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why tho

>>17829674
I wanna knooow

I suspect that the text isn't unique (though I can only make out about half of it), but it still might be worth searching for if you can decipher it. Failing that, you could try looking around where ZUN lives / lived at the time on streetview. Or perhaps there are some photo albums of temples and shrines from various areas that you could look through.
It would be very helpful if someone could give us a better idea of what that door actually is and what sort of building it would be found on.

>>17829657
Is that really an eye on the door?

>>17829657
>Or perhaps there are some photo albums of temples and shrines

Based on my walkarounds in Nipland, i'm pretty confident in saying that Japan has more temples and shrines than there are McDonalds in America.

>>17831279
Which is why I'd love to have more to go on than "it's some kind of vaguely religiously associated building". Like, what could we tell from that text? Is it Buddhist, or Shinto? Does that look like any particular regional style?
A lack of hits on reverse image search suggests that he took the photo himself (although considering it was about fifteen years ago, maybe it's a stock photo from a defunct service). If so, would it be a (locally) well-known location, or would he purposely choose some obscure, out-of-the-way place?
Would Japanese Twitter know?

>>17829657
/sino/ might help.

>>17829657
Right: 德給仁露思雨X
Left: 與生舉息利XX
Top: 忠勤正直牛生紀
It's traditional Chinese, but the phrases themselves don't make any sense (at least to me). A quick google search didn't yield anything either.

>>17833684
Can you make out any of the words on the doors themselves(in the center)?

>>17829682
Careful with what you wish for.

>>17829657
ZUN gets his backgrounds from image searches or stock photos, like this one for Eirin's fight or this one from Ten Desires.
https://en.touhouwiki.net/wiki/Hall_of_Dreams%27_Great_Mausoleum#cite_ref-2

>>17830894
It's a door knocker

>>17829657
>images of chubby babies holding 元寶 and a fish on the door
Does Japan do this?

>>17855544
Who are you quoting

Its just a random door in rural China
t. grandparents house used to look like this before renovation

>>17858487
He quoted the picture but in text form.

>>17859263
Yeah but what does it mean

>>17829657
do you even google?

>>17833684
Is it possible it's just really fucking old kanji?

>>17833684
>德給仁露思雨X
>德洽仁霑思雨
fake chink 乙

>>17881742
conti.
goo gl/maps/NoMAW3t9WZQ2
somewhere around here, i'm not gonna go thru all the street view walking

>>17881742
What the fuck? I reverse-searched the image earlier but didn't get those results. How the fuck does that work? I fucking hate Google so much.

>>17881766
See >>17881742.
www.gosps.ptc.edu(dot)tw/country/new_page_1.html
It's Taiwanese, so definitely traditional Chinese.
It's a webpage dedicated to the history of an elementary school in the southern part of Taiwan. The reason that I couldn't understand the writings on the doors it's because it's in Hakka, and not Mandarin or Hokkien which I recognize.
The picture of the door appears alongside a set of Hakka idioms and explanations for them, but I don't see any for the writings in the picture themselves.
So close yet so far,

>>17881787
Are you sure? Admittedly, I'm just reading this through machine translation, but the maps in the first section seem to indicate that it's talking about this area: goo gl/maps/nZbdYwpLtZ22
I walked around on street view a bit, and there are a lot of doors with stuff written around them, but I haven't yet seen this particular one on any of the main streets.

>>17881742
why is zun's version of the image higher quality

>>17882857
this. what the hell

Found a fucking huge version of the image using Bing
www.nipic.com/show/3257732.html
Doesn't go in to any details though

also
http://web.archive.org/web/20110810055050/http://www.moon.zaq.jp/ohgosho/sozai/th07.htm
>「ImageFolio」（Commerce Demo）より、詳細不明。　ステージ４や花映塚の幽明結界。
>西方の浄土に至る巨大な門扉は中国風。

>>17884849
There are some more info here
https://thwiki.cc/%E4%B8%9C%E6%96%B9%E5%A6%96%E5%A6%96%E6%A2%A6/%E5%88%86%E6%9E%90%E8%80%83%E6%8D%AE
>来自「ImageFolio」（Commerce Demo）。
对联的文字似乎是德洽仁霑思雨（露），兴生举息利（）（）。反正图案上的汉字和游戏完全没有关系。
>只是看到这张图片的风格适合而已，故意用上面的文字表现什么不太可能。

>>17884849
I thought we might be able to learn something from that photo credit.
Apparently not.

>>17884998
That's the username handle of the uploader lmao.

>>17885008
So I gathered, but I really wasn't expecting that.
On the bright side, if you look at his profile on nipic, he uploaded another photo on the same day that might be the same place, or at least somewhere nearby.

>>17885048
We already know where the gate is, we just want to find out what the writings mean.

>>17885054
Sorry, did I miss part of the thread? A couple regions of Taiwan were suggested, but nobody actually pinpointed it, right?
That other photo is of the "Hengchun Old Town East Gate", which is nowhere near either of the two map links posted above.

>>17885085
Yes you did. The webpage for the region is here >>17882985.

>>17884873
>来自「ImageFolio」（Commerce Demo）。
It comes from "ImageFolio (Commerce Demo).
>对联的文字似乎是德洽仁霑思雨（露），兴生举息利（）（）。反正图案上的汉字和游戏完全没有关系。
The words seem to be 德洽仁霑思雨（露），兴生举息利（）（）. They have zero relation to the game.
>只是看到这张图片的风格适合而已，故意用上面的文字表现什么不太可能。
The image was chosen purely for its aesthetics, and it is unlikely that they signify anything.


I suspect that Hakka proverbs are unrelated and the Taiwanese webpage used some stock images just like ZUN.

>>17885149
What you've quoted and is from a baidu thread talking about PBC. "故意用上面的文字表现什么不太可能" means that the words on the gate doesn't have any deeper meaning regarding the game. It does not say anything at all about the authenticity of the images on the two other websites.
>I suspect that Hakka proverbs are unrelated and the Taiwanese webpage used some stock images just like ZUN.
I highly doubt that. First of all the dude on nipic who uploaded the highres image of the gate here >>17884849 has taken photos of other locations that are in the southernmost Pingtung county of Taiwan as well (here >>17885085 the anon - probably you yourself - had said that the gate is from Hengchun, which is a town in Pingtung), meaning that he likely took those photos together on a tour of the region (another evidence for this is if you look at the ID numbers for the two photos, they're very close). If the elementary school site also used it as stock image then it'd be unlikely that the gate would have anything to do with Pingtung, which would contradict the nipic bit of the information. Besides, why would they put up a random stock photo when they want to let others know about the culture of their region? Wouldn't they put up an actual photo of the region? That seems very unlikely.
Second of all all these links (the history of the elementary school and the nipic sites) are all the sources for the location of the image that exists. If the elementary school just happened to use a stock image then it'd be highly unlikely that that specific low resolution version of the image has only that website as its source under reverse image search (modulo sites talking about PCB).

>>17885149
Yeah, that seems to be the case. It's definitely from somewhere in Taiwan, though.
>>17885316
Doesn't that first point indicate that the door IS in Pingtung, and not near the school?
As for why that page would use a stock photo, probably most of the images there are stock or taken from other pages. Like the author was writing a report and just searched for the images he needed online rather than going out and taking them himself. And then he resized all the images to be a uniform size to fit on the page, which is why they're all low-quality JPEGs.
The "ImageFolio" demo pack that both ZUN and the report's author presumably got the image from is proving a bit hard to track down, though.

>>17885401
>Doesn't that first point indicate that the door IS in Pingtung, and not near the school?
The school is in Pingtung, albeit the northern part and the Hengchun gate is from the southern part.
>廣興村位於高樹鄉的最南方
>廣興 (name of the village, also the name of the school) village resides in 高樹 township
See pic related. 高樹鄉 is highlighted in red.
>Like the author was writing a report and just searched for the images he needed online rather than going out and taking them himself.
He would be looking for photos that actually pertain to the area, regardless if he took it himself or not.
The latest reference on the Taiwanese article about the elementary school is dated to be 2003, which means that at worse the article was written after 2003 (or it could be that the photo actually dated much further back, while the author updated the article and added more references throughout the years).
If you can find a source for the image on stock image sites like ImageFolio that dates earlier than 2003 then it'd be an evidence against that the gate is in Pingtung. Otherwise there's no such evidence yet.

>>17885401
>>17885463
In case you're still confused, Pingtung county is the entire thing region in the previous picture, while 廣興 and 恆春 are townships inside it.
Pic related highlights the Pingtung county in Taiwan.

Maybe ZUN had a vacation in Taiwan you know

>>17885463
>in Pingtung
Meant "at the school"

>>17885484
Oh, the map link from earlier was somewhere way further north. That explains it.
So right, the image is from somewhere in Pingtung, we just don't know exactly where. Based on that guy's photo gallery, I'm still leaning towards somewhere near Hengchun. But regardless, what else do we have to go on? Can we do anything better than bumbling around in street view in various towns?

>>17885535
By process of elimination I can be sure that it's Hakka, since that's the only Taiwanese dialect that I don't understand.
I'm looking through other photos of the guy who took the highres photo. Pic related is actually something I can read and understand, so it's not Hakka. It's taken on the same date so it's probably during the same tour as the door and the gate. There's a plate in the upper right hand corner (something 252) which might tell us about the exact location of this door.
On the other hand the left hand side of the original PCB door has talisman on it. Usually Taiwanese Taoist talismans have 勒令 in the middle but there it looks like it's 奉天 or something.

>>17885620
If we can track down more information regarding the talismans on the door then we might be able to track down the location, since these talismans are likely written by a local temple.
Meanwhile there's a photo of a temple on the guy's account, but it dates 2 days earlier than the photos of the doors, so I don't think it's actually this temple that wrote the talismans. Besides its plaque says 行天宮 so it's in Taipei, not Pingtung.

>>17885620
The 252 plate is the street address. The characters above might even be the street name, but good luck reading them.
I couldn't track down anything else about that photo of the blue door or the one of the other temple.
Is there some Taiwanese version of /r/ you could ask?

>>17885689
I could ask on K島, but that might take a while.

>>17881742
hey TW anon, I only recently discovered Komica. Any idea what happened to some of the boards(especially the onee chan one?)

>>17887190
Nevermind I found it, it's on it's own site.

Was the question in the OP answered yet?

>>17894408
Not quite; check the last few on-topic posts. We have it narrowed down to a region, but not a specific address or even town. Presumably chinkspeaker anon has had no replies as of yet.

>「武洛溪」流經「大路關」地區而形成類似一座孤島，交通不便。且位置處於六堆的邊陲地帶，常受到閩南人的騷擾和襲擊，因此在這些因素影響下，大路關更顯的封閉
>"Wu Luoxi" flows through an area of ​​"Da Lu Guan" to form an island similar to that of an inaccessible town.

Da Lu Guan 大路關 search results end up here. Matches the description of being closed off. Door could possibly be around here

>>17899750
Yeah, that was posted earlier. I looked on all the streets around the two major clusters of buildings to no avail, though of course it wouldn't hurt if you want to double-check.
As we were discussing earlier, while the page is talking about that area specifically, it seems to have used the same stock photo that ZUN did, just to show a general example of a Hakka idiom.
If there are really no other leads, we could just try to look through every town south of there.