do you even Agatha Christie "And there were none", anon?

It's been ages, what are you talking about again? The judge, was it?

>>18164719
I'm well aware, what about it? Never said I liked/disliked him.

>>18164527
You're right, I forgot. I've been searching for a different solution for a while now and the only possible thing I can find is this page from Episode 2's manga which shows that the chapel door apparently has a locking mechanism on the inside which doesn't require a key. I don't remember if this is in the VN

However, earlier in Episode 2 Beatrice says
>It is impossible to unlock the lock to the chapel without the chapel's key
in red, so I'm not really sure how this is supposed to work

>>18164755
The chapel was never locked in the first place.

>>18164757
Talking about the chain locked room though

>>18164755
I knew it, it was rosatrice all along

>>18164699
That's a different type of unreliable narration, though. K1 may be hallucinating and seeing bullshit, but he is really experiencing everything we are shown. There aren't any "this never happened" scenes in Higurashi, so you have to focus on explaining why the characters are experiencing all these weird things.

Umineko is unreliable in the sense that the omniscient narrator lies to you and paints everything with magic that never happened. You have to see through the magic and figure out what it means, but you are never supposed to take it at face value and explain why Rosa is being chased by an army of goats.

The Onikakushi nightmare was real for K1, while Beatrice's murders are simply a magic interpretation of the true events.

>>18164762
The chain had to start with the first floor parlor, as it was the only room which had windows that could be reached from the outside. After Shannon's (fake) corpse was found inside, the adults had moved on the the next room. Notice the sequence: first floor, second floor, third floor, second floor, basement. Because of this, they had to spend a considerable amount of time moving from place to place, and after they left the parlor, it stopped being a closed room because of the broken window. Thus Shannon got up, left the room through said window, changed into Kanon and entered the chapel, all the while the adults kept running around in the mansion, giving her ample time to do so. The chapel door was, once again, open from the beginning, so she just had to enter, close the door behind her and then fake Kanon's death.

>>18164762
It was never locked in EP3 either. Shannon escaped from the parlor through the window the relatives broke earlier, went to the chapel and locked it from inside.

>>18160900
Why does a metaphysical witch care about if something is real or not?

>>18164795
>>18164805
the red truth says "No device exists which can lock them without a key, such as an auto-lock"

>>18164835
You don't need to unlock a door that is already open.

>>18164838
but you need to lock it to create a closed room

>>18164838
>went to the chapel and locked it from inside.

>>18164843
>>18164846

Yasu had the master key as Kanon and the key for the first parlor in the chapel.

[red]"All five master keys were discovered, each in the pocket of one of the servants!"[/red]

>>18164852
The master keys don't work on the chapel

>>18164852
This is why we're discussing this in the first place. The master keys don't work on the chapel door and the chapel key was in a different room

>>18164866
I guess a possibility is that he entered through a window

>>18164866
>>18164858
[blue]It was never declared that Kanon's corpse didn't have the chapel's key with it[blue]

>>18164880
I'm pretty sure they said they found the Chapel Key in the room that came before.

How else would they have known to go to the chapel?

>>18164880
The chapel key was on Kinzo's corpse. They used it to unlock the chapel door so Kanon obviously didn't have it

>>18164884
Anon from above, the door was never locked, that's an error in the manga.

it was never stated if either of the last three rooms, including the chapel, were locked.

"Illusions to illusions. In the closed-room ring, the end and the beginning overlap." - Willard H. Wright

>>18164900
Beatrice says that all the keys were locked inside in Episode 4's Tea Party
>In short, all keys related to the linked closed rooms were locked inside the linked closed rooms!!

>>18164959
That only means all the keys related to the case were in the rooms for the case.

>>18164959
>the linked close rooms

>>18161746
>Does Batora ever act like a pervert outside of the two episodes written by Yasu?
Yes, see GM Battler and stuff. It's just that the plot got more serious as you progressed into the story and R07 loves to pull the whole bait and switch.

>>18161538
>She has a physical injury, but all that stuff about being a disgusting maggot that nobody will ever love and the gender dysphoria is all in her mind.
I mean, have you seen the stuff people say about Yasu.

>>18165088
People say bad shit about everyone. Yasu has not experienced any of these prejudices on Rokkenjima. It's all Yasu's mental state and I cannot blame Yasu for that, being confused about what the fuck is up with your body like that and the fact you want to be with all your cousins is pretty messed up to be told all at once. Nanjo and Genji are pieces of shit for not suggesting or bringing in any Therapist to help with an obviously mentally damaged, now Family Head that they themselves made.

>>18165068
It's natural that he would act like a pervert as the GM. But talking about Jessica's boobs or his sister's butthole as a piece makes him a master perv. He gets away with it because he's not some creepy fat otaku.

>>18133685
I think his problem is that he keeps talking about his theories or thoughts (which is OK, since that's the reason people watch LP's in the first place), but he does it without stopping the game, so he ends up missing most of what's going on. Why he does that, I'll never know. I think his videos would be less infuriating if he spent 10 minutes or whatever sharing his theories without worrying about advancing in the story. Pause the damn game and keep reading after you finish talking about unrelated stuff.

I mean, he spent the entirety of his last video sharing his theories about Shannon and Kanon. Which is perfectly fine. But he kept "playing" at the same time, so now he has NO idea that Beatrice had a daughter even though the characters literally spent 20 minutes talking about it. He may as well have CTRL'd through that part of the story. God damn.

>>18165348
I assume a guy like him will be one of the hates of EP8 when he finishes, he just sounds like that kind of person.

>>18164959
I think I understand your confusion about "locked inside".

This "locked" in her sentence is rather ambigous in japanese. The manga isn't wrong either, but the translation may be kinda off for both.

"閉じ込める" can be either locked up or just closed up (referring to the linked closed rooms), meaning, closed in the rooms without being necessarily locked with a key.

For this particular case, it would be better for them to translate as "In short, all keys related to the linked closed rooms were closed inside the linked closed rooms!" in my opinion.

This is used in both manga while Yasu was explaining and in the VN when referring to the trick in EP4.

"Kanon closed himself up in the room, but never locked it with a key, people came to the chapel after finding the key in Kinzo's body and see him."

Problem solved. If only Battler asked to confirm in red that all linked closed rooms were locked or not

He completely missed that so badly.

>>18165348
>tfw you can never look at Beatrice again without remembering NEMU

>>18161935
>That shit ruins that series so much.
Get a load of this loser.

How decent would a regular novelization of Umineko be?

>>18165781
There already is one actually. It seems to have been cancelled though. The first volume of Episode 7 was released in 2015 and there hasn't been any more since

>>18162512
Yeah but what about moege H scenes, neither porn nor badly written cringe, but ART that HEALS the SOUL.

Isn't it weird that Maria has never seen Jessica naked even though they are family?

>>18165817
Is it just the novel's text copypasted into a book?

>>18166069
I'm not sure, but probably not. KEIYA is credited as co-author along with Ryukishi so they must have done something to it

>>18166127
Interesting. I wonder if red text is red

>>18166254
Why is Asmo smiling

>>18166177
I unfortunately can't find any images of the Umineko novels aside from the covers. It's impossible to find for some reason

I did find some images of the Higurashi novels though. Apparently they have blood splatter on some of the pages. Really cool

>>18166665
That's awesome.

>>18165144
>People say bad shit about everyone.
Yeah, but there is a difference between calling someone a dick and a disgusting tranny freacks. Yasu knows there is something "wrong" with her body and cannot change it.

>>18166263
as a demon she's perfectly fine with sucking someone's cock

>>18166263
as a demon of lust she's perfectly fine with sucking someone's cock

What the hell, why am I wearing a pirate hat right now? Could a witch be behind this?

>>18160848
I hope we get introduced to some of Lambda's friends in EP9, which I assume will take place after EP6.

I'd love to see more of the magical narrative. Like the arrival to the relatives in EP8 but with even more magic. I want to see Kinzo as Goldsmith and more furniture romance. I loved the ending of Battler's story in EP6 and I'd love to see a continuation of that. It was like the EP3 golden land scene but without the trolling at the end.

>>18160848
This is pretty mind-blowing.

The world of the gods is so incomprehensible that it's a step above the world where every possible parallel universe can be visualized as a fragment. That's such an insane concept.

I hope that's what Ryukishi had in mind. I'd hate for that explanation to be debunked in the new WTC.

>>18168117
The kakeraverse alone is a much more interesting concept than the usual "infinite universe created by God" that we see everywhere.

The real world universe in WTC isn't necessarily infinite, but there is no logical problem with it being infinite either. Even if it's infinite, that infinity is contained within one of the endless fragments that represent parallel realities. That's the true nature of the world. A fascinating concept indeed.

>>18165817
It wasn't cancelled, it entered in hiatus.

Kodansha BOX says the next volume is coming soon for a while, but again, we had a rather long 2 years hiatus before EP5's publishing as well.

>>18166069
Nope, they made some clever tweaks to the narrative and presentation of the text here and there.

The coolest part is that they also change the text format during Tea Parties for a Theatrical approach (like a stage play book adaptation).

That goes for those "ending credits" explaining the results as well, which assume a different format (one tategaki -light novel format- instead of the double tategaki it had up to that point -which would be the standard bunko format, for novels-)

And yeah, the colored text is included in here.
EP7 is much more difficult to adapt in book, so I'm guessing they are wondering what to do with it, now that they arrived at the "Theater" part.

>>18166069
That would be stupid since there are no character sprites, no backgrounds, no sound effects and no music to set the mood of the story. You obviously need to heavily alter the text to include all of that.

>>18165781
whats the point without the music?

>>18168185
I mean, I know visual novel is a superior medium for presenting text in every way, but book masterpieces do exist, and they depend of no OST, ya know.

Umineko's content would do just fine without them, even if the experience is even better in the VN (much like any book would be imo, with enough care).

Now I want a Lord of the Rings VN adaptation.

We already have the audiobooks and the movies' OST, so it's possible, right?

>>18164699
holy fuk what is wrong with his left hand and why did I never notice

>>18168207
A Neverending Story VN adaptation would be fucking insane. The book is meta as hell.

If I knew how this shit works, I'd try to make it myself. It would be hard to do the environments justice, though.

>>18161746
The meta is real, forgeries+written episodes are the meta of the meta.

>>18167739
>I'd love to see more of the magical narrative. Like the arrival to the relatives in EP8 but with even more magic. I want to see Kinzo as Goldsmith and more furniture romance. I loved the ending of Battler's story in EP6 and I'd love to see a continuation of that. It was like the EP3 golden land scene but without the trolling at the end.
Meh, personally I'd prefer more side-stories.

More on Genji.

More on Kumasawa.

More of Lion and Will homosex adventures.

You get it.

>>18168117
Gods aren’t beholden to linear time and space.

This means that if a God got pissed at you they’d shitpost comments against you for your whole life.

Some people create worlds upon achieving CHIM. Others troll people on Twitter the internet. No use trying to resist since cause and effect are all reversed and you’ll inevitably ensure the very thing you were trying to avoid

>>18170087
>Some people create worlds upon achieving CHIM

Can we say that Vivec achieved the level of Lambda and Bern.

>>18170804
I don't know - achieving CHIM does let you play with time like it's puddy and exist in many places at once, but I don't know if it protects you from Anduin once he's tasked to destroy the world and create a new one.

Then again since you can exist in any point in time you just have to avoid the end times.

Leaked WTC5 screenshots

>>18171028
Aliens exists honk-honk!

>>18171094
I'd an alien waifu if she didn't like lay eggs in my brain that hatch and eat me from the inside

>>18171004
CHIM is a realization that everythig in the world is fictional and coming with that is an ability to write the self in this fiction. If you think about it is really similar to how our favorite witches operate. Also the quote right from the wiki
>CHIM is often associated with Love, which seemingly connects it to the concept of God actually being "Love."
Like, holy shit. How wasn't I able draw a connection for so long.

>>18171152
Reminds me of Vampire the Masquerade's setting, where mages are just those able to realize everything is a dream.

And also the technocracy, who do their best to keep structure in the dream because a world powered solely by whims and emotions is utterly terrifying. Something Umineko communicated very well in the fantasy scenes.

>>18171152
>God is love
Does that mean God has every STD there is?

please for the love of god, who is the artist behind the portraits in umineko?

>>18171507
Ain’t that the question of the day

Why do Gods care so much about free will if their existence breaks causality and basically does away entirely with the notion of free will?

What was plan 34 in Higurashi ? I forgot all the detailq

>>18171507
ekusa takahito

>>18172221
Transform people in candy.

>>18171507
Ekusa Takahito. He's also the character designer for the PS3 port

where can i stalk ryukishi on social media

>>18173278
twitter @07th_official

dont really know where he's active otherwise

Is Meta-Beatrice from episode 1-4 Yasu or a separate magical entity?

Please....someone seed the DameDame subs of the Umineko anime. I'm begging you.

>>18173672
https://mega.nz/#F!F0t23CSR!EEn18EYp40NzVyg--B-JVQ

>>18173297
thanks

>>18173777
Thank you so much!

>>18173297
Uso da!

What do you want/expect from WTC5?

>>18174129
good music
decent characters
Lambda/Bern/Erika in some form

I can't fucking believe that the episode preview for episode 3 is Shannon talking about George's love for huge tits & the fact that he brought a porn magazine to the family conference. Maybe watching the anime was a mistake.

Any time now

>>18174319
>George loves huge tits
>he never squeezed Shannon's fake pads
Goddamn it George you could have saved us all

>>18174334
Never ever. I would want them to restart from EP1 and try to fix the problems DEEN did.

>>18174468
This. Have them show up DEEN like they did with Fate.

>>18174176
>Lambda/Bern/Erika in some form
This
It's unhealthy how much I love these three

Could a ufotable Umineko adaptation from the beginning have the potential to become a big hit like Fate did?
48 episodes for the entire the series.

I just started onikakushi and was wondering why they say it has a "high difficulty"

>>18174920
Difficulty of you understanding the mystery.

>>18174879
Umineko to work in anime needs at least 60 episodes, make a way to introduce the red, blue, golden and purple truth without using something like what DEEN made, and a good director who gets the core idea of the VN. Can Ufotable make such work? I don't think so. Their track in works outside of the Nasuverse is bad, even UBW being meh. Tales was trash, the otome mobage was trash and nobody except fujoshit talked about it. Hell, the new HF movie have alot of things that didn't appear in the VN and makes no sense, outside of trying to be "cool looking" like https:// streamable. com/8osqt
That's why I don't find Ufotable that good for an Umineko anime. Maybe Madhouse could be the best choice.

>>18174961
I don't think an adaptation in general will work for Umineko.

>>18174961
The concept of someone speaking in different colors only works in a VN and looks ridiculous when you try to explain it by having floating letters appear in the air.

If you asked Beatrice how the fuck a person can SPEAK in colors, she would just say something in red to prove it. It can't make logical sense in a different medium without looking stupid.

>>18174961
Either Madhouse or SHAFT. SHAFT can probably find a unique way to pull off the colored truths as well.

>>18175054
>>18174961
I dunno, I kind of liked the effect. It was one of the few things I thought they adapted well. At least in concept.
That the text colour is different isn't what's important, only the special effect those words have, so it's really just about finding a way to present that effect in an animated form.

What if you just made the entire anime have hard coded subtitles for all dialogue.

The solution is to tell everyone to watch it on LSD so they can hear the red statements in red

>>18158594
Why doesn't Rosa send Maria to school for special kids or something? Seriously. She gets bullied every day and then her mother beats the shit out of her at home.

Some people say that Rosa's sin is anger. Others say it's lust. But I think her pride is the cause of most of her problems with Maria. She's ashamed of her daughter's behavior and tries to slap the autism out of her, but that abuse only fucks her up even more.

She has no reason not to admit that Maria is a weird, insufferable kid with special needs. She should visit a psychologist and learn how to deal with Maria. But she prefers to ignore the problem and pretend that her daughter is normal.

I can accept Genji and Nanjo not realizing that turning Lion into a tranny with no vagina or estrogen would fuck him up as an adult. They couldn't really do anything big anyway because the kid's existence had to remain secret. But Rosa is a young woman and this is the 80s. She must have known that Maria being a massive sperglord with cringy verbal tics isn't just the result of bad parenting or something that can be resolved with violence. She willingly neglected her daughter's needs for the sake of appearances.

>>18175375
There is a stigma usually with having a special needs child, especially for an esteemed family like the Ushiromiyas.

>>18175375
Maria dies either way so its fine.

>>18175375
People don't think Rosa's sin is Pride? Have people played EP2 and 4? Literally everything she does and think is about her public image.

>>18175375
More proof that George is a fedora-tier cunt that only pretends to be mature and knowledgeable but doesn't know what the fuck he's talking about. "We should leave them alone, Battler-kun. This is a problem between mother and child. She's just a bit spoiled, hahaha, let's pretend that nothing happened, ok?". He should speak with Rosa and tell her that Maria's behaviour is definitely a sign of some sort of mental issue. So much for his studies and knowledge.

>>18175447
I don't think George was studying Child Psychology.

>>18175447
You think Rosa would accept George saying that?

>>18175406
People blame it on Rosa's violent outbursts and the fact that she leaves Maria alone so she can fuck married men. But I think Maria is weird by default and shouldn't be brutally scolded for being unable to act like a neurotypical normie.

>>18175447
You can't blame George for not knowing what a normal 9 year old girl is like. He was a nerd with no friends growing up and never interacted with lolis at that age.

>>18175465
There is something really disgusting about Anime Batora's design. Those eyes look absolutely retarded. They are too big.

>>18175406
This. She is obsessed with her public image and interprets innocent comments as thinly veiled insults against her daughter. She went apeshit on a poor old lady simply because she asked how old Maria was.

Although I remember Eva asking about her age in one of the early episodes and it was clearly a malicious comment directed at Maria. I guess the way that Eva disguises insults as compliments makes Rosa suspect everyone of doing the same thing. It's such a fucked up family.

>>18175539
Everything that went wrong with the Ushirmiyas is from all of their individual upbringings.

>>18152766
>>18152816
The fact that there are only two of these compilations is a crime. I remember him being a passive aggressive faggot in literally every episode.

>>18152816
>his glasses fog up every single time
Holy shit, it's intentional. The character is supposed to be a complete faggot.

>>18175624
Is fogged up glasses the equivalent of the black witch for George?

>>18175375
Maria needs a cute pet rabbit to calm Maria down. Who cares if it shits all over the place?

>>18175826
I don't want to see Rosa tear a living rabbit in half.

>>18161084
There is a spoiler secondary character that looks like demon Kanon.

>>18174961
>Madhouse
As far as I know the only VN adaptation Madhouse has made is Chaos;Head. Sounds like a bad idea

The best choice is obviously Shaft. They already have colored text in a lot of their other shows so it wouldn't feel so out of place

What's the wr for Umineko all medals magic ending speedrun?

>>18174129
MUSIC PLEASE RYU!

What was his fucking problem?

>>18176663
Did Sayo actually love him?

>>18176663
>His problem was that he was jealous and envious of Battler and Jessica. Luckily, he realized his mistakes and changed.

>>18176691
I think the only person Sayo ever really loved was Battler.

>>18176691
It's a tough call honestly. She probably really liked him but not as much as Battler and who can blame her? If Battler never came back then it would have been fine.

>>18176759
If she didn't love him there would be no duel and no conflict of emotions.

>>18175390
Can confirm. I've lived it. Aspergers kinda hurts when none of the higher middle class side of your family recognise it as something that makes you perceive the world differently and ridicule you for not being like everyone else. I pity Maria a lot because I see myself in her. Potential, silenced and abused out of ones own kin just to "look good". Its not like the illusion of a "proper" child lasts for long or anything.

>>18176860
I think she really likes George, but she actually loves Battler because he's not a boring fuck. I always thought the duel was more about not wanting to destroy George's dream waifu.

>>18176663
george is the only character in umineko I dislike

Why did Takano sedate Rika and kill her painlessly (unless Rika taunted her), but always gave her boyfriend a drug that made him go insane and caused him to kill himself in an extremely painful manner?

>>18176765
Will WTC5 have a cowboy character?

>>18177333
George is a good guy that would have given Sayo the dick happiness if Battler hadn't come back.

>>18178180
george was a faggot, he didnt even want to sleep in the same room as him

Eva Ushiromiya is my favorite R07 character. I guess it's because the twist regarding her is not some grand thing about gender or split personalities - it's that the twist is she has merit to the stuff she says.

This is extremely true to real life - a lot of people make valid points, but they're too flawed and angry, so others are inclined to distrust them.

I like Eva so much I almost wish Umineko was about Eva as the witch and Ange as the protag, since I felt like Ange and Eva's relationship was a lot more tragic and dare I say it filled with love than Battler and Yasu's.

>>18176285
Even pressing control it took me over an hour to get through EP1-4.

Giving the number of special effect scenes in Chiru, I bet it's 2 hours long. Total of 3 or so hours minimum, no TAS.

>>18177333

Never understood the George hate. He was a dick and a loser when he was younger, but owned up to his mistakes and even admitted it all to Shannon. Furthermore, he fully supported Shannon and was ready to defy his parents for her. Plus, we know he would have accepted Shannon no matter if she could have children or not, so Sayo could have freely confessed to him.

And yet, all I see is the same old hate bandwagon. It's kinda sad.

>>18178404

>cont'd

Even if he isn't a perfect character, I don't get why people like to make him seem worse than he actually is.

>>18178404
>>18178413
It's just a tradition ever since we called him fat for the first time.

EP6 was vastly ignored regarding George by most people in here, since they blind hate him to death for the meme cause.

Someone recently recommended Subarashiki Hibi, can you tell me where the fuck I download that from? Can't find any torrent I must be retarded..

>>18178252
if george truly was a faggot there wouldn't be any problem with yasu

>>18178545
https://sukebei.nyaa.si/view/2347930

>>18178545
http://erogedownload.com/downloads/wonderful-everyday/

He was wrong on so many levels

So I've been re reading higurashi lately and I was wondering : why was Mion doing all she did in Watanagashi again ?

>>18178585
Ah right it had sexual scenes.
Thanks I'm actually retarded.

>>18178670
I can relate to Battler. When you're trying to solve a ridiculous mystery you throw everything and the kitchen sink at it. Not everyone can be Willard Wright and talk about T H E H E A R T

>>18178725
Was Kubo inspired by Ryukishi ?

>>18178691
If you don't remember this consider it a blessing and just keep re-reading, it's one of higurashi's biggest reveal

>>18178431

That's fucked up. I'd imagine Umineko fans would be, I dunno, less retarded than that.

>>18178404
because I see parts of myself in him

>>18178786
But he's correct there

>>18178691
HS and revenge

>>18178797
You're only George if you're a passive aggressive asshole who would propose to your maid girlfriend before getting to second base with her.

>>18178868
Literally me

>>18178868

>somehow this is still a meme

Hilarious.

>>18178585
>>18178592

Are these 2 different games or just different links?

>>18178404
It's just become a running joke among the fandom for everyone to hate on him.

>>18178984
It's the same game. The only difference is that the Nyaa torrent has the bestiality CG that was cut from the English version restored

>>18178809
>but he's correct here
Not him but you're right lol, I tend to forget on a unfortunate day they definitely swipped places. It actually made more sense in retrospect, Shion (originally the true Mion at birth) always had the cruelty and rudeness fitting for ruling the Sonozaki clan. Mion(the original Shion) is too pure

I want to lick and kiss Yasus whole body

>>18178404
I wanted to say this for a while, too.

>>18158594
I want to kiss Autismass kid mom,s lips, passionately.

>>18177389
Takano injected Tomitake with the drug that induces stage 5 symptoms because she wanted to cast doubt on Irie. Remember that she is supposedly dead by this point, so the only person who would've really had access to the drug at that point would be Irie, and his supposed "motive" for killing them would be because Tokyo was cutting the institute's funding. Tomitake had to die by ripping his own throat out to make it extremely obvious to Tokyo that his death was due to stage 5 Hinamizawa Syndrome.

>>18178404
Instead of living in the present, he only would talk about their future. He is too much of a dreamer instead of actually getting things down.

>>18178741
I wonder.

For reasons, is there a height chart of all the Umineko characters, preferably the fantasy ones?

>>18178545
The instructions were posted earlier in this very thread. How did you not see that? Don't forget the patch and DO NOT read the description in the site.

>>18161084

>>18161084
I love how META SPOILERS attempting to replay the second arc after finishing it gives you a brand new choice near the beginning that indirectly reveals the nature of the first arc in case you didn't figure it out yet". It was awesome

Yasu is a creepy bastard.

Chasing after that umineko/higurashi high I once had years back. And indeed, Yeah, Haha! Nothing comes remotely close to it. Even so, as to achieve that which I cannot have, I gave a quickspeedshot to Dango Ranpo V3, only to find it so-so and dropped it after 15h+. After a couple of trial and errors with other vns, ended up reading Cartagra which is the closest I could get in regards to the mystery aspect and atmosphere that seacats managed to capture quite well. Love the music too. How well are you coping anons in seeking out new ventures? Since wtc5 is as good as a lost case in terms of waiting it out.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AAqsn12qcZ8
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=edBEh2JpTEI

>>18178357
>it's that the twist is she has merit to the stuff she says.
What? Eva is a bitch.

>>18181935
Eva's suspicions are usually correct.

>>18181948
That's because she was bribed in episode 1 and she knew who the culprit is.

>>18181935
Eva is just a bitch when around her siblings, even Hideyoshi says she isn't like that outside of the family conferences. If you say inb4 Shannon in EP2, she is really in the right to get on Shannons case about going with George and people say she is a bitch because we are in Shannons shoes.

Did Eva, dare I say it, do nothing wrong?

>>18181969
She's also a bitch to Nappi because she couldn't bear children and she's jelly of her position. Also she passively-agressively criticized Jessica for being an unfit heir.

Face it, she's a bitch.

>>18181979
>Also she passively-agressively criticized Jessica for being an unfit heir.
This is true.

>>18181979
She is a bitch to Natsui because she is an extension of Krauss, the mans she hates the most. Like I said, it's sibling related. For the Jessica line, she is an unfair heir, literally everyone can agree to that, Jessica included.

Eva abused Ange for no reason

>>18181997
I'm pretty sure it's implied that Ange started it.

>>18172710
Makes me sad when people shit on the PS3 art, because the artist actually has roots in the series.

>>18181997
Eva tried really hard to like Ange but Ange rejected her at every chance she got. Ange comments on how she should have acted better because Eva was also in pain after the incident.