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So we've got Sean Connery as Kinzo.
Hugh Grant as Rudolf.
But who could truly portray Krauss of the Nightly Rapings?

>>16294899
>edited image of Rosa with a character of other series
>"I Already told you to stop that [insert line of dialogue from character here] thing"
>#WhenTheSeagullsLaugh

>>16294990
>But who could truly portray Krauss of the Nightly Rapings?
If we're going full-on British, let's get some HP stars. Kenneth Branagh is an amazing actor and with the right wig, as you can see, how could definitely be Krauss

>>16294885
>>16294990
Sean Connery retired years ago, so it's too late for that

>>16295031
Can we not?

BUT WHO WOULD BE CUTE AND SEXY TO PLAY LAMB?

>>16294990
>>16295042
Speaking of Nightly, how about Keira Knightley for Shannon/Kanon? She's flat as an ironing board and could portray both genders easily. The trick would be how they'd do it without letting everyone know they're the same person? Add it into the narrative that they're twins, and then it actually turns out they're the same person?
Still as shit of a twist as the actual one so it could work.

>>16295055
Lambda's type of charm cannot be properly captured in 3D

As someone who knows nothing of cinema, I feel pretty lost.

>>16295055
>>16295083
A blonde Anna Kendrick maybe?
I dunno man, a lot of these young-looking characters are gonna have to become older for these adaptations. Child actors are shit and could never convey Lambda or Bern, or Erika.
Actually, now that I think of it, who was that girl from the Twilight films? I've never seen them but isn't she known for basically showing no emotion at all, ever? Perfect for Bern.

>>16294885
Umineko pretty much relies on the vn medium to actually work, pretty sure it would be impossible to bring it to a visual medium without completely missing the point.

>>16295113
The manga did a pretty good job of it.

>>16295108
Bern Lambda and Erika aren't children anyway, so it's fine. Erika should be around 16.

If this ever gets made, you know they're gonna get people of different skin colour in there. Now, I don't have a problem with that. I just wonder who they'd replace.
You can't have it be one of the servants, or there'd be trouble. And no one in the family could be black either.
Either Gohda or Nanjo would be black in these films. My guess is Nanjo.
It'd sure be a shame sir, if after all that cotton-pickin' my ancestors did for my old friend Kinzo, who treated them well mind you, very well. It'd sure be a darned shame if I'd have to end a life after having saved sooooo many. Now pull your trigger, n*gger, lessee who's faster, yo gun or mah needles!

>>16295135
True, but some fans would be caught up in the whole fact that they look young.
And I'd love to see a 16-year-old actress portray Erika. If she pulls that off, she has got a shining fucking career ahead of her.

>>16295142
Isn't Genji canonically foreign? wouldn't he be the best bet? Then again making the token minority a servant might not sit well with western audiences.

Which scene you are more anxious to see in the movie?

>>16295152
That's my point, yeah. There'd be trouble if Genji was a minority. It'd have to be either Gohda, a foreign chef, or Nanjo, a foreign doctor. But not the head servant, or Kumasawa, and DEFINITELY not the younger servants.

>>16295168
Bart jumping out of Kevin's window has always been a favourite scene of mine. Just for the live-action part that'd be brilliant.

The discovery of the bodies in the shed in EP1 or the Halloween Party in EP2 are definitely highlights as well and I'd love to see those.

Also, of course:
Ushiromiya Kyrie cannot save Battler

>>16295142
>And no one in the family could be black either.
One of the cousins could be mixed race if their parent that married into the family was black. That could work

>>16295192
That could only be Hideyoshi then.
Couldn't have it be Rosa's husband, who left her.
Couldn't be Kyrie because she's evil.
Can't be Natsuhi because of the constant rants that she'll never be a true Ushiromiya.

See, it's harder than you think.
Hideyoshi works, they could even keep him Japanese and keep his Sengoku Era knowledge character trait intact.
Then have a black Nanjo and a Hispanic Gohda. I think that passes the Hollywood test.

They could always give Beatrice an Italian flavour since she's Italian in the first place.

I'd love a Fresh Prince of Bel Air approach where the Ushiromiyas are all black

>>16295314
>Jaden Smith as Battler

Has anyone else tried out the full PS3 port of Episodes 1-4 yet? It's pretty cool.

>>16294885
I almost had a heart attack and thought this was real for a second.

>tfw you wouldn't expect less from Hollywood

>>16295142
inb4 they make Batler black

Summarize Umineko in one image.

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>>16296056

>>16296056

DIS A DUMBASS THERAD AN YOUZE A DUMBASS BIT

AINT NO GD SEACATS IN LA

>>16296056

>>16295042
Why not Harry Potter himself then?

What are your personal interpretations of Bernkastel's origin?

>>16297022
I always assumed she was saikoroshi-hen's Rika

>>16294542
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o_rsuP8CmfU [Embed]
With this song, specifically the part at 2:27

>>16296056
captcha was 'grimoire'

>>16296056

>>16296056
.

just finished this
how the fuck did Midori get voted #1 character?
she had like hardly any screentime and didn't do anything except be a delusional idiot

I found sakutarou

>>16297924
She had the best story in Higanbana.

>>16297924
What did you think of it?
Is there an English patch for the entire thing?
I have a physical copy of the first two episodes but I can't find the rest in English besides the manga.

>>16297990
He looks like he's been well-loved. Good for him.

>>16297468
Fits perfectly, I love it.
I just love the idea of an over-the-top Umineko Hollywood trailer with the guy who always does the THIS SUMMER voiceover.

>>16298120
there's only 2 episodes
and yeah it's all translated by spider lily

>>16297990
Christ, that's horrifying

>>16297022
She is like a branch that sprouted from the being of Furude Rika. Rika wandered about aimlessly for so long that Bernkastel was born in the meta world in order to compete with Lambda, find all the pieces and finish the game. She's still nameless at the time though.

In the end, Saikoroshi-hen, Rika names her time-jumping self Bernkastel. However I, nor anybody else really thinks of that particular Rika as Bern. Time-jump Rika is just Rika. The Rika born in the meta world must have seen this name and taken it for herself then, and she becomes the one we recognize as Bernkastel. Bern slips away with Lambda and lives for who knows how long in the meta world of witches until one day she finds Beatrice's world.

The meta world is the world of fiction, stories written and read by witches. For Bernkastel to be born originally, perhaps somebody in a prime universe wrote a story about events taking place in Hinamizawa. I don't really want to connect the structure of Higurashi and Umineko too much though.

I forget, did Rika sign her poems with "Bernkastel" before Saikoroshi-hen? Because that doesn't really make much sense.

>>16297924
Even though we all know mein fuhrer Yukari is the best.

>>16298138
all of the poems were signed "frederica bernkastel"
Bernkastel was born because Hanyuu/Featherine took all the negative emotions Rika was holding and turned them into a physical being
this allowed Rika to live life normally again after matsuribayashi

>>16298067
>She had the best story in Higanbana
but that's not Aya

>>16298150
I don't think Hanyuu did anything like that. The dialogue I posted, the intro to Minagoroshi is where Bern is first introduced. And she says she's been around pretty long. At the time Hanyuu was being an idiot stomping around and apologizing, she only grows a spine at the end of minagoroshi when the culprit is revealed. I don't think she created Bern. Nor Featherine who became absent during the game, causing the need for Bern in the first place.

Bernkastel was said to be Rika's negative emotions somewhere, you're right. But I don't think they were "taken away" from Rika. Afterall, Rika still has her many memories of the dark years of despair. You can't really just take someone's emotions away, if the memories still remain. The point is that she chooses to be happy rather than despair. Not that it was physically taken away.

>>16297022

She is what happens after 1 hour of Nipah.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3wVEg5-ihEs

>>16295748
I don't have the [LOVE] in me to replay umineko for another time

>>16296056

Got it. Johnny Depp as Ronove.

>>16299097
Perfect.

>>16299097
Would that make Gaap Helena Bonham Carter?

Clive Owen you make a good Rudolph.

>>16299097
Literal perfect casting.

>>16299124
That could work. She could also be a great Beatrice I think, if she looked a bit younger. But I suppose Gaap fits her persona better.

>>16299129
I liked Hugh Grant, but this seems like a great choice as well.

I'm really struggling with some of the others though. The aunts in general.

>>16299130
What about Eva/Evatrice? I know Evatrice is supposed to be younger, but could that somehow work with some minor changes? I really don't see it fitting Gaap that much.

>>16299144
I don't know, HBC almost exclusively plays really cooky characters. I think someone else would be better for Eva/Evatrice.

Also how about Jim Broadbent for Nanjo? Fatten him up a little and have him grow a moustache.

Every reread there's something interesting and heartwarming about the characters even amongst their problems. Krauss talking to Natsuhi and apologizing to Eva about their youth in EP3 was really touching.

I miss Umineko threads from a couple months back. Nanjo fight scene, Owls, and most of all the game boards.
Were game boards banned or something? I never see them anymore.

Also, did anyone save that Nanjo fight scene? And didn't someone make a video of it?

>>16299221
Krauss apologized for his nightly rapings?

>>16299227
I don't think the boards were ever banned, at least I never saw any of them deleted or anything. I guess there were just one or two people who made them and they left the threads. I've been wanting to make one myself but it's harder than it sounds, much harder

>>16299414
It feels like nobody's tried to make one since the drinking game got axed.

>>16299227
Goldsmith made one.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OwbKi_Sgqzs&t=66s

>>16299442
Ah, I was just about to link this.
Though he did change a bit of the scenario. I think the original text didn't involve Gaap but Kyrie, and I don't think Nanjo died in the end

>>16299437
Man, I was really pissed off that I got banned for that. I put a lot of time and effort into that, and many anons seemed excited about it. Now I can never post it again, or change the rules a bit to perfect it, because I'll just get banned again. That is, if I don't get banned for posting this.

>>16299491
I was a bit annoyed too, since I'd worked on making the board and all.

>>16299437
The threads have gotten a bit weird lately. Like we're all living under the tyranny of a fickle janitor, so we don't really dare to say or do anything out of the ordinary. To be honest, I'm surprised this whole Hollywood movie adaptation discussion hasn't been killed. We can talk about actors portraying Umineko characters, but we can't post edited pictures or play drinking games?

Really makes you think.

It keeps happening. We're in a closed loop. I feel like Rika, trying to break free from my tortuous existence, but in the end I just get killed and have to try all over again.
I'm starting to see how Bernkastel got formed

>>16299491

I wanted to play that. Never even got a chance to see it. I suppose I could track it down if it isn't pastebined.

>>16299549
Wish I could be in a loop, at least I could eventually find a way out.

I like Umineko.
Do you like Umineko?
Who is your favourite character? Mine is Rudolf. He is so cool.

What is your favourite episode? Mine is 1 because it was really cool.

>>16299598
I also like Umineko a lot and my favorite character is Battler because he is the main character. I really like Umineko.

Umineko takes place in 1986 but this feels more like 1984.

beato

>>16299663
the

>>16299666
BITCH

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>>16299672
That hurts, anons.

>>16299677
>anons
>s
You have too much "love", nerd.

>>16294885
I like a lot of the suggestions in here, but I can't for the life of me think of anyone who could portray Beatrice. That mix of lovableness and evil. To switch between those two would be very hard.

>>16299688
Stumped on that as well. I'd love to see Emma Watson in there somewhere, too bad she can't act though. I guess she could be Jessica? No fuck it, she'd be terrible.

>>16294885
>>16295042
>>16299097
>>16299129
>>16299151
These are perfect. High-profile British actors who fit the role.
Well come on people, we've got like 50 more roles to fill. Unless they cut out most of the magic stuff like the Stakes and Siestas, which would seem likely.

What do you suppose Kinzo does in his study all day? All alone. Just him and the portrait. And some absinthe. And probably some lube.

Post the weirdest fan art you've found

Monitoring and saving all those posts about Hollywood's Umineko for future work. Now we just need that GiS and Death Note sells.

>>16300180
Good man. I sort of forgot they were making a GitS and DN film. I mean, it's been out there for years so I sort of assumed nothing actually come of it.
But if they do sell, the chances of an Umineko film franchise rise a lot. It started as a joke, but I would seriously love to see this happen

>>16300218
>the chances of an Umineko film franchise rise a lot
There is literally 0% chance of it actually happening. Umineko isn't known in the west at all. The anime didn't even get an English dub

>>16300237
But Umineko is full of western themes thats why i think it has a big chance of getting a movie adaptation.

>>16300237
>>16300256
There's actually a point there. It has a lot of western influences. It's basically And Then There Were None on fucking steroids, and Agatha Christie is fucking worshipped in the west. Have you seen the BBC adaptation of And Then There Were None they did last year? It was absolutely amazing. They had an all-star cast of British actors and the ratings went through the roof.
Sure, some things would be changed. No stakes, less magic battles. But if they focused more on the murders and the mystery behind the Rokkenjima Massacre it could very well work.
If they get another cast of well-known British actors and set it on an island off the coast of Scotland or something, it could very well work.

Then again, as you said, Umineko isn't well known over here. I'm just saying that the prospect of an adaptation isn't that far out of reach as you may think. If they tweak things a bit and make it more western, it could work very well. We just need one smart insider guy at Hollywood to get this shit going.

>>16297022
I have spoken much about Bernkastel's origins and how she is not Rika, nor entirely related to her. I assume that I have a comprehensive understanding of Bernkastel's origins.

Bernkastel was born out of the collected negative memories of Rika over the 100 year journey from Hanyuu. She did this twofolds. Firstly, to give Rika a greater fighting chance to eventually defeat fate. Everything Rika represents, Bernkastel is the opposite in every way. This is because Bernkastel is the cynical portion of Rika as she started to lose hope.

At the beginning of ep 7, there is a faceless person talking directly to the reader. In the manga, this person is shown to be a Rika lookalike, however, she does not seem to have a name. In Rei, Rika wakes up in an alternative kakera where everything is perfect for everyone except for her. Rika goes on a drunken rant and accepts that her 100 year journey has made her different from the original Rika. She dubs her kakera hoping personality 'Furuderika Bernkastel', a combination of the wine and herself, as children do not drink wine.

After the events of Rei, Hanyuu says that she has a new friend but refuses to say who it is. Clearly, this is the Rika lookalike, now named Frederica Bernkastel. Hanyuu was the one who purposefully thew Rika into that world. And contrary to popular interpretation, that kakera is not a kakera but a dream. Because Hanyuu enforces to Rika that it was a dream, people have suspected that perhaps it did happen, but this is unlikely. A kakera can only change so much due to Lambda setting up the game. All events until a decade before the events of the story are fixed. There are some variations, but causality is fixed. As such, the changing of gender of someone 8 generations ago, from male to female, to make Rika the 9th generation instead of 8th is something completely outside the gameboard. For those reasons, it proves that Hanyuu created a dream to put Rika into.

Hanyuu did this for two reasons. She wanted Rika to appreciate the value of having one life, and to give the Rika lookalike a true identity so that she might finally have a friend. However, Frederica Bernkastel rejected this prison, broke her chains and ventured into the meta to destroy whatever hope she could find.

Bernkastel is essentially the worst aspects of Rika that was denied a happy ending. A complete opposite of Rika in every way. A monster who deserves nothing less than dead. And the funny thing is that she knows that. She confidently opens her arms to anyone who wants to kill her and desires it.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c2KbybRxJLQ

>>16298138
Rika told of her poems to K1 but it's not known if she signed them. There is a poem that shows that Rika is not the creator of the poem.

>I am who I am; Frederica Bernkastel.
>Furude Rika and Frederica are different. Shame on you if you thought so.
>My age? I've gotten bored with it, so I've quit counting.

>Huh? Are you speculating that the real identity of the Oyashiro-sama is me?
>Giggle giggle. You are so insolent.
>The Oyashiro-sama is the Oyashiro-sama. You want me to introduce it to you? It's rather shy.
>It gets frightened easily so don't scare it, okay? >However, it seems that you are the one that's scared.

>Giggle giggle giggle...

>>16299236
>Krauss
>ever apologizing

>>16297022
Basically, throughout Higurashi, there are two Rikas at any given time. The template Rika, and a copy Rika.

The template Rika exists between the fragments, so we never truly meet her, but basically, at the star of every 'loop', the template Rika's 'soul' or whatever is copied into the native Rika of that fragment, overwriting it with her personality and (some of) her memories.

Once a copy Rika dies, all of her memories are copied back into the template Rika, and so she can be said to have 'lived through' that 'loop' despite it technically being a copy of her that did so.

Now, things go haywire once we get to the final 'loop', Matsuribayashi-hen. Because, you see, that's when the miracle finally happen, where Rika survives. Except, hold on, that's not "Rika" getting her wish granted, but "a Rika". See, that's the copy Rika who gets to experience that. The template Rika, the backup Rika, the Rika who remembers every single death she's ever experienced, SHE doesn't get to experience her survival, because the memories of a copy Rika only get uploaded into her when she dies, and the final Rika is unique because she was the only one who didn't die.

In fact, the template Rika realizes that it's IMPOSSIBLE for her to ever experience the miracle of her survival, since even if she did die, it would mean that she didn't survive. In a way, even though the miracle happened, it never did.

This, most of all, broke the template Rika and turned her into a witch. Remember, this is essentially the Minagoroshi-hen Rika, the Rika who finally had her hopes revived after having just about given up for a while now, the one who swore in her last moments to take down Takano no matter what, realising that her hopes and convictions were impossible to fulfill.

I'm not sure where Saikoroshi-hen stands in relation to the template Rika, since the copy never actually died (I'm thinking the template might have been a witch already at this point and witnessed it from the outside) but it's very important for the copy Rika and the origin of the template's new name.

Up to this point, both the template and the copies have thought of themselves as just 'Rika' but it's at this point that the final Rika acknowledges both the template and the copies created from it as being a distinct entity from s they replace, calling herself(es?) "Frederica Bernkastel". At the end, that's where Furude Rika and Frederica Bernkastel become two separate people, as the copy Rika resolves to live simply as "Rika". In contrast, the template doesn't, because it's realized the hopelessness of herself striving to be Furude Rika, and so becomes simply "Frederica Bernkastel".

At that point, Bernkastel, already jaded and untrusting, is mentored by self-admitted monster Featherine Augustus Aurora and is twisted even further into the complete bitch we know and love today.

>>16300569
>This is because Bernkastel is the cynical portion of Rika as she started to lose hope.

This is mostly what I believe. I think Bernkastel developed over time in the form of negative feelings as Rika went through the loops. Bernkastel's influence can be seen in Rika during those moments when Rika looses hope, like when she taunts Rena in Tsumihoroboshi.

Though I wouldn't say she's "the opposite" of Rika, since she originally did come from her. I think she's more like her shadow, an ugly part of Rika that eventually took it's own form and split from her.

I also think that it was only after splitting that she stopped calling herself "Frederica Bernkastel" and started going by just "Bernkastel", in order to show that she was no longer connected to Furude Rika.

>>16300809
It feels like you're making it out to be like Rika's got some kind of split personality. At this point, at least, there's nothing like that going on. This is just Rika dropping her mask for once and letting her real jaded self shine through.

>>16300935
Less like she has a split personality, and more like those cynical parts of her are what eventually became Bern. It's kinda like Eva-Beatrice.

>>16300959
Eva-Beatrice, Beatrice's made-up OC who doesn't really make all that much sense if you think about her literally, that Eva-Beatrice?

>>16300977
>Beatrice's made-up OC
Eva-Beatrice is just the personification of the Eva culprit theory, Like Black Battler is for the Battler culprit theory.

>>16300977
What do you mean doesn't make sense? It's literally Eva's exaggerated greed and hatred of her siblings.

>>16300981
i think you might want to look up the definition of literally mate

Why is Eva so mean? like really she's just mean for literally no reason, good damn I hate Eva so fucking much.

>>16301231
To be an obvious red herring early on.

Been away for a long time, did Trianthology ever get uploaded for that one anon that was crying about it several months ago?

>it all coulda been a simple tale of a guy trying to save his family from eternal purgatory from the clutches of a witch
>just ends with an uninteresting tale of some fucked up orphan who had the hots for Battler and wanted to blow up an island

It's just salt on the wounds looking back to the end of Episode 3 where Beatrice fucking joked about being a sympathetic villain.

Granted I guess with the circumstances Ryukishi was going through, it was gonna get really rough in the end

>>16301593
Ange is rude.

Ange is rude.

>>16301742
Ange is silly dumb girl.

>>16301775
Ange is mean.

>>16301775
>Not yet
>yet
Sounds like she has plans

>>16300801
I wonder if Bern would stop being such a bitch if she just went back to Hinamizawa and became friends with everyone again. I mean, if what you're saying is right, then all she really wanted was to survive and live her life with her friends.

Would you a stake?

>>16301819
In a way"Bernkastel" herself was never really friends with them, Rika was. Honestly I think Bern isn't evil as she appears. A witch to a kakera is like a reader to a book. When you've spent thousands of years reading tragic books not much phases you. You want crazier, more gruesome stories. You become cynical and cold to the book's portrayed emotions. But maybe you still have a softspot for your favorite stories. Or even the first book you read.

Bern treats Battler's family like shit, but they were a sinister and terrible family to begin with. That's not to excuse her actions, but they're just evil little "characters" to her. I don't think Bern would ever torture the pieces of Hinamizawa in the same way. So it's not like she can just turn off her bitch like a switch. But I believe there is goodness in her, the part of her linked to the old Hinamizawa game.

>>16301917
Also, she even made a nice happy world for her enemy Takano. (If we accept that they are the same Bern).
Makes me think there's far more than just evil under the surface of Bernkastel.

>>16301917
>>16301942
Well, there's also that one interpretation where Lambda and Bern just take turns playing the role of villain, and that in Umineko it just happened to be Bern's turn.

>>16301942
lmao, Rika aged like milk.

>>16302183
Rena didn't do much better.

>>16302192
Adult Rena looks like a christmas cake.

>>16302183
Nah, she's not great there sure but older Rika can be really damn cute.

>>16301819
Bernkastel is trapped within the meta, she cannot go in the physical world and have fun. Essentially, Bernkastel is condemned to never be like Rika.

>>16302405
I question exactly how connected Yukari & Stella are to Bernkastel when they appear to just be palette copies.
But you should include Bus stop Rika.

>>16302564
They're not. I'm the one who made that chart years ago. I have a theory that Stella is a story written by Rika as it references some mafioso elements Satoko mentions in Higurashi.
Higanbana is likely a story written by Maria but it's possible that Bernkastel had some influence over the creative decision but who knows.

>>16302564
Also the Bus Stop Rika is essentially a proto-Rika and doesn't fit within the timeline of Rika. It can be seen more as a template rather than a progression.

>>16302608
>Higanbana is likely a story written by Maria
how deep does the lore rabbit hole go

>>16302608
>>16302639
Maria is a good writer

>>16302639
Extremely deep.
I mean
>main character of Higanbana
>named Marie
>who gets no love from her parents and is mostly forgotten
>one of the Gods with a shrines is Maria's plush toy
The signs are pretty much there.

And then there's the theory that Higurashi Outbreak is a story writtten by Takano as she's credited with Ryukishi as the writer of the story in the story story in Higurashi Daybreak, iirc.

And then years ago !Nipaa put forth the theory that all of Higurashi was written by Rika as a coping mecanism, similar to Umineko, but that was just him trolling, until people took it seriously.

And then there's Akasaka literally written a book called Higurashi trying to uncover the conspiracy. And Battler reading a book called Higurashi at the beginning of ep 1.

The rabbit hole is so fucking deep, that we end up meeting Alice in the meta in Ryukishi's last story. It's that deep.

>>16302623
Wear a seatbelt and you'll be fine they said

>>16302623
My grandmother, years ago, was saved because she didn't wear her seatbelt. She hit a tree and flew out of the car, but the car kept doing flips and then went on fire. A fireman told her that if she had been wearing a seatbelt, she would have died.

In a way, you could say that it was a... miracle.

>>16302623

>>16301819
She couldn't really. Well, she could probably go to Hinamizawa with Voyager powers, heck based off of the Takano-doesn't-become-a-supervillain timeline she probably has, but becoming friends with everyone isn't something she could do. Bern is a loner who shuns other people because she feels that it opens her up to pain and betrayal. One could guess that that stems from her feeling betrayed by her- rather, Rika's - friends, who got her to open up again after decades just to make her ultimate failure hurt that much more. Or maybe she'd just be afraid of getting close to them again. Either way, there's no way she'd be able to bring herself to befriend them again/for the first time. Besides, with how much she's changed as a witch, I really doubt that she'd be willing/able to live in the mortal world for an extended period of time.

One thing I have little doubt of, though, is that she HATES Rika.

Hello, it's been awhile.
Merry Christmas everyone!! Glad to see that these threads are as dead as ever. Pls never change <3
Now, if you see mr. cheeto man around give this to him, that's all.
Enjoy the weekend.

>>16294885
>would it sell
just have it be titled Marvel's Umineko and put in lots of quips and lots of eastereggs to fill into the trailers and analysis videos on Youtube, it'll be among the most successful movies ever

even you enjoy these flicks. I know I do

>>16303113
>Marvel's Umineko
this is literally the worst idea ever

>>16295168
A bit of me want to see all of Maria's autismus in the big screen only to see normies reacting to her.

Also, you know what would be great? If they actually use the games soundtrack instead of some generic hollywoodian orchestra.

Without love it cannot be seen lol

>>16303358
>Also, you know what would be great? If they actually use the games soundtrack instead of some generic hollywoodian orchestra.

AHAHAHAHAHA
hollywood would fuck it up even worse than deen senpai

generic pop/rock music, EVERYONE'S white (except Inexplicable Black Gohda played by, I dunno, Chris Rock?) so beato doesn't even stand out, everyone has realistic hair colors (even the stakes), Gaap's gap is gone, they don't even bother using makeup to make Shannon and Kanon look like different people and Yasu's spoiled in the credits/marketing anyway, the logic battles and half the tea parties are cut for time, 34 and Bern are as tall as everyone else instead of a pseudololi and a shortstack, Yasu's backstory is changed because incest bad, EP4 is JUST the Ange scenes and the ending, the ghosts are cut, and Zepar is played by a dude.

>>16303580

>>16303580
>generic pop/rock music
I don't think any decent director would pick up a fucking thriller and put that kind of soundtrack.

>EVERYONE'S white
With the whole anti-racism thing going on in media, i doubt that. Just like you said, Gohda would quite work as a black guy and maybe hideyoshi as a hispanic or Kurasawa as the only japanese.

>everyone has realistic hair colors
That is obvious

>they don't even bother using makeup to make Shannon and Kanon look like different people and Yasu's spoiled in the credits/marketing anyway
Maybe they could change the twist a bit, making Kanon never existing at all so they can use two different actors for Shanon and Kanon. The Yasu spoiled in marketing can be avoidable

>the logic battles and half the tea parties are cut for time
Nah, i think the witch battles and other actions scenes would be butchered, since they dont look quite fit for a mistery movie

>34 and Bern are as tall as everyone else instead of a pseudololi and a shortstack
That is quite a problem.

>Yasu's backstory is changed because incest bad
Quite happy if that happens, the whole thing was retarded.

>EP4 is JUST the Ange scenes and the ending, the ghosts are cut
Not sure about that one, they would love to do some Maria exposition.

>>16303580
>>16303682
>the ghosts are cut
fuck I meant goats, the EP8 goats,

>>16303682
>I don't think any decent director would pick up a fucking thriller and put that kind of soundtrack.
you honestly think they'd look for a decent director to film a western film adaptation of a weeb series?

>>16303703
I can have hopes, right? I mean, we are talking about the best scenario here.

>>16303718
It's a live action adaptation, that IS the best case scenario.

>>16303611
picture it anon.
you can never tell which stake is which except asmodeus
gohda is the wimpy black guy comic relief from every action movie ever
gaap's just wearing a regular dress and battler's a clone of 2000s era shia labeouf in a ginger wig
no UUUOOOOH BEATORICHEEEEEE
no trollfaces, just little smirks
zepar's just some dude in a suit
no krauss counter
no goat-kun
"AND KIERA KNIGHTLEY AS THE SERVANTS SHANNON AND KANON"
yasu's just some crazy chick who dresses up like the painting in the hall because she's crazy
no 34 and bern being gay in bed and shittalking beato

"yawn"

>>16303755
3D was a mistake

>>16299221
I don't remember Krauss apologizing.
Umineko is better understood/enjoyed after reading a few times, I think.
Wasn't there an Anon who read Higurashi every year? That takes dedication.

>>16300175

"yawn again"

>>16300175

>>16303899
It's in EP3 right before Evatrice kills Krauss and Natsuhi.

"yawn once more"
LOL

>>16303899
>an Anon who read Higurashi every year
christ
it took me half a year just to read the bloody thing the first time

>>16303765
>>16303935
>>16304008
Are you okay?

>>16304023
Ignore and report

>>16304023
Yes.
>>16304028
No. Also Merry Christmas

"yawn a lot"

"yawn intensifies"

>>16300175
I can't get used to that artist's faces.

>>16304028
Silly boy

I'm waiting for someone to come to my house, until then
"super yawn"

"extra yawn"

Well, not exactly my house but
"mega yawn"

"yawn something"

Come on, mod. Kill some time with me.

"common yawn"

God, you coward!!

"ultra yawn"

"weird yawn""

"malicious yawn"

Oh I get it. You are waiting for me to leave so you can ban me!!! Well, you will have to wait a lot! Five minutes or more!!! what...
>You are temporarily blocked from posting for violating Global 9 - Ban Evasion
How dare you defy me!!

"cute but strong yawn""

That's more like it >:3
>Error: You are banned.
Lies!!!!

"super mega utra yawn"

Take that!!!

"regular yawn"

cOME ONNNN

"galaxy destroyer yawn"

Im so BOREDDDDDDDDD

"hopeful yawn"

Oh. It's time. bye-bye

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>>16304430
You called?

>>16304430
the <brave>, <cool> and <amazing> witch of certainty!

>>16304430
She's the most <cute>

>>16304085
There are a couple of good looking ones

>>16304461
Mostly the ones with Eva-Beatrice

>>16303580
>34 and Bern are as tall as everyone else instead of a pseudololi and a shortstack
But which witch is which?

>>16304461
>>16304488

dude wearing mascara

>>16304528
It's actually Yasu disguised as Eva

HI… I’M USHIROMIYA KINZO ? FOUNDER AND HEAD OF THE USHIROMIYA FAMILY. BEATRICE.. I WOULD LIKE TO FUCK YOU NICE AND DEEP IN THE KUWADORIAN ? YOUR GOLDEN BUTTERFLIES CLENCHING HALF OF MY DESIRE AT THE BASE WHILE THE OTHER HALF SLOWLY PRAISES YOUR NAME ON HIGH. YOU WILL BE THE REINCARNATION OF YOUR MOTHER WITH GOLDEN HAIR WHILE RECITING THE EPITAPH OF THE GOLDEN WITHC. WHEN YOU GET TO THE PART ABOUT GOUGING, I WILL ROLL MY MAGIC ROULETTE AND BLOW A LOAD SO HUGE YOU’LL DROP YOUR YET UNBORN BABY DOWN A CLIFF. I GUARANTEE IT.

>>16304551

>>16304524
Obviously Lambda is the shortstack.

>>16304562
*thows popcorn*
pssh... nothin personell... knox

"yawn of doom"
<3
Last time for tonight

Forget a feature-length movie, I want to see a high-budget Umineko porn.
There's hardly any doujins. I wish there were javs with Umineko characters like there are with 2hus.

>>16304579
*CHECKFINISHED*

*Unlocking sounds*

Nothing personnel, WITCH

>>16304595
What about no?

>>16304595
What about a feature-length porn movie?

Everyone talks about making a character black or something in the movie, but what about changing some character gender?

>>16304085
Where'd you find this one? I can't find it on their tumblr or their pixiv.

>>16304683
It's from their twitter.
https://twitter.com/WWWElinaWWW/status/796344033589096448

Still the best female Battler design.

>>16304722
meant for >>16304667

>>16304573
those aren't tits those are just her hands

>>16304853
But she's wearing gloves. Don't doubt the witch of certaintits.

>>16304955
they're handless gloves. they don't even look like they're attached to her chest.
never underestimate the hamhands.

>>16304974
You can't prove that they aren't tits. It's a devil's proof!

>>16303999
>desire to be like my father
>I gave Eva scars so deep that they have not healed
HMMMMM

>>16304853
>>16304955
>>16304974
>>16304996
It looks like I'll have to open this catbox.
http://imgur.com/Kes47rR

>>16304974
Whatcha' doin, seacats?

Not good at mysteries? Here's a seacat themed liar puzzle. No need to submit your answer.

Kinzo was killed in the servants' room at 12:00 p.m, October 31st. Later that day, five of the servants that were on duty were rounded up and questioned. Each servant made four statements, three of which were true and one false.
One of these servants definitely killed Kinzo. Who did it?


Genji:
>I did not kill Kinzo
>I never owned a revolver in my life
>Kanon saw me today
>I was in the servants' room earlier today
Shannon:
>I did not kill Kinzo
>Kanon did not enter the guesthouse today
>I don't know where Gohda was at the time of the murder
>I was with Genji in the servants' room today
Kanon:
>I did not kill Kinzo
>I didn't go into the guesthouse today
>I didn't see Genji all day
>Gohda lied when he said I did it
Gohda:
>I was in the guesthouse when Kinzo was murdered
>I never killed anyone
>Kanon is the killer
>Shannon knows where I was at the time of the murder
Kumasawa:
>Genji lied when he said he never owned a revolver
>The murder was committed on Halloween
>Gohda was in the guesthouse at the time of the murder
>One of us five is guilty

>>16305014

>>16305275
Its Kumasawa, isnt it?

Who was the author of Umineko portraits?

>>16305581
If you mean the artist, it was Ekusa Takahito

>>16305581
>>16305640
Don't be silly. Clearly Ryukishi WROTE all the portraits himself.

Edit anon here. It's been a while, so I figured I'd post an update on the Stake's lewd edit. If there are any issues with the proportions please feel free to let me know and I'll do my best to fix them.

>>16306264
Stupid CAPTCHA deleting my message.

I feel that the outline of the left breast is a good start, but with some small issues.
You have a nude model of her, but the breast outline seems to portray a bit of binding or squishing, as if she were still wearing clothes. In a relaxed, clotheless state, I believe her breasts would naturally separate and create a slight gap.
And with that newly created space, it would have her right breast, the one closest to us, face slightly off to the side.

Another small point, regarding perspective, would be that her closest breast to us is slightly smaller that the one in the back. You can do a simply measurement with a pixel line and confirm this. If the right breast is closest to us, wouldn't that one be /slightly/ bigger?

That is all I can say. Thank you for accepting input/critique. Keep up the good work.

>>16306336
Thank you very much for the feedback. Now that you mention it, I think I see what you mean. How's this? I increased the size of the left (her right) breast and adjusted it so that it's hanging a bit more freely to the side.

>>16302202
Did someone say christmas cake?

>>16306387
Definite improvement!

I'm no artist, but that definitely seems a lot more natural to me now.
Also, it's just hitting me now, but if her breasts are naturally close together, will you draw that V pattern that sometimes appears on top?
That's entirely up to you.

>>16305275
>No need to submit your answer
I kind of want to anyway.
My answer is Genji
For anyone who's having trouble getting started with this, beginning with Kanon's and Gohda's statements is the best way to go because Kannon makes two statements that must both be true or both be false and two lies are not permitted.

>>16306493
If I can get it to look right, then sure. How's this?

>>16306554
I think that's the right length and "angle", but something about the endpoint on the opposite end of the breast curve is throwing me off.
Without the V, it looks fine. But when you add it, the two points make it seem like top of the breast is attached a bit high and a bit close.
Is that how it looks like to you, or am I turn weird?

I was thinking about maybe dropping the endpoint near her armpit a bit, and see if playing with that could possibly improve it. It felt a little high to me when you compare it to the one on her left side. Here's a quick edit for a comparison.

I also shaved off very,very few pixels from the V pattern. In my head, I'm imagining a sort of band that starts from the bottom edge of the breast, travels across the marshmallow-y curves and comes to a rest on the other side.
This is my reason for cropping and dropping a few pixels.

>>16306627
I think the reason her right arm seems a bit wide at the shoulder is due to the way it's being bent backwards, causing it to stick out more. Meanwhile, the opposite shoulder is partially hidden behind her breast, and you can't see where the arm connects to it. Perhaps instead of changing the shoulders, I could fix the issue by changing the angle of the upper arm so that the shoulder looks just a tiny bit thicker.

As for the cleavage V, I get what you're saying. I think the angle makes it a bit difficult to pull off, but shaving it down the way you did looks a lot better.

>>16306671
Ah, you're totally right.
The upper arm change is completely up to you.
After reading your response, my previous point seems almost trivial.
Man, stretches and compressions are tricky.

Well, I'm off to bed. Congrats on your progress, and hopefully your end result looks great!

>>16306716
Thanks again for your help. If all goes well, I hope to be able to finish in time for Christmas.

>>16305462
agreed, taking out all the statements that have to be false leaves everyone saying they didn't do it apart from Kumasawa

What's your favorite engrish quote in Seacats?

>>16306828
Shii you again

>>16306828
<DIE THE DEATH>

>>16306828
All the western names.

Don't forget about Hanukkah, Seacats. It's a holiday about miracles!

>>16307218
I don't celebrate anything.

>>16307218
but miracles don't exist.

>>16306543
Correct!

I can only imagine that no female actress will have hime cut and that suffering is unbearable. No thanks.

>>16294885
No. It'll be a tv series. Set in North America.
Everyone is white except Genji. He can be Asian.
If someone starts protesting, we just say that Kinzo's to blame. We can also change the time period a bit, maybe that will help.

hastily made ushiromiya kraussmas

What was up with the gender ratio in Higurashi? Was Ryukishi trying to disguise it as a harem in order to make the sudden tone shift more surprising, or did he just realize that cute girls are more marketable?

>>16308744
He probably simply forgot about males because cute girls doing horrible things was such a brilliant idea.

>>16308846
To bad that concept's been overused in recent years ever since Mirai Nikki made yanderes more popular. Now it's just become cliche.

http://elfyourself.com?mId=70082951

>>16309201
I wasn't ready...

>>16308875
It always was one.

>>16309408
True enough, but at least Higurashi did it well by giving them actual personalities and motivations instead of just having them act crazy for shock value.

>>16306871
<HAVE A NICE DAY>

>>16309556
<HAVE A NICE DREAM>
<SEE YOU IN HELL>

Merry Christmas seacats!

>>16309826
Large version.

>>16308744
>sudden tone shift
It wasn't really that sudden considering the novel starts with someone beating the person they love to death

>>16294885
It would have been amazing to Christopher Lee as The Man who Sold the Gold

>>16308744
I don't know how many times I have to explain this. Higurashi, at its heart, is a typical and cliche harem. It just is. Think about it.
Boy changes school and is surounded by beautiful girls whom he has fun with every day, but because he's dense he never forms romantic relationships with any of them.
It's as cliche as they come.

And look at the cast.
Rena, a typical moeblob airhead.
Mion, a typical tsundere tomboy. Even her long skirt reflects her personality, as those with long skirts tend to be boyish and aggressive.
And then you get two archetype loli. A little brat ojou-sama and then a typical silent but smarter than her peers loli.

Everything about the Higurashi cast was designed to make you believe from the start that everything about it is cliche. That's the entire point. So that when the horror comes, it comes literally out of nowhere. The reason why USODA is so shocking is because a moeblob airhead typically never goes to the literal opposite extreme. And as the story progresses, each of these cliche characters are given depth until they break from their archetypical characters and become actual human characters with dreams, hopes and flaws.

It's the reason why animeonlyfags hate Higurashi Kira while those who actually read the VN love that OVA. The OVA is about the gang shenanigans and has no real mystery or horror. It goes back to its roots because that's the entire basis of the story; a harem. But for animeonlyfags who never experienced the harem SoL moments from the VN, all they enjoy is the horror aspect and hate how everything is silly in Kira.

>>16308846
I think it's more because he unlocked how to write female characters and brags about it. Higanbana is basically a story with nearly only female characters to the point where it's too obvious.

>>16311480
I enjoyed Kira because I saw it as the happy ending all the characters had earned.

>I think it's more because he unlocked how to write female characters and brags about it.
It would explain why the women in Umineko tend to get more development than the men. Well, that and to give several possible candidates for Beatrice's true identity.

>>16311480
>There will never be a full-on Higurashi eroge.

>>16294885
*chew*

>>16294885
How did Kinzo turn white?

HOTARUBI SCANLATIONS FUCKING WHEN

>>16311748
Right after Trianthology English patch

>>16311612
How would Higurashi's reception have changed if it had been an H-game?

For that matter, could Higurashi's story even work as such a game?

>>16311583
I think it's because he's a feminist and read a lot of books on gender.
There's a really interesting part when Battler meets Ronove for the first time. They get along almost immediately and joke and whatnot. Beatrice laments that she wishes she could do the same and that guys usually become bros the moment they meet. Whenever two people of the opposite sex meet, there is always sexual tension, even if both are unconscious about it.

That part speaks to a general observation but also likely from something he read from a textbook.

>It would explain why the women in Umineko tend to get more development than the men.
It might just be me, but that applies to nearly all his stories. K1, Tomitake, Oiishi, and Irie interesting people but they're not flawed or broken like the female cast. It seems it's done on purpose that his female characters are fleshed out and interesting specifically because they are filed with suffering. While, in comparison, the men in the story are decent but not as interesting characterize than the women.

But that's just me and there's no way to explain it in a way that won't get bitched.

>>16311790
No. Ryukishi stated that he thinks that ero scenes break from the flow of the story. I agree with him. Where would you even add an eroge in the story?

Plus, Higurashi is known as the typical entrylevel VN with a good story that doesn't contain H-scenes. It makes Higurashi unique, at least for EOP

>>16311814
I think Higurashi is too pure for ero really.
It's meant to be a touching tale of friendship, adding erotica would just ruin it

>>16311798
I think Keiichi and Battler got plenty of depth though. Though it's mostly retroactive through the revelation of new facts. For instance, Keiichi's past makes his fierce attachment to his relatively new friends much more understandable.

>>16311814
I agree. Unless romance is a major part of the story, sex scenes tend to feel like they're just shoehorned in. If there were to be any, they would either need to be separated from the actual story in a spin-off, or merely implied to have happened off-screen. But as >>16311824 said, Higurashi is meant to be a story of friendship, so such things would still feel out of place.

Though I think it would be much easier to fit such things in Umineko, since romantic love is such a huge theme there.

>>16311887
I don't mean that K1 and Battler don't have depth, but they don't have emotional depth.
Battler is essentially Mion's ''the more you push him in a corner, the harder he comes back'' as he tries desperately to hide his nihilsm.
K1 is definitely Ryukishi's self interest, he even admits so himself, but when you read him, he's not entirely interesting until ep 6 when you learn more about him. Though that's not entirely the fault of Ryukishi imo, since making an actual good first person avatar character that isn't a beta boring shit or a I'M SUCH A MOTHERFUCKING ALPHA I'M BADASS bullshit like Grisasia or SnK. It's hard to get a good middle ground but K1 and Battler fit that so it's fine.

It's just that it seems purposeful that the men don't have as much depth as the women and it makes his female characters very interesting.
It's the reason why I have such respect for Ryukishi as a writer.

>Unless romance is a major part of the story, sex scenes tend to feel like they're just shoehorned in.
Sex scenes tend to be seen as 'rewards' for the reader for reading. Fanservice in a way. And depending on your tolerance for them, they're either decent or completely annoying.

>>16311930
I think the playful attitude Battler and Keiichi both have helped to establish their personalities early on, after which their interactions with various characters in different situations served to flesh them out. Also, they both have a tendency to screw things up, which kept them from seeming like some perfect Mary Sue.

> I'M SUCH A MOTHERFUCKING ALPHA I'M BADASS bullshit like Grisasia
On an unrelated note, I actually liked Grisaia's mc because his initial cool impression ended up being misleading.

>they're either decent or completely annoying.
For me it depends on how good the game is. The way I see it, a crappy game is one that makes you want to skip the story to get to the sex scenes, while a good game is one that makes you want to skip the sex scenes to get back to the story.

>>16309201
Absolutely horrifying.

Why are Rika and Satoko so lewd?

>>16312162
Rika isn't even blushing.

>>16312176
She's probably had more than one chance to see it after over a hundred years of looping.

>>16312176
>>16312188
She's more experienced.

>>16312188
>>16312200
You fuckers, stay away from my Rika.

>>16312176
She wasn't impressed. Then again, who can blame her? Rena did say Keiichi's fur seal was "cute." Cute as in something to the effect of nicely saying Keiichi has a small size penis.

Is Satoko an oppai loli?

>>16312253
She's the one staring at Keiichi's dick with such fascination.

>>16312284
Yes. It's actually explained in story.
It's also the reason why Takano has large breasts.

>>16312296
Don't make me break your legs.

>>16312300
>Yes. It's actually explained in story.
Wait really? I must have missed that. What was it?

>>16312305
Girls at a young age start their periods younger when they lose their father figure. This is an evolutionary benefit that makes girls more suitable to have children and not be killed. When Satoko's father divorsed, Satoko was surrounded by new fathers at such a frequent basis that she was unable to become attached to them. This is why Satoko developped breasts at such a young age.
This is similar for Takano. She lost her parents in that accident and went to the orphanage. Slightly after that, she started her period and it's shown in the manga that she developped breasts when her grandfather adopted her.

So, well, it's not 'technically' explained in the story, but the reasons are clearly there. Rika did not develop breasts at a young age because she still had Father Kimiyoshi whom she knew at a young age.

>>16312331
Huh, that makes a lot of sense. So does that mean Satoko's going to grow up to have really large breasts like Takano, or is it just that her growth spurt started early and she'll average out eventually?

>>16312349
Tenpei commented said that Satoko would become as beautiful as her mother, so it's very likely she's have a good set of breasts.
>when your story is so well written that the size of breasts on a loli can be explained

Berlusconi-san as Hideyoshi

W.B. Diabeetus as the DOC

>>16312364
Sounds like Satoko might even overtake the Sonozaki twins. I guess I f Rika really wants to start growing her breasts, she needs to get rid of Kimiyoshi.

It really is funny how we can have a serious discussion about a loli's boobs.

>>16312300
What? Is Rika not allowed to act perverted?

Masterchef

Scraping the bottom of the barrel

>>16312284
>11 years old and can already fill a B-Cup.

>>16312349
My money's on cowtits.

>>16312364
>When you're such a good author you can come up with a convincing reason for giving a little girl boobs.
Do you think Ryukishi originally had that in mind when he first designed Satoko?

>>16312418
Just give it a few years.

>>16312331
Okay, but how do you explain Hanyuu then?

Reminder that Rika masturbates while knowing that Hanyuu feels every bit of it.

>>16312662
Hanyuu is an adult alien that transformed into a human to create peace between her alien clan and Hinamizawa. After she died, she grew up alongside Rika in however form she desired, hence why she has large breast.

>>16312714
Reminder that when I'll fuck Rika, Hanyuu will feel it too. A threesome at the same time.

>>16312714
Wouldn't Satoko notice Rika masturbating? Their house isn't exactly big. It must be pretty awkward having her best friend sleeping right beside her while she's shlicking it.

>>16312830
>implying Satoko knows what is masturbating
>implying Rika would even care
The masturbating part is probably the somber aspect of Rika's suffering. She was so broken and felt nothing that she masturbated to feel some sense of joy. Her own body as a tool to give her pleasure before she dies. She didn't do it because she wanted sex or because she was horny, but because she wanted to feel alive.
It's sad.

>>16312801
>A threesome at the same time.
Meanwhile Satoko is curled up on the other side of the room, pretending to be asleep as she listens and fondles herself.

>>16312830
>It must be pretty awkward having her best friend sleeping right beside her while she's shlicking it.
On the contrary, I think she'd prefer it that way. After all, what do you think she's masturbating to?

>>16312852
That interpretation is just plain depressing. I'd rather believe that Rika does it because she's still capable of experiencing normal desire rather than that she's only using the pleasure as an outlet for her mental fatigue.

>>16312961
A girl doesn't typically have those desires until they become a teenager. Satistically, a very large number of girls don't learn about masturbation until it's told to them or they find out by accident. Unlike boys that feel the urge while they become preteens, girls do not feel that urge. So, to me, it's very likely plausible that Hanyuu told Rika how to masturbate, knowing it would feel awkward, just in the vain hope that it might give her some pleasure. Not thinking of anyone or because she wanted sex.
I've read and have been in that state of depression. It's the worst possible kind of depression. You feel as though your body is more relaxed, happy and good as it releasing serotonin but you don't feel happy, just more miserable as the high leaves.
A personal drug that does nothing. It's a terrible feeling.

>>16312989
Even if her body never developed to the point where it started experiencing those desires, I kinda assumed that over the course of a hundred years she would have figured it out on her own. it's clear that she's at least become aware of those feelings. It seems hard to imagine Hanyuu resorting to teaching her such things.

>You feel as though your body is more relaxed, happy and good as it releasing serotonin but you don't feel happy, just more miserable as the high leaves.
Isn't that how it is for everyone when they first start pleasuring themselves, until they get used to the backlash caused by the sudden wave of hormones that accompanies a climax?

>>16313041
>Even if her body never developed to the point where it started experiencing those desires, I kinda assumed that over the course of a hundred years she would have figured it out on her own.
Considering that girls never find out unless they're told or find out by accident, I find it unlikely. I don't think it's clear at all that she became aware of those feelings. I just imagine Hanyuu teaching such a thing because she's a cunt.

>Isn't that how it is for everyone when they first start pleasuring themselves, until they get used to the backlash caused by the sudden wave of hormones that accompanies a climax?
It's the scientific detailing of the release of seratoning during climax but you feel a sense of happiness after each time. It's the reason preteens happen to masturbate uncontrollably to get that high. It's more common than people think but when mixed with depression, it causes an opposite reaction.

>>16312253
Fine then, how's this instead?

>>16313061
> I just imagine Hanyuu teaching such a thing because she's a cunt.
So does that mean Hanyuu's the one who introduced Rika to alcohol as well, for similar reasons?

>but you feel a sense of happiness after each time.
Weird, the first several times I did it it always caused a backlash afterwards that made me wary to try it again for a while. I wouldn't really say I was depressed or anything though.

>>16306828
<DIE THE DEATH>, like >>16306888 says, but Erika's <good> deserves an honorable mention too.

I'd just like to wish a merry Christmas to George, and all of his chins

>>16313098
Perfect! An yes, love makes me have double standards.

>>16313340
Fine by me. I actually prefer Satoko.

>>16313108
>So does that mean Hanyuu's the one who introduced Rika to alcohol as well, for similar reasons?
Rika says she found her father's wine, so it's unlikely.
Masturbating is, as said, not something Rika could have found out by herself. Though who knows, she might have been watching people have sex and figured things out.

I perfer Hanyuu telling Rika.

>I wouldn't really say I was depressed or anything though.
I think you misunderstand. Serotonin gives you a rush but when you are actually depressed, such release of neurotransmitters doesn't entirely make you have happy feelings and just amplifies your depression afterwards.
It makes you zen and clear, but when you lose that feeling, all you feel is your depression. It's like taking marijuana and waking up. You only feel more like shit even though you felt better.

>>16313364
Then why didn't you start with Satoko?

>>16313371
No real reason, just a matter of positioning. Rika's bent further down, so it looked a bit more convincing with her.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZB01uKJbl0I

>>16313366
>she might have been watching people have sex and figured things out.
Who would she have seen? Her parents? Tomitake and Takano?

>>16313390
Uh, anyone in a village of 2000?
It is a small village.

>>16313392
Yeah, but most of the people she associates with are either kids or elderly.

>>16313397
There has to be other people than elderly or kids in the village.

Who's up for a Christmas mystery?

Christmas has come to Rokkenjima, and the entire family is invited for a Christmas party. Unfortunately Kinzo does not want to appear. When the family come to investigate him they get no answer when they knock on the door. The entire family keeps knocking and shouting, but Kinzo gives no reply. The parents start to fear for his safety and Krauss orders the servants to open the door. They inform him though that they had to turn in their master keys earlier that day to Kinzo. Eventually Krauss orders the servants to break down the door. The fetch an axe from the garden shed. Krauss wails at the study door three times until a large enough hole appears. He opens the door with his hand from the inside.
Inside, everyone finds Kinzo in his chair, dead. Shot through the skull.

Upon invistigating the crime scene they found all windows were locked, and no sign of a killer.
How on earth was Kinzo shot through a window without breaking it? What trick did the killer use?

>>16313404
>Pure Rika walking in on some couple getting busy.

The thing I am most worried about is how they would pronounce Beatrice in the Hollywood adaptation. They could never go BEATORIIICHREEEE. And Beatrice!!! just wouldn't do it for me, even if it is Sean Connery

>>16313427
Rube Goldberg machine.

>>16313524
Not really a valid theory. Try to come up with some blues instead of "machine X". Besides, that would contravene Knox, I'm fairly sure.

>>16313427
Too little info about the crime scene.
/BLUE/ Kinzo shot himself and kicked the gun away under a cabinet with his last strength!

<HAPPY CHRISTMAS FOR SEACATS>

>>16313427
/blue/ Kinzo was attacked from the window. When he saw the intruder, her ran to the window to shut it. The killer managed to shoot Kinzo, and Kinzo's last act was to locked the window and slump back into his chair, to die!

>>16313612
Right back at you

>>16313524
/RED/ No Rube Goldberg machine was involved.

>>16313589
/RED/ Kinzo did not shoot himself!

>>16313620
/RED/ Kinzo was sitting in his chair at the moment he was shot!

>>16313624
I like you edit-anon, and just because I can, could I ask you to put a christmas hat on Amakusa-hair Genji?

>>16313626
Might as well get the basics out of the way.
/BLUE/ The killer shot kinzo from within the room and then hid somewhere like the suit of armor to avoid being found.

/BLUE/ The killer escaped through the window then someone locked it while pretending to search.

>>16313630
Sure thing. Just give me a bit.

>>16313651
Good thinking. However.

/RED/ The killer shot Kinzo while the killer was outside of the room.
/RED/ The killer was not hiding in the room while everyone was outside.
/RED/ Yet the killer was definitely inside the room when everyone went in to investigate.
/RED/ The window was definitely locked when everyone went inside to investigate.

Quite a conundrum, eh? Show me your Blades of Blue so I can counter them with my Rapiers of Red!

>>16313656
You always come through edit-anon.

Also, I'm happy the thread is sort of active even though it's Christmas. I was afraid everyone would be off eating turkey with family instead of being here on /seacats/, your true family.

>>16313683
The killer was one of the group, and everyone else was in on it.

>>16313683
/BLUE/ Krauss shot Kinzo as he was sticking his hand through the door to unlock it.

>>16313700
/RED/ Krauss did not shoot Kinzo as he was sticking his hand through the door to unlock it.
/RED/ Everyone would notice if Krauss pulled out a gun and shot Kinzo while he stuck his hand through the door!

>>16313693
/RED/ There is one killer, but there is also one accomplice!

>>16313708
/BLUE/ Then those two committed the crime whilst the servants went to fetch the axe. Other family members went with them. Not all of the family members were present at the time of the murder because of this. The door was never locked and either Krauss or the servants or both Krauss and one of the servants in cooperation lied about it.

>>16313708
Wait, Kinzo's door has an auto-lock.
/BLUE/ The killer exited through the door, which then locked itself.

>>16313739
Ah, for the purposes of this mystery, the auto-lock is not in play. I guess a little hint could be that it could have been any room, but it just happens to be Kinzo's study and there's no auto-lock in this scenario. Should've mentioned that earlier, please don't logic-error me.

>>16313727
/RED/ All the family stayed at Kinzo's door while all the servants went to fetch the axe.
/RED/ Battler, the detective, was with the family at Kinzo's door, so no possibility exists that the family went inside somehow and killed Kinzo while the servants went away.

Read over my words very carefully. One killer. One accomplice.

>>16313630
Here you go.

>>16313835
I love it, thanks anon. He looks very much like he was forced to wear it because of a whim of Kinzo's and he hates it, but tries not to show it.

>>16313860
Thanks. I've also been trying to finish the stake edit, but I'm not sure if I'll make it in time before Christmas ends. For now, here's what I've got so far.

>>16313427
>They inform him though that they had to turn in their master keys earlier that day to Kinzo.

Can this part be confirmed in red?
Are all keys that can unlock Kinzo's study turned in, and within his study before the door was broken down?