/jp/ - Otaku Culture

Riichi pastebin https://pastebin.com/ML5gMMY9
>>17690001
Is Mondo stream in niconico premium-only? Comfy Sunday mahjong night sounds excellent.

>>17577653
sorry for taking a long time to respond anon.
I actually got a response from the original owner sa few days ago, however her answer was that she got it off an auction. I waited a few days more after contacting another person selling the same person, only for him to ignore me. There really aren't hints about its origin on the included materials. Heres a full pic of the set

>>17690001
Go team West

Ok so I've spent the past few weeks trying to learn mahjong and still don't understand. Reading the guides just makes my head hurt. I've been playing that Mahjong and Friends thing from the pastebin and whenever I begin to think I understand how to play I start to get confused again. How do I stop being dumb?

>>17690666
>666
Clearly you switch to full occult and just listen to your heart, discarding whichever tiles your heart feels should be discarded.

>>17690672
But Satan is only good at inferior western games.

>>17690818
What Western games is Satan good at?

>>17690666
here satan

http://www.gamedesign.jp/flash/mahjong/mahjong_e.html

>>17690874
Probably the ones that devout christians play

>>17690666
>How do I stop being dumb?
Take it from me. That never goes away.

2:0

Searching "A riichi mahjong study book download" doesn't yield results and I'm not familiar with pirating books.

Does anyone have the pdf or some sort of lead?

>>17694961
>professional mahjong players from Japan
>they're gaijin

>>17695152
>of the JPML
Don't see any problem here

>>17694961
I'm sure the authors would be happy to sell you a copy for a token price if you really wanted it, but why do you want it to begin with?

How do I stop ending up with draw matches?

>>17696234
Make sure to deal in before the round ends.

>>17695477
Daina Chiba recommended it at the end of riichi book 1 so I wanted to take a look at it.

How do I know I actually understand the game or if I just have the skill of luck?

How do I become the next Akagi ?

>>17696624
If you know how to play mahjong - or even have heard of mahjong - then you are too late.

How much japanese do I need to know for WRC matchs?
By the momento I know a lot of terms from Mahjong glossary besides the yakus.

>>17698037
JPML players will adjust to English if necessary, but yea, it'll be helpful if you can learn a bit of the lingo yourself.

has jp ever had a weiqi/baduk/igo general?

>call riichi within the first 6 turns on a decent wait
>everyone ignores defense and pushes anyway
>deal into bullshit mangan

I wish I could say this is an isolated incident, but it seems that free sex button is an invitation to rape most of the time

>>17700018
Sex is sex.

>>17700027
>it's not rape if we're both screaming

>>17700018
One of the worst feelings is seeing everyone effortlessly push their hands and keep their tenpai while your 26-sided dealer riichi gets beaten by a damaten hellwait tanki for a quintuple yakuman because FUCK YOU MAHJONG IS NOT ABOUT SKILL.

>>17700634
Get good

>>17690001
Live Stream of the Finals:

https://www.mahjongnews.com/index.php/wrc-2017/475-free-streaming-on-mondo-t-v-coverage-of-world-riichi-championship-finals.html

I tried holding onto yakuhai more often but there are still some bits i'm not too comfortable with.

I get that if I don't give people yaku, then they can't win but I can't bear folding without seeing neither calls nor riichi.
When is it time to discard yakuhai?

>>17702120
>When is it time to discard yakuhai?
If you want to kill them off, then drop them early, especially if you see them getting in the way of getting to tenpai.
If you want them as safe tiles, then wait for someone else to start the lead.
If it is late and the tile is live, then don't bother.

>>17700634
Watch and learn:
http://tenhou.net/0/?log=2017091312gm-00a9-0000-68b3a190&tw=3&ts=6

September is ending. Post your stats.

I had a hot start to the month too...

>need just one tile to win
>none of the tile needed has been discarded yet
>can't seem to draw it
>round keeps going until draw
>the AI had 2 in their garbage hand

2:4 on Tenhou

Someone?

>>17703787
>tried to join
>the match just started
Oh well.

>>17703263
3+2+4+4
I pledged to play more but then WOTC happened. The rage should be spent one way or another, but can't be both.

Christ, a mangan direct hit sure hurts like hell

3:0

That's beautiful ending. Good job.

>>17703961
>go from second to last simply on that one round because I was the dealer

Impressed, yet mad

3:0

If you are playing in the US IORMC qualifier, the tournament lobby changed. Check your email for the new lobby.

>>17700634

Classical Japanese mahjong has a more equal balance of luck and skill. Some people in Japan still play it, which is kind of cool, but it's nowhere near as popular as riichi.

Modern Japanese mahjong really dials up the luck factor because it was popularized by mobsters and professional gamblers. With the proliferation of dora and the overwhelming emphasis on concealed hands, it's not hard to see how the rules were designed to make it easier and more profitable to cheat.

3:0

3:0

http://tenhou.net/0/?log=2017100205gm-0029-0000-3b74c1cd&tw=3

First game of the month and everything works out just fine. Didn't have to do anything, everyone else fixed the game for me.

LAPOM.

I endorse them. Play there. If you want some good games of mahjong, this is a good place to be.

>>17711361
fine. see you on the 14th

With recent event in LV, I wonder if WRC event will be postponed, held in different place, or cancelled.

>>17711793
>checked OP video
>This video has been removed by the user.
Okay.

I'm trying Tengokuhai. Someone wants to briefly explain me how it works? What is the purpose of the Gold and Gems? I get that, from the four modes, the second one is regular online playing, but what are the others? How do I get cute avatars?

>>17711899
サシウマ is gold-betting game. It's an one-hand game and your gain/loss is based on how big your winning hand is. It's the most all-or-nothing mode ever, the rage fuel is much worse than anything Tenhou has ever given.
The rest should be pretty clear. Online, play with friends, tournaments.

Gold and gems are for character rolling. I don't know how you can get free gems, but you can get gold from that sashiuma mode match.

Also, in sashiuma mode, you can pick your 'combi / friend'. It doesn't do much, but it can make hand and ron opponent. If you use them more, it can work better against riichi or dama hand. You use combi point (CP) to buy better combi.
>checked back the game
>2mil CP free
Well that's nice and all, but where's that godly singleplayer?

>>17712261
I thought I'd try tengokuhai as well. I'm in my first match and this guy is d/c'd while in riichi, there's a red exclamation mark and the hourglass is on him.
Does the game have a timeout or am I stuck in this match with this guy?

>>17712278
Just play normally. It will end and re-pick another opponent, and if you win your hand, you'll get your gold.

>>17712289
The turn isn't moving.
It's been the same guy's turn for a couple minutes now.

>>17712289
all's good now.

>>17712261
Thank you for the info.

>Well that's nice and all, but where's that godly singleplayer?
Yeah, I recall this game having one and not finding it was confusing.

http://tenhou.net/0/?log=2017100303gm-0029-0000-5d9892d0&tw=0&ts=1

Asshole tried to ruin my day. He burnt in hell for it.

WRC in Vegas. No mahjong people directly affected by the shooting.

>>17712583
They updated the game to its current state now. Soon™

I'm looking for a blog that had an in detail insight on how to know what the other players hands. It explained by what they discarded and what they took from others. it's been ages since I've read it, but it was insightful as fuck.

>>17690001
2nd link in there is broken

Finally some mahjong activity over here and THAT happens. Maybe it's a sign?

>>17716651
>link is broken
BANG
RATATATATTATAATAA

My connection to tenhou is fucking horrible. Is it just me? I don't play often, so I don't know if that's normal from time to time

>>17716651
http://reachmahjong.com/en/2013/04/improving-your-mahjong-beginners-3-reading-discards/

>>17717269
I used to have the same problem but I got a new computer recently and haven't disconnected once. I think it might just be that your internet connection is horrible in general (whether due to computer or wifi) and it is only noticeable on Tenhou. Try another computer if possible, otherwise I don't know a fix.

3.0

GUESS I'M DONE FOR THE NIGHT!

>>17719548
Fucking nice

>>17717612
thanks

Post your recent bullshit hand.

>>17726022
>When you go from trash hand to chiitoi isshanten to suuankou tenpai and get the tsumo

>>17726100
Now that's some devil's luck.

anyone have a busted set they're willing to sell me cheap? I'd be using some tiles for decorative purposes so missing/damaged tiles is AOK

>>17726521
buy it from china

>>17726559
>shipping plus duties
might as well buy new locally

>>17726795
From what I can see on tao bao, a brand new set of japanese mahjong tiles is 4-13 USD. I can see that they won't be charging me for delivery but I can't see where else they ship or how much they will charge.
You can't beat China in price. Even with shipping, I think it should still beat buying locally. Since anon is fine with busted up tiles, the only worry is if it's a total rip-off and nothing shows up.

>round suddenly ends even before everyone had a chance to discard

What the fuck happened?

>>17728750
kyushukyihai

think of it as a mulligan option if your starting hand has 9 or more honor/terminal tiles

it's often times a good move unless you're confident you can pull off 13 orphans (kokushi mousou)

>>17728785
Oh, okay. Thanks

>>17728750
Haven't seen that name for a long time.

WRC standings after Day 1:

http://wrc2017vegas.com/#results

>win by Ron two times in a row, same guy both times
>he ends up under 0
>I don't even win, just second place

S-sorry m8

>>17728937
>quick rundown on #55

>>17729002
;_;

West rounds make me go doki doki

http://tenhou.net/0/?log=2017100700gm-0089-0000-037beabb&tw=1

>3:0

>>17730396
That was fast

>>17730421
Scary ura-dora

>double ron

What the fug
Isn't headbump a thing

>>17730483
This ain't Akagi.

>>17730523
So you can get double fucked if two people declare the same discard? Man.

>>17730567
Yes, indeed. Triple ron isn't a thing though, the round just ends.

>>17730523
In mahjong, getting fucked is a given

>3:0

>3:0

>Played Mahjong with my friends today
>Used a shitty set and a crappy mat.
>Tiles were chipped and marked in places
>Tiles kept slipping around and falling over
>Friend somehow got an All Green Yakuman, only to notice he was in Furiten
>I played a pretty boring game of Mahjong, didn't deal into anyone and folded at any Riichi
>Somehow won a Mangan hand from 2 Ura Dora, and finished off with an open obvious San Shoku to get 36000 overall, with someone trailing behind with 35600
>Honestly found playing with that Mahjong set annoying and couldn't even make a wall properly

Crappy greentext behind, where can I get a good Mahjong set for around £60-80 (plastic, yellow backs preferably, and no translations on the tiles)? Another friend I used to play with recommended the Taiyo Chemicals Sango since that was the set he used, but I can't seem to find one anywhere, that set would be pretty perfect.

>>17734628

>>17734628
>a good Mahjong set for around £60-80
You can't
You'll have to invest some dollars into a good mahjong set

>>17734628
A 5 second google search brings up Yellow Mountain Imports at $52.99. Yellow backed with red fives and no translations.

>>17735821
5m?

>>17735821
I'd say 5m

>>17735821
7m because both people in tenpai have 1m and 4m discards. 5m looks reasonable too since it passed not too long ago.

>Tfw first yakuman
Feels so gud

>>17735837
>>17735908
but Kamicha could have a 67m wait no? Fighting a riichi with a double sided wait on the dora doesn't seem out of the question. What's more, your 5m is red. If Kamicha is willing to fight a riichi, shouldn't she be the scarier one to fold against?

>>17736368
Yeah, now that I looked it the second time, that 5m shimocha looks like discarded before riichi, so probably not safe.
Kamicha 67m is possible, but that means he had 677m before that 2nd row discard. I don't know, maybe it's too early to break that? 3s is probably better. then.

>>17736077
Grats senpai, also nice you came back with it.

>>17735821
7m or 3s

>>17735821
9m

>2:0

>>17737503
literally had the match start a frame before I clicked... Have fun guys...

How do I edit the client sounds and backgrounds? I can't decipher these runes and there doesn't seem to be that much documentation about this out there.

Congratulations
You played yourself

>>17737684
>get a hand full of honors and no pairs
>remember >>17728750
>call kyshikyiahi because fuck trying to collect 13 Orphans
>get new hand
>guy opposite of me declares Double Riichi instantly

This might have been a mistake

>>17735821
>>17735837
>>17735908
>>17735923
>>17736782
>>17736845
At the end of the day, I'm still not sure what compelled toimen to cut the 9m; I was wondering if I was missing out on something.
Maybe it was just the nerves.

>>17737948
An attempt to get tanyao as an extra yaku I imagine. Same thought passed through my head, but I didn't have a good answer for the WWYD.

>>17737955
but against 2 riichis while in first that's too greedy.

>>17737948
1chance for 78 and 1chance for shanpon, 2chance tanki. It's not that dangerous. Also he sees a bunch of dora and has a bunch himself, most of the hands he deals in are not too expensive plus a chance to increase the lead. 9m isn't that bad an option. Now, do you think he benefitted or didn't benefit from dealing in riichi nomi and advancing the game?

>3:0

Hello, is this the exorcist?

WRC grand finals are ongoing: https://freshlive.tv/jpml/154821

>>17738716
What the fuck, I thought it was in 7 hours
Thanks

First hanchan finished, they're now taking a break before the next one.

Yo it’s Moriyama-pro teaching by beating everyone else senseless

>>17738982
More like, Moriyama flirting by using mahjong. What a boss. Heart of a lion.

Second hanchan starting.

>holding mahjong tournament final
>during Sunday Night Football
Sorry guys, I'm sticking with that one.

>2:0

>3:0

Come ooon

3.0

>>17739300
That mahjong is once every 3 years or so

>rank up
>lose half my points in two days time

I really need to quit this shit and focus on live play instead

>>17745148
Get good.

what do you think about the latest chapter?

>>17745640
Enjoy normal mahjong while you can because the match after this one is kind of silly. I guess you'll find out when FKMTkrazy translates it in 2020.

>>17745148
I hope you are actually joking.

>>17738997
And his wife sat to his right

I hate myself for doing this but I have no one to talk to about Mahjong and Fukumoto stuff...
https://discord.gg/bzTy9h
I'm a terrible person I know

Did Tenhou change or something?

I'm trying SEGA MJ. So flashy and fun. But it has the same problem as Janryumon: to play ranked games you need to pay (that I can't even if I wanted to because Japan hates gaijin money) or play too much free tonpusen (+50 in the last 8 games for 200G?).

Every time I play mahjong I visualize that my ass is on the line and the other 3 players are futa girls with very big dicks that are eager to ravage my butthole. That incites to give every move more thought than a "this should be fine" lax decision.

>>17754371
>Every time I play mahjong I visualize that my ass is on the line and the other 3 players are futa girls with very big dicks that are eager to ravage my butthole
Sounds like your regular game of Mahjong, yes.

>>17754371
and this motivates you to win how?

>>17754371
That would be a huge motivation to learn to read waits, just to make dealing in easier.

>>17754371

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rn6wRy-r-ho

It'd be nice to get ASAPIN in 7447 one day.

>>17754558
I'm thinking it would be fairly easy to design a dragon dildo with a lever attached to an Arduino that gets activated when you get ron'd... gotta think about it.

Come wager your butthole guys.
2:0

>>17754581
He'll definitely show up, I'd be willing to bet my butthole on that.
Whether 3 other people will show up at the same time or not is up for debate.

>Play calmly, Learn aggressively
sounds pretty cool

3:0

>>17755469
Well, when 7447 had other Tenhoui pop in, a few other houous followed them.

Any good strip mahjong game ? Tenhou grind is getting on my nerves and I just want to enjoy stupid lewd mahjong

>>17762811
>enjoy
>strip mahjong
Not happening.

From a tile development perspective what's worse (as in what do you get rid of first): otakaze or redundant tiles (such as having a 1 when you have a 4 or 8 when you have a 5)?

>>17764088
If you keep an otakaze, it can help form the head of a pinfu and stop others from getting their winds while the 1 doesn't add any urekire so I say to throw the 1 first. I also think an otakaze is better as a safe tile.

What I find more interesting rather is how to deal with 258. Should you break it into 25 58 or keep all 3? I always keep all 3 for as long as possible but maybe someone else has thoughts on it.

>>17765503
>Should you break it into 25 58 or keep all 3?
Those aren't blocks at all. You have 3 isolated blocks of size 1. You will want to cut the 2 or 8 immediately most of the time, and probably dump the other the next turn.

got to play with a pro yesterday and pick her brain a bit. she won all her games as far as I know and it was a fun experience.

If you're into mahjong and dont have access to real play I feel sorry for you

>>17767759
>Loses all games
>Feels pity for others

>>17768075
I won all my games aside from hers, you assume I had her all to myself.

>>17768098
Was she good for you?

>>17767759
I don't want to travel cross-country just for that.

>>17754349
Yeah, it's not really the kind of game you can play every single day for a rank like Tenhou unless you're rich.

I've been playing SEGA MJ for a while now and I mostly play a few times during the week when the daily login bonus is a free-play ticket (usually this is around 2 or 3 days a week, if there's an event it is usually more). If you're a combination of good and lucky, you can make these tickets run pretty far, because placing first means you don't have to spend it. I have a store of around 2500 chips that has never really been lower than that, because if you burn them all playing events, and actually place decently in the event, you usually make what you spent back after the event is over as prize money, if not make a little profit.

So I recommend saving up through the free matches, and play a lot of games during the events (which also gives you free goodies like backgrounds and stuff usually).

Also, it should usually accept gaijin money. A friend was able to pay with Bank of America debit card, and another from some russian bank. Maybe it doesn't like your bank?

>>17770126
Isn't it available in Google Play? You can do IAP from there.

isn't the new Akagi drama already started? Any raw of it?

>>17770220
I think it's only in the Japanese app store so I don't know if that will affect anything.

What would you do?
Protip: You're in tenpai.

>>17773768
what I SHOULD do is stay dama and see if the hamd can turn into chinitsu or even suuankou. knowing myself I'd just riichi and hope to draw the dora

>>17773776
Riichi on what? You can cut the 5, 6 or 9 for tenpai.

The correct option was staying dama. It all depends on whether the toimen would still have called the 8m, but if you cut the pei and called riichi with a 2333456 677889 it would have been a beastly 1-2-4-7s wait, and with the ippatsumo that was waiting right around the corner, it would have been a sanbaiman.

>>17773768
Dama. Let the fool be the one to drop dora carelessly.

>>17773780
Wait, shit, I forgot to include iitsu. It would have been a counted Yakuman. Fuck me.

>>17773768
Drop that 9s. Lady luck will give me that suuankou

>>17773768
Could those 5m and 5p discards make warning flag for honitsu, or am I just second-guessing it?

>>17773768
I say riichi with 5s. That's mangan to take 3rd and if you haneman tsumo you overtake 3rd by 10k. It's a strong enough hand yet still leaves room for a baiman gyakuten.

>Start round ii-shanten
>End round ii-shanten

>>17775960
Mahjong said, "Haha, fuck you."

>been too tired to play
>afraid to restart and lose

>>17783972
Yea, well... I'm going through some mahjong PTSD right now. So, I need a break. But I'll get back into it.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-WjxshdGFpQ

I'm sorry if this was asked a million times before, but I'm trying to learn and I would like to play by myself on that 4winds game, but the official website only has a shareware version, would anyone know where I could pirate the full version, preferably with the tutorial? I already ran searches on qbit and they all lead to dead torrents that have just been sitting there for the last couple of days.

>>17789237
People rarely download software to play singleplayer mahjong which explains both your difficulty in finding a proper torrent and seeder issue. People learning how to play get recommended the gamedesign flash game. You're not going to play it anymore once you move on to multiplayer so don't mind the graphics.
After the flash game loads, scroll down to view the cheat sheet.

Read the new player links in the pastebin if you haven't already. Google anything you don't understand. If that doesn't work then ask here.
Alternatively, you could manually work out the mahjong rules on your own and become the next Akagi.

2:0 and 4 people in the lobby, come on guys

There's a chance I'll be traveling to London and I was thinking it could be chance to play mahjong irl if I manage to find a club or something. But then I'm a little reluctant. Anyone has any experience with mahjong clubs?

>>17791025
What do you want to know?

>>17791274
I've only played online before so I am afraid I'm going to mess up if I play irl. Should I find a club that is open to beginners? Is it worth it in the first place? I'm a little too anxious to participate in something like this and don't know what to expect from people there, but I want to play mahjong.

>>17791318
stop being a lil bitch

if you explain that this is your first time playing live mahjong, but that you have played online, it will be fine.

>>17791601
Alright, I'll try. Thank you.

>>17791613
here's a few tips for you:
first of all, no one is going to give you shit for being unfamiliar with live play unless it's some kind of high-tension gambling den. clubs are way more friendly.

watch some youtubes on setting up walls and breaking it. ultimately you're going to be assisted by other players but it doesnt hurt to practice the dice throw resilts, especially if you own tiles.

I dont know if you'll be playing on auto tables or not but always push your wall forward once build. again, youtube is your friend.

as far as actual play is concerned, you'll feel pressured to match the speed of other players, try not let this push you into making mistakes. unlke tenhou there's no timer limiting the time you spend deciding your discards, but if you're going to spend some time thinking it's customary to sive a quick "sorry" to the other players out of courtesy.

unlike tenhou there will be no prompt/ pause when you can call chi/pon/ron so know ahead of time what your plans are and be ready to call once you've decided to.

ultimately stay out of your own head and you'll find live play opens up a whole new dimension to the game.

oh, and remember your poker face

>>17791745
That's very helpful. Thanks a lot! I'll take your advice into account.

I feel like I just blew my year's supply of luck on one hanchan on Tenhou

No regrets tho

>start playing
>disconnect
>tenhou won't let me connect again
>o-ok
At least I wasn't winning.

>>17792547
Post replay.

>>17793188
http://tenhou.net/0/?log=2017102202gm-0009-7447-807647ba&tw=3

Nothing as spectacular as a Yakuman, just a lot of good starting hands when maintaining dealer position

>>17791773
Not him, but some additional stuffs:
-take care of the tiles, always keep them on top of table and don't slam them.
-put and arrange tiles as neat as possible, it'll help you and other players. Also, flip tiles as required (during riichi, making pon/chi call, etc).
-know how to count fu/han. They will likely help you, but doesn't hurt if you know how to do it yourself.

>>17793756
Thanks.
I hope I don't drop my tiles like a certain someone did.
Does this actually happen?

>>17793789
Depending on the table. Usually mahjong tables have borders on their edges so you can line up your tiles after you arrange them. You can still slip up and throw those tiles out, so be careful.

>>17792547
>>17793204
I got 2 +80.0 games this year so trust me, the luck doesn't run out.

>watching pro game on youtube
>halfway in, can't stand it anymore
>pause video and pull up tenhou
>play a game and get 1st
>fell relief, can now continue video

I guess mahjong is like porn now?

>Fortuna hates you
>Flow doesn't exist

>>17795636
I avoided one hand like that yesterday. The guy called kan and the flipped dora indicator gave him Dora 4 on the tiles he just called.

I paniced so fucking hard.

>>17795643
I just figured out how to display walls and holy fucking shit. That was fucking close

>>17795651
Well, congratulations on being a bit luckier than everyone else in this scenario

>>17794800
I remember a couple months back when I was masturbating (using my imagination), amidst the flood of paizuris and blowjobs I suddenly had visions of ippatsumentanpins and people dealing into my iipeikou suji traps.
I still think they're sexy as fuck but that was some weird shit.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mWbLI6cxEvI

PML Team Competition (Saki-style)

There should be a limit to how much you can bully somebody in mahjong.

>>17798156
That was not enough bullying

>>17745148
all losses gone. took a while but we're back to basecamp

hopefully I can ride this train all the way to the next level...

btw, anyone have the ascii dude (kokushi haku pon) version of this pic?

I want a set for riichi but I want larger tiles than pretty much any japanese set I've seen. Should I just get a cheap chinese 3.5x2.4x2.0 set and repaint some 5s with model paint to make them red?

>>17799602
How big do you want? Chinese mahjong tiles are huge.

>>17800028
Not always. Some are the size of your palm but most of the sets I've seen in the West have tiles that aren't that much bigger than the riichi standard.

Should I kan when in tenpai in the hopes of getting a rinshan kaihou or kan immediately to scare everyone off and secure second? The kan dora is also 6s so everyone folding is pretty much guaranteed.
I'd like to hear someone else's take on it.

>>17801124
fyi given that point spread in s4 no one is going play it safe no matter how scary your hand is.

at a quick glance I would keep the four 6s in your hand and toss the 7s. once you draw 2s,5s or 3p close kan the 6s and hope for a rinshan. keep pushing if you dont win right there

Go greedy for the yakuman or chicken out? I really wasn't sure

>>17801844
it really depends on your placement and the round. if you're in the lead by a smaller margin, go for the quick win. If you're in the lead by a large margin then go for it. the opposite is true if you're last. if you're last by a large margin, go for the yakuman. otherwise work your way back up in safe strikes.

this is also affected by the round number. the later in the game you are the more you need that big hit. the one exception would be if you're in the lead by a small margin then you need to end the game asap or risk getting overtaken.

hope that made sense

>>17801124
When in doubt don't kan at all.

>>17801844
What yakuman? Suuankou? Don't be silly. You don't even have three, let alone four.

>>17801124
The deal with postponing the kan is that if you then get a chance to call chii on 3p or 25s, you'd have to cut the 6s to actually hit tenpai, which could be very risky. Personally, I'd kan right away and deal the 7s.

>>17800028
>>17800452
I would personally love to have fuckhuge tiles the size of my palm but I think the people I play with wouldn't like that so I'm looking at sets that are around 150% the size of the set we have already

>>17801932
Well as it stands, it's barely worth anything, so might as well wait for another pair to at least go toitoihou.

>>17801862
In hindsight, I probably shouldn't have chickened out immeadiately, wasn't worth it. Was the first round

>Still down for maintenance.

feels so good

>>17801844
Suuankou is extremely unlikely given you only have 2 ankous, not going for it is correct.
You're right that tanyao nomi is not worth it but there's a whole lot of ways your hand could go. Tanyao iipeikou, a 36s ryanmen for riichi tanyao tsumo, or you could stay put and aim for sanankou mangan. You can see kamicha is trying to tanyao and get honba so winning quickly wouldn't be that bad either.

Go get an ID so you can play in joukyuu.

>>17801844
Dama tsumo grants mangan.

If you ron with this hand, it is just a shit tanyao.

>>17802875
Time to climb some ladder I guess. Wonder where I end up. I still kinda feel like a beginner. I can't even calculate points properly yet or know the han for every yaku

>>17805874
>Wonder where I end up
If YL4 was registered, it would be at 1dan right now.

http://tenhou.net/0/?log=2017102509gm-0029-0000-93e7ae4e&tw=3&ts=7

Toimen, you're one lucky bastard. Spent the entire game dealing in like a retard and I save your ass.

>>17806775
You were merciful

>>17694961
Better to learn Japanese and get cracking on the ridiculous world of Mahjong literature.

>>17808005
Sad, but true.

>>17808005
My japanese is good enough that I should be able to handle it, given that mahjong strat books are niche so the vocabulary shouldn't be too difficult.
However, same question, does anyone know any good places to pirate them?

3:0

>>17810712
forever

>>17810712
>3:0
>open program
>0:4
Every time.

>get my hand
>hear the BLEEP of being able to call something
>Ah, shit, do I have that many terminals?
>No, wait, I don't have any, what th-
>RIICHI
>mfw

Double riichi is some straight up bullshit, but I'll take it

>>17810949
After discarding all my safe tiles, it feels like pic related really.

>get ron'd by the same guy all game
>he always hords the tile I need

I'm new and I already want to kill my enemies, is this normal?

This game is too warui for my shinzou.

>>17808678
/jp/ archives, reddit (no joke). Also it's hardly niche, about as big as Poker literature.

>>17811515
Dora revealed my own Kan and the faggot to the right cockblocked me.
I wish I knew Mahjong so I could bully those fags

>>17811614
You chose the wrong tanki

>>17808678
I suggest buying them if you can. The key to getting more English strategy resources is showing that there's demand for it.

>>17811614
Why even richii there? I don't see the point

>>17812676
pic related.

Also, he is a ninjin carrot so don't expect too much.

>>17812676
If 4 sou pops out, then it's worth it. Even if not yakuman, then chance at the urabomb.

Fuck this kursoge, I'm starting to understand you guys. Toimen just went wild. I don't even know if it's just luck or some skill too

>tfw in riichi but hand is such a clusterfuck that you have no idea what you're waiting on when you discard

After learning how tenhou works (or so I think) I don't understand why anyone above 1kyu would ever play in ippan.

Am I correct that it's easier to get points but also easier to get your rate gangraped? Why would anyone prioritize points over rate?

I saw tons of 2 and 3-dans when I was in ippan

>>17813858
They think, that it is easier to win in ippan, due to easier competition. Little do they know, all sorts of shit happen in there.

>>17813858
Rating is based on the other players' rank so a shinjin beating houou players would have a huge jump in R while a 3dan trashing kyuukyuus would get barely anything. If the 3dan slips up just once and gets trashed by beginner's luck, their R will take a hit so you're right that your rate gets gangraped in ippan.

Some people are too big of a wuss to put their points on the line. They don't believe in themselves and think that they suck so they only care about points then whine when they can't meet the rating requirement for tokujou.

>>17813858
As an absolute newbie - how can I play in Ippan? Playing with anons is fun but sometimes it's hard to get my daily hanchan quota due to timezones

>>17814402
Wait, no, that was fairly obvious after just giving it a try.

great way to spend the evening
alone

>>17812711
It's still not really worth it I think. The riichi just signaled the toimen and kamicha to go defense against a hand that can win dama for either just short of mangan or yakuman in the best case scenario, while also taking away the ability to defend and switch up the wait. I don't really think the extra few thousand points and potential bump up to a haneman (that isn't even really needed considering the lead) for a few extra thousand more really justifies lowering one's chance of winning, especially considering he was sitting east and he already had a mangan lead on everyone.

>>17814840
>3-way wait
>Suji trap wait for yakuman
I'd do it.

1.0

>>17815459
3.0

>>17815484
again

My flow got sucked out the moment I decided to play on Ippan and I got second place once in ten matches

I clicked a button and this happened
what'd I do? What do these runes mean?

>>17818834
see >>17728785

good move most of the time

Do you think removing ura doras would improve the game?

>>17819038
Did you get fucked by a scary uradora, anon?

I honestly hate the whole dead wall debacle, having to account for 14 tiles never being used in a round is hell for my plan confidence

>>17819041
No, but I find a lot of my really big wins come from Ura Doras and it doesn't feel like I planned out and earned that win myself.
I get that mahjong is luck based and that's fine, but I like to feel that my wins come from me anticipating and using probability

>>17819038
>losing pretty bad at start of south, one guy below me at around 5k
>he discards my wait
>decide to ron since it's not a big hand
>ura dora to mangan
>game over
I deserved this desu

>>17819038
It would make the game extremely boring. Almost all of the doki doki moments in a game for me are the ippatsu, kan dora and ura dora draws, I don't think I would be able to handle an endless string of mentanpins and tanyao dora; it would probably bore me to death.
At its core, mahjong is a game and if I'm not having fun there's no point in playing. I'd take getting screwed over by ura dora any day.

>>17819038
I just treat it as bonus. It might be useful to put into consideration when you're making set hands or chiitoi, but it's unreliable.
Of course it can also be your extra anal buttplug when opponent already slams through a dido.

>>17819041
That's what makes mahjong work. Without the dead wall, it would just become a pure battle of wits. But since not everything is predictable, you can do some more

>>17819041
If you don't like the dead wall, then go play some American mahjong.

Do we have a discord?

Fuck off.

>>17821684
the osamuko one

>on a 10 game streak
>mostly 2nd places

not bad... or good?

>>17821739
What?

>>17820777
Please, I have standards and don't know when the civil war happened.

>>17820773
I know, but the stress is killing me whenever I'm trying to plan ahead for a more complicated hand

I'm trying to make a thing. Green dragon and 8 sou need work but do any of the others stand out as being especially bad? Didn't realize how tiny I'd need to make these.

>>17822134
looks good. what are you making?

>>17822187
I'm not sure yet. Some form of mahjong on 3DS. I was planning to try to do a local multiplayer thing but I'm not too confident in my ability to get local multiplayer working. I've got a few tenhou client implementations I can read through and maybe give making a 3DS tenhou client a try

>>17822134
Haku should be blank. Looks great otherwise.

>>17822134
The 6p looks pretty confusing.

>>17822134
3p-5p not being round is bothering me.

>>17822134
9m, nan, and chun look a little weird, but the rest are fine

2:0

>>17821684
>>17821786
https://discord.gg/HehJtrH
It's not really "our" Discord server, it's shared with people from Reddit and elsewhere, so try and hide your powerlevel a bit or they might sperg out about pedos and weebs.

There's also this server for people who are more eager to learn strategy and get good. Again, shared with Reddit, so be warned.
https://discord.gg/zGTNKdd

>>17823330
3.0

>>17822134
>3s,4s,6s not all green
How do you expect people to get ryuuiisou in your game?

>>17824514
None of 23468s are all green, this is actually a very valid concern.
Alternatively, flipping your hand closed will also let you ryuuiisou.

And now introducing:

The Neko Dora

Once the walls are built, put a cat on the play area. Which ever tile the cat knocks first is the dora.

>>17823346
I could make one that would only be ours.

>>17823346
Thank you

>>17824903
Look at the rate we post and discuss, there's really no need to.

>>17824953
Is the thread dead

What now? I logged in every now and then. No games since April though.

>>17826837
>対戦を行っていない

>>17826837
Ah shit, I forgot that was a thing that happened. Guess I should finally get back in for a match at some point soon, since its been a while since I've played too.

cant sleep and ive been thinking back to all my memories of ぱいろん
i really miss having a community of otaku to play with all day
it seems like there will never be a place as comfy to play online ever again...

The month is coming to a close. How did you do?
It could have been better, but all around it's a net positive for both R and points for me.

>tfw (cheapo) mahjong set arrived

>>17832905
Net positive in points but I was not in a really good position at the start either.
Can't wait to reach 4dan and see what my R is like then.

>>17832905
I played a whopping four 7447 games this month. It was nice to take a break.

Finally they sorta give singleplayer mode back to Tengokuhai. Now if only they put back that dragon hunt mode, that was top stuff.
They also give tons of coins but who cares.

I just want to win a game of mahjong. Why doesn't this stupid game let me win? What's wrong with me wanting to win? Why is everyone else always winning while I just pay everyone my precious points? It's just unfair! It's a game of chance, a game of luck! So I should win 25% of the time, right? RIGHT? Then where are those wins? Where are my winning tiles? They never come! This game is shit! SHIT

>>17835248
Is there a way to play without the timer?

>>17835903
No. Deal with it.

If the timer really bothers you, then improve your skills with the AI for a bit longer.

>>17835523
Mahjong is not a game of chance. It's a field for practicing occult magic to manipulate probability

>>17837765
Play the game. Make choices. Live with the consequences.

That is mahjong.

>>17838031
>Play the game. Live with the consequences.
Fixed it for ya

>>17838031
Has anyone here ever played mahjong with real money?

>>17839017
yes

it didnt end well

3 man mahjong is fucking crazy

>>17839032
Tell me your tale of woe anon

>>17837290
I mean I play IRL and on tenhou. Tengokuhai used to be the relax and play a hand while taking a shit app.

>>17839089
nothing to tell really. sat at a table and got cocky. Got taken to the cleaner's.

>>17839162
>I play IRL
Geez, you must be slow as fuck then.

>>17839489
I think what she's trying to say is that since she plays irl and on Tenhou, she can play fast and speed isn't an issue. However, she would like a nice relaxing 1p game without a timer if possible.

>>17839782
speed is an issue irl. it's true that there's no timer when it's your turn, but thete are no peompts so calling needs to be planned ahead of time. You are also pressured to match your opponent's pace so the "no time limit" isnt really somethingyou can rely on

>>17839162
It's a shame, really. Tengokuhai's singleplayer was the best singleplayer mahjong in mobile phone, now it's just a SEGA MJ copycat.

>>17690001
Akagi and Kaiji vs Saki and Nodoka in Washizu Mahjong who wins?

>>17840950
No one.
No one wins at mahjong.

>>17840960
There can only be one winner

>>17840950

>3:0

who else here loses more than they win

>>17846757
right here bro...

what does this mean

>>17847522
Looks like four kan calls from multiple players, abortive round.