/jp/ - Otaku Culture

>>17512305
tfw bullshit occurs

How do I obtain happiness with mahjong?

>>17512357
By playing the game. If you don't enjoy it, then all you care about are ranks

>>17512357
By not playing seriously

Where is the best place to order a physical set of tiles?

>>17512846
If you just want to play the game with other people on a table, I recommend getting a deck of mahjong cards. Y'know, like a trump deck, except it has mahjong tiles printed on them. I got a set new from Yellow Mountain Imports for less than $10. Very cost effective, and you don't have to teach people how to hold tiles.
If you're hard set on tiles, you have to think about whether you want plastic or ceramic. You also need to make sure it comes with the point sticks, and you'll probably want one that doesn't have the ugly numbers in the corners. You should also keep in mind that riichi mahjong tiles are smaller than, say, chinese mahjong tiles, and you will want a set with red fives so you can play ariari. You also have to remember that to manipulate tiles you need a square table with an edge so you can make walls in a reasonable amount of time.
Your only option for less than $100 is to buy a plastic set. Very few companies make these; the only ones I know of are, again, Yellow Mountain Imports, and AMOS. AMOS does not ship outside of Japan, but they're having a sale right now, so they might still be your cheapest option if you can find an inexpensive proxy. I can't speak to the quality of either, but you should know that neither sell a set that is completely standard (all replace green ink with black or yellow).
Funnily enough, the straight cheapest set online right now is a Washizu Mahjong set.

In terms of where to buy, if you get it from Amazon you can get some free shipping on some other stuff. If you're an American, make sure you buy using a CREDIT card; that way if you get ripped off not only is the seller liable, so is your credit card company, which will help you get your money back.

I was your kamicha, I riichi'd but I was thinking maybe I shouldn't have.

3:0

2:0 here

>>17512357
Tenhou isn't mahjong. Tenhou is last place avoidance and betaori simulator. Playing with people you know in person is mahjong. There's nothing wrong with hating the Tenhou grind.

>>17517064
>There's nothing wrong with hating the Tenhou grind.
And I fucking hate that shit, to hell!

>>17517106
it might not be as much that you hate it so much as the "ranked anxiety" a lot of people get for various things.

>>17512357
Come to terms that there will be things that are out of your control.

>>17517516
Very wise words here.

>>17512357
Every time you make a decision do it with full confidence that it's the correct decision. If you're the type of person to drop haku first turn because it's the best decision and you immediately pick up another haku on your next draw and wince then you need to stop having the mindset that leads to you wincing. If you decide to push and you feel your hand in terms of value and points quality justifies pushing and you deal in and you wince and get frustrated then you need to get over that. If the decision you made was correct with the information you had then you shouldn't even think about it. You should only feel bad when you make bad decisions with the info you had. Like "i'll just push against last place's desperation riichi to try to catch first" and costing yourself 2nd place.

>>17512357
Don't play

>>17512357
Play mahjong eroge.

>>17520046
recommend one pls

>>17512357
Play face to face against friends. The closer you are to them, the better. On Tenhou, fun means playing 7447 against anons you know.
What you have to accept is that Tenhou ranked isn't built for fun nor happiness. You can feel excitement when your hand comes together or relief when you escape by the skin of your teeth but you will never feel happy. Happiness can only come from human warmth so to obtain happiness with mahjong, you will need to add human warmth into the game.
Keeping your cool while playing on Tenhou is one thing but playing and actually having fun is another.

>>17521762
I agree I actually bought mahjong tiles just for this purpose. There's nothing funnier than your declaring a Ron against your friend face to face

>>17521762
I generally have fun in ranked tenhou.

>>17521762
Playing people at the real mahjong regularly creates bonds. Makes the game extra fun.

>>17522427
Being able to see the eyes of the asshole who wins with a one han hand and ruins your yakuman does not result in a friendly atmosphere. Playing IRL with friends is fine if you're either just screwing around but being serious can be pretty difficult unless all of the people you're playing with are veterans.

>>17522461
Well, if you like the people, who you are playing with, then that shit doesn't matter. It's very nice to have mahjong friends.

>>17525092
I don't even have regular friends, never mind niche hobby ones.

>your mahjong friend hits on you

>>17525214
That'd be awkward, won't it?

just got pareenchan... too bad tenhou doesnt recognizevit as a valid yakuman.

won that game via nagashi mangan too, talk about luck!

>>17525643
Congratulations, Anon!

Today, in Ippatsumo City

>>17525643
Well, fuck you too

>>17512357
Play mahjong thinking that there are no consequences or downsides to it.

>>17512321
>Chuuren iishanten on the left.
wew

>>17525919
20th October should unofficially be Ippatsumo day.

>>17526114
Ignorance is bliss

Pls how to stop playing in 7447. Why is L0 so scary?

>>17529671
Those stats are fine. L0 is only scary because of losing points and demotions. You will notice a particularly brutal jump in skill when you go to Joukyuu from Ippan because it requires either sticking it out long enough to get the wins or willingness to pay for the client.

>>17529736
Fuck that jump. Got into Joukyuu yesterday and have already lost 4 times in a row. I thought I was ready ;_;

>>17530761
When you're new in joukyuu, each game is essentially fighting for 2nd place followed by one or two lucky games that end with you in 1st place.

>>17530761
Keep playing in there. Eventually, you'll get used to it.

>>17530761
When you get 4th, it's time to stop playing.
Review your replay, identify your mistakes, learn from them and try again the next day.
if you think you had the most perfect, flawless play in the world yet still got 4th, post it and let everyone take a look.

This is of course assuming you have basic tile efficiency and strategy. Read the mahjong book yet anon?

Knowing calls from toimen and shimocha, would you keep that hatsu until the end or push your hand and chase that 3-han hand?
Eventually shimocha ron'd kamicha, haku honitsu.

>>17535924
I'd drop the hatsu but I'm probably overaggressive.

>>17535924
Keep the hatsu, throw 6s and see how it goes. If I get a manzu before tenpai, ori.

>>17535924
There's a lot of contradicting factors. You know where a lot of the dora are. But you also are pretty unlikely to catch 2nd or 1st and might very well get caught by 4th. I'd probably push and try to keep dealer, especially because you can still call to get into tenpai for tanyao 2 dora.

>>17535924
You should've tossed the hatsu a LONG time ago, but at minimum the previous turn to keep the 68s shape. The hand will go nowhere until it's gone. It's incredibly hard to betaori with a tanyao hand anyway, although those 2p will likely be safe from everyone but kamicha.

>>17536420
>You should've tossed the hatsu a LONG time ago
Anon, that's his tsumo

>>17536453
Lone honor tiles are supposed to be tossed almost immediately. Unless you were being ridiculously optimistic about Ryuuiisou the hatsu should've come out no later than turn 6 (and probably 3) with that board.

>>17536545
It's ok anon.
Everyone makes mistakes.

>>17535924
Drop the hatsu, doesn't look dangerous to me. And then get ron'd on like always

>>17536545
Anon, he just drew the hatsu. Like, just on that turn. That's the whole point.

To call or not to call?

>>17539728
Might as well call it, I guess

>>17539728
Call, then somehow keep that 3m.

>>17539728
That's 5800 (or 6000) that you're looking at. So yes, call it.

>>17535924
which game is that?

>>17540848
Tenhou client.

>>17540851
wait are there any advantages to using the tenhou client besides eye candy?

>>17540854
Custom BGM and sound effect, background, table, tiles, etc.
Local game file logging.
Manual tile arrangement.
Better post-game review with revealed tile wall and tsumogiri indicator.
Detailed game analysis.

Now that Tenhou is available in Google Play, you can buy premium on your account then use that ID on the client.

>>17540866
my text always looks like this though, why is that?

>>17540906
Switch locale. Look up locale emulator or something and set to JP.

>>17540914
thanks it worked, now just to somehow get around my antivirus for the injector

>>17541089
You're gonna have to whitelist it. It's a pain in the ass otherwise.

>>17540854
I think the html5 browser client can do most things the standalone client can.
You can set a custom background, arrange tiles manually, open the walls during a replay and highlight everyone's waiting tiles. Also, you can select whether or not you want to call using a red 5. The only downside to the html5 client is that the replay backup function doesn't let you copy out the date and player names; you can only copy out the replay link. If not for that I'd use the html5 client.
I don't use the standalone client so I don't know what it has that the browser doesn't. Probably >>17540866's >detailed game analysis. No idea what that is though. Maybe she could elaborate?

>>17541378
I didn't know Tenhou now has HTML5 option, not just Flash.
>detailed game analysis
There's a tool on client that reads up your saved game logs and presents you interesting tidbits like pic related. I think there's also some 3rd party tools that do the same job, but I forgot where.

>>17541425
Those stats look neat. I wonder how one would use it effectively though.
>3rd party tools
I know of tenhou-log.
You feed in a replay and it dumps hands won, their yaku, the winning tile, the point value etc as well as the tsumo giri of every turn. If you have a stash of replays and can parse the output, you could generate weirder stats like "average hand value per seat wind" or "tile most frequently won with".
The data is quite raw though so it will take a bit of effort to make sense of it.

>>17540854
Sexy wall reading, so that you can see your life's regrets.

No need to pay to have access to this feature at that.

>>17541710
Yeah, it enters 'reading into it too much' territory. I myself rarely use this, I use client mostly because of local file logging.

August is pretty much ending. Post your shitty stats.

>>17543570
>2.62 average
How did you manage to drop to near middle of 4 dan again? I thought you were getting ready to move up a couple months ago.

>>17543570
How does it feel to have played thousands of games and yet have your placings almost perfectly cancel out, showing that your placement in a given round is no more skill based than the throw of a die?

>>17545067
There's lots of skill involved in throwing dice.

>>17543570
Here's mine. I had been doing quite bad but switched back to ippan and have actually started winning again.

I just generated a graph of my rating from when I started tracking my replays to today.

Will I ever recover?

>>17546770
Probably not. I recommend making a new account.

>>17546770
No, but it doesn't matter until you can hit 4 dan. Once you get to 3 dan you can consider a new account to push Tokujou, but where you are now it really makes no difference.

>>17545038
Reality kicked in.

>>17546770
Say, how did you generate that graph? Was the data acquired from your replay logs? Or was it manual?

When is Tenhou supposed to be back up?

>>17543570
Started out the month terribly. I think I dropped to 810/2000 at one point. I will probably have more games by the end of the month, so it could go up or down from here.

>>17548154
>I think I dropped to 810/2000
820/2000

>>17547697
Yeah that's what I was thinking, that if I made a new account I would probably just dig myself into the same hole. I'll take your advice then.
>>17547853
mjlog files + tenhou-log can produce rating per game
then dump it into an excel spreadsheet to create the graph

>>17548869
FYI you can generate R graphs in LogAna which comes with the Windows client.

what is this and how do I get out of this?

>>17550693
Assuming you're using that hack, restart and go back to normal lobby without it.

>>17550707
thanks anon it worked

2:0

Just a quick heads-up. If you queuing in a lobby, make sure you keep it on watch in case the match starts.

3:0

Why can't I enter any lobby since 2 weeks ago? I'm stuck at 98% loading every time.

>>17551138
Try a different browser, different internet or different account

One more, 3:0.

Ded like Washizu.

>>17559365
Toki plz

Furikomu distribution chart
Which makes more sense to use?

3:0

>>17560079
Color coded looks best, the second one looks too messy.

I failed at this haneman tanki and it's killing me.
WWYD

>>17564823
2p

>>17564823
you discarded 2p and the 4th one came out? Discarding west would be a massive mistake here.

>>17564823
both sha and 2pin are safe vs that riichi, and both have the same number visible. they're faily even but 2p is a lot more likely to be used in another player's meld while sha is going to be useless in any hand that isn't mirroring your wait (or kokushi)

>>17564823
2p, it just passed after all

>>17564823
2p is 100% safe

>>17564823
What the hell is wrong here?

>>17564842
>>17564857
>>17564894
>>17564913
>>17565010

>>17565059
I'm just grieving over my dead haneman.
I played the best possible tile to reach the best possible wait just like everyone else would. Yet, I can't help but die on the inside when things like this happen.

>>17565080
its okay, not all of us can feel the FLOW anon

>>17565080
You have so little time to think and have to such much to process when playing mahjong. Every second thinking about this shit is a second spent not thinking about stuff you can control.

>>17565101
I know it doesn't help to look in hindsight so I wanted to confirm that among the things I could control, whether I made the right choice. Knowing that there are others who would throw the 2p as well is good enough for me.

So I'm retarded and just found out bakabt went private and it's been that way for awhile.

Where can I get a Legendary Gambler Tetsuya torrent?

>>17565142
n̶y̶a̶a̶ pantsu looks like it has raws, AB has 480p hardsubs.

3:0

>>17566456
>it's another 'queuing while AFK-ing' episode

Chii here is what Cirno would do. So, I decided to be baka. Hand devalue for no good reason.

http://tenhou.net/0/?log=2017090112gm-0029-0000-27f1a4c3&tw=3

>>17569353
so i told kyuu to chi for literally no reason at all and he actually did it the absolute mad man

Is there a term I can use to search for this style of tile? I really like backs and this is the only one I've ever really seen in person or online despite being featured in every anime, but its unfortunately its got these alphanumeric engravings.

>>17577486
are you referring to Japanese tilesets? most don't have letters and numerals on them. as far as color styles are concerned, it would be on a set to set basis.

https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B003UU129U/ref=mp_s_a_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1504473421&sr=8-1&pi=AC_SX236_SY340_FMwebp_QL65&keywords=riichi+mahjong+set&dpPl=1&dpID=51Df-NoBixL&ref=plSrch

>>17577538
Specifically I'm looking for this style of tile back emulating bamboo wood. I actually have a number of Japanese sets but it seems every modern tile flushes the colored porcelain with the front. The tiles on the left are actually all porcelain still its just molded to look like notched wood.

>>17577602
Tiles like theses anon?
I own a set like this myself but they're of a Chinese variant.

>>17577615
Yes that's it!
Do you have any information on the brand or where you acquired it?

>>17577637
Unfortunately I bought these second hand but I'll try to contact the original owner

>>17577643
Cheers mate

I got to 0 points for the second time

Since there's talk about mahjong tiles, how do you keep those tile in good condition? My set still doesn't have any chipped tiles luckily, but I have some stain that's hard to remove.

>when you only won one round in a game
>but it's a win on S4 that bumped your placement from last to first

>>17579846
How big?

>tfw other players think you're better than you really are and don't want to be seated at your table

it's their mistake, but it's still a good ego boost

5+2+1+0 = 8戦

Hot start this month. 7 consecutive games of 1st and 2nd. Doubt this is gonna last long.

>>17579413
Own a Junk Mat or some other playing surface. Shuffling and moving the tiles around on a hard surface is a fast way to ruining them. A lack of railing increases the number instances of dropped tiles.

>>17580424
Just enough. I know riichi stick and all, but still.

>>17579413
>Since there's talk about mahjong tiles, how do you keep those tile in good condition?
By not using them

Do you remember your first yakuman?

http://tenhou.net/0/?L7447 2:0

>>17580994
we all do.

Daisushii in my case

>>17580994
Suuankou as a NoName account during a L0 game.

>>17580994
Kazoe as unregistered in L0

>>17580994
I got a shousushii on my first registered game in L0

>>17580994
I just barely broke my yakuman virginity with a Kokushi. It was pretty funny, because I was behind and had a shit hand and I just got really aggressive about throwing out non-kokushi tiles to spite the mahjong goddess of luck.

Apparently, the mahjong goddess of luck is a submissive who likes being abused.

>>17579413
Light alcohol and never play on a hard surface. I actually recently made my own table with some really nice felt that's really wonderful.

>>17582089
if you spite the godess, you will pay. watch it

>>17580994
I remember all of my yakuman.

>>17581399
That doesn't count, faggot.

>>17580994
Kokushi. I'm pretty sure it was Kokushi my first 3 times. Other than it, I've only gotten suuankou, daisangen tsuuiisou and shousuushii.

>>17580994
against you niggers

>>17584296
>>17581399
>scoring one as NoName

That's a total waste.

New chapter is up lads. We're fishing big this time.

>>17585201
What was up with the Homer jansou? I don't get what's wrong with playing there.

>>17585447
I guess it's just like houou player roaming in an upper dan lobby.

>>17585447
>>17585454
The line Uncle Sanda says about there being "seasons" seem to indicate to me that the cast of players in there change depending on the time of year. I think that currently, it's spring, so it's nice and easy. I think summer and fall will go by mostly the same, and winter will be extra cold because only one tiger will show up there to eat up anyone who walks in. I'm going to guess that Homer is going to be the last one conquered and the hardest one period.

Where can I play mahjong gambling in Japan? And will they let a gaijin play?
I hope they won't make fun of me

>>17586039
as always, the answer is "depends".

mahjong isn't considered something gaijin are into so you realistically wont find any English parlors. Your best bet is to have a player introduce you. You'll need to know that parlor's in-house rules and you will also need to be able to count your own scores.

aside from that, you'd probably be welcomed as a novelty, like a saudi at a texas rodeo.

>>17586128
>like a saudi at a texas rodeo.
Unless you're full on Muslim-wear, you'd probably just get treated like a tourist Mexican.

>When the math works out right and you just bust out the guy in last while just slipping by to first

kek

>>17588968
what's her special ability?

>>17588976
Her hands tend to build vertically.

>>17588968
Whasit from?

>>17588968
Goddamnit, Mako, you stop that bullshit, and you stop it right now

>>17589024
Achiga-hen side-A BD vol. 7&8

>>17588968
top tier mind games

>>17525110
I know this feeling very well. The tiles are my only friends and they hate me.

>>17543570
Hot start this September, as I took my first 4th of the month just a few minutes ago. I await my impending doom.

For September, I limit myself to 2 ranked games a day.

>>17589246
I'm having a great month too, which is worrying. in july I was one 2nd place away from ranking up. by august I had fallen all the way to 35 points. now I'm back up to positive territory.

what a game!

>>17589274
9+2+1+2 = 14戦

I am really scared now.

>start games as dealer
>south gets a chiihou

welp...

Are there any VR mahjong games?

>>17598056
https://www.oculus.com/experiences/rift/1445682265455753/

Always happy to help.

>get first place
>get mangan tenpai
>get disconnection error
>get fixed after refresh
>deal into to mangan
>no problem
>get tenpai
>get disconnection error
>can´t fix it
>a minute later
>get logged again
>can´t rejoin the game
>I know it hasn´t end
>15 minutes later
>I lost with negative points

>>17598172
>disconnection error
The only time this happens to me is when my laptop occasionally d/cs from the wi-fi. I've never had the Tenhou site itself shit on me.

When people say disconnection error, does it mean only tenhou is affected or is their internet connection failing them?

After reading some mahjong stuff and lurking for a while I can't seem to get in first anymore. Granted I'm not coming in last but I'm way below the .26-.26-.26-.22 I was expecting (which is what I thought I would get at the minimum)

Am I taking the "don't come in last" advice too seriously and too early? I thought I was doing okay until I recently learned that 2nd place doesnt get any points in ippan, and now 2nd and 3rd feel like losing.

>>17600000
Placement in ippan is 1st or nothing so your play style should be different until you get to Joukyuu.

Also nice digits.

>>17600000
There's also no penalty for last until you rank up a bit so you should be going on the attack almost all the time.

>>17600000
>2nd and 3rd feel like losing
Exactly.
Keep shooting for first until you're out of ippan. Keep in mind though, your rating does get affected by your ippan plays so don't go too crazy. Take a look at >>17546770
Ganbare anon!

Nice quints.

>>17600000
You've only played thirty games, your stats are basically entirely meaningless. Play ten times that and then see how they look.

>>17600000
try first and foremost to learn how to play well, than you can give a damn about placement when you hit 4d hell you can do a new account

Does anyone have a screenshot of that Saki girl sitting there with her 4 calls and 1 tile wait?

>>17606188

>>17577637
>>17577615
>>17577602
The Nintendo mahjong set has backs emulating bamboo on it. Pretty good quality set I'd say, especially for a first.

Yes, Nintendo still makes plain mahjong sets in Japan, google it.

>>17606816
Thanks

>>17606301
Try try again.

Threadly reminder that Akagi ends in 7 chapters

>riichi a chiitoi hand
>immediately regret it, I really should have stayed dama
>ippatsu w/6dora dealer sanbaiman

sometimes going with your gut is the way to go

WWYD?

>>17617010
toss 2m but stay dama.

while you probably dealt into some bullshit hand, the fact that it's safe vs kamicha and simocha, and that one passed two turns ago makes it pretty ideal in a normal situation.

>>17617010
Why is this even a question? The 2m is the only option.

Sure, you'll probably post the toimen winning off of it but that doesn't mean it isn't objectively the best tile.

>>17617048
>>17617051
I had the same line of thought, I was sure the kamicha was in tenpai for 5-8m, played it safe and dealt the 2m. Could have had a haneman if I shot for the riichi sanshoku.

Then again, maybe the kamicha would have called kan on the 8m and changed the draw order. Still managed to win the game in the end, though, so I'm not too upset.

>>17617072

Sure, dealing the 2m puts you into furiten but no one is going to deal into your closed sanshoku. It's both a key tile and the dora indicator so it's not going to come out.
Since the only way you're going to win is to tsumo, you might as well take the 3-sided wait.

Riichi menpin dora on a 3-sided wait. Ura or ippatsu and it's mangan. Even if you don't win, scaring everyone with a dealer riichi would mean 2000 points and a renchan.
Why didn't you riichi?

>>17594512
9+4+2+6 = 21戦

Now, it looks more like familiar territory

>>17619366
>Why didn't you riichi?
Why would he? With so few tiles left, the chances of his tsumo are very low and not riichiing leaves his options open for if he draws a dangerous tile. He's not in last place or anything and it's early in the game. All he needs to go for is tenpai.

>don't deal in for what seems like days
>subconsciously begin to think I'll never deal in
>make really cocky discards and get dickslapped into last
>repeat

>>17620994
are you me?

>>17620363
But anon.
Delicious free sex!

>>17620994
For me it's the other way around. When no one deals in or calls and my hand isn't big enough I just fold.

as god ordained. 4th dan boyz

>>17624466
Congratulations. Are you in Tokujou or 4 dan hell now?

That isn't a Rising Sun, it's just a regular kokushi.

>>17624874
t.east player

What does this page?

http://tenhou.net/stat/rand/

>2017
>can't read Japanese

Yes I am a failure

>>17628735
Public release explaining how the walls are generated.

>>17600266
>>17600289
>>17600409
>>17601021
>>17601479
Thanks for the advice. Played a lot more aggressively and got (mostly) rewarded.

>>17617010
Riichi, toss the 8m. Go for them big bucks.Still early so getting a big hand would be ideal.

>>17617010
Damaten for 7700. Tsumo grants 11900.

>>17601479
>4d hell you can do a new account
Don't be a pussy.

Post 'em. It's the first time in a loong while since I've been doing this well.

Haven't launched Tengokuhai in months until today. Did they get rid of single player and the ability to play vertically rather than horizontally?

>>17633409
Holy shit, you're right. What a shame, I had good games in singleplayer mode, especially that dragon killing part.
Now it just looks like average mahjong online games.

And now a new one.

>>17525214

>your mahjong friend comes out and tells you he's trans

Why is this my first ever post on /jp/

>>17635374
>playing with Touhou cosplayers

>>17635374
Dude, I'm legit sorry for your loss. I don't have a trans friend, but my best friend does, and ever since he became a she, everything we do together has been radically poisoned. Only real advice I can give you is just cut out. The sooner the better. Just don't make it obvious, just kinda "lose" contact with him. You don't want him starting up a shitstorm.

>>17636125
let's not get this fucking debate started here. I don't care if you're a faggot or a yakuza, as long as you can play good mahjong that's all that matters at the table.

>>17636145
If you're not the poster I'm replying to: Shut up.
If you are the poster I'm replying to: Buddy, man, I have no sympathy for how shitty it's gonna get for you if that's the attitude you take.

>>17636225
>asks to move on and keep it to mahjong
>double down on the /pol/ shit instead

welp, this thread is going places

>>17636225
>>17636243
Here's the deal about trans. mahjong players, especially for riichi.

Let them play. The game in the West needs as many players as possible in order to grow. Or else, the game just flat out dies because no one is playing it anymore.

>>17636262
This.

>>17636262
>We should let shitty people in because we are literally THAT desperate
We are not that desperate.

>>17634424
Any other decent single player apps on android?

>>17636262
If they truly cared about the game they wouldn't make a big deal about being trans. Which is literally impossible for 99% of them.

>>17636279
You have no fucking clue.

>>17636377
I have plenty of clues because I actually have a decent social circle. I taught my real life friends how to play and we play about once a week in person. You shouldn't put up with people who treat you poorly just because they know how to play a game, just go out there and make friends.

>>17635033

>>17635033
Lucky bastard.

But for real though, mahjong is the best game I've ever played. Nothing compares to the thrill of planning a grand comeback and you actually pull it off.

>>17636309
They said in Tengokuhai's page Google Play that singleplayer mode is in development. Hopefully it will go back.
You can grab generic riichi mahjong games in Google Play, pretty much it's all same, just don't mistake it with chinks mahjong. If you want more interesting gameplay, that Kindai Mahjong game has character mode with rigged tables.

>>17636309
They are mostly the same, I use Maujong but just make sure to search Riichi Mahjong or you will find 8 million Mahjong Solitaire and a bunch of Chinese Mahjong.

>>17637854
Ever tried that furry mahjong? I mean, kemono mahjong.

>>17637874
Probably going to go with Maujong. I see tenho-g recommended online but I don't see the appeal.
>>17637880
Fuck furries

>>17640386
Tenho-g has a pretty nice point calculation practice mode.

>>17580994
good ole pairon

What sort of learning progression should I be looking at? I've learned how to play, and I've been playing a lot to get the feel for actually completing hands and trying to memorize the different yaku so I can decide what I want to shoot for with my opening hand. I'm still in the process of getting used to all of this, but I still feel like I should be learning new things as well. Reading discards would be one example, but I don't know how much of a priority that is to someone relatively new to the game. Are there any general steps I should take when trying to become better at the game?

>>17641918
1) Learn the yaku
2) Read up on tile efficiency (pastebin has a bunch)
3) Learn defense and how to read ponds

You are still probably learning tile efficiency. By itself proper efficiency should get you to 2-3dan and learning proper defense can get you to Tokujou.

>>17641955
Thanks man.

Just a few more weeks till the WRC

>>17641918
>Are there any general steps I should take when trying to become better at the game?
Don't bother with ranking just yet. Just play to your hearts desire and enjoy this "newbie bliss".

Once you ever start ranking, be prepared for hell.

>>17644559
The what now?

>>17644622
Worst Riichi Contest.
It's a contest to get into the worst possible riichi shape.

>>17644735
What, you mean the one in vegas? I thought that was happening in mid-october?

haven't played in a few days, hopefully I'll be in shape for tonight

Two games a day. This is so-called progress so far.

Too many 4ths. Fuck this shit.

http://tenhou.net/0/?L7447

Go faggots.

WWYD?

>>17651893
west

>>17651893
South. They want the reset so clearly I shouldn't give it to them.

>>17651893
South

>>17650202
No, fuck you

>>17651893
I want to say South since at least Kamicha has a shit hand but damn is your hand shit as well. I get the logic behind kyuushuukyuuhai but I never understood why suufonrenda justified a reset.

West.

>>17651901
>>17651938
>>17651992
>>17652073
>>17652511
my hand was shit and it seems everyone else's was too. That said, I believe e1 is the most dangerous and uncertain round in a game that often shapes the outcome. I wasn't confident in this hand and chose to roll the die again.

Paid off, got 1st.

How do you even memorize all this terminology? I've tried starting tile efficiency and it's a flood of terms with 0 context.

>>17652683
you'll find yourself using Japanese terminology organically as they are much more to the point than English translations. in the meantime it's fine to stick to english

>>17652683
>How do you even memorize all this terminology?
Once you start using them, you'll be glad when you do. Because some of the terminology encapsulates game concepts.

>>17651938
>They want the reset so clearly I shouldn't give it to them.
This shit is almost never true. People just throw it because they know it's the least useful tile in their hands, nobody actually expects it could end in a draw, except maybe, MAYBE, the third guy who dealt it.

Why aren't any of you in 7447?

I want to have fun!

>>17653192
2.0 old friend, even if it's almost 6 am here

>>17653204
3.0

2:0

mahjong is fun when this happens

Is the tenhou app for Android any good?
Will I have to sign up for a tenhou account too?

3.7 stars seems pretty low for me.

>>17654022
its works fine you can play as a NoName if you dont wanna use your ID

>>17654025
I wouldn't mind signing up for an account and joining the grind but I am incapable of reading moonrunes at the moment. If it Just Works(TM), and playing as a noname is allowed, then that's fine with me.

Asking mainly because I don't have Flash installed on any of my computers anymore but the non-Flash web client still sucks.

>>17654030
You could also use the tenhou client for windows. Theres a crack for it here http://minomino.org/tenhou/

>>17654042
Ehh, was looking for a phone client so that I could play at work when nobody's looking.

The phone client works fine it seems but I can't change lobbies to 7447 so, sucks for me. Thanks for trying. Guess I'll have to suck it up with the html client.

>>17654094
You can switch lobbies with the app. You just need to get to this screen.
Then tap the button with the moon runes
>ロビ
Then a pop-up will appear again tap the moon rune
>その
Then you can enter the lobby #

>>17654115
This is all I see on the home screen.

>>17654137
Tap the
>IDで-きから
You have to enter an ID.
You can use this ID to bypass that screen.
>ID60116B56-BBnB8L8M
Its actually an account I dont use so its fine.
You after bypassing that screen change lobbies and login as a NoName

>>17654166
I think I got in, thanks.

>>17654042
Jesus, it's so quick and flashy. Time to figure out how make things worse by changing the BGM and backdrops.

Are there any stats on the active Tenhou userbase? Has it been declining or growing?

>>17654816
http://tenhou.net/ranking.html
Interestingly, the game number's trend is steadily declining. Last month, 2 years ago there were 1m games, but from last year, there were only 950k.
Maybe that's because of more alternatives like Sega MJ.

2:0

>>17658500
3:0

>4 kans hand is a thing
>Game comes to a draw if 4 kans are made

So do you need to complete your pair with the rinshan draw ? Sounds fucking impossible

>>17659326
Read more attentively anon. If all the kans are made by one player then the game continues.

>>17659360
Ah, I guess that explains it, thanks.

>>17653192
>Wants to have fun
>So he wants to play Mahjong

...M?

How do I akagi

>>17661418
get a writer that stages all your matches

>>17661418
Have a goal in mind and move ahead.
What I sometimes do is chi some chun chan tiles while having a shanpon of a yakuhai. Get some terminal dora and you're set for a mind fuck win, no one will see it coming.
Unless you meant akagi as in "play good" then I can't help you there.

>>17661418
Get a very sharp nose job.

>>17661418
kill yourself

Anyone seen the new training mode on Tenhou?
The free mode is basically WWYD within the tenhou client with analysis by people like fukuchi. What I'm curious about though is ASAPIN's questions. Anyone with premium can go take a look?

>>17661554
Descend into darkness? I like it, Anon.

>>17661418
Git gud

2:0

http://tenhou.net/0/?log=2017092112gm-0029-0000-cf398bfd&tw=1&ts=3

The smoothest suuankou that I've ever pulled.

Universe. Get your punk ass back in here!

Mahjong feels overwhelming, like playing anywhere near optimally requires way too many parallel considerations and I can't keep up with the speed. Does this change or am I stupid?

>>17662248
Old habits die hard, it seems. Sorry.

2.0

Why aren't there any hentai mahjong games translated into English

>>17662372
In essential, it's basically just a number-matching game. Arrange 14 tiles into eligible pattern by switching in-and-out one tile at a time.
Considering that, you can make shortcut deductions to ease up some burdens, for example.
>Why is there no bamboo tiles in his discard pool? Is he hogging them?
>Why did he call non-yakuhai tile or make terminal meld? Maybe he already has eligible yaku?
>He discarded tile 7 that early, maybe 8 or 9 is safe?
>He discarded 2 and then 7, probably I should keep 3 and 6.
Still, there are tons of information and assumptions that you have to digest in short time. Get more experience, read some mahjong tips, but most importantly, stay sharp in a game.

>>17662372
>I can't keep up with the speed. Does this change or am I stupid?
Just play more. Eventually, you'll become more accustomed with the game's decision making processes. Of course, this requires a bit of learning too.

>>17661995
On only the sixth draw as well. There goes your luck for the rest of the year.

>>17661995
>those last 4 draws
Are you a demon ?

I know Hong Kong Mahjong has a tournament scene, but luck seems like enough of a factor that you would need very long sets to determine the best players. Is there enough winning consistency that the same players place high repeatedly?

>>17662975
I have the WRC in two weeks. I'm fucked!

>>17663377
I wish. We all want to be demons!

Well, that was a terrible game, but I'm a terrible player.

>>17666893
you're just learning. this game will make you get down on yourself a bunch, so it's important to always keep perspective. the best way to do aois reviewing your games and asking yourself if you acted wosely and just got unlucky, or if there might have been a better way.

>>17666893
It's OK. When I first got into Tenhou, it took me like 16 games to finally win one.

>>17661995
I wish I had it easy. Fishing out that last tile was nerve wrecking.
http://tenhou.net/0/?log=2017092219gm-0089-0000-40da6d2b&tw=1

would you say this stats are good?

>>17668751
Yes those are fine. You look to be headed to Tokujou without any major problems.

>>17668955
you're 4th and need the win. risk it and kan.

Best luck for me in a while. Still only finished second overall but that's still way better than I should of done given how poorly I played the rest of the game.

>>17667892
Yea, I had a bunch of suuankou like that. It was like: "C'mon.. where's my tile!?"

Of course, when it does come, "Yes!"

One of the funniest cases of "muh tenpai", that I've ever seen.

Two points: He had chun ankou and dropped one to defend, which is fine. Then he gets this kanchan for karaten 6-sou and decides to try to keep it.

RIP

I have an old Macintosh, and I play a game called Gunshy on it, which is a Mahjong Solitaire game. Check out those tiles!

I play Mahjong Solitaire on my old Macintosh. Check out those tiles!

>>17668955
Kan, without a doubt. Chankan is a myth, that only happens once a year.

>3rd place
>go against a dealer riichi in s4 with a weak closed wait
>tsumo and win the game

>>17669351
Kill it with fire!!!!

>>17668955
Gee... you have toimen likely pushing honitsu/chinitsu. And a dora wait is generally likely near the end.

A work around solution: Break 3-5 pin and hope to get tenpai around the 8-man.

>>17669734
Wait a minute, toimen can't hit you with it.

So, now let's see what kamicha/shimocha might be doing. I can see one of them going 5-8.

>>17668978
>>17669481
>>17669734
Chankan da.
but wait, it gets worse!

>>17670362
That's one hell of cockblock.

>>17670362
>>17670382
I had this happen a year ago.

>one win away from ranking up
>get overzealous
>two wins away from ranking up

last time this happened I went on a tilt that took me all the way down to 30 points. I'm amazed I made it back up from there but now im paranoid I'll freefall again

I think I'm going a little crazy. I'm having a string of 3rd and 4th place games and I think I'm doing something wrong.
Can someone take a look at my replay? It's the rest of the chankan game.
http://tenhou.net/0/?log=2017092301gm-0089-0000-57c5c959&tw=0

>>17674604

East 3: Just bad luck, from what I saw.
South 1: I wouldn't have been so quick to discard the red 5p, even if it was to set a possible suji trap. And I'm not going to say you shouldn't have pushed, but you were iishanten with a lousy wait.
South 2: I would've kept the 55667p. You'd be left in better shape for hon'itsu + shousangen if you drew more pinzu or another hatsu.

>>17674604
E1 don't discard dragons or turn winds for no reasons (this goes for every hand after that) you are just gving free yakus away, also there was no reason to break 12344man
E2 no reason to break a good wait on 34pin. You were lucky to get so close to honitsu with that hand
E3 wait at least the second Chun to be discarded, you could have got chosangen or even daisangen tanpai.
E4 you could have tried to go Itsuu, then you should have discarded 5man(not dora) and kept the 3sou. Unlucky for the chunkan, but the whole hand wasn't well played
S1 you should have changed you intention from chitoitsu to toi toi or a quick hand to get a honba. 9pin or 2pin were safer
s2: I'm conflicted: discarding a dora in this situation is wrong, but a chance for a fast daisangen or chosangen may be better. Still keeping it for a chitoitsu or honitsu was probably the best choise here: so discard 123man right away.
S3 nothing to say, you did good
S4 DONT TROW DORA. 20000 may seems a lot, but a 12.000 ron can fix, so you only needed 6han to have chance, so don't waste any of them

>>17674695
e3: >bad luck
That's what I was thinking, was it really? I don't pay attention to whether people tsumogiri but if someone I suspect is in tenpai switches out their wait, is the discarded suit definitely more dangerous? Ignoring switching tanki waits of course.
>>17674813
>E1 don't discard dragons or turn winds for no reasons
For me my train of thought rather is that if I throw them away now, there's a lower chance of opponents being able to use them. However since it's a problem you identified, I'll give it a shot and see how it goes. I'm guessing when I start throwing honours I start from otakaze as well?
>E4 you could have tried to go Itsuu
I thought that since there were 2 ryanmen waits I would be better off aiming for tanyao dora2 rather than an itsuu which might fail.
Why do you suggest discarding 5m? Isn't 8s less useful?
>S1 switch from chiitoitsu to toitoi
but 2chun are already out. Isn't it pretty bad to go for toi toi with a dead pair? Or do you mean the switch should have happened earlier?
>S4 DONT TROW DORA
I didn't get dora, you probably meant yakuhai right? It's a bit tight to pull out 6han but yeah, I guess you're right.

>>17674604
Your biggest problem, bar none, is that you keep going back in shanten. Stop doing that and your tile efficiency will improve by leaps and bounds.

>>17675082
>S4 DONT TROW DORA
I didn't get dora, you probably meant yakuhai right? It's a bit tight to pull out 6han but yeah, I guess you're right.

oh, you are right, seems like I was half asleep there

other than that
>For me my train of thought rather is that if I throw them away now, there's a lower chance of opponents being able to use them
This can only be a good a idea IF you are already close to tenpai or you hand is way closer to tanyao
>>E4
the problem in that is that you still have 3-8sou, which are useless, while having 6 out of 9 for itsu, especially since you can simply make 2 call and still go in tenpai with an open end if need with that hand
>Why do you suggest discarding 5m?
because pon is with any 5 is kinda difficult and if you chi there is a higher possibility to get ronned. But after discarding that you can go to 3s to try a sanshoku
>but 2chun are already out.
and those were you next discards after what i said before. You have 4 genbutsu to try to see if you hand gets better and it's worth risking

>>17675825
Ok I see the genbutsu for the toitoi hand now but I still don't understand how E4 should have went.
>pon 5m
The turning point for itsuu was on turn 7 but at that point I only had 45m. Are we talking about turn 7 or turn 9?

>>17676024
you should have discarded 8sou here

>>17675825
>>17676501
Nice. Thanks for your help!

So I want to start playing mahjong but I'm probably at below noob level
How do I play against real people without embarassing myself

>>17676911
no problem

>>17677479
first of all
http://www.gamedesign.jp/flash/mahjong/mahjong_e.html
then go play in L0 on tenhou

2:0 http://tenhou.net/0/?L7447

>>17521352
Echoing this sentiment

>>17679748
Gamedesign not lewd enough for you?

ded

>>17682345
no, Toki

>>17682345
It hit the bump limit so of course we're toki.

>>17672229
>3 more 4ths

SOUNDS ABOUT RIGHT

>>17683947
Try posting your replay the next thread. After that anon helped me analyse my replay, I topped my next game. I don't think it has a direct relation but I don't think it's a coincidence either.
Even if you don't see immediate improvements, knowing that you are learning and improving will give you peace of mind.

>>17661995
Why can't I hold all these suuankous?

This one wasn't as impressive, but just as fast to tenpai.

>>17679748
Get mame and there's a whole world of lewd arcade mahjong games. In the lady hunter you're basically Batman, so that one is fun. But a lot of people recommend the taisen hot gimmick series.

>>17679748
I liked full ani by Leaf.
Also half of Splushwave games are mahjong ones based on various anime

Rip in peace, big guy

http://tenhou.net/0/?log=2017091312gm-00a9-0000-68b3a190&tw=3&ts=6

Tenhoui plz