/jp/ - Otaku Culture

Sekai/Denpa/Maiden
Ley-Line: The Borderline of Dusk - In QA, Summer release
Ley-Line: Daybreak of Remnants Shadow - 72% translated, Kickstarter finished, Summer release
Ley-Line: Flowers Falling in the Morning Mist - Picked up, Kickstarter finished, Winter 2018 release
Grisaia no Rakuen - Steam version released, uncut release upcoming
>Hoshizora no Memoria - 100% translated, Kickstarter finished, Fall 2017 release
>Hoshizora no Memoria Eternal Heart - Kickstarter finished
The Bell Chimes For Gold - 62% translated
KaraKara 2 - 100% translated, late 2017 release
Memory's Dogma - Code:01 Released, 02 onwards upcoming
2236 A.D. - 100% translated, Engine/QA work ongoing
Maitetsu - In QA
Nenokami - Part 2 2017 release
Kokonoe Kokoro - 100% translated, engine work
Creature to Koi Shiyo - 100% translated, engine work
Tenshin Ranman - 99.01% translated
Darekoi - 100% translated Engine/QA work ongoing
Wagamama High Spec - 100% translated, Denpa version announced. Demo released
>Koikuma - 74% translated, 2017 release
>Fault - Silence the Pedant - Demo released, Q4 release
Fault Milestone 2 - Side Above released, GE still to come
SakuSaku - Engine/QA work ongoing, Spring 2017 release
Baldr Sky - Picked up both 1 and 2
Fatal Twelve - 72% translated, Kickstarter finished, demo released
Her and Her and My 7 Days - 70% translated
Girls in Glasses - Picked up
CyberRebeat - Picked up
G-senjou no Maou - Denpa version announced
Re;Lord ~Herford no Majo to Nuigurumi~ - 100% translated
Nekopara Vol 4 - Announced
Unannounced Project 1 - 68% translated
Unannounced Project 2 - 100% translated, editing/engine work ongoing


Frontwing
Grisaia: Phantom Trigger - Vol 3 July 28th release, Indiegogo project ongoing
Sharin no Kuni - 2nd Kickstarter finished, goal reached, August 2017 release
Island - Roughly 50% translated, 2017 release
Subahibi - 2017 release
English release planned for "upcoming adult title"


Visual Arts
Little Busters - On Steam Greenlight, 2017 release
Rewrite+ - Picked up
Angel Beats - 50% translated


Degica
Muv Luv Alternative - 2017 release
Muv-Luv Photonflowers - Translation started
Muv-Luv Photonmelodies - To follow Photonflowers
Schwarzesmarken - Through Greenlight
Kiminozo - Picked up


Aksys
Collar x Malice - 7/28 release
Bad Apple Wars - 2017 release
Code: Realize fandisc - Picked up


Fruitbat
Seven Days - Late 2017 release
>SeaBed - 70% translated, Late 2017 release
Chuusotsu! 1st graduation - Kickstarter finished, demo released, late 2017 release


Other
>Kyuuketsu Hime no Libra - Release
Dies irae - Released, uncut patch late July
Tayutama 2 - Summer release
Utawarerumono: Futari no Hakuoro - Sept 5th release
Danganronpa V3 - 9/26 release
Chaos;Child - Q3 release
Magical Charming - Fall release planned
428: Shibuya Scramble - 2018 release
Love Sweets - Picked up
Noratoto - Picked up
Himawari to Koi no Kioku - On Steam Greenlight
Harumade, Kururu - Seems to have an English release planned
Taisho Alice - Volume 1 released
Lucky Dog - Possible iOS released based on the ongoing text only fanTL
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>Stuff like this has been either added or updated since the last thread

Just as a quick note, with AX next weekend, next week's thread will not be posted until either Monday night or Tuesday after the last panel with expected announcements.

What the fuck GHS hasn't been institutionalized yet?

>>17232889
Speaking of which has anyone actually checked out his new TL?

>>17232936
I'm sure it's a work of art

>>17232863
>Perfect December - Released
I don't recommend this series to anyone who wants to feel satisfied. The series overall has an extremely strong start, only to throw all it's potential down the drain during the middle chapters. The ending barely picks it back up, but I wouldn't say it is worth the time. I got no idea about the other 2 works though.

>>17232863
>>Monster girl quest paradox - Part 1 patch released
That is very unfair to any other translated RPG Maker games.

>>17232863
>Fan translation having more progress than official works.
Are fan translations saved?

>>17233179
no, because all of them will sell out

Top 5 Ranking: https://pastebin.com/9aaNgDkp
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As always, this tracker is powered by anonymous like you, so post order numbers if you've got em'.

>>17233179
You're welcome

Tsujidou's partial was really entertaining.

>>17233712
If you're a nukige pleb who likes sex in common route.

>>17234254
Oh, is that so? Time to start reading the partial I guess.

>>17233179
It's a fluke. Very rarely will that happen. And what's the quality of the work any of those projects released?

>>17234293
Ayumi is by a group that uses machine TL, who knows how George Henry Shaft's work is, and Paradox is technically not 100% complete but work on Paradox 2 is prioritized over the remaining H-scenes.

>>17232863
>>Perfect December - Released
Wasn't this released for the 3DS some time ago?
What am I missing? Did it get a PC release?

>>17234254
There's no penetration

>>17234502
Fuck I'm retarded. Just found the patch.

>otomefag fired from Sekai Project has to do a GoFundMe to return home
My sides. That's amusing negative publicity.

Oh, and more importantly this patch finally revealed itself.

https://equilibratingzero.wordpress.com

>>17234568
There's still (technically) 4 H-scenes.

>>17234576
Was this what the guy in the last thread was talking about when they asked to delay the thread for a few hours?

Poor Kei. I hope she will be able to learn it someday.

>>17233078
>Monster girl quest paradox - Part 1 patch released
Does it actually fully translated?

>>17234661
>>17234501

>>17234576
>5k dollars
I don't live in USA, but is not a bit too much? I mean, with that money I could buy a car here or live without job for a year.

>>17234692
The plane ticket itself only seems like a couple hundred dollars even if the plane trip is immediate.

The bulk of the money does seem to be living fees until she can find a new job. 5k would be enough for a crappy old car maybe, but if the living costs in Florida are anything like California, it would be only enough for a few months.

>>17234576
Can someone summarize the situation? Why'd she move? Just to work for SP? But she could have worked remotely?

>>17234748
I guess Sekai wanted her to move to California so she could be the head of their new otome division, but other than being slightly more convenient to talk in person occasionally, that's still more trouble than it's worth. No wonder Sekai is bleeding money if they paid for her initial trip.

>>17234800
>>17234748

Sekai did move her to CA and promised her a position there. However they instead had her work PR and do odd jobs around the company until recently admitting that they never really had a place for her from the start. So they shrugged their shoulders and laid her off.

>>17234817
Every day, it becomes easier to believe that they tried to screw Aroduc hard with Baldr Sky, and harder to understand why people stick by them.

>>17234817
>move someone across the country that you didn't want anyways
So that's where the KS money goes to.

I found this to be interesting https://puchitranslates.com/portfolio seems like this dude works on a lot of sekai titles.

>>17234941
I hope that he isn't one of the translators of CC.

>>17234954
It says right there that he worked on it.

>>17234941
Here's his Twitter if anyone feels like going through 36,000 tweets.

https://twitter.com/puchi_tl

>>17234617
Yes
>>17234661
>>17234690
Incidentally, all of the text in part one is also in part 2 (they are merged by fusing the CG galleries). So a 100% part 2 translation would also mean a 100% part 1 translation.

>>17234971

Ah, so that guy is a friend in shini's idol group so he basically just got a job through nepotism.

>>17234963
Yes, and also it says that he worked in Grisaia when the translator was Koest. If one had a good translation the other was shit then something doesn't comupte.

>>17234800
>>17234817
Is the otome/BL division even still a thing then? It makes it sound like it's dead in the water.

>>17235122

Oh I think they're going to keep pretending it exists but ultimately brush it under the carpet. The only property they really give a shit about is a Kickstarter or NekoPara. It's the only thing keeping their company alive.

Is it normal to feel burning hatred when I hear the name 'Dovac'?

>>17235265

Hating dovac is one thing, but you're not living the experience if you don't also hate shini, Evan, and Audun as well.

>>17235340
Literally whos?

>>17235508

The rest of their organization and the people running the show. shini is mostly known for the terrible imouto paradise TL fiasco from MangaGamer but he's also the one running the company alongside dovac. Evan is the bigger brown guy sitting down for most of the panels, runs the SP "manga division" and was the one who did the terrible job handling GATE. Audun does mostly work with Sony and other big brands to make sure games come out on the PlayStation and handles higher level PR in the background. You can see how successful that is by referencing SP's PS4 and Vita library. For the most part, dovac just assigns peoples workflows but he's also the one going out and handling issues that the SP JP branch has and also the final say on most new acquisitions (though most of that footwork is handled by shini).

So yeah. It's not just one person who runs the shitshow.

I don't give a fuck about the people behind. If a translation is shit, it's shit and I won't buy it.

>>17235158
Nekopara's getting a 4th volume, but there's only so far it can be extended.

I wonder if Nutaku funds ran out since Hoshimemo didn't come with a Nutaku copy. I suspect they needed desperately to reach the stretch goal... Kickstarter funds seem consistently stable though.

GATE manga translation seems like a bust, and who knows what happened to that Sakura Spirit manga. Their indie game acquisitions seem to be flops too. I hope Sekai is stuck in the VN market til it dies.

With Nekopara out of the way soon, KS seems like the most stable thing they can use to stay afloat. I hope that dwindles too though, and Sekai can finally go to its grave.

I apologize for the request and feel free to ignore me or instruct me to suicide, but did anyone upload a torrent for Kyuuketsuki Hime no Libra yet?

>>17235680
I'll humor you. Where did you search for it?

>>17235582
You're pretty knowledgeable about what's going on. Any announcements from sekai for anime expo that you know?

>>17235767
SP probably going to announce Amatsutsumi and I'll cry tears of blood.

>>17235767

I'm just a contractor so I don't know much outside of what I'm working on. And if I say what I'm working on, weeelll....

>>17235798
I'm a contractor in a big company and I at least know the list of the 50 or so projects which the team is currently working on. Step up your game. Your beloved coworkers are bound to slip some info.

>>17235782
Can't wait for all the characters to use random foreign lingo and to talk randomly like Australians/Brits

It's going to be another December without angels, isn't it /jp/?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i7vTlNKnOSs

>>17235659
>With Nekopara out of the way soon,
Hah. They'll keep milking it for years until it stops selling.

>>17235782
>Amatsutsumi
Didn't it take Sekai almost a year and a half to get Chrono Clock translated.

>>17235808

Yeah, but you're assuming that SP's organization is one that's held together with any sort of competence.

That being said off the top of my head Nanairo Reincarnation is one of them. I think they also have Sayori's two nukige they're going to talk about too.

The most interesting to me is that they're kind of sort of doing Teaching Feeling since they did Ray-Kbys' other game, but they're going through FAKKU who wants to throw their bid in for an adult games store like Mikandi did.

>>17235885
Inb4 Doggopara

>>17236042
Could be what that thing with Ishikei is. Pretty sure Sayori would probably kill herself before she draws dogs.

>>17236039
In the off chance this is true, I wonder if cafe is translating Nanairo for Sekai Project.

>>17236039
Don't reply to me with that retarded spacing ever again.

>>17235659
Hoshimemo did offer Denpa copies, so maybe they just didn't want to split profits with Nutaku. And if the VN is Loli, then maybe Nutaku refused to help fund that one.

>>17236039
What's the inside take on Baldr Sky's situation?

>>17236039
>Nanairo Reincarnation
Oh jeez, I hope not. That's actually a pretty good title. As someone who likes it a lot, I'd hate to see SP's grubby fingers on it.

>>17236300
From the point of view of Japanese companies, Sekai Project is pretty successful and has plenty of high level licenses under their belt. They're not going to see the criticism that the English-speaking people lay out.

>>17236335
I would honestly just rather see SP improve, but the only thing that's changed in the past year is that Dovac keeps his stupid mouth shut instead of yapping on Twitter about how much he hates visual novels and visual novel fans.

>>17236353
And they chased Aroduc out of translating since last year.

when will SP pick up WA2?

I'm out of the loop, was Dies Irae a masterpiece or another overrated VN by the cartel like Himawari?

And when is MG planning to sell it?

>>17236485
How on earth can you consider Himawari overrated and yet not know about Dies Irae?

>>17236568
what is himawari even about anyways, is it worth reading if you hated the meme known as grisaia?

>>17232863
Amayui got interface patch.
It seems the team will also working for full game translation too.
http://www.zapinterlations.com/2017/06/amayui-castle-meister-interface.html

>>17236587
It's about space and sunflowers, I guess.
I'd say it's definitely worth reading at least once. It's not a world changer but I really liked it.

>>17236485
It's fun. It was also surprisingly moe. If you're allergic to chuu2, you'll hate it.

MG sells it next month.

>>17236335
Friendly reminder that Chuable Soft is the one company that went out of its way to ask which localization company the Western fan base would prefer. I don't have anything against moege, but this is the reason why I'll go out of my way to buy Suki Suki day one.

Mangagamer is only one company though, and they can't localize everything. I'll try namedropping Mikandi Japan or Frontwing next time a company bothers to ask, as unlikely that will be.

>>17236254
Conceivable, but Nutaku recently allowed a game with material it didn't agree with on the grounds that the material need to be patched in. I can see Sekai objecting to making both an 18+ patch and a Nutaku patch though.

>>17236619
Aroduc said it's shit.

>>17236632
>MG sells it next month
Source?

>>17236876
Suki Suki is /jp/'s official VN.

It bothers me when translators translate "Mama" as "Mom". Especially irksome, when you can hear the audio. I mean what the fuck? Do they honestly think people don't know what a mama is?

>>17236967
Mom Seems like a better choice than Mama. It's not commonly used in english unless you are a nignog spewing Yo-Mama!

>>17236039
>That being said off the top of my head Nanairo Reincarnation is one of them.

Stop, please stop. Don't do this to me.

>>17236039
Regardless of how valid this post is or isn't, a potential Fakku partnership is certainly one option that has seemed viable ever since Sekai has seriously entertained a "solution" for Maitetsu.

>>17236967
Mama is a lot more informal. Only children use it, it's weird after that.

>>17236619
>Zap
Those clowns just pass things through machine TL. There was someone in /vn/ working on an actual translation though.

>>17237418
>There was someone in /vn/ working on an actual translation though.
Yeah, that'll last.

Does Libra get better? So far the protagonist is annoying.

>>17236587
NTR and sad lolis.

>>17237432
>So far the protagonist is annoying.
Isn't that a requirement of every moege?

>>17236908
Aroduc can go climb a wall of dicks.

>>17236967
Mama and papa make sense if you're going for a older-style British TL, but in modern English (especially American) it's pretty childish which is why most translators opt for "Mom" and "Dad" instead. I don't disagree with you in general, but that's the mentality behind the decision.

>>17236065
Isn't that furry faggot still working on Sayonara?

>>17237546
He'll drop it for the nth time like the fucking cunt he is.

Will the Sansha Mendan guy translate Mesu Kyoushi next?

>>17237645
Nah, he'll translate lxc and then lxc2.
So like in about 2 years probably?

>>17235884
It's only June.
Also, yes.

F/GO is out.

>>17237877
That's nice. This general is for visual novels, though.

>>17237877
And it's utter trash, tl wise.

>>17237432
I heard a few people say the routes themselves are better than the common route. Even the pissing apparently is cut down in them.

>>17237886
It's just as much a visual novel as something like Utawarerumono.

>>17237645
I'm not a big fan of Mesu Kyoushi 1 or 2 so there's no chance of those 2. Maybe Mesu Kyoushi 3 eventually, but I would not look forward to it anytime soon for reasons I'll detail in an obnoxiously lengthy blogpost following the release of Sansha Mendan.

>>17237441
Erect or flaccid dicks?

https://tsukiatte.wordpress.com/2017/06/26/requesting-hacking-help-tsuriotsu/
Someone help her

MLA kickstarter says that it already started debugging and beta testing and that a summer release is currently planned.

>>17239096
What are the odds that the Not-MoeNovel company that released the butchered version of Shuffle is going to eat it up?

Would be hilarious if one day MG gets the license back and re-announces it as a new partner.

>>17236908
If Aroduc's post about it is anything to go by, he's a moron.

>>17239096
Oh wow, she's alive

>>17239202
Aroduc is a smart guy with bad tastes.

>>17239263
/vn/ were the ones to wake her up. They'd frequently talk about how Ayakashibito's TL was underappreciated and that she fell off the scene after being discouraged by that
One day a few anons decided to say their thanks and emailed her and she came back after that

>>17239135
If they were going to be that theatrical about it, they would probably announce Shuffle Essence and maybe Soul Link ultimate rather than just release the old versions.

Libra is the worst vn I have ever read.

>>17239361
Have you read Koiken Otome?

>>17239361
Someone hasn't read Milkpot.

>>17239376
Hey, fuck you. Stop samefagging about how bad Koiken Otome is. It's not.

>>17239272
>Ayakashibito

She's the translator of that? It was quite good.

>>17239376
KO was bad, really bad, but nowhere near as horrendous as Libra.

>>17239442
I like Libra as a nukige, but I can't imagine why anyone would ever read it for anything else.

>>17239414
It's fucking terrible.

>>17239509
Looks like you are new to VNs

>>17239628
He's right, though. Koiken Otome was shit.

Koiken Otome is garbage.Anon defending it, you're on your own.

>>17239657
Are you new here? Every game is shit

>>17239701
Indeed. It just so happens that Koiken Otome is about 10 steps down from the usual levels of shit.

>>17239701
Don't try to drag everything else down just because you can't pull Koiken up.

>>17239711
>I haven't played the game but it's shit because I say so

>>17239762
Not him, but I have played the VN and it is in fact shit.

>>17239762
I have played it and it is shit.

>>17239762
lol

>>17239762
It was shit. The only good thing was this cutie.

>>17239096
Doddler can do it since he's not helping Aroduc any more.

>>17237888
No, no. The translation is amazing!

>>17240062
>Whassip! My homies!
Was herkz the editor or something?

>>17240072
Should it be, "Whassup, my homes?!"?

>>17240057
Doddler is still working on Prism Arc in the hope that Aroduc will come back.

>>17240090
What would happen to the VN industry if Doddler decides to quit?

>>17240130
Releases become a lot slower or prices go up as they have to source in more expensive programmers.

>>17240139
It's a good thing he didn't go to jail over the loli onahole thing then.

>>17240130
Localization companies would be more reliant on the parent company providing the programming at least. This may hinder some negotiations in the future especially for Mangagamer and JAST which seems to rely on Doddler the most. One thing to note is that Alicesoft games would be largely unaffected since they have SLC, a programmer with a lot of experience with the engine. I don't know about Sekai, they used him for Grisaia, but they don't seem to be using Doddler for anything else. Frontwing seems to have its own programmers it can use though since they are already a company that makes visual novels.

>>17240062
That one is actually pretty good though.

If I recall correctly, you greet Marie very strangely in the Japanese version and she copies you.

>>17240090
Neither of those things are happening.

>>17232863
Who's the blond loli?

>>17240303
no route from librashit.

>>17240277
Then why did Doddler say he would still finish it?
https://twitter.com/The_Doddler/status/872146884739125248
>I promised him I'd finish this though, so I'll do it even if he drops out

Ah, will Subahibi soon have an English release, then?
I've been looking forward to that for a while.

>>17239762
I read Akane (was that her name?), Touko and Yves route. I only liked Yves. I didn't even bother with the childhood friend.

It's not the worst thing in the world, but Yves' is the only route that doesn't feel fucking bland. I think the problem is that it feels like a battle harem LN in VN form and as cliche as moege can get, those kind of stories are even worse about it.

>>17240894
Wait for Frontwing to announce something. Maybe at AX.

>>17240277
I'm not sure how he would know either, Aroduc deleted everyone's users from the prism ark svn, so there's no way to even submit changes.

>>17240900
>I didn't even bother with the childhood friend.
Gay. Shame on you.

>>17236876
Mikandi needs to improve their translations though.

>>17240928
Sorry. I tend to like them but Yuzu, just remembered her name, wasn't really grabbing me and I was really burnt out from the previous 3 routes anyway

>>17241065
You should did her route first, gay!

>>17241092
Was it actually decent?

>>17241094
Nah, but you are still gay!

>>17241094
Not really. Yves is the only good thing in koiken otome.

>>17234817
Any screencaps, Twitter posts anything? I mean last I read she was fired and that was it.

>>17235582
>Manga division
>GATE

What the hell why did I not hear of this?

>>17235782
Can't wait for the EU refugee translation.

>>17241451
They announced it once (a year or maybe even 2 years ago), but they never really mentioned it after that.

I'm pretty sure they didn't even bother to announce Vol 1's release. I had to check the manga website on google.

>>17239762
Your shit.

>>17238633
Erect, with a bit of luck they will poke his eyes out

>>17240926
>no way to submit changes to a dead project

You don't say

>>17242279
Just because a project is "dead" does not mean the rights to the repository had to be removed. Aroduc is being very childish. He just had to accept Doddler's apology and move on.

lol

>>17242602
No more mature than a fan tl group and with the tl quality to match. Nice.

>>17242602
Well i had Libra on my wish list but if they are going to be babies about it then I will delete them off.

Looks like the only alternative left is Frontwing and Fruitbat(which really needs a decent Translator team)

>>17242602
What a bunch of retards.

>>17242602
People share links online? Unbelievable! If there were only such a thing as passwords and accounts!

>>17242916
Trust me, the TL quality is worse than that of a fan TL group. Not a single person there knows how to use apostrophes.

>>17243843
I honestly don't know what they were expecting. Having a single download link that works for everyone, password or not, was a silly idea.

>>17243843
It was password-locked, wasn't it? I remember having to enter one for it. Unless that's the different between physical backers and digital ones.

>>17243873
Can you send more pictures about how bad it is? I would like to see it lol.

>>17243945

>>17243945
I don't have any picture. If I had to printscreen every time I saw who's instead of whose or it's instead of its, I wouldn't have been able to progress anywhere.

>>17243934
The password was to get access to a link to the download, while the download link itself was just a static download with no verification. All it takes is one person to post the download link elsewhere and the password is useless.
Is a pretty poor security setup.

>>17243991
so it's there fault but they choose to blame the customers. Great PR

>>17244110
>there
where?

>>17243950
That is bad, these are broken sentences. How can you go with the intention of grabbing someone you already grabbed?

It would be funny if we could have comparisons between Japanese version and American. This is just bad.

>>17244190
right here fgt *unzips pants*

>>17242440
>rights
>apology

Neither of those things exist either.

>>17243950

>>17244278
>yShumaz

Interesting name...

>>17244278

>>17244290

>>17244276
Rights = user access
Apology = Doddler started working on PrismArk

>>17244370
Apology for what?

>>17244485
For not working on it earlier.

>>17244485
For not delaying Bokuten more to work on Prism Ark. Aroduc wants it to get to Sumaga-levels.

>>17239628
Koiken Otome is truly abominable but the art is really good.

>>17244297
The apostrophe is used correctly though "a human's" is less awkward sounding than "humans'"

>>17244592
I thought the problem was using "can't depend on" instead of "can depend on".

Unless Mari's just a weirdo.

>Maitetsu coming to PS4
Fucking Sekai was probably waiting for that, so they could backport it to Steam.

>>17242602
Lucky them that accidentally handing out free patches boosts their chances of selling steam games.

>>17244603
It depends on context, but replacing a period with a question mark would work.

>>17244617
Well, Monobeno was ported to Vita so is not suprising to see.

>>17244522
>>17244497
Why would Doddler apologize for not working on it sooner?

The worst part about Libra is that all signs point to their insane quote on translation they gave actually being what they paid for it. To spend so much on localization, only for the end result to be such terrible trash, it's really sad.

>>17244660
Because Aroduc is a kid.

>>17244678
No wonder he hates honorifics.

>>17244678
When did we turn on Aroduc? When Moogy put out the hit for not giving Sekai Project Baldr Sky?

>>17244770
We have always known he is a bit moody, just he seems to be taking it a bit too far this time. It is kinda understandable with the whole Baldr mess losing him a years+ worth of work but at the same time cutting off people like Doddler, who would try to help him in his spare time between working on contracted projects, seems unfair.
Aroduc does some great work, but it doesn't entitle him to be an ass even if has been down on luck.

>>17244290
WTF does this even mean?

>>17244866
I assume he is using his heightened senses to send "tentacles" out, where tentacles basically means sending out "feelers" or some other metaphor of expanding your senses. It needs some heavy editing.

>>17244866
It's a metaphor, you nitwit

>>17244839
You're giving Doddler a lot of credit when Prism Ark's problems were first posted in 2015 and still aren't fixed.

>>17244894
It's still very awkward phrasing.

>>17244839
>Aroduc does some great work, but it doesn't entitle him to be an ass even if has been down on luck.
Why not? If you were screwed over by Sekai Project, would you keep working with their employees and the people who are helping them screw over other people? Why wouldn't you expect the same thing to happen again?

>>17244896
He has been slowly working on it though since there were posts where blog Aroduc would say some stuff had been fixed.
http://tenka.seiha.org/2017/02/author-enjoying-sunshine-instead-of-recap/
He also has contracts he is obliged to complete so he can't exactly just stop working on them as some seem to be delayed as they are on technical issues. We also know some of the issues were pretty severe and even needed him to learn techniques he didn't know at the time like the exe patching he mentioned recently in a blog post that he got from working seeing the Rance VI svn.
http://www.doddlercon.com/main/?p=272
For doing something free in your own time then it isn't so surprising progress was slow.

>>17244839
>Aroduc does some great work
Does he though? Or is everyone just blinded by the fact that he does things with gameplay?

>>17244927
So are you implying Doddler was the one who went and sold out the project to Sekai Project? This is the third week we have talked about Aroduc and Doddler and I haven't seen anyone post any proof of this.

>>17244948
It takes two to talk.

>>17244947
He was one of the few who would actually follow through on such long gameplay titles at a reasonable speed which is enough to earn some kind of recognition.

>>17244988
And that is your proof? Doddler didn't even know it was being licensed while others did. He was even worried that all the work he had done on it was wasted going by the tweets he made at the time. So unless you wan't to go all conspiracy mode it seems unlikely Doddler was the one who was selling it out.

>>17244996
He ruined Duel Savior.

http://store.steampowered.com/app/650110/Princess_Maker_3_Fairy_Tales_Come_True/
PRINCESS MAKER 3 IS OUT MY NIGGAS

>>17245018
You're confusing then with now. Doddler's confirmed that he's working on Baldr Sky for Sekai Project.

>>17245036
That is not quite the the same as selling the project out. By that point it was already licensed and he had already published how he got most of the Baldr stuff working on his blog.
Refusing a contract at that point is basally the same as turning down free money and also painting a mark on yourself for other contract work.

>>17245031
When is this shit gonna be on GOG?

>>17245062
He could've turned it down since Sekai was being shitstains on Aroduc. Sekai was the one who got the license without telling anybody on the team (all the while expecting to use their work).

>>17245071
How exactly were they being shitstains on Aroduc? I get that they kept the team in the dark about the license, although it sounds like Aroduc was at least in contact with sekai since Aroduc claims sekai relied on their technical work to secure the license, but that's not really strong grounds for turning it down.

>>17245100
If contact is talk once every two months.

>>17245071
Is hard to speculate what went on behind the scenes but they could could have strong armed him into it since he was already doing contract work with them. But even without that just trying to work with them wasn't exactly a total bad thing since he was trying to get Aroduc on board as well.

>>17245100
No contact, low balling and impossible contact demands are basically what is going around.

>>17245062
Why do you think Baldr Sky is a person?

>>17245100
We already know that.

>We made an offer to them (which was flatly rejected for reasons that remain unclear to us even after expliclty asking), and they did make an 'offer' to give us a grossly inadequate sum of money to hand over everything we've done and walk away, after being told at the very beginning that doing so was completely out of the question.

>The most recent communication from Sekai Project was that we should "step away from it for a little while and come back next month." This was in response to an e-mail from me saying not-so-politely that "I'm concerned about the lack of communication," which was itself a followup to a more polite e-mail from Doddler pointing out that we're frustrated because they're not communicating with us… which had gone ignored for the better part of a week. The solution to the issue of poor communication is, clearly, no communication. That's merely the tip of the iceberg.

>>17245170
Why do you think it isn't?

>>17245179
>So long as we keep getting stonewalled, it's impossible for any conversation to even begin.
>I personally think they're woefully underestimating the amount of work the game needs, both in translation and on the technical side, and it's… disconcerting… for them to be this obstructive instead of trying to make any effort to work with a group that already has the tools, the knowhow, and the scripts/interface significantly more translated than not. Especially after what that group has already done for them.

>>17245189
>that group
Do we know how many people were involved in Aroduc's translation?

>>17245199
They're all working for Sekai Project now.

>>17245071
Doddler's in the same situation isn't he? If he refused, they will just kick him out and use the tools he already developed and pay him nothing too. Or they will discard everything and he would have also wasted months if not years on nothing too.

Clearly, the biggest douchebag here is Moogy who sold it to SP behind Aroduc's and Doddler's backs.

>>17245216
Moogy is in charge of Giga? That would explain a lot.

Baldr Sky never SukiSuki never Muramasa never

>>17245245
Moogy is in charge of everything. He is the God Emperor of the TL scene.

>>17245216
>Doddler's in the same situation isn't he?
Clearly he's not if he's happy to keep work with them.

>>17245253
>Baldr Sky never

I seriously believe that this will be true and SP faggots and shills will just keep on sucking Dovac´s dick

>>17245270
Doddler is only happy when Canada grows up to understand cartoons are imaginary.

>>17244839
>>17245216
Doddler can either have spent months/years helping Aroduc, or not helped Aroduc for months/years because he was too busy working on official stuff. He can't have done both.

>>17245275
Oh, there'll be a Baldr Sky.

But it won't have the same story or characters as the Japanese version of Baldr Sky. Everyone will be a chav, and all the cyberpunk will be replaced with memes.

>>17245311
You can be too busy to finish the harder stuff but still contribute help for the easier things that needed fixing.

>>17245325
That's how dead projects creep on forever. Everybody thinks they're contributing by doing some tiny amount, but not contributing in any substantive way.

Most of the VN companies have put out some sort of AX preview saying to expect announcements, though only MG gave a number on their announcements. Frontwing describes themselves as having "ton of exclusive announcements", Sekai just said they have announcements and Denpasoft says they have "plenty of title announcements and development updates." Jast is the only one who hasn't yet given an AX preview. Aside from that, Sekai did note they would have some Kickstarter related stuff during their stream last week.

The Sekai panel seems to be split between their industry panel and the Alice in Dissonance, not unlike the Sekai and Nekoworks+Degica panel last year. I'm guessing they would be seperate panels but Sekai wants to avoid a repeat of the embarrassment they had last year when they were forced to clear the room between the panels when they wanted to treat it as a double panel.

One thing of interest is that Sekai has put a tad more seperation between themselves and Denpasoft than the last couple conventions. It's not all that much seperation and the Sekai AX preview links directly to the Denpasoft AX preview, but Saji Sasai being a guest has only shown up on Denpasoft's stuff and unlike ACEN the R18 merchendise was only listed on the Denpasoft preview.

I guess you could fault a person for not wanting to throw away months of hard work on a project, but that would be silly.

>>17245031
Only Korean download seems to work right now according to the forums. English version is broke.

>>17245354
It's not about Doddler's relationship with Sekai Project, it's about Doddler's unwillingness to stand up for the people he was helping and leave them out to dry while still profiting off their work. There is no project where the translator is not the driving force behind it, and translation takes gobs more time than hacking even the toughest games. Doddler is still getting what he would've gotten either way, and I haven't seen a single indication that he cares otherwise.

>>17245410
>and I haven't seen a single indication that he cares otherwise.
Not like he could even if he wanted to

>Why won't Doddler sacrifice real money for feelings!?

It is a mystery

>>17245425
But the power of friendship!!!

>>17245432
>>17245425
>>17245425
Right. Doddler only gives a shit about getting paid. Which is why
>>17244839
Aroduc is justified in >being an ass
and not want to be stabbed in the back or blown off again.

>>17245444
So you're saying Doddler should turn down money for feelings? Because there's nothing else that would come of it.

>>17245452
If you're going to sell people and their work out for money, you shouldn't expect them to want to keep working with you.

>>17245348
It's hard to guess how this AX will compare to last year. MG probably won't be anything remarkable since they have 4 announcements, and their guests greatly limit what titles they would announce (and I wouldn't be surprised if it is a repeat of last year where their Otakon panel was remarkable instead). It's hard to guess what Sekai/Denpa may have aside from presumably Teaching Feeling and probably something with Saji Sasai's involvement. The best guess though would be for them to have picked up some more recent moege type titles considering that has made up the overwhelming majority of their full length lineup. Although I wouldn't be surprised if they have something about R18 Maitetsu, as while when they originally discussed a solution for Maitetsu something like Shiny Days came to mind, but if they picked up Teaching Feeling as well then any solution for potentially controversial content isn't likely to be limited to some hidden patch but rather they either are setting up a way to sell potentially controversial content or are working with someone who is willing to do so.

It's hard to guess what Jast might have, although if they actually have Muramasa as they have hinted at that would most likely be the single biggest announcement at AX and a huge step up from their panel last year. Frontwing is quite a wildcard as their two third party licenses thus far have been Sharin and Subahibi and their licensing strategy seems to have been to go after titles that are big within Japan, so it is entirely possible that they make another big pickup. As to their own content, they have more or less confirmed that there are plans to eventually work on a few of their own titles such as Hatsuru, any of which could get a proper announcement. Degica may or may not have anything to announce, although they would have a hard time measuring up to their Kiminozo announcement last year.

>>17245472
How did Doddler sell Aroduc out when he didn't even know Sekai was interested? Is he a wizard?

>>17245472
>their work
You mean Dodder's tools? As Aroduc's translation isn't being sold. Doddler didn't sell out the project to be licensed either and only joined with Sekai later on.

>>17245499
>>17245495
It was licensed due to Aroduc's work. Doddler is profiting off the license with no regard to that. The message to other translators is clear. He doesn't care about your project or your work, only about him getting paid for it.

Libra is TL is worse than any of SPs games

>>17245517
So we're back to 'Doddler should turn down money because feelings'.
You do know that if Doddler didn't do the work someone else would, right?

Autism: the thread

>>17245540
Thanks for keeping us on topic, Autism: the post

>>17245517
>It was licensed due to Aroduc's work
Pretty sure fully working tools were what got it licensed otherwise they would have given more serious offers for the translation to satisfy Giga.

>>17245527
>So we're back to 'Doddler should turn down money because feelings'.
It's called integrity. It's important to some people. If you don't have it, you shouldn't be surprised if the people who do spurn you.

>You do know that if Doddler didn't do the work someone else would, right?
Really? Most people here seem to believe that half the VN industry revolves around him and his work. If someone else will step in, then why are so many releases pending on him finishing the technical work?

>>17245540
Post cute autism.

>>17245549
>Really? Most people here seem to believe that half the VN industry revolves around him and his work. If someone else will step in, then why are so many releases pending on him finishing the technical work?
JAST got close to licensing it in the past. Were they going to use Doddler?

>>17245547
Here's the incorrect statement of the year.

Dovac thought they could bully the translation into their hands, plain and simple. It never crossed their mind that anybody would say no to them and walk away. They assumed that it belong to them from the start and that saying no or asking for anything in return was an unreasonable request.

>>17245559
Jast didn't. Second, those talks happened nearly half a decade ago.

>>17245547
>Pretty sure fully working tools were what got it licensed
It's funny because they weren't fully working and Aroduc was in the middle of looking for a new hacker to fix them when it was licensed.

>>17245570
>Dovac thought they could bully the translation into their hands, plain and simple. It never crossed their mind that anybody would say no to them and walk away. They assumed that it belong to them from the start and that saying no or asking for anything in return was an unreasonable request.
Do you have evidence of this? Or is it personal speculation based upon stuff posted here? I can understand them trying to get it cheap but to then throw everything out once it didn't go their way makes no sense if they had pushed the translation as a reason for the licence itself and not the tools to Giga already.

The team spent almost a year trying to get a deal both Aroduc and Sekai could accept. The team pushed as hard as they could to find grounds for a deal, because they feel doing so would have been the best thing for the project. Sekai can't give up creative control or management of the project, that's not a reasonable thing to ask. There were lots of problems, but they could have been worked through. If I thought we were standing firm for some ideological reason or against some kind of unreasonable demands, then the team would have declined to sign on, but I can't even say that was true.

>>17245606
Aroduc being a manchild confirmed

>>17245606
Then why didn't Aroduc sign on?

>>17245606
So the team signed on without Aroduc?

No wonder he locked you out of his repository.

>>17245606
>Sekai can't give up creative control or management of the project, that's not a reasonable thing to as
Is this fairly normal? As if it is then Aroduc should have experienced it in the past working officially on things. What was so different this time?

>>17245629
Jast isn't exactly what I would call a normal environment though.

Don't think I'd want to give up control to Sekai either honestly

>>17245636
>>17245629
Doesn't Koestl have creative control of Grisaia?

>>17245613
He is a manchild, but Sekai management is a million times more

>>17245606

You'd probably accomplish a lot if you worked on finishing bokuten so it can be released in august instead of wasting your finger energy on people that will believe what they want to believe

>>17245606
I have no idea what this means

>>17245651
The Aroduc situation comes up constantly over the last few months, the running assumption is that Aroduc himself is trying to rile shit up.

>>17245636
No matter whom you translate for, once a translation is official both the Japanese company and the publisher are going to have a say over what the final translation looks like. Just like the minori translations had to be approved before being officially released, removing the stuff NNL added and changing things as needed, and why the Rance team needed to get Aru's name bullshit approved by Alicesoft. Sekai honestly doesn't seem to be that concerned over how most titles turned out, just look at the huge range of script styles between Chrono Clock compared to their other titles, though I imagine Giga is quite concerned what Baldr Sky looks like especially with how specific terms are localized.

>>17245653
Basically it means Aroduc was told that once he had done the translation he would have no control over how it was changed/edited/cut up for all ages and so on. This was a step too far for him and so he walked away while the rest of the team decided to go ahead.

Sekai Project was a mistake.

>>17245641
I'm sure Frontwing and Sekai would have had the final say (especially on paper) on what gets published, even if in practice they mostly let Koestl do what he wants.

>>17245665
If that's the claim, it's objectively false, and he already brought up Jast doing that with Seinarukana but didn't care.

>>17245662
Letting a Jap company have any say in terminology is a bad move so can't fault him if that's the case.

>>17245689
>Sekai can't give up creative control or management of the project, that's not a reasonable thing to ask.
That line is what gives the claim. Is why I asked what was different this time. There must have been something in the wording of the contract that he couldn't tolerate.

>>17245662
>Aru's name bullshit
Arunaru did nothing wrong.

And thanks to all this drama we won't see Baldr for at least 2-3 years, and it'll be all ages. Of couse, it'll have a kickstarter with a deadline that is ignored.

Sometimes I feel embarrassed for this industry.

>>17245698
>>17245689
I found the Seinarukana comments. He talks about his translations and even bug fixes being overridden a number of times.
>I originally translated Murakumo (aka Kusanagi) as "Heaven's Cloud" and really like how that works with another important Eternity Sword, but I'm pretty sure that was overturned from on high.
>My rule was to fix problems as they were found, but I believe that was overturned and some (all?) of my fixes even rolled back.
>I wanted a cap on HP-percentage-based damage skills (especially black) because stat multipliers are applied to them, so on Super Hard when you have big multipliers, they're ridiculously broken and make bosses that have very high HP laughably trivial because you're doing something like 25% HP * 4.5 as base damage, ie 113% of the boss's max HP (minus defense mitigation), but I'm pretty sure that was rolled back.

He's also said that he turned down Jast for working on the Steam ports for Seinarukana and Romanesque, so it doesn't sound like management is a big deal to him either. I don't understand why these would be sticking points now.

>>17245736
>I don't understand why these would be sticking points now.
Maybe his experience working with JAST changed his mind? He did sound like he was getting annoyed with them near the end with how they had so many issues and kept staling the release.

>>17245744
>>17245736
Just to add some stuff from his blog posts about it.
>Since Seinarukana's apparently finally gone golden master, I guess it's probably time for this post, although nobody has literally said anything to me about anything, so hell if I know anything about its actual status
>But what I really appreciate is how they tossed out the site I made stole/improved/fixed from the now defunct Cyberfront version, and instead got caught plagiarizing a not particularly accurate summary from some random dip. Without even fixing the grammatical errors. They definitely have my stuff. They used a modified bit of it for the actual preorder page, as well as for the manual (which I literally just now got to review and at a glance looks infinitely better than that site). I see my 'In once such world' typo right there. Aaand multiple copy/pasting errors right after it. Oh, and there's also how they've whitewashed out most of the cast, misspelled a character name, forgot to put a character they listed in the header for that section, and how their awful template is still busted on all of my laptops. Serenity now… Serenity now… And yes, I already sent an e-mail about these issues.
> I’m continually shocked and left aghast at the poor business practices of these companies, even moreso after having gotten an actual glimpse into how they with Seinarukana and LWR.

>>17245736
>>17245606
I believe from what I know that Doddler is misrepresenting the issues, either intentionally or accidentally. There were some issues with creative control, but those were not the main ones. If Sekai had allowed him to work independently, turn everything over, be paid, and walk away like a normal translation contract, I think he likely would've accepted, finished his work, and washed his hands of it. But Dovac wanted to make an example out of him, so he was singled out for punishment, again, not expecting that anybody would be willing to say no and walk away.

Remember that the rest of his team has access to his work, so they get it anyway. Even if they don't use it word for word, they have crib notes and a huge head start.

>>17244617
>Maitetsu coming to PS4
I'm pretty sure it means no 18+ version too.

Even if Aroduc is a massive manchild he translated a lot of things I enjoyed. Shame to see him down on his luck.

>>17245036
>Doddler's confirmed that he's working on Baldr Sky for Sekai Project.
Really? Damn that's not cool. He know that Shitkai Project is going to mess up Baldr Sky english release and he's still working on it? I'm disappointed.

Honestly till Aroduc comes back and talks about it, its all just pointless speculation.

>>17245816
Wouldn't surprise me if he is in these threads and is the one who keeps on bringing it up every week.

Princess Maker 3 and Danganronpa Despair Girls just released on Steam today.

http://store.steampowered.com/app/650110/Princess_Maker_3_Fairy_Tales_Come_True/

Danganronpa Despair girls

http://store.steampowered.com/app/555950/Danganronpa_Another_Episode_Ultra_Despair_Girls/

I will say this much about Despair Girls play this game after going through Danganronpa 1 and 2. You will get much more enjoyment out of it.

But also i do wonder which Princess Maker game i should get and if there are any differences with the titles. Is Princess Maker 3 drastically better?

>>17245811
"Someone would work on it anyway, and they would be worse than me. This way, it sucks slightly less."

Rationalization of spineless, evil cowards everywhere.

>>17245821
Its the same autists that could not let go of Haro's small incident even when she apologized for it. I think they are bored and want to stir shit up in order to keep it going seeing what will happen.

>>17245823
>Doddler should've turned down money because of feelings!

Oh look, we've gone full circle

>>17245827
We haven't discussed Cudder lately.

>>17245606
I can't wait to read Baldr Sky all-ages version in 2020, buster!

Money is scary.

>>17245834
There's a word for people who do anything for money without regard for integrity or self-respect.

Republicans

>>17245844
Pretty difficult to eat feelings

>>17245662
>though I imagine Giga is quite concerned what Baldr Sky looks like especially with how specific terms are localized.
I don't think so, i mean they chose SP among the others english companies they don't give a fuck about the translation.

I blame Moogy for this, i bet hes pulling the strings

>>17245835
It's been at least 2 year maybe 3 since he last showed up or did anything relevant. Of course no one would talk about him.

>>17245852
Few Japanese companies are going to care about the style or quality of the translation, unless it happens to become a serious problem. Beyond that, in general they aren't going to be able to tell how the translation itself reads and will be received by the foreign market. In that regards, all the localization companies generally would look more or less the same as they all make translations which do sell in the West.

But for a technical game like Baldr Sky with a ton of terminology, a protective company isn't going to want to give up control over how those terms are translated to the whims of a third party, be it the localization company or a translator, and the terms of the license would include such a restriction. That would especially be true for a title that is part of a franchise that Giga would want to bring over more of in the event that Sky is successful.

>>17245887
I blame Russia.

>>17245493
It's hard to say what the Itaru title will be, but Holy Breaker might get some mainstream coverage. An original VN involving Itaru would be interesting, and 18+ versions of Kanon or Air would make the MG panel likely to be the most interesting panel, disregarding the likely profits on such old and already fan translated titles. The other three titles aren't likely to be too unexpected with one of them likely to be a Moonstone VN and the other two likely to be either fujoshi focused or Steam releasable.

This changes completely if the Itaru related announcement is announced only at the Itaru panel and the Moonstone game is announced at Ran's panel, but that's not extremely likely. It is also possible that the fujoshi pandering may be saved for Otakon, which would make the other two slots a bit more of a wild card. The Rance hardcopy (and various Alicesoft merch) being sold at Anime Expo does make an Alicesoft announcement at AX conceivable, especially with Haruka and Rance selling so well, but who knows. Alicesoft does have a Steam compatible series (Pastel Chime), but no one really wants that. Though with how laughably lax Steam has been recently, MG might even be able to negotiate a title into Steam that would normally seem impossible and release an 18+ patch for it.

JAST would probably be considered the winner of AX if they announced Muramasa, disregarding how long it would actually take for the game to release.

Hard to tell what Sekai is up to nowadays. Denpasoft does seem more focused on getting 18+ games though; I wouldn't be surprised if they got some noteworthy DLsite doujin game. They might even be the ones to release Softhouse Chara titles to the West, though Eushully is unlikely.

Frontwing is the most likely to get some mindblowing announcement, whether that announcement actually sells well depends on a lot of factors. Their crowdfunding money source seems to be dwindling a bit, and it may only be a matter of time before they start selling more lewd eroge rather than just hyped titles that may not sell well. Probably not this year though.

Degica isn't guaranteed to announce any VNs at AX, but such an announcement is likely enough with Symphonic Rain and Muv Luv Alternative being promoted in the booth. As far as Age goes, I don't really see Degica announcing anything too noteworthy. There's always the Kimi ga Ita Kisetsu remake, but most of their selection consists of fan disks to either Muv Luv or Kimi Nozo. I'm largely unfamiliar with Kogado Studio, so I can't really make any guesses except more of their yuri lineup. Well, unless they decide to localize Angelic Serenade because that's the default design skin of vndb, but Degica seems uncomfortable releasing a non-HD VN.

>>17245606
I expect better than weasel worded insinuations from you. If there was a reason, come out and say it.

Personally, at this point, my best guess is whatever the terms were that Aroduc wouldn't accept, they're extremely unflattering to Sekai Project, and they all know it. Leaking them would make Dovac go ballistic yet again. Most of Aroduc's Baldr Sky team (Doddler, DxS, Nagato) was already working with Sekai Project, so for them, that would mean being kicked off multiple projects and a number of paychecks.

>>17245822
Princess maker 3 (the English version) isn't working yet anyways. Start with Princess Maker 2. Princess Maker 1 is a lot worse, but fun in its own way. Only play it if you already like 2.

>>17245947
>They might even be the ones to release Softhouse Chara titles to the West, though Eushully is unlikely.
Please no. So much on both of these. I don't care as much for Eushully lately, but Softhouse Chara is my pet favorite company and it would break my heart if they signed on with Sekai Project or their derivatives.

>>17245950
>I expect better than weasel worded insinuations from you
Considering NDAs, weasel words are about as good as you'll get.

>>17245950
Then why hasn't Aroduc leaked anything if they are so unflattering? Not like they can take him off any projects.

>>17245976

He probably doesn't want to get sued

>>17245978
Should still be able to vaguely describe some things without breach of NDA.

>>17245967
Better to say nothing than to deliberately mislead.

>>17245916
You said both that they are bad at translations and that they would naturally demand to be part of the translation process. This makes no sense.

And we all know the whims of Sekai's 6 man translation team is going to be worse than Aroduc. Especially since they will be paid like half of what Aroduc wanted.

When will dovac bust out the super NDAs?

>>17246009
inb4 NDAs that sure you even if other people speculate that you're under an NDA

>>17245947
>As far as Age goes, I don't really see Degica announcing anything too noteworthy.
Maybe some fucking progress on Kiminozo, Photon fan discs or Schwarzesmarken. Degica never update their progress it's frustrating.

>>17245976
He's sick of Sekai Project's bullshit, wants them out of his hair, and knows from the first time he posted something unflattering about them, that they don't understand what NDAs cover and are happy to try to sue him anyway.

Guys there is NO way Sekai Project didn't just try to underpay him.

It all comes down to money. Stop getting caught up in irrelevant details. Sekai Project thought they had him by the balls and Aroduc told them to fuck off. Good on him.

>>17246009
>tfw doddler and people like him are working on hacking Vietnamese powerpoint presentations instead of programming for Real problems
https://danluu.com/perf-tracing/

>>17246048
tl;dr, seems like some nerdy P=NP shit

>>17245999
The thing they would care about is how specific terminology is translated (along with how to handle things like names), rather than "how will an English reader like the script as a whole", if only because they wouldn't have the resources or know how to do much about the latter. For example, someone from the Rance team when he was doing Q&A noted Alicesoft turned down some of the name choices, and gave the an example of Alicesoft rejecting a proposal to change Mikan to Clementine. But I would be surprised if Alicesoft did an editing pass of their own.

>>17246026
I don't know if any company actually bothers sueing people in other countries. It isn't like the world is one big USA where sueing is easy.

And I think as they can't prove any monetary loss, it would be hard to get more than your court costs paid at best.

>>17246057
Please stop talking thanks. Civil =/= criminal

>>17246056
Well, if they capture BUSTER and fix other glaring problems, I guess it would be nice. But sadly Sekai doesn't seem to cooperate with companies that look at scripts.

>>17246061
Maybe you should start talking, as you seem to know a lot about law.

>>17244839
>get fucked by sekai project
>your """""Friend"""" doddler continues working with them anyway
Haha just water under the bridge right pal? You're a pussy dude

>>17246086
Was he going to cancel all his other contracts with them as well? You know he is working on more than Baldr Sky, right? As that is what you seem to be insinuating.

>>17246081
You don't need to have a lot of proof to win a civil case and they are MUCH less expensive than criminal ones to go through. You could take them to civil court, get some monetary compensation and also get a court order that might encompass more than what the NDA had. If aroduc then breached that court order, it might turn into criminal charges.

>>17246086
>get fucked over and fired from company
>all your """""friends""""" dont immediately quit their jobs
Yeah wtf why aren't all my friends joining me in solidarity!!!!

>>17245967
He's insinuating that Aroduc asked Sekai Project to give up creative control and management, which is false. He could've just as easily said:

Sekai can't give up releasing it on PC, that's not a reasonable thing to ask.

It's a thing dishonest people do to muddle the truth, and anyone who does it should be ashamed of themselves.

>>17246109
>which is false
Where is the evidence? Are you Aroduc? Until he comes out and say something we can only speculate with what has been said.

>>17246095
>>17246106
I don't expect doddler to drop his contracts just like I don't expect aroduc to be friends with doddler any more. Pretty simple, you spergs.

>>17245785
>>17245606
I like how this snake is pretending it's about anything other than the $$$$. I wonder if Doddler will get a fatter cut now?

>>17245835
Cudder is always missed.

>lived long enough to see Doddler become the villain
Tragic

>>17246225
It's just one or two extremely furious dudes

>>17246234
Or Aroduc himself.

>>17246225
I mean he was literally arrested for pedophilia

>>17246239
Why not both?

Is it actually confirmed that sekai project has access to aroduc's translation? Or at least large parts of it? I can't see him walking away if him doing so didn't severely delay sekai project. Giving them the script and walking away doesn't make sense.

>>17246265
Considering there hasn't been a single update in a fucking year I somehow doubt it.

>>17246265
It's been explicitly confirmed that Sekai Project won't use aroduc's translation.

>>17246265
>Is <Anonymous claim> confirmed?

Nope.

>>17245606
>spent almost a year
lolwut
It hasn't even been a year yet, and all this shit happened last August. What the fuck are you talking about?

>>17246280
July, and I wouldn't put it past Sekai still being in negotiations this long

>>17246274
>>17246265
They have full access to it because Doddler and DxS had full access to it. They may not use it word for word, but I would bet my bottom dollar that when Sekai Project's official guesslation fucks things up, they'll be checking against a known good one. And even if we say that they're so impartial that they would never do that, they've still read all of Aroduc's translation notes and can fix all the shit that the Malaysians Dovac hires screw up.

>>17246280
Actually, it has been around 11-12 months since the drama. Baldr was announced roughly last year and that's when shir started going down.

>>17246307
Aroduc posted about it at the end of August. That's when discussions were fucked up. Aroduc tried to resume Prism Ark in February, so clearly everything Baldr Sky was done by then.

>>17246274
I'm not sure how copyright works but it seems dumb to not use it anyway. Not like it's easy to prove if you change words/sentence structure.
>>17246311
Yeah that's what I'm assuming will happen too. But I thought maybe aroduc could have wiped the backups or something if they were hosting it on a cloud. I can only imagine how angry I'd be if this happened to me. This kind of stuff could push a man over the edge

>>17246332
>Negotiations didn't start until Aroduc posted about it
>Aroduc is unable to do two things at once

????

>>17246343
Your reading comprehension is atrocious.

>>17246349
Your post consists of an assumption and something irrelevant to Doddler's original post, my friend.

Putting the bullshit aside, whats eveyones guesses for AX announcements? hopefully some alicesoft

>>17246377
moege moege moege and more moege

rance is grindy garbage btw

Is there even any progress on the new translation? I bet it sucks chink ass and at SP they are just overediting using the old translation.

>>17245950
I can't go into the details on what happened, but it is my honest opinion that if Aroduc and Sekai both came with the intention of working together, then a deal could have been made. The lack of trust killed it.

As for why I stayed, it's not about money, it's about finishing what we started. A lot of work went into it, though any work involving TL is starting over. It's the same way with with Prism Ark, I would like to finish it if possible. Yeah, that went some time without work getting done, and I feel bad about that. I was daunted by the scale of the work needed (reversing image/file compression and binary script format) and put it off for longer than I should have. I'm still up for working with Aroduc on projects, but it sounds like he's not interested anymore.

>>17246449
Why would Aroduc let Sekai shop his project to Giga if he didn't trust them? Why would he try to keep talking to Sekai Project and try to get them to communicate if he didn't trust them?

>We made an offer to them (which was flatly rejected for reasons that remain unclear to us even after expliclty asking)

Are you saying this is false? If it's not, I have a hard time buying that it was both sides, especially when one side has all the cards.

>>17246377
Itaru game, Moonstone game, fujoshit, steamshit/moeshit/fujoshit

Alicesoft seems more likely for Otakon.

>>17246449
Less drama and more Bokuten, please.

>>17246518
>>17246449
We know that Sekai Project cut them both out of the loop, so Aroduc had a clear reason to distrust them above and beyond Sekai Project's history. What did Sekai Project do to fix that? Probably threaten him. What did Aroduc do to make them not trust him? Probably that post, which is after Sekai already wasn't talking to him and is ex post facto rationalization.

>>17246591
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DDVrRlrXYAAfWEb.jpg
It's coming along, slowly.

>>17246591
https://twitter.com/The_Doddler/status/879853610338664448
It's coming along, slowly

I don't really pay much attention to the behind the scenes shit but Aroduc has done a lot for the VN community while Sekai Project has proven themselves to be faggots. I'll side with Aroduc on this one.

>>17246593
To add to that, Aroduc took the post down, so something happened that made him at least make an overture of good will, but nothing improved with Sekai Project's interactions with him. If anything, they seemingly got worse. Give an inch, get nothing. Why expect better for giving them everything?

>>17246604
Great. I've been waiting to read a new utsuge do i'm really hype. The chara-design is cute.

>>17246605
Pretty much this.
>based guy who releases VNs for free that he doesn't particularly even enjoy
>jewish company that kickstarts everything and underperforms in every category
Hmmmm I wonder where the fault lies? Occam's razor. Shame on Doddler contracting shills to post under his trip

>>17246608
>Aroduc took the post down, so something happened that made him at least make an overture of good will
Based upon what was in the replacement post and tweets doddler made about how people were being difficult around that time that was probably the start of "proper" negotiations rather than the once a month emails he complained about before. I expect his previous blog post forced them into a position of actually trying to take things slightly more seriously (or at least pretending to) even if it ultimately ended up going nowhere.

>>17246659
them who? Aroduc's team or Sekai Project?

>>17246666
Sekai Project.
Aroduc's blog post basically made it public that it was false that they had acquired his translation (since that was the speculation at the time) and Sekai has some serious issues. This puts some Pressure on Sekai Project especially if people are emailing in over it and Giga gets wind of it.
This is just my speculation though based upon the blog posts and the tweets that lined up around at the time, so take it with a gain of salt.

>>17245822
Does anyone know what happened to the guys tling Princess Maker 5? The last update was years ago. Oh well, not like it really matters, we'll be getting an official release in a few months.

>>17246690
Understood. We still have that post, which nobody is disputing, of Aroduc saying that he's trying to work with Sekai Project, and we know that he worked with Jast, who he didn't like much. Even Doddler isn't going so far as to say that he thinks that Sekai Project acted in good faith or made any attempt to work with him or that Aroduc's requests were unreasonable. I find that very telling.

>>17246690
It also makes Dovac look weak and Sekai Project bad, which triggers his autism.

>>17245384
It's working now.

>Giving Sekai Project the benefit of the doubt
>Assuming Aroduc was the unreasonable one
>It must be Aroduc stirring up shit against Sekai Project

Is this Bizarro world?

>>17246910
Everyone thought Doddler was a cool guy but he turned to be another sellout prick. Shame on him.

>>17246916
Why are you so furious about Doddler

>>17246941
Gee, maybe because he made Aroduc quit? C'mon son, you can't be this dense.

>>17246910
I'm not giving anyone the benefit of the doubt, it's just that we don't have enough information to make an objective conclusion aside from what Aroduc wrote in his blogpost, and what Doddler just told us now (which is honestly too vague)

>>17246916
Doddler said he gives equal blame to the two of them, which is hardly shilling for Shitkai. Doddler doesn't need to sell out - his full time job is a programmer, and they never hurt for money.

Either way, it's a shitty situation for everyone involved. Shitty for the Western audience who won't see Baldr for likely years. Shitty for Aroduc who feels burned by all of this. Shitty for every visual novel fan who likely won't see him contribute anymore fan translations.

>>17246950
>Doddler KILLED Aroduc

Sheeeeiit

>>17246910
This is what's called "astro-turfing"

>>17246951
>Doddler said he gives equal blame to the two of them
No he didn't.

>>17246978
>but it is my honest opinion that if Aroduc and Sekai both came with the intention of working together, then a deal could have been made

He's saying that they were both being stubborn. Granted, I can only imagine Sekai being more unreasonable than Aroduc, as per their MO, but you know how Aroduc is; he's an extremely stubborn person. Dovac really met his match with him - they likely tried to strong-arm him into a deal and didn't really take his personality into account. There was a fundamental mismatch between the two of them.

>>17246984
I thought Dovac stepped down? Why is that retard still making decisions?

>>17246989
That was 1 year ago bro.

>>17246989
He stepped down from CEO but he still works there. And his friend which took his place is hardly better than him.

>>17247001
Sekai Project has been doing better without him as CEO. They got successful kickstarters ever since with Nekopara reaching 1 million.

>>17246984
That's what he's insinuating, but that's not what that says. If Aroduc came with the intention of working together, and Sekai Project did not, the statement would still be true because they both didn't. We have plenty of evidence that Aroduc made concessions to them, and not a single person is claiming that Sekai Project made any attempt to do similar.

>>17247004
Honestly, Nekopara fans probably don't even know who Sekai Project is. Or care.

>>17247001
>>17247004
If VNs do breakout in the west into multiples of their current market (~$5-10 MM/year) Sekai will be the first to go under with the others quickly following. Dovac and SP are incredibly terrible but overall these companies have no business sense and are honestly embarrassing.

>>17247005
All the Alicesoft fuckers do this all the time too. They don't want to outright lie, so they make oblique statements.

>Aru, are you secretly working on Haruka for Mangagamer?
>Why would I translate Haruka?

Every single one of the fuckers thinks they're too clever by half.

>>17247042
Doesn't really seem like something worth making a big deal out of desu

>>17244929
>doddlercon
I guess it's safe to say that the law never checked what Doddler's website was named, or we'd have probably never seen him again.

>>17247229
Selfcest isn't illegal. I think

>>17246951
Not shitty for Dovac. He got the license, he'll run his Kickstarter. Nothing else matters.

>>17247345
I actually don't think that Sekai could do a full Baldr Sky KS, but that doesn't really matter. They can just claim that it's a physical version KS and still get a bulk of the money they need to break even.

>>17246950
If Aroduc quit it's his own choice to do so, you can't blame Doddler for that. Not to mention this situation is very complex and a lot - most -of it isn't public so making any judgements like that is as kneejerky as it is unfair.

>>17246950
People quit of their own free will. Stop trying to stir up shit.

>>17247737
Aroduc didn't quit until after Baldr Sky, when he tried to revive Prism Ark, but Doddler still didn't work on it. Doddler only started working on it again after Aroduc quit.

>>17245827
>she apologized for it

lol. Not really. Publicly shame somebody then privately dealt with it. Who knows what was said. Although for sure, she feels she was right since she sarcastically threw the "like an adult" line in people's faces. Well, at least she's better than that pussy, BDH.

Sekai Project's terms for Baldr Sky were unreasonable and insane.

Aroduc's position was
"I won't accept insane terms."

Doddler, DxS, and Nagato's position was
"You have to trust Sekai Project not to do the insane things you're agreeing that they're allowed to do."

Dovac can't stand pushback on anything, so that's where it died. His reasoning is "If you're not going to do anything wrong, you have nothing to fear. This proves you want to cross me." which is bullshit. You can call that a lack of mutual trust, but it's also bullshit.

>>17245606
Wasn't the issue that they wanted Aroduc partial translation but didn't actually want Aroduc to finish the rest?

> lowball on translation
> tried to kick out the translator

Sekai really fucked up on this one. I bet if they didn't pull this stunt, the translation would've been done by now. Nice going, cheap fuckfaces.

>>17249038
THIS. Damned SJWs.

>>17249080
Perhaps, and at least partially true. Dovac's almost first response after licensing was saying that he didn't think they be able to work with Aroduc and it'd be best if he signed over his work and went away. Discussions continued after that, but Dovac continued to stonewall the entire time until the official offer was made with the ultimatum that this was the final offer, take it or leave it. Self-fulfilling behavior.

>>17249130
I'm not sure money is even the issue since he worked with JAST and they are notoriously cheap too. Not allowing Aroduc control over his own work is something I don't think he'll accept (and he didn't). Sekai probably assumed he'll accept anything since he already spent years working on it. They assumed wrong.

>>17249038
Nobody without an agenda would call that passive aggressive shit an actual apology

>>17249130
I'm just hoping there's some progress announced for Sekai's translation of it this summer. Maybe they can pull a Clannad and get it done in a reasonable amount of time.

>>17249155
I'm hoping Sekai goes under due to Aroduc standing his ground.

Aroduc: The Savior of VNs

>>17249161
Don't be silly. They'll run a Kickstarter for it to bootstrap themselves right along.

>>17249171
Sekai Project? More like Kickstarter Project. Hahahaha.

>>17249038
BDH kicked Conjueror even after Conjuerer apologized and Haro seemed to calm down, which makes BDH extra dickish.

It's not a good excuse at all, but Trump being voted in made a lot of internet liberals crazy, and if nothing else, those two haven't done anything else too noteworthy on that front since then. They probably did settle it satisfactory privately, though I sense that it was as onesided for Conjueror as it was for the protagonist of OMGWTLOTL.

>>17249194
Diversity! (Unless it's my job on the line)
Tolerance! (Unless your ideas aren't the same as mine)
Free Speech! (Unless you say something to offend me)

>>17249194
I must've missed this. Anybody want to summarize what happened please?

>>17249230
Never mind.
>>/jp/thread/16098332#p16102947

>>17245031
Well. Now I know how I'll end up spending my weekend.
I was not expecting this out of nowhere.