/jp/ - Otaku Culture

Have you memorised your Tenhou ID?
http://www.strawpoll.me/13312835

>>17252498
Literally no point in memorizing it. I just took a picture of it

>>17252379
>play mahjong
Why not go on a road trip instead?

>>17252498
No, because I just play NoName instead. I'm not invested enough in stats, nor do I play often enough, to care to register.

>>17253053
Ranked games are frustrating, but they do get more interesting the higher up you go.

>>17253053
Truthfully, mahjong in the first two rooms isn't even really mahjong. :(

>>17253259
hete we go again...

>>17253259
here we go again...

>>17253517
At least for ippan it's really true, though. The sheer number of disconnecting players alone should be enough reason for anyone to want to get out of it. Also most people play so aggressively that many aspects of the game get completely lost like having to judge if calling riichi might make your opponents defend.
Joukyuu is by far the most heterogenous room in terms of players skill. You will have good, interesting matches with 3 decent players as well as garbage games that could also take place in ippan.

>>17253259
80% of my games are in 7447 anyways. Only slightly better though, I guess.

>>17253582
agreed. starting a new account is a pain since your normal measured play gets trashed by morons that deal into windmilling faggots.

by the time you get back to joukyuu you've been infected with bad ippan habbits and have to re-learn everything

>>17253934
>Ippan habits
I'm just breaking into joukyuu but I feel like I was largely unaffected by ippan. Sure people play weird but I don't think ippan should be giving you habits.

>>17254177
here's an example. In ippan you can basically riichi with any crap wait confident that the shitters will deal in. In joukyuu this will backfire

>playing online
>not playing with old ladies irl
Guys pls

>>17254467
>old lesbians

>>17252712
You yanks indeed are lazy

>>17254467
>American mahjong
>deciding to call pon after you drew and saw your next tile
No.

>>17254218
It only backfires in joukyuu because the lobby has a larger amount of people who have been annoyed of dealing in all the time. Sometimes they still fall for silly things. Ex: chiitoitsu + riichi waiting on an honor tile

>>17255333
There is nothing wrong with waiting on an honour tile with riichi + chitoitsu. It's probably the second best for chitoitsu after a suji trap.

>>17255325
>Assuming they're old jewish ladies

Who's to say they aren't Chinese? Don't you want to learn to play Chinese Classic rules? Or Mahjong Competition rules, anon?

>>17255537
Non round wind is by far the best option. Suji trap is second, terminals are 3rd, value honors, 28, 37, and finally 456.

>>17252936
I would love to see Wahaha Adventures as a movie

Month is about to end how has it gone for you?

>>17255817
It was awful.

>>17255817
It was amazing

>>17255817
It was so-so

>>17255817
It was something.

>>17255817
I didn't play at all.

>>17255817
It could have been better.

REEE, HOW DO THEY KNOW MY WINNIGN TILES

>>17256278
A big flaw in digital mindset is that it forgets to tell you that kanchan wait means never winning because everybody is magically forming koutsu or shuntsu with your winning tile.

>>17256278
Deduction

3:0 fite me

>>17256278
Depends. Typically luck but in some cases they can actually tell. Got a replay?

>>17255817
Played 1 game for each day in June. Result posted.

How do you like me now, /jp/?

Games on sale at 90% off.

>>17256660
>slam
Someone here needs to work for Zoo Corporation.

>>17256665
Oh, is that a thing? Cause the company logo that showed up was Zoo. Never played any of their other games though.

>>17256676
Same company. In fact, Pretty Girls Battle is the same game, just repackaged with added characters and graphics.

>>17256660
Please fix the file name anon, I spent like a good minute staring at it wondering why it looked wrong before it clicked. Switch the G and B you fuck.

>>17256724
You're implying I'm not going to delete the photos when I'm done.

So I opened up the other game I got in the package, the one that isn't focused on just school girls. In the options, there's an optional Yakuman called 13 unrelated tiles. I thought this was their head-canon name for a Kokushi.

So I get right into the match, take a look at my tiles, and East to my left goes fucking tsumo. My first game in this fucking game, and the computer gets a tenhou off of a shit as fuck hand.

I am SEETHING right now.

>>17256803
Shiisanpuuta

It looks so utterly disgusting.

I know you're in here, Mr.Horsehead. I've found your thread. You [total]ly won't [wine] or get away this time!

1:0

Didn't catch? Well, WHATEVER! I don't even PLAY Mahjong ANNEWAYS!!

P.S. - I am NOT a robot.

I've been seen! The sun is rising soon...

Back into the forest! Good night slash j p/!

Okay, guess this was it with tenhou for me. This shit can't not be rigged. The bad luck streak I have right now defies all probability. I just checked that out of the last 20 times I called riichi I dealt into an oikake riichi 11 times and won the hand 3 times. Just as icing on the cake the last time, I dealt into an oikake riichi coming 7 discards after my riichi (which was suji trap) with a red 5 ippatsu + ura dora.

>>17257317
If you're playing in ippan... all sorts of shit happen

Defend yourself!

>A: Which tile you'd defend with?
>B: Which tile was actually picked here?
>C: Guess how much was the pain.

>>17257561
A: 7m is safe, 8m and 1p are probably safe. Others are all bad.
B: you probably threw hatsu
C: and dealt into a dealer haneman/baiman because of uradora

>>17257317
Get good

>>17257317
Here's the deal. It only seems rigged because you haven't opened your eyes.

Honestly, go watch legendary gambler tetsuya. Take its lessons to heart. (Not the cheating)

Don't fight to win. Just play smart and your time will come.

>>17257561
If I traced calls correctly, 7m. You probably discarded 7m or hatsu and fell into ippatsu + uradora damage.

>>17257561
A: I'm not sure how the turn order is going on here but 7m
B: 7m
C: Ippatsu chiitoi Dora Dora (ura)

>>17257317
If you regret dealing into a hand because you locked into riichi, it means the gamble you took was an uncalculated risk.
It's fine to be upset when your gambles fail but if you're genuinely this mad, you're doing something wrong. Feel free to ask for help when you're ready.
Git gud famallama.

Also, if 11 out of 20 riichis are getting followed up, my guess is you're in ippan.

>>17257561
Hatsu seems incredibly obvious, that's probably what you dropped and what I would drop. 8p is the other dangerous choice that I'd consider, but feels a bit much for me to risk. Pain is a mangan I'm guessing, enough to knock you into last so you can start S4 from there.

>>17257317
been there friend. I dealt with it in different ways but here's some of the things you can do.

seeing so many of my riichi'd hands get fucked really made me develop an appreciation for dama tenpai. When that free sex button appears you have to fight your raging boner and decide if the wait is good, how much the hand is worth, how risky it seems, and your points relative to other players. if you have a 4han dama, you really dont get much more via riichi unless you get a ton of ura, but you cant rely on ura.

if someone riichi's with a 3sou, im going to avoid that tile's suji and it's ura-suji unless there's evidence that it's safe. so I'll avoid 25sou, 47sou,on the ura suji, and 6 sou in case you laid a trap. if you stay dama you can sneak one in, especially if you're in the lead.

in more general terms, if you feel your luck is shit, get a fuckup account and ride it out. You want to be able to lose, learn, and not tilt.try other mahhjong games.

review your games, look at your decisions and see if it really was the best option. tenhou's tile efficiency calculator is great. Also review what the other players did and see what they did that got them ahead. did they just magically draw their hands or was there some actual play you could learn from?

dont post a replay here until you've reviewed your games and are stumped. you don't need the armchair tenhoui telling you you were a moron for pushing when you should have defended unless you really need to eat the humble pie.

we're all gonna make it brah

>>17257561
This is tricky because the 7m isn't necessarily safe. It depends on whether the 3p was called before or after the riichi.

>>17257391
>>17257632
>>17257917
I have 1922 R, m8s. I think I have a bsaic idea of what is bad luck and what is utterly retarded bullshit outside the realm of normal probability.

>>17257561
A: Depends if 7m was discarded after the riichi. Otherwise 1p. Suji to the dealer, 3 of the 2p are visible and the others are probably after tanyao or are missing the hatsu in your hand.
B: Hatsu
C: Double ron into riichi chitoi and hatsu dora

>>17257561
So what was the answer, faggot?

>When you threw away the suuankou when you needed it most

>>17258756
So if you know how it works, why complain about it?

Legendary Gambler Tetsuya. Completely serious. It's how I got to 2100R before I lost my discipline chasing 7d.

>>17259059
what part of tetsuya is useful? I only saw massive cheating bets and team play

>>17259091
Not him, but I would imagine that it's the philosophy it teaches as opposed to the cheating techniques. What differentiates a true gambler from someone who is merely a fool.

>>17258756
You don't even play irl

>>17257561
>>17257630
>>17257748
>>17257748
>>17257821
>>17257821
>>17258108
>>17258337
>>17258827
>>17258861
And the answer. I would have done the same thing and get rekt.

>>17259603
>That win
Get fucked, mate.

>>17259734
Who are you quoting?

>>17258756
>1922 R
Get good

>>17259091

>>17259091

1: pretty much everything the old yakuza guy at the factory in the beginning says (right for the wrong reasons)
2: the scene where boshu wins the bet at the shrine
3: "who says you have to win?"
4: luck isn't really luck, just being able to maximize opportunities

there are other bits of wisdom, but that's off the top of my head

I got my shit completely fucked last month and then this month, the first game I have someone get an ippatsu suuankou selfdraw on my dealer round and get 4th and the second I completely crush everyone. What the fuck is going on?

>>17260429
You are currently cursed.

>>17260506
When does it go away?

>>17260514
Next month

>>17260514
Next lifetime

>>17260514
Next match

>it's one of those intense nail biting games that drags into the west round with every fighter just one punch away from victory
>you don't even care if you win, you're having too much fun

>win with a final score of 39000

I love this game sometimes

>>17260770
*30900

>>17260773
>>17260770

>>17259091
Here's a really good piece of mahjong advice. It's timeless.

>>17260976
You will hear it again

>>17260978
and again

>>17260976
>>17260978
>>17260984

Fun fact: American Mahjong became so fucked up specifically because everyone who was playing at the time would consistently only go after Yakuman, so they changed the scoring system to the use of the cards.

>>17261101
>women

http://tenhou.net/0/?log=2017070119gm-0029-0000-851dbbeb&tw=0

I messed up on the first hand, fearing 7-man. So I drop the outside tile 2-pin to go down to 1-shanten and hoping to get back to tenpai on the last 2-3 turns.

Dora tanki on East 4 bailed my ass out.

>>17261585
I hate those games, although getting 2 houou is just brutal.

Sup guys, I'm trying to learn how to play mahjong.

Can anyone explain why this isn't a win?

As far as I understand, you're supposed to call tsumo when you win on your own draw, but it doesn't seem to let me.

>>17261953
You can't have sequences of dragons or winds, for starters

Your hand needs a yaku to win.

>>17261983
Oh, that makes sense Thank you very much.

Though doesn't having 4 regular sets of anything and a pair automatically make a 'no yaku' yaku?

>>17261953
in order to win you need a valid hand consisting of four melds and a pair (with three notable exceptions but lets not get into the minutia) and you also need at least one multiplier (aka "yaku")

your hand's biggest issue is that it isnt legal. dragons and winds cannot be mixed with each other to form a meld so the RGW dragon block doesn't count.

if you had had 3 green dragons instead, your hand would have been legal and the yaku requirement also met.

more on yaku: as you learn to play you'll hit situations where your legal cannot win. memorize yaku to avoid this.

good luck and have fun!

>>17260773
Nothig feels quite as good as winning a game in west 4-1 with 26400 points

Wish I had the screenshot still. That game was bonkers

>>17261993
>>17261983
>>17261953
So I take it this hand doesn't have a yaku, then.

>>17262010
correct. a set of dragons will always give you one yaku, but winds must either match the round or your seat to be considered a yaku. in your image you called the west wind while in the south round and your seat also being south so it had no value.

the only wind that would be ok to call in this particular situation would be the south wind as it would give you two multiplers (round and seat wind)

>>17261986
>>>17261983

>Though doesn't having 4 regular sets of anything and a pair automatically make a 'no yaku' yaku?

only in some chinese rulesets. Riichi doesn't have that particular one.

http://arcturus.su/wiki/List_of_yaku

>>17262042
>>17262065
You guys are the best, thank you. I was using this list of yaku that I could have sworn said riichi. I'll have to do some more googling.

>>17262094
It's in the pastebin but it's worth repeating.
Start at:
http://www.gamedesign.jp/flash/mahjong/mahjong_e.html
It's in English, there's no timer, and all the yaku are listed with their names when you scroll down.

>>17262226
Thanks anon, I'll start practicing with this.

My goal is to eventually be able to beat the strip mahjong arcade games when I go to Nakano.

>>17262498
>rongasm

>game ends when I bust out
>never dealt in, only got tsumo'd to hell

>>17260976
>>17260978
>>17260984
You know, that would probably be much better advice if the characters saying them didn't all immediately lose out to a much, much flashier style. The words are good, but the message is muddled.

I think might only be the second chankan I've ever had, and the first was on a kokushi.

>>17264059
>the first was on a kokushi.
http://tenhou.net/0/?log=2015110815gm-0089-0000-540780b6&tw=0&ts=2

Kek

I'm starting to win matches of mahjong! The different yaku actually make this game very dynamic and interesting. I love the variety of playstyles and winning hands.

Now why can't I get the girls to strip after beating them?

>>17265534
You can't get cute girls to strip in tenhou.
Watcha playing? Super real mahjong?

>>17265667
Super Real Mahjong on NGPC.

I figured it out though.

>Manga/Anime/Drama
>They start playing Mahjong at a parlor
>Automatic table
>That's expected
>They start playing Mahjong at a yakuza's house
>Automatic table
>That's fine. Makes sense
>They start playing Mahjong at a back alley area with thugs
>Automatic table
>Uuuuh, okay, I can handle that
>They start playing Mahjong at a school club
>Automatic table
>Wait...hold on...
>They start playing Mahjong at someone literal kid's house
>Automatic table
>I have some objections...
>They start playing Mahjong in the park
>Automatic table
>Fuck off!!
>They start playing mahjong in general
>They insist on playing it at a normal table and it's past the Showa era
>Without fail, the plot twist is people are cheating in high capacity

Can they just fuck off with that already? What's wrong with a normal table with players that don't cheat at a place where an automatic table wouldn't be expected? Like, as soon as they came out, somehow you can't play legit mahjong unless it's on a 400,000 yen table.

>>17268516
Osomatsu-kun did it, they were just all terrible at the game.

>call early riichi on haku dora tanki
>get disconnected
>reconnect
>no haku on the board yet
>disconnect again
>try back up computer
>Tenhou ID code not saved
>reconnect again
>see haku discarded upon reconnection
>ron just in time for mangan

>my heart

>>17272134
so you ron'd on furiten? don't you mean tsumo? or did you get ron'd?

>>17272267
No, it was fine. Just in time. Fuck muh Internets

>>17268516
Who are you quoting?

New chapter is out, guys.

>>17273686
Oh shit, that was today? Nice. I had been reading the series for the first time up since two nights ago, and I just got to this chapter today.

I did it! I lost my virginity! This is my first Yakuman ever!

>>17274281
Now you're ready for the next step: Scoring one against humans

>>17274598
I was going to post that as well but considering she tsumo'd, she would probably have pulled it out against humans as well. There's only so much you can do against a yakuman tsumo.
If you're dealer you could crash the walls and get away cheap

will i ever make it to tokujou?!
im literally at 400 matches played since i started my account in january, and ive had garbage luck this whole year. maybe its karma for all the terrible things i did in 2016. Can't say im surprised.

>>17274718
Post your stats.

>>17274724

>>17274724

>>17274808
Whoa buddy defend more and riichi less. Are those all hanchan?

>>17274818
yes.

>>17274281
try for a double(W) yakuman now, kid

>>17275083
Is that Pairon?

>>17275087
it was, yeah. no one can go there anymore...

>>17274808
>mfw hatsudan at 120ish games
Is this the hell I will be condemned to?
It doesn't look fun.

>>17275676
When I was still using smurf accounts, once I need to play around 20 games to move from shinjin. Getting one win was so terribly hard when the luck didn't align.

>>17274808
Well if you are getting 4th almost 30% of the time you are doing a lot wrong.

2.62 as an average placement means you are significantly less than average at your rank you are at, so it makes sense you aren't progressing.

Your stats aren't actually that far off from what I have, but if your placement is that bad then you need to focus on bigger hands. That's a huge deal in rate. If you want to play that way you have to counterbalance it out and punish the other players when you do win.

With a decent number of games under your belt you know the game and need to pick up some strategy, so it's probably about time to read the book.

http://riichi.dynaman.net

>>17275699
And I forgot if your goal is getting to Tokujou you need a new account. If you are soft capped you won't be able to hit R1800 without a ridiculous amount of work.

4 dan R1600 hell is ultimate suffering. I know a couple people here made it from 1650ish through sheer stubbornness but even that took more than 100 games at 4 dan (where getting 4th costs 95 pt).

>>17275699
And I forgot if your goal is getting to Tokujou you need a new account. If you are soft capped you won't be able to hit R1800 without a ridiculous amount of work.

4 dan R1600 hell is ultimate suffering. I know a couple people here made it from 1650ish through sheer stubbornness but even that took more than 100 games at 4 dan (where getting 4th costs 90 pt).

>>17274650
>That spoiler
That's when people start losing fingers.

>>17275894
Guess how many fingers I have

>>17259059
>So if you know how it works, why complain about it?
Because I lost 150 R without literally any fault on my part. Of course I didn't stick to quitting tenhou and palyed again. What happened?
>Opponents call riichi within the first 5 discard almost every turn
>Be 3rd place in oorasu
>Dealer (who was in last place) calls riichi and wins twice in a row with baiman
>last place lol
I play tenhou for over 3 years and I have seen some shit, but this streak is just ridiculous.

>>17275981
This is why I laugh at "mahjong is a sports"fags. I love Mahjong, but the people who try to promote healthy mahjong and "no dude it's a mind game sport" are absolutely bat shit crazy.

>late at night, want to play mahjong
>tell myself that it's a bad idea, too sleepy
>play anyway
>moat retarded game ever, 4th is too good for this level of play

BUT I WAS USING MY DIPSHIT ACCOUNT SO NO PROBLEM!

Grinding my way to reclaim 6 Dan. Everything is going as planned for now. Currently 18-28-20-18. Dropped the last few games but that was expected.

>>17275676
>hatsudan
What?

>>1727598
>without literally any fault on my part
Luck happens, and maybe it's true that you were powerless to prevent it, but I really really doubt that you played perfectly without any mistakes. When you blame luck for all your losses, you're just shirking responsibility.

>>17277730
Whoops >>17275981

Hey, does anyone know of a good cheat sheet I can print out? My friends wanted to learn how to play but don't know how to read Mongolian Moon Runes. Preferably, the cheat sheet would also have a list of yaku and fu points on it, maybe with an English naming scheme as well, cause I don't think of them as the type that would get full on weeby enough to learn that many Japanese terms. But, having said that, I don't want the EMA one. I'm not fully on board with their scoring sense or insistence on using Chinese terms over Japanese.

Tall order, but can anyone here fill it?

>>17277898
I actually made one for myself when I first started. I still have the printout in my tilebox but I can't find the digital version
There's probably anons with better versions anyway but ask again in a few days if mo one delivers and I'll see what I can do.

What do the blue and red +/- numbers at the end of a match on tenhou mean?

>>17278076
That's the uma (plus minus score). Don't worry about it outside of tournaments and live games.

>>17278104
It only matters in games if you want to win money

>>17278104
That's not what the UMA is.

>>17278076
That's the shorthand they use to tell how much someone has won or lost over a game. I'll skip the long explanation of it and just say that in real life you would multiply those numbers by the rate. The rate is usually determined as X amount of money per 1,000 points decided before the match.

So if matched ended as:
+65
+9
-18
-56
And the rate was say 50 yen, That would mean 4th place would pay out 2800 yen to 1st place, 3rd place would pay out 900 yen, 450 to 2nd, 450 to first, 2nd place would win a total of the 450 yen, and 1st place won a whole 3250 yen.

UMA is something different. Usually it's an additional bonus/penalty for ranking in the game. The usual UMA is 5-10, meaning 3rd would pay 5 units to 2nd, and 4th would pay 10 units to 1st.

Does the North tile in 3 player games count as Dora even if you use them in your hand composition?

>>17279971
No

>>17279971
They're called nukidora because you have to 抜く them out of your hand.

WWYD?

>>17280525
That's not the only thing I 抜く with my hand.

>>17282042

Cut 3s. If you have to make another discard after that, cut 5p.

>>17280525
Well, you're not getting tenpai in this hand. So 3m.

>>17282042
6s. The left-player put one down after the Riichi, meaning it's safe.

good job guys. you all get to live another day, unlike this poor sap

>>17282042
5p should be safe against the dealer and the riichi. Same with 6s.

>>17282042
9s. almost kabe from 3 discarded 8s, also all 9s are visible, also genbutsu against 2 players. also, 78s ryanmen is impossible because of 6s suji

>>17282042
9s. Guaranteed safe again two people and the other guy has a decent amount of green in his pond for me to assume it's safe. That, and if it passes, I'll have another safe discard. If there is another discard, can't tell if it's the last draw or not.

>>17283128
Based on the number of discarded tiles, this one should be the player's last turn.

>oh it's beautiful

3:0

>>17283128
I'm pretty sure it's actually genbutsu on the player in riichi unless I'm missing some case. Since all 9s are visible, the only possibility is 78 waiting on 69s. But left player played 6s already so this is impossible

>>17283475
>>17283481
Why is Egorapter scamming people at gin rummy?

>>17257561
A. I would discard 7m.
B. You picked 8p.
C. You dealt into riichi ippatsu tanyao sanshoku dora 3, so dealer baiman.

>>17282042
Manzu is too dangerous against dealer.
3-6-9s suji isn't safe against shimocha.
So I guess you discard 5p. Wait isn't 5p safe against both since it was discarded after his riichi.

>>17284816
why 7m? It's safe vs the riichi but dangerous vs the other two

>>17286193
Wut? It's the tile that toimen just discarded. So it's safe against him of course. And since kamicha has been tsumogiri for the past 3 turns it must be safe against him too.

>>17286197
my mistake, thought you were looking at a different WWYD

>>17286211
It's okay. That suuankou tanki was brutal though. I wonder if one can play around this.
Why would you discard 1p anyway?

Any good strip mahjong/2p mahjong games on ios?

>>17286226
>Why would you discard 1p anyway?
He read suji on the 4p and proceeded to drop a 1p, which happens to be a terminal. Usually, they're safe, especially when late like this. However, it was also "live" and very much a possibility.

Why can't I call tsumo on this hand?

Do closed hand yaku require the ENTIRE hand to be closed, and not just the tiles in question?

>>17288274
Whoops, forgot my picture.

>>17288278
Read more about iipeikou.

>>17288286
I didn't have furiten though!! ...Did I?

>>17288327
>WHATS A YAKU
This is your problem. Like the other anon said, read up the requirements for iipeikou to be valid. I'm assuming 445566m was your intended yaku?

>>17288274
My bad, just glanced at your screenshot and didn't read this. Yes, your whole hand needs to be closed.

>>17288395
No problem, it was my fault for separating the image and the question. I appreciate the help.

>>17288327
>>17288327
>>17288327
>>17288327
I FUCKING TOLD YOU GUYS!

I FUCKING TOLD YOU GUYS PEOPLE THINK THIS IS ABOUT FURITEN! YOU DIDN'T FUCKING LISTEN THOUGH AND NOW YOU'RE EMBARRASSING YOURSELVES!

>>17288286 FFFFFUCK YOU!

>>17289544
...what are you on about?

>>17289556
Old news. Don't worry about it. There are about 5-8 people who know what I'm talking about. This is for them.

>>17290469
>5-8
I'm avoiding that suji...

>>17288278
Iipeikou requires a closed hand. Your only chance of winning was forming yakupai.

>>17289544
Iipeikou requires a fully closed hand, even if the iipeikou is closed itself. The only way that turns into a usable hand is if you call the haku. I can't see enough of the table to know if you are on haitei.

>>17289544
lmao ok

1:0

another week of straight grinding! all this for tokujou

>>17291877
Seconding, 1:0

>>17292272
That's not the way most people get to tokujou

>>17292272
>>17294176
Yes, that seems more like a guide on how to drop out of Tokujou.

2:0

Currently translating a guide to cheating when I came across this.

It's quite harsh in that the dice roll has no room for error but if you do pull it off, your opponent's hand is as good as dead. If she tries to act clever and throw the dai san gen, you have all the power in the world to turn your 3 pairs into a very real dai san gen complete with a pao rule attached to punish them. The only way out is to give up on the dai san gen at an early stage and build a faster chiitoitsu.
Do you think you could overcome the greed for a dai san gen? What would be the digital thing to do?

For those who haven't checked recently, there are a couple of new articles on The Mahjong Guide.
https://mahjong.guide/2017/07/01/application-of-block-theory-part-1/
https://mahjong.guide/2017/07/09/application-of-block-theory-part-2/

>>17294176
>>17294181
>under estimating drunken mahjong

>>17297028
I'm not underestimating drunken mahjong (i'm an expert), I'm just questioning whether it will work for you

>>17296319
Throw two of them, then keep the last dragon as a pair. That would be the easiest way to deal with that I think.

>>17298147
If you want to lose, yes. What keeps your opponent from using his last dragon pair as his pair as well and get a shou sangen? If you know that your opponent cheated what you could do is throwing one pait hoping your opponent calls and keep the two others, though.

>>17298327
>Doing something if you want to lose
>As opposed to doing nothing and losing for sure.

>spent the whole weekend playing mahjong on arcade
send help

>>17288186
Even if it was suji so somewhat safe, he's not gonna win that iishanten hand with 1 remaining draw. You cannot discard 1p here, he should have gone with 7m betaori every time.

Can someone tell me why I didn't a han for the 112233? This shit confuses me to no end

>>17300163
Iipeikou and chiitoi are mutually exclusive. One is treated as two 3-tile groups, the other is 3 pairs of tiles.

>>17300163
iipekoi, chitoitsu, and ryanpeikoi do not stack like other yaku do. it's one of those exceptions mahjong is rife with.

you had chitoitsu which is worth 2han and takes precedence over ippekoi.

>>17300176
>>17300178
Oh yeah makes sense, thanks. Back to a few more rounds then.

I have the feeling that when you disconnect, tenhou activates the bad luck switch for you and you're thrown to 4th place. Not the first time I see a leaver start losing like crazy after they quit.

>>17301026
when you get a leaver you can be more aggressive and have obvious bad waits that the other two players would never deal into.

only having to worry about two players also changes the dynamic immensely. This might be my imagination but I feel some collusion between the remaining players to punish leavers.

So there I was, last round 2nd place 12000 behind first
Suddenly in a tenpai of either a two tile wait or single pair wait of the dora, with 2 of the dora already discarded
Go big or go home, need that dora for even a glimpse of first

First place deals into my hand with 9 circle dora
I have a triplet of the hidden dora
12000 hand

It's so goood

>>17300178
>precedence
Doesn't it count which ever gives the biggest score?

What are these cards?


Just won a round with a Chi-Toi with two dora tiles being my only winning hand

>>17277898
The Saikyo no Mahjong 3D download I got came with a yaku cheat sheet and a point cheat sheet, but it's three pages total.
https://a.pomf.cat/uenlhx.7z

>>17302388
Challenge cards
>Get top 2 twice in a row
>Tonpuusen
>Win 3 hands within 3 games
>Tonpuusen

Watcha playing?

>>17302458
playing on SEGA Net Mahjong

I'm playing pretty awful though, last place twice, first place once.

At -20 right now

>>17296319
Your opponent can just get chiitoitsu as well? How the fuck does this give you any advantage when you have the same hand?

Hmmm.

>>17303575
I think the idea is that most people would shoot for daisangen if they had a pair of each dragon in their starting hand. meanwhile your're sitting on the rest of them and are going for chiitoi right out of the gate

>>17301134 nice rumia

>>17301134
>Riichi Dora 5
If that's not one of the most bullshit ways to lose first place I don't know what is.
Good job anon.

So this might be a kind of odd thing to ask all of a sudden, but it's the way to handle these kind of things --


Who happens to:

- live in Germany around Hanover or Cologne
- be free from Friday and Sunday
- think that a weekend full of mahjong with 13 other people sound like a good idea?

Drop me a message on my trash mahjong email address:
maajanbu (at) yahoo.de

First come, first serve.
We only have one available seat left.

>>17307229
>The rapening begins part 2

>>17305409
Hmmm.

>>17307144
Oh, there are plenty of bullshit ways to lose 1st place.

Fuck. I didn't have the guts to call this riichi.

>>17310758
Is your Kamicha a bot?

>>17311243
Yep, that's the bot.

Please help, I think I'm in an abusive relationship with Mahjong. It just keeps punching me right in the face, yet I keep coming back to it.

>>17312625
Welcome to the harem anon.

how many 2nd places does it take to erase a 4th? specifically rank score, not R

>>17312625
Welcome to Suffering

>>17312813
Depends on which dan you're at.

>>17312813
Depends what room you are in and what your current rank is.

http://arcturus.su/wiki/Tenhou.net_ranking

>>17307229

Thanks Yahoo for deleting all my inbox.
I don't think I received any mails from you guys, but if you sent me one ... It's safe to say that, unless you respond to *this* , we're giving that seat away to somebody else.

>>17307489
C'mon, it's not that bad! Even if you lose, we'd cheer you up instantly!

>>17307229

Thanks Yahoo for deleting all my inbox.
I don't think I received any mails from you guys, but if you sent me one ... It's safe to say that, unless you respond to *this* , we're giving that seat away to somebody else.


>>17307489

C'mon, it's not that bad! Even if you lose, we'd *cheer you up* instantly!

>>17315627
give me a seat... my current one's worn out

I'm just reading through the Two-Player Mahjong game in Ten, and Ken says that Ten is using "Tse-ii-men discards" to fool Harada.

I've been using my best google-fu but I can't figure out what Tse-ii-men is supposed to be, it doesn't seem to be a yaku. Some google book has the term listed but refers me to "zetsuichimon", which again, doesn't give me any useful hits.

What is Tse-ii-men?

>>17315998
It's when you eliminate a suit from your hand completely.

>>17315998
Tse-ii-men and zetsuichimon are the same thing, 絶一門.
It's like anon said, eliminating one suit from your hand.

Pros:
-Your discards will look kinda like a honitsu/chinitsu.
>souzu souzu souzu souzu manzu shit she's in tenpai for pinzu I'd better fold with my souzu/manzu tiles all the souzu tiles were taken by her so I'll go with dealing this manzu
>BAM
>zetsuichimon
-Even if they don't get fooled by the discards, you do gain the flexibility of playing with single suit waits. The more same suit tiles you hoard, the more likely a multi-sided wait will appear. If everyone folds and your tsumo chances are high, it's your win.

Cons:
-You're losing out on a chinitsu
-The moment you decide to tse-ii-men, your urekire gets sliced up. If it's your iishanten, you could still make it. If you try and start a hand with zetsuichimon, you'll face serious speed issues.

My own take on it, courtesy of wikipedia. Take with a pinch of salt.

Is this What being lucky feels like? Also question to more experienced players. Go for chiitoitsu or 3/4 hidden triplets or let it depend on the next good draw? (Disregarding that I'd win overall either way)

>>17318338
Discard 9p and go for a quick open tanyao. You're in the West round 2.9k points from winning, you need to secure 1st as fast as possible. Chiitoitsu is too slow here.

>>17318338
It's West round so your decisions are very different. You already have a dora so all you need is any winning hand and you lock up first. Go for whatever is fastest, in this case open tanyao.

>>17318352
>>17318371
Unless your next draw gets you to chitoitsu tenpai (drawing a 9p or a 3s), in which case just dump one of the non red 5m and go for it. Do not riichi.

>>17318352
>>17318371
>>17318402
Thanks, although I more aimed for a more general answer, not specifically to that late in the game. Guess I went pretty overboard then. Without uradora though

>>17318495
It depends what you draw. If you make another closed set then you can go for suuankou, if you hit tenpai then obviously riichi. Just be aware that one of your 6s is already on the board and your toimen has already called twice.

>>17315627
>400 kms away

Can't join you anon

>>17315627
have you asked osamuko? im pretty suree ive seen the cologne meetups posted around there
pic unrelated (well except for the mahjong tiles)

Tfw didn't know what that button did, so I pressed it and did an abortive draw.
How much did I fuck up?

>>17323498
With 10 unique tiles you probably should have tried for kokushi. It's not a huge deal to pass on it though since it's S4 and you aren't anywhere near 2nd and are pretty close to last.

>>17323506
Never give up!

>>17323577
Wait is that ippan? You definitely should have gone for kokushi there. 2nd is worthless and there's no penalty for being fourth.

>>17323588
I would've if I knew what the button did. I'm still just testing waters and fooling around, sometimes going for dumb hands. In that other screenshot above I just tried out the button without knowing what it did.

This is the last round, unfortunately no ippatsu. Would've been nice though

>>17323599

>>17323620

>>17323620
>>17323623
Yes, that's the shit I'm looking for, thanks

>>17323498
read the buttons before pushing them lol... in a few days you're probably gonna come back telling us how you called pon rather than ron

>>17324410
>Being able to read
本当にバカですよね、アノンくん。頭は大丈夫ですか。

>>17323623
>Riichi is the English word reach after being moonspoken
Really? Isn't that just a coincidence?

>>17323498
With that point situation, you absolutely fucked up

>>17325221
>being trigger happy for buttons
｛片言入る｝

Would you riichi this or not and why?

>>17331813
Yes, because sanshoku is not guaranteed in this case. If you stay dama, you can't win off of 4m unless you draw it. If you had sanshoku or any other yaku, definitely would stay dama.

So I had a quick question.

What happens to any Riichi sticks left over in the pond if all last ends with East in noten?

>>17332139
I'm assuming you mean for tonpussen because in hanchan they just stay there for S1.

If someone has enough to get to 30k the game ends and no one claims them. If no one is at 30k you go to South 1.

>>17325232
No, not in the slightest. The idea is you are "Reaching" for the last tile. Japanese is filled with this stupid little shit.

>>17332224
https://ja.wikipedia.org/wiki/立直

>>17331813
Calling riichi drops you down to a guaranteed second place if you don't win, while a tsumo from the kamicha or shimocha would end the game with you first if you didn't riichi.

Another thing to consider is that I find it hard to believe anyone would drop the 4m against a riichi from you. The toimen doesn't need to be too aggressive, either, since just keeping tenpai would just win him the game in case of a draw (I think? would he get the riichi stick if there was a draw?).

So no, I wouldn't call it. There are fair chances of the 7m being dropped, letting you ron and win the game without calling riichi.

>>17333416
>Calling riichi drops you down to a guaranteed second place if you don't win

By this I mean if someone else manages to make a winning hand that doesn't involve the toimen dealing in, or a big enough tsumo to drag the toimen down for the 1000 point difference. Say, if the shimocha went for a quick tanyao nomi and got a tsumo, you'd be fucked if you called riichi.

>>17333420
>implying ippan players think very hard about defense

>>17332224
"Reach" is only said because it sounds closer to リーチ than pronouncing "riichi" as English. You dont know Japanese. You dont even know English.

>>17331813
No cause I'd want to make it a bigger hand, but since it's S4 and tied for first then yeah I probably would. If it wasn't so late in the match I'd cut the souths and try for pinfu at least.

>>17331813
Damaten.

Scores are tied, and you are the one in the lead by virtue of seat wind rotation.

If push comes to shove, there's the option of South pon and win the game that way.

Defend yourself.

>>17334640
screw defense. 2m

>>17334707
I love that attitude.
I bet it was the right move too, given the obvious haku defense. someone is on a taki wait for it.

>>17334640
5p?

>>17334825
More like I'm just being too paranoid about shousangen or discarding pinzu too near to dora. Also, I can't think of a reason to drop 8s, besides half-suji. This is why I'm in joukyuu, I bet.

>>17334640
Obviously the haku is the right choice (even though I'm expecting a dora tanki since it was posted), but the 4p should also be safe because the 7p dora just passed and all the 2p are gone so it can't be ryanmen. The 8s looks pretty safe since it's suji to both.

>>17334640
Drop the 2m. Seven turns is a long time and I'm not confident I'll get that lucky. Might as well bet on someone dealing into my cheap hand than risk failing at defending.

>>17334640
Given dealer's dora discard, everyone is attacking. 2m feels like an okay discard. It's one-chance, though some retarded pinfu + chiitoi double-ron gotcha is possible, and toimen is the most likely player to be waiting on it which means still being 3rd by 200 points if it's a mangan hit and less chance of getting ippatsu ronned by shimocha. There is also a lack of options for defense thanks to two calls, so might as well take that chance to cut off the round with a win on a decent wait.

For the full defense option, 4p is the safest discard, and 5p is not so bad to toss afterward. Souzu/dragons look like danger zones for some nonsense honitsu/chinitsu bullshit from shimocha from his discards, even if 8s is suji and there are three haku in hand. At least double ron is not possible with a haku discard.

>>17334640
Choice results in rekt.

>>17335481
Didn't expect that 4p shanpon from toimen.

What were the uradora by the way?

>>17335481
FUCK
That shanpon is messed up; not fun.
Where was the last haku?

>>17335481
Oh hey 2m was safe. Fuck that kokushi is scary, that's bullshit.

>>17335481
Here is what lies underneath.

And holy shit. Toimen would have been fucked over instead.

>Was an above average tokujou player for over a year (almost always above 1900R, peaked at 1950something, never below 1850)
>5dan

Now:
>1715 R
>3dan
>Have a below average placement in joukyuu over the last 50 games

>>17341934
we're all gonna make it brah

>>17341934

Same shit here. I was on good pace to hit 6dan and 1900+R. Then I got put down so hard I don't even feel like playing anymore.

>>17341934
Mahjong is about suffering. I thought we all knew that.

New chapter is out, in case anyone is still following the manga.

>>17343426
Kirinji sure is cool about his daughter sitting on another man's lap.

>>17343471
She has consent.

Hit another fucking wall at 5 Dan. 120+ games sitting at 1100 pts.
Quit crippling my win rate! (23% last 2670 games)

How can I find neets to play mahjong with in real life, /jp/? Surely my area has 3 other neets that also want to play mahjong in real life, my issue is connecting with them. How would you find people to play with?

>>17343828
where do you live?

>>17343848
tampa, florida area

>>17343851
animu clubs, animu cons, meetup apps, gamong clubs, ads, japanese markets/enclaves.

>>17343851
I live in Orlando and would be willing to make the trip to Tampa, but I doubt we can find two others that happen to browse these threads.

>>17343863
I wasn't actually expecting to find anyone in the thread, more like get help thinking of ways to find people. But one is more than none, so could I get some form of contact in case I can actually find some others to play with?

>>17343861
The only anime clubs I'm aware of are affiliated with a college I am no longer going to, the only con in the area happened recently and is only once a year. What apps do you mean? And there are no Japanese markets around, only Chinese, Korean and Viet

>>17343851
Did you ever visit Versatile Machinery?

>>17344703
What the fuck, I didn't even know about them. I might call them up and see if they know anything about finding people to play with in the area.

>>17344710
To anyone who plays Sega NET MJ, how do you play east + south round and not just east? I must be retarded but I cannot find it

>>17345091
it only offers tonpuusen which sucks because it adds too much luck

>>17344703
I always wanted to buy a table from them
Need money though...

How do I make the tiles love me? I wanna win with my nice big hands

>>17348238
become saki

http://tenhou.net/0/?log=2017072010gm-0029-0000-f2a335e4&tw=3&ts=9

This was way too lucky. Nothing flashy, but everything was in place, and had anything gone even slightly differently, it would have been a miss.

>>17348989
>had anything gone even slightly differently, it would have been a miss.

Not quite a win, but just had a game like that.

Shimocha must have been mad as hell, almost feel sorry for him.

>>17349423
Spooky

>>17348583
I tried, they didn't let me

>>17349423
Impressive

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>>17350133
Clearly not Saki enough

hey guys how do I easily become akagi within 2 months thanks

>>17352540
Organically grow a 8 inch or longer pointy nose

>>17252379
>9 months without a yakuman
>not even tenpai
>still get solid wins, but obsesed with the lack of yakuman
>finally an easy daisangen
>start losing like hell
masochism is the only thing that keeps me playing

>>17353994
i've always had massive losing streaks following all three yakuman I got. next time I score one I'll immediately switch to my noname account and ride out the storm

over the last two weeks ive had two games end with someone else getting kokushi (i didnt deal into either ok) is this a sign or something?!!?

>>17352540
find a way to have a night last years

>>17318338
You're dealer so tanyao, dora 1 is enough since it gives you 2han30fu, which is exactly 2900 pts on ron (1000 all on tsumo).
Like the other guy said, chiitoitsu is too slow so you shouldn't discard 5m for example unless you hit tenpai for chiitoi of course. But you'll want to call as soon as possible.

>>17331813
It's only 2nd turn, you have no yaku unless you win on sanshoku and you just need to win any kind of hand to get 1st. So I always riichi here.

>>17352540
commit sanshoku

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Anyone else going to try their hand at the saki tournament later today?
http://tenhou.net/cs/2017/07sk/
I'm just a joukyuu scrub so I'm hoping this allows me to play against tokujou and houou players.

>this greedy-ass R2092 play

I guess the lesson is to never give up even after you're getting shit on the whole game, since once in a blue moon, people will shit on themselves.

>>17358290
The reality is that you dealed in to some 3900 points hand that was amplified with luck.

>>17357132
Is the show any good?

>>17362314
yes its amazing

>>17362314
Anyone who plays mahjong should watch Saki and Akagi.

Speaking of Akagi, some of the tracks are missing from the released OST. Did anyone ever bother to stitch them together from the episodes?

>>17361772
I was reflecting on this after the tournament yesterday. Even against tokujou and houou players, I could still top the game purely because of dora. While terribly fun for me, it didn't feel fair for them.
However in the end, I still lost a majority of games and ended up in the negative. Hands amplified by luck mean jack in the long run, luck can only last for so long.

Replays related. Tanyao dora 4 and Tanyao dora 5. Not fun to deal into.
http://tenhou.net/0/?log=2017072219gm-0001-10011-3c117273&tw=0&ts=3
http://tenhou.net/0/?log=2017072219gm-0001-10011-ce541946&tw=3&ts=4

>>17362314
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=drZ1SWxNYb0

>>17362430
>>17362680
>>17362919
I've already seen the anime. I'm talking about the live action.

>>17362954
I just glanced through the drama's first episode and Saki's finale in the movie.
Most faces are cute, acting is meh, mahjong is ugh. It's not good enough to convince me to sit through the whole thing. I might do it just because it's saki but not because it's good.