/jp/ - Otaku Culture

>>15794431
FINALLY!!

So the horrid tanuki believes that Kasen is trying to take over the shrine. Which implies the death of Reimu.

Yet more grimdark thrown into the mix, I see.

>>15794461
honestly i think kasen will be portraid as a honest and "good" person in the end despite hiding her identity
hopefully she BTFOs some youkai meddling in the shrine

The end

>>15794483
I hope there's fanart of generic Tanukis

>>15794461
No it doesn't and no it isn't. Settle down.
Mami's probably full of shit anyway.

32??? The last I read was 28, how did I even end up so far behind?

>>15794612
Because everything past 28 is still in "rough draft" phase, so you can only get them from Clarste's blog.

What did she mean by this?

>>15794653
that it's is's a rough draft

>>15794626
AKA: Clarste refuses to finish them up because being rather lazy and only caring about Clownpiece's stealing the show and the Kosuzu ruins everything the book.

>>15794461
why do people always immediately jump to these ridiculous over-the-top conclusions that make no sense

This chapter was great. Much entertained.

>>15795367
Fuck off, there hasn't been scans for the recent WaHH chapters and he's made that explicitly clear. He doesn't even give enough of a shit about VFiS to make a second draft.

>>15794461
That makes no sense

Nice to see the hermit put the damn Tanuki back in her place where she belongs as a dirty youkai.

Why is Mamizou so shit when her minions are so cute?

>>15796109
Granny glasses and no hime_eyebrows

>>15796109
It's the same reason why the Kappaa are cuter than Nitori.

>>15794484
BEST LIL GATECRASHER EVER

>>15794483
.
I want to fuck a tanuki.

>>15794483
If there ain't there will be some soon. And there will be porn of them. tons of it.

>>15794483
Those tanuki are C U T E

Doujins when?

>>15794528
>What a Shame

Welp, this chapter clinched it. I think I love Kasen now.
Smug hermit is best hermit.

>>15794431
>>15794439
Damn, Mamizou

you a cold ass bitch

>>15796477
She's really becoming arrogant as fuck lately. Someone needs to give her a good ole cunt punt at this rate.

>Reimu and Marisa always spending time together
why does this make my heart flutter

>>15794484
Fuck yeah, Suika

Been a while since I've been quite satisfied by a chapter of WaHH

>>15796617
They are really good friends.

>>15796617
>>15796873

Marisa x Reimu is canon

ZUN really has a hardon for Mamizou, doesn't he?

Can't Mamizou fuck off

>>15794483
Is it just me or are those other tanuki wearing pants while Mamizou's wearing a skirt?

Mamizou is truly a dirty old lady, walking around with her own harem of shota fucktoys in public!

Kasen is smug! SMUG!

>>15796957
Those are girls, you fucking idiot. Stop being a cancerous shotafag and read.

>>15794484

>>15796617
>>15796873
>>15796885
Yurifags fuck OFF

>>15797481
Raise your voice in this thread again and I'll find you.

>>15797481
O-oh I was only seeing a really nice and cute friendship, I didn't realize they were implying that Marisa and Reimu are lovers.

>>15797481
No!

Yurifags stay and stay stay!

>>15797365
Jeez anon, please do not use such harsh language on our comfy board!

If we can joke about Wriggle being a boy I can joke about Mamizou's henchmen being boys. They all even have short hair and pants like Wriggle.

>>15797481
>Implying >>15796873 is yuri
Reimu is the tsukkomi and Marisa is the boke.

>>15794434
Is this nerd talking to herself?

IS KASEN AN ONI OR NOT?

>>15794441
Reimu's bean!

>>15794470
guys
i think kasen
might be hiding something
is she, maybe
................. an oni?

>>15794483
little tanukis:
thick (very cute) eyebrows
big tanuki:
slim uncute eyebrows

why

>>15796109
She's not, you're just a cunt.

I want to take a bath with her.

>>15798148
>>15798073

Stop making stupid assumptions, thank you!

>>15797566
I wasn't actually ( >>15796617 ) I just really like their friendship. They're bros. Sisters?

>>15794470
There we go.

Hey everyone, its already time for WaHH number 33! This time it's a Yukari episode, the real know-it-all mastermind! How can Mamizou even compare?

http://imgur.com/a/nsyRA

Also the final draft of WaHH 29 got uploaded to Batoto

I want to protect this smile.

>>15798856
Did yukari actually go collect weeds by herself? Oddly active of her.

>>15799006
lol

>>15798856
What did she mean by this?

>>15798856
Holy shit, Sakuya just roasted the hell out of Reimu.

I wonder if the whole thing with foreign stuff being dangerous to Gensokyo (and being in danger in Gensokyo) is supposed to tie-in with the next game.

>>15798856
>Don't do drugs!
My fucking sides.

>>15798999
Youkari low quality smile a cute!

>>15799361
I think it was hinting at Kasen and Sumireko's relationship in CoLA 2

In that chapter it was shown Sumireko had been bringing Kasen stuff from the outside.

Presumably Sumireko brought Kasen the fish, etc. But Kasen and others allowing Sumireko freedom to come and go may have allowed her to track in other things since she isn't following proper procedure.

It's a warning to Kasen to keep Sumireko on a tighter leash.

>>15799399
God I just hate Sumireko, she ruins everything.

>>15799399
That makes perfect sense. Too bad the surprise was ruined by getting all the lore in the wrong order. Oh well.

>>15799404
That's some attitude.

Hey does someone have a update it torrent for the whole serie so far? the one I used to use has been stuck on chapter 25 for months now.

>>15798856
Cute Remi, dude.

What the hell. You make wine with dandelions or you eat it into a salad.

>>15799399
In before Sumireko go to Gensokyo while she's suffering from a japanese cold
In before a great number of humans in Gensokyo die because of it.

>>15799360
could that be where the next barrier crack appears?

>>15799361
It's more a ULIL reference

>>15799404
She really is a bad OC you find in so many Self Insert fics...

>>15799360
Maybe just the weeds

>>15796401
>>15798671
She was a good youkai.

>>15798856
Why is she complaining about dandelions when other such as potatoes and sunflowers are also foreign?

>>15800375
>She really is a bad OC you find in so many Self Insert fics...
Of all the things you can critize her for, you chose the one that's false.

>>15798856
But... ZUN said Yukari was nasty! She can't be nasty if she goes through sterilization procedures!

>>15800711
Western dandelions are a type of weed. Nobody wants these pieces of shit.

>>15799360
It's Kasen.

She used some kind of portal to open a door to the old hell. Well, she did the opposite in that scene, from there she popped out in the forest.

Because Kasen IS AN ONI

>>15800711
The same reason rabbits and other critters became a plague in Australia

>>15794431
Newspapers are scary

Wow, a chapter on the dangers of invasive species. I actually did not expect that from ZUN.

>>15801182
It's social commentary on why the US needs the wall. Though I'm pretty sure I don't want to eat any Mexicans.

>>15801201
>I'm pretty sure I don't want to eat any Mexicans.
Can't knock it till you've tried it.

>>15800022
I think you might have missed one of the key points of this chapter.

>>15801201
I thing that would be more related to australia and a greater extent, to all insolate islands around the globe (tecnically gensokyo is an island)

>>15794475
OH SHIT

>>15798856
>Almost like pening a door to Makai
Shinki, I feel it in my bones

>>15794475
I wonder if /jp/ already saw this chapter.

People seems to be surprisingly indifferent about it.

>>15805463
It's not really new information, no matter how much the manga wants to push it as such.

>>15805472
Yeah, but sometimes people thought it might not be the case even jokingly and this is the first time we get such a clear hint.
When did someone said it out loud that she is an oni before this?

>>15805537
I thought it was a bit surprising, because indeed nobody has ever outright said it before.

>>15805463
That comic got dumped in another thread before and we talked about it there. Though there wasn't much to say about it.

>>15805463
I think it's a red herring. They've been pushing the whole "Kasen is an oni" for so long, it seems weird to spell it out for the audience now. I bet it's a trick.

>>15801182
"...if contaminants get mixed in, they've got to be eliminated"
>"Huh? What's wrong, Merry? Why are you looking at the sky?"
>"Oh, what? Sorry, where was I?"

>>15805755
Terminator Merry when?

It's honestly gotten to the point where I just wish they'd admit Kasen is one of the Big Four Oni so they can just move on, the "is she one???" jokes are really old at this point.

>>15806187
WaHH was always a meme manga, just like the one with the faires.

>>15806220
The HELL is a meme manga

>>15806269
A manga I don't like

>Invasive species

Is this an allegory to "fuck you <insert character> enters Gensokyo fanstories"?

>>15806535
It's probably just ZUN offering commentary on aspects of society. He does it all the time, whether it's on hikikomori, disabilities, or global warming.

Not everything is some sort of deep allegory.

>>15801182
Have you already forgotten the FS chapter about social media and mass surveillance?

>>15805463
no proper drawed horns no proper confirmation

>>15806535
not only per se, is all the little shits that aren't taken into consideration (dandelions for instance)

Those were some fun chapters. Shame that they come out so rarely.

>>15806554
>>15808943

This "Zub" guy sounds like a retard

https://imgur.com/a/ZvZSn

N-nani??

>>15811471
Clarste is on a roll lately.

Also
>ALL THIS CONTINUITY

>>15811471
Marisa a fucking best.

Reminded that Reimurder is the wonderful shrine maiden of slaughter who only give a shit about killing things.

>>15811471
Last panel is Rinnosuke in a nutshell.

>>15811501
Would Reimu actually deck a schoolgirl for what is a minor inconvenience at best that poses no real danger?

>>15811508
Rinno avoiding the inevitable shitshow that will happen.

>>15811471
Reimu stuck in her house for days...

Does this mean she wasn't bathing?

>>15811471
>mfw QUALITY

>>15811510
Yeah.

>>15811471
Good magician

best friend

>>15811653
neet Reimu is cute!

Remind me across what timespan of years the series has been taking place again?

Will Reimu turn into a delicious Christmas cake soon?

>>15796873
They really are? or Reimu is just looking after her to kill her in case she becomes a youkai?

>>15811678
In theory, everything from PCB onwards has happened in more or less real-time, and we even have exact dates for a lot of events. Before that, ZUN didn't care about continuity (to the point of saying "Touhou is not a series, just a set of games with the same characters" back in the PC-98 days).

So Reimu should be 14 years older now than she was in EoSD. But with the vague art and multiple artists, the only character who seems to visibly age is Akyuu. You could probably handwave all this with "people live longer in Gensokyo, especially if they're spiritually powerful".

>>15811471
All those references. I love it.

>>15811756
Also, the legal drinking age in Japan is 20, and it's illegal to show underage characters drinking.

Marisa drinks sake in PCB, so she's officially at least 32 years old by now.

>>15811802
Marisa is an old hag wearing bloomer?

>>15811802
>it's illegal to show underage characters drinking
Wasn't that only in certain magazines or something? I know for a fact Bakuon has underage drinking

>>15811471
I like that the sneering Kasen is sticking around for the disclaimer card.
Also Kasen is a shinigami confirmed. That's why Komachi's visiting her all the time.

>>15811471
References to ULiL, LoLK, CoLA, and FS. This chapter gave me a continuity boner.

>>15811471
Holy fuck, are we getting an actual plot arc with a new enemy for Reimu to fight?

haha who am I kidding, ZUN would never do something interesting like that

>>15812258
What? No, why would you think that?
The next enemy, a bunch of tanuki shaped like a UFO!

>>15812284
I'm a sleep-deprived retard and thought that Kaden wanted to instigate an incident to cheer Reimu up. Plus I thought the whole UFO staking across the sky thing was a hint to SOMETHING happening in the future.

Fuck's sake, ZUN, give me my incident manga already.

>>15812302
It's childish to complain.

>>15811471
Man this was a very nice chapter. Marisa is such a good girl and that plotwist was quite funny.

>>15812302
>Plus I thought the whole UFO staking across the sky thing was a hint to SOMETHING happening in the future.

It probably will, but for a game, ZUN only made SSiB because he wanted an unbeatable boss.

>>15812302

He did.

It was called Silent Sinner in Blue.

Everyone hated it.

I'm going to sound like an autist but this panel is what interested me the most.

Here, you can see running water (presumably from a faucet by the looks), dish soap and cleaning sponges being used in Reimu's shrine, which is a relatively out of the way place. It looks like Gesnokyo's living standards/ tech level has either jumped dramatically the past few years or had always been very, very close to modern living standards.

>>15812747

What I was talking about.

>>15812747
I'd say they were at late Edwardian level tech as taps and pears soap and liquids were staples by then. The oven on the other hand still looks like it walked out of the early Stuart dynasty though.

>>15812734
>It was called Silent Sinner in Blue.
>Everyone hated it.

Everyone who doesn't know what a Bougetsushou is and only read the Silent Sinner in Blue part hated it. You can tell because they always complain about things like "the Watatsukis are the most racist Lunarians" (when they stand up for humans multiple times, to the point where other Lunarians distrust them) and "Yukari shouldn't have lost" (Yukari WON).

>>15812865
Silent Sinner in Blue along with Bougetsushou/Cage in Lunatic Runagate is the best Touhou "action" work to date, me think.

Most of the SSIB readers can't even tell what the titular Silent Sinner in Blue is.

>>15812865
>>15812891
How does that change the fact the Zun introduced the 2 mary Sue "we can't be beaten by anything" characters? That's what the people hate and knowing Bougetsushou does not change that fact.

>>15813025
But they clearly can be beaten, they have been beaten in the very same novel.

>>15813025
>One sister forced into a stalemate against Reimu
>The other gets outsmarted/outplayed by Yukari
>can't be beaten by anything

Can anyone seriously tell me who Silent Sinner in Blue was?

>>15813790
a possible suspect: SY

answer this question did she or did she not obtain property that was not hers?

>>15813847
It's right.

I mean, it's obvious if you think about it.

>answer this question did she or did she not obtain property that was not hers?
That's not her sin.

Her sin is suicide.

>>15812258
>Holy fuck, are we getting an actual plot arc with a new enemy for Reimu to fight?
Yeah, it's called Touhou 16.

>>15801060
https://youtu.be/51VhG8MKxJY

>>15813785
>One sister forced into a stalemate against Reimu
So everytime a villian takes a hostage to a gunpoint and forces the hero into a stalemate "he beats" the hero according to you?
That logic is just retarded

>>15814169
Not that anon, I think Reimu and mostly Sakuya was just going with the flow that time cos I don't see any seriousness from those two. No fantasy heaven etc.

>>15814532
>I think Reimu and mostly Sakuya was just going with the flow that time cos I don't see any seriousness from those two. No fantasy heaven etc.
I agree with that.

But I still don't see how Reimu beat her like that anon said. It was just basically "holding a gun at a hostage" situation, which created a stalemate .At least that's not what I call beating someone.

>>15812747
Running water isn't a new invention, Romans had it. Considering Gensokyo is a small place and it has various water sources it's not impossible technology.

You can make natural soap , my grandma used to make it herself. You can also make sponges but I'll give you that since the shape looks industrial made, but I guess it's just the artist there.

How come Sakuya is so knowledgeable about outside history when she did not even know who Armstrong was?

>>15814643
She's an asian

>>15814643
Probably lost interest in humans around Armstrong times.

>>15814643
>armstrong
who gives a shit

>>15814540
>But I still don't see how Reimu beat her like that anon said.

Maybe that's because I never said Reimu beat her? That's the whole point of calling it a "stalemate". Neither side truly loses, but neither does either one truly win.

The main point is that, the two sisters were working together to defend the moon on two fronts, and even if Yorihime got a draw on her end, the failure on Toyohime's end means it was a net loss for the both of them. Their overall objective was to stop the intruders, they technically failed, and therefore they were beaten.

>>15814643
There are several possible explanations.
1. Her knowledge of history is limited only to information relevant to her interests. Having no interest in US history or space, she would have no reason to know about Armstrong.
2. She lost contact with other humans before 1969, and thus knows nothing about humanity after that time. This would imply, however, that she's much older than she appears to be, which would require subscribing to other theories as well.
3. Her knowledge of history is limited to Asia. This would imply that she actually is Asian, or at least grew up in an Asian country.

>>15814643
She cooks for an eccentric.

Why wouldn't she know eccentric cooking facts?

>>15814561
How do you make sponges at home? Gensokyo doesn't have an ocean so the sponges have to be either imported, artificial (artificial sponges were first developed in America in the 1940s), or both.

They used dishcloths beforehand.

I forgot how fun Touhou manga were.

Shame that fairies come out once in 3 months.

>>15815313

You can probably buy sponges from Kourin. Or she got them from Sumireko.

>>15811471
Mah nigga Rinnosuke

It was just dumb ol' Nue, right? Glowing orbs are not really a new thing in Gensokyo after all.

>>15815105
>This would imply that she actually is Asian, or at least grew up in an Asian country.

Or she's a friggin weeaboo

>>15811471
Why Shinigami?

>>15811471
How is Marisa even alive

>>15815436
But who is on the ground then if it's Nue is up there?!

>>15815805
Mamizou on the streets, Nue in the sheets.

>>15813025
If people hate characters for being considered as a matter-of-fact to be impossible to "defeat", they're missing the point of the story and of the series as a whole. You can only tell certain stories by forcing the narrative to align in a way where the characters' actions will make sense in context. If they weren't impossible to defeat, the story becomes nonsensical and pointless. That is Touhou in a nutshell; it's never been about whether somebody can be defeated by powerlevels alone, and the series is explicit about that being the intention.

>>15815664
She's a magician, which means she's researching to become immortal

Along the way, all those poisons and shit will take their toll

>>15794517
>>15796077
Smug Kasen is amazing.
As a person who likes Ran and Marisa 2, fuck Tanuki.

>>15798856
Clearly "Dandelions" are a metaphor for gaijin. The cancer that kills Japan, invades it and will eventually get eaten. The devilish fairies are clearly a reference towards American marines causing trouble in Japan.

Why is Yukari awake so early?
I thought she woke up late afternoon?

>>15799361
It hurts to see characters I saw as friends being so catty. This is how Aya and Momijifags felt, Zun's cruelty is endless.

>>15806554
>on hikikomori, disabilities, or global warming.
I missed these.
Is this WaHH?

>>15811471
Not a Reimufag, I dislike her. Fuck neet Reimu is cute.
Short hair Marisa is the work of the devil.

>>15816398
>It hurts to see characters I saw as friends being so catty.
I'd say it's just some friendly banter, I doubt Sakuya does it to be cruel.

>>15816468

>>15816489
Most people bitch about baggy eyes, anyone else like them?
Also Reimu looks miles better with her hair down.

>>15816504
Baggy eyes look good in 2D but not so much in 3D.
And her hair looks so better with hair down, would be nice to see more characters with their hair down also.

>>15816398
>It hurts to see characters I saw as friends being so catty.
Nothing wrong with a little bit of banter here and there. Gotta stay sharp, you know?

>>15816398
>It hurts to see characters I saw as friends being so catty.

You're honestly surprised that a group of magical assholes who are almost as well-known for their pre-fight smack talk as they are for shooting shit at each other as a means of conflict resolution might engage in taking digs at each other when an opportunity presents itself?

>>15816511
3D rarely looks good when compared to 2d.

What other characters would look good with their hair down?
Eirin and Hina. Meiling would look strange without braids imo.

>>15816537
I would like to see how Sakuya looks without her braids, and I think Orin might look better without her braids.

>>15816576
Sakuya would look strange.
Orin would look plain wrong.

>>15816504
>>15816511
But if she always had her hair down it would become normal, and so seeing her with her hair down wouldn't be anything special

>>15815105
From the same source as the "Sakuya never heard of Armstrong" thing:

>Remilia: "Truth is, humans have already been to the moon. The era of devils like us has already come to an end."
>Sakuya: "But I'm not a devil, am I? What about me?"
>Remilia: "You've been here with us for such a long time that it hardly seems fitting to still call you human."

Incidentally, from Embodiment of Scarlet Devil:
>Remilia: "Ow, careful! You're exposing me to sunlight!"
>Reimu: "Honestly, you'd look better with a bit of suntan. You're sickeningly pale."
>Remilia: "But it'll vaporize me before tanning me. And if you happen to inhale it,
it will make you immortal."
>Reimu: "...That's not good."
>Remilia: "It really isn't, is it?"
>Reimu: "Okay, let me have about 20 years worth of it then."
>Remilia: "Uguu..."

>>15814643
I wish that Zun would tell us about Sakuya's past someday.

>>15818320
Do you really want that?
"Tell us more about Momiji and Aya Zun!"
"They hate eachother".
"Here is some new info on Ran, she's not actually the fox, but is enslaving the fox, who is so broken it gave up resisting, Chen isnt a cat either=.
Soon it will turn out Kasen isnt oni, but some other horned youkai, or the horn part of the title is a pun designed to mislead.

>>15818574
And there we get this autist.

>>15811794
How does Reimu know about America or at least not question what it is?

>>15818574
>"Here is some new info on Ran, she's not actually the fox, but is enslaving the fox
That's not new info. That's just how shikigami work. And it's not like ZUN ever showed any signs of diverging from the source material - on the contrary, he goes out of his way to compare them to computers, and Yukari has even talked about debugging Ran before.

It would be like if there was a story where Greek Fire was said to be modelled after dragon breath, and a dragon kept saying things like "I have burned down countless cities" and "the fire within me keeps me warm", but you got shocked when the author said dragons can breathe fire.

>>15815032
Lunarians

>>15818854
Maybe Zun is getting sloppy with his writing.

>>15818854
Why on earth would she care? Do you really think she's going to instantly calm down just because Sumireko said a name she doesn't recognise?

>>15818902
Because the Lunarians are always naming it and she's getting tired of their shit.

Do you even read the source material?

Did my question trigger something?

>>15818854
>>15818886
The Japanese weren't totally ignorant of the outside before 1885. They still had information from their trading partners like the Portuguese, Dutch and Chinese. Matthew Perry himself landed in 1853, three decades before Gensokyo was sealed off.

http://brilliantmaps.com/1853-japanese-map-of-the-world/

Just an example. They got a lot of things of the time wrong, but it doesn't completely miss the mark. Likely all or most of it gleamed from the above named sources.

Numerous outside publications also filter into Gensokyo, any of which could have given Reimu some idea. Not to mention the SSiB crash course on the outside world.

>>15819057
>Matthew Perry

Jesus Christ I didn't know Chandler was that old!

>>15819057
This. I mean, Kosuzu even has publications which covered the Ebola resurgence and stuff, only a little while after it actually happened.

If Reimu had a genuine interest in something from the outside she has the contacts to learn.

>>15819057
Flan and Marisa know about Agatha Christie too, and Sanae can tell them about outside events. Oh and Yukari obviously.

>>15818854
Might have had an outsider Tourist show up. Just dump em outside the border again.

That and they likely got at least one globe with modernish borders on it. Sure it's probably still showing that the USSR is still around but close enough.

Rinnosuke likely owns it.

Will zun make a game this year?

what'sgoing on here I thought this manga had been out for years?

I want Mamizou to sexually bully me.

>>15820441
No, he made two music CDs

>>15821029
Translations.

>>15818574
>who is so broken it gave up resisting
You guys sure love your fanfiction.

>>15820441

No, he knows he can't beat Kancolle and Granblue.

>>15825349
Those shortstack doarfs are too lewd

>>15818574
>enslaving the fox, who is so broken it gave up resisting
Thank you for this signal that I should stop reading your post.

>>15825298
It's literally just the one person that shows up in every thread and mentions the same tired bullshit over and over.

>>15798856
I wonder what the western devilish fairies would look like.

Sakuya acts more like Remi's mom than her servant!

>>15827048
>It's an adult flavor.
Experience has told me this means that it tastes bad but people eat/drink it anyway because everyone else does.

>>15827048
She has for ages. See IN Extra for example where she stops her bullying Mokou.

It's actually really adorable that Sakuya is a motherly figure, especially when you go with the vampire hunter theory.

>>15827048
She's always acted like Remis mom.
Those two have the most strange and cute relationship, without a doubt my favorite relationship in Touhou.

>>15826854
Well fairies are western in origin
So like regular fairies.

The final version of chapter 30 got uploaded, but everyone's already read that one so instead I'll dump the omake

End

>>15828132
Really, really cute!

>>15828146
Why is every mangaka so frail? What the hell are these people doing to themselves?

>>15828132
>chapter 27

Ah, the chapters that convinced me that Reimu is a giant bitch and deserves corrective rape.

>>15828215

I'd assume it's lack off sleep.

>>15828142
Cute! CUTE!

>>15828146
Does Zun surround himself with qt girl mangakas on purpose?

>>15828115
So this is the volume 6 omake, right?

...that reminds me, did we ever get the other omakes? We did for FS, but I don't think it happened for WaHH.

>>15828289
You wouldn't?

>>15828157
That ZUN omake, absolute madman.

>>15828215
>>15828269
Lack of sleep, lack of exercise, poor diet, etc.

>>15828157
Based ZUN

>>15828132
>warm
I want to hug that warm umbrella.

>>15828146
Jesus, Japs are retarded. No one else works themselves to death.

>>15828136
I want long hair Marisa back.

>>15828338
>>15828357
Goat youkai confirmed for next game.

>>15828146
Manzairaku/Black-haired kappa OTP

>>15828369
I would kill for more horned 2hus

>>15794431
q, from xlated ch.30[MangaHere]
Is a Keseran-Paseran some form of Tribble, or vice versa?

>>15794501
I bet 2 joints and they're all baked...

>>15794524
hash oil?????????
kek

>>15827048
She always did.

>>15828363
>I want long hair Marisa back.
Short hair Marisa is cute, CUTE

>>15828392

>>15828215
>Why is every mangaka so frail? What the hell are these people doing to themselves?
They overwork themselves with a few hours of sleep, no exercise and a poor diet.

>>15828289
Perhaps he does, or perhaps it's the fact that most of the talent pool is female in the first place.

>>15828788
Long hair Marisa is cuter, CUTER.

>>15828803
>They overwork themselves
They're often forced to overwork themselves.

>>15826854
Clownpiece. Shes' a Greek Fairy.

>>15798856
>all of that just to teach Kasen a lesson and to protect gensokyo's native flora

this is why yukari is my favorite character

>>15833694
It was for faries more than plants.

>>15828162
big fat cat tats

>>15834190

>>15826854
Better read this for Western fairies.
https://youtu.be/BCSUxwuqEzQ

>>15833947
Almost literally the same thing, in-universe.

>>15833947
I always have the impression that fairies can use as biomarkers, geomarkers and so on

>>15825349
I thought kancolle vanished from existence

Seems Kasen has never met Tenshi.

>>15794431
>I'm an atheist

Well that concludes that discussion about atheism in Gensokyo. Just because there's super powerful being calling themselves gods you can still not aknowledge them.

Yeah, here's chapter 35

http://imgur.com/a/yMtad

>>15854852
Sakuya is silly.

>>15854852
ZUN's breaking all kinds of ground with this one.

>>15854847
She's an atheist when goddesses and celestials are in Gensokyo. Wuite the funny girl she is.

>>15854852
So Sakuya's power has never been the manipulation of time but just super speed? Well, moving at light speed fucks with the laws of time but still.

Dat cute as fuck Yukari

Chapters like this scare me, not even Reimu knows what the fuck is truly going on half of the time, living in Gensokyo is more or less like living in the USSR.

>>15854852
Sakuya a shit.
I liked her before but this is INSANELY retarded.
>Hurr I'm atheist
While stopping time, living with vampires,a magician, youkai, faries and a world where gods exist, where they fuck around with you and can be seen.

I can understand not being religious, so hopefully it's poor translation, otherwise this is insanely stupid.
Yukari is best girl yet again.

>>15854884
It gets cuter when she pretends to be the culprit and lets Reimu punish her to cover for worst girl.
Yukari really is the most underappreciated person in Gensokyo.

>>15854852
Why is Kasen so self-righteous? It's getting annoying.

>>15854899
We've always known that the true battles of Gensokyo are the different factions using sneaky underhanded shit to either obtain faith and push their own agenda (Byakuren, Miko, Kanako) or preserve balance (Yukari)

Sumireko is such an oddity in universe it makes sense she'd cause some completely unforseen shit especially with Kasen doing shady shit and constantly bringing her in and keeping it secret

>>15854864
>What you called stopping time is nothing more than moving at extremely high speeds
>Even I am not skilled enough to stop time for other people.

Sakuya can manipulate "time" and "space" otherwise half the thing she did won't make sense. This just seemed like she is bullshitting Reimu and implying that she can only stop time for herself. I think we just found a limit of her power.

>>15854905
>While stopping time, living with vampires,a magician, youkai, faries and a world where gods exist, where they fuck around with you and can be seen.

And? Those are just very powerful beings calling themselves gods, you can't get mad if someone doesn't believe you despite what you can do, yes you're powerful and have crazy powers, but you're not a "God". Try to think about this in a Christian approach instead of an Atheist one, a Christian would say even after seeing those "gods" that there's only one and those are just beings trying to pass as one.
Sakuya is doing more or less the same.

>>15854905
>I can understand not being religious, so hopefully it's poor translation, otherwise this is insanely stupid.
Not really. If you think about it, once you understand the principles behind Gensokyo, you realize how little power supernatural forces have on you. Gods and youkai need belief to sustain themselves, so denying them is just another way of saying you refuse to serve them. It's more like picking a master rather than picking a deity.

Sumireko should honestly just be murdered. she is shit and causes problems for gensokyo.

>>15854905
There's a pretty thin line between gods and youkai in Gensokyo. It's not surprising that some people would just lump them together.

>>15854924
Didnt her power come into play durin IN?
I remember collecting time.

But yeah she was saying things that contradict her abilities like making the SDM bigger, or maintaining her youth as Remi said she was there for a long time.

>>15854911
Because she's trying to be virtuous. She's an oni who went on a rampage, the result was losing her arm. She's just trying to get her life together, just see her as a former addict turned born again Christian. Not bad, good intentions from personal experience, but kinda annoying at times.

>>15854951
>But yeah she was saying things that contradict her abilities like making the SDM bigger, or maintaining her youth as Remi said she was there for a long time.
She is just bullshitting hoping that Reimu will let her be

>>15854847
>>15854863
>>15854905
>Too bad. I don't believe in gods.
-IaMP

It was a throwaway line then, but the hint she was atheist was always there.

>>15854930
>>15854936
How you view them is irrelevant. They exist, you can tell Kanako and Suwako to go fuck themselves, but they are still gods.

Right now some dog is barking outside, it's annoying. I'm not going to like that dog, but I will acknowledge it exists. Her being atheist is like me saying the moon is purple, it doesnt fit with reality. Will she be satisfied with nothing less than watching Suwako vanish? Atheism covers religion as a whole, we know reincarnation, heaven and hell exist in Gensokyo.
>>15854940
I would say yes, youkai and gods are pretty much the same, but to deny them is foolish. You dont have to respect or worship them, but they exist.

>>15854951
She had done many bullshits that involve Time and Space with her power.

All I get from this is Sakuya's isn't skill enough to "Stop Time" for other people. I guess there won't be any use of her power on other humans to grant eternal youth or sth.

>>15854975
I never played the fighting games, they always looked pretty bad.

No matter how long it's been there, I still think it's dumb. Yukari should remove her, she will only harm youkai with such thoughts. It would be funny if she ended up removing Remilia from Gensokyo after her "I dont believe whats in front of me", mentality catches on.

>>15854978
An atheist is somebody who doesn't believe in big G, or more generally that there isn't some sort of eternal, transcendent entity that created everything.
Small fries like Suwako don't really matter much in this case, since they are neither eternal nor transcendent

>>15854905
Not even Kanako in person believe about non-scientifical nonsense and Lunarians have such advanced technology that looks like magic. With a bunch of 2+2's someone can start thinking maybe all these creatures could be explained someone without using religious concepts.

>but they are still gods.

Who proves me that? As far as I know they're just creatures with a lot of power. Just because everyone calls them gods I don't trust that. If one day aliens with superpowers would come down to Earth and convince everyone they're gods I wouldn't believe that and just say they're powerful beings.

This specially makes sense when in Gensokyo anything can become a god if you worship it enough, even a tree, sure it gains magical powers and stuff, but for me it's just a tree that gained magical powers, not a tree.

>>15854984
>I guess there won't be any use of her power on other humans to grant eternal youth or sth.
She uses her power to mature wine or bloom plants. Youth/age for others sounds doable.
But it would just be easier to go youkai or hermit route, or constantly pay Eirin for pills.

>>15855000
*not a god

>>15854847
>Why didn't I think of this sooner
Sakuya confirmed dumbhu

>>15855010
She's teasing Reimu.

>>15854852
This was a great chapter.

And best girl still making waves, it seems.

>>15854847
Sakuya version of atheist is probably different form what many anons been discussing.

I mean not "believing" in gods/higher power doesn't meant she doesn't accept they exist.
There is no way she doesn't know about ministry of right and wrong.

>>15854992
Yukari's powers were linked to creation/destruction iirc, and Keine creates and destroys history.
This doesnt make the idea of God sound far fetched.

>>15855000
So what the hell is a god if not an insanely powerful being?
In Shinto they dont even need to be strong, since you know 8 million of the damn things exist. If you live with illogical things that must consume human blood, turn to dust when sun touches them, are able to fuck around with laws of physics (vampires are fas as fuck, and should not survive full speed, Aya too), create lasers from nothing, destroy things with magic "eyes" only they see, and not cross running water.
Vampires are illogical, yet she isnt denying them. It's less logical to be atheist in Gensokyo, than it is to just assume there is some god.

>>15855028
Sakuya confirmed teasehu!

>>15855001
You'll notice those are both moving something forward. It's explicitly said that reversing time (except for location) is beyond her.

>>15855037
She repaired broken teacups in CoLA

>>15855035
>This doesnt make the idea of God sound far fetched.
Yes, but neither they prove it exists

>>15855036
She's done that a lot lately in WaHH.
Also
>Humans unharmed
>Wasnt me
I thought Remilia was a light eater who just left you slightly anemic?

>>15855042
She didn't. Reread it.
She used stopped time to switch the broken cup for a good one.

I thought there were so many rabbit youkai because they fucked like rabbits. I feel a little disheartened.

Isn't Sakuya flying thanks to her time/space manipulation? How can you handwave that?

Is Yukari implying that Kasen was one of the Youkai sages that helped set up the Barrier? Kasen was able to breach the barrier without the use of the occult balls in ULiL, after all. Maybe the reason she hid her identity was because she rejected Yukari's ideals for Gensokyo.

>>15854978
>How you view them is irrelevant. They exist, you can tell Kanako and Suwako to go fuck themselves, but they are still gods.
Can you really tell a god to go fuck themselves if you truly believe they are gods?

If you acknowledge something as a "god," you are in turn acknowledging their divine nature. Acknowledging a god implies that you believe that their existence has authority over something. (Nature, morality, etc.) Rejecting a god then means that you believe there is another force at play that isn't sacred. Claiming to acknowledge a god while simultaneously saying they're full of shit is inherently contradictory, because if they're full of shit, they can't be gods. Sakuya proclaiming her atheism is another way of saying she thinks that "gods" are just supernatural weirdos who prance about proclaiming their divinity while having none. (Which to a certain degree, is true in the Touhou lore)

>>15854937
ZUN won't let a cute girl be killed

>>15854937
Why don't get just seriously just make her stop coming?
She's only causing trouble for everyone for her own selfish desires and I don't think that many people in Gensokyo like here honestly.

Illegal immigrants ruining our land and replacing our folks

Restore the barrier
Throw out high school girls
Vote Yukari

>>15855073
>Can you really tell a god to go fuck themselves if you truly believe they are gods?
Isnt that what Reimu does regularly? Some uppity god tries something, she slaps them down and forces them to learn their place.

>>15855072
I cant even tell what Yukari's vision is anymore, apparently it changed after lolk.

>>15854937
Why don't they just make her stop coming to Gensokyo? She's only causing trouble for everyone all the time and I don't many people in Gensokyo is really that fond of her.

>>15855073
What are you talking about?
In Gensokyo, rejecting gods means you don't worship any gods. Worship is an active thing you have to do for the gods to get their power.

>>15855089
Ran would be a cute VP.
What would Chen be?

>>15855094
How exactly would they do that?

>>15855096
First cat

>>15855100
Beat the living shit out of her as soon as she appears so she won't bother coming anymore.

>>15855104
But she comes whenever she sleeps, I don't think it's a controllable thing

>>15855065
as far as we know, youkai probably don't even mate; they're born out of superstition and fear

I wonder about the satoris

>>15855104
They did that in ULiL though and she still shows up.

>>15855100
Remove memories of Gensokyo.
Still sounds like Yukari is ok with her, just not the side effects. Yukari manipulating Gensokyo while Maribel is outside. I'm getting worried for Maribel desu. I think Yukari is going to install shikigami software or something unpleasant.

>>15855112
>Yukari manipulating Gensokyo while Maribel is outside. I'm getting worried for Maribel desu. I think Yukari is going to install shikigami software or something unpleasant.
There is still hardly anything canonical between Maribel and Yukari, or did I miss anything?

>>15855032
I also believe thi. The title "god" is thrown all over in Gensokyo like it comes from cereal boxes. Even people like Sanea is titled "god".

>>15855107
>as far as we know, youkai probably don't even mate
False.
Rinnosuke is half youkai.
Kitsune also mate with humans in myths.

Shame I saw no news of this for other youkai, I'm curious to see how a hapf oni would turn out.
Angry, red skin like sunburn, drunk. English on holiday.

>>15855032
This. "Not believing in gods" here doesn't mean she thinks they're not real. It means she doesn't trust them or want to rely on them. Marisa is pretty much the same - she doesn't think much of religion, and thinks humans should do things on their own instead of asking for help.

>>15855000
>This specially makes sense when in Gensokyo anything can become a god if you worship it enough, even a tree, sure it gains magical powers and stuff, but for me it's just a tree that gained magical powers, not a god.
You're putting the cart before the horse here.
The magic trees came first, and the word 神 was invented to describe them. They don't have to "live up to" the word 神; the whole point of the word 神 is to describe the magic trees. Saying that you don't think magic trees are worthy of worship is one thing, but saying that magic trees are not <word meaning magic trees> is a non sequitur.

You might as well say "I don't believe dogs exist. Sure there are domesticated wolves out there, but I don't believe that they are truly dogs". Dog is just a shorthand for "domesticated wolf", so you're saying "I don't believe that domesticated wolves are domesticated wolves".

>>15855091
>Isnt that what Reimu does regularly? Some uppity god tries something, she slaps them down and forces them to learn their place.
Considering Reimu doesn't even know the name of the god she is supposed to worship, I don't think she's particular interested in the whole "belief" thing.

>>15855119
No, but they are clearly tied together, and thats the problem. 3 options, Yukari is her ancestor, Yukari is her from the future, or Yukari grooms her as a replacement body. Given how Ran and Chen are spirits possessing others, and how the family is a spectrum, I worry for Maribel.

>>15855133
She trained real hard, Rocky-style, to be able to channel gods in Silent sinner in blue, didn't she?

>>15855091
I admit I don't have any real idea of what she wants either, but considering this page where Kasen proclaims her ideals against a backdrop of humans, I'm guessing Yukari stands for Youkai dominance and Kasen rejects this.

>>15855133
Slapped Kanako and Suwako down. Hina and Okuu who ate a sun god. Eirin may be Omoikane or whatever it is, Sagume, and the two autumn god sisters.
Reimu is on fire.

>>15855151
No wonder Sakuya does not "believe in gods" when her friends beats the shit out of them all the time.

Unworshipped gods become youkai or wild, they're all at the base level a thought form powered by belief. Sakuya knows the Gensokyo meta.

So let me get this straight.

>Sakuya is a fraud and isn't actually stopping time
>Sumireko is causing a shitload of trouble but nobody wants to touch her for some reason
>Reimu is bluepilled

wat the fug

>>15855150
Youkai dominance is foolish, youkai need humans. I think Yukari just tries to maintain the status quo.
I side more with Yukari, Gensokyo is a sanctuary for endangered species after all. Humans have the outside world.

>>15855167
Gensokyo civil war when?

>>15855163
Pretty sure they just vanish.

>>15855164
>Sakuya is a fraud and isn't actually stopping time
Well she is not really a fraud if she's the one telling people she's not stopping time...but has Zun not already said that she does have the ability to manipulate time and space?

>>15855164
In a way, it would make sense if she could only do the same thing as The World.

>>15855173
manipulate time and space =/= stop time

>>15855164
>Sumireko is causing a shitload of trouble but nobody wants to touch her for some reason
Yukari doesn't want to cause a time paradox. If not for the Sealing Club, Maribel would have gone insane long ago.

>>15855173
She's moving fast WITH ZERO MASS. Normally if you move that fast your mass becomes infinite.

>>15855170
Advance the flag of Yukari! Hurrah! Hurrah!
In Yukari's land we take our stand, and live or die for Yukari!
To arms! To arms! And conquer peace for Yukari!
To arms! To arms! And conquer peace for Yukari!

>>15855172
They go through a progression before vanishing ala Aki sisters and Hina (assuming she's a true goddess and not just a curse goddess in name.)

>>15855164
>Sumireko is causing a shitload of trouble
Yukari's reaction doesn't agree with this.
>but nobody wants to touch her for some reason
Kasen clearly wants her around. You want to anger an oni? Is that what you want to do?

>>15855224
This. Yukari actually defended Sumireko in the latest chapter, and Kasen has done so as well. She's here to stay and she's got enough people on her side.

>>15855224
>You want to anger an oni
Suika and Kasen would look cute.
Only angry Yuugi scares me.

>>15854852
so, the power of sakuya is almost the same that homu pre-rebellion?
damn

Okay, a few things:

A) Sakuya never said that she didn't have magical time powers. Everyone who read it that way is an idiot. She's just casting Quick/Haste on herself instead of Stop on the enemy. The end result is still free turns, and she can still manipulate time/space in other ways.

B) Sakuya being an atheist is a throwaway joke and it's really funny. Sakuya says funny things a lot. Stop arguing about this.

C) The actual point of the chapter is that Kasen is one of the fucking youkai sages who created Gensokyo and this is the goddamned mindblowing reveal that everyone's been waiting for since chapter 1, but you're all arguing about Sakuya's 2 page cameo instead.

>>15855072
Yeah, that.

>>15855194
>trusting a hag
into the maw of rumia you go

>>15855529
>and this is the goddamned mindblowing reveal that everyone's been waiting for since chapter 1
Clearly not, since nobody is talking about it.

Plus the reveal "everyone's been waiting for" is Kasen admitting she's a wild and horned oni.

>>15854852
>exchange spell
thats a way to explain the whole PoDD and why never see again them
probably mima was excanged for alice too

>>15855529
>B) Sakuya being an atheist is a throwaway joke and it's really funny.
You cant just say that, it's not funny btw.

>>15855574
No interest in her admission, just the response. I'm hoping she's worried people will hate her, then gets the "who cares, you're a nice person" response.

>>15855615
Where did they go to?

>>15855529
>She's just casting Quick/Haste on herself instead of Stop on the enemy. The end result is still free turns, and she can still manipulate time/space in other ways.
But is not Youmu and Aya suppose to be really insanely fast? Does this mean Sakuya is the fastest Touhou if she's so fast that everyone actually thought she stopped time?

Sakuya is so fast she can clean the mansion by herself yesterday on the current day

>>15855164
>Reimu is bluepilled
that dated before SSiB

>>15855167
order in gensokyo was

innanimate things<plants<unconcious animals<outsiders humans<fairies=<humans=<feral youkais=<lesser youkais=lesser gods<<youkais living in societies<gods=<celestials

>>15855529
>The actual point of the chapter is that Kasen is one of the fucking youkai sages who created Gensokyo
the question is, who more? I guess tengu lord and the head of kitsune village are the others ones as well

>>15855636
probably to a far future with yumemi, ellen go back to their story tho

>>15855529

If Sakuya can use Quick why doesn't she just Quick Leak things to death?

>>15856084
Hermits?
Half youkai?
Yukari isnt in society, she's high tier.
Oni?
Tengu?
Lunarians?
Inchlings?
Magicians?
Shinigami?
Yama is highest tier given they judge everyone. Shinigami should outrank celestial since they hunt them.
>>15856099
Will we ever see the Kitsune village?
Imagine all those fluffy tails.
Since Reisen is a pet, youkai can be pets. Does this mean I could abduct Marisa 2 without the village hating me? She's the most adorable kitsune in any medium.

>>15855253
>thinking a legit angry Suika wouldn't be terrifying

>>15855529
>The actual point of the chapter is that Kasen is one of the fucking youkai sages who created Gensokyo
Uh, was that really it? I don't know. Kasen didn't seem to even know how the barrier actually worked and mostly has questions for how Gensokyo works.

>>15856234
She's cute. She cant be scary, even as a giant.

>>15856155
>lunarians
not gensokians as a whole, the exiled prefer to stay hidden so doesn't count that much in the hierarchy

>oni
the underground have their own hierarchy aside surface (until ZUN say otherwise), but oni are in the top

>tengu
in youkais living in societies

>Inchlings
we don't know much about them, but I guess they are above the common youkai

>Magicians
>Hermits
they ussually stay insolated of all, is chace by chase because you can't compare a beginner with one close to get enlightenment (hermits)

>Half youkai
same that lesser youkais

>Yukari
she is a sage, she is in the top of the (for some reasons omitted) powerfull youkais

>Shinigami
>Yama
both are in the ministry of good and evil