/jp/ - Otaku Culture

>>15973720
No chun
Only 12 tiles
Calling kokushi musou "rising sun" instead of it's accepted English name "thirteen orphans"


Also, one night of non-stop bullshit destroyed two weeks worth of gains. I am beyond mad.

I'm still having fun

2.0

>just finished akgi anime
where should I start the manga now?

>>15974523
since the beginning. Anime skips a bit in the second arc.

>>15974523
The Washizu arc started almost 20 years ago, but it still hasn't come to an end. Wait a few more years.

>>15974611
sheeeeiiiit

>>15974611
aren't they sleep deprived by now?

2.0

What happened to osamuko?

1:0

Sometimes, games are so much fun that I don't even mind ending last, because everyone played their best and dared to try.

Sometimes, you just end up with 3 faggots who think mahjong is about getting the fastest 1 han hand.

>>15975781
Owner killed himself

>>15973748
A lot of retards use the wrong names for things, like calling thirteen orphans "kokushi musou" and saying shit like pin.
I play mahjong in English.

any interesting mahjong leagues to follow or rewatch? Sometimes its important to sway away from e-sport young'ns

>>15976580
Do you also shout "Mahjong!" whenever you win a hand, and proceed to clap, once per han?

>>15976665
No, that's not how you play competitive mahjong.

>>15976580
>Not knowing when to quit

Took me 166 games to get back up this time around.

Tilting hard.

Well, that was an interesting game, even if t seemed decided at the start.

3.0

http://tenhou.net/0/?log=2016101713gm-0089-0000-9e28a79c&tw=0

The mahjong gods are cruel, I'll probably never have a game that perfect for a long time. Feels even better after the huge 4th streak I've been on. And the neat 1-1-1-1 feels nice in a way too.

>>15973748
>Get two consecutive 1st places vs much higher ranked players

DAMAGE REPAIRED!

>>15980783
That is indeed a dish of utter cruelty

I find myself getting more and more superstitious about this game. For example, I never play on fridays since I tend to lose more hands. I also take the last I won with from my set and hold it for good luck.

Anybody else dabble in the voodoo shit?

>S1, on first place with a decent lead
>get a dama tenpai for iipeikou dora 2
>Leader drops my winning tile
>Lose connection that very instant
>Come back to me in 4th place after having dealt to a dealer mangan
>Just in time to see the game end

I was doing so well in the last couple of games, and then shit like this happens.

>>15984243
Shit like this made me drop my isp

>>15984243
>not having auto win on
It's really handy, especially if that happens often.

>tfw someone else's win improves your standing

>>15984969
I did have it on. Doesn't work if you disconnect. I even proceeded to draw the winning tile twice after disconnecting, but it didn't help.

3:0

trying to get into Ten now and I feel like even though I lucked my way through Akagi with very basic mahjong (what's Ron, what's Pon, what's a Dora, what's Riichi, what's Kan), I don't think it will be enough to enjoy Ten. I read the pastebin link but it's not enough. Is there some youtube link to a proper long guide with actual play to understand better.

Like what is Dora supposed to mean actually?

>Dora do not count towards doubles for a hand to be allowed to win - they do not count as Yaku.

What is this shit supposed to mean? Things like this I am not getting.

Let's say you built your winning hand faster than anyone, a basic hand you just won from Tsumo without any Yaku and you had 1 Dora in your hand (4-5-6 pin with 4pin being the Dora).

What does the Dora do?

And what does it do if you won it from Riichi?

Another thing - in Akagi, whenever he was calling Pon, either they never show it or I didn't see it - but he never really takes the discarded tile by the opponent? Are you supposed to just remember that? Same with Chi

>>15987830
just play and learn the fucking game

>>15987830
There's plenty of comprehensive YouTube videos that can walk you through the basics, but I'll answer some questions:

The most basic way of explaining riichi mahjong is that you need a complete valid hand (usually 4 sets and a pair) and at least one multiplier (aka yaku).

Yaku have values that are counted as "han". The amount of "han" your winning hand has, the higher its point value.

A Dora tile is a bonus tile that adds an extra han to your hand value, but does not count as a yaku. So even if you have four dora tiles in your hand, but no yaku, you cannot win.

When you pon/chi/kan, you take the tile from the player you claimed it from and turn it sideways next to your own exposed tiles. Akagi did not show players taking the tiles, but you always do.

Riichi is a special yaku worth 1han. You can declare riichi if your hand is fully concealed and one tile away from completion (aka tenpai). When you declare riichi, you bet 1000 points (that stick) and lock your hand. You then proceed to draw tiles until you draw your winning tile(s) or someone discards it. If you win, you will also have access to an additional dora located under the normal dora indicator called the ura dora.

It's too much to go over in post form, look up guides and utilize the resources in the pastebin.

>>15987914
An extra bit of important information is that menzen tsumo is a yaku by itself, so as long as you don't open your hand, you will always be able to win on a tile you drew yourself.

Certain yaku are not permitted on open hands, and tsumo is one of them. If you open your hand, even if you draw your winning tile, you will not get a yaku out of it.

ALL LIVES MATTER

>>15989353
Nice haneman, Fatalize.

>>15989425
DELETE THIS

Thanks, I thought so too.

>more

>>15988547
So then knowing you have chi'd on 3 times for example 3-4-5 Pin, 1-2-3 Sou and the 4-5-6 Man and what you have in your hand is 6-7-8 Man and a wait on a red dragon to make the pair, then you cannot possibly win, right? What could you knowing your open hand is those 3 Chi?

I learned now after playing for some hours that opening your hand isn't quite the best, but assuming you do decide to go for 3 random Chis like mine, what would you wait for or rather what would you need to be able to call Tsumo/Ron and win?

>>15989790
You're asking an impossible question really, since we don't know the details.

Here's solid beginner advice: learn your yaku. You don't need to know all of them, but there are some bread N butter ones that you should memorize and have a general idea of their worth.

So, to answer your question: you look at your starting lineup and decide what yaku to pursue. Everything else after that depends on game conditions.

I realise this is vague shit, but learning how to build your hand is the first step. Then you can worry about other principles.

You don't sound like you're from the LA area, which is a shame since there's a monthly meetup to learn how to play.

>>15989813
I see. Thanks, will do. I'm from Europe

>>15989790
This might be a bit confusing, but your best strategy in this case would be to maintain your ready status (tenpai) until the round ends. You could get some points from the penalty that occurs when a round ends in a draw. All players that weren't in tenpai will pay a penalty to the players with ready hands.

Mind you, a yaku isn't required in this case. This rule ONLY takes into consideration whether or not you've met the valid hand requirements. So your hand could potentially be worth 3000 (you're the only one in tenpai), 1500 (you and one other), 1000(3 players in tenpai) or 0 (everyone in tenpai)

Of course if someone else wins, you get jack

>>15989790
Those random chii's basically disqualify you from winning in most cases because you have no yaku and even if a tile that would technically complete your hand is dealt/drawn, because you have no yaku, you cannot declare a win. You can still get points at the end of the round for being in Tenpai though, and its a common practice to call on needed tiles towards the end of the round if it seems safe enough to do so even if it would put you in a state of having no yaku.

There are some cases where you can win with that hand, however, and that's basically by getting yaku based on pure luck, like drawing the exact tile you need on the last draw or having the exact tile you need dealt at the last discard. These are both like, sub-1% of ever occurring however, so you should never bank on this kind of stuff unless you know precisely what you're doing and you have no other choice. Even if you did win with that hand despite the odds, unless you have a fuckton of dora in your hand, it's going to be a dirt cheap hand, and generally the point value of the hand is really not worth how difficult it is to attain.

I have to second the above post though, learning your yaku will definitely help in all aspects of the game and also help you decide when/when not to call. Some yaku are pretty notorious for being commonly open, like tanyao and yakuhai, so if you're going for open hands, 90% of the time it's going to be based around those yaku. Others require a closed hand and some are worth more closed, and as a general rule of thumb, most of the time a closed hand (especially riichi'd) is going to be worth more than if it were open.

I'd recommend not calling on tiles unless you know with absolute certainty what yaku you're going for, otherwise, you're going to end up in most cases in a yakuless tenpai with almost no-ability to win, a cheap hand if you do win, and restricted defense because of the amount of tiles in your hand.

>>15987914
Well, if you understand that much, then you have the basic jist of it. That's enough to go ahead against human opponents.

Sure, you'll lose plenty enough at this early stage; but don't let that get to you. Eventually, you'll learn more and more about this game.

im sorry guys

>>15990285

>>15990285
What the fuck

>>15990030
>>15989859
>>15989850
Thank you very much, anons. I have skipped for about 7 years now Akagi because I was afraid of the mahjong theme and I remember getting once into it was a pain in the ass. But now that I'm done with it and the anime wasn't difficult at all to grasp, because it's mainly centered at the psychological aspect (discarding advantages, taking a gamble to win crazy hands instead of going for cheap hands being the main theme and what characterizes Akagi, at least partly), I'm very much into reading Ten and past the 10 first chapters I find it quite hard, so I said fuck it - today is the day I will finally do it, even if takes a week to understand.


I will just learn the yakus by heart or the most common ones (some are pretty obvious combinations anyway, like Ten's Chuuren Poutou, even though I doubt it's common)

>>15990285
>jews claim yet another thing is their own

literally the Koreans of the middle east

>>15991210
The Koreans have pretty massive self-esteem issues, seeing as they're the unironic niggers of East Asia without SEA and arguably even with SEA (since those guys developed their own culture and had a bunch of pretty stronk kingdoms for a while).

>>15991234
Korean society is basically Zerg. Kids are forced with 16 hour school days, and when they graduate, they get conscription in the Korean military, which is a shithole.

They're all drones, even worse than North Koreans, and they have every social issue you can name. Also, they're cripplecocks. There's a reason why nobody visits South Korea.

Is this balsy or just dumb?
>>15991106
I'm back

>>15991370
it's fine against AI

>>15991370
It's a dead wait, so I'd put it under "dumb". This is especially true since you recently discarded 1pin which would have given you a decent ryanmen wait (4/7pin) tenpai

>>15991406
Oh wait, you won off of that. My bad. Still, the better wait should be prioritized if the hand value doesn't change

>>15991370
You literally can't win because all the chuns are visible though, unless you just won off that? A hell wait on a word tile is a good baiting tactic because nobody is going to keep those and the only two waits that can be possible for a word tile with three (incluing the one in your hand) visible tiles is a hell wait or kokushi musou.

>>15991436
he won

>>15991436
>>15991492
am I Akagi yet?

unrelated. but does anyone know how to run games that require directx8 or below? i cant run d3dwindower on this game 野性の闘牌　鰻

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-0osrESGfd0

the absolute madman, I'm actually doin it, wish me luck

>>15991532

>>15991765
AM I AKAGI YET, GUYS?

3:0

>>15990285
nothing is sacred anymore

does this mean I can start reading Ten?

>>15992528
Go ahead, any confusion can be resolved with a trip to the mahjong lexicon on osamuko

>>15992629
Too bad it's dead.

>>15990285
The jews won't even let me have my fucking chinese tile game.

Can someone analyze my game? I read dynaman's book but I'm still struggling to complete hands. Am I betaoring too much or not making enough calls? Does my tile efficiency still need work or should I just keep less safety tiles in hand?

http://tenhou.net/0/?log=2016102013gm-0009-0000-7cd464e3&tw=2

After a year that started in the low 1200s, I finally managed to make my way back to 1500 ish and just broke my own barrier and ranked up.

I love this game sometimes

>>15994131

East 1

Dealt in to a different hand with a suji tile instead of throwing the safe tile you still had (7-pin) I also assume you realized a turn late that the 8-sou and 8-pin were called from his discards, so they were safe tiles

East 2

You probably should have gotten rid of the west pair when you drew the 3 man. The timing you chose to get rid of them was quite odd.

East 3

If you'd have chi'd the dora, you not only would have had a more valuable hand, but a better wait for tsumo and for ron due to it being safe against the riichi.

3rd South 1

Throwing the 9 pin was unsafe and set your hand back incase you wanted to attack. The 3 pin was a safe tile.

Your offense seemed passable for as much as saw, but your defense was pretty bad.

>>15994131
That guy next to you really went full pon palace.

>>15994131
e1: difficult situation with multiple tenpais. full betaori was certainly the way to go. Discarding 7maan and dealing in could have been avoided had you fully commited to folding, but you pursued a half-assed "I'll try to carefully advance my hand" attitude that got you in that mess. Believe me, I've been there. Your hand value wasn't worth the risk.

e2: you drew 3m giving you 344m which you broke into 34m. since you had a pair of guest winds and another much more useful pair, you should have kept the 4m and broken up your west wind pair. 344m can become a set if you draw 245m (potentially 10 tiles) west only will be useful if you draw another one of the remaining two. you also open the possibility of tanyao.

Discarding 7m instead of 9m was also a mistake. a 9m on its own will only be useful if you draw two more. at least with 7m, you have more options. I understand you might have figured that you'll toss both anyway, so start with the riskier tile, a good idea, but in the early draws of a round, prioritize the tiles that give you the highest chance of becoming full melds.

http://tenhou.net/2/
use this to practice tile efficiency on your phone when you're not busy. it's helped me tremendously.

Would you riichi?

>>15994377
Even if it isn't smart, I probably would because of the 3 man that just came out. I have a habit of betting with that kind of situation that someone both has the tile in question, and will think it's their safest option.

>>15994377
I'd deal the 8m but keep it dama. If you draw a 7s you might be able to incorporate it into your hand by discarding 5-8p or 3m.

>>15994390
>>15994411

>>15994712
ayyyy

This poor guy. I bet he thought the ton would be completely safe against that scary looking dealer mangan.

>>15994723
And he was right.

>>15994726
>>15994723
That discard pile is literally textbook kokushi mosou.

>>15994728
He probably tunnel visioned on the dealer after he started making dangerous looking calls.

>>15994733
Does tenhou have double yakuman or not again
I mean he can be glad it wasn't the 13-ended version.

>>15994771
Tenhou doesn't have double yakuman, sadly.

>>15994775
I got hit with junsei chuuren in a real life match once.

>>15994726
That is some fucking bullshit you had there.

>>15995004
It wasn't though. Like if we actually look at south's discard pile
Why did they get rid of tsumogiri anyway

>>15995007
Makes it too easy. You can still tell tsumogiri, you just have to pay attention to the actual discard.

>>15995020
Does it actually work that way? I know for a fact that the discards are randomly chosen if you don't tsumogiri.

2.0

>>15995022
I mean you can't tell which tile it was, but you can at least tell it was tedashi. Watch the hands next time you play one.

3.0

>>15995007
3 SW visible
3 nw visible
3 1sou visible
3 1man visible
3 1pin visible
3 9sou visible
3 hatsu visible
4 ew visible

That discard pile tells me chanta/Jun way more than a massively unlikely kokushi

>>15991777
and I am back

I think I understand the magical sand now

>>15996675
>isn't rinshan kaihou

>>15996675
then it's time to move to tenhou

>>15996693
>>15996696
I barely scrapped by this game, but I do like to take risks

I would have been an absolute KANman

>>15996789

>>15996800
>tfw got choked out of tsuuiisou once because of suukantsu

>East 1
>Riichi with a pinfu, potential iipeikou, dora ichi with a great sanmen machi
>Shimocha oikakes with a shitty kanchan, I happen to deal into the ippatsu with his only winning tile left for Haneman

>East 2
>Possible comeback Ikkitsukan with all outs available gets destroyed because the Shimocha deals into a double ron, the round wind shifts because of this and I lose the repeat round to try and comeback

>East 3
>Comeback open chinitsu haneman with ryanmen machi ruined because Toimen ippatsumos with a haneman

>East 4
>Potential comeback closed sanshoku chanta iipeikou dora dora baiman ruined because Kamicha ippatsumos with a mangan

I'm about done with SegaNET. Ippatsu every round, open Kan becoming Dora 4 every other round, this shit is wholly ridiculous. At least when I lose in Tenhou it feels like I was generally bested by people who had better play overall; in SegaNET its either fucktards who call on literally every single tile to build the fastest, cheapest gomi hand possible every round or people who Riichi every time with awful waits because they can get away and win faster regardless because they've been blessed with the luck of fucking God himself and hit 2+ ura every time.

I want to fucking die, this shit infuriates me.

>just learned the LA jansou has been expanded with new autotables

I cannot wait to slap those tiles

>>15997798
Spiffy

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZLfLYNH6Ezg

>>15994775
What? I swear I've seen a replay where someone got a triple yakuman even.

>>15998596
Multiple yakuman stack together, but yakuman are never worth double. Suuankou tanki, 13-sided kokushi, 9-sided chuuren and daisuushii are all worth one yakuman only.

>>15998654
The 9 and 13 sided versions are like their own reward anyway, they're almost undefendable.

>>15998654
I got daisuushi in tenhou once, kind of bullshit that it's worth the same as the small one.

Then again, if you can't get 1st after a yakuman, you were never meant to win

>>15999503
I still have a replay where Corak and I bumped into each other in L0 back when we were still in joukyuu. He secured second place with a kokushi because I had the flow back then. I'll link it when I get home.

Guises, I think I accidentally broke my tenhou.
What the fuck did I get myself into? How do I go back to the main page to find game and shit?

ah nothing nicer than getting revenge on a cunt who's ron'd you. Where do you guys play multiplayer? Is Tenhou the best option?

>>16000109
It looks like you wandered into a tournament lobby. Try putting /lobby 0000 in the text box.

>>16000157
Yes, almost all the western players play on tenhou. Except for maybe a few on still JRM or ron2.

>>15999503
I remember seeing a guy get shousuushii via rinshan kaihou and he still didn't get first place

>>16000195
You're a lifesaver, anon.

3:0

>>15997798
>Had to cancel for some bullshit social obligation

Kill me

I hate mahjong.

>>16002500

clearly you need better priorities

what could possibly be more important than chinese tile matching games

>>16000967
we got some things going on here
>starting off with BEER brand beer

>>16006866
good fucking catch

>>16007001
>can we talk about the faucet dildo

>>16007121
Yeah I didn't even realize what the fuck

>first place during south 4
>safe from anything short of getting ronned by a baiman by 2nd place
>CLOSED daisangen
Fuck?

>mahjong

>>16007785
Closed daisangen is like when you mug someone and you think he's weak but he's actually the main antagonist of a fighting shonen and you're just fodder to make him look good

>>16007793
There's no way to win in mahjong. Even if you come in first you still lose.

>>16006866
What is that pink thing?

>>16008340
Looks like one of those double dildoes lesbians use

I almost cried when I got nothing out of this.

>>16008501
Ouch.

>>16008501
>Dora 11
Jesus fucking Christ fuck off Kuro

3.0

I feel violated.

>>16010153
>still has points
Call me when your legs are dangling off the edge for rounds at a time

Anyone play sega's mj for mobile?

>thoughts?

>>15980783
Haha a similar thing happened to me like a year ago:
First round, some guy declares riichi after like 3 discards. I discard whatever I feel safe-ish and walk right into the guy's hand consisting of a massive pile of dora. 32000. Instant death. Game lasted like 2 minutes. Welp...

>>16008501
>got nothing out of this
And that will not be the last time. Shit like that happens often enough.

>>15994723
>>15994726
>muh tenpai

>>16011125
Man I don't even remember half the people from Achishit

>>16010625
It's basically the same as the desktop client except mobile. I play it all the time, though since I cracked my phone it's been discarding tiles randomly whenever my screen makes contact with the sun and its fucking infuriating.

>>16011554
Let me deflect that for you

>>16012133
Get out of /jp/.

Actually, just leave the site.

>>16011141
She was a nobody from the start.
The only good things that come out of ashitga are Toki and wifi lesbian.
And of coz, the porn.

Yo that pastebin link is down, anybody got a backup?

>>16012851
Works for me, but here's the copy/paste of it.

>New to riichi
Read this before playing
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Japanese_Mahjong
http://curms.soc.srcf.net/wiki/index.php?title=A_Beginner's_Guide_To_Riichi_Mahjong
http://osamuko.com/complete-beginners-guide-to-online-mahjong-part-1-how-to-play

Or just play this over and over again.
http://www.gamedesign.jp/flash/mahjong/mahjong_e.html

>Playing on PC
Singleplayer:
Gamedesign Flash game. See above.
4Winds. Also capable of using other mahjong rules.
Saikyo no Mahjong 3D.
Touhou Unreal Mahjong. Latest version is 4N.

Multiplayer:
Tenhou. Most regularly played. No-frills, but competitive.
tenhou.net/0/?L7447 (change to L0 for regular lobby)
SEGA Net Mahjong MJ. Relatively popular. Also available on smartphone.
https://sites.google.com/site/mjnetguide/home
Other titles: ron2, Maru-Jan, JRM, etc.

>Playing on Android
SEGA Net Mahjong MJ. See above.
Mahjong Tengokuhai ( 麻雀 天極牌 ). Good singleplayer mode, can also play multiplayer.
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=jp.co.hangame.s_mahjong
Kindai Mahjong All-Stars ( 近代麻雀オールスターズ　闘牌伝 ). Unlock characters from Kindai Mahjong series and play them.
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=jp.co.cygames.tohaiden
Mahjong and Friends Japan. Singleplayer for plebs.
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.mjguy.android.games.mjfjpfree

>Manga
Akagi series. Mahjong for gentlemen with sharp nose. Also includes Ten, Hero, and Washizu.
Saki series. Mahjong for lesbian. Also includes Side-A: Achiga and Shinohayu.
Others: Tetsuya, Mudazumo, and other titles from Kindai Mahjong.

>Anime
Akagi, Kaiji, Saki, etc. Basically same as above.

>Live Action
Janki/Shin Janki.
Tohai.
Akagi.

>Further reading
http://osamuko.com
http://justanotherjapanesemahjongblog.blogspot.com
http://riichi.dynaman.net
http://arcturus.su/tenhou/ and http://arcturus.su/wiki/

>>16012869
Is there any way to read Osamuko? All I see is pic related

>>16013474
No. Maybe you should click every link on the page until you find out why. It only took me a few seconds.

>>16013474
No. See >>15976108

>>15976108
This is what mahjong does to people.

>get ron'd
>Audibly beg the screen to stop as the yaku list keeps growing

>>15976108
I'd like to see a source for that claim.

>>16015041
>East round, have over 20k points
>Get ron'd
>"whatever, it's probably a small hand"
>Before the yaku even start listing see the END button on the bottom

>>16015359
look on their discord

>>16015359
Oh my god JC, a ron!

>>16015416

>>16013474
I used the way machine to view a month old version of the site. Nothing new obviously but you can read the articles and access the glossary

FUCK YOUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU

Sweet comeback from 16k ron'ed.
The mahjong god was truly testing my faith.
Won all 3 with yolo kanchan wait. How likely was that

>>16008501
Makes you want to cry, doesn't it?

>>15976108
Wait, osamu actually killed himself? I thought people were just memeing.

>>16018404
someone is still posting in his twitter

>>16018518
Dug through their discord and this is apparently what happened:
>Some people were getting angry at this not being a proper "mahjong" channel. Osamu wanted a definite solution to all the drama, so he asked me for admin rights and I gave admin to him. He tried to block everyone from using the channel. I took his admin away and tried to restore the channel but I suck at Discord. I assigned new and better admins. Hopefully gets solved.

So I guess he just rage quit the internet.

http://tenhou.net/0/?log=2016102506gm-0009-0000-f3dbe177&tw=2

Stay outta ippan, clown.

2:0

>>16017123
Player deals in. You drop a place. Yea, that's joukyuu.

>>16018548
That explains everything.

This level of greed does not pay.

>>16023269
What would that have been worth? 2 from riichi, menzen ippatsu, dora. A mangan? As opposed to the 4 han single wait on 5m?

>>15991777
Should've waited on chun

>>15994377
Yeah. With riichi it's a guaranteed mangan (tanyao, pinfu, riichi, akadora, dora), if you win on the 3m or get any ura it's haneman. If you don't riichi it might not even be mangan.

It's a good wait regardless.

>>15998654
I can get the first 3 but daisuushii not being worth double is the biggest fucking bullshit.

2:0

3:0

>>16024569
>If you don't riichi it might not even be mangan.
Dealer 4 han 30 fu is 11600 and dealer mangan is 12000. That's only a 400 point difference.

>>16024713
I guess that's true.

>start out with 7 pinzu
>closed chinitsu tenpai by turn 7

3:0 again.

>starting hand is iishanten for a mangan
Awesome, this will really turn th-
>Simocha declares abortive draw

Fuuuuuuuuck

>>16024867
You don't know frustration until you get a starting hand in iishanten and end up never getting tenpai all the way until a draw.

>>16024963
You don't know frustration until kyuushuu kyuuhai after your double riichi

>>16024969
You don't know frustration until your potential sanbaiman gets cancelled by a suura riichi

>>16024969
Reminds me of that picture of a guy with a double riichi hand, but to call the riichi he'd have to drop a tile that would trigger a reset because of 4 of the same wind tiles.

So close, but alas someone dealt in.

>>16025300
Also, I'm painfully aware that this would've been kokushi tenpai (might've even been a kokushi win, I'd have to check)

Considering this was my starting hand though, I didn't expect it to turn into kokushi.

2.0

>Riichi pinfu tsumo is 3han but worth only 2700
Is it better to just go dama in this case or is it still worth riiching despite the risks for such a low scoring hand?

>>16025345
3.0

>>16025360
It's one of the things that really bother me about Mahjong's scoring system, but in that case, getting only 1 ura would double your hand's score.

3 han 20 fu = 2600
4 han 20 fu = 5200

Honestly, fu is just retarded.

>>16025313
It can't be helped. I've thrown away a suuanko and tsuuiisou.

Are you ready for some tanoshii?

3:0

>>16026119
Unfortunately, this actress's mahjong isn't near that of the real deal.

About time I got one of these.

>>16026797
That's my first time seeing one of those, neat. Can you get an open chuuren poutou?

>>16027745
Nope

>>16027745
>>16027879
I tried. This one didn't pan out.

>play well and stay ahead the whole match
>bullshit hands start happening S3/S4
>get placed second
FUCK. This happened way too often recently.

>>16030446
You can't open Chuuren my man, otherwise it'd be one of the easiest yakuman ever
I mean you CAN open it, it's just not a yakuman anymore even if it's still massive.

>>16030944
When leading, use cheap hands to shove the game ahead. Prevent those big hands from even happening.

>>16030944
I know that feel bro

>>16031812
>I'm in the lead, time for a cheap open tanyao
>Other players somehow manage faster mangans

>>16010299
Ayyy.

First time I see a Daisuushii (L0000 game).

>>16032702
And looking at the replay, that guy had all four wind pairs right off the bat. WTF.

>>16032702
>>16032717

Pretty good puns.

I was going to give toimen shit for tossing out east after he already called south and and west, but I probably would have done the same.

3:0

What a waste.

>>16036522
>tfw when you're suddenly facing 3 mahjong gods as a lowly 2-dan, and they score a shousuushii in the first few rounds.

>>16032399
Clearly, you were doing it wrong

October is ending. Post your month:

18+17+12+17 = 64戦

>mfw, four 4th's this weekend

Shit way to close the month

>>16040592
37+42+41+21 = 141
It's at this moment that I realise I might be getting addicted.

>2 days ago
>50 points to 3-dan
>now
>190 points to go

>>16040592
>>16040606
Jesus, you guys are bad.

>>15987830
I actually found the mahjong arc in Kaiji to be very helpful, after each chapter, there is a page discussing rules and what happened and whatnot. Wish I had read this before Akagi
http://bato.to/reader#1bab2bdb5ec9c9d3
http://bato.to/reader#f9feb169356be5ee

>>16040746
Don't be like that, anon.

>>16040756
I haven't played mahjong in more than two years but back then I got to 5 dan with ease.

>>16040746
Are you a bully?

>>16040592
Could have been worse, I suppose, but I still haven't regained the R and ranks I lost.

>>16040592
27+27+21+18
It was even better a week ago before I tilted and went on a losing streak.

What's with all these Naki no Ryuu references recently? First Osomatsu, then 3-gatsu no Lion, and now this.

>>16026119
YES
Hisa actress where tho

2.0

3.0

>>16043120
http://www.saki-project.jp/

When did sangatsu reference naki no ryuu? They recently announced a new series for it, so it's fresh in people's minds

>>16043374
this again

>0:4

>>16040592
Could have traded 3 of the 2nd places for 1st.

>>16040592
1-1-1-4. My last game had a hand where I just randomly cut a tile and dealt into a closed wait ippatsu for a dealer mangan. Fun times.

Probably wont play tomorrow, but all in all, aside from a few bad calls, I'm happy with my progress.

I've managed to rank up and have worked my R back up to where it was before the megatilt (almost!)

>>16044765
>>16041054
>>16040606
>>16040592
>>16040592
>>16042382
>>16044457

>>16044765
>>16041054
>>16040606
>>16043907
>>16040592
>>16040592
>>16042382
>>16044457
what are your stats?

My prayers were answered. Thank you God.

>>16044817
I'm too terrible, senpai.

>>16043400
3-gatsu puked some next level referencing in that episode.
Remember when the fat kid changed drawing styles? He turned into a Noujou Junichi character. People thought it was a general reference to Gekka no Kishi (his long running shougi manga), but the specific pose he made was clearly Ryuu.
And then at the end of the episode, it turned out that they got Noujou himself to draw the end card.

>>16040592

If the dealer calls riichi, and it's still within the first 5 discards, do you push your hand if you're in tenpai or fold? What if you only have 1 safe tile?

I just keep telling myself it's not real.

>>16046552
Push probably. Early riichi typically has weak waits or aren't that powerful.

This can certainly blow up in your face, but in general go for it.

>>16046552
Depends on the points and what round it is and how good your hand is, obviously, but being in tenpai already and only having one safe tile are reasons to push.

how do i play these weird chinese dominos

>>16046819
Use the op's pastebin resources to learn.

Have fun getting SUFFERING

>>16046819
Walk away and never look back. There is only suffering here.

Read the guides etc, getting ronned hard by ai. Any tips?

>>16047484
>Any tips?

Pull the trigger.

>>16047484
Tile efficiency and defense. Read the justanotherjapanesemahjongblog guides.

>>16047484
Know your yaku and when to fold

>>16045296
It's okay. This is a no-bully zone. No one will laugh at you.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rb4pN9Babz4
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=78_v0uDjArU
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UKyHE5BT9R4

>>16043120
>Read making no ryuu
>It's actually pretty bad

I'm fine with edge Lord MCs, but Jesus Christ every page is essentially "ugly and flabbergasted yakuza deals into weird wait"

I'm convinced that my health gets worse the better I get at mahjong. Is this how it ends?

>>16050055

>saw 2 rinshans today
I want the lesbians to leave.

This is retarded luck. And I'm glad I was the one getting it.

http://tenhou.net/0/?log=2016110207gm-0089-0000-0454acf3&tw=0

>>16051963
>+109

Were they even trying?

>>16046819
Do you like life?

Don't play Crazy Weeaboo Dominoes.

>riichi on a 1-4 pinzu wait early in the round
>The fucking tiles are apparently in hiding since no one is discarding and the tsumo isn't happening
>Toimen riichi's on a tanki hell wait on the dora tile

OF COURSE! OF FUCKING COURSE I HADTO DEAL INTO A GODDAMN DEALER HANEMAN ON A SHIT WAIT. A RYANMEN WAIT THAT INCLUDES A TERMINAL? NO SIR! LUCK ONLY EXISTS FOR THE ASSHOLES THAT DEFY REALITY

FUUUUUUUUCK

>>16054659
This kind of bullshit makes me question why I am torturing myself with this chinese dominoes everyday.

>>16054659
It's just proof that Mahjong exists only to cause suffering.

i've been playing the flash game alot, but im scared to go against people

hold me

Uradora are so retarded sometimes.

>>16055883
I used to play nothing but the flash game but playing against people is simply a lot more fun. I also learnt a lot more in my first few tenhou games than I did in dozens against AI.

>>16055883
The first game against other people is always scary, but after that, there's no going back to AI. It's just not as good as playing against human beings.

>>16055883
Another thing for me is that losing to AI felt way more insulting, losing to some dude that's likely to be better than me can even feel nice sometimes when it's a good match.

>>16058524
I hate AI because they can win at any time. What if they randomly set up their hand to be a dealer baiman without manually drawing it because they're in last? What if they shuffle the wall so you deal into their daisangen suuankou tanki after you call riichi? I always half ass playing against AI because they can pull bullshit at any time, there's no point in playing seriously. There's no tension.

>>16058543
one of the ai keep going god mode and the other 2 are shit

>get a daisangen
>...vs bots

Welp, there goes luck for the day

>>16059484
Yeah I never get it when I actually need it

>>16059484
It doesn't take luck to score yakuman against bots. So you're fine.

>>16056322
Faced with that riichi, that 4-dan was retarded. Then again with three calls like that, he was fucked anyways.

>>16062871
She looks so done with this bullshit mahjong.

>>16062871
I am not OK with this.

>>16062871
They're making a live action naked mahjong series?

>>16062871
Muh cat.
Why did they have to ruin her.

>>16063068
Yes. The actress will also be getting breast transplant along the way to stay true to its series.

Watching your 1-shanten kokushi musou die as the last of one of the honour tiles gets dealt is the worst fucking thing.

>>16051963
http://tenhou.net/0/?log=2016110503gm-0089-0000-baf2f4f1&tw=0


Another one. Kamicha got really lucky in the end.

>>16064197
The mahjong god shall strike you down one of these days for this bullshit luck.

>>16064315
To earn favor with the Mahjong Demons you must stick a potato into your ass.

>dama tenpai for Chinitsu ryanpeikoi
>Pretty much a sanbaiman if anyone deals in
>Other player riichi, all eyes on him

....round ends

This game breaks my heart sometimes...

>>16070096
I feel like the hottest shit when I have a dama hand and someone else calls riichi, all the while I'm thinking "They'll definitely fold against him and deal in to me in the process".

Only it ends up with people dealing into the riichi anyway. Fucking cunts don't care about dealing in as long as it's not me.

3.0

>>16064315
I'm already paying for it.

>>16072018
You had too much fun Anon, clearly you need some suffering or it's not mahjong anymore.

tenhou down for anyone else? says 0 people online

>>16072789
Just you. Seems fine on my side.

>>16072789
first osamuko now tenhou, is mahjong dead?

Don't do this.

>>16074545
It looks like you passed up a ron on that 1sou. If you did, you deserve everything you got.

>>16074999
Nah, I had just gotten into tenpai.

Ok, my question doesn't really concern mahjong at all. But I think there's a good chance of there being some overlap in players, so I'll ask here before making a new thread. Hope you guys don't mind too much.

How should I go about learning Shogi? Online resources are pretty scarce at least when it comes to English information. I know the absolute basics, but I'm interested in learning about openings, general study and such. There's a few videos on Youtube about some openings that vary wildly in quality (sound & general production), most of which seem pretty bad in that front I guess I should just soldier through the bad audio quality and take the information in with open arms. But if you guys have any websites or even books to suggest I'd be extremely delighted.

Thank you, and sorry about invading your thread.

>>15973720
ewww riichi is the most disgusting type of mahjong

2:0

3:0

Why he needed those?

>>16075658
He didn't. It was just an excuse to get his blood injected back in, while keeping it a secret from everyone.

>>16075503
MCR please leave

>>16075434
It's all good.
I looked into shogi slightly after being accosted by a guy by a river while playing yakuza5 (also good for mahjong fyi) if you can get your hands on that one, you'll be able to play with an English system. The pieces will still be original however.

I don't know how much information you'll get out of this group sadly, but keep at it. It's an uphill battle to get into Japanese traditional games as a westerner, but if this happy bunch is any indication, it can be done.

>>16075434
>How should I go about learning Shogi?
You can thank based Gamedesign

http://gamedesign.jp/flash/shogi/shogi_e.html

I only beat level 7 once, and can't even scratch level 8. I feel so noob.

3:0

>>16077195
1:4

>>16075434
You should learn to play Go instead.

>>16079735
Go is just placing circles strategically to fill the board yeah? Seems way easier to learn than Shogi with it's bullshit moves this AI is pulling. Pieces jumping from across the board somehow while I'm just playing it like a game of chess. Won two or three games though so I'm somewhat cool with it.

>>16079771
My expert opinion after playing for a couple of hours is, Shogi is a more aggressive game where there are more options to trap the opposing king (especially with dropping pieces) rather than wear down the opponents forces.

>>16079735
But I already know Go on a pretty good level. I'm still learning Joseki, but my Life & Death knowledge is pretty solid.

http://tenhou.net/0/?log=2016110822gm-0089-0000-a324aa43&tw=0

Well, that was quick.

>>16080469
that's what she said

>>16080469
Toumei should have played around it. What a shitter.

anyone up for a game? http://tenhou.net/0/?L7447

2:0

3:0

>>16080469
Koizumi would be pleased

Are there any html5 versions of this?

I don't have flash and want to teach a friend.

>>16085465
Tenhou has an html5 version.

>>16085564
Shit, this is pretty awful. Guess it was designed for phones or tablets or something.

>>16085465
There's .exe versions too, and some Android apps

>>16086157
What are the best Android apps for mahjong by the way?

>>16086940
There's a few that look alright but I found one that lets you play locally through wifi and such. There used to be a guy asking to have a 1v1 with a pal so this would work fine. Haven't given it a good look ever though so it might be trash.

What are the best weeb mahjong games? I want to look at cute anime girls while I learn how to play.

>>16086940
I like virtual tenhoG on android

>>16087982
There has to be some strip mahjong game out there.

>>16088017
I'm sure there are loads for all 90's Japanese PCs. I don't know specifically of any good ones, though.

>>16088017
Get some friends together and give it a shot.

What? Don't you know three hot bitches ready to take it of at the sound of RON?

>>16088017
Googling strip mahjong gave me a movie. This is a good thing right?

>>16087982
The Saki PSP games are pretty fun. Just remember to turn off their superpowers in free play if you actually want to learn anything.

>>16088017
Play Animahjong.

>>16088017
There's an official EVA strip mahjong.
No I don't have a link, I fucking wish I did. It's on wikipedia though so it must be true.

>>16088018
What game is that from?