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Icicle Fall - Easy

Maze of Love, Halo of the Guse Kannon, Hell's Artificial Sun, Devil's Recitation, Mountain of Faith

>>18049940
Devil's Recitation, but shamefully I have yet to capture it.

>>18049940
Seamless Ceiling of Kinkaku-ji.

>>18047677
I kinda like spellcards like this because figuring out the gimmick yourself is fun. I had crazy ghetto strategies in IN extra because I didn't look at replays at all and just created my own strats.

Should i 1cc with all the solo characters in imperishable night or just up the difficulty?

>>18050273
Up difficulty

>>18049940
Not sure if I should call this my favourite, but I really like it.

i'm starting UFO right now and it's not really as hard as i thought it'd be (even though i still need to get past shou) but the little ufo things you collect are pissing me off, they just get in the way. i don't understand the point of them

>>18050344
why, do you like that spell card? are you a nazi?

>>18050376
Maybe, read the manual?

>>18050376
Mix and match ufo tokens for different results. Fill summoned UFOs with items (items required increase slightly as you progress to later stages) to get the bonus. All UFO summon kills give you a screen clear as well as a changing token. Score gained often depends on if you're at full power or not but you wouldn't want to score UFO anyway.
3 reds = 1/4 life + 1/4 life
3 greens = 1/3 bomb + 1 full bomb
3 blues = 8x score
1 red, blue, and green = turns point items into power items and vice versa + an extra changing token.

>>18050398
i'm clearly aware of what they do, i'm just expressing my displeasure
>>18050412
that's all good to know and i could probably utilize them, it's just that sometimes you're in the middle of an attack and have no way to focus on collecting those things, plus the ufo that pops up sometimes is distracting

i prefer when the games just drop you an item after a midboss, but oh well

What libraries does ZUN use to program his games? OpenGL, DirectX, or something else entirely? I know for a fact he programs in visual studio.

>>18050567
UFOs are static. Once you learn when they drop and routine you're good.

>>18050624
i'm restarting my playthrough and i could definitely see collecting the red UFOs being helpful, so i'm going to go for that. at least in the first stages when it'll be easier

>>18050627
It's possible to have full lives before Ichirin so yeah focus on that.

>>18049940
Legendary Flying Saucer

>>18050641
i've found myself dying more often trying to collect these things rather than just playing without them, but then again i only started UFO like an hour ago so i think i'll improve

>>18050695
Unfortunately, unless you're a superplayer, you'll find that you NEED those red and green UFOs for your survival. The game doesn't give much resources aside from using them.

>>18050695
As you play more you'll figure out when is safe to collect them. If the screen is riddled with bullets it's probably not the right time to go UFO hunting

anyone else have their game always crash whenever you lock windows or sometimes even just focus on another window for too long?

>>18049940
My favorite from the official games is probably https://my.mixtape.moe/brvmwa.mp4
Including fangames (that I've played), it would have to be https://my.mixtape.moe/eisfan.mp4 without a doubt.

>>18049940
If not Primordial Divine Spirit World, then maybe Secret Ceremony "Reverse Invoker" or "Secret Ceremony "Matara Dukkha," but I haven't really seen many cards that made me say "Wow, that's really cool."

Started practising for MoF extra NMNBNF, Suwako's second spell is hell on no focus.

>>18051372
Whenever you die say "kero kero".

What's the deal with the big fairy just before the final leg of Stage 4 in HSiFS? Sometimes she gives me a bomb, sometimes she gives me fuck-all. Do I have to wait before killing her, or is it based on how many bombs I have left?

>>18051903
If you bomb or die on the section right before it (with the fairies shooting the diagonal walls) you get nothing. Otherwise you get the bomb.

>>18051903
If you die or bomb she doesn't drop anything.

>>18051954
>>18051955
Like Lily White's 1up then, huh? I usually bomb the section before her, just to be safe, so I guess I'll need to practice it and not die at it anymore.

Are there any spell cards which are good for improving raw dodging skill?

>>18052368
Books, PCB s6 spam, VoWG, Fitful Nightmare, PDH, Spring final. Go nuts.

I gameovered to Kaguya like 5 times, tried Eirin and beat her in my second try!

>>18052559
EoSD is next.

>>18052466
Thank you.

I think Subterranean Animism's Extra stage is beginning to give me PTSD. I don't even get a chance to learn Koishi's spellcards because I lose so many resources to Sanae.

>>18052852
The first two cards shouldn't give you much trouble, as for the third one... just bomb it. You get 1.5 power after beating Sanae, so you can even bomb twice if you need to. Good luck with Koishi.

>>18052852
https://mega.nz/#!ZT43CazI!EsnpSNEzsuuq70rHV4sJdG5cj8tHx2Zl5aTiyTmQFwA
You (and likely others) might find this helpful for practicing SA. Not made by me, but I revised the readme to contain more detailed instructions. Good luck.

>>18050273
I say yes. Some of the solo character shots are pretty shitty, which make 1cc the game harder. You should fill your IN 1cc chart little by little when you're focusing on 1cc'ing other games as well.

>>18052368
Phantasmagoria of Flower View

Okay guys.

How the FUCK are you supposed to deal with Subterranean Rose?
I have learnt most of the spellcards so far and can capture most of them except Depths and Philosophy. My last run ended being pretty okay, capturing most spellcards and making it up to the last one with TWO extra lives, which got automatically devoured.

I thought I had the "rhythm" by the second phase but them the third phase and its ultra long thorns fucked me up pretty nastily.

I'm about to do a burnout. This extra stage requires immense concentration.

>>18054977
You press X.

>>18054977
You stop shooting

>>18054977
It doesn't have a timeout phase like >>18055016 hinted at. So you can just time it out on the first phase.

>>18054977
Just learn the rhythm of the roses. It doesn't take too many attempts to figure it out.

>>18055016
>>18055019
Dude, have you seen how long it takes for the timer to actually start? I tried what you said but it did not help me in the slightest. I guess I'll just practice the card.

>>18055143
It is indeed easier to time out that card. Once you get the timing of the first phase down, you basically just play in autopilot for 2 minutes.
It does feel a little cheap, however. I didn't know that was possible when I first beat Koishi, so I failed10 (ten) attempts at her final card, 5 (five) of these with 3 lives at the beginning of the card. Very frustrating, but it's not so bad once you get used to the rhythm.

Eosd stage 1 fairies before midboss on easy

>>18054977
https://my.mixtape.moe/egkdgj.mp4
Don't bottom hug on the third phase. Actively move up through the small bullets before they bloom as soon as you can so you don't get walled.
On the fourth phase, also don't bottom hug. Roses will come in waves of alternating colors, so stick to the safe lines and stream downwards, actively moving up to give yourself room after each wave.

Fucking Hiro broke something with the ads apparently and now scrolling to the bottom of a thread breaks the CSS? God damn it.

>>18054977
Timeout? Nah man, you've already come this far, put this bitch in the ground.
Red roses always expand to the right and blue always goes left. Only one color will swing near you at a time, so make sure you tell yourself which one is going to come up next. The colors always alternate, but restarts to blue at the start of each phase.

The whole card wants to slowly push you downwards. Make sure you move up a ring every now and again so you don't run out of room. Each phase increases the rate you need to move up between rings. If you miss your opportunity to move up and run out of room at the bottom, move horizontally against the direction of the roses, then come back to the center as soon as they shrink. Optimally you'll never really move horizontal very much, but it'll definitely save you if you mess up.

Phase one and two are really similar. Just keep track of which color is going to expand and stay away from it.
Phase three features a lot of time between each ring and extra wide rotations. If you find yourself being pinched at the bottom a lot don't be afraid to move a bit more horizontally than usual.
Phase four has decent space between each bullet in the rings, but the rings are timed close together. Keep close track of which color is expanding. Even though blue spawns first, red will end up taking the first swing at you. Put yourself in range of the opposite colored ring, don't hesitate.

Hard PD NB with Sanae was easily the worst decision of my life.

>>18056805
>bothering with PD NB
found your problem, no one gives a shit about it

>>18057094
Why the fuck do you care so negatively about this on a regularly recurring thread?

Other shitposts in this thread are even more worthy of being discouraged because they're shit

How do Prismriver sisters even work? I practised them a bunch of times in practise mode, and now that I'm doing an actual run there's a bunch of stuff happening that never happened in practise mode.

>>18057520
Depending on what shot you're playing with, you start with a different pair of nonspells at the beginning. Whichever one you do the most damage to on their first group spell changes who you face against for the rest of the fight until they group up again.

I did it!

>>18057614
Good job anon!

>>18057614
Nice work.

why am i worse at touhou when it's late at night and im tired? im much better in the morning

>>18057786
Because it's late at night and you're tired.

>>18057816

>>18052368
be born talented

>>18056805
Don't worry anon, next time will be better.

>>18057786
Same for me, also playing really late in the night means I can't shout if I get mad at touhou.

I've done it.

I've somehow also done it.
Just the Marisa shots to go.
>>18058659
Grats dude!

WOOooooooooo!!!!!
Not messing up that spell was really good for my self esteem, and the run.

>>18059441
Nice! Is it your first Extra clear?

>>18058659
>>18058838
Congrats both of you!!
>>18059441
Not really, not even the first NB on it but this one was harder than the others.
Anybody that does Sakuya solo for first extra clear would be super badass tho!

>>18058659
>>18058838
Congrats both of you!!
>>18059447
Not really, not even the first NB on it but this one was harder than the others.
Anybody that does Sakuya solo for first extra clear would be super badass tho!

>>18059501
I would like to play with solo characters in IN, but the fact that the guardians stay on or off all the time bothers me a little.

I finished getting all four parallel endings in Ten Desires, I had fun with them. It's a mechanic I'd like to see tried again in another game.
I enjoyed how there is a little more resource management to it when you play the game with them as your goal. From the beginning of stage 6, you have to be aware of how many bomb pieces you have. You might or might not want to use Trance during the stage portion, you might or might not want to grab the bomb spirits the boss drops, and so on. Purposefully dying to get 2 bombs back before grabbing the 8th bomb piece is a viable tactic.
Preferably you'd get your 8th piece on the second-to-last spell card, and then no-bomb defeat the last spell card.

All in all I really enjoyed TD, my only complaint was the somewhat cryptic conditions to spawn resources. For example on stage 6 you have to hold your fire until the big fairies drag their familiars onto the screen, or the bomb spirits won't spawn.

Finally beat Flandre for the first time. Figuring out Patchouli's Royal Flare and being able to enter the boss fight with 4 whole lives really made a huge difference. And I needed every one of those lives to survive my first time seeing the final 3 spell cards. It was also my first time capturing Maze of Love (well, I had captured it once before by micrododging on the bottom, but I consider that more of a fluke than anything).

In other news I'm working toward a 1cc of Story in Eastern Wonderland. It's pretty fun to play once you adapt to its aged bullshit, but the stage segments are pretty long and boring compared to the bosses who are more than happy to throw surprise bursts of bullets into your face. It's really a game about learning what to do with practice rather than being able to sight-read things when you first see them. Marisa's rotating orbs come to mind; unless you know the point at which they'll stop expanding, you'll likely just get backed into a corner and die to them.

Wow MarisaB in UFO is hot trash.
These anons clearing UFO motivated me to get the final shottype clear of UFO that I had left to do, but after 2 runs dying to Byakuren, that'll have to wait for another day.

Which Marisa shot type is better in PCB?

>>18061765
I N F I N I T E P E N E T R A T I O N

Probably MarisaA, but lasers and Master Spark are fun, anon.

>>18061808
I agree, but it occurred to me that I was picking a shot type based on how fun the bomb was, and wasn't actually sure which was better.

>>18061818
Honestly it's been a while since I've played PCB, but I remember being shocked at how much stronger the magic missiles were than the lasers in EoSD (not a whole lot stronger, but enough to make a notable difference in many sections). I assume it's the same case in PCB.

Are there any resources to help a fighting game noob get into the Touhou fighting games? I want to play them for the story but get my ass kicked by the AI on normal mode. Some of these spell cards are just cheap.

I'm playing through LoLK for the first time today and I feel like I may be stuck at clownpiece (PointDevice mode on normal.) I understand what to do for these attacks, but fuck, they are so tedious and require the tightest movement of any of the bosses I've played.

I definitely have not had this much trouble with any of the other games, which I usually play on normal

>>18062349
Clownpiece is your designated bomb dump and widely agreed to be the hardest boss, even more than the stage 6 boss, who arguably only becomes harder on her final spellcard.
Especially Clownpiece's first survival spell, which is harder on Normal than on Hard or Lunatic due to the falling stars being random rather than static.

And don't worry about comparing LoLK to other games in the series, it really isn't designed to match up to them like that.

>>18062383
unfortunately I already used all my bombs on clownpiece and I'm on like the last three spells.

watching videos of people beat her on youtube make it seem a lot easier than it really is

>>18062540
>watching videos of people beat her on youtube make it seem a lot easier than it really is
That's touhou in general though, it's either easier or harder than it looks, and usually by a large margin.

SoeW, facing Mima with 5 lives, no bombs.
I lost.
Why does this keep happening?
I was even using Reimu C which is the best against bosses, and I still got raped.

>>18064548
You'll get it soon anon.

Holy shit, the things ReimuC does to SoEW's bosses should be illegal.
Marisa doesn't even get the chance to pull bullshit with her spinning orbs; they just die almost immediately.

So this is the power of the Yin-Yang Orbs, huh?

finally beat LoLK on normal pointdevice mode, with only 1327 retries

some spells were definitely easier with the keyboard, but overall, a lot of those spells should not have been that difficult for me. oh well

>>18066685
Great job anon, one step closer to Lunatic Legacy LNN!

>>18066751
thanks, but given how fucking bad I was on quite a few of those spells I think it'll be a while for that. I'll be lucky if I can 1cc legacy normal sometime soon

>>18066764
Legacy Normal with Reisen is pretty easy.

>>18064548
Simply bomb camp her hitbox

Hope saturn anon is doing well and didn't need anymore help. I forgot to check on him after I gave him some advice.

While I was cleaning my HDD today I found Sky Arena in a forgotten folder.
Anybody playing this one? I just read that it was released for PS4 around a year ago too.

Ugh senpai, now I remember why I stopped playing TSA, the controls are a pain in the butt.
I tried practicing for almost a hour but it just gets worse, maybe I should use a controller.

>Plays IN for Lunatic Burfegt
>Barely gets 500 items going into stage 6

how do people think this guy is a superplayer again?

>>18071602
Who are you memetexting about?

>>18071602
PoC is for the weak

>>18071617
Imperishable N U T

>>18071602
I don't think anyone calls him a superplayer? He's just well-respected in the community for his accomplishments, as they are impressive.
Head on back to your circlejerk and complain there instead of trying to cause trouble.

Gonna get chain deleted anyway so fuck it.
>>18071602
>giving a fuck about scoring in LNN
Would you have rather him been the second guy to pull a "throw away a LNN because he wanted to get a better cancel on Meister"?

>>18071676
Who was the first guy?

>>18071664
scorefags are just jealous they will never be as talented as him!
just look, every scorefag has quit already, its only the talented LNNers that are left playing

>>18072027
So by your claim, there's only one active player in the community.

I've only messed around a little in the game but what makes autumn release OP?

>>18072200
Throw
http://thscore.pndsng.com/replay/th16_ud0378.rpy
into
C:\Users\YourNameHere\AppData\Roaming\ShanghaiAlice\th16\replay
and take a look.

is Marisa A or Marisa B better for TH7 extra stages? I started today with Marisa B and I've almost beaten Ran, but it seems like Marisa A might be better. Same problem as TH6, having really long bombs is really bad for extra bosses.

also fuck this card and the one after it

also i dont understand border chaining yet

>>18071676
that run would be more interesting than someone playing the safest way possible

why do people actually believe dull runs which bottom hug for 30 minutes is "impressive" and "highly skilled"

>>18072409
It wouldn't really. It doesn't matter.

Because LNN is impressive and takes a lot of skill (and usually some luck as well) to pull off. If you really think otherwise than try and get some yourself and you'll find out that it's not easy. Of course, it can't compare with top level scoring, but it's a difficult achievement in its own right.

>>18072409
Until "LNN scoring" becomes a thing (which never will), dicking around with scoring or anything that doesn't minimize the chance of failure during an LNN is just stupid. Yours is the equivalent of suggesting that not doing a backflip during a 100m sprint at the Olympics is boring and that people should stop running in the most efficient way possible just to appease a few retards in the crowd, such as yourself.

Shit janny already hit delete but whatever I'm posting this anyway.

Can you graze the same bullet multiple times? Obviously lasers count differently and most bullets are too fast to double dip

>>18072558
if it's moving slow enough then why not? i wasn't aware you got one graze point per object

>>18072558
Pretty sure you can only graze each bullet once only in all of the games, but I could be wrong. I'm pretty positive that's the case in at least most of the game at least. Lasers are special, as you said.

>>18072558
Legend of Lunatic Kingdom is the only exception. In LoLK if you graze a bullet for a little while, it will shake and then give you an additional 5 Graze points.

>>18072558
Almost all games only let you graze once. In LoLK, you can get more graze points by staying close to the bullet for some time.

This whole run was crazy. It started off awfully, but I kept going anyways and managed to NMNB Murasa and cap Shou's Vajra card for the first time. I'm also really happy I didn't screw up Byakuren's final card in the last moment.
Does UFO have the hardest hard mode? I believe that it is harder than SA's, even though the converse holds true for their normal modes.

>>18072356
Go with MarisaA, better damage

Fuck yes! I finally got a 1CC of SoEW, despite the run turning really bad at Marisa as I choked 3 of my lives to her without using any of the bombs accompanying them.
How's the Extra Stage in this game compared with Windows Extras?

>>18073173
If you only have one 1cc, you're not going to see that Extra stage for quite some time, anon. Two more to go, do your best.

>>18073195
Welp, that's interesting. Damn this archaic game design.
Oh well, I've dabbled quite a bit with both the other shot types already, so they won't be nearly as alien as they could be, and the first 1CC is always the hardest anyway.
Off I go, then.

>>18073173
Nothing personell, Mima.
ReimuB and ReimuC clear, and I can't believe the Yin-Yang Orb is a scented candle!

>>18072356
wtf that spellcard is easy, also go with MarisaA, I got my best extra clear with that shot.

>>18073173
That's one of the hardest extra stages in the whole series, and is also easily the worst from a gameplay and design perspective. It's terrible. I strongly advise not to even bother trying. On top of the inherit jank of that game and the very poor design, you're going to have to deal with severe inbuilt input lag, controller lag, emulator lag AND LCD lag.

>>18073833
But can I just abuse bomb spam and rapid-tapping Z with ReimuC sitting inside of Rika?
I'm hoping this is early enough that bombs still effect the Extra Boss.

>>18073855
I don't even know if you can do that. I gave up before trying any real runs after practicing all the attacks. I basically determined that it wasn't worth the time or effort because it wouldn't have even felt satisfying to beat like other extras. The fact that you're also playing crippled means the time spent practicing is basically lost as it won't help you in any other games let alone Touhou.

>>18073877
>as it won't help you in any other games let alone Touhou.
That's fine, transferrable skills have never been a motivator for me in Touhou, they're the only bullet hell games I play anyway. I'll at least give the Extra my honest try once I 1CC ReimuA tomorrow. Even the main stages of SoEW were filled to the brim with bullshit that sounds like what you're describing, yet I was able to persevere through that and eventually have fun, so I'll see how the Extra turns out.

>>18073855
You only get 1 bomb per life (except for the last one), so that's definitely not an option.
As the other anon said, that extra is really annoying because of SoEW specific factors. No focus, input lag, no death bombs, no way to recover power during boss fights, and now limited bombs. However, once you get used to the stage, you'll find out that it's not much harder than the average windows extra. You just have to fight the suicidal urges of having to deal with those annoyances.
I cleared that extra recently thanks to the help of a kind anon. Look up >>17931698 in the archive for some helpful strategies.

>>18073981
Thanks a bunch, I will do that when I get to practicing the Extra Stage.

>>18072356
Charming Siege is one of her harder attacks. You just need to read the waves far in advance to see if you're getting walled or not, which is easier said than done sometimes. If Ran moves up, the waves are sparse and you have ample room for an easy cap, and if she moves down, you better have good vision. Basically, don't get walled and don't feel bad if you fail.

Tenko should be free once you get the rhythm down though. Alternate back and forth between points and make sure that you get a couple seconds of damage each cycle. I do up and a bit one side, then I move down and a bit to the other side, which lets me do some damage when she's up top. When she gets a little bit too fast to do that comfortably, I switch to a 3 cycle in which I move in a triangle, a clockwise < shape (top right, bottom right, middle left) that allows me to shoot her when she's in the top right position. Here's a video of me doing it: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nynrGiFZInY&t=525

If you have any other PCB Extra questions, just ask. I just completed a NMNB of it a couple days ago after grinding it nonstop for a month and I know every part of it like the back of my hand. (Though just a warning, I wouldn't attempt to follow my video blindly, if you were going to - I went for score, which involves a lot of strats that would be bad for someone going just for survival)

How do I full screen pc-98 in NekoPara?
Whenever I click full screen it goes back to windowed after some black flickering.
I set up according to the latest mega torrent on nyaa.

>>18074878
have you tried alt-enter?

I beat Ran. Is it just me or is the stage so much harder than her? I kept resetting trying to get through the stage using minimal bombs because I thought I'd need everything for Ran, but when I decided to just bomb my way through the stage I beat Ran after only a few attempts.

>>18050588
The made his engine using DirectX. He's probably using C++ or C#.

>>18073318
Wow the Yin-Yang orb sure has a lot of different powers. Let's see what this Extra's all about finally.

Yay!
http://replays.gensokyo.org/download.php?id=44343
I have now beaten every mode of my favourite game.
Feels pretty damn good.

>>18080498
Nice!

>>18080498
Good job anon!

>>18080498
Oh btw, I was >>18054977
Glad I didn't try to timeout.

>>18080498
Even Lunatic? Great job anon.

>>18080762
Yup, though I think it could be the only time I'll ever clear Lunatic mode. People like me can only progress so far in their lifetime.

Lenen Project is retarded, don't play these games

Managed to clear MoF Extra with all of Reimu shot types.
http://replays.gensokyo.org/download.php?id=44346
I should start practicing SA now.

>>18076918
It doesnt work, the same thing happens.

>>18081095
Alright I did it, I just had to tick the no change color option.
Now how do fix reduce the input lag?

>>18081158
You can't really, you can only increase the cpu speed so that the game doesn't chug and change the frame sync options within np2 or its .ini file to reduce it.
Autoframe supposedly works the best, and that's what I use, but I haven't done any real extensive testing with it. Even with that on, there is still a bit a lag that i can tell, but it's manageable for me at least.
You can add the line ENHANCED=b00000000000100 to the np21nt.ini file to enable multi-threading, it my help or not with performance.

The input lag will always be there, this is with all emulators. Hell even original PC-98s had input lag as well iirc.

Someone knows this bug? It happened to me today, battling Yukari on Story Mode - Lunatic.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pnvqwvQMSQM

Yet another clutch by the skin of my teeth. Just MarisaB to go. Not looking forward to it.

>>18080765
Nice! I knew you could beat Extra.

https://twitter.com/Mamishi7/with_replies

Rest in peace HUF.

The more I play, the worse I become, I could at least make it to patchy without bombing and dying, now I die on Cirno. What should I do?

>>18082705
Rest

>>18082705
Take a break. Playing for long periods of time doesn't help much.

>>18082449
Even the talented are still human. RIP.
If that's you, ZM, props for helping her get her message out.

>>18081927
She's just mad stylin' on you, bro.

>>18082449
rip
telling ur parents about 2hu though

>>18082449
https://twitter.com/huf_usagi/status/913664809589080064
congrats?

>>18082449
>>18083631
wait, did he kill himself?

>>18083780
no

>>18083780
I would kill myself if I had to play LoLK too.

>>18082449
It's funny, I often get so caught up in idolizing superplayers as legendary and having moments in "oh I got 1/300 books, I suck at meister, this game is a goddamn piece of shit, I should be a fucking neet, I want to die", but really, we're just guys sharing moments in a difficult game with each other. As >>18082787 said, even the talented are still human.

I hope he found Gensokyo.

>>18083780
https://twitter.com/kisara_3428/status/944176362478125056

First time posting here so I don't know if lengthy posts are a thing. But Wew boy that was fucking intense ride, but I honestly have no idea how I got the bad ending though. I used zero continues and did normal mode, it did let me save a replay though oddly enough. I was just under the impression that Sakuya's team fights Elrin rather than Kaguya, weird. Either way I'm just glad I can clear the game with Sakuya, I usually play as her but IN was the exception until now because Remi's focus was rather unwieldy to use but you get use to it. Revisiting IN was pretty awesome and made me realize it's easily one of the best Touhou games, defeintly top 3.

I did make the Mistake of playing on MIDI mode and boy that was something else, fucking Eirin's theme was butchered, could that have caused the bug? Another thing I want to say is do not play when you're tilted, difference between playing Touhou with a calm mind and a colluded one is night and day, makes all the difference between reaching the final boss with 5 lives and dying at stage 1-2 constantly.

>>18083963
Route A has you fight Eirin who's the diversion to prevent you from reaching the actual antagonist (Kaguya), therefore leading you to Bad Ending no matter if you 1CC or not.
Only Stage 6B will give you a Good Ending.

>>18082449
>>18083888
Poor woman, no parent should ever outlive their children. Hope he finds peace, if there is something out there.

>>18083963
You cleared Final A, now Final B is unlocked for you to choose after you beat Reisen, clearing that one will give you the good ending, also do not play as Sakuya Solo, it's one of the worst shot in the entire series.

>>18083980
>>18084017
Oh I see it was a legitimate 1cc then, just got a bad ending. Thanks for clearing that up, now I can safely add another notch to my 1cc list. But I agree, Sakuya/Remi shotype is really bad in IN, but I had to with her being my favorite. When you said Sakuya Solo I thought you were joking about how useless Remi is with her but I looked it up and turns out there are individual character modes in IN, huh, still going to play her then.

>>18084065
Has anyone ever even used the notation in the legend in this version of the chart? It seems like all the people that actually play with conditions like NB(that post their charts) or whatever use their own systems. I almost feel a little bad for the guy that came up with this compact system only to see it go so unused.

>>18083963
>>18084065
Congratulations anon! IN is a great game I hope you have fun unlocking the solo shottypes and playing with your 2hu!
Nice progress btw.
>>18084182
I don't use it myself because it isn't very practical for both the editor and viewer.
>>18083888
I need kisara's avatar

>>18084065
Remi is great anon, you just have to learn how to use it.

>>18084217
Thank you so much Yuuyuu anon, you're always so considerate and kind to others. Don't ever lose it

>>18084324
Really? Her turret thingy is kinda unweildly, but I admit it's very good for shotgunning though when the enemies don't move.

I finally got off my lazy ass and 1cc'd DDC Normal with MarisaB, and all I had to do was bomb the shit out of Stage 3 onwards. It was still less cheap than using SakuyA.
I'll probably try facing my beloved drum some other day.

>>18083888
>>18082449
I'm suddenly crying, I hope he is now at the Hakurei Shrine meeting Reimu.

>>18082449
Now I feel obligated to finish my Rabi-Ribi Hell run for him.

>>18085463
>>18085472
>>18085477
Cool, you replaced the sprites with ones from dairi. So?

>>18049940
>I can 1cc cave games and other arcade schmups
>can't 1cc any 2hu on normal for years

I don't want to replay certain stages over and over, but for example I can get to stage 5 in EoSD, everytime with 5 lives and lose them all in the bossfight

It's like this in every touhou I've played, got to stage 5 almost perfectly, lose everything there, repeat.

What do

>>18086589
press X to bomb

>>18086606
I do use bombs, a lot, sometimes panic bombs, the thing is, what kills me is bullets I don't even notice. Sakyua fight in 6 is a good example for this.

>>18086589
>I don't want to replay certain stages over and over

This is why we have this great invention called "Practice Mode".
Or you could even use the boss rush patch if you don't give a shit about the stage itself.

Either way, first make sure you can get through the boss every time consistently, and then go for an actual run.

>>18086723
okay, thanks!

>>18084906
Your beloved drum is one of the most fun extra bosses, so look forward to that other day!

Er, little help here. It seems I can't run any vpatch along the translation patch. Or at least that's the case for 9,10,12 and 13. Renaming the files (the english patch as thxx and the original as thxxj) and opening vpatch doesn't work.

>>18088210
Use applocale or something similar.
That should do the trick.

>>18088239
I used Locale Emulator and that did exactly nothing. Any other ideas?

I hope i am not the only one here playing 2hu on linux, so i'll ask in case someone ran into the same problem before

How the fuck do you play retro games. Wine works only w windows for apparent reason

>>18088305
To make thcrap work with vpatch you need to edit the game.js

Is this any good?

>>18088353
Play the PC version and decide for yourself. Personally, I found it alright.

Got another one of these for you guys. Kaguya was only slightly harder than Eirin, thankfully the NEET queen's final spellcard is actually really easy to dodge, if it was anything like her other one's this run would've been over but thankfully that's not the case.

Now I just need to unlock Sakuya Solo and I'll be about done with this game for now.

>>18088337
The file fails to open.

Hell's Artificial Sun is probably the best final spellcard of any boss of the franchise. Utsuho in general is just a great example of a classic "final boss", and that's the peak of the crescendo.

>>18088495
You need to open it with something like notepad++

>>18086589
If there are specific attacks you feel hopeless at, let us know which ones and we can tell you advice. Sometimes just having knowledge of what works and what doesn't is all that you need.

>>18088711
okay, I'll do some practicing and if everything fails I'll ask
thanks!

>>18086923
>>18088718
Can't tell if you're being sarcastic or not.

>>18088753
not sarcastic

>>18088639
Don't worry, I finally got it going. I just finished my first serious blind run of UFO Normal. I faceplanted into a fairy in Stage 6 because I got impatient. Not like I stood a chance against Byakuren anyway. I was quick to get the hang of UFOs and so I got a decent ammount of lives, but the power loss per each death got the best of me, and I got impatient trying to capture stuff at 2 power, which went as well as you may expect. This probably won't take too many tries, but I do admit curvy lasers are kinda scary, even if not as deadly as I expected.

>>18088467
oh no, believe you don't want to play with SakuyaSolo.

>>18089122
Nice going anon

I managed to clear HSiFS extra with everyone. However, since I completely did absolute shit with Aya and even beat the last card via time out with her, it doesn't feel legitimate. I still have to beat her spring and fall runs before I can finally say I'm done with this game on normal, too. Why is Aya absolute suffering to play?

>>18089300
Her shot is too narrow and she is weak.
Also not everyone likes going fast!
Imo the worst shot in the game survival wise is AyaSp. And she is probably worse than Cirno in teh Extra as well.

>>18089327
I actually found Cirno to be the best shot in extra, behind Reimu obviously, since she can shotgun the boss, so she ends up not having to worry about her usual damage issues.

>almost beat yukari with Marisa B
>know if I pick Sakura B I could do it effortlessly due to ~14 extra bombs

Suffering. Are any other mainline games as badly balanced as this? Only beaten TH6 / TH7 extras.

>>18089415
Have you beat Yukari with any other shot?

>>18086589
You have to practice mode Stage 5 in EOSD. The fairies at the beginning will kill you unless you snipe half of them ahead of time.

Also bomb bomb bomb. You can use ~6 bombs and still have a ton left over for Remilia.

I just got home from drinking with awesomely friendly nips, my head is hurting and I thought to myself "how about I try to do that Extra I've only ever cleared with Marisa Bug?"

>>18089428
No. I've gotten to border of life and death with Marisa B and run out of resources twice.

I know if I was Sakura B it would be cake but I love Marisa.

>>18089415
>Sakura
Yeah her Erase Card is really overpowered

>>18089415
>>18089442
>Sakura B

There's your problem. Nobody plays with Sakura, especially B.
Try with Rin Satsuki, A or B, both are fine.

>>18089415
>>18089442
>Sakura

>>18089147
How do I go about unlocking Sakuyasolo? I 1cc'd Route A and B with the scarlet team.

>>18089561
1cc route B with all 4 teams.

>>18089572
Sigh, well if that's how it is then I gotta do it. Thanks for the answer.

Maybe after that I can do SakuraSolo too, I hear that's one of the best shottypes in the game.

>>18089442
Do this: beat Ran with either Reimu or Sakuya, so you will have them unlocked for Phantasm, but if you really want to do this with Marisa then use MarisaA, her damage is pretty good.

>>18089578
By the way didn't you 1cc Final B with border team already? >>18084065
But well if you already cleared both finals with Scarlet Team I don't think you will have trouble with the rest of the teams, good luck!

>>18089739
I indeed did beat both routes with the Scarlet team as see in >>18088467

It's not going to be too hard I imagine, just slightly tedious.

>>18081158
You don't. It's built into the game. You can reduce it by using an emulator that adds a low amount of input lag, which you already are, and by using a monitor that adds no lag. Read: CRT. The emulator will add a couple frames of extra lag and your monitor might add one or more frames also. This is on top of the lag the game naturally has on the real hardware.

>>18086613
Why would you downgrade and try to play 2hu if you can already play keibu like a real man?

>>18091234
Not enough cute girls

Well, I 1cc'd UFO Normal after playing it for the very first time yesterday, making it my fastest 1cc yet. After failing with ReimuA, as detailed in >>18089122, I decided switching to SanaeB. Great shottype overall.

>>18087060
Well, I now experienced it first hand and I can say she's both hard and fun. Par for the course for extra bosses. Still, MarisaB's broken bomb is both a great help and a hindrance (sure, it helps me get lives, but it also makes Raiko completely invincible whenever both enter in contact).

>>18094559
UFO SanaeB is probably one of the best shots in the entire series.

>>18094880
I'm struggling with stage 4 right now, using Marisa A, does SanaeB make this stage particularily easier? Not sure whether to switch since I heard that MarisaA is best for extra and it would be nice to have her right away

I am finally off of Okina's wild ride. I completely stopped firing once I got to the final card in aya/fall and timed it out with bombs and shit though, fuck that spell and fuck that character. Maybe now I can get to fighting Ran like I said I would. Unless I start playing this game on Hard or something.

>>18095133
Excellent work on HSiFS! you should take on hard mode unless you are tired of playing this game, also remember that MoF normal 1cc should be free to get.

>>18095133
Don't you have to beat final A to even get final B? How come only final B is marked?

>>18095350
Thank you! I kind of adore this game, so I might. I tried MoF a while ago and was able to consistently get to Kanako, but I've yet to break past her invincibility non-spell. Maybe it's over reliance on bombs, but I honestly don't feel like I know any of the game, and after getting frustrated, moved on to playing PCB.

>>18095356
I didn't 1cc final A so I didn't mark it, I've been meaning to get back to it, but I'm lazy and don't want to play more ST/MT

>>18095359
>>18095350
Actually per your advice I did run MoF again. I got to the last stretch of the last card, first time actually seeing it too. I don't think my heart has ever raced like that while playing a game before, I'll definitely get this one soon. Only died twice before Kanako.

I finally did it /jp/ I 1cc'd PCB in lunatic using marisa A!

however I used vsync patch, I feel dirty[/spoiler[

>>18095631
No reason to, anon. PCB was quite sluggish for me control-wise until I got my hands on vsync. I lost way too many 1cc's just because the fucking game wouldn't register me pressing x right before a bullet hit me. Then there's the times I pressed the button well in advance and I deathbombed.

Also, HSiFS Stage 4 is actually pretty hard. Any advice? I'm using MarisaW.

>>18095732
What difficulty? I might be able to make a replay you can reference.

>>18095754
I'm playing Normal, but I would like just some written hints and such.

>>18095631
>vsync patch

There is literally nothing wrong using the vpatch. Anyone who objects to vpatch is most likely a troll

If vpatch didn't exist I wouldn't play the games. It's as simple as that. No one should play any game with significant input lag.

>>18095797
I don't use vpatch and I have no input lag. try not having a shit computer/OS

>>18095802
I never noticed input lag before I had the patch, even now, i can't really tell the difference between the two. However, my runs always go further with the patch on, despite not being able to measure any difference.

>>18095133
Very nice HSiFS chart anon!
Check out Ran, she together with her master have an awesome extra mode!
I also can't stand Aya
>>18095631
How is that cheating? If anything you should use vpatch for every game that has it available.

>>18095763
I don't have normal s4 unlocked for Marisa so I'll just share some lunatic strats that probably work on normal too.
You can start the stage at the top left corner and stream slowly to the right. Once the red fairies show up find a gap (they're huge) and slide down the right wall then stream back towards the left.
For the 4 waves right after, find and memorize a pattern. In general you'll be streaming. I like to start in the middle, stream towards the left for wave 1, go back to middle and go right for wave 2, then from right wall to left wall for the last 2 waves.
For the bit after, memorize the spawn locations and kill every single fairy as soon as they spawn so bullets don't crowd the screen.
For the midboss, don't bottomhug and stream in the direction of the purple amulets.
Wave right after should be easy.
For the fairies that make the big walls, kill as many as you can then stick to a corner. I like the bottom right corner. Kill whatever gets close. If you get through this without bombing/dying you get a bomb from the big fairy after.
The spam section is hard to explain but you'll want to kill fairies that shoot the blue walls, move to the right to dodge the aimed stuff, then move back to the middle to dodge the circles and repeat.
Anything that seems too hard to do, just bomb. Don't even think about it. Just bomb.
I can write about the boss too if you need it.
I'll leave a replay here anyway. Managed to perfect the stage but fucked up a bunch during the boss but it should still help visualize what I wrote.
https://mega.nz/#!8X5HwAhJ!HtU-EUAgUv-L2ypcjjuGPNT8lGOs-B1bvOXP21EOJZw

>>18095732
>>18095768
nice to hear so, vpatch is like another fucking world, character now moves so nice and smooth, probably gotta try it on other games
Also, I did it again, this time with reimu B!

Finally 1cc'd Final B hard, now both finals are cleared.

>>18095356
They can be unlocked in Easy mode, then they are available to select for every difficulty, this also applies to shot types.

>>18095499
Thanks for giving it a try, you mean Kanako's last right? that's actually one of my most failed spellcards in my touhou career, I'd say Kanako is the only real threat in MoF, but that same spell taught me to get used to releasing the focus key.
I'd suggest watching a no miss no bomb replay, so you will have a better idea on some of her particular spells and nons, also since MoF is so broken: watching a replay that clears the game will unlock stage practice for stage 6 if you haven't beat it already.

>>18095851
Thank you! Those Yuyuko pics make every struggle worth it.

>>18095890
>you mean Kanako's last right
Yeah, assuming Mountain of Faith is the last one, and they're not faking me out like they did Yuyuko.

> that same spell taught me to get used to releasing the focus key.
I've been doing that lately with a lot of success. I don't really know when I started or what got me to do it, but I was surprised by how well I was doing on that card. Probably had 4 or so lives when i hit it, but given it was my first time seeing it I think I just need to practice it a couple times.

>watching a replay that clears the game will unlock stage practice for stage 6 if you haven't beat it already.
Are you fucking serious?

>>18095966
Yep don't worry that's her last, it gave me nightmares in hard mode, and yes I'm serious this game is broken.
Also just wanted to say, I remember when you started off with DDC a while back, keep up the good work I'm proud of ya.

>>18096004
Thank you! It's weird to think now that I was panicking about not getting my first 1cc fast enough. I'll do my best to keep succeeding! I want to play at at least a Hard level by the time 17 comes out.

Merry fucking Christmas /jp/, not a bad way to end it I must say. 3 more of these and Sakuyasolo is all mine to play!

>>18095856
nice.

Did it again /jp/ this time with marisa B!

When it comes to MoF, Virtue of Wind God is the biggest threat. It's a painfully long spell that forces you to go "full talent" and release that focus key. A true test of toughness, there is probably not another spell that tests you in such a brutal way, except PDH (supposing you're not bombing it)
Focus on your character and slightly above it, don't be afraid to go to the sides to dodge even if you know it's gonna make the spell last longer.
The funny thing is that this spell is actually fairly doable so long as you don't try to rush it.

>>18095802
Post your measurements and methodology for EoSD then leave the thread for not knowing what you're talking about.

I always wondered how come Junko's last spell isn't immune to bombs

>>18098001
I guess ZUN felt bad for giving Suku and Junko a time out spell so he wanted to make up.

>>18095732
Marisa has a tough time with Stage 4. Everyone insults Cirno but I was amazed at how easy she handled Stage 4, one of the most difficult sections in the game for me (Cirno Summer that is).
Honestly the biggest thing you can do relative to how easy it is is to just write Stage 4 off as your resource dump stage. Bomb at the segments you're having trouble with, which are probably the segments at the beginning, middle (with the green fairies aiming at you) and the end which prefer streaming strategies otherwise.
And especially just bomb, or at least season release, at the part involving many rows of fairies criss-crossing across the screen and firing diagonal bullet rows down at you.

>>18095802
Computer/OS has nothing to do with it. You just don't recognize the input lag because you've never played without it.

>>18084767
The familiars are great because you can just pop them down in the center of the screen if the boss is moving around a lot and they'll still get a ton of damage in, meanwhile you don't have to worry nearly as much about staying under the boss and can just dodge.
Part of getting used to it though is also being able to reliably reposition her familiars by unfocusing and re-focusing. On that note though, if there's a tight dodge you need to make quickly, if you're unfocused for a short enough time, the familiars won't return to you. Very useful.

>>18098215
Your advice boils down to "just give up". You could have at least given him some routes to try like >>18095852 did.

>>18088532
ZUN certainly went all out with making her as bombastic and epic as possible, from her theme, to the environment, to her spellcards.
She's definitely a more traditional final boss than most other Touhou final bosses, but I appreciate her being an oddity in the lineup.

>>18098263
It sounds like he's just working toward a 1cc, and often the biggest barrier to overcome and reach a 1cc is to properly manage your resources by not losing bombs to unexpected deaths. Planning to bomb through troublesome sections ahead of time is perfectly sound advice imo.
I have neither the expertise or familiarity with the game to give as detailed advice as that other anon, nor am I going to just repeat what he said, otherwise I would have done either of those things.

>>18098254
>On that note though, if there's a tight dodge you need to make quickly, if you're unfocused for a short enough time, the familiars won't return to you. Very useful.
You are thinking about MoF MarisaC. Remi's bats go to her almost instantly, if you let go focus they will change position no matter how fast you focus again.

>>18098492
Huh, I distinctly remember being able to do that when practicing IN Extra a few days ago, guess I was wrong though since I just went into IN and checked.
You might be right about me mistaking it with MarisaC, I did just try her sometime earlier this month for some reason.

>>18049940
Just 1cc'ed Th11 where is my replay?

>>18099108
You were supposed to click this instead of returning to title.

>>18099143
Well shit

>>18099108
>>18099143
>>18099185
Yet another problem about MoF to UFO engine to the pile.

Another 1cc to the list. 2 more and I get Sakuya Solo! Thought I took a screenshot of the stage clear screen though, but this will suffice as proof I'm sure.

>>18099280
So you entered the fight with 7 lives in stock, how many you had left after it was done?

>>18099280
I hope you are not starting with more than the default 3 (three) lives...

>>18098001
Shinmyoumaru's wasn't either.

>>18099713
I think 4 stars so that would be 5 lives in total since the game counts zero stars as a life

>>18099824
They were the default 3. I'm no heretic, I'm very experienced when it comes to Touhou, well normal mode at least. I tried UFO and TD on hard and it fucking blew me out of the water.

>>18099896
Really? I'm gonna go check my replay right now.
She isn't. Huh.

>>18099185
Thanks anon!

New friendo here. i want to get into this game and i hear there is an english patch for the game that is on steam. should i get it its fairly cheap and i jus got a giftcard

>>18100182
just download them off moriya shrine.

>>18100133
Yeah, since I started with DDC, that completely fucked me up when I hit other games.

>>18100182
https://nyaa.si/view/979648

Buy the steam version if you want to support ZUN.

>>18100182
I believe HSiFS is pretty good for starting the series, so by all means anon.
You might just download them from moriya if you are not 100%, then buy if you want to give your support,its on you. Whatever you do, if you want english you'll have to use thcrap regardless, feel free to look all that up.

Managed to pull this off in my first DDC hard run. I lost 3 lives to Kagerou, so I certainly wasn't expecting to end up clearing it. I guess it was all thanks to the extra life system.

>>18100441
Quite impressive, anon. Good job.

Also, if I ever used MAlice Cannon, is my MT 1cc still valid? Asking for a friend.

>>18100480
Yes, goddammit.

>>18099998
Oh, that's an improvement then compared to your first IN clears, I hope you can get your Sakuya 1cc soon.

>>18100480
I'd say it's still valid, but I don't think there is a consensus. That's in the same grey area as using safespots: They're not quite game breaking, but ZUN didn't intend for them to be there either.
Anyways, all of my MT clears have made use of it, so I suppose I'm a little biased.

Oh yeah.
Finally did it.
Can't believe it took me so much time to do a fucking Normal clear. Fuck you, Sakuya B.

>>18100764
You did it. You did it you fucking masochistic madman.

And here I thought the ghost team was pretty bad but the MT is awful.

>>18100480
Wow what a coincidence, I was going to ask the same thing, who's this friend of yours? Would we get along?

>>18100536
>>18100585
Yeah I mean it's not gamebreaking or anything, it's a significant increase in damage output and that's about it. The shottype still has it's many flaws, it's a good trade.

>>18100538
Thanks anon, after I beat it with Sakuyasolo I might try Sakuya B in DDC as >>18100764 (congrats btw) reminded me of, I only did Sakuya A in DDC.

How do I MoF stage 4?

>>18100888
>I might try Sakuya B in DDC
You really are a masochist.

>>18100939
Just bomb whenever you are corned during the bullet-heavy section. The wolf might look hard to do without bombing but her danmaku actually opens a path very late so you need to wait a bit and refrain from bombing away.

As for Aya, it's all about reading the patterns. Don't be afraid to bomb the survival spell near the end because it gets pretty narrow.

I'm new to touhou, what game should I start with?

>>18100970
touhou 6, 7, 8, or 10 are good starting points

>>18100970
11 on lunatic

>>18100979
I'm dabbling a bit with 6, what does "graze" do? Also, what makes a touhou game a good starting point?

>>18100988
Graze counts how many times you grazed a single bullet. It gives more points.

>>18100988
>what makes a touhou game a good starting point?
Not too complicated, not too hard.

12 would be a tricky choice because a newbie would both have to learn basic touhou game mechanics as well as learn how to deal with the ufos.14 would be fine to start with actually, although there is Seija's stuff in stage five. Touhou 11 is fairly standard as far as it goes, but it's a bit more demanding precision-wise for a newbie.

Touhou 9, 12.8, and the photo games (9.5 and 12.5) wouldn't be too bad for a starting point, but they are so different from the other games. I recommend playing them later, they are all good.

The PC-98 games are... old. PoDD can be a blast, but again, it's different.

Play whatever you want, but if you're completely new to shooting games, probably easiest to start with something not too complicated until you get your first normal 1cc or two.

>>18100480
>Also, if I ever used MAlice Cannon, is my MT 1cc still valid?

As long as you used default lives, it's valid.

>>18101122
6 is fun but the hitboxes feel weird. Also how the fuck do you play this on a laptop, I have to have it on my monitor so I can move precisely

Alright the MT may be the worst shotype but it's still very much doable, the MAlice Cannon isn't even that good and got me killed by using it whereas I otherwise wouldn't. Once more and I can finally see how SakuyaSolo fairs.

Fuck these games are hard, I ran out of continues against Meiling

>>18101302
Hitboxes feel weird because they are weird. For example, EoSD's large bubble bullet's hitbox as seen in pic related is square (pretty sure it's circular like it should be in all the other games). Also you can't see your hitbox when you focus with shift.

By the way, you'll probably want to get vpatch working to decrease input lag, especially for EoSD
https://en.touhouwiki.net/wiki/Game_Tools_and_Modifications#Vsync_Patches

Well, I made it to Yukari's last attack for the first time in my life. On my last life. Ony my last bomb. What are my chances?

>>18101429
That was fast.

>>18101339
Magic and Ghost team are great, if you think those are bad then I don't know what you will think of SakuyaSolo because that's actually the worst shot in the game.

>>18101634
Ghost is great but magic is pretty mediocre even with MAlice Cannon.

>>18101634
Alice solo exists.

i just realized i never hear people talk about touhou 14 (besides the post earlier), it's the only mainline game i dont have downloaded either.

is it good?

And with this I have IN ExNB with all the shots!

>>18101988
boring as fuck. it lacks of the gimmicks of modern games but the charm of the classics.

>>18101988
I like it.

>>18101988
It's really good. One of the better ones as far as the more "modern" Touhou games go.

>>18100764
omg great anon! Congratulations!
>>18101988
It's pretty good, for me it is the extra mode what stands out.

i completed EOSD extra without vpatch nor hitbox mod. if you used these to beat flandre you cheated. without these tools she is one of the hardest extra bosses.

>>18102012
Great! Care to post a replay?

>>18103032
Hitbox mod does not count I agree, but please don't defend input lag as some form of legitimate game mechanic, especially in these type of games.

>>18103146
Sure, any shot in particular?

>>18103032
>without these tools she is one of the hardest extra bosses.
Nah. If you can help me run the game at all on win10 without vpatch I'll show you a low miss NB real quick.

>>18104887
Use DX8 to DX9 converter.

Yay I fucking did it, that was a bit tense but in the end it was nothing at all.

After saving the score and replay, I got a flashing message saying solo shotypes are unlocked for about 2 seconds. Fuck yes, SakuyaSolo here I come.

>>18104957
I extracted http://enbdev.com/convertor_dx8_dx9_v0036.htm into my game folder but the game still freezes on startup. Is there any other setting I need to mess with or something I need to change on the .ini or whatever?

>>18104887
whenever I try to maximize EoSD in windows 10 the game will jump to literally 2000fps and of course be impossible to play. this always happens in EoSD and sometimes in later games.

is this what you're referring to?

>>18105176
Nope. My game will simply freeze during startup on the "This game is Curtain Fire Shooting Game..." screen and all I can do is close it. Only way I can play at all is through vpatch right now.

>>18104867
Ghost team would be ok.

>>18105398
Good choice, I'm at my best when Yuyu is involved!
http://replays.gensokyo.org/download.php?id=44357

>>18105084
Godspeed anon.

For some reason I'm getting a text glitch playing pcb in fullscreen mode. Certain texts "stick" once I encounter them, meaning thereafter all spellcards and lines of dialogue are replaced with that text. Typically it's one of Letty's spellcards or something.

>>18105442
Good job! I should practice IN Extra more.

fuck imperishable shooting

how 2 capture Idling Wave. I'm good with every one of Reisen's cards against that one.

I've tried watching touhou streams on twitch and half of them play music over the game and the other half talk over the game the whole time and are sometimes autistic. very lame.

>>18106551
I don't know how to explain this, but I'll give it a try. The first time she shoots the rings you can use a safespot below her on the bottom. That will work once though. For the next waves, try to stay on the left or right on the bottom ones, dodge them horizontally and make your way upwards.

>>18106744
What's wrong with playing music over the game? Most people wouldn't want to listen to the same music for dozens or hundreds of hours.

I'm the touhou newfag from yesterday, slowly improving but I'm having trouble getting over my aversion to using bombs. I always want to save them but then end up dying and they regenerate anyway.

>>18106778
i don't know, i like the touhou music a lot so i would prefer that. but some of these people probably play it way more than me so i guess it's understandable

>>18106744
It makes sense if they play music while doing practice to me (I do that myself), not sure about actual runs tho.
Commentary is also fine, actually commentated runs tend to be better.

>>18106797
twitch streamers in general dont really commentate, from what i've seen. they usually just yell and scream and i even saw one guy playing PCB the other day pull out a fucking recorder and make terrible noises with it

it's bad. but the ones who play music arent bad compared to those guys

For the love of god, what the fuck is this shit?
I 1cc-d EOSD hard. This was supposed to be normal

>>18106816
You think that's bad? Son, you haven't seen shit yet.

>>18106816
Welcome to Clownpiece.

>>18106814
I think you have just been in really bad streams only

>>18106816
Only 4 bombs at the start of Clownpiece for the first time?

I can tell you right now, you probably won't be able to finish this run.
You'll most likely need all 4 to even get through CP with a lot of dodging and luck involved, and then you'll cry at Junko with no bombs left.

>>18106816
Stop playing PD.

some good bullet hell for android?

>>18106905
Android shouldn't have bullet hells.

>>18106903
Why should he? It's the default/"canon" way, according to ZUN himself.

>>18107019
No it isn't, canon is no miss Legacy.

>>18107034
Because that's so easy.

>>18107034
No, that's just an alternative way of reaching the canon ending if you're a masochist.

Holy shit UFO's Extra Stage is fucking cancer. ZUN either thought Rainbow UFOs were the next best thing or didn't feel like giving you extra lives without you planning a route for that express purpose. Kogasa can go fuck herself, especially with that random-ish hitbox fuckery, Mt. Ooe 2: Electric Boogaloo, and if you die you pretty much have to bomb her last spell, because it has too much HP.
Is the second half worse?

>>18107058
The PD is actually the alternative way. ZUN literally said that they never took the drink from Eirin.

>>18107068
>Is the second half worse?

It's always worse, anon.
It never gets better, but always gets worse.

>>18107019
What the fuck are you talking about?
https://en.touhouwiki.net/wiki/Strange_Creators_of_Outer_World/Legacy_of_Lunatic_Kingdom_interview_with_ZUN
>ZUN: The story that follows in the next work after Legacy of Lunatic Kingdom starts from the point after doing a no-miss clear without using that medicine.
>ZUN: Doing a no-miss clear on Legacy Mode is what's canon (laugh).
Straight from the horse's drunken mouth.

>>18107159
Well apparently I'm retarded and need to keep my mouth shut when I have no idea what I'm talking about.

Thank you for letting me realize this.

>>18107095
Yeah, I'm just dropping this shit. For now.

>>18107209
>>18107159
>>18107058
>>18107034
>>18107019
The canon method of doing things isn't the only way to do it. You run pointdevice on normal then you run legacy on normal. Higher difficulties you just go with legacy.

>>18106785
Don't be alergic to bombs, use them all if necessary, its better than getting hit.

>>18107253
>The canon method of doing things isn't the only way to do it.
Of course not, if someone wants to play PD then that's just fine for them and I wish them good luck. I was just correcting what anon said about what ZUN said.

>>18106816
This was exactly me roughly 6 months aog. I thought I was hot shit for nnbing eosd and tried out LoLK because EoSD was one of the harder games.

Also, fuck books, another 1/3xx down the drain because I choose to subject myself to such a goddamn piece of shit part like a fucking masochist. EoSD fucks and murders reimuA, her homing shots do fucking nothing and every other shot trivializes stages due to their power. Angry but inarticulate, fuck. My other 1/3xx books rant had more creativity and unreleased emotion than I will ever fucking have.

I realize this is a folly and that getting this mad and tilt over a game is stupid, but when in this state of rage and tilt, it literally can't be helped because it's like a fucking demon.

>>18107609
Don't bother with books at all until you're at LNN level.
>every other shot trivializes stages
What stage portion is ReimuA even decisively worse on other than maybe the spam right before s5 midboss? I know I definitely prefer her for all of s3 and s6 opening, and s4 sans books is pretty much the same for all shots once you have a rough idea of what's coming.

>>18107609
It's okay, just play for score if you can't dodge.

I have now 1cc'd every mainline Windows game (except for PoFV) on Hard! Other than SA and UFO, the increase in difficulty wasn't as dramatic as I had expected.
With that done, it's finally time to give Lunatic a shot. How big is the difference between Hard and Lunatic in EoSD?

>>18107939
Just play a run and see for yourself. You should have a good grasp of how EoSD feels on Hard by now, just try Lunatic (using all continues) and see first hand how it compares to what you already know.

>>18107992
Sure, that was my plan from the start. I just wanted to see what you guys think about it.

>>18108023
From what I remember it's "manageable", if that helps at all.
My point mostly was that it'd probably be faster to play a run than to wait for someone to get back to you on the question.

>>18107939
That's very nice anon!
I heard it's a more difficult jump than in other games.
>>18108073
They probably just wanted it to at least be discussed a bit here or wanted a few extra opinions. Our own opinions shouldn't always be the only ones we need.

>>18108101
Thanks, Yuyuko anon! And yes, that's what I was going for.
>>18108073
Manageable is also close to how I would describe it. On average, the patterns are not as bad as on UFO Hard, but you get less resources. The jump in difficulty seems to be more pronounced at Remilia, who is now giving me a lot of trouble. I'll definitely have to put in some more effort before I get the 1cc.

Is EX Okina immune to releases?

>>18108421
To and during.

>>18108458
I was suspecting that. Thanks for the heads up.

>>18108508
You can use a release during her survival card to give her a healthbar and then kill said healthbar to skip the entire card after 2-3 lasers. But you wouldn't do that, would you?

Make sure you stop shooting when that card comes up if you don't want to skip it. Any bomb/release will spark the glitch.

Holy shit. May no one ever have to go through the sheer horror that is SakuyaSolo in IN. But hey, I FUCKING DID IT.

>>18108552
I don't shoot during survivals anyway.

>>18108622
Oops wrong image but I guess that's still pretty accurate. I'm so happy right now, but yeah I won't be posting here anymore for now unless non-danmaku games are okay here, which I doubt they are. Thanks a shit ton guys for your support and encouragement.

>>18108679
Dat clutch. I was thinking you posted the first picture as a joke.

>>18108695
I thought it was a lost cause. So many things could've gone wrong but they amazingly enough, didn't, glad I didn't give up and stayed focused, I needed every bit I could get.

Scarlet team fucking sucks.

>>18108825
All the team shots are super comfy compared to what a shitshow some of the solo shots can be. Just gotta get used to it.

>>18108679
don't think so about solo sakuya, she is a lot fun and even funnier when you try a no-focus run

Alice on the other side...

Anyone here have any experience using a fight stick for Touhou or STGs in general? I'm thinking about buying one.

>>18108825
Yuyuko and Youmu's team is actually called the Border Team, not the Scarlet team, anon.

>>18109201
Yeah. They great if you want something a lot more accurate, especially those coming from a gamepad who couldn't get use to WASD.

Get a Seimitsu stick above all else

>>18109202
>Yuyuko and Youmu's team
>Border Team
Not only is that not what they are called, they happen to be the best team.

>>18109319
Whoops, that's embarassing.

I can just never get into Youmu's playstyles in any of the games she's playable in, despite always being interested in how she plays. I let Yuyuko carry me through my IN 1CC with that team, they're definitely my least favourite.

>>18109345
I thought that at first, too, however, I soon found that Yuyuko clears stages harder than any other character, and Youmu can be left to solo Wriggle and most of Mystia. It was also when I learned that firing unfocused can cripple one of Marisa's non-spells, Keine's nonspells, a couple of Keine's actual spells, not to mention Youmu's bomb is a "skip boss battle" button, easily the best bomb in that game.

>>18109363
Also I should mention, Youmu got me in the habit of holding the down arrow when I'm at the bottom of the screen, and I've found that's helped me be more precise during a few of the boss fights later on in the series, like LoLK's.

>>18106744
You clearly haven't put 1000+ hours into a single game yet.

Man, slow mode is practically cheating! I used to barely make it to mid stage alice and just turning it on brings me all the way to yuyuko, almost 1ccd pcb.

Will I ever get good without it? My eyes can barely process patterns at that speed, I'll be looking where I need to go next and run right into a bullet like an idiot

>>18110110
Don't play on slow mode.

>almost 1ccd

No, you didn't.

>>18110213
The game doesn't let you save a replay if you use it, iirc.

>>18109680
you're right, I put in a few hundred because if I reached 1000 hours without having at least 1cc'd lunatic I would probably give up.

this doesnt seem like the kind of game that you would commonly put over 1000 hours into anyway

>>18108679
Congrats! I knew you could, nice filename btw.

I never thought any run with a Doremy fight as sloppy as mine could do Hecatia, but I guess Raisin really can carry any shitter.

>>18108552
tfw I used that glitch for every NB in that stage

>>18108679
Congrats man, Sakuya must be delighted.
Don't worry about it, we'll be here when you get back to the main games.

I don't know what it is, but I just can't get myself to play through Mountain of Faith, even though I've almost beaten it. Something about it just isn't as fun as the others.

>>18110518
There is no game that would commonly get over 1000 hours. A few hundred, sure.
I don't think anyone playing Touhou for 1000+ hours is doing it because they haven't gotten a Lunatic 1cc yet.

>>18110110
You will never get good by using 1cc.
Yes, you can always get good enough to snag a Normal 1CC while playing on the real game speed.

>>18110918
Why do you hate ZUN art?

>>18112670
MMOs probably would get over 1000 hours for the general playerbase, but not a danmaku game like Touhou.

>>18100585
>but I don't think there is a consensus

The community consensus is that malice cannon is valid. Take a look at some of the scoring replays on rf/pndlist, and all of them make use of it to some extent, as do the various MT LNNFS runs. I've yet to see someone who has decent experience with the game claim otherwise. MT with malice at long range is actually no stronger than youmu with both shots hitting.

>>18100480
Sure, it's unintended and a little too powerful, but it's nothing like Marisa's 3-power lasers in MoF, that's for sure.
Just don't rely on it too much.

Welp, if the first half of UFO's Extra is ass, then the other half is shit. Then there's Nue and the real nastiest trick UFO could pull off: lasers that move very, very slightly. After my power went to crap then came a piss easy red UFO attack, but the fucking drunk-conceived power loss got the best of me. At least Okina's about as easy as Ran, so it's not like I'm getting nothing done. Though I'm kinda stalling here, since the only games I have left are SA and LoLK.

>>18113041
You're probably right in that no one would dispute that a run using malice cannon is valid (just like nobody has problems with runs that abuse safespots), but I'd like to point out that there can be a difference between what counts as "valid" for a scoring run and what is usually considered as valid for a 1cc. I just checked in royalflare and pndlist, and the top scoring MoF MarisaB runs make use of the 3.0 glitch; even though you would be told here that you shouldn't use for a 1cc. So it's not as clear-cut as it would seem.

>>18113638
>the top scoring MoF MarisaB runs make use of the 3.0 glitch
brb, gonna do a MoF score run.

I made a lousy webm that I indented for the next thread op. But I won't be at home when the thread actually dies so here you go.

>>18113865
Why is PoDD running so smooth? I've been trying to 1cc it, but Okazaki is fucking impossible, and Reimu's pretty tough as well, but tolerable.

>>18097281
>Lunatic
>did it again

>>18114073
There's a couple people in these threads that basically cleared all windows lunatics on all shots. Nothing crazy.

>>18112670
it's pretty common in competitive online games. I have well over 2000 hours in csgo and most of the people I get matched with have around that or much more time than me

but for single player games, yes, it's not usual at all

>>18112712
I actually like new ZUN art, just never tried that before.

Also it gives everyone stupid smugfaces for some reason and Junko's fits exceptionally well.

>>18114105
This, the fact that not everyone likes to do charts doesn't mean there isn't people like that, a lot of them don't really care for all shot at all.