/jp/ - Otaku Culture

This thread is a trap made by a ban-otaku.

Tread lightly

That place is for nerds.

My suggestions:
- Ban idol threads
- Ban steam/dota threads
- Ban kigurumi threads
- Stop making so many weird touhou fetish threads like that smelly patchy one

Bring back warosu posting

ban all generals and ban all users with posts outside of /jp/

>>15895115
I asked a mod on IRC and was told that it was okay to have one of these threads so I think we're safe for the time being.

You never know, though.

>>15895136
(in the past year)

hehe clean it up janny

>>15895152
Please don't harass the staff or post garbage in this thread. Half the reason /jp/ looks like it does today is because of people like you.

>>15895159

>>15895129
/ghost/ is no more ;_;

>>15895184
been that way for a while newfag

Are any of you going to make a suggestion with an actual chance of being implemented sometime this year?

>>15895184
There are a dozen spinoffs where you can hang out with the remnants of the warosu community as much as you like. The /jp/ archive was originally for discussion of /jp/.

There really is no need for a new one, there will be nothing new said and no consensus reached just like with the last thread.
A few days ago some idiot tried to make the same thread like 8 times and they'd have ended the same way.
At most you'll get that most people think moderation is not a good spot but no one can decide if it's because it is too much or too little.

>>15895205
I think it's fine. There was mod or janitor that tried way too hard like 6 months-a year ago, but their either mellowed out or fucked off.

>>15895200
>Are any of you going to make a suggestion with an actual chance of being implemented sometime this year?
There has been no indication that any of these threads on any board would lead to any changes, much like the "unofficial" /jp/ meta threads we have every week. The only consensus I could really see reached was "delete generals", but that's a pipe dream.

I said my part in the last one, but I guess I can summarize it again: Generals and cutepost threads are strangling the potential that /jp/ has for slow, high quality threads. There's also of course the issue of some threads getting deleted when it seems more like a personal decision of the janitor to get it yanked rather than a more direct stance on what constitutes "otaku culture", but I'm not sure if that's something that can be addressed by a thread like this. For the record, I agree with most deletions, but some threads like that otaku killer one I think deserved to live. Delete the off-topic posts, not the thread.

just bring back the neet threads and all is well

>>15895239
Yes please! When they first got voted out I tried going to /r9k/ but it was terrible in there. Not cozy and warm at all.

I think /jp/ is pretty much fine the way it is, honestly.

i don't

/jp/ You mean Janny/Generals?

>>15895217
>but some threads like that otaku killer one I think deserved to live. Delete the off-topic posts, not the thread.
"Serial killers" was barely /jp/ as it is, the only relevance was the guy being a weirdo otaku, and 80% of the thread being about law. I'm not sure why anybody would expect anything different to happen with that much of a derail.

Delete the shitty I'm in Japan wat do xD threads.

Deleting /vg/ and making an actual Japan/General board is all that needs to be done to "fix" /jp/. All the topics /vg/ took away can come back and all the threads about actual 3D Japan can go to the other board.

Moderation is okay now, but the mods are getting lazy and need to clean up the fetish threads they allow.

What would making /jp/ any more restricted and niche even accomplished? /jp/ is already extremely dead so making it even more dead would be rather pointless as it would be better to just remove /jp/ all together.

Considering how slow and dead /jp/ is it's not really that hard to filter away threads you dislike.

>>15895920
/jp/ is slow? maybe if youre used to /a/b/v/

i bumped a thread and 5 mins later it's barely in the top 5 threads

Make a containment board for generals, called /gen/, or ban generals from all 4chan. That's all really. Things like visible sage are just adornments.

>>15895717
>Deleting /vg/
So where will the non-/jp/ games go? That's most of the games in there.

>>15895920
>Considering how slow and dead /jp/ is
/jp/ is fine as far as speed is concerned
We ｄｏ　ｉｔ　ｓｌｏｗｌｙ．．．

>>15896001
/v/
Also, as above posters have said, /e/, /h/, /c/, and /d/ content shouldn't really be on /jp/

>>15896014
/v/ is no place to hold game discussion.

>>15896014
Forcing all the generals on /vg/ back to /v/ is a complete contradiction of wanting to move generals off of /jp/.

>>15896030
>where will the non-/jp/ games go?
I said non-/jp/ games will go to /v/. I never said for generals to go to /v/. I said generals should be on /gen/ or nowhere at all.

>>15896056
>non-/jp/ games will go to /v/
>>15896023

/jp/ is too fast

>>15896065
4chan is for discussion: I especially don't understand what's wrong with having discussion on a blue board.

>>15896091
Yes, but /v/ is still a shithole and there's no way all those people in /vg/ will be able to discuss any shit on /v/.

>>15896001
>That's most of the games in there.
No it's not. The majority of the games fall into
-Weebshit
-MMORPGs, probably anime style
-VNs, western or not
-Other arguably /jp/ things like eroge, japanese mobile games, and rpg maker games that are possibly japanese.

The rest can go back to /v/ or some appropriate board. Ones that are about dead games can just die, they don't need a general.

>>15896030
Unlike /jp/, /v/ is fast enough to self-prune dead generals.

>>15896023
>/v/ is no place to hold game discussion.
It's a perfect place to disrupt the formation of little shitty subcommunities.

Also as the person who posted >>15895717, I didn't say the topics couldn't remain generals on /jp/. In fact, I only want the generals about 3d things to go. I don't care if vocaloid and onaholes and Kancolle, and other shit like that that I don't like stay in generals.

>>15896094
>Yes, but /v/ is still a shithole and there's no way all those people in /vg/ will be able to discuss any shit on /v/.
Oh well, maybe they should focus on trying to improve their board.

Every other fucking shit board like /a/, /v/, and /vg/ itself keep trying to come here because they feel their boards are shit, but instead of actually caring about it like /jp/sies, they just want to move away and then bring the same shit that ruined their board to the new ones. "Oh no I can't discuss anything on /s/! Better move to /jp/ and continue to post /s/ threads all over until it becomes /s/2!"

Just by curiosity, does anyone else think that /jp/ was way better years ago when it felt more like a community and less like a series of generals? Like, when we could actually have fun with NEET threads and homoerotic threads? I even remember a guy who went to a gloryhole and posted pics of himself in there. That kind of stuff was fun and made the board a lot more friendly and cozy. Are there even many people here left from that era?

>>15896094
Then /v/ needs to improve. All of 4chan should be good. If /vg/ posters are good, then they'd make /v/ a better place by going there. I go neither to /v/ nor /vg/ so I don't know the dynamics of those boards.

>>15896119
It was definitely better that way. I was there for part of that era, and while my memory is faint, I remember it as a good time.

I think the biggest problem is that things people post are being deleted.

Just delete things that are illegal or extremely off topic.

The /jp/ community itself will bump interesting good threads and let rubbish get bumped off the board.

The moderators are extremely strict to the point they scare people away from creating good threads and posts. What we are left with is almost exclusively copy/paste pastebin generals, and other low effort content.

JAPAN GENERAL

>>15896119
/jp/ Was horrible when it was full of off topic spam threads. NEETs/Hikkis have nothing to do with otaku at all. In fact I think the pro-neet thing is detrimental to otaku culture, which is based on consumerism, which is based on having money. What does a bunch of people who'd rather kill themselves than find themselves in the middle of a comiket crowd have to do with otaku culture?

All sorts of degenerate threads need to go. The crossdressing Chisame threads, gay dicksucking erp threads, Touhou futa threads. Why do you even want to shit up the board with that?

Most of the people that whine about "good old days" don't even want /jp/ to fucking be /jp/. They want /r9k/, in the sense of what /r9k/ became, but they don't want to go there because of the stupid insane frogposters. And they'd argue against me, but I'd tell them to go look at every shitty dead spinoff. That is the /jp they want. That is the /jp/ they made.

Legalize boobhu threads.

>>15896138
Stop whining about moderation and your posts will stop being deleted.

>extremely off topic.
So, neet threads, shitposts, whining about mods, /pol/itics, uncalled for memes, edgy racism, that sort of thing right?

>>15896119
I'm still here but I post exclusively in generals now. Community stuff was always fun even when it was off topic

>>15896158
>uncalled for memes
That's only "memes I don't like".

>>15896138
>The moderators are extremely strict to the point they scare people away from creating good threads and posts.

Pretty much. There's not much to be creative with.

I love the sillyness of these posts >>15893616 or >>15893982 but under the current modship they're at risk of getting deleted and/or banned.

>>15896158

You sound upset. Take it easy. I created an on topic thread and it was deleted, there's clearly a janitor here who is mistaking the rules for is personal taste in threads.

>>15896149
>/jp/ Was horrible when it was full of off topic spam threads. NEETs/Hikkis have nothing to do with otaku at all. In fact I think the pro-neet thing is detrimental to otaku culture, which is based on consumerism, which is based on having money. What does a bunch of people who'd rather kill themselves than find themselves in the middle of a comiket crowd have to do with otaku culture?
You realize that /jp/ wasn't always called Otaku Culture, right? Back then it was called Japan/General. Losers like us just normally tend to gravitate towards Japanese culture.

>All sorts of degenerate threads need to go. The crossdressing Chisame threads, gay dicksucking erp threads, Touhou futa threads. Why do you even want to shit up the board with that?
These things are fun. I like to imagine like I'm close with and sucking a /jp/ boy's dick because I know it'll never happen for real. This kind of love between the users is one of the things that made /jp/ very special and good years ago.

>Most of the people that whine about "good old days" don't even want /jp/ to fucking be /jp/. They want /r9k/, in the sense of what /r9k/ became, but they don't want to go there because of the stupid insane frogposters. And they'd argue against me, but I'd tell them to go look at every shitty dead spinoff. That is the /jp they want. That is the /jp/ they made.
You're not totally wrong, but /jp/ and /r9k/ always attracted different kind of losers. People on /r9k/ are just failed normalfags while we are the elite, the real deal.

>>15896167
*his

>>15896149
You clearly weren't around when /jp/ was first here.

>>15896158
Still way better than what we have now.

>>15896165
Memes people don't like are usually the shitty ones. Name a good meme that gets deleted. Spoiler: Daily doses aren't good memes.

In fact, even posting threads about dog hoops and Japanese birds are tantamount to some idiot going outside and shouting random "memes" he saw on the internet, like it gives him cool internet cred. They aren't doing it because it's interesting, but just because they want to go "Us memers, eh?" in their worst, they're just excuses to shitpost, like flanfly threads. There are already multiple boards for shitposting, why do they need to do it here?

I mean I'm not going to pretend I don't sometimes get banned for something as innocuous as putting two double-us next to each other, but making a whole thread just to post it is a bit much.

>>15896167
>I created an on topic thread and it was deleted, there's clearly a janitor here who is mistaking the rules for is personal taste in threads.
I wish the mods were less strict about global rule 7.

>>15896179
If you honestly believe a shitpost board is better than an on-topic board, then you need to leave. You are what's wrong with /jp/.

>>15895239
Yes, we need NEET threads

>>15896207
Pot calling the kettle black. Apparently to you, anything you don't like is equivalent to a shitpost.

>>15896202
>dog hoop
>done for anything other than true fun and interest
These three hoops represent the three rings. When Flan flies through them, elves leave middle-earth.

>>15896207

This is a shitposting board. The range of discussion is so limited people have nothing to do but do "approved" shitposting like cuteposting and the like.

>>15896173
I was going to reply seriously, but I've changed it to this:

I hope you're 100% ironically shitposting. Reconsider your life if you are even 1% not.

>>15896234
>Reconsider your life
If you're posting this, you're clearly in the wrong place.

>>15896228
Notice how your post is in an existent thread and replying to a post about memes. This is what is called "relevancy." imagine if you had instead made a new thread with just your words in it, no greentext. Would that be a thread with a purpose? Would that be called for?

>>15896241
No, if you want to erp and suck dicks, you're in the wrong place.

so there's actually two types trends here:

1. Let us go back to old school /jp/, free to post threads we like, to have fun and a sense of community

2. Some weird assborg rulecuck guy who likes being banned and having his shit deleted.

So what about splitting jp into two boards? Then everyone will be happy

>>15896244
Yes, the purpose would be creativity, with the prompt and framework being /jp/ heritage hoops.

I promise we have /jpg/ for generals

>>15896249
So you want /jp/ to be split into two boards just to satisfy one rulefaggot?

>>15896256
Most of the generals on /jp/ belong on /vg/ anyway. Maybe it's time we have /gg/ for any kind of genreal.

>>15896234
I'm 100% serious and I don't see why it would be so surprising. Plenty of people used to come on /jp/ for the same reason. I just want to hang out with a bunch of like-minded people and feel like they love me.

>>15896138
>I think the biggest problem is that things people post are being deleted.
>Just delete things that are illegal or extremely off topic.
>The /jp/ community itself will bump interesting good threads and let rubbish get bumped off the board.
>The moderators are extremely strict to the point they scare people away from creating good threads and posts. What we are left with is almost exclusively copy/paste pastebin generals, and other low effort content.

I don't get this either, I'm personally just lurking most of the time, but I noticed that people often make threads about Japan which end up getting deleted for some reason.

I thought everything Japan related should be fine on /jp/ but that is not the case, meanwhile 60% of the threads are just 2hu.

>>15896267
As opposed to moving as many of the generals to /vg/ as we can?

>>15896249
>2. Some weird assborg rulecuck guy who likes being banned and having his shit deleted.

There's more then one person who doesn't like this NO FUN, EXCEPT JANITOR APPROVED FUN

>>15896269
If you want to talk about Japan, just go on /weebpol/ or something.

>>15896271
Yeah, two people. The janitor and the mod who's helping him.

I say we take it easy

i want legal immunity for all of /jp/'s boobhus

>>15896267
or /jpg/! that would solve the problem perfectly

>>15896269

Perfect example of this was my single thread attempt at bring some different otaku culture.

>>/jp/thread/S15876861

Now if people weren't interest, that's fine let my thread die. Totally normal, but to delete the thread? How is that justifiable unless someone thinks that military otakuism isn't real otakuism.

>>15896283
>>>/e/

>>15896286
/jpg/ could work but not all generals are Japan-related. /mu/ has its kpop problem.

This thread again?
Just move the generals to where they belong and keep everything as it is. Although I've honestly just learned to stop caring about them.

>>15896289
Boobhus belong on /jp/. It's their home. >>>/e/ is a NSFW board when none of them are nude.

>>15896288
yes this is the same kind of problem that I have had many many times.
The mods don't understand that bad threads are left to be bumped off. That's how an imageboard works.

I've made similar types of threads about japanese culture that aren't commond and don't have a touhou picture, so they got removed.

Now these thread creators leave and you are left with a soulless barren imageboard whose only posts are copied and pasted versions of threads that the mod somehow rules doesn't need to be censored.

It's time for more freedom on /jp/, the community will direct itself.

>>15896288
Your thread was more about the weapon than weapon otaku. Weapon otaku are a real thing, truly, as seen in Otaku no Video, so maybe orient your thread towards otaku.

>>15896289
There is nothing wrong with lewd touhou threads on /jp/
It's a huge facet of ``otaku culture''

Reminder that according to janny this >>15729164 is a perfectly fine thread to have on a SFW Otaku Culture board

>But Anon, I only see some half-naked whores there! What's Otaku Culture about that?

Shhh

>>15896302
Boobhus aren't lewd. They're for babies to suck on.

>>15896301

That's like saying a C90 thread is off topic because it is about the event and not the dōjinshi. Still doesn't justify the deletion.

>>15896306
There's a fucking JAV thread on here with censored porn and covered tits, meanwhile janny deletes threads that feature Touhou characters with breasts. What the fuck.

>>15896306
Well, they don't really have anywhere to go unless /s/ becomes SFW or they make a /3De/ board.

>>15896306
The only thing I don't like about that thread is that it is 3D

We literally have a board for sexy, beautiful women
So they should be on /s/

Jav threads are a bigger issue.
Honestly, a jav thread should be on /t/, that's where they used to be for years, and people would post links.

>>15896315
>>>/t/ is the board for JAVs.

>>15896251
How is posting the same thing over and over creativity? It's the same as those general threads in terms of just copy and pasting OPs with a different image.

Chihaya image thread - whiny song edition
The same picture of doghoop #203
Viper the Niggy - y'all cowards don't even shite ur knickers
Flying Flandre-chan - We literally copy the exact same posts every day until those posts get us banned

The ohayo and 2husarus and marisa face threads have creativity in them. Nothing creative comes of making the same post over and over while talking about non-/jp/ related shit.

Has there ever been a doghoop thread since the early ones where people actually made content? It's fine when it happens once but just coming and spouting the same joke over and over and over makes it tired. It's not creative at all. It's effortless memeing. I mean hell, have /jp/ even created anything new? For the complaints about lack of creativity, the point of contention is that they are unable to post memes from years ago over and over.

>>15896318
Half of /t/'s catalog is already JAV.
There's also regular threads on /gif/ and /hc/.
For some fucking reason JAVs are such a fascinating subject that people feel the need to "discuss" them in 4 different boards

>>15896315
How about we split /s/ like /gif/ was split up?

Worksafe ``ecchi" /wss/ and adult /s/?

>>15896326
Looks like we need /js/ in addition to /jpg/ and /gg/.

>>15896268
You want to be a hikki(agoraphobic shut in who can't handle others) neet(which for some reason you guys think being neet involves being friendless) otaku (socially awkward nerd) who feels he's loved by everyone and is sucking their dicks?

>>15896331
No need for that, just glancing at /s/'s catalog I'm already seeing several threads with no nudity.

>>15896331
Except ecchi isn't a worksafe board. /s/ was already split up into /hc/ even though they always had /gif/. moot is a porn-obsessed cuck, like all jews

>>15896339
I'm already all of these things, and yes, that's how I want things to be on /jp/. What's wrong with that? Many people feel the same way. These things make me HAPPY.

>>15896339
normie out

>>15896331
I'm not sure if there would be enough traffic to warrant that.
On /wsg/ you can post funny webms, crosslink webms to other boards, on /wss/ you'd only have clothed women.

>>15896321
Ohayou don't have creativity since they're just futaba posts. The japanese dog and flanfly threads have /jp/ users making new and unique content themselves. They're not the same posts.

/jp/ was always a containment board, you don't get to decide what belongs and what doesn't.

>>15896348

Come over here and fix your favorite board, moot. This is the "weaponized /a/" and "the new /b/" you love so much. I know you're still the admin of this site. Get the fuck over here.

>>15896288
Why couldn't this go on /o/ or /k/?
I'm sure a mod on /k/ would allow it

We should strive to make different kinds of threads, I feel.
No use complaining about how things are if we don't try to bring some variety.
Someone made this thread and while I think it's interesting, I can't really contribute to it >>15896317 .
Some guy pops in from time to time to post a monochrome touhou image for us to color or redraw, just sucks that some crossboarders come in to shit whatever joke is popular on their boards and they get added to the .gif, but I think it's a simple way to get some different content in with no real "admission bar" aside from Paint.

>>15896370

There was a thread on /k/, but that wasn't the point. This was an important event for military otakus (only people who are paid or actual otakus would even watch it, let alone hear of the event), particularly in Japan.

Why should I not be allowed to post or share things that are happening in the military otaku world?

NEET generals were removed because they scared people away much like /r9k/ used to scare people away. /jp/ is no longer ``weaponized''. It is disarmed.

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>>15896378
I don't like this idea and the thread you linked shouldn't be on /jp/
``````otaku''''''' still has a connection to ``'japanese'' on this board

>>15896378
>No use complaining about how things are if we don't try to bring some variety.
we do try. then the threads are deleted and the people trying leave.
so we're left here arguing against the cucks who like how stale and lifeless the board has become.

>>15896283
What's it like to try so hard to force "boobhu" "paizuri" and "mating press" as memes but be largely ignored?

>>15896410

dude i'll mating press your face, dude.

>>15896410
feels good man

>>15896381
But then it becomes a "I want to discuss [this topic] with /jp/!" kind of a deal. Military Otakus are a thing, but they don't exactly feel out of place in 4chan's other boards, like /k/. In theory, we can have a military otaku general, we can have military otaku threads, just like we can have 80'ies anime otaku threads, mecha otaku threads, train otaku threads, but they already have their boards and aren't actively being pushed out, which I believe to be the case on most generals here. And those that aren't, we already are complaining about it or when aren't generals, receive little to no answers. A cuteposting Kancolle thread isn't going to stay around for long or get as many replies from unique posters, a Kamen Rider thread is up even though they have /m/ to talk about it but it's pretty mild.
I guess you're more invested in it because your thread got deleted, but really, there are other places to talk about the Japanese F-35 arrival, which I particularly did not know about and will read up on because of your thread.

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>>15896353
>making new and unique content
Go make a thread and post every iteration of hoop dog that's been made recently. Fucking nothing, except that flanfly one which is just double old memeing. If you really wanted new content, you'd make new content instead of posting old content.

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As a newb accessibility otaku, I'll have you know that most refreshable braille displays don't yet have the capability to show 8-dot braille. One hopes it will happen in the near future, as it will lead to math symbols and various other things being easier for blind people to read.

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>>15896426

I understand what you are saying, but its much like we can't have topics on Japan because >>>/int/ and >>>/trv/ exist. I just wanted to share this one off event with /jp/ as niche otaku interest for Japan, but thank you for taking an interest.

>>15896395
I thought it was, if anything, different but not necessarily good based only on the OP's post but how it could develop. Maybe I did pick a bad example, sorry.

>>15896397
Yeah, not having some sort of feedback from janny hurts when someone isn't trying to shitpost, it's hard to gauge intentions on both sides via the internet with only a 404 message or even worse a three day ban just saying "Quality of posts is important...".
I don't think we should stop trying within reason, however.

>>15896463
>a three day ban just saying "Quality of posts is important...".
I thought it was always for off-topic.

>>15896458
>>15896426
The important thing is not the specifics of this one thread.

it's the general pattern of getting perfectly relevant good content deleted. Censorship. by moderators. It ruins the board.

>>15896463
intention shouldn't matter. that's far too subjective a thing to not be abused.

>>15896467

You are right.

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What a productive thread OP!!!
Zero new things have been said and people are still split between deleting even more stuff or having less moderation.
I'm sure you feel a lot better now that you got a chance to shittalk about the board.

>>15896706
>I'm sure you feel a lot better now that you got a chance to shittalk about the board.
Not OP, but I honestly do. Feels good to see people agreeing with me.

>>15896706
>I'm sure you feel a lot better now that you got a chance to shittalk about the board.

I sure am, I finally got to voice my disappointment in thread deletion.

Just keep the shitposters from 2012/14 away and delete this >>15896142 kind of shit and everything will be okay for me.

And try to make some nice threads from time to time.

No 3D humans unless it is a hot male.

>>15896706
>I'm sure you feel a lot better now that you got a chance to shittalk about the board.
It's cathartic. It certainly beats commenting about a bullshit deletion and eating consecutive (unfulfilled) ban requests for it. And I'm also extremely happy to know that I am in the company of other people who - in whatever personal way - care about the quality of the board.

One of my largest complains about the janitor is that he has been ruling the board with an iron-fisted personal standard. He arbitrarily yanks threads, posts, and entire chains of conversation that don't meet whatever standard of quality he's using to enforce rule six. But only he is allowed to make that sort of judgment. If you call a thread awful or a post awful your post will be deleted and you will probably get an off-topic ban request. So everything is either so great it can't be criticized, or so shit that the janitor gets to unilaterally remove it for everyone. That's a fucking awful standard.

I had to move heaven and earth just to make this thread. If the janitor had his way I'd be banned a hundred times over, just because I dared to say something critical of his precious /jp/. That's bullshit. Whatever flaws the board has - or even if it it's the perfect board or the best we can make of a bad situation, or whatever else have you - it is pathetic that someone would try to stop people from acknowledging it.

>>15896733
>Just keep the shitposters from 2012/14 away
Why do you hate /jp/?

>>15896784
And I thought he was trying to make /jp/ like reddit. He's doing even worse.

>>15896706

Hello janitor.

>>15896149
>I think the pro-neet thing is detrimental to otaku culture, which is based on consumerism, which is based on having money.
The consumer aspect of otaku culture is unpleasant at best. The search for an alternative value system is much more fundamental. And it's not until recently that the term "otaku" didn't immediately call to mind the image of an antisocial loser. Otaku culture is degeneracy. Granted, it's not the kind of degeneracy to is supposed to make you go to your local gloryhole and suck dicks - because that's not /jp/-related - but why bitch about Touhou futa if people aren't dumping it?

>And they'd argue against me, but I'd tell them to go look at every shitty dead spinoff. That is the /jp/ they want. That is the /jp/ they made.
Every /jp/ spinoff in history, whether made for noble or evil purposes has failed. Bunbunmaru was originally made to collect intelligent posters and get away from idiotic shitposters. That didn't go anywhere either. Spinoffs of any kind are hard to maintain. (That said, I wish that /jp/ would be moderation would be kinder to its spinoffs, at least the ones which weren't formed for the sole purpose of shitting on /jp/, even if I think that most of them are shit. SA let moot advertise 4chan back in the day.)

I enjoyed NEET / hikki culture while it existed in /jp/ because /jp/ was a kind of refuge for the mentally ill and people incapable of dealing with society. You can tell me those people belong in /r9k/ today but as far as I can tell the attitude of /r9k/ is overwhelmingly one of entitlement and resentment at not being allowed to participate in regular society. /jp/ was always the home for people who just wanted nothing to do with society. It was charming and unique, even if it's no longer around and I don't see any hope of it coming back.

>>15896786
Huh?
You like people spamming Asuka from Evangelion and black people pictures on /jp/ 24/7?
Why do YOU hate /jp/?

>>15896828
Stop being dishonest. We both know this isn't all you have in mind when you're talking of "shit"posting.

>>15896784
> I am in the company of other people who - in whatever personal way - care about the quality of the board.
I come here once a month because nostalgia drawn me back, I don't actually post here. All of the old crowd have moved onto other palces like 8/jp/ or 4-ch.

also people are being banned for criticising the moderation here. rulecucked as fuck.

>>15896835
Excuse but what the fuck are you even on about?
I'm not following you, like at all.

>>15896786
Everybody remembers /jp/ at a point in time when they liked it the best. If you liked it in '12 and '14 you're probably not the person who valued it in '08 or '10. For some people the ideal board is even the /jp/ today - a board full of on-topic discussion, with no board culture or shitposting threads.

I, personally, hated the posters who defined 12-14. They ran out an overwhelming number of the older posters and belligerently shitposted the former culture out of existence.

>>15896795
It's not his judgment that's personally awful - most of what he cans is shit - but that he seeks to reserve all the judgment for himself. In his mind maybe he's only doing his job by deleting angry comments that could spawn pointless derails. I don't like it. 4chan threads across all the boards are full of thousands of tiny derails that don't stop people from getting back onto the topic. People should be free to have their own standards as long as they're not going out of their way to be disruptive.

>>15896838
>All of the old crowd have moved onto other palces like 8/jp/ or 4-ch.
I don't buy this in the slightest. Most of /jp/'s spinoffs seem to be populated mostly with the funposters and shitposters who were ascendant from 2011-14. I'm happy that they've found a comfortable home for themselves but the actual old /jp/ certainly isn't there in force - they've melted into a variety of different communities. Every now and then you can find one in /a/ and I've seen one in places as shit as MAL.

If I had to guess I'd guess that you were given the ban for mentioning /jp/ spinoffs (this is a "/jp/ metathread" after all) but that's the kind of pedantic interpretation that I hate. Nobody cares when /tg/ mentions 1d4chan or /a/ has their r/a/dio threads. This is one of those things where I figure that it could go both ways and I generally value erring on the side of free expression.

>>15896868
>If I had to guess I'd guess that you were given the ban for mentioning /jp/ spinoffs
uhh... i was banned before posting this.
so unless jannies are time travellers too, no.

Remove that banner ad that links to /jp/.

>>15896872
>uhh... i was banned before posting this.
I didn't see whatever post it was that you were banned for and made a guess. It was wrong. In any case, this thread looks for the time being like it's a safe space where rule eight doesn't apply.

Personally, I have hated rule eight ever since it morphed from "something that could be used to ban people if they were being wildly disruptive" to "everything the mods do is beyond question." For most of /jp/'s existence I spoke freely about what policies are good and bad for the board, and often criticized decisions the moderators made, but sometime last year I started continuously eating bans for it like never before. Unless the staff are really just that much smarter than the rest of us put together (which I hardly buy) banning constructive criticism just leaves a bad taste in the mouth. People should be able to speak truth to power.

>dickgirl touhou thread is allowed on /jp/
>touhous with tits get told to go to >>>/d/

???

>>15896936
You left out the part where the tits were bigger than their bodies.

>>15897018
Same with the dicks desu

Loosen moderation of non-shit posts.
Bring back hikki threads and the culture of comfy.
Curb the intese shitposts like fetish threads.

>>15896847
>with no board culture or shitposting threads.


The hordes of touhou threads aren't board-culture OR shitposting? Moreover, aren't the threads that are on the front page by definition 'board culture'? They are there because the community as a whole want them there.

>>15895136
>ban all generals
You relies 75 percent of this board is general threads. Terrible idea
>ban all users who post outside of up
In case this isn't b8, let me point out that almost everyone here also posts on /a/ and related boards

Why fix something that isn't broken?

I really hope mods move at least the gravure and JAV threads to their respective boards, /s/ and /hc/. They are a real eyesore and most of the time pushing the limit of SFW.

And before you come bitch at me pointless Touhou image dumps with no discussion should go to /e/ or /c/ too.

I don't like idol generals but I admit they are an otaku topic, but JAV abd gravure isn't. It's just pornography with a different name because it cones from Japan.

I miss Saten threads. Can we have them back, please?

>>15897478
Yeah, but make sure to call them Saten General and link to the previous thread on every OP

I wish mods/janitos were as quick to remove blatant NSFW content as they were to delete shitposting in generals. I don't care if there's some sort of context like a nipple in a VN image went unnoticed or something, but blatant posts without concern for rules like >>15895466 and >>15893956 should be deleted.

>>15895084
Get rid of anything that's essentially porn or image dumps. It's no wonder why this board is so slow when every other thread devolves into "I want to spread my seed all over [x]." And I don't give a shit what franchise/category it belongs to.

>>15897460
>I don't like idol generals but I admit they are an otaku topic, but JAV abd gravure isn't. It's just pornography with a different name because it cones from Japan.

Honestly, I personally feel gravure threads would be fine too, if they were actually model threads, but they're just an excuse to post nearly naked women and pretend they're "discussing" them because the posters are bothered by being around fully naked women in /s/ for some reason. It also encourages people to make posts about random Japanese women for no reason.

As a side thing, I find it weird that no one talks about voice actresses or anything otaku related, but are quick to try to talk about live actresses, non idol singers, porn stars, and random nobody females.

Also I don't think on topic JAV itself should be banned, just the general. There's going to be some point where they make, say, a KanColle JAV where these girls have huge cardboard boxes on their back or a Touhou JAV where some otaku looking guys have to name who the girls are supposed to be when they're only wearing silly hats and nothing else, and /jp/ should be able to come together and discuss/laugh at those, but there doesn't need to be a constant thread about any old JAV unrelated to that.

>>15896167
Are you insinuating that the mod team can't take a joke?

>>15897658
I can't speak for him obviously, but that doesn't sound far-fetched.

>>15897658
Not him, but that fact should be pretty obvious.

There is no reason to have generals here. No topic of discussion here is so pressing that it requires a thread dedicated to it to be available 24/7. There are maybe a few exceptions but I couldn't really be bothered thinking of them or explaining while at the moment. In particular the monster girl general has no place here. It's just a bunch of /e/ like roleplaying and circlejerking. The redeeming quality they have is that they stay in the thread until it goes well past 300 replies until it falls off the board.

I tried making a statistics thread about a week ago to get some information about the current Jay's userbase but it was deleted after maybe 1 or 2 hours. In general, it feels like this board has become to /a/ what /vg/ is for /v/, except there is no major segregation here between topics of discussion like there is on /vg/. It also feels like the average age has dropped, and everyone is alot less respectful, which reminds me of the time I read an /a/ thread. Visible sage should be returned as well.

I would be surprised if the current janitors that monitor this board are originally from this board or are imports from /v/ or /a/.

generals are basically subreddits

>>15897675
>I tried making a statistics thread about a week ago to get some information about the current Jay's userbase but it was deleted after maybe 1 or 2 hours
Why do people need to do this? Go mine demographic data somewhere else. You want info about /jp/'s userbase? Here. http://catalog.neet.tv/clouds.html#jp

>>15897700
>edition
>previous
>general
Haha. I was trying to find out the respondent's average age. People rarely mention it here unless asked.

>>15897700
Edition, previous, and general are the biggest words. It would be funny if it weren't so sad

>>15897719
>I was trying to find out the respondent's average age
What possible legitimate reason could you have for that? Whining about kids isn't a reason, nor is targeted marketing.

>>15897658

I don't know, there's no explanation behind the deletions.

>>15897478
Saten is a light novel and visual novel character at this point in time, but I wouldn't bet on it.

>>15896119
I was active here in the past, but after all the changes 3 years ago I stopped coming here for the most part. I miss the days when bob (tokiko) would post his dxm trip reports here.

>>15897799
Why the fuck would you support an irritating attention whore who decided to make /jp/ his personal blog and organize drug meetups? What the fuck did you even come here for?

>>15897731
Probably some homovan faggot doing a project for school.

>>15897806
>What the fuck did you even come here for?
/jp/ was all about the community, and it was better like that.

It's rapidly becoming relevant to this thread, but why does the janitor purge every reply to a post once it's deleted?

There's no rule anywhere that says it's the job of the staff to excise entire conversations because one person (might have) broken a rule in it.

>>15897828
Off topic replies to off topic posts, if a post is off topic and everybody keeps going, then whats even the point of deleting the initial post?

>>15897826
>/jp/ was all about the community,
Tokiko was a malicious attention whore who spend all of his time in /jp/ taking a gigantic shit on the community that existed before he showed up, trying to worm his way into oldfag status by namedropping older posters, blogging about his life, and generally acting like an insufferable faggot. The "community" would have banned him a heartbeat if they had the power.

>>15897828

Because tovarishch, conversations were never of happening.

>>15897840
Please stop being so negative towards other users.

>>15897806
I thought it was fun. There was a community then and people were nice to each other. it wasn't as serious as everything is now.

Pretty much everyone interesting left 3+ years ago anyways, so I'd be surprised if /jp/ ever becomes like it was before even if there were changes made now.

>>15897837
There is no "point" to deleting posts except in so far as the deleted post violated a rule. If the subsequent posts also violate a rule (and aren't just continuing an argument that the janitor thinks is retarded) then they could be canned also - but posts stand on their own merits.

>>15897846
>Please stop being so negative towards other users.
Tokiko never respected /jp/ in the slightest. He was instrumental in helping convert /jp/ into a group blog for his attention whoring IRC friends. The respect he deserves is less than none.

>>15897731
I was interested. There was a /fit/ survey from 2012 I think it was in which /jp/ had the highest average age of 26. I wanted to see if anything had changed.

>>15897828
Too used to modding general threads where that's the only way to make them drop a topic.

>>15897867
That's just weird because general threads are the only kind of thread where it is 100% guaranteed that the thread will rerail itself in short order. At least in ordinary threads you could say that it's helping protect an original topic where the chance for discussion might otherwise be lost.

Does any one else remember ticks?

I heard she is dead now. She moved to finland and killed herself or something. it's sad...

>>15897885
Generals don't have a rail to begin with, they're just hangouts. Then someone starts shitposting and you see tons of deleted replies show up on warosu. After that,they go back to erping and talking about their daily lives.

>>15897893
I don't remember your attention whore, but I remember /jp/ used to have a lot of suicide threads. I wonder how many actually killed themselves and if that's why the threads stopped.

>>15897898
/jp/ threads are overwhelmingly about the discussion of their specified topic, which leaves them a cut above the kinds of quasi-chatrooms that plague some other boards. (I think I've seen MGG be pretty bad about it but MGG is special.)

Even the kinds of "derails" that plague general threads are inane bickering that directly related to something in a topical post and not what you had for breakfast type shit.

>>15897898
/jp/ threads are overwhelmingly about the discussion of their specified topic, which leaves them a cut above the kinds of quasi-chatrooms that plague some other boards. (I think I've seen MGG be pretty bad about it but MGG is special.)

Even the kinds of "derails" that plague general threads are usually inane bickering that directly related to something in a topical post and not what you had for breakfast type shit.

>>15897903
>I wonder how many actually killed themselves and if that's why the threads stopped.

That's pretty funny in a sordid way

>>15897940
They probably just moved their pity party to /r9k/.

>>15897949
That's what I did, but only because I had no choice since my threads on /jp/ kept being deleted and me banned. I would much rather talk with you guys than with those people on /r9k/.

>>15897960
>/jp/ - my friends are here

>>15895124
>/jp/ - Otaku Culture

> Ban idol threads
> Ban steam/dota threads
> Ban kigurumi threads
> Stop making so many weird touhou fetish threads like that smelly patchy one

You might just be in the wrong place.

>>15897949
>/r9k/
The departed might have gotten the better end of that deal.

As much as I would like it if a random fridey night thread got "accidentally overlooked" for a few hours I don't think the mods will ever accept that kind of thing back into /jp/.

>>15895124

>>15897579
Hello starbow.

>>15897981
They should ban anybody who suggest to ban kigs. They're like your weird cousin who comes over but he's kinda cool but you can't forget about that one time you found out about his weird fetish so its just awkward to have him around.

>>15898026
>you found out about his weird fetish

I don't see it as a fetish, though it probably is for some people.
I'd do it if it wasn't so expensive, it seems like fun.

>>15897989
Wasn't that some trash imported from /v/, like the word "comfy"?

>>15898026
>Hello starbow.
Are you from a general? Why do generals think there's some sole person out to get them and their whole group?

>>15898059
>Why do generals think there's some sole person out to get them and their whole group?
Because in most cases it's true.

>>15898066
This /x/ like thinking is another reason generals need to leave. They always waltz in like they own the place and think everyone loves them just because mods babysit their threads for a while. Being in a closed community like that makes you paranoid.

Also >>15898026
Kigs need to go to /cgl/ and be mod protected until they become /cgl/ protected history. They also need to be moderated along with doll threads. It's not okay to post NSFW just because it's a doll or dollsuiter.

>>15898066
I hope the thread you're talking about isn't MGG.

>>15898238
Does it matter which one I'm talking about? I mean in most of the cases, there's usually one or several persons, usually very butthurt ex-regulars of the general, who now have a deep hatred for it and want to derail and shit it up as much as possible.

>>15898232
Have you even seen the suits? They don't even have nipples.

>>15896244

>>15896429
your ears are off

>>15897383
Catamite

>>15898232
>/cgl/ is a board for the following:
>• Cosplay
>• Lolita
>• J-fashion
>• Conventions & gatherings
>• Sewing & prop-making
>• Craftsmanship tools/materials & tutorials
>• LARPing
>• Discussing accessories such as wigs/circle lenses/prosthetics/makeup (These must be within the context of the board-related topics listed above; weight loss threads should be kept in /fit/, beauty and fashion generals should be kept in /fa/)

Kig stuff is a super otaku subset of cosplay so it wouldn't really fit.
It's like telling people talking about Touhou to take that shit to /v/.

>>15896706
It was all better when we had meido

>>15898238
Yeah he is a monstershitter after all.
>>/jp/?task=search&ghost=&search_text=starbow

>>15898263
While I'm sure you spend every waking moment there, the last time I visited one of those threads, they were posting porn and the suits do have nipples.

>>15898333
>It's like telling people talking about Touhou to take that shit to /v/.
So not unreasonable? It's about as unreasonable as telling people to post about pokemon in /v/.

How is dollsuiting not cosplay or LARP? Lolita fashion is more otaku than kigs.

>>15898342
You probably already know this, but you guys are the ones who shitposted meido out of existence.

>>15898355
The insurmountable obstacle to lolita fashion in /jp/ is the fact that unlike kigurumi, nobody in /jp/ could ever pull it off.

>>15898367
>nobody in /jp/ could ever pull it off.
Nor can anyone in /cgl/.

>>15898367
>nobody in /jp/ could ever pull it off.
You'd be surprised.

There are a shitton of generals on this board.

Some of the worst offenders are the idols - practically every group has its own general. It's about time we made a /id/ or similar board for all the idol groups. You can even put the kpop shitters there too.

There's also a lot of gravure and JAV shit on here - it's NWS and shouldn't go on this board. They should go back to /s/ or some new softcore porn board. Same with the monster girl threads - back to /d/.

The drawfag general should go to /i/.

>>15898355
>So not unreasonable? It's about as unreasonable as telling people to post about pokemon in /v/.

Which is unreasonable because there is literally a board for all Pokemon things. It's always correct to post Pokemon on the Pokemon board, it's only sometimes okay to post Pokemon on /v/.

>How is dollsuiting not cosplay or LARP? Lolita fashion is more otaku than kigs.

Because dollsuiting isn't fashion and LARPing is an action, not a costume. Becoming the anime girl is literally the most otaku shit ever.
Could kig shit be posted on /cgl/? Sure, just like posting Pokemon threads on /v/, but just like Touhou is better suited here so too is kig shit.

>>15898465
>Becoming the anime girl is literally the most otaku shit ever.
And somehow cosplaying isn't this?

>>15898475
I mean, cosplay isnt limited to japanese media. You know cosplaying comic characters is a thing, yes?

Nobody will ever delete the generals without making a new board for them and /jp/ doesn't exactly have a high standing in the 4chan hierarchy. The chances of someone making a new board because /jp/ requested it is probably not high, and even then it'd have to be something that everybody (including the people in those generals) would have to get behind.

I'm also not sure about the focus on specific general threads either. Single general threads are, all things considered, a drop in the bucket. Even all the idols put together have like seven threads and that leaves 150+ threads for things that aren't idols. Very rarely has a thread been purged by mods because users didn't like it. If there's something that can be done to restore "non-general /jp/ culture" I don't see focusing on specific threads getting there. It should be focusing on things that can be done to blunt the overall impact that generals have on free-floating /jp/. At the end of the day the thread creation rate in today's /jp/ is about an eighth of what it was when /jp/ was young and that's not on the generals.

>>15898256
I don't know what inane drama circles you guys move in, but plenty of people in /jp/ don't like the AKB threads, don't like the JAV threads, don't like the MGG threads. Nobody sane seriously entertains the notion that these are all single individuals. When MGG was dumped on /jp/ for the first time you guys got one of the most hostile welcomes /jp/ has ever given a thread. Most people who don't like things just leave them alone.

>>15898504
>I mean, cosplay isnt limited to japanese media.
Neither is being an otaku. Military, trains, uniforms, aren't limited to Japanese media. Being a video game otaku doesn't mean you only play japanese games.

>>15898526
Besides not contributing to the board, the generals are usually the first thing you see when you come, and seeing a bunch of ugly nobody bitches isn't the thing non-general posters come to /jp/ for.

>>15898026

I don't like kig but would defend their right to their general here. The metric fuckheap of idols and JAV deals overcrowding the catalog really needs to be worked out though, that in addition to the Jan's aggressive general enforcing deletions is an awful combo.

So what non touhou, non general threads are you going to make? I see a bunch of recent deleted shitposts on warosu. Surely those aren't the fun and original content anyone had in mind.

>>15898776
Of the last four threads that were created on /jp/, one was a metathread and three were on-topic, even if one of them had a not-so-great OP picture and one of them had a not-so-great OP post.

>>15898790
(It goes without saying, of course, that all four were deleted.)

BANGENERALS OFF THE BOARD
BAN ALL /A/ POSTERS PERMANENTLY
ALLOW ROOM FOR CREATIVITY AND BOARD CULTURE

>>15898835
>"board" """culture"""

>>15898835
THIS???

>>15898839
see this? ban this fucker right now sudo you useless piece of sh*T

We're missing the most important point, why is /jp/ even SFW when NO ONE here has a job?

>>15898776

I know this is the exception and not the norm, but years ago a few times when I tried to start blatant touhou shitpost threads the community somehow turned them into discussions and even had fun. I know in it's wittier days /tg/ would do the same. Sometimes it's best just to let things run their course a little bit I think because you might be surprised what comes out from it.

>>15898884
Porn is gross and only degenerates want to look at it.

>>15898790
At least two of them are /v/ shitpost threads. There's also a thread that was apparently moved from /v/, so I know where the /v/ shitpost threads came from.

>>15898884
Because that guy shitposting with the /d/ tits would feel able to post whatever dumb /d/ porn they wanted and the rest of the board would be 2hu futa and yuri.

And the JAV and Gravure threads would probably still be here despite them supposedly not wanting to be on a NSFW board.

>>15898947
So they want to post about a NSFW subject, but don't want to post on the NSFW boards. Makes a lot of sense

>>15898962
Something about not being able to discuss porn on the porn boards, despite them having a little closed community to discuss with in their thread.

Wanting to drive out the Gravure and JAV threads is retarded because they do belong to otaku culture. Or do you fags also want to drive out the idol threads to /mu/, touhou threads exclusively for /v/ and japanese landscape threads for /out/? After all, if this is not a NSFW discussion board neither it is a video game board nor a music board.

>>15899020
So I can talk about Brazzers' latest scene or the FHM cover girl here, right? I mean since apparently porn is otaku culture now.

>But this porn comes from Japan!

Threads about people travelling to Japan are deleted on sight and told to go to /trv/, so simply being about Japan does not make it /jp/ related

General threads need to go away

>>15895124
>>15895124
>>15895124

Yes, please.

>>15899020
This is totally otaku culture, right?
>>15875639
>>15876351

Furthermore, the JAV threads neither post otaku oriented JAV, of which there are tons, nor does the gravure thread post anything other than half naked women. You can have cute models that aren't in underwear or less.

>>15899040
That's not the same thing and you know it. JAV is akin to a subgenre to idol, there is a whole subculture about everything that's JAV related and the industry has enough differences with their western counterpart to become it's own niche.

Also that was a terrible analogy.

So I can talk about Bethesda las game here, right? I mean since apparently any video game is otaku culture now.

>But this game comes from Japan!

Kanji Captchas

>>15898026
>They should ban anybody who suggest to ban kigs
(You)

>>15899059
Most people (who do not post in the overpopulated generals) DO want the idol and landscape threads out, you know.

>>15899055
>This is totally otaku culture, right?

The same could be said about almost every topic in /jp/.

> the JAV threads neither post otaku oriented JAV, of which there are tons, nor does the gravure thread post anything other than half naked women. You can have cute models that aren't in underwear or less.

Read my post above, JAV is it's own niche. JAVs don't have to be otaku related for them to be their own thing. I can also make a dumb argument for landscape threads, saying that they never post otaku landscapes like comiket, akiba, etc.

>>15899073
Do they also want the touhou and kancolle threads out?

>>15899061

>>15899059
Touhou is a doujin game series. Douin games are /jp/. Final Fantasy and Mario are not. Being from Japan isn't good enough.

JAV isn't a subgenre of anything but porn. it's just porn from Japan, which is why it's called Japanese Adult Videos.

Also you can talk about any game with a Touhou mod or something that makes it /jp/. You can talk about Touhou JAV and amateur gravure like Ushijima and Lenfried, who I may flood your thread with later.

But those threads just want to spam whatever porn and whatever random /s/ images instead of even marginally having an otaku focus. Otaku does not mean "weeb who likes Japanese things"

>>15899055
>two posts about a nigger in JAV
>NOT OTAKU CULTURE

>two similarly off topic posts anywhere in a thread YOU like
>DONT DELETE MY BOARD CULTURE

It's a wonder why anybody thinks these threads will get anywhere.

>>15899092
>kancolle
Pretty much second to monstergirls in hate.

>touhou
You can see in this thread people don't like all the random PATCHE'S FEET! threads. However this board was made for specifically for Touhou. Not for JAV.

>>15899104
Also, supporting your argument, Touhou is not simply a game series, it's a franchise at this point. It has mangas, other written works, original music CDs and a plethora of fan content. It's similar to why /vp/ exists, because it would spill into other boards otherwise

>>15899116
It's similar to /vp/ alright, but it's because the base board got tired of them posting about [series I don't like] all the time. /jp/ is to /a/ as /vp/ is to /v/ as /trash/ is to /co/.

Come to think of it, /a/ also has /e/ and /m/, /v/ also has /vg/ and /vr/, and /co/ also has /mlp/ and /aco/. Those boards are too full of whiny manchildren.

>>15899104
>JAV isn't a subgenre of anything but porn. it's just porn from Japan, which is why it's called Japanese Adult Videos.

I said it was a subculture of otaku, not a subgenre of porn.

>But those threads just want to spam whatever porn and whatever random /s/ images instead of even marginally having an otaku focus. Otaku does not mean "weeb who likes Japanese things"

Yes and the same can be said about dumping /c/ images of your favorite cankolle/touhou/fate girl. After all, otaku neither means "weeb who likes cute pictures".

>>15899110
> However this board was made for specifically for Touhou. Not for JAV.
This wrong and moot was really specific with this. There is a reason why this board was not called toho or whatever, and that reason is because all otaku thing were alowed along touhou.

Now don't get me wrong here, the only thing i want to explain is that every single thing you guys are bitching about, is already a subculture, and that includes touhou, JAV, idols and kigurumi.

>>15899092
>>15899059
So what exactly makes JAV so special and different from other porn? I wanna have a laugh

>>15899132
I'm a Touhou fag, and while Touhou spam on /a/ was a big part on /jp/'s creation, it wasn't the only reason. Back then there really wasn't any board where you could post VNs, or Vocaloid, or ,yeah, idols

>>15895084
who homu here?

>>15899148
>So what exactly makes JAV so special and different from other porn? I wanna have a laugh

More enfasis on fetishes that are aimed specifically at otaku that reflects on the plot of them and a very high encouragement in people getting obssessed with JAV actresses, just like idols.

Now if i asked you the same thing about every single thing that's allowed here what would you answer? Because so far, the only thing that meets every single standard to be posted here according to you guys is touhou and comiket threads.

I you are going to say that JAV has no place here then neither are 99% of the threads here.
Honestly the hypocresy on this thread is austanding.

>>15898884
I think it's for the better that /jp/ is work safe. If people could post NSFW stuff, /jp/ would just become flooded with image porn dumps. It's fine how it is where it can be lewd, but not too lewd.

>>15899139
Porn is not culture, otaku or otherwise.

>>15899176
>More enfasis on fetishes that are aimed specifically at otaku that reflects on the plot of them and a very high encouragement in people getting obssessed with JAV actresses, just like idols.

Oh, you mean like Bailey Jay. Gotcha.

>>15899176
>enfasis
>Honestly the hypocresy on this thread is austanding.

Every single board has been making these threads and not only do half the people posting in them not agree on what to do, but there's no evidence that any of this would ever reach anyone of worth.

>>15899430
Boards only become worse when you fuck with them anyway, like how we can't have mmorpg threads anymore.

>You don't like what i like
>I'm butthurt
>Create thread
>Please Hiro remove this remove that
>I'm a genius
Blah, can you guys go back to your fucking shitchan already. /jp is alright, we don't need your shit here.

>>15896249
>rulecuck
groan

>>15899542
I agree, /jp/ is fine. I don't know why the fuck these faggots keep complaining.

>>15899542
OP is really just mad >>/jp/thread/15855704 got deleted. At least this thread is better than the "good old /jp/ days" typical response of flooding the board with anime characters.

>>15899608
I hope you don't think this is the level of discourse /jp/ should be at. Things are different inside generals because they're not "/jp/ soil", but act like an adult when you're outside of it.

Idols should have their own board.

>>15899732
/ai/ - aidoru

The fact that I have to set my filters just to avoid the metric ton of Generals here is pure asinine.

Just taking a look inside one shows the kinds of posting and people that are ruining this board.

Generals are basically closed-knit forums inside of an imageboard with their own well-known tripfags, names and recycled trash posts that have to be constantly babied by janitors and mods because of how out of control they constantly are. And when it comes to posting, I can't see any of it as anything different from the average crossboarder (poor etiquette and respect for each other, abuse of greentext and other obnoxious crossboarder memes), gaia forum childish posts and blogs.

Not only that, some of the generals (namely idols) are simply the same things but because they all bump uglies with each other constantly, they need to flood the board with their own segregated generals.

Generals are undeniable proof that a constant thread about a single topic is unncessary and dentrimental to quality discussion. After running out of things to discuss, what is there left to talk about? Look in a general and you'll see.

They've turned this board into /vg/ - /jp/ Edition and something seriously needs to be done about it. You can shit talk "the good old days" that others bring up all you want but even "the good old days" of QUALITY posting is better than this.

>>15900053
The hell did you do before filters existed? Shitpost in the threads to vent?

>>15900053
Even hiding the threads manually isn't that much effort, stop being a gay.

>>15900053
Who cares lol.

>>15900177
Going "ignore the problem" doesn't somehow make it a valid solution.

>>15899073
You know whom most people actually want out? Retards who try to dictate what can and cannot be posted.

>>15899065
"Ban anybody who suggests to ban something on-topic" is a really good anti-shitposter heuristic.

>>15900208
Ah yes, we've moved past that and into the "complain not very loudly into a containment thread that will be ignored just like all the others across the site"

The joke here is /a/ keeps talking about removing generals too... in the meta general. Irony?

>>15900174
He complains about threads being "babied", looks like he still does.

>>15900233
Oh so he still shitposts in allowed threads he doesn't like and expects that to work. I don't really understand what they think will happen.

>>15900053
This guy gets it. Of the 14 threads currently in my filter three of them are AKB Generals - with two of them abandoned after reaching image limit. That's clearly enough to warrant moving somewhere they can have both a higher image limit and the space to have multiple threads on the topic. Then bring along Hello Project, Babymetal/Sakura Gakuin, Perfume, Alternative Idols and K-Pop threads from /mu/ and it's starting to sound like a pretty fleshed out community.

>>15895084
Whatever happened to this artist? I haven't seen him in a while

>>15900231
Who cares about /a/ here again, what does it have to do with anything?
What are you even on about?
People sitewide will complain about generals clogging up boards, stop being so foolish and blind.

>>15900252
Did you already forget we're /a/'s trashcan?

Whatever they don't like we have to put up with. I hope you're ready for more dank memes when more threads get forcefully shoved into here if they get their way with their meta general.

>>15900255
So instead of lodging complaints in a thread designated for it, you'll just sit there and take it?

You realize why those /a/ threads keep getting sent here? Because its posters complain about them being there. If you actually do the same, you can imagine they'll be moved elsewhere as well, possibly to their own board, instead of sitting around and letting the "trashcan" overflow.

>>15900252
People sitewide are stupid, yes.

Sticking to one thread is the exact opposite of "clogging the board" and what /jp/ always encouraged before it was overrun with those "sitewide" people that you, for bonus irony, claimed not to care about just two sentences prior.

>>15900255
I think we're considerably safer with moot gone to destroy Google. (Not that we're not stuck with /a/ posters either way.)

>>15900266
The last thing that got shoved on us were overlord and kawakami, and the overlord guys just said "fuck you" and moved back to /a/ anyway and nothing happened in the end. This was before the retarded sanctioned meta general.

/a/ has been complaining about DJT, buyfag, and various other things for a while to get sent here and it still hasn't happened. Meanwhile there's no place I could think for idols to go. Trust me I want those eyesores of a thread gone too, ESPECIALLY babymetal, but nobody ever talks about music so /mu/ is out of the question. I feel sorry for whatever poor fucking soul hiro suckers into being a janny for an /idol/ board if that ever happens.

>>15900279
>Sticking to one thread
If they actually did just that.
There doesn't need to be multiple generals about different idols.

>exact opposite of "clogging the board" and what /jp/ always encouraged
Outright wrong.

>before it was overrun with those "sitewide" people that you, for bonus irony, claimed not to care about just two sentences prior.
Are you a cretin? I don't care about other people and their board's matters but doesn't mean those people don't have their own complaints to voice in their boards. They just don't concern what's going on specifically here, yet sadly when it comes to /a/, they do.

>>15900284
Then why are you calling /jp/ /a/'s trashcan if you're saying now that it isn't since what's being thrown at /jp/ now doesn't work?

>>15900311
>Then why are you calling /jp/ /a/'s trashcan if you're saying now that it isn't since what's being thrown at /jp/ now doesn't work?
It does work, we still have the kawakami threads after all. If you want to get really meta with it, we still have touhou, idols, and all that jazz. All the things that were meant to get out of /a/ in the first place.

I don't mind idols being here but seriously their attitude "I don't like this, fuck off from /jp/" is getting annoying.

>>15900414
That is the exact opposite of what has been happening in this very thread.

>>15900442
Exactly. Why do you think people are having this reaction.

>>15900470
Because they haven't been informed you can hide threads you don't like, I assume.

>>15900053
>You can shit talk "the good old days" that others bring up all you want but even "the good old days" of QUALITY posting is better than this.

I've had this for years as a reminder of why I couldn't look at /v/ or the other 4chan boards anymore. For all this time, /jp/ is the only board that hasn't become like this. I don't care what /jp/ becomes as long as it stays mostly on topic.

>>15900228
>You know whom most people actually want out? People who don't want them posting off topic.

>>15900266
>If you actually do the same, you can imagine they'll be moved elsewhere as well, possibly to their own board, instead of sitting around and letting the "trashcan" overflow.
Don't just complain, report them too. Really off topic threads have been moved out of /jp/ recently.

>>15900476
>hide threads you don't like
That's the worst attitude of all.

>>15900476
Excellent advice my friend. Now our dear Idol fans needs to learn this function and /jp/ is finally saved.

Porn is about the most popular thing on the internet, and Japanese porn is among the most popular types of porn.

JAV is no otaku culture.

otaku culture: things i like
not otaku culture: things i don't like

that about sum it up?

I think the moderation is a bit too strict nowadays. You can't do any serious fun posting without getting your posts deleted. And I'm not talking about spamming new threads, I mean discussion within existing ones.

>>15900583
Why is "fun" always "being annoying"?
Every time someone says "no fun allowed" it means "people don't approve of me posting inane stupid shit"

It's like their idea of fun is blowing air horns in libraries or something.

>>15900583
>shiiiiddddd :------D
>xDDD
>*brrrraaap*
>feelio when me posts keep being deleted


Whats wrong? I'm just having FUN with my posts.

>>15900686
What's wrong with a little bit of fun? It's not like we're holding a conference here.

>>15900485
>I don't care what /jp/ becomes as long as it stays mostly on topic.
This isn't really directed at you, but what the fuck even IS 'on-topic' anymore? If this thread is any indication, people have no idea what the fuck even is on-topic or off-topic anymore.

I'm unironically ok with generals, idols, Elona, kancolle and kigurumi and all those other things. They're definetly otaku culture.

>>15900708
You're a good guy. Be well.

>>15900266
Ive reported generals numerous times before and nothing has changed. Where do I go to 'speak to a manager' so to speak?

>>15900695
Something that is only funny to you is not "fun". Or rather you shouldn't be surprised when other people shit on you.

>>15900206
this kind of attitude is why the website as a whole is much worse than it was even a couple of years ago

>>15900720
Don't like the fun? Ignore it.

>>15900583
You don't mean spamming new threads, you mean spamming inside existing ones. Gotcha.

>>15900732
Don't like the generals? Ignore them.

>>15900708
The complaints about generals are usually (emphasis on 'usually') not about them being off-topic, but about them bogging down the board. Though honestly, I'd argue that all those /e/ and fetish threads are a bigger issue.

>>15900696
Even if isn't not at me in particular, I'll answer.
This is /jp/ - otaku culture
>All images and discussion should pertain to light and visual novels, figures and other otaku paraphernalia, Touhou Project, Vocaloid, doujin works and music, and diverse niche Japanese interests (kigurumi, idols, mahjong, tea).
>This is the appropriate board for the discussion of Japanese visual novels and light novels. Western visual novels should be posted to /vg/, and translated visual novels are fine on either board.
That is technically on topic, even if some things aren't liked.

Even if people interpret it as "all things Japanese welcome", like it used to say, those misguided people are at least TRYING to be on topic. Look at the image I posted. Fisting porno photoshops are not remotely related to video games. /v/ and other boards don't care they just want to post dumb shit. Shitposters here don't care. They want to post anime and niggy and fatcat.

This thread isn't really about on-topic vs off-topic, its more about shit that's ruining the board vs shit that isn't ruining the board, shit that's not liked and wanted off the board, and more subtly "baww people can post about Touhou and idols but my thread got deleted! Why can't I post whatever I want?"

Even if shitposters call the board sterile, even if the mod is overzealous about deleting although not so much about banning anymore, the board remains largely on topic even with people trying as hard as they can to post the limits of what won't be deleted for low quality. I think stupid touhou fetish threads should go, but they are still touhou threads at least. I think JAV general doesn't belong, but there are still JAVs you could make threads about here. As long as people don't go making completely irrelevant posts all the time, the board remains on topic and decent enough to me.

>>/jp/?task=search2&ghost=&search_text=&search_subject=&search_username=&search_tripcode=&search_email=&search_filename=&search_datefrom=&search_dateto=&search_op=op&search_del=yes&search_int=dontcare&search_ord=new&search_capcode=all&search_res=post

There are tons of deletions but look how few and blatantly spam from other boards invading completely not-even tangentially related /jp/ posts are. Meanwhile other boards can't post even on topic stuff without a greentext story or some dumb meme phrase. Even Iori threads don't start off with "Idol butts and anuses" in the OP post.

>>15898055
I don't understand why people dislike the word comfy. It's just a regular adjective. For example:
>I like the first level of Mountain of Faith because I find the song and autumn aesthetics to be very breezy and comfortable

>>15895084
Paizuri General when?

>>15899542
This notion that people who don't like the current state of things are all outsiders is inane as shit. Even the people who are now posting on the shitchans were probably posting on /jp/ before you showed up.

>>15900231
>The joke here is /a/ keeps talking about removing generals too... in the meta general. Irony?
The only reason we're in a "general" is because every other thread and post about /jp/ outside this thread gets deleted.

>>15900782
Most of the problems with /v/ stem from the fact that it's fast as shit. /v/ makes a thread every 45 seconds. /jp/ makes a thread every 45 minutes. The fact that off-topic garbage gets deleted in /jp/ is good, and a sign that the mods are doing their jobs; the fact that people don't post that much off-topic garbage in /jp/ means that it isn't drowned in shitposters. But the fact that /jp/ is not as shit as /v/ doesn't mean that everything is as it should be.

>even if the mod is overzealous about deleting
I can ignore a shit thread. I can't ignore an on-topic thread getting deleted. The difference between a deletion and a ban is cosmetic given that both indicate equally to all outsiders that a certain topic isn't welcome in /jp/ and that everybody trying to repost it gets banned 100% of the time. Now, I can't ignore fifteen or thirty or seventy-five shit threads, which is what often happened in the "good old days" (read: 2013) that some people here love so much, but those aren't the same thing.

>>15900594
It's not people. Well, it might be people, but we don't know that it's "people" given that often a conversation that nobody has objected to is nearly burned out. All that indicates is that a single person doesn't approve of what's supposedly inane stupid shit, which could range anything from a shitty meme to a shitty joke. You should have the freedom to be inane on 4chan. Bringing up single examples isn't exactly the foundation to build up a coherent picture of moderation policy, but take this personal example:

Somebody posted a picture of a watermelon being split in half in a Suika thread.
I replied to it with a shocked reaction face and a comment "DELETE THIS."
My post was removed.

What was the fucking POINT of that, other than the obsessive patrolling by an apparatchik to remove all ideologically non-approved joke? So it was a shitty joke and an inane template meme. So what? Since when is it against the rules to post that kind of thing on 4chan? I almost wish I'd been ban requested instead so I could complain to someone with a face about how fucking inane that kind of shit is. Yes, one post doesn't actually matter, and no doubt anyone in staff who reads this will be rolling their eyes about how someone could care so much about a single shitty joke, but this kind of shit happens countless times every fucking day.

Inside a thread, the janitor should step in and do something when someone is demolishing the thread, not vet every post to check that it's janitor-approved fun (assisted, perhaps, by a particularly anal-retentive reporter obsessed with the notion of "quality.") This isn't "snibedi snabb :DDDDD" and "farts on u" level shit. Granted, I wish the people who have been advocating for that to come back would be quiet, but they're entitled to their opinions - but that's not the level of what's being removed in /jp/ today. Not even close.

>>15897383
>In case this isn't b8, let me point out that almost everyone here also posts on /a/ and related boards
Then they should stay there.

>>15900822
>I don't understand why people dislike the word comfy.
No, it's a dumb, lazy, abbreviated buzzword like "normie" instead of normalfag(got). "Comfy" is also as meaningless a word as "moe" and "cuck" and "clunky".

>>15900895
It's not used like a buzzword though. It's not used to incite an argument or shitpost anyone. It just means that a piece of media makes you feel comfortable. Sure you can argue that it's a subjective experience, but in the end it's still an apt way of describing how a certain work makes you feel.

>>15895084
Mods are really twitchy. Oh man you hinted at dubs or gets? BANNED

>>15896348
Ain't nothing wrong with futa.

>>15900913
Even if a clear line is drawn around dubs and gets, at least there you know where you stand with the rules. There's no guesswork like there is when somebody is enforcing the quality or on-topic rules to delete threads and tangents.

I just want the moderation to disappear so that warosu teenbros and arr9gay losers can take over the board again and we can start begging to have more moderation to deal with them to have them then ask for no moderation because the board is "stale" and they can't have "fun" only to have the cycle start anew again.

A purgatorial loop of history repeating itself over and over and no one learning anything ever, forever. Get on it janny kudasai.

>>15900915
History doesn't repeat itself. The "clean /jp/" of today does not resemble /jp/ as it did at any point in its younger years. The insinuation that all people who are unhappy with moderation today all want "the shitposters" to come back is absurd.

>>15900915
This is the strangest time loop fanfic I've seen so far.

>>15900863
>I can't ignore an on-topic thread getting deleted
So naturally the course of action is to have an autistic fit and make multiple threads that get deleted and then fume about janitors and make photoshops of cat paintings.

>>15900887
>You should have the freedom to be inane on 4chan
No, that's your sense of entitlement. You aren't owed any freedoms on a website you do not own.

>I replied to it with a shocked reaction face and a comment "DELETE THIS."
>My post was removed.
Sounds like the mods were having what you call "fun". You said to "delete this" and the post was deleted. Like saying "make me a sandwich" to a meanie genie.

Separately, reaction faces are dumb, but I bet you enjoy them don't you? But here you are flipping out like an autistic nit when things don't go your way and then hateposting against "the janny" thinking he'd be the one to be "steamed" while you radiate enough flaming butthurt to hold a cookout.

Btw
>This isn't "snibedi snabb :DDDDD"
Spurdo stuff is funnier than your dumb reaction faces. You'd report it on sight though wouldn't you, because you don't like it right? But when the stuff you like gets deleted, suddenly it is a tragic loss for the culture of /jp/ and the downfall of fun. What a load of bullshit.

>>15900921
I take it you weren't here when King Janny AoC himself was active, then. And no shit you don't want the shitposters to come back, they never left in the first place. We have self-admitted r9k losers in this very thread.

>>15900911
No, it's a meaningless buzzword that can be replaced by any other actually descriptive words. It's probably propagated by ESLs anyway.

Here's a real question, why is the ghost board on warosu gone for /jp/? It was the place you could go and have meta discussions and talk about neet life or whatever you want without fear of deletion. What killed it? Was it over moderation? Was it generals? Was it rulesfags?

>>15900933
>So naturally the course of action is to have an autistic fit
That's one course of action. The one I chose instead was to sit around waiting nine months for an approved metathread to show up, and then complain about it in the hopes that anyone cares. This follows "the rules" and presents my grievances in the appropriate venue.

I suppose the actual correct course of action is to quietly take it up the ass.

>>15900935
>I take it you weren't here when King Janny AoC himself was active
Were you? AoC was "meido" back then. "Janny" (like the now-deprecated NSJ) is a term that was popularized in 2012 by dedicated shitposters to destroy /jp/'s rapport between users and moderation.

>We have self-admitted r9k losers in this very thread.
/jp/ is all grown up and successful now, but /jp/ was once kind to losers. I don't begrudge people for going elsewhere when they can't post here (though I will laugh at them for not sucking it up).

>>15900933
>No, that's your sense of entitlement. You aren't owed any freedoms on a website you do not own.
This is true, but commenting on the ownership of the site is a completely pointless response. If I said you should be free to make high-quality on-topic posts on /jp/ the exact same response would apply.

>Sounds like the mods were having what you call "fun". You said to "delete this" and the post was deleted.
If that's what happened I might buy it. I would be shocked and astounded to learn that the janitor had a sense of humor, but sure.

>But here you are flipping out like an autistic nit when things don't go your way and then hateposting against "the janny" thinking he'd be the one to be "steamed" while you radiate enough flaming butthurt to hold a cookout.
There are as many pointless buzzwords in your post alone as the rest of the thread combined. As far as I can tell "hateposting" is a label designed to automatically delegitimize any criticism you don't like. The rest of your post is "u mad" writ large.

Anything that I'd find awful enough to report is usually taken out before I get to see it. I don't report much besides flooding. As for spurdo itself, I thought it was funny the first hundred times. But if a reply somehow managed to be relevant to the post it was made I wouldn't report it.

What's your horse in this fight, anyway? Do you approve all the policies of the current moderation? I don't mind being challenged but I am surprised that you'd go after me based on insinuations and speculations given that who I am is hardly relevant to this discussion.

>>15900933
>No, that's your sense of entitlement. You aren't owed any freedoms on a website you do not own.
This is true, but commenting on the ownership of the site is a completely pointless response. If I said you should be free to make high-quality on-topic posts on /jp/ the exact same response would apply.

If the mods really did respond to my "delete this" response by giving me my hearts desire I might buy that. I would be shocked and astounded to learn that the janitor had a sense of humor, but sure.

>But here you are flipping out like an autistic nit when things don't go your way and then hateposting against "the janny" thinking he'd be the one to be "steamed" while you radiate enough flaming butthurt to hold a cookout.
There are as many pointless buzzwords in your post alone as the rest of the thread combined. As far as I can tell "hateposting" is a label designed to automatically delegitimize any criticism you don't like. The rest of your post is "u mad" writ large.

Most things I'd find awful enough to report are taken out before I get to see it. I don't report much besides flooding. As for spurdo, I thought it was funny the first hundred times, but I wouldn't report a reply that was relevant. But why does what I would and wouldn't report matter? It's barely relevant to the posts I've been making. And for your part I can't tell what your horse in the fight is either way. Is it more moderation you want, different, less, or is it just right?

>>15900980
Those who willingly defected to a shitheap like /r9k/ to blog in self-pity about their awful lives should reevaluate why they were here in the first place. Despite what many here believe being a fucking loser is not inherently otaku culture, /jp/ is supposed to be a hobby and interest board and not an identity board.

This is also one of the factors that contributed to the anti-general stigma, them being about actual topics of interest and not identity drove people devoid of relevant hobbies and interests to lash out at them out of envy.

>>15900921
>The insinuation that all people who are unhappy with moderation today all want "the shitposters" to come back is absurd.
Obviously, but that's not what he's saying. He's saying that they would come back whether you want it or not.

>>15901017
>If I said you should be free to make high-quality on-topic posts on /jp/ the exact same response would apply.
Not really, because you are not "free" to, you are _supposed_ to via Global Rules 3 and 6.

>If the mods really did respond to my "delete this" response by giving me my hearts desire I might buy that.
Well it happens to every post that says that, so either they think it's funny or they think "delete this" is on the same level as "四ゆぅ"
I also report those posts because I think it's funny when they get deleted too. How's that for fun allowed?

>As far as I can tell "hateposting" is a label designed to automatically delegitimize any criticism you don't like.
"Hateposting against "the janny"" is any post directing hateful comments (by which I mean MODS = FAGS type comments) towards the janitor expecting anything other than a deletion and ban.

>The rest of your post is "u mad"
But it's true. The reason moderation is so harsh is because people historically get so mad they would spam the board for days. People would get so mad, these images were made for the sake of mocking them. Even now this very thread is the third thread made because that otaku killer thread was deleted. Even you admit
>I almost wish I'd been ban requested instead so I could complain to someone with a face about how fucking inane that kind of shit is. Yes, one post doesn't actually matter, and no doubt anyone in staff who reads this will be rolling their eyes about how someone could care so much about a single shitty joke

>And for your part I can't tell what your horse in the fight is either way.
Read >>15900594 again then.
>As for spurdo, I thought it was funny the first hundred times
Same of reaction faces, doghoop, and flanfly. The point is, what you find fun isn't the universal definition of fun and it being removed isn't the mods promoting "no fun allowed". It's more likely you being obnoxious, getting moderated, and then being unreasonably angry.

>>15901074
>Not really, because you are not "free" to, you are _supposed_ to via Global Rules 3 and 6.
But, if you were banned for it anyway, you would still have no real recourse for complaint, because it's not your site.

>"Hateposting against "the janny"" is any post directing hateful comments (by which I mean MODS = FAGS type comments) towards the janitor expecting anything other than a deletion and ban.
Which, in this day and age, is every sentence critical of anything the moderation ever did ever. Except this safe space thread, which I was deleted and ban requested for anyway before appealing it to a mod. Comments are comments. Whether the janitor wants to throw a ban request in for every single one is his business, but why that changes posts from criticism into "hateposting" is beyond me. It's a shitty and pointless buzzword (which, as far as I know you just invented).

>Even now this very thread is the third thread made because that otaku killer thread was deleted. Even you admit
I'm OP. I made this thread because hiroyuki specifically said we could make this thread, and because I've been irritated by dozens if not hundreds of deletions over the course of the past year or so, most of which weren't pointed at me because I mostly gave up on making threads a long time ago.

I wasn't aware that >>15900594 was you.

>It's more likely you being obnoxious, getting moderated, and then being unreasonably angry.
You could say this about any thread or anyone who complained about moderation, ever. I've been moderated on for years. The moderation today is stricter than it has been throughout all of /jp/'s history, even before "the shitposters" showed up, unless you consider hoop dog and all that other inane shit to have been shitposters before the term became popular.

>>15900782
>like it used to say
Well then it should start saying that again.

>>15900895
The word normie started here. And if you're complaining about it because /r9k/ is using it a lot, I find that no different from Hillary declaring war on a cartoon frog.

>>15901333
Any word that was popularized in /jp/ of 2012 is not a word you want to be defending. It replaced the word normalfag that came before it because blogging children were able to feel good about calling other people normies despite being eminently normal shitposters themselves.

Just split this board. The new userbase will never agree with the old one.
I just want a 2d board where I can't get my posts deleted for off-topic where almost everything goes, with the thread timer reduced and the subject field removed. Leave this board for generals and serious discussion. If a thread is shitty just leave it to die by itself.

>>15901269
>But, if you were banned for it anyway
Complain to the owner through email or whatever that the mods aren't following the rules. But if this was /b/ and zomg none!1! applied to mods too, then so be it. It doesn't invalidate the truthfulness of what I said. In the end, it's just your opinion, not a right.

Criticism is "the janitor shouldn't have deleted that thread. Does he even know what otaku culture is?" It is not "stupid newfag janiturd deleting everything I like. He should choke on his hot pockets and die." It is also not starting a topic with a passive aggressive comment towards the staff. Why do you think that is a good idea?

"Hateposting" is also a portmanteau of hateful shitposting, not a buzzword. It's the only thing I can think of to describe jannicat posts and the like. You know from the moment you hit submit whether your post was intended as criticism or intended to be virtually spitting in their face.

>You could say this about any thread or anyone who complained about moderation, ever.
And I'd be correct more often than not.

>The moderation today is stricter than it has been throughout all of /jp/'s history
Not for no reason either. Also you forgot about the times when a thread like this would have gotten a threadban.

>unless you consider hoop dog and all that other inane shit to have been shitposters before the term became popular.
Everything from TOUHOU HIJACK LEL on has been shitposting. Why does that term even incite anger in people who make off topic posts? Is saying "spamming" less triggering?

But going back to
>As for spurdo, I thought it was funny the first hundred times
>Same of reaction faces, doghoop, and flanfly.
If all you're doing is making hoopdog threads everyday for the purpose of going "hey guys, remember hoop dog?" then how is it not just spam? It's not something new and funny like the first thread might have been. It doesn't contain any new content either.

A lot of people here seem to get off on making threads just for the purpose of having them deleted and I don't get it at all.

>>15900936
>It's probably propagated by ESLs anyway.
I'm an ESL and I hate the word.

>>15901333
>Hillary declaring war on a cartoon frog.
Did this happen? If she promises to nuke /r9k/ I'll vote for her happily. I really wish frog posting was bannable like posting ponies was.

I'd only seen normie used here for "normiephone" back before everyone was a smartphone using normalfag, and probably since normalfag phone sounds retarded.

Also >>15901359
Normie, janny, all those dumb abbreviations by autists. tfw mfw instead of that feel when and my face when, it's no different from the currently filtered abbreviations.

Additionally, aside from the women hating faction, a lot of people back in those times were /r9k/ level. Just like a lot of /vg/ posters were and are /jp/ posters and shit up both boards with their retardation.

>>15901371
>I just want a 2d board where I can't get my posts deleted for off-topic where almost everything goes, with the thread timer reduced and the subject field removed.

>>>/s4s/
>>>/trash/

>>15901402
Also if you object, please explain why those boards do not satisfy your cravings. I mean look, there's even touhou.
>>>/s4s/4795860/

>>15901410
Didn't get the slash off the end
>>>/s4s/4795860

>>15901402
/trash/ is just a board full of shitty generals that nobody wants, just like the current /jp/, and /s4s/ just looks like some board being raided 24/7, there's no discussion. I was thinking something like 2chan's boards, but with less porn.

>>15901386
Not that guy but
>It's not something new and funny like the first thread might have been. It doesn't contain any new content either
I agree that regurgitating the same content ad infinitum would be considered spam if it weren't for "/jp/ heritage" status. But perhaps the reason these things remain stagnant is because there isn't, or isn't perceived to be, the scope to (and I use this term quite loosely) innovate. People cling to these things because there isn't a new equivalent. You could argue that it's the posters themselves responsible for the lack of new content but I feel the somewhat more rigid board structure might be responsible as well.

>>15901402
>>15901420
It's the same argument every time: I don't like the community, my friends aren't there, etc. Followed by making some reference to nijiura without realizing that a nijiura style board is effectively impossible with 4chan's current userbase.

>>15901422
>s4s/ just looks like some board being raided 24/7, there's no discussion
What do you think "a 2d board where I can't get my posts deleted for off-topic where almost everything goes" would look like? Look at the literally formerly anime random board, /b/. Why do you think you'll have some utopia with modless anarchy?

>but with less porn.
And no mods? We can barely keep no porn with mods. Without mods do you think it being a blue board will matter?

You might as well just make another spinoff with only a /jp/ board. I mean even if you got some collection of posters who would somehow have intelligent discussions about whatever it is you actually want to post (I imagine you just want to post about anime but not on /a/) nothing would be stopping the rest of 4chan coming and posting whatever they want. /s4s/ is the board you want. /b/ is the board you will get.

>>15901402
/pol/ will call you a CTR shill for sure, whatever that is. But here's the link.
https://www.hillaryclinton.com/feed/donald-trump-pepe-the-frog-and-white-supremacists-an-explainer/

> If she promises to nuke /r9k/
I don't think she will. She's way more likely to nuke all of 4chan altogether, including /jp/.

Besides, even the group that put Pepe in the same list as other undesirables like the Confederate's flag and the swastika, acknowledge that the majority of times he's used isn't by white supremacists.

>>15901460
Why do you think you'll have some utopia with modless anarchy?
Because it worked on /jp/ long time ago. Most threads like >>/jp/thread/15897959 would just leave the board peacefully without needing a janitor to delete them.
>And no mods? We can barely keep no porn with mods. Without mods do you think it being a blue board will matter?
I didn't say without porn, but just look at /r9k/, even though it's a really damn shitty board you don't see porn being dumped.

>>15901493
>including /jp/
Honestly I feel the "delete /jp/" posters were right sometimes.

>nuke all of 4chan
Honestly, this site is the only thing tying me to the internet anymore. If that happens, I'll be free. Get a job, start a family, just fuck off from this whole shit and clear my backlog of games and anime. Kids and normalfags can have the internet and what the fuck ever. I'll just get friends and go do old school nerd shit like play games in basements and pretend these last 12 years didn't exist.

That site was stupid as shit though. Like when older shit 4chan did would get on tv. Fuck Hillary (and Trump). What what CTR mean anyway?

>>15901522
You're dreaming of something that didn't exist. Old /jp, by which you mean middle /jp/ anyway, was a shitheap. Original /jp/ was a shitheap. 4chan at the time /jp/ was created was a shitheap and oldfags came here to hide from the shitheap. It's probably why the half of them want to post shit that isn't /jp/.

If you need to shitpost just shitpost on /s4s/. I don't know why you think that thread you linked wouldn't have died by being pushed off the board by 50 saten threads instead of 3 days of no replies.

>>15901583
>What what CTR mean anyway?
Correct The Record. Hillary paid people over $1m to shut down her opponents' supporters on the Internet.

>>15901386
>Complain to the owner through email or whatever that the mods aren't following the rules
This is not a practical solution. And people did complain to the owner. That's why the owner of this website decided he'd ask boards what they want and why this thread (and the previous thread) existed. Unfortunately the longed-for consensus eludes us to this day.

>Why do you think that is a good idea?
I didn't call the "janiturd" a "newfag" or claimed he was "steamed" in this thread, nor have I ever done anything of the sort. But the real secret is that it doesn't fucking matter. You get banned for expressing your opinion no matter how you express it. That's why there's no difference between what you term hateposting and anything that might be termed constructive criticism.

>And I'd be correct more often than not.
A fifty-one percent hit rate on moderation is awful. In fact I'd say anything south of 90% is awful, given the fact that bad posts left up are inconvenient but reasonable posts deleted sets precedent and is super demoralizing besides.

>Not for no reason either.
If this were three years ago and mods were dropping the hammer on everyone because nine out of ten pages of /jp/ were worthless spam, sure. But /jp/ is a domesticated board today. And at the end of the day cracking down on tangents and slightly-less-than-ideal on topic threads and shitty jokes is completely orthogonal to keeping out the dedicated shitposters and bloggers who had no /jp/ interests to begin with. Moderation doesn't have to be a single-dial package deal. (I never saw the mods drop a threadban in a metathread, either. In fact, the people who managed /jp/ used to consciously let those stay up from time to time, even if most of them bit the dust eventually.)

>Why does that term even incite anger in people who make off topic posts? Is saying "spamming" less triggering?
Shitposting implies malice. Spamming implies volume. Low-quality posting and off-topic comments and shitty jokes don't always fall into the above categories.

Extraordinarily few people want their thread to be deleted. Just because you know (or highly suspect) that your thread will be deleted doesn't mean that's why people make them. They make the threads because they want other people to post in them.

>>15901583
Are you implying that this is site is less of a shitheap that it was back then?
>I'll get a job, friends, start a family
>Kids and normalfags can have the internet and what the fuck ever
What the hell are you doing on this site anyway?
I admit that I like certain kind of shit but that's not the shit from /s4s/. I don't even shitpost anyway, just looking at all those deleted threads makes me sad.

>This thread
>Hopefully you finished all your stupid rant anon
>And BTFO to your stupid /pol thread
>And spam your anime shit there
>If you die, you can't go to Gensokyo, remember.

>>15901620
>What the hell are you doing on this site anyway?
I'm stuck here due to Stockholm syndrome over first watching the rest of the internet decay in the early 2000s and then watching this site decay since 2005. I somehow honestly believe this site is still better than any alternative, but somewhere inside I know I should just leave this festering pile of shit and let the last part of me that cares about anything die.

>just looking at all those deleted threads makes me sad.
Why? Why is it worse that they were deleted than archived if you think they weren't going to get posts anyway? It doesn't make any difference. I'm reminded of that old "internet is serious business" macro, with you saying you're sad because some threads you didn't make and feel would have died anyway got deleted.

>>15901617
>You get banned for expressing your opinion no matter how you express it.
Still sounds like /pol/'s "I dindu nuffin" to me.

Do you think this is a legitimate post that should not be deleted? >>/jp/thread/15893215
What about this? >>/jp/thread/15893553

>>15901678
>Why? Why is it worse that they were deleted than archived if you think they weren't going to get posts anyway?
Why can certain brand of "approved shitposting" remain and other not? I just think that plenty threads that get deleted have potential.
>Still sounds like /pol/'s "I dindu nuffin" to me.
You missed the part of "no matter how you express it by picking those terrible examples of it. I've seen some really polite posts getting deleted. Anyhow, it can't be helped since it's part of the global rules.

>>15901711
I didn't pick terrible examples. Those two posts are the precursors to this thread.

>>15901768
Both are being all passive aggressive on the "angry janny". How aren't they terrible examples? There were a bunch of precursors to this thread. They were pretty civilized and still got deleted. I guess that was what he meant.

>>15901678
>Do you think this is a legitimate post that should not be deleted?
I'm not surprised nor shocked that these threads would be deleted given how passive-aggressive they are. I'm not particularly happy with the deletion of the original thread, but it's one drop in a very large bucket.

This isn't just about the otaku killer thread. If all I wanted was for that thread to live I'd just remake the OP while playing dumb. But no thread and no post that has ever acknowledged the presence of moderation gets survives long in /jp/. It has been going on for months.

>Those two posts are the precursors to this thread.
The real precursor to this thread is any number of threads about /jp/ that promptly bit the dust in the last year.

>>15901802
>There were a bunch of precursors to this thread.
Really, where are they? Because I only see two made between the otaku killer thread being deleted and this one being made after two other "attempts."

>>15901896
I don't feel like searching for them but they were made within this week so you shouldn't have trouble finding them.

>>15901333
The word normie existed long before /jp/.

And he explicitly stated exactly why he's complaining, but apparently you prefer arguing with imaginary opponents instead. Just like Hillary and cartoon frog.

>>15901522
/jp/ was never modless except for dec 2010 to aug 2012, and if you liked that period and the toxic contentless cesspool it became, you're free to fuck off to /s4s/ and stop wasting everyone's time here. In particular, the early moderation was really strict, purging entire topics and thread types.

>>15901617
>Shitposting implies malice.
No. It implies exactly what it says. Shit posting, posting shit. Nothing more, nothing less.

>>15901620
The site is much more orderly nowadays, is what he must have meant. Few would deny it's still shit in other ways.

>>15902523
And because it's a meaningless buzzword that must mean it's from /v/!

>>15902523
>/jp/ was never modless except for dec 2010 to aug 2012
Well, it looks like you never browsed /jp/ back then. Even 2008-2009 was a "toxic contentless cesspool" even though it was more moderated.
What do you come to /jp/ for?

thread is still being bumped mods are monitoring

I was reading warosu today, and through this thread found that my rizon nick has become popular amongst general-user conspiracy retards, after I tried to get a rule-breaking post deleted by using 4chan's IRC channel. I'm surprised and amused. That's what ``starbow'' is.

>>15902592
Maybe you should stay on /a/ or /m/, I heard /m/ likes namefags.

>>15902523
>The word normie existed long before /jp/.
No doubt somebody in this wide world used the infantilization of "normal" decades and decades ago, but as widespread 4chan terminology it's somewhat recent.

>No. It implies exactly what it says. Shit posting, posting shit.
The entire point of implications is that they imply things that are not explicitly stated. When someone refers to a shitposter they are referring to someone who intentionally degrades the board.

>>15902619
m8 your thread never was and never will be welcomed by the rest of /jp/. Be happy that your thread is so long and the janitor so vigilant that nobody ever reminds you of this.

>>15901386
>It's not something new and funny like the first thread might have been. It doesn't contain any new content either.
But there is no more first thread and no more new content. Any new meme you tried to make these days would have about a 2/3 chance of being deleted for being "shit" or "contentless", at which point it's dead forever because if you ever try to get it started again you'll get banned for reposting. There's a reason why most of what's left in /jp/ is the endless reposting of protected /jp/ heritage and imported Japanese memes.

>>15896435 pointed out that people should produce new content instead of clinging to archaic memes but nobody wants to make content that gets canned before you even get to see if anyone found it amusing.

>>15901678
>Why? Why is it worse that they were deleted than archived if you think they weren't going to get posts anyway?
Every new thread is a gamble. The vast majority of "new threads" in /jp/ die for lack of interest, and this goes for both new funposts and new topics. But at least if you see one survive to the end of its natural life you know it had a chance. Mow them down and you don't even have that.

Also, the internet is serious business, and there's no reason not to sympathize with other people who get their threads deleted just because it didn't happen to you. Sometimes a deleted thread is just a deleted thread, but sometimes what really gets removed from /jp/ after all is said and done is a user or a topic. Deletions matter.

>>15902592
Nobody cares.

>>15902556
I'm going to overlook you moving the goalposts and even make a generous assumption that you actually read /jp/ at that time, because I need to make a point here.

The problem with people like you is that you cannot tell meaningful content from wikipedia bot spam. I'm sure you'd feel right at home with much of the shit that got posted on early /jp/ (which was a direct continuation of old /a/, which was more or less a continuation of early /b/, so, yeah). The problem is that you wouldn't notice anything else. (At best, at worst you'd actively oppose it because it offends your fragile memester sensibilities.) 2008 and 2012 are equivalent in your eyes because both had shitty spam, but it does not mean they actually were. It means you're incapable of appreciating anything that isn't shitty spam.

Early /jp/ worked because there wasn't enough people like you to shit it into oblivion. It's entirely possible it only worked because most of them stayed behind on /a/. There's an argument to be made that what worked then wouldn't even work now, with a different userbase, and with people like you around. But that's not an argument to be had with you, because you don't even understand what other people could want from a board aside from a place to spam memes.

>>15902666
>widespread 4chan terminology
I snickered at widespread, but I won't argue with that. As long as you're not claiming it's an original world-wide innovation like I've seen people do.

stop discussing /r9k/, /pol/ andhow shitty /jp/ was when you started posting and talk about what needs to be done to the board

Separate /jp/ into /japan general + 3D/ and /japan2D/.
Current jannies and moderation belongs to general 3D.

How about something I don't think anybody here has addressed:

We all should be able to delete our own posts like other boards again.

The reason why this feature was disabled was because of people deleting their own threads to troll and cry foul against the mods/janitors, but the catch is, since our janitor deletes so much stuff to begin with for so many vague whims what does it even matter if a post is deleted by the OP or not?

I guess nothing will ever really come of these threads.

In the end, /jp/ will just keep sleepwalking into eternity.