/jp/ - Otaku Culture

>>17228668
>Jdrama
Jdorama.

新しいスレ立っても同じくだらない話ばっか爆笑

You forgot 4koma, haiku, koans, advertisements, and secret notes.

>>17228680
It'd drama, not dorama. You wouldn't write "bideo geemu" in English.

>>17228699
but you just did

How much experience with Japanese would I need to read Ace wo Nerae/Aim for the Ace? I assume it's not going to be entry-level but being an older Shoujo I don't see how complicated it could be.

>>17228700
That's nice, dear.

>>17228702
Post a page or two from it.

>>17228699
If they were English shows, it'd be drama (and belong on /tv/). But since it's Japanese you need to use the loanword, dorama.

>>17228709
You don't call Japanese video games "bideo geemu". Not even if they're in Japanese.

>>17228702
you have to know japanese to read japanese just so you know

that doesnt mean its complicated but it does mean you have to know japanese so my suggestion is to instead read at your reading level which you can identify by going through various level texts

>>17228709
Jesus christ, please don't ever become a translator.

>>17228714
>Eroge
>Nukige
>Dorama
Do I need to go on?

TL note: dorama means drama

>>17228727
It's an industry standard in translating. Surely my nakama here in DJT would understand.

>>17228708
Here.

>>17228722
lol I know. I'm just interested in reading it so trying to estimate roughly how much study it'll take me to reach that level. Gives me something achievable to work towards.

>>17228730
Eroge and nukige were coined entirely in Japan. We loaned them back. Drama wasn't. The word is not dorama, it is drama. I don't care if you're part of a community that uses the word dorama, it's not a real word.

>>17228744
Careful, someone might think you're serious.

>>17228708
>>17228745

Whoops forgot to attach it.

>>17228753
Yeah you could read that somewhere between six months and a year and a half in to your studies. Good luck anon.

>>17228757
Awesome, thanks.

What wuold you consider a necessary amount of practice per-day to reach that level reasonably quickly?

>>17228745
the estimate is it will take roughly the amount of time it will take you to work your way up to young adult reading level/comprehension

>>17228767
4hrs

>>17228767
if you cant manage yourself then you will never be able to do anything useful with japanese language

>>17228767
Just learn Japanese. Put in as much time as you can stomach without burning out.

>>17228773
thanks dad

>>17228776
Objectively true, was just asking for others opinions.

>>17228784
Will do, thanks.

>>17228747
>someone might think you're serious.

>>17228792
we dont know you and theres no one size fits all way to do it

the fact you ask for amount of time to study instead of asking about how to effectively study already shows that you are probably not well learned in the art of learning which you should probably spend some time getting acquainted with before you invest serious time in learning the worlds most taihen language nihongo

>>17228767
25 hours anything else and you're going to fail so give up now

>>17228804
> you ask for amount of time to study instead of asking about how to effectively study

You're right in that it was probably the wrong question to ask, however the thought comes from the same place (as in, I'm asking for advice on learning).

I'm fully aware more time != more learning, I was asking as I figured there are plenty of people here with more Japanese experience than me who might be able to say how long it took them. I'm more just trying to gauge the average learning speed so I know what I'm in for. Luckily I do know how I learn best, so I should be fine regardless of how long it ends up taking.

I get where you're coming from though. I'll work on my phrasing.

>>17228757
6 months to read that? Fuck me you're slow.

>>17228823
Well it suppose it depends on what's meant by comprehension. I "read" raw doujin right from the start, but I didn't understand shit.

>>17228823
I'm referring to fluent consumption.

Did the previous thread get nuked?

>>17228831
>what's meant by comprehension
Understanding the message, regardless of any lack of vocab or deep understanding of grammar.

>>17228845
too many shitposters and reposting plebbit questions

>>17228845
Yeah, people ended up spamming leddit posts/comments.

>>17228852
This is right. I'll note that this conversation wasn't about comprehension before, though, it was about reading. You can treat that a couple different ways.

>>17228822
you cant make accurate predictions with faulty data

skip the planning and just make the simple choice to do it or not and then not to be a slack ass at if you do

>>17228866
That's the plan.

>>17228863
if you create a divide in reading and comprehension now the chasm will only grow

and i dont mean comprehension as "translating" it back to english

>>17228874
Reading and comprehension are different words. They mean different things. They're used different ways. They describe different situations.

>>17228876
i dont care if you want to argue definitions

you know what i mean so dont do what im saying not to do

>>17228876
If you don't know what is going on in the story, how can you call it "reading"

>>17228887
By being a strict follower of DJT EOP ways.

>>17228878
I don't want to argue definitions. I specifically responded to someone else's post about the definition of an irrelevant word. This conversation was never about comprehension, it was about reading.

>>17228887
I never said you could. In fact nobody in this entire thread even implied that you could, except maybe >>17228823 .

>>17228914
下品だな

>>17228918
>except maybe >>17228823 (You) .
I was implying nothing, it's not difficult to read/comprehend a shoujo/sports manga at 3 months.

>>17228918
welcome to djt youre absolutely in the right place

>>17228935
>read/comprehend
These are not the same word. Stop pretending they are the same word.

>>17228668
https://youtu.be/RLEyKcQ7OKQ
Clear and easy Japanese to understand.

>>17228959
I never said they were you fucking retard

>>17228802
tell me this translation is unofficial

>>17228965
I never said that you said they were.

>>17228984
I have bad news for you.

>>17228964
cute voice

>>17228984
whats wrong with it i think its some of my best work

>>17228984
It's the official Chrono Clock translation that 1207 people paid an average of $72 for on Kickstarter and you can buy on Steam right now for $26.99 (down from $29.99).

>>17228753
>furigana
Tae kim is enough

What counter would you use for works of literature, rather than volumes?

>>17229094
If you don't know what counter to use you should use a generic counter an a precise noun.

>>17229020
Shit like this made me learn japanese.

Why do nips put question marks to sentences that end with よ but aren't actually questions? It doesn't make any sense?

>>17229287
Because every sentence must end with rising question intonationですよ?

>>17229287
The irony

>>17229020
what the fuck

Added Tsuushinbo to https://vnscripts.neocities.org/ and https://vnscripts.neocities.org/stats.html , donated by an anon.

>>17229287
like women do with の
(disclaimer: i'm a corefag)

>>17229287
もっと勉強したほうがいいぜ？

>>17229287
>It doesn't make any sense?
In the same way that you just did there

>>17229400
いやです
おいらが勉強してならNEETの資格を失うぞ

>>17229602
流石くそニート、社会のゴミ

>>17229657

>>17229602
それはないぜ？

>>17229657
isn't genki one by definition elementary level?

>>17229675
Yes, that's why they spend 2 years / 4 semesters on it. Gotta learn the basics!

>>17229675
Genki 1 and 2 don't even teach you enough to read Japanese. Even if you mastered them and somehow became fluent in what they contain without input.

>>17229675
college isnt meant to teach you its meant to make money off idiots and their idiot parents

>>17229694
Wrong. College is meant to give you a degree so you can actually live a decent live. Your poor neet ass wouldn't know that, though.

>>17229706
it must be nice to be young and think this

>>17229711
Come back and argue with me when you've completed higher education, faggot.

>>17229657
lol 2 years for N4

>>17229717
not even n4

>>17229716
i own my house and car and make enough money to buy all the toys i want and i get to post in this thread while im at my job

tell me how youre doing young ass

>>17229716
M8 ive got a masters and am a consultant in niptopia while I finish my PhD. College classes are a scam, use the colleges journal subscriptions and get into a research group ASAP. You'll learn 10x more and have actual marketable skills, which are worth far more than a degree..

>>17229657
That's terrible. Even duolingo would be better than that.

>>17229727
>i own my house
Your mom's house isn't entitled to you, she can kick you out at any time (which she will probably do).
>make enough money to buy all the toys i want
Chinese bootlegs don't count.
>i get to post in this thread while im at my job
If you have time to post on the job, 9 times out of 10 it means that it's shit or some software engineering field. You're not smart enough to be a software engineer.

>>17229747
Pretty much all jobs have stupid levels of downtime outside of manual labor. You'd know this if youd ever held a real job.

>>17229747
thats what i thought avoid the subject

take a seat little young ass weeb

>>17229717
They might even be referring to the old 4級, which is equal to N5

>>17229751
Where I work, they block all sites unrelated to my job. Maybe in your 3rd world country they let you shitpost all day instead of working, though.

>>17229757
content wise? i thought jlpt went from 4 to 5 levels for early learners

>>17229759
So not only are you a wage slave in a drone factory, but you're too dumb to get around a block.

>>17228668
I could be totally wrong about this and this is probably more of a cultural answer, sometimes I hear a senpai referred to as "dai senpai" presumably "big senpai" or 大 先輩 although when I google these kanji I get some gay meme no seriously,
So basically is there a deeper meaning to this other what it literally means or am I confusing shit again.

>>17229868
大好き先輩

just link stuff when you actually hear it rather than pulling from your unreliable memory

>>17229868
lmao newfag can't into japanese memes

>>17229882
先輩が巨根つてこと？

>>17229798
Yes, N3 was inserted in the middle

4級-->N5
3級-->N4
N3
2級-->N2
1級-->N1

Want to help me fill in the blanks?

>>17229915
Genki is basically the worst grammar resource.

>>17229915
kanji: rtk
grammar/vocabulary:eroge all day every day+text hooker or kanjitomo

>>17229923
Do you mean it's bad specifically as a grammar resource, or as a whole?

>>17229946
It's bad specifically as a grammar resource. And in addition to that it's bad as a whole.

>>17229946
people have been saying rtk is trash in these threads and i don't know who to believe anymore

>>17229956
If you're having trouble with learning kanji simultaneously with vocab it's a great tool, it's just wasted effort if you aren't having trouble. I have a shit visual memory so it helped me a lot.

>>17229956
RTK is good at what it's trying to do: Helping you remember and write all the Jouyou Kanji.
It is not trying to teach you japanese. Some people expect it to, and get really angry because it doesn't.

>>17230030
People get mad at people who recommend it because they recommend it because they think it teaches Japanese. Yes, this is a thing. No, it is not a straw man.

The approved method for learning Japanese is:
Reading Taekim
Watching Nihongo no Mori
Reading VNs
Watching Japanese television

>>17230136
Oh shit I forgot to add Anki for vocab, oh well

>>17230136
how long till n3 on this?

>>17229952
Why is it bad as a whole?

>>17229970
Do you mean if you have trouble memorising the kanji just by reading? I might face that problem so RTK or Kodansha might be good for me at some point.

>>17230160
>Why is it bad as a whole?
It teaches textbook vocab and the examples are unnatural and leave out very common grammar just because it doesn't cover it. In addition to teaching very little grammar, and teaching said grammar in a bad order.

>>17230170
I feel like you've only read the Tae Kim guide and completely swear by it because that's what he says in his intro.

Even though the "unnatural" polite forms Genki teaches are more common in spoken Japanese.

>>17230150
I don't know, I somehow lost 8 months since I started learning jpn and only now I'm watching the n3 series on Nihongo no mori

>>17230150
According to JCAT I reached low N2 level after 8 months of studying. I did Tae Kim then read for 1-3 hours a day, every day (skipping all the babby stuff like Hanahira/Yotsuba and immediately going for stuff I was interested in).

>>17230226
Forgot to mention, I was (am) doing a mining deck on the side.

>okay i'll try studying with some LNs
>they have light in their name can't be too hard
>open up haruhi
>first sentence is a fucking essay

>「もう手を出した？」
>「出してないよ」
>キスだけはしたけど。
>どちらかというと手を出された側……のはずだ。
Does 側のはず kind of mean "heading in that direction"?

>>17230199
Genki does not even teach ていく or てくる. Meanwhile it bloats itself with obvious compounds like てすみませんでした and ほうがいい.

I never read Tae Kim and you don't know Japanese.

>Even though the "unnatural" polite forms Genki teaches

I never said or implied that the polite forms were unnatural. I said that the examples are unnatural. This does not imply what you thought it implied.

>are more common in spoken Japanese.

They are not.

>>17230226
>>17230202
Are notes needed on tae kim or do I just blaze through it?

>>17230244
You're just bad, though.
t. guy reading haruhi

>>17230226
>>17230239
What stuff did you skip to reading instead of Yotsuba, and at what stage did you do it? I tried doing it but BNHA was just too hard for me.

>>17230226
How did you practice listening?
Also did you do the core after Tae Kim.

>>17230257
How so? I just said it was an essay.

>>17230244
Who are you quoting?

>>17230244
First paragraphs are a bad way to judge novels in general, because authors just tend to go all out on them. If you want to judge the difficulty of something, look at a random page in the middle.

>>17230249
I'm from >>17229915.

How did you learn Japanese, if you don't mind me asking? I'm still comfortable trying out Genki but want some backups if it's teaching style doesn't suit me.

>>17230252
I did the few exercises available there. Besides that I just read through it normally

>>17230268
No, it's not. You're just bad. Stop whining and get good, you big fag.

>>17230284
Oooh, my bad. I'm sorry, I didn't realize that you were autistic and don't understand hyperbole. It's tough to pick up on autism through internet posts so I expected you to be a functional human being, and that's my bad. Sorry to have upset you little guy, go on back to reading your novel now.

>>17230278
I read manga with furigana with a dictionary, complained about grammar I didn't understand on DJT, and once I was relatively fluent at reading, I watched anime without subtitles for listening exposure. I did flashcards in there somewhere but I never really finished core6k, I kind of dropped Anki once around 3000 words were added and never started mining. The fact that I'm not a failure despite not using a grammar guide and not finishing a core deck should say a lot about how important input is.

>>17230247
No

The 側 refers to being on the "receiving side" of 手を出す

>>17230297
It's not an essay. It's not even near a fucking essay. You're just terrible at Japanese, accept this simple fact and you'll improve a lot. Trust me, arrogant little shits don't get very far.

>>17230316
>It's not an essay.
I just want you to know the fact you said this after I directly pointed out I was being hyperbolic made me actually burst into laughter. Like, I was teasing you about being too autistic to understand hyperbole, not really being serious, but then you went and revealed that indeed you're too autistic understand hyperbole even after it's pointed out to you. Oh man, thanks for the laugh.

Since you're being so kind as to give me advice, I'll give you some in turn: Look up the word "hyperbole" and read its definition. Try and get used to figurative language. It'll help you a lot in the real world, assuming you're not going to stay locked up in your DJT / anime world safe spaces. Though I wouldn't judge you if you did stay in those safe spaces forever, having autism really does make living in the real world tough. Good luck man.

>>17230316
Are you really so mad about losing an argument with someone else that you have to pick on the first person you see posting something remotely on-topic? You have problems. Close the tab and break something to vent your anger, then meditate or something. You might find a new way to prove the people who offended you wrong, one that will actually work.

>>17230308
I'm assuming that 手を出すsimply means to "have a hand in a relationship" or "be in a relationship"? Does that mean he didn't really have a choice in it, or didn't choose?

>>17230339
Instead of telling me to learn the definition of "hyperbole", why don't you actually learn how to use it first? Your post implied that the sentence in question was difficult almost to the degree of an essay. If you didn't actually mean that, why even use the example of an essay to describe it in the first place? Stop being a dumb prick and recognise that you're just bad.

>>17230247
>>17230350
手を出す in this context means to take the "active" role, to be the one that initiates contact. 手を出された側 is the "passive" side.

>>17230374
>Instead of telling me to learn the definition of "hyperbole", why don't you actually learn how to use it first?

>If you didn't actually mean that, why even use the example of an essay to describe it in the first place?

Holy. Fucking. Shit. This guy is literally arguing about a word that he doesn't understand. This is the best.

No, I'm not the guy you're arguing with.

Seeing as genki gets shat on so much here, why is it even still in the guide? At the very least it seems like it could use some more substantial caveats.

>>17230252
I blazed through it myself and just referred back to it / DOJG / Google whenever I was hung up on grammar.
>>17230260
Mostly visual novels I was really excited to read, like 穢翼のユースティア or ひまわり.
Boku no Hero Academy is a shounen manga so it's definitely not anywhere close to the hard spectrum. You just have to accept that everything is gonna appear hard to you at the beginning. How you get better though is by going through it anyways rather than quitting or looking for something "easier" whenever you encounter the smallest difficulty. The only thing that's important is that your reading material is something that excites you and you enjoy a lot (hence going blindly with the usual boring beginner recommendations is not the best idea). Set yourself a time and read for that time daily. Don't pay attention to how many chapters you read or how slow you are, just read. It gets easier very quickly. I recommend installing the freeware program called ManicTime, it keeps track of any programs in focus so you can see how much you are actually reading versus procrastinating in your browser. This helped me manage time a lot more efficiently.
>>17230267
I did core for about 1000 words then started my mining deck. I didn't practice listening much other than the voices in the VNs. Practicing listening is a lot easier after you learned a good chunk of vocab first so you can actually focus on hearing rather than looking up words every few seconds.

>>17230403
Post some feedback.

>>17230350
No, it means "to make a move" on someone

>>17230403
It even says it tends to be "more comprehensive" which is outright wrong.

>>17230350
I think this is like "to lay a hand on, to make a move on," 女性を誘惑する meaning.
>Have you made a move on her already?
>I haven't.
>I have kissed her, though.
>If anything, I'm the one who got moved on... Or I should be.
The の is just to turn the phrase ending with 側 into a 連体修飾語 so it can modify the noun はず. It can be thought of as replacing だ.
>手を出された側だ
I am the side that was moved on.
>手を出された側のはずだ
I should be the one who was moved on.

>>17230431
>連体修飾語
Thank you for using exactly the right jargon since you used the Japanese jargon. Too many people use foreign categories 勝手に without caring about whether they're actually using them correctly.

Is there a *reason* for the anti-Genki here?I agree with >>17230403 that nobody seems to back up their arguments against it.

I'm neither pro nor against, just curious.

ITT people who really think Tae Kim/Nihongo for retards websites + Anki can get you anything above N5.

The only good grammar resource is http://www.geocities.jp/niwasaburoo/maegaki.html

Sadly, you need to know japanese to use it.

ITT retards who really think you can learn Japanese

>>17230448
1) It subscribes to pedagogy that doesn't work: expose, teach, test. The correct pedagogy is exposure and teaching at will, in whatever proportion the student wants. Nothing else works. Tae Kim at least cuts down on the testing part compared to Genki.
2) People assume it teaches more grammar than it does. It teaches surprisingly little grammar, and with surprisingly inflexible explanations. For example, despite teaching several terms that are only considered grammar features because they control 相, it never once even touches on how flexible the japanese 相 system is.
3) It teaches in a messed up order. Most famously, it teaches polite verbs before basic verbs, but it has many other problems in this category, like teaching ておく but not ていく/てくる, which are more common and harder to figure out with a dictionary. (This is an order thing because ておく is near the end. ていく and てくる are just past the cutoff point.)
4) As a textbook, it necessarily has to design itself in a way that makes it easy to sell to curriculum designer. This is the reason why it has a messed up order, has so many exercises, and cuts off during what is still basic grammar, but it has other negative effects. Like how each chapter is basically a graded reader explanation split up into discrete parts instead of having more lessons and grouping related terms (ので, のに) together.

>>17230454
Hey man it's true. Last week I watched the まま vs っぱなし video on nihongo no mori. That is N3 as hell, don't bully

>>17230454
i mean if you cant use those things to get started and continue from there applying what youve learned then theres a problem i think

>>17230431
Thanks, I just used 広辞苑 which used 女性と関係をつける for its definition, but yours makes more sense. はず seems kind worded weirdly though, I thought of it as "certainty", like "I think (that is the case)."

>>17230489
Interesting, thank you.

Like I've said, I'm still going to try it (because refunding things is a pain in the ass and they probably wouldn't give me one anyway) but I'll make sure to be aware of it's faults. I wasn't planning on using it as my only resource anyway. I definitely wanted to go over Tae Kim's guide afterwards to see what differed.

What do you think of things like Sakubi by the way? I feel if I'd heard about it sooner I might have gone for it. Sounds like it just throws you straight in and encourages fast study which I like, but worry I'd fall out of practice with it.

(semi-related, but no idea how I should be learning Kanji along with grammar, vocab, etc. Is the Kodansha book good or should I *attempt* to just memorise Kanji as I encounter them?).

>>17230550
I can't tell you anything about Sakubi, sorry. Someone else will tell you about vocab/kanji study.

>>17230550
Check Wasabi and see if it's right for you.

>>17230598
>Wasabi
I first thought you were legit joking

>>17230626
Yeah, sorry, should've written a bit more.
I do like it, though. Simple enough to understand, it's not dull, unlike DOJG or Imabi, I find it less annoying that Tae Kim, and better explanations that Japanese the Manga Way.

>>17230489
Actually regarding this, you can accept that people *have* successfully learned a large chunk of basic Japanese from Genki without issue, right? You seem very opposed but there are plenty of success stories. There's a reason why it's well known/recommended is all I'm saying.

>>17230679
Yes. Genki is serviceable. That doesn't mean it's good when there are objectively better alternatives.

>>17230696
Is there any book/learning style you would personally recommend?

>>17230732
I'm actually an advocate of guided readers that essentially consist of real text with hyperliteral glosses (linguistics style) and grammar explanations (using real linguistics, not traditional grammar), but those are only palatable to people with a very high level of academic literacy in the language that the explanations are written in, and an interest in language, you can't really do that.

>>17230403
There are people who learn better via exercises. But I think one can also argue that doing actual reading is the better exercise

>>17229868
https://www.japandict.com/大先輩

An alumni would be a daisenpai for students, for example.

RTK vs. Kodansha Kanji?

おはようおにいちゃん

じしんだ！じしんだよ！

Q: What sound does the train in Night on the Galactic Railroad make?
A: 中宇宙

No one can say I am not learning japanese
the results are real

>>17230857
And who's saying that shit? Disregard all people that tell you that stuff, just focus on your stuff, learn the most you can and use it for whatever you need.

>>17230818
投稿する暇があるなら逃げれば？

>>17230873
>And who's saying that shit?

That smug cartoon girl with the wide face and the beady eyes. You know the one.

>>17230857

Does anyone have a list or something that matches DOGJ entries with Tae Kim's guide? I want to go through both but if Tae Kim covers something I might as hell review it in DOGJ so I have it out of the way.

>>17231036
I mean DOJG of course.

>>17231045
i like dogj better because it says gj which is some desperately needed positive reinforcement

>>17230857
Also, I just learned that japan has a word for describing the act of addressing someone without honorifics
>呼び捨て
Pretty cool, and I guess that's to be expected since honorifics are part or their culture

>>17231088
Who the fuck cares

Is there a plaintext list / easy way to make a plaintext list of words (one per line) from the Core 2k/6k optimized anki deck? I want to import them into another program to practice handwriting at the same time and doing it one card at a time is extremely slow.

>>17231088
very cool

>>17231096
me and fuk u

>>17230297
In the other anon's defense, this sentence, if it were to be translated to Japanese, would be called "an essay" by your standards. He probably would have understood it better if you called it a paragraph, because paragraphs can be as short as a single sentence.

>>17230274 is who you should listen to, I think. Even in English, there are many short stories and novels whose first chapter tend to be the hardest to read.

>>17231105
https://pastebin.com/4LJampAv

>>17231175
i love you

やはり何も出来ずに済むか

If you don't learn the difference between
からかった (辛かった) and からかった (揶揄った),
you'll continue to speak conspicuously foreign-sounding Japanese.

>>17231688
The pitch on 辛かった is on the ら, the pitch on the 揶揄った is on the second か
What do I get?

>>17231688
Who cares when you have context?

>>17231769
Oh wait I misunderstood the point of your post

I thought on 辛かった the pitch dropped on かった and for からかった(からかい+た) the pitch dropped on った.

DJTの皆さん！Does anyone have this image? Only have the ant's version. I want it as she helps me everyday in my pursue of greater moonspeak understanding.

>>17231817
That girl is quite hot so it's kind of all right to have her looking down at ya
I'm a master Japanese though!

>>17231688
You can literally sum that up as pitch accent and not being overly dependent on kanji when listening.

Was reading a manga with furigana and came across 食いたい but with furigana くinstead of the normal たべたい. Looked it up and saw same meaning. Looked some more to see any difference and best I found was that it was a little more informal or impolite however the same dialogue has him putting ご in front of food names so I have my doubts about that source. Are the two pronunciations really just the same thing with no difference in usage or nuance and I am just looking too hard for meaning?

>>17231976
maybe he respects food more than people

>>17232001
I'll take that into consideration with this guy. That might give me a better insight into what the character is like.

>>17230925
避難してるのだ

きもちはひなんしているのだ

パークのききなのだ

>>17232108

>>17231976
く　is masculine and rough and often only used by men who don't have desk jobs.

>>17232178
食い断 is a masculine and rough rule often only used by men who don't have desk jobs.

イモウトちゃんどうかご無事で

>>17230299
>>17230406
Good help to me, thanks mates. 2k into core but reading is more fun and I was thinking along these lines.

Is

パンツを見せて

right for 'show me (your) panties'

>>17232493
パンツに見せて

What the fuck,i dont understand shit,should i read that Kim guy or not?the only thing keeping me from starting to learn japanese is you assholes saying that he sucks and that he is a meem

>>17232500
Everyone is also saying you can't learn Japanese. Why won't you listen?

>>17232500

>>17232510
oh shiddd I dumbed there :-DDDD

>>17232515
>tfw i also want to learn finnish
why must i like the most autistic languages

>>17232497
thanks that was actually my second choice. thanks so much senpai

>>17232493
>>17232497
>>17232523
...what just happened here?

>>17232522
Don't bother, you will literally never need it

>>17232555
From DOBJG p. 390, "If the main verb is a transitive verb, the causee can be marked only by ni..."

>>17232599
>the causee
That's not what パンツ is -- パンツ is the direct object, or whatever. If you want to use に, it would be in a sentence like this...
パンツを弟に見せた
..and that's a really awkward sentence I'm sure you would never see, but it should get the point across.
Then again, I guess I'm a beginner too except I don't care to read grammar guides -- I just go with what feels right based on what I've heard in the past.

>>17232250
やつは無敵だよ

>>17232772
あいつ*

>>17232775
おやつ*

>>17232799
im an hour late though
and they hate the late

I hate it whenever that nigga screams bonzai loud as fuck in my headphones

>>17232497
then what would パンツを見せて literally mean?

>>17232926
The panties show (something).

>>17232934
And they most certainly do

>>17232934
what application of the te more gives it that meaning? Looking at tae kim's page for te form and can't quite figure out why it would mean that.

>>17232921
edit the card and remove the audio

>>17232947

>>17232953
read more

>>17232705
I deleted the message because it was 100% wrong. Why are you bothering to reply?

こらこら。。。よく聞いて
田中ちゃん、愛しています。いつも愛するんよ。

what's this sideways antenna looking dude

>>17233023
That's Korean.

>>17233027
You don't know Japanese.

Hey, djt, what's better:
– reading for 2-3 hours/day on the Vita while looking up unfamiliar words and patterns on the phone without adding them to anki
or
– reading for an hour on PC, mining in the process.

No, combining these is not an option because reasons.

>>17233029
But I do know Korean.

>>17233047
Everyone knows you can spot Korean if it has circles in it doesn't mean you know Korean poser

>>17233046
The latter because mining

Hello /djt/

I tried to transcribe the song "Turn Back Time", a doujin song arranged by Shibayan with なち on vocals. Here there is a link: https://youtu.be/wgA4R_4HHK8

Here is my attempt for the first 2 and half minutes and if it would be possible I would like your help on the parts marked with 「」 because for some of them I am not sure and for one I couldn't make out anything that would make sense to my current level.

>Close my eyes いつも「りかんでくる」
>When your here, I remember 最後の瞬間
>And your face 今も焼きついてる
>悲しい涙が「笑顔」「閉め付ける」
>Looking back いつもかがやいてた
>笑顔 I remember 大切な時間
>Wish you (were) here 「今なの」[???]
>From my heart 違うよ I will never let you go

>その瞳がかすかに「嗅げた」
>見えない場所で日々は広がり
>この腕すり抜けていく欠片を
>抱き締めてた
>二人で見つけた流れ星
>かけた願いだけ信じていた
>静かに近づいてくる夜明けが
sounded like she said ちずか instead of しずか
怖かった

>>17233046
Mining.

>>17233046
I'd say the former but since you said Vita it's probably garbage material, so go with the latter. No reason why you shouldn't be able to do both though, you're making excuses.

>>17233051
대마도는 한국의 땅!

おはようおにいちゃん

おおあめとじしんのどうじはっせいで

どしゃくずれ

おこりかけだよ

>>17233067
Oh yeah where'd you learn English huh? By watching cartoons? My god westaboos are so disgusting

>>17233076
I know someone who moved from south korea to the US as a young child and did in fact literally start to learn English by watching cartoons before starting school.

why are all manga boring

>>17233084
because you're not looking hard enough for manga that are fun for ~you~

>>17233023
プルプル

>>17233088
how bout you find a manga that's fun for me. to make it easier i like laser beams and swordfish, so based off that find me a good manga

>>17233112
you might like toriko

>>17233088
dunno dude i dont have to look this hard in other media to find something consumable

>>17233129
that's because you don't know the terminology. Given your responses, your best bet is probably to download manga tagged with ヤオイ

How come doujin websites have way better readers than official e-book websites?

On most of them you can't even zoom and they give you a low res image anyway.

>>17233166
because doujin fans are dedicated professionals while most manga fans are filthy casuals.

>>17233166
Because copyright protection.

>>17233164
wow tell me this secret terminology that all the good manga hide behind. it better not be shounen/seinen/(略

>>17233187
ヤオイ

Does anyone know what PJで生えっち means?

>>17233198
Basically it's a grammatical pun.

>>17233169
>>17233170
I hate this.
I want to pay for the manga I like, but shipping is such a bitch.

I ordered のんのんびより11 and some LNs over a month ago and it still hasn't arrived.
I'd like to switch to digital but every single Japanese e-book website is utter shit.

>>17233200
Which part the PJ, 生えっち or both? and what do they mean?

>>17233204
The key is to buy whole box sets at once, you get screwed less on shipping.

>tfw google makes you question your sanity

>>17233204
Amazon is perfectly fine.

>>17233213
>Chinese font

>>17233198
>生(なま) えっち
Raw sex (without condom)

>>17233216
You're right, I never tried it before.

I had to provide a fake Japanese adress and phone number though.

>>17233213
And that's why you use dictionaries instead of google translate, especially for single words

>>17233249
Thanks I assumed as much but wasn't sure as I've never seen it written that way before.

>ぼーとく

冒徳だとおもってた

かきとりしなきゃカキトリシナキャｶｷﾄﾘｼﾅｷｬ

>>17233213

If mono refers to a 'thing' what does monotte mean?

>>17233253
http://www.tenso.com/en/
Might be relevant to you. You can combine multiple orders from multiple shops and only ship once.

>>17231688
I started at 24, my accent is always going to sound conspicuously foreign. Might as well have the "dumb foreigner" tones to go with it.

>>17233336
Does this cost extra?

If I only buy digital it shouldn't really matter right?

>>17233216
>>17233253
Another question, can I use my local Kindle with the amazon.co.jp account or is it region locked?

>>17233347
>I started at 24, my accent is always going to sound conspicuously foreign.

please read this
http://www.antimoon.com/other/myths-foraccent.htm

>>17233378
Yes, it costs extra. But you end up saving money on shipping because you're sending in bulk.

Yeah, if you completely switch to digital, it doesn't matter, but if you wish to order physical objects, it's quite useful.

>>17233381
https://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/help/customer/display.html?nodeId=201248840

>>17233381
You can, if you use a different email address for the japanese account. If you use the same for both, it will always login to the US Amazon

>>17233381
You can use any account with any kindle. Just make sure your different accounts have different email addresses or the kindle will confuse it and always log into the same one.

>>17233386
>>17233387
Nice, then I'm all set.

>>17228668
In a /v/ thread about Japanese (don't ask how that has anything to do at ALL with vidya), a anon said Finnish, Portuguese and Spanish natives have an easier time becoming fluent.

Can someone elaborate on why is that?

>>17233413
Presumably because of phonetics but he's full of shit and what he said was wrong.

>>17233413
Well there are a shitton of portugese loan words, but not enough to make a huge difference i'd think.

>>17233204
>I want to pay for the manga I like, but shipping is such a bitch.
It's either real books with shipping or low quality DRMed digital ripoffs.
Note that because the physical copies are so cheap, buying them with SAL still is cheaper than the English version without shipping most of the time.
And as somebody else already said, Amazon's sets are super cheap shipping wise.
So I really wouldn't recommend paying for digital versions.

>>17233392
Maybe this wasn't such a good idea.

When I try to log in it tells me:
Kindleの登録中にエラーが発生しました。後でもう一度お試しください

>>17233434
And this is why so many people pirate shit, it's the only way to get high quality digital copies.

>>17233413
Portuguese here.
Pronunciation is easy because they use the same syllables. Grammar-wise, we are used to tons of verb tenses, like in Japanese (not quite the same, but similar). But that's about it. Agree with this anon >>17233425
Unless your media or daily conversations are about playing cards (carta -> かるた) or cakes (pão de ló/pão de Castella ->　カステラ), it takes about the same time as any other Indo-European language native to learn.

>>17233413
All those languages can easily pronounce the japanese R sound.
The tongue location for english speakers to myself is never in that position, but it can be trained if you record yourself.
This is only useful in a vocal conversation of which the /jp/ flavor of DJT is not aiming toward(comprehension).

Well, its not a very high priority as the chances to use it outside of living in japan are low with the only exposure being forced practice.

Let's be honest, you all want japanese pussy. But are any of you really even average looking? Is it really worth it to learn the language just so a second country can find you to be disgusting on top of the one that already does?

>>17233577
Fuck off back to /int/.

>>17233577
Well, I consider myself fairly handsome and I have had occasions where people on the street complimented my sense of fashion (very orderly and conservative but not to the point where it's stuck up) and my good looks. I am at least average and possibly well above average. I have no doubt that I would have an easy time in Japan, the only thing left is learning Japanese.

>>17233577
Da hell, man? No one learns a whole 'nother language just to get laid. I want to read my porn

>>17233577
After I dropped half my bodyweight, I look a lot better.
Still introverted and I don't need anybody. Happy to spend the rest of my life buried in VNs, LNs and games sir

I don't get it.

>Let's have a nice thread by reporting and ignoring off-topic posts.

>>17233577
リア充爆発しろ

>>17233577
3DPD

>>17233577
They don't have to be Japanese, as long as they are hairy down there I'm happy.

>>17233600
I guess it's trying to say that rōmaji is inefficient and prone to errors? I never got it either
Anyway, while I'm still a beginner I just can't see why people wouldn't want to use them delicious kanjis
自動販売機　食器洗い機　沢山　立入禁止
Kanji is too cool
(There was that one time I was scrolling down through them yt comments and find a guy saying kanji was a waste of time for beginners... Oh boy)

>>17233600
Its pointing out how romanji will leave out long vowel sounds in certain words
Tokyo and 東京 is another example.

>>17233625
The intend is pretty clear to me, but what is the justification given here? I mean if you just say that having letters instead of syllables is bad then you might as well argue for writing English in kana.
>>17233630
I see. Wouldn't that be remedied by just using the correct romaji though? 東京 should clearly be Toukyou.

爐卍 (ろまんじ)

>>17233639
>correct romaji
Doesn't exist. The nips romanize ちとせ as titose because that's how they type it.

The Germans romanize 東京 as Tokio and the Englishmen as Tokyo.

Romanizations only purpose is to allow the masses to pronounce names to a certain extent without having to learn Japanese.
If you want to learn Japanese you better learn what they use.

>>17233658
I wasn't arguing for foregoing kana (lol). But the argument for learning them is that they are what is used, so you have to learn them and nothing else. Kana aren't in any way superior to latin letters and I would in fact argue that latin letters are superior as they can represent every kana and more. That comic implies that there lies some hidden quality in kana that somehow make them objectively better for representing the Japanese language, which just isn't true.

>>17233670
The advantage is they are explicit while romaji is implicit depending on the language the reader holds. The "advantage" of representing more than the kana is a disadvantage because those syllables are nonsensical in japanese.

>>17233670
Dude, go away. Kana and Kanji are perfect for the Japanese language and I have a slight sexual attraction to the latter
You don't belong here!!!!!!!!!!!!

>>17233681
>and I have a slight sexual attraction to the latter

>>17229923
Is marugoto any better?
I just got it from my cousin

>>17233675
>The advantage is they are explicit while romaji is implicit depending on the language the reader holds
Which is a moot point since the person reading the romaji would be aware that they're reading romaji and thus know to read/speak the letters in a pure vowel system. Of course not everybody who can read latin letters would know to do that, but the alternative would be them just not even being able to read the characters at all if kana were used.
>The "advantage" of representing more than the kana is a disadvantage because those syllables are nonsensical in japanese.
Being able to build more syllables with less characters is a clear advantage I'd say judging from the effort Japanese have to put in just to learn to write their own language.
You can build lots of nonsense words with kana too, so I don't see how this would in any way detract from the usefulness of latin letters.
Again, I'm not arguing for not learning kana, that would be stupid. I just don't like people actually believing that the reason they're used isn't historical, but logical.

>>17233716
>the person reading the romaji would be aware that they're reading romaji and thus know to read/speak the letters in a pure vowel system
That's why so many people pronounce tsundere and moe correctly, right?

>>17233716
>yes lets waste time representing a syllable poor language with multiple symbols that naturally have different soundings than they do in japanese
>surely this will help me learn the language

romaji is cancer and so are you

タイに行ってニューハーフとやりたいですわ

>>17233721
>That's why so many people pronounce tsundere and moe correctly, right?
Surely all these people would instantly know the native pronunciation if you just wrote ツンデレ or 萌え. The people not pronouncing tsundere correctly are just part of the people not knowing Japanese and thus at least being able to roughly grasp the content of the words they're reading, which is an improvement over not being able to understand anything. People that know how to read the kana and pronounce the kana would obviously be able to pronounce the latin letters correctly too since that's how they learned the kana in the first place.
>>17233730
Are you retarded? I said I'm not arguing for learning romaji instead of kana.
>yes lets waste time
Nuancing your pronunciation of already known characters would obviously be easier than learning completely new ones. Not even you will argue with that, right?

Imagine the Japanese had always used latin characters + kanji. No one in their right mind would say "Hey, let's make completely new characters that represent sounds we can already represent with the current system and replace all the used characters with them!"
This is what I mean. The use of kana is historical not logical. It's an artefact of how the Japanese language came to be, nothing more.

>>17233758
>Nuancing your pronunciation of already known characters would obviously be easier than learning completely new ones. Not even you will argue with that, right?

It's easier to not even learn the language
>Imagine the Japanese had always used latin characters + kanji. No one in their right mind would say "Hey, let's make completely new characters that represent sounds we can already represent with the current system and replace all the used characters with them!"
This is what I mean. The use of kana is historical not logical. It's an artefact of how the Japanese language came to be, nothing more.
I'm 12 and what's information density?

>>17233758
Actually, there's a very specific reason the kana developed into a syllabic system instead of an alphabetic one. Japanese has a very low phoneme density. Languages with low phoneme density prefer writing systems that put more phonetic information in each symbol. Alphabets are inappropriate for these languages. They would not use them unless they were adopting an abjad but needed to write their vowels.

I just realized I've been in these threads for a year now and I've never seen people do something like posting vocaroos of them speaking Japanese back and forth. Not that I would want to do it but it seems like such an obvious thing.

>>17233772
Practicing speech with other non-native speakers is one of the worst things you can do to your perception of Japanese phonetics.

>>17233772
I've seen that plenty of times so you are lying. Also you belong on /int/.

「そんなことより、部屋は選んだのか？」

「ああ、俺は二階の一番奥にした。

でも、外見ぼろいけど、中身も相当なもんだな、この寮」

「あははは、まぁそう言うなって。屋根があるだけめっけもんだし、住めば都っていうだろ？」

What is "めっけ" in the last line?

>>17233765
>It's easier to not even learn the language
Yeah, but that comes with the added negative of not knowing the language.
>>17233768
>Alphabets are inappropriate for these languages
Why? I of course see how mud hut people would rather use a few more sounds to represent their language so they don't have to learn to combine letters, but since everybody on this planet has to learn the latin alphabet anyway if they intend to make anything of themselves I don't think that holds in any way since the work has to be done one way or the other.

>>17233795
>more sounds
more characters*

>>17233795
>>Alphabets are inappropriate for these languages
>Why?
Because the human brain has limited resources and in practice systems that encode sequences of sounds are easier to read and write than alphabetic ones when you have too low a phoneme density. Duh. You are simply being pseudo-intellectual.

>>17233795
>Yeah, but that comes with the added negative of not knowing the language.
Just like using romaji

>>17233792
ます stem 目付ける + もの
>just having a roof is a good find

What would be the best kanji translation for Big Bad Wolf?

大悪狼? Dai-aku-rou? or Dai-Aku-Ookami?

>>17233811
Are you implying that reading english is hard? Because that would be the logical conclusion of your argument.
>>17233815
Are you purposefully misunderstanding my point or do you just have low reading comprehension?
I am not (NOT) arguing for learning romaji as someone who wants to learn Japanese right now. I'm saying that kana aren't better suited for representing Japanese if you already have to know latin letters anyway.

>>17233825
>Are you implying that reading english is hard? Because that would be the logical conclusion of your argument.
That has literally nothing at all to do with what I just said. And you'll be happy to know that English is, in fact, affected by this. English uses morphophonemic writing. Not phonetic writing. It does not subscribe to the alphabetic principle. Because doing so would cause it to have text too simple for the information conveyed by each word.

There is only one thing to worry about. Glyph sequence complexity relative to the linguistic information it encodes. If you use a pure phonetic alphabet with a language that has low phoneme density like Japanese, you are making unnecessarily complicated written words. If you use a pure phonetic alphabet with a language that has high phoneme density like English, you are making unreasonably simple and easy-to-confuse written words.

And Japanese phonotactics are perfectly suited for a syllabary. Even if everybody in Japan was completely fluent in using the Latin alphabet for their own language, a syllabary would still be better because the information contained in each character in a text is more balanced that way and the writing system does not

Alphabetic dominance over all languages is a eurocentrism. And you don't know even the basics of the theoretical or practical knowledge that there is to know about what you're trying to talk about, you are a dilettante. You have no argument. You literally do not know anything about the topic that you are trying to argue about. Stop posting.

>>17233842
>and the writing system does not
and the writing system does not cause problems because of its type.*

>>17233825
>I'm saying that kana aren't better suited for representing Japanese if you already have to know latin letters anyway.
I fully understand the point you're trying to make. It's just idiotic and completely wrong.

>>17231704
Correct, but some speakers will put the pitch on 辛かった even before that, on the first か

>>17233842
>You literally do not know anything about the topic that you are trying to argue about.
This is true. I noticed that arguing is the best way to learn something on the internet.
Thank you very much for clearing that up.

>>17233842
Not him, you're saying "phoneme density", but you mean "phoneme entropy". Each phoneme has lower entropy in Japanese.

>>17233798
Fun fact, in a future spanish language reform they actually discuss about getting rid of one of the letters s c z because they phonetically only use two of them.

>>17233869
You're welcome. Please see >>17233870 because he corrected something I was fucking up because I'm drunk.

Easy to understand Japanese:
https://youtu.be/Ohte57763KY
I love this kind of stuff, english and japanese subs.

>>17233876
>english subs
you're not going to make it brah

>>17233896
There's actually no point for him to have shilled his video here since it's not even in Japanese.

>>17233896
English subs are the most important part of learning Japanese.

>>17233903
Almost as important as english audio.

This is a reply to a post about watching anime.

Identify a mistake in it.

>>17233910

>>17233968
They did something besides play eroge

>>17233968
I literally can't tell what the first half of the sentence is trying to say.

>>17233998
本 is used as a numerative there. 毎 is read as ごと.

>>17233998
butchered way of saying they only watch 1/2 animes per season i think.

>>17234003
Those were not a problem.

>>17234004
What's butchered about it?

>>17233968
>毎一本か二本
if that か ends the clause before the verb hits を or is just 'or' I dont know what else is wrong

>>17234015
か doesn't end clauses like that.

>>17234014
>ここ数年
Also the orders all fucked up, your burger grammar is corrupting things.

>>17234017
My mistake.

>>17234032
ここ数年 is a thing.

But yes the order is all fucked up.

>>17233577
im asexual

>>17233824
Oo-aku-Ookami

>>17234044
How would you order it?

>>17233968
Put a の in between アニメ and を and replace しか見ず with だけで or just だけ

>>17234132
>Put a の in between アニメ and を

Lol what?

>>17234117
一本とか二本だけが見たアニメのだ or アニメは一本とか二本だけが見たのだ or something.

I'm not fluent but it's unnatural to use しか here, let alone putting アニメ all the way on the left edge without making it the topic.

>>17234099
Get that 重箱読み shit out of my face

>>17234136
Very advanced Japanese. You wouldn't understand it.

>>17234140
Yeah, your examples are terrible, but you correctly identified the mistake. The を should be は.

>>17234145
Nominalization after a noun? Reference to something in a previous sentence after said referenced thing being referenced? Neither is necessary.

>>17234150
>Yeah, your examples are terrible, but you correctly identified the mistake. The を should be は.
How about しか vs だけ? Am I right, or is there something contextual that makes しか okay, or am I totally off base?

>>17234150
冗談だよ
動詞がないし

>>17234152
https://www.alc.co.jp/jpn/article/faq/03/33.html

>>17233061

>>17234173
Your translation is fucked up and so are you

>>17234173
ok heres a response: this issue is still not actually solved lol >>17233968

get em tiger

>>17234166
どうも
>そのため次の例のように、「限定」されているものを『否定的な側面から伝えたい場合には、「しか」が適しています。』
>また、上記の例からもわかるとおり、「だけ」の後には格助詞「ガ」「ヲ」が現れますが、『「しか」には「ガ」「ヲ」は続きません。他の格助詞に関しても、二つの語には違いが見られます。』

>>17234204
If I can add an explanation my native Japanese teacher told me years ago, しか has the nuance of wanting to do more. これしかできなかった -> nuance of "but I wanted to do more". Then again, it probably depends on context and circumstances.

>>17234195
Are you going to give them the correct answer after they've all made fools of themselves?

>>17233968
ず is used as a coordinating conjunction instead of a subordinating one.

>>17234179

英訳じゃないってば

>>17234195

Nothing wrong with it.

>>17234239
もんだいがあるのですよね

>>17234228
it was posted less than an hour ago let that boy cook

just wanted to make it known that its still on the table for those who dare

>>17234252

ふん
だまされないよ！わたしテンサイなの

>>17233968
"見ず"を "見ずに"に かえれば ok

>>17234289
だますなんてないわ
しょうじきなのですね

>>17233968
I would say like this:
>ここ数年はエロゲばかりやって、アニメは1シーズンに1、２本しか見ていない。

>>17234322
you lost the explanatory tone, didn't continue reading after I noticed that

>>17234309
答えは目の前二・・

>>17233825
>I'm saying that kana aren't better suited for representing Japanese if you already have to know latin letters anyway.
Urusai!

心頭滅却

What exactly is the meaning of this?

>>17234420
Well I assume you know the jisho translation. It's just a pretentious Jap thing.

>>17233061
Why do people use music to learn Japanese? I can barely make out the words most of the time in English songs.

>>17234420
>心頭」とは、こころのこと。
>「滅却」とは、消し去ること。
>略して「心頭滅却」ともいう。
>「心頭を忘却すれば火もまた涼し」ともいう。

http://kotowaza-allguide.com/si/shintoumekkyaku.html

>>17234476
It's actually not that dangerous if you don't overdue it because of the benefits to your understanding of phonetics.

>>17234476
i dont think most people use it to learn like they would tyler kim or flash cards its just maybe once they think they know the words they like trying to put their mettle to the test and thats not really a bad thing

>>17234480
thanks for googlin that for me it was way easier than having to do it myself

>>17233061
>「りかんでくる」
浮かんでくる
>「笑顔閉め付ける」
笑顔締め付ける
>「今なの」[???]
今でも巻き戻せるなら
>From my heart 「違うよ」
From my heart 誓うよ
>「嗅げた」
陰った（かげった）
＞sounded like she said ちずか instead of しずか
No, she said しずか

>＞
bro what is that

its >s aniki

>>17234476
It's not a great source of input, but if the song gets stuck in your head it can become a powerful mnemonic device for whatever words you found in it.

>>17234476
Because it's relatively hard to understand and often contains uncommon vocab.
Plus it's fun.

I just started and I'm using the よつばと！ reading pack with the anki deck. My problem is with the anki deck, even if I'm only doing 10 cards a day, I can't seem to remember anything. It takes me almost 40 minutes to review 30 cards. And the reviews just keep piling up.

Anyone have tips or advice?

>>17234833
Don't worry too much if you keep forgetting new (3-5 days) words and if reviews keeps piling up. It's part and parcel of learning Japanese. Eventually it will stick. Keep going.

Any good supplements or nootropics for learning Japanese?

>>17234848
Amphetamine-class stimulants.

>>17234848
H2O. Keep yourself hydrated, boy.

>>17234848
Semen.

>>17234848
Rice balls and green tea

>>17234848
愛液

>>17234848
I always take some Dioxygen. At this point I don't think I could study without it.

https://odaibako.net/
Been seeing this linked with art on twitter, what does it mean?

>>17235020
The pleasure of bring cummed inside.

>>17235020
theres an explanation right on fucken page lame brain

>>17235020
>this linked with art on twitter, what does it mean?
People link things on twitter. Maybe they like it or want other people to use it. There is no deeper meaning behind linking something on twitter.

1 week until JLPT.
Feeling prepared?

>>17235073
Mine is in December. Why rush it?

>>17235073
I aint paying 50 burgerbucks to get a piece of paper m8

>>17235089
You can't even take it in July, dumb burger.

>>17235073
Nah. I already have N1.

>>17230797
Thanks anon. Can't believe I didn't find that.

Simple answer for a dumb question.

>>17235073
Passed N1 in winter 2015, I don't care enough to try again for a better score.

>>17234846
Thanks, I got one more question. How do I use the cards with the hiragana and meaning on the front and the kanji on the back? I can't seem to remember the shapes of the kanji exactly so I don't know how to gauge how easy it was.

>>17233100
at last I see
thank you, kouhai

here, take all my soudanes, they are yours

>>17233968
ここ数年アニメはシーズン毎に一作か二作しか見てないで、その代わりに大体エロゲをやっている

>>17233968
the font

also this >>17234309

How do you stroke order kanji you've never seen before?
Also how do you recognize kanji with small font when your eyesight might be less than perfect?