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HAHA
Time for SA 1cc.

I've been working on an EoSD extra stage clear and an EoSD lunatic 1cc. Struggling with both patchy in the extra and in stage 4 at the moment. I'm using reimu b.

Is Reimu's hitbox smaller than Marisa's in every game?

>>16515143
did you just

did he just imply that marisa is FAT?

>>16515143
Not in every game. As far as i know that started on PCB

>>16514980
Welp, just cleared LoLK Pointdevice with Reimu. I feel empty as fuck, like I didn't deserve to beat this game.
Should I clear it in Legacy too?

>>16515951
It's more interesting without bombs, but it's even more of a boot camp.

How well do the games run on WINE?

>>16516237
Expecting them 'just to werk' I got slight input lag in all the games I tried, and going full screen did not preserve the aspect ratio. EoSD actually ran with slowdown issues and unexpected sprite behaviour. I'm using an AMD GPU with notorious driver support on Linux which probably contributed. I got lazy after seeing all that and just repurposed an older machine to play the Touhou games on Windows directly instead.

Finally got a normal 1cc on IN. Not a huge achievement to brag about on the jay since I set starting lives up, but it was a big one for me. Plan to work on it even more so I can consistently do it and then try it on default lives. Does anyone have any helpful tips for dealing with Marisa in general? She seems to be the biggest road block for me, and even though I keep practicing she just gives me so much trouble in general. Using border team/just Yukari depending on mood if that changes anything.

>>16516594
Setting default lives up is already bad enough, but you have unlocked Yukari despite not having beat Kaguya with all the teams? Shame on you.

>>16516688
Beat it with all the teams on easy, sorry man I am relatively new to playing Touhou (on on off for a decent amount of time but most likely less than 15-20 hours total spend across all windows games including the fighting ones so just now attempting to actually learn a game). I don't mind if I do "scrub" stuff or "secondary" stuff while playing as long as at the end after I keep at it I can do it the right way. I'm getting better and things that were a problem are becoming more and more doable and my goal is to move on to normal 1cc default lives and then up a difficulty with the same, Just wondering if Marisa is supposed to mess me up so much or if she is just a part I should triple down on practicing. Plus some pointers from the players who are way better than me would be nice.

>>16516594
>Does anyone have any helpful tips for dealing with Marisa in general?
The stars have actually a smaller hitbox than they look.
Try to dodge like dodging a normal circular bullet and it'll work out most of the time. Team Border smaller hitbox also helps with that.

If you're having way too much trouble with Marisa and you can't hope to possibly defeat her, consider using Team Scarlet, and that's coming from someone who uses mostly homing.
They fight Reimu, who is much more easier than Marisa imo, and they themselves are a decent wide shot and an awesome focused shot, as the focused shot options (little spirit thingies that fire the shots) can be set in place (e.g directly in front of the boss) and do damage for you while you're busy dodging.
I consider it a "manual homing" shot of shorts.

Other than that, no, I haven't fought her many times myself because Marisa's fight is bullshit imo, so I'll just wish you to do your best and good luck with her.

>since I set starting lives up
Don't do that.
Like never again, you won't learn proper resource management that way. IN is already generous enough as it is.

>>16516714
Well, I can respect that you found a workaround in the game for unlocking stuff instead of just downloading a score file. I actually had to use more lives to beat Kaguya with MT and ST, so that's okay.
>Just wondering if Marisa is supposed to mess me up so much or if she is just a part I should triple down on practicing
Yes and yes. Is there something in particular that Makes Marisa harder for you that you noticed? Some people can't stand the way the stars behave etc. You could always watch a replay too

So I tried downloading MoF and it won't open because it says I'm missing "file d3dx9_31.dll". I've never had this issue before and any internet searches leads me to a bunch of vatniks and mexicans complaining about it, anyone know what this is and how to solve it ?

>>16516779
I'll set them back down immediately, thought it would be a good way to learn the stages but I can just do stage practice for that. I didn't realize the didn't have a hitbox equal to their size thank you for that. I'll give it some more tries and then do team scarlet if she is too much for me. Thank you very much!

>>16516828
Screen shake on Master spark messes me up but that's a practice thing. I run into things on non-directional laser which is again practice I believe. I seem to have trouble keeping up with all the things moving on Milky Way but it's mainly Earth Light Ray eating up bombs and lives, can't figure out how to do anything for it.

Gonna go give it some more tries, thank you both for the responses. Setting it down to default lives now, wish me luck!

>>16516861
Do you have DirectX installed?

>>16516861
DirectX End-User Runtime Web Installer

>>16516891
>>16516892
Not really, I don't think so, I'll try downloading it. Maybe it's because this is the first in the Modern Era games (At least according to Moriya Shrine.) and that's why Touhou 7-9 didn't give me trouble before ?
Granted, I didn't actually click the readme this time, maybe I should've.

>>16516891
>>16516892
Well, it worked. Doesn't help that I'm a 80 yro granny when it comes to computers, but hey, thanks.

>>16516237
HUGE input lag

>>16517531
>>16516310
Oh well, I guess I'll have to run 2 machines.
rip my electricity bill

>>16516594

Don't call it a 1cc if you increase the starting lives, especially in IN where you can set them so high. But still, congrats! Good luck on getting a proper 1cc eventually.

What do you guys think of the scoring systems in 2hu?
If you could change them, what would you change and why?

>>16518608
A 1cc is a 1cc.

>>16518879
Outside a games with score based extends what's the fucking point?

>>16519088
>Outside a games with score based extends what's the fucking point?

Holy shit here we go guys, brace yourselves

LoLK was bad

>>16519088
If you increase the default lives then no it isn't, it is more like a half 1cc or 1cc and a half.

>>16519088
Not really. Setting yourself more lives completely denies the point of 1cc.

>>16518879
As far as windows games go
>Top tier
PCB, IN
>Great tier
SA, UFO (2hard tho), GFW, MoF
>Ok tier
PoFV, DDC, EoSD, StB, DS
>Bad tier
LoLK, TD

>>16518879
As someone who only plays for survival, I don't have much of an opinion on it.
Just playing casually on Normal mode, by the time you've gotten all the resources in games where those resources are score-based, the game is almost over. It doesn't bother me that there is no longer any reason to collect points.
However, in games with different resource systems, I can get annoyed by scoring mechanics:
In UFO there's very little incentive to ever collect blue UFOs, so they just get in my way. You can get some colour changing UFOs if you fill a Blue or Rainbow UFO, but that's it. It's only useful when there are only Blue UFOs and no Green or Reds (mostly stage 6).
IN's Youkai/Human gauge is a great mechanic, but I wish getting Time orbs wasn't so dependant on it.

SA did it right, where grazing to fill your communication gauge is beneficial since it auto-collects items, but at the same time there's no point in that when you're at max power. It still FEELS good to graze, so it makes the game a little more fun.
I like PCB's borders a lot too, after learning some time after my first 1cc that you get more Cherry+ firing unfocused I find it a great risk/reward system.

>>16518879
2hu's scoring systems are fairly simple, but you can still do a lot with them. I don't have much experience with scoring myself, but I enjoy watching scoreruns in PCB, IN and SA Extra the most. I love aggressive grazing that doesn't force you to dump a bunch of resources on certain attacks.

I don't like how TD focuses so much on trancing and bombing for gray spirits and LoLK on bombing and dying constantly for graze in their main stages. Their Extra scoreruns, on the other hand, are more entertaining to watch.

>>16519562
>bombing for gray spirits
I didn't know about this, is there any video that shows some of this? I have yet to see Marisa's ending on that game

Is it me or Keine is harder than Marisa in lunatic?
I can barely pass thru the huge barrage of bullshit that her non spells are, some of her spells are too confusing too
Ironically tho, I just captured her last word in my first try, why can't be her fight like this damn.

>>16522831
Unfocus to kill some of the familiars

>I can 1cc UFO on Lunatic without using bombs.
>I can 1cc DDC on Lunatic without using bombs.
>I can 1cc LoLK on Lunatic.
>I can't 1cc TD on Lunatic.
What is wrong with me?
Why do I find TD so frustrating and boring?

>>16523200
Because you're not using Youmu

>>16522831
Keine is absurdly hard if you're using a youkai solo. If you're using a team like any normal person should, kill some of her familiars as a human.

In addition to that, Mystia's last nonspell is a forgettable attack that becomes one of the most difficult things to dodge on Lunatic for youkai solo shots.

>>16522831
I find the spellcard where the bullets come from the sides easier to dodge if you follow the bullets direction, and before reaching a wall, move to the opposite direction.

I finally did it /jp/! I got my very first 1cc on PoDD on Normal, so I don't think it counts
I was using Marisa.

I will resolve to train harder, and 1cc an actual mainline game.

>>16523444
Congratulations.
Any ideas on what you are going to 1cc next?

>>16523516
I've been doing pretty good at Lotus Land Story and HRtP, so I think I will do one of them next

I'm determined to finish the PC-98 games before moving onto windows

>>16523200
Because the resource system is crap

>>16523200
Because you're bad.

>>16523261
>Mystia's last nonspell
I have accepted the fact that this is a deathbomb, even some replay with 3b dies on that part. It probably is because of some scoring jank, but I have yet to see a Yuyu that doesn't bomb that shit.
>>16523305
This is a very nice idea, will try

Sorry, unrelated post essentially, but I'm almost desperately trying to find a song I remember that I saw on youtube where chen was in the thumbnail
The song is called something like "my room is a fantasy" or whatever.

help

>>16524242
What emulator are you using because all the screencaps you've posted look janked?

>>16524428
Im not the anon above, and I use T-98 Next, the issue in the pic was the settings ingame were corrput (Starting lives, difficulty etc.) It's fixed now.

>>16517552
You could just run a virtual machine.

>>16523803
Most of the times I die because I fall asleep.

>>16523717
The trance is a boring mechanic, but the lives you get with it are enough to clear the game.

I'm having a lot of trouble with LFS
Is there anything in particular to know about this card? Like when the circles overlap, is there an easier way to dodge them rather than going through them all at once when they open for a split second while staying under the boss?

>>16525878
You stay down in the screen and don't move that much. It will become more of a clusterfuck if you move too much.

I made a New Year's Resolution to try beating all the games on hard.

It's a week into February and I haven't even beaten the warm-up planned for those Hard runs (I'm the guy trying to beat DDC with Sakuya-B). I don't think I'm going to meet my resolution.

>>16526525
Play as Reimu B, I gave up trying to 1cc DDC on Lunatic with Sakuya B.

>>16526525
You sure like hurting yourself.

>>16526543
It's why I got into Touhou in the first place.

>>16526541
I'm only playing on Normal. I don't want to seriously invest into a Hard run until I can at least do this, because I've been told your first Hard 1cc usually takes about twice as long as your first Normal 1cc, and my first Normal 1cc took me more than a full year to get.

>>16526553
Care to post a replay of one of your recent attempts? Anon might be able to help you, if you're open to advice.

>>16526563
https://mega.nz/#!8VwwETQa!v6PFa01sER-6WzaR68RlpGYQBR4v5tuDk5XFCjl0sx8
Here are three replays for Stage 6 (I have only been practicing Stage 6 and nothing else for the last two weeks). Replays 23 and 24 are my best ones of all time, and Replay 22 is one that I did just now without resetting (I almost never make it to the Seija midboss without resetting) to show how much I have not improved since 23 and 24 despite practicing almost daily. I posted 23 and 24 before asking for help but nobody ever checked them out.

>>16526525
DDC Sakuya B normal is harder than most hard modos.

>>16526525
>DDC with Sakuya-B
>Hard
So you hate yourself

i never completed any 2hu games because they're too hard :(

>>16526553
Start playing on Hard and forget that Sakuya B 1cc.

>>16526601
Well, honestly, in terms of strategy these look good, but it seems that you struggle a lot with both accuracy and reading. Your execution of Inchling's Path had some scarily wide movements, and there's a lot of pre-planned bombs. I would suggest grinding spell practice more, and maybe looking into what kind of input device you are using (e.g. using an XBox 360 controller in any way would mean doing yourself a disservice).

Other than that I tried myself to capture the final spell card in spell practice and found out that it is pretty much best captured by going mostly up and down.

https://a.pomf.cat/zompur.rpy (just rename it)

my replay isn't very good though because I am bad at reading danmaku sideways, but it still looks pretty doable to me.

>>16526895
Scratch the advice about spell practice, I realised that all the hard stuff is in the nonspells. If you seriously can't progress then play a stronger shot type as suggested by others, and a higher difficulty would improve your skills faster overall (try dodging Kagerou on hard). Also check the settings executable, you might have input lag if it's not set to "fastest" instead of "auto".

>>16526664
>>16526887
I'll give myself another week to try and make marked improvement in Sakuya-B normal, and if I fail I'll move on to playing Hard in a different game.

>>16526895
>>16526984
Thank you for taking the time to look at them.
>you struggle a lot with both accuracy and reading.
I've always had a lot of issues with that. I'm not really sure how to improve it besides just continuing to play and getting better by doing it more. I play with a keyboard, but my hands are a bit shaky sometimes. Inchling's Path has always been one of the hardest for me, I get that you need to misdirect the bullets but sometimes RNG just really hates me and my actions end up biting me in the face when the path moves to where I directed the earlier bullets.

Truthfully I only have two real pre-planned bombs, one at the part where those six yin-yang disc things are all firing at once and one bomb planned for Seija's second card. Anything beyond that is me panic bombing (I panic bomb a lot during Shinmyoumaru's third nonspell).

>If you seriously can't progress then play a stronger shot type as suggested by others
I should note that I've already beaten DDC with Reimu-A a long time ago. I was playing through all the games a second time to prep for moving on to Hard, and thought to use a bad shottype to challenge myself more and better prepare for the difficulty leap, but all the people telling me what I chose is harder than playing on hard makes me feel I made a huge mistake.

>Also check the settings executable, you might have input lag if it's not set to "fastest" instead of "auto".
It was set to auto, thank you for pointing that out.

Are continues good for a beginner??

>>16527259
They're good for learning, yes, since they let you practice later parts of the game that you can't reach "legit." Feel free to use as many continues as you want, just don't think you've beaten the game if you defeat the final boss after using continues.

>>16527351
it's hard to find a balance, because I usually play more carelessly if I know I'll just use a continue

>>16527368
Huh, I always have the opposite issue. If I have a chance of actually making it I'm more likely to choke. It's possible for me to have nine lives entering Stage 6 and still lose because I get overwhelmed by panic and die repeatedly.

>>16518879
PCB IN and GFW are my favorite scoring systems, freezing is unexpectedly complex to do right.

PCB and IN have superb grazing in general too, very active grazing, manual grazing, whatever you wanna call it. EoSD has a few nice grazes but most of them are just "sit in safespot x that isn't really safe but it gives graze".

I could probably rant for a few days why PCB and IN have good scoring but I'd get RSI before I'm finished.

>>16527259
You beat the game when you reach the end, don't let >>16527351 tell you otherwise.

>>16527786
"Bad ending"
"Try clearing the game without continues next time!"
The game itselfs tell you that you didn't.

>>16527786

I apologize if it seems like I'm posting too many replays, but I have further questions about Inchling's Path and RNG.

https://mega.nz/#!0N5FxTAA!JkWFbQt5fjGVeSQQsrXpARkIemgB53GSioet0fVH85s

Here are two replays from Spell Practice. One of them has really favorable RNG and lets me capture the card easily because Sakuya-B can hit the boss with her full shot for almost the entire card. The other is a failed attempt where RNG pushes the path off to the side for most of it, causing me to only hit the boss with half my boss or even less.

Is there a way to manipulate the RNG for this card, like moving a certain way or being positioned a certain way will cause the path to shift in a certain direction? Or do I just have to pray that the card's path stays in the middle the entire time if I hope to capture it?

>>16514980
I was trying to do PCB but I ended up playing MoF.

Is there anything to scoring aside from try not to fucking die or let the faith meter go down? Another 100k points and I'd be celebrating victory over kanako right now.

>>16527259
They're good if you want to unlock stages for practice I guess.

>>16528895
There are parts where you can bomb and get more value in point cards than you would lose in faith. Hina's midboss card is a really good card to bomb for example, because even though you lose the spellcard capture bonus, if you defeat it early extra enemies appear and they drop tons of point cards. I'm not an expert on score though so I don't know many other places like that.

>>16529132
I figured something like this might be possible, but I wasn't sure.

I guess it would be prudent to watch a scoring run or two or three then, to find those spots.

>>16528895
Deathbombs do not cut your Faith, so a goal is to strategically deathbomb for extra Faith orbs from the bullet cancel. Don't do that in a survival run though, there's far beyond enough opportunity in the game to get score high enough for all the extends just by playing well (but normally).

>>16529272
Well I watched a score run where the guy exceeded my end score halfway through stage three doing that, then I watched some people commentate on MoF saying what you did.

I don't plan on deathbombing specifically for fun, but watching the video made me thinking about how I wasn't spacing out item collection and just POCing every time I wanted to collect. Additionally if I'm in a situation where I'm sure I'm going to have to bomb I might try running headfirst into the attack so I deathbomb instead.

I'd rather unlock stage 6 for practice and then outskill Kanako rather than load up on lives like I did for TD, but I can't do that without using someone else's save file or something of that nature.

>>16528895
Just the normal stuff. PoC when there's a lot of point items, capture spells, do what you already mentioned. If you PoC and go far enough below it before the point items reach you, they'll only give you about half as many points, but you probably know that already. To avoid losing a bunch of faith before bosses or long sections of nothing, don't PoC immediately; just collect items one by one as the faith meter gets close to running out and PoC when the last few items reach the bottom of the screen. You can collect a point item at full value without PoCing if you get it just below the PoC line, which helps with stalling out the faith meter.

Normal bombing decreases your faith by 3,000, while deathbombing doesn't lower it at all, but you should save your bombs for tight situations instead of going for score. You only need 150 million to get all the score-based extends in the game. Afterwards, score is pointless for a survival run.

>>16529343
>If you PoC and go far enough below it before the point items reach you, they'll only give you about half as many points, but you probably know that already.

I actually didn't know that.

Is that a constant in Touhou games?

>>16529349
This also happens for EoSD, PCB and IN. Afterwards, as long as you PoC, the point item value is maxed out no matter where you are on the screen.

It kind of happens in SA because the point item value decreases immediately if you leave the PoC without grazing, but the difference is so tiny that it doesn't even matter.

>>16529376
>point item value
By value, I mean the multiplier. You only lose out on like 0.03x if the point item is really far below the screen, which is very insignificant.

>>16529376
I'm a bit surprised DDC isn't on that list.

Also, these tiny bullets piss me off so much, I can't describe how mad I am right now. They're so hard to see. Stage 4 in general annoys me. I've gotten it into an acceptable state of 1 life lost but the stage in general is just unbelievably irritating.

>>16527111
>I've always had a lot of issues with that. I'm not really sure how to improve it

The best way to improve at reading patterns is practicing in a smart way.

Try to understand what went wrong.
Know what is the best place to look at, since some atacks require you to look at the middle of the screen.
Search for safe zones with your eyes, think of a route to get there, take into consideration the movement and speed of the bullets, and execute it.

>>16529376
Yeah, in some replays you might notice that when the character is right at the PoC, the point items collected at the top of the sprite are worth way more than the ones collected below it, which are colored in white instead of gold. In those games, where the point item value is directly proportional to how high the item was collected on the screen, it's not enough to just reach the PoC. If you want the maximum amount of points from point items, your entire sprite must be above the PoC.

For survival in PCB and IN, however, it doesn't matter where you collect them because extends are determined by how many point items you collected.

I've been struggling with 1ccing SA a lot so I went back to get some more 1ccs in the previous games. Playing through them I've come to the conclusion that honestly MOF is way easier than even PCB on normal, definitely the easiest of the windows games so far. I can practically do a no miss run up to Kanako without too much effort. It's the game I've spent the least time on too but now I have 3 1ccs in it. The bombing system is really just totally broken if you know what you're doing.

Anyways here's my chart, still pretty new to the games (I started late last November) but I'm getting there. SA is taking me forever to finish especially since I've been busy with school the past month. As it is I can only barely make it to stage 6 on my first credit and I still haven't beaten Okuu even with a ton of continue attempts.

>>16529334
> if I'm in a situation where I'm sure I'm going to have to bomb I might try running headfirst into the attack so I deathbomb instead.
if you want to do this keep in mind however that deathbombs only last about half as long as regular bombs in MoF

>>16529334
Moriyashrine has scorefiles if you're interested in that.

>>16530061
woa you did that in only 2 months?
Cheers man

>>16530061
I'm not sure if it's because I've played SA a hell lot but I can deal with this game much easier than most other Touhou games, even IN. On a good run, I can manage to lose only 1 life to Okuu and that's only because of Heaven and Hell Meltdown. The rest ranges between fairly hard (her first 2 spellcards) and "lol I can do it without my hands" (some of her non-spells). Had ZUN not included that rectangular safespot on her 3rd spellcard, Okuu would be terrifying. But she's just an average final boss in the end.

>>16530614
>rectangular safespot on her 3rd spellcard

>>16530666
Okay, I'll tell you.

The spellcard with the orbiting suns has a rectangular safespot right in the fucking middle where the suns appear to touch each other. Their hitboxes are smaller than they appear (but THAT much) and allow you to position yourself on the middle and stop giving much of a fuck about those giant balls, allowing you to concentrate on left and right movement to dodge the yellows. Don't go to far on either side or you'll end up in the hitbox of those nuclear balls.

>>16530711
Ah what a shame, for me that was one of the most challenging and better looking spells.

I don't get it
I'm trying to play hard modo on MoF and SA.
My best in both of them was reaching stage 5, but in MoF it only causes frustration while in SA I have fun and feel that I'm improving despite being the same progress overall

>>16530814
That's because SA is one of the best Touhou games while MoF is just an okay one. Also, it has one of the best final bosses when it comes to theme.

Also, just beat SA with Marisa B after a few tries.

>>16530850
Aaaaaand Reimu B is crossed off EoSD's 1CC program.

>>16531143
(replying to my own post again)
I still wonder what the fuck is up with me to be able to 1CC SA and EoSD but unable to deal with TD.

>>16531210
Those games are more enjoyable than TD.
I used to have that same problem.
Now I'm at the point where I'm unable to fill a single square in this chart, I feel I have hit a huge wall

>>16531255
NF?

Is it okay to Homing Shot Type?

>>16531323
Is it okay to vertical movement?

>>16531309
no focus
>>16531345
Hecatia with boots? Please leave.

>>16528205
If I recall there is no good way to redirect the bullets so that the gaps will always be advantageous. You can try going between the bullets in general; Reimu can do that fine at least.

>want to play PCB Hard
>start out pretty good, pulling off a few smooth moves and dodges
>I make it out of stage 3 pretty easily
>stage 4 and things start to become a little harder but nothing that huge. I have to use a small load of resources. I still manage to capture the final card fairly easily.
>stage 5
>stuff gets trappy as fuck
>first encounter with Youmu and I feel claustrophobic with her non-spell
>"oh this is bad"
>I run into bullet stupidly during the beginning of the boss fight, losing 2 bombs
>I don't make it out of the fight
Casual filter, huh?

>>16535043

>>16535051
My life. Even if you don't like it, I'll keep doing it. Even better: just because it bothers you hard-headed fucks, I'll keep doing it.

>>16535073
Are you okay anon?

>>16535043
Did you not play normal mode PCB before?

>>16535241
I did. 1CC'ed twice with Reimu B and Sakuya B. I just wanted to see how I could fare in the next level but it looks like I might not be up to it just yet.

>>16535043
But PCB is easy. Hell, it's the second easiest Touhou game.

>>16535252
>Hell, it's the second easiest Touhou game.
But it's actually the easiest windowsone
-Easy group
PCB
IN
EoSD
-Normal group
PoFV
MoF
DDC
TD
-Hard group
GFW
UFO
SA
LoLK

>>16535264
>EoSD
>easy
What? Switch with MoF.

>>16535264
Now do it again for lunatic difficulties

>>16535274
EoSD is easier than MoF.

>>16535264
>But it's actually the easiest windowsone
Sure, but I was counting PC-98. And LLS is pretty much 2hu for babbies.

>>16535274
No, he's right.

>>16535293
How?

>>16535630
The shots make it easier. While MoF has the bombs, all shots are relatively shit compared to the ones you get in EoSD, and EoSD pattern aren't that dense.

>>16535264
>EoSD easy
>GFW and UFO hard

Is Touhou 5 the hardest game to play as a pacifist that's possible?
I know pacifism is an unpopular way to play on /jp/, but I want to get a pacifist Yuuka run at least done on Normal.

>>16535252
no touhou game is easy unless you're jap tier

>>16537683
Get out you dumb scoring elitist!

>>16537581
I think LLS would be the hardest just by virtue of the Extra stage.

>>16535645

There's no way EOSD is easier than MOF on normal if you're using bombs right, most of the hard patterns become completely trivial. That said I think EOSD is actually second easiest after MOF for me personally.

>>16538311
>if you're using bombs right
So not at all?

>>16538456
but in both games you use tons of bombs for score

Using Team Border in IN normal, I'm having immense problems w/ Kaguya's last spellcard. Any tips maybe?

you guys told me len'en was shit but i didn't believe you until i played the 4th game
playing on anything above easy is impossible because of all the stupid gimmicks thrown at you like reversed controls or sliding around like it's an ice level
not to mention the weird patterns, enemies that shoot you with light speed bullets at point blank, and samey music and unmemorable character design
i'm sorry i didn't believe you
the first 3 games are alright though, save for the horrendous shot types

>>16538526
well now you know

>>16538505
For the very first part, go past the circular waves as soon as you think it's safe to.

When the volleys from the sides start, stay close to the middle line of bullets and stream one volley downwards, misdirect the next one by going further downwards, and then stream upwards. Then misdirect upwards, and stream downwards again.
If you do it right and RNG is kind to you, you should only have to dodge vertically in this phase.

When the lines start spinning, you have to dodge those lines while keeping up the up-down streaming. At this point it's a matter of getting used to it, in my experience, but luckily you're playing Border Team so your smaller hitbox should help you out here. Just keep practising, I don't think there's a trick to it in this phase.

>>16538505
Start with human. Kaguya doesn't take damage until at least 20 seconds are spent so might as well use this time to destroy familiars, making the spellcard much easier.
Otherwise >>16538841

>>16538874
>Kaguya doesn't take damage until at least 20 seconds
I've never noticed.
I guess I was wrong and there really is a trick to it.

I want this "Reisen makes LoLK easy" meme to stop. Having a larger hitbox and no iframes after being hit while still not being able to clean some bullets from the screens is not nice. Sanae's bomb is wonderful but that doesn't make the game not hard as fuck as well.

I want this "LoLK was good" meme to stop. Having a stupid gimmick forced down your throat is not good shmup design. Legacy mode is just an afterthought that's not fun or balanced in any way thanks to the wonky shottypes.

Dont do this

I want this "My opinion is a fact" meme to stop.

>>16538902
It's simple: the start of the card should be performed in human mode because destroyed familiars don't come back with this card. It's better to stay in the middle and dodge the static danmaku with left and right movement while streaming up/down to dodge the aimed shots. Change back to human whenever you get the chance (between each wave of aimed shots) to further damage/destroy the familiars. It ain't that hard.

>>16539364
What is the best strat for Lunatic? I've come up with one whereby I just go left and right, but if I accidentally try to cross at the wrong time it is pretty much impossible to recover without a bomb. I'm using the Scarlet Team.

>>16539376
I don't play Lunatic. Last time I played IN, I made it up to stage 6 in Hard mode but died before the boss. Can't help you.

>>16539382
No worries. In all honesty I wish IN had less memorisation; playing Lunatic just means you need to memorise more and in greater detail.

Man it really hurts Reimu to lose Yukari for her solo shot, or should I say that Yukari carriest the border team?

>>16539240
I don't think anybody says that. It's more like "Reisen makes LoLK easIER". Same deal with Sanae.

>>16539798
There's a lot of people saying that. Anyone with basic shmup experience will tell you that. Regardless of shot you can get over 20 lives and a lot of the situations can be learned in a way that makes them safe every time.

If people are having problems, they should start by pointing out what areas are giving them trouble so better players can actually help out.

Has anyone managed to get Imperishable Night to work with the Ultra patch?

Why is it always my worst runs I don't reset that I end up finishing? I did two clears of EoSD extra tonight and one of the two I ended up completing had a death to laevateinn because of a very careless mistake.

I hate it when I face a final boss with a normally sufficient amount of resources to easily take it on and then somehow lose the game because I don't have the reflex to deathbomb during the fight.

>>16543739
I haven't tested it but this was in one of the recent threads and should help you:

>>16435542
>Anyone got an unpatched th08.exe lying around? The Ultra patch only works on the original Japanese .exe, but all I have and can seem to find is a pre-patched version.

>>16436601
>http://ran.2hu.moe/yatrqo.exe
>Here you go, just rename it.

>>16543850
Aha, that did the trick! Thanks.

>>16543873
You're welcome

And there, I finally decided to get off my ass and 1CC TD. Okay it's done. God fucking damn this game is boring.

What the fuck is wrong with TD? In most games I can make it to the fifth stage without excessive practice but here I can barely make it past stage 2.

>>16544152
Because the beginning is so boring it puts you to sleep while playing, reducing your attention span.

Oh btw, anyone tell me what is the trick behind "Possessed by Phoenix"? I just captured the card in Spell Practice by using the top of the screen at first to reduce the number of on-screen bullet, then decided to make clockwise circles starting on the second flurry of bullets until the end. Is it the right way to do it?

>>16544129
Have you played the arrange version of TD?
It's a patch that changes the trance system a makes the game a little less boring.

>>16544157
Yeah that's how you do it.

>>16544157
>make clockwise circles starting on the second flurry of bullets until the end
I start at the bottom of the screen and stream up. It's way easier to do in my opinion if you get the timing down.

Best Touhou for a complete beginner ?

>>16546324
If you don't mind dated graphics/gameplay (and working a bit to get it work on Win10), the first one for Windows, EoSD. Then you continue from there. It teaches you the basics and it doesn't have notable gimmicks. The first five games (the ones for PC98) are best suited for someone who already has some experience.
Just don't become a SDMfag.

>>16546324
EoSD, PCB, IN or MoF.

It doesn't really matter too much which one you start with, just find one you like.

>>16546324

EoSD if you care about lore

>>16546324
EoSD is just about universally considered the best for beginners. I think the PC-98 games are also a decent starting point (though Touhou 1 is a completely different genre than every game to come after, keep in mind, the shmup games don't start until the second game), though the earlier games are less refined as you would expect and the continuity of PC-98 is different than that of EoSD and beyond.

>>16546324
LLS, PCB, IN and MoF

>>16546563
>the continuity of PC-98 is different than that of EoSD and beyond
Except that's not true. I don't want to derail the thread or anything, but ZUN himself has confirmed in multiple interviews that Win games take place in the same universe as PC-98 games, not to mention Alice and Yuuka referencing their past encounters with Reimu and Marisa.

>>16548846
You're going to derail the thread if you say things that have already been refuted a shitzillion times.

>>16549135
Just to throw in some of the more recent examples:

>AWA 2013
Q: Is PC-98 canon?
A: The world they’re set in is the same. However, when I first started making Touhou, I didn’t think I would keep making new games as long as I did, so I’m aware there may be some contradictions. In those cases, please take the latest games as more correct.

>Anime Expo 2016
Q:"Is the PC-98 series canon?"
A:"Yes."

I've already mentioned in-game references. I'm just tired of seeing folks spreading old as fuck misinformation. If people want to be ignorant or are too lazy to do the research, it's their problem.


Now let's shut up and discuss some gameplay.

EoSD is very simple mechanically but I don't think it has the best patterns for new players. Patchouli is always going to behave differently when trying different shot types and Sakuya's non spells wall you in unpredictably (especially new players that glue themselves to the bottom of the screen). There's also the fact that EoSD has a lot of spammy, seemingly random bullet patterns that are hard for new players to read (e.g. the fairies after Sakuya's midboss encounter, all of stage 4). Those patterns aren't really random, but they can be frustrating for new players nonetheless.

I think PCB is the better game for complete beginners overall. If you're really bad you can bomb the whole game to unlock all the practice levels by using all 5 continues and setting starting lives to 5. Don't actually practice with increased lives though, as you won't learn proper resource management. PCB doesn't have the surplus of spammy, micrododging, unreadable patterns like EoSD. PCB also comes with the visible hitbox out of the box.

Some people recommend IN as best for beginners and I honestly don't see how.

I completed the entirety of the fifth day in ISC before the fourth. Does anyone got any tips for the sixth scene on the fourth day?

>>16549547
>Some people recommend IN as best for beginners and I honestly don't see how.
It's a meme. One of those old dumb memes that really needed to stop a long time ago but never did, much like "IN is the easiest game".

Is Reimu C from Mountain of Faith the worst playable character ever?

I've already beaten the game on hard with all the characters but I just can't manage do it with her. Her shitty weak shot takes so long to finish Kanako's last spell that I end up losing 2, 3 or even 4 lives when I manage to get there with that many.

>>16551207
MarisaA is worse.

My games have suddenly capped themselves at 36fps

Is this a common problem?

Help

>>16550004
With or without items?

>>16551276
With
please don't laugh at me

>>16550305
But IN is easy on normal with Reimu/Yukari or Youmu/Yuyuko.

>>16550305
>IN is the easiest game
You have to remember the context for what most people judge to be easy, which is usually getting 1ccs on easier difficulties. Nobody playing IN for score would say it's the easiest game by any means.

>>16552257

Other than her last spell Kanako (and a large portion of the rest of the game) is made much much easier by the MOF bomb system, similarly in PCB if you're playing Sakuya then Yuyuko is mostly trivialized by having 4 bombs per life on top of the border system.

IN gives you a lot of bombs too but they're dropped in specific stages rather than being constant through the entire game like MOF with power-based bombs (and large quantities of power drops) or PCB with the border system and Sakuya having more bombs per life. Deathbombs also cost double so you run out more quickly if you're not always preemptively bombing cards.

>>16552257
As much I like Yuyu, her fight is easy. You pretty much get a shield after every attack, and every shot in PCB is good.
Kanako has nothing outside of mof.

>>16552513
Erin is much harder than Yuyuko but Erin and Kanako are almost on par with each other at least on Lunatic.

>>16552613
Not really, no.

>>16552731
Seconding this.

>>16552731
>>16552812

I really think Mokou is easier because spell practice makes it so much less time consuming to practice her spells.

>>16552891
There's some hitbox comparison image for bullets but I can't find it.

Knives can be mean in general, stay away from the handles too!

>>16553010
I've always felt like Phantasm was originally meant to be the original Extra, but ZUN needed to make another stage for the story to make sense, so he just made an easier version of Phantasm and slapped the Extra label on it.

He probably didn't do that, but PCB Extra is so easy and forgettable.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5UvGxolgqtk did this the other day, am i good yet?

>>16553176
It's alright. Welcome to the club if this is your first.

>>16553371

I think this is only a rumor, I just went into IN and tried to ram into an enemy and deathbomb and couldn't get it to only have me lose only one bomb (as border team) but then I went to EOSD (6f window) and was getting intentional death bombs pretty consistently. Do you have a good source for that information or a video of someone clearly deathbombing and only losing one bomb?

>>16552891
You could try the real hitbox patch to check.

>>16553403
Not him but I've gotten the normal death bomb plenty of times in IN as border team. You can tell because it doesn't change partner and flip the youkai gauge.

>>16523444
It counts, but of all games, why PoDD?

>>16554127
I still have not beaten SoEW for that reason. It didn't feel very fair, especially in contrast to later games in the series. I always thought ZUN had went out of his way to make his games fair yet challenging and never felt he threw anything at me that he didn't give me warning or time to react to. Take Patchouli for example: her first non-spell slowly adds layers making it more difficult, rather than just all at once, and after her first spell when she does it again, it's another variation of the same pattern only more difficult and without the training wheels. There are some exceptions here but for the most part I think ZUN does a good job with making at least normal difficulty fair.

I always found learning new touhou games enjoyable for that reason but SoEW just kept killing me to bullshit that I could not of been aware of unless I had been prepared for it. It will probably be the last game I complete because I don't find it fun and it's a shame because I like it's soundtrack.

>>16554227
I had enough at the stage 3 boss where every single one of their bullet patterns was a gotcha moment, and that was after having enemies slam into me from the bottom of the screen prior to that.

>>16554688
Thank you for this info, I was not aware of that formula or that it was variable at all.

>>16556531
You can use the safespot on her head to clear those without having to dodge them.

>>16556531
Here's the safespot and how to dodge them together in the same replay: http://www.replays.gensokyo.org/download.php?id=37195

>>16516237
Input lag can be somewhat fixed by changing from "automatic" to "fast" in config.exe.

I say somewhat because there's still a bit more lag in some games, like DDC. In others, it runs just as good as in Windows. I use wine staging + winetricks, and also i3wm for perfect full-screen in all games.

I'd rather stick with windows 7, but I blew my installation and for now I need to stick with Linux. I have a pirated copy of Windows 10, but it runs WORSE than wine in some cases, not sure why.

>>16554688
I knew about this already but wasn't going to bother adding it when the main point was about the time to deathbomb with a regular bomb (which is always one frame), not particularly the different total deathbomb periods.

Anyone know the name of the font that was used in the 1cc chart template or willing to upload the file for gimp, indesign, psd or whatever was used to make it?

>>16559941
And if you go through it the only letters even missing are GQZ.

>>16559941
>>16560198
>>16560287
grey for stuff i made up that seems right

Touhou 16 when?
LoLK was released in May 2015 right?

I bet /jp/ makes game ready before th16 will come out

never

>>16562741
Pretty much what >>16562774 said, except for the Extra boss part. That's going to be a newhu.

>>16562907
t. shotty, once again, trying to prevent videogame talk with his shitposting

>>16563172
Nobody wants to play as your kuso waifu SAmireko

>>16563172
>>16563185
Please leave. I don't know what your deal is but I think it's best that you take it off the jay.

>>16539240
I can't get past Seija's mom with any character other than Reisen, yet Reisen on LoLK was my very first 1cc.
Reisen makes the game EASY.

>>16563185
Nobody wants your kuso opinions and reaction pics either, shotty.

Got the flu but still managed to easily 1cc IN with MT and just finished my 1CC series of SA. I'm thinking about "starting" to go Hard mode, though last time I tried, I failed on stage 6 of IN.

>>16562774
>Sumireko
I really don't want it to be this but it probably will be this.

HI, I recently just got into this game series and started off embodiment of scarlet devil.

I'm stuck on stage 5 normal without dying or bombs.

>>16563877
If you're good enough at the previous stages, it's okay to die or bomb a couple times in Stage 5.

>>16563885
How do I into pixel dodging? I can't fit in between the holes of sakuya or get in the sides of her knives

>>16563907
>don't get the the hit box patch

fudge

>>16563916
If you already got it, that would explain why you keep messing up pixel dodging. Don't feel too bad, I fell for it too when I got into the series, just delete the game and redownload it fresh without the patch if you don't have a backup of it before patching it.

>>16563908
I wrote that because some people thought that PD was going to come back.

We need 4 playable characters at least.

>>16564320
3 playable characters with two shottypes each > 4 playable characters with one shottype each

I do think 3 with two each is better than 2 with three each, though.

>>16564348
Basically this. I care more about shot variety and how useful a shot is than the one using the shot.

>>16564348
I agree but think bigger, 4 characters with 2 shots or 3 with 3.
Charactaters with only 1 are acceptable but only if they are a lot like in IN

>>16564406
He can barely balance 3.

>>16562128
Look for a demo possibly coming Reitaisai. ZUN has dropped several hints in interviews that suggest a new game, and Reitaisai comes around the 4~5-month mark where you'd expect him to be close to finishing.

DDC Sakuya-B anon here, I didn't make any real progress in the last week so I decided to drop it for now like many anons suggested. I decided to go back to the hell that was trying to beat Ran as a newbie, and in my first serious run (serious being "didn't reset before the boss and didn't lose 3+ lives after not giving a shit about resetting") I already got to the spellcard Chen. It's not the hell I was remembering at all, and I might actually make progress on it this time. I think the change of pace was good this time, thank you for getting me to pull my head out of the sand and stop being so stubborn for once.

I even captured Princess Tenko on my first try, something I never did once during my attempt as a bigger scrub than I currently am. Maybe it was all the practice I put into beating Murasa's survival card in UFO that let me do it.

>>16565231
There's a patch for EoSD that alters Reimu's and Marisa's sprites to include a static hitbox. It's a noob trap, though, because it was poorly made and the maker didn't bother to actually line up the hitbox with the sprite.

>>16564749
Like TD or LoLK, but everyone gets an A shottype and a B shottype like in UFO and DDC.

>>16565286
>The focus only one
That's definitely not what I'm referring to, I didn't know that was a thing. It just changed the sprite, in-and-out-of-focus.

>>16565332
>>16565406
You be the judge

0/300.
What's up with this card? Am I just shit?

>>16565400
God fucking damnit I lost my mojo and I'm fucking up like I was when I was a rookie again. My next serious run (I get about one serious run per hour of attempts because I'm really fucking bad at Touhou and Chen's Extra nonspell is the easiest attack that I have under a 10% clear rate for because I'm that fucking bad at reading gaps) started off great and I got my first NMNB of the stage section ever because of your tips on Onis. Oni God actually isn't that bad if you know about the safespot in the bottom left corner, I have like a 25% completion rate, which is high for me on this stage. But goddamn, once I hit Ran everything I did well the last run (by well I mean I was bombing instead of dying) disappeared.

I didn't even save the replay even though I should have because I was so mad at myself. I should just continue torturing myself with DDC Sakuya-B because at least the pain of a failed attempt has numbed there and it doesn't take an hour of attempts to get to the meat of the run. I just can't take the endurance required for Extra stages.

>>16565882
I assume you're talking about popping the summoned UFOs late and not the tokens. Someone was going to mention hugging the tokens, I'm sure.

As far as I know it's luckshit.

>>16565882
You can manipulate when UFOs leave the screen by staying close to them.

>>16565448
The mechanics and bullet patterns are horrible.

>>16565237
>>16565286
>>16565406
>>16565512
Drake here, I'm actually interested in this. I haven't endorsed any hitbox patches in years, but actually I wasn't even aware there was a position difference with jisakujien's runtime patch. I made my thing in late 2008 when I was a total scrub, and being a total scrub I just lined the graphic up with the sprite and just trusted that the hitbox makes sense. I know for certain that Reimu's moving sprite is wrong because you can run against the sides and the hitbox graphic shifts; Marisa's is consistent iirc.

That being said, it's pretty common for developers to have the hitbox slightly off from the center of sprites without an indicator graphic. I wouldn't be surprised if aligning it with the sprite was incorrect, and I expect that it would be easier for jisakujien to programmatically center the sprite on the exact player position. However, looking into it now, wedging into the corner doesn't quite match up. In the game you aren't able to move into the exact corner of the screen, but it is exactly 8 pixels from the sides and 16 from the bottom. Attached is where jisakujien's lines up with that position, which seems to suggest his hitbox is one pixel off to the right. Meanwhile my Marisa sprite doesn't have this issue.

Perhaps my old Marisa sprite is the only one that's actually accurate?

>>16566233
I think you're right. That seems consistent with what I've just experienced in game playing around in cheat engine. I don't think jisakujien released the source code otherwise I'd fix it and the fullscreen crashing.

Regarding Ran:
>Shikigami's Radiance "Fox-Tanuki Youkai Laser"
Try to stay under her. Wait for the initial burst and the laser bullets coming out of the lasers' spawning points, then move to the other side of those points by moving between 2 of those. That should prevent you from getting trapped.

>Shikigami's Radiance "Charming Siege from All Sides"
Stay under Ran whenever possible, because this card is stamina-consuming on the long run. Predict the path of the red bubbles and stay inside the "cage". Do not hesitate to move up to squeeze between two bullets that will enclose on you.

>Shikigami's Radiance "Princess Tenko -Illusion-"
Easy card. Move in a rectangle. Start whereever you can, then try to do the following: redirect the burst, then stream downwards to deal max damage. Redirect the next shot and go upwards. Then redirect again and stream downwards. If you fail this one, you probably shouldn't be playing this mode, and I'm saying this as a Normal shitter.

>"Kokkuri-san's Contract"
Whatever you do, stay inside the cage. Also, the cage has a smaller hitbox than it appears to. Try to use this to your advantage when the dodging gets intense (= the butterflies appearing).

>Illusion God "Descent of Izuna Gongen"
Apparently there's a safespot if you redirect but I'd say it is better to go raw unless you absolutely know how to make it. At this point, only your knowledge of the various hitboxes can actually help you. Just DON'T stay stuck at the very bottom of the screen or you WILL get walled.

http://replays.gensokyo.org/download.php?id=42458

Fuck my life.
First time I had gotten past the cage too.

>>16567548
Watching my replay made it even clearer (and more painful) what my true mistakes were.
Useless bombing certainly hindered me but my one true mistake was that misstep during "Boundary of Life and Death" which probably cost me the run.
Though I don't know yet the final card nor how it reacts to bombs so I can't say for sure.

>>16567548
>>16567636
Pic related. Okay, you were good, but you fucked it up with Ran.
>>Shikigami: Ran Yakumo
All bullets are aimed, so keep that in mind.
>1: When Ran is in the left or right side of the screen, you go there (if the middle is X=0 and screen is 2X long, you move +-X/2), but STAY DOWN.
>2: When she tries to hit you, you return to the center quickly STAYING DOWN.
>3: When Ran's butterflies come, you just move a bit up to avoid them.
>4: Ran wil go to the next wall, so do Step 1 in the oppsoite direction.
All this while avoiding Yukari's shit. Hope it helps.

>>16567687
Oh I see. So you mean I should stay under Ran when it(?) goes to the side to stay safe from the drawback? But isn't this gonna make the card awfully long, or even force me to time it out?

>>16567687
Shamefur dispray of mine.
In pic related, You stay at the center, and when Ran is where the yellow blur is, you move near the red blur.

>>16567706
>>16567698
After that, just when she throws herself at you, return to the center and move up to avoid her aimed butterflies.

>>16567698
>>16567687
Dunno why I didn't do this.
http://replays.gensokyo.org/download.php?id=42459

>>16566233
I looked into this a little more and started playing around with the game files. I also let rumia shoot at me for a little bit with her timer frozen and the ultra patch on.

PCB's hitbox seems consistent with the issue you found with jisakujien alignment being one pixel off. Correct me if I've made a mistake here but if that's the case, PCB's is also one pixel off. PCB also uses the same graphic for all characters regardless of the fact that they have different sized hitboxes.

It turns out the hitbox sprites themselves in the games are actually an even number of pixels. That is to say they do not align center with any single pixel like you were trying to do by using the corner. The whitespace in PCB's hitbox sprite is actually a 4x4 square; this is exactly the same dimensions as all 3 hitbox patches. In the screenshots that both of us took, it looks like the game renders this whitespace as a 3x3 square. I think this is only because the game is rotating the hitbox graphic, and is reason jisakujien looks off center against the corner in some frames.

I'm concluding that jisakujien's patch is accurate. I didn't test the other hitbox patches again, so I'm not sure if those are still "wrong".

Here are the screenshots of rumia shooting at me: https://files.catbox.moe/2hoe06.rar (a very fitting random name generated by catbox)

>>16514980
Cirno can freeze bullets in PoFV? Earlier today I was playing and shit froze on my screen.

I think I've finally hit the point where I decided I want to actually get good at this game. I have a couple 1cc's on normal, but I decided it might be a decent idea to get some unlockers and try some easy mode stage 6 bosses for practice. Assumedly this probably would apply at arguably the same rate for other practice stages on varying difficulties, but for the moment I've been sticking with that.

So far it seems to actually work fairly well. It has a decent way of throwing reasonable difficulty at me constantly, without overwhelming me, which with a difficult game such as Touhou, I'm sure everybody knows it's perfectly capable of throwing sudden curveballs, in various ways, not only difficulty.

>>16572296
I think moriyashrine has a collection of unlockers also if you're missing some.

>>16572261
>but I decided it might be a decent idea to get some unlockers
Shameful.

>>16573887
I'm only human, anon.

>>16573923
The Normal version? Ultra or no Ultra?

>>16573943
Ultra of course! You shouldn't have to ask!

>>16573952
Ultra turns this card into a nightmare, those double bullet walls really mess things up.

I did it pretty easily without Ultra, but there's no way in hell I'm getting that webm under 3mb. Have this instead.

>>16573999
What compression settings did you use with that one? Just put it on one of the pomf clones if it's too big.

>>16574031
I set the bitrate to 250Mbps; it wasn't small enough at 500 or 1000, and even at 250 I had to cut off ffmpeg prematurely. But to be honest, I'm a major pleb when it comes to encoding, so there's probably a lot I'm doing wrong.

https://sendvid.com/jzg7oacp

Yuyuko Rainbow Danmaku capture, no Ultra.

I love Doremy.

>>16516237
I play almost exclusively on WINE, works on my machine.

>>16574073
Very nice

>>16573999
Kaguya's spells are so beautiful man

>>16574181
>>16574209
Thanks! I've actually been getting into maining Yuyuko solo lately, since Yuyuko is one of my favorite characters.

>>16574202
True.

>>16574229
>I've actually been getting into maining Yuyuko solo lately, since Yuyuko is one of my favorite characters.
Best taste and best motive.

>>16574633
Play it however you want to play it and don't listen to him.

>>16574633

Why don't you just unlock those things through practice? Why do you need to practice stuff you're not even good enough to unlock?

>>16574922
Practicing above your skill level is a good way to improve. Also, some games basically require you to beat them to unlock everything. If you can unlock stage 6 of MoF for practice, for instance, you're pretty much good enough to 1cc. Ditto for UFO and SA.

>>16574931

I suppose for those games that's a good point, it is actually harder to beat MoF for instance off a continue since it's relatively easy to get to Kanako with more than 3 lives. And having to get to stage 6 of SA/UFO every time you want to practice it (and only getting 3 lives each time) until you beat it is kind of annoying. Still though, I feel like doing that is more useful practice than just practicing stage 6 in practice mode, especially in SA/UFO.

>>16574957
SA and UFO are somewhat of a special case in my opinion because I actually find stage 5 harder than stage 6 in both of those games, at least from the standpoint of Lunatic. Those pagoda spellcards in UFO stage 5 in particular take a long time to master.

>>16574878
If you downloaded EoSD and the files names were in japanese it should work just fine.
If the files names are gibberish you need to find a download link with the japanese files.
I'm sorry anon, but I can't remember were I downloaded my game I think it was on some chinese website.

I really want to upload a replay of Ran to get advice but I can't get one that lets me capture Tenko, and I'm not uploading a replay where I can't capture Tenko. Why the hell can't I capture Tenko? I know exactly how to do it, I've done it before, but ever since anon told me I shouldn't play Extra if I can't capture Tenko I have not done it once since. I keep fucking up Ran's first spellcard now too, something I used to not do, it's like Ran is getting close to me and shooting off the cloud of bullets so close that it ruins the rhythm.

Finally cleared Ran with every shot/unlocked Yukari for everyone!

>>16575417
Congrats, anon.

>>16575398
I don't even know where to begin to give advice to people this bad at Touhou. Maybe it's easy for me to say but those spellcards are trivial to capture.

If you are really struggling with a specific spellcard watch a replay and/or use spoileral.

>>16575557
I honestly didn't consider myself that bad at Touhou before. I've managed to 1cc all the games on Normal, not counting LoLK Legacy since the difficulty in that game is hugely spiked up. I just don't know what to do now that I've hit this wall. I can't beat DDC Sakuya-B, which means I wouldn't stand a chance in Hard Mode, and I can't beat the easiest Extra stage which means I wouldn't stand a chance on any actually hard Extra.

>>16575578
I think Froggy is easier than Ran. Her stage is easy and her only two threats are the two survivals, but with Ran you have a somewhat difficult second-half of the stage, Charming Siege, Kokkuri-san and Illusion God.

>>16575578

I've said it before but Mokou is easier than Ran in my opinion, maybe try that? Spell practice makes all the difference.

>>16575557

Don't be a dick, no extra stage is "trivial". You have a very slanted viewpoint if you think that.

>>16575578
>I can't beat DDC Sakuya-B, which means I wouldn't stand a chance in Hard Mode
Anon, we have been over this already.

>>16575695
Yeah I know, what bothers me the most is that you were 3 seconds away from a timeout (safest option)
Just practice anon, you'll be eventually be able to do it.
The ultra patch has 4 bubbles bouncing around, 1 just sits there though

https://mega.nz/#!04l2ADrR!EfPE4gbRqc8a43kSsnH42Q1crwJwAhZa1u0txsirvCc

>>16572261 here. Decided to give some more rounds today and pleased with the result; very nearly beat Stage 6 SA easy without dying. That's not so bad for me.

>tfw died right about at the end, right before I was about to do it

Advice, criticisms, etc. welcome

>>16575637
>two survivals
wtf how the hell is she considered easier?
I should try this shit up

The Ultra version of this card was pissing me off, so I cheated.

>>16575130
Do you have the Ultra patch working?

>>16575711
I wonder why isn't ultra mode a thing in dem charts

>>16575726
Probably because it makes some spellcards pretty much impossible.

Then again, games like DoDonPachi and Mushi have borderline impossible attacks too, but there's a scoring scene for them anyway.

>>16575726
Ultra patches make the games an unbalanced mess. Some attacks become virtually (or even literally) impossible to dodge and others become a joke because of the max bullet cap.

PoFV Ultra though is pretty fun, but that game was already an unbalanced mess.

>>16575750
The earlier games do work a little better than the later games, since they're more raw danmaku and less of the more gimmicky attacks. It kinda sucks that some of the later ones are almost unplayable. Doremy is one of the easiest and most fun bosses in LoLK once you figure out her spellcards (and before you hit Ultramarine Lunatic Dream), but with Ultra she throws out stuff Seija couldn't dodge.

Suwako is no fun
I feel like her spells are more about discovering a fixed way to do them instead of dodging away

>>16575637
>you have a somewhat difficult second-half of the stage
Actually, I have almost a 100% clear rate on the second half of the stage when I get to it. I have a higher clear rate on that half than the first half, since Chen's nonspell ends 90% of my runs.

Raiko is my favorite extra boss.

Suwako being the easier extra boss is a meme and I fell for it

>>16575794
And now that I've posted that I've failed the second half of the stage twice in a row. I think I'm cursed, whenever I say I can do something I stop being able to do it.

>>16575828
Go counter clockwise on that one. Let her summon a few rings, and as soon as they start dropping go to the right of the screen, and wait for her to start sending them that way. Continue, and watch out because they do rebound off edges, but at an angle.

>>16575849
What about this?

>>16575861

>>16575828

>>16575842
I have had a 0% completion rate for the second-half of the stage, like 0/5, since I posted this. Goddamnit.

In the three straight hours of practice I just did I only reached Ran one time. I really should just go back to playing DDC with Sakuya-B. It seems easy by comparison.

Nitori's midboss spell card in MoF is crazy! I don't even trust myself to deathbomb it because it confuses me so much. It's like one shining blob of geometry. How do you people get good at it?

>>16575931
You burn down really quick anon
Also 3 hours sessions? my my

>>16576076
I usually have much better stamina, which is why I played Sakuya-B DDC for so long, but now that I've officially quit a challenge by quitting Sakuya-B DDC I feel like I could just quit everything. I'm not feeling my stubborn drive to keep playing no matter how much I hate it anymore.

>Also 3 hours sessions? my my
Is that not normal? I always play in huge batches, only time I cut it short is it I have something urgent to do or if I make progress. I haven't made any progress in anything related to Touhou since 2016.

Oh well, I got to Suwako's first survival card, I'm started to understand this "easiest extra" business
>bullets spawning where you are
Dirty.

>>16574878
Did you get it working? Did you run niL's patcher with applocale so it can find the exe and not a mojibake representation of it? You can also use the ultra patch with Neko or SpoilerAL if you don't want to actually patch the game or still can't get it working.

>>16575711
>Do you have the Ultra patch working?
Yes, I have the Ultra Patch that changes the game a lot.

I might upload the patched game somewhere later today.

Should I try extra too after completing the game in normal? I've completed 3,one of which is a fighting game. Sorry Im new to 2hu.

>>16576859
To get fullscreen working properly you need to open your graphics card settings, or your intel integrated settings if you have none, and set the scaling to be preformed on the gpu instead of the monitor. Make sure you select the aspect ratio option and not the stretch and it will open letterboxed like it's supposed to.

>>16576598
Nope. I play on WINE, so I'm not sure how I could get applocale to work.

>>16577429
I would appreciate that a lot.

>>16578623
Try launching the patcher with the
LANG="ja_JP.UTF-8" option.

>>16576095
Man, if I only did a single run at a time I'd definitely never make progress.

>>16578650
>>16578679
Still didn't work, can you upload it? No auto deathbomb, please.

>>16579111
Something's wrong with uguu
https://f.lewd.se/I1kYPn_kouma.tar.gz

>>16579111
Wow, that download speed is brutal. Thanks, though.

>>16579187
This one is even worse.

>>16579195
Sorry. lewd.se was fine for me when I just tested it. Never had issues before with those uploaders or any pomf for that matter.

>>16579214
The download finished, but I can't seem to get it to launch now. I suspect it might just be a WINE problem.

Oh, looks like I was just using the wrong syntax. Thanks, anon!

>>16579264
LANG="ja_JP.UTF8" wine 東方紅魔郷.exe
or
LANG="ja_JP" wine 東方紅魔郷.exe

is the right launch command

>>16579315
Turns out I had it in the wrong order, I was doing wine vpatch.exe LANG="ja_JP.UTF8"

>>16578477
>set the scaling to be preformed on the gpu
Never seen such option
>>16577299
You mean editing the .ini file? Because it doesn't work sadly

>>16579347
It's in that order because it's a temporary environment variable instead of a launch parameter. I think it works if you run it as two separate commands too.

>>16579395
Makes sense. I figured it was a WINE option rather than a shell variable.

I'm liking this patch so far, it makes EoSD a lot more difficult, but not in an unfair/impossible way.

>>16579412
I only have these and none of them do the job.
I can play by cloning the display between monitors, but that defeats the purpose.

>>16579479
It's pretty fun for grazing. I've only 1ccd normal with it though.

>>16578007

I'd just stick with normal clears for now, at least until you get to SA (if you're doing the mainline games in order)

>>16577800
150 million gives you the last extend.

Is LoLK the absolute hardest?

>>16580274
Depends what you're good at, which shot type you use, and what you're going for. If you know how to strategically spam bombs with Sanae or Reisen, it can be one of the easiest. If you're the type that always goes for spell card bonuses, it's up there.