/jp/ - Otaku Culture

>Kuma kidnapped two 7-year-old girls in February 1992

GODDAMNIT KUMA LEAVE THOSE GIRLS ALONE

>>1527994
Amerikkkan detected

Enjoy being backwards

ET TU PEDOBEAR?

>Kuma kidnapped two 7-year-old girls in February 1992 and strangled them.

more infomation on this "kuma"

>>1527947
>>1527945
>>1527937
yes fine, pedobear, we're all thinking it, we all know it.
thats why theres been a lack of his presence around.

Amnesty International can suck my dick along with the ACLU, Greenpeace and the rest of that hippy shit.

Pedobear kidnaps, probably rapes, but does he kill?

>>1527958
god forbid they write letters to governments to free political prisoners and campain to get people off death row who are innocent

PEDOBEAR WAS FRAMED

HE WOULD NEVER MURDER THE LOLIS

...Anything else he'll do to them is fair game though.

>The trial collapsed when it became plain that the police had fabricated the evidence—though not before one defendant had died and another been subjected to over 700 hours of interrogation and 400 days in detention. All the accused had been ground down until they signed confessions of guilt.
lol Japan

Death penalty should be given more. Fuck paying taxes to keep dudes in jail who are gonna be there for life anyways.

>>1527997
Spot the USA in the third world shitholes.

>>1527994
On average it costs more to execute someone than to imprison them for life.

>>1527994
In America, it is actually MORE expensive to put a prisoner to death than to keep them on a life sentence.

Japan is fucked up

They don't have trial by jury, so your hope lies with the judge, who, to acquit you, will lose "face". Add to that the fact that your own defence lawyer is likely to push you to confess, and a confession alone is enough for a conviction..

It's no wonder Japan has a convition rate in excess of 99%

Moral: When in Japan, if you see the police, run.

The death penalty should be more frequent, just to troll Eurofags. Stoning only. Also, it should be done by an annual lottery every June 27. Trust me, it's an American tradition.

>>1527997
USA a third world shithole?

>>1528029
Yes it is, and I'm proud of it

>>1528029
>>1528008
That's obviously the "joke". No wonder everyone else thinks we're a nation of fucking morons.

>>1528020
I loved that story.

And they still HANG people in Japan? At least go with a slightly less barbaric way of killing someone, like lethal injection.

>>1528020
Now tell me, did you read this story beforehand, or are you a newfag that just saw it on South Park?

>>1528045
Quite a few people consider hanging less cruel than lethal injection, actually. Especially if they fuck up your med doses.

Me personally, I'd prefer a guillotine.

>>1527937

I liked him better when he was cute.

>>1528016
>>1528007

I'm not doubting you, but can someone explain to me WHY this is?

I know most inmates are kept on death row for years before they're actually executed, but why would it cost all that extra money to actually execute them?

>>1528048
Literature anthology I picked up at the bookstore, bro.

Have more faith in your fellow man. Did you read the story out of interest or for a class assignment? It doesn't really matter, as long as you read and took time to understand it.

>>1528051
I never understood why the guillotine went out of fashion. It seems a hell of a lot more humane than an electric chair.

If I'm ever to be executed in one of those countries that lets you choose your execution method, I want to be suffocated by a loli butt

That or firing squad

Fuck your blindfold

>>1528062
People have certain hangups about decapitation

>>1528062
Because Edison thought he could put Tesla out of business by promoting the Electric Chair as being powered by Tesla's Direct Current, as if it couldn't be powered by Edison's Alternating Current.

>>1528062
After a few executions the blade gets dull and rusty from various bodily fluids, so it would have to be dropped numerous times to achieve a full decapitation. But I guess these days it should be fairly simple to keep a guillotine well maintained.

>>1528062

I think lethal injection is favored because it doesn't mame or dismember the body, the only thing on it is a needle mark.

>Tesla's Direct Current, as if it couldn't be powered by Edison's Alternating Current.

Wasn't Tesla the one behind A/C?

>>1528054
I've read that it has something to do with the appeals process for death row inmates. Trials are fucking expensive, and in any case involving capital punishment every appeal is going to be long and drawn out.

>>1528082
not in Japan

That's why Japan is superior

A judge says you killed her? Get back in that hole and wait for the hangman to come.

>>1528080
Ah, you are right; I got it backwards.

>>1528067
Tesla did AC, Edison was for DC.

>>1528082
also, keeping someone on deathrow involves a lot more than keeping someone in genpop

though the right wing media like to gloss it over by saying such things as the sodium pentathol and chemicals used only cost $80 or whatever, the truth is most people are on deathrow for many years

By the time they are executed, you're killing a completely different person.

That is, unless they die from old age or natural causes (which is surprisingly common on death row)

>>1528102
I'll meet you half way all current death sentences in the USA are converted to life without parole. All new murder cases have to be backed by solid DNA evidence linking the suspect to the murder. No lengthy appeals. One appeal after conviction and it is done in a speedy fashion. Death sentence carried out swiftly after a failed appeal.

This isn't news. When Japan surpasses Texas then it will be something news worthy.

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>>1528230

Also, Dan Kim.

>>LULZ PEDOBEAR IS EPIC WIN XD
I thought you guys knew when a meme was fucking old. If only all these retarded pedobear shoops would disappear from the surface of the world....

lol

>>1528230
>all these retarded pedobear shoops would disappear from the surface of the world

>Crooked green penis

Oh you funny anon.

>>1528051
>>1528062
Here's a fun fact: so long as the cut is clean and quick enough, you're actually still conscious for a few seconds after your head comes off.

>>1528061
I want to be thrown out of a plane with a landmine taped to my head. I would wear it like a hat and the tape would go around like a chinstrap.

Though with my luck, the landmine would be a dud. I would miraculously survive the fall somehow and wind up in a body cast. The next day, my lawyer would call me in the hospital to tell me that my sentence had somehow been overturned, and I would be free to go. I would look out the window and think, "you know, maybe things are going to be okay." Then a freak accident would kill the power, cutting off my life support, and I would die alone in the dark in a body cast.

>>1528018

Trial by jury doesn't work in community-oriented cultures.

>>1528074
Even in the past it was simple to be maintained. The only problems were when you were executing people one after another.

Trial by jury is a stupid system, that's not the problem with Japan's justice.

>>1528018
>They don't have trial by jury, so your hope lies with the judge, who, to acquit you, will lose "face". Add to that the fact that your own defence lawyer is likely to push you to confess, and a confession alone is enough for a conviction..

>It's no wonder Japan has a convition rate in excess of 99%

That includes people who plead guilty, when you remove them it goes down to 97%.

>and where even defence lawyers urge clients to plead guilty

THIS IS NOT RIGHT. THIS IS NOT WHAT BEING A DEFENSE ATTORNEY IS ABOUT.

I don't know what amerikkans have with their death sentences. Even if it was cheaper than life long imprisonment, it's a pretty pathetic justification. Start charging your lazy bunch of 100 million dollar/year earning managerfags with proper taxes instead.

Also death sentence does not work as deterrence to lower capital crime such as murder at all.

>>1528631

How do you defend a conviction rate of over 99%? Are you trolling?

>>1528843
after reading this everything in phoenix wright makes more sense

ITT, BAWWWing pussy white faggots. Asia doesn't give a fuck about your "human rights" bullshit with prisoners.

ITT, BAWWWing pussy white faggots. Asia doesn't give a fuck about your "human rights" bullshit with prisoners. They have way less crime than Europe, Britain or America, so it seems to me that they're doing it right.

>>1527981
>death row who are innocent

Looks like you should belong there too

>>1528889
I think it's more to help against prison overcrowding. As it is, there are so many people committing crimes that the prisons can't hold all of them. Executions are going to have to be mandatory eventually, because soon prisoners will be starving!

>>1528889
It's Texas' fault mostly. Texans solve most of their criminal problems by putting the offender to death.

>>1528889

If someone commits a heinous enough crime and there's absolutely no doubt about his guilt, I see no problem with the death penalty. Ideally, the family/families of the victim/s would have the right to either commute the convicted killer's sentence from death to life or to let the death sentence stand.

Many of the civilized nations are hurting due to under population and killing off criminals will just hurt the nation more.

>>1529023

The number of prisoners executed per year wouldn't make much of a dent in population decline. Also, most of the people on death row are probably the kind of people we don't want around anyway.

>>1528889

The problem isn't that the criminals are executed, the problem is draconian laws and the media blitz demonizing using lethal force by civilians.

There's always the argument that someone could plan it so a murder looks like self-defense, but that's the way the police investigate it anyway even with legitimate shootings...

>>1529023
It's the underdeveloped nations that need a large workforce of unskilled labor. Developed nations don't need that many citizens.

>>1529017
>If someone commits a heinous enough crime and there's absolutely no doubt about his guilt, I see no problem with the death penalty.

Considering if there's doubt they shouldn't be found guilty in the first place, everyone convicted of a 'heinous' enough crime should be killed? Great.

ITT, BAWWWing pussy white faggots. Asia doesn't give a fuck about your "human rights" bullshit with prisoners.

Japan hangs people? Fuck yeah!

>>1528889

If you see a cop walking around with a gun you passively benefit from the death penalty as deterrence.

People have turned so much of their personal responsibility and power over to the police and have given up their rights to be armed to prevent or stop the act. . The problem isn't that the criminals are executed, the problem is draconian laws and the media blitz demonizing using lethal force by civilians and police, leaving violent criminals alive to try again or clog up the system when they get taken into custody.

There's always the argument that someone could plan it so a murder looks like self-defense, but that's the way the police investigate it anyway even with legitimate shootings. Accidental shootings too are tragic, but if non-lethal force were reliable police wouldn't carry real guns.

>>1529061

What? I'm saying if there's no doubt regarding guilt, considering evidence, and if it's a horrific sort of crime. Leave it to the courts to decide what that means.

>>1529094
If there is doubt they should be found not guilty. You are suggesting 100% of people convicted (of a serious enough crime) be killed.

>>1529109

No, I meant the possibility should be left open.

>>1529094
There's never no doubt, even if the guy confesses.

Ha ha, I sure trust the Japanese justice system, especially when it comes to the legalized murder of its own citizens.

I liked it better when this board was about Japan

>>1529238
This board was never about Japan.

>>1527997
hippy fagget detected an eye for an eye is the oldest and best way to punish for crimes in fact i think executions should still be public and should be carried out almost immediately after the trial. As it would make a more vocal deterrent to crimes

>>1528016
i call bull shit how is it less to feed, clothe, medicate(prisoners get free health care lol) and keep a public defender on retainer for "appeals" for the 80 year life of a prisoner than it is to buy a box of bullets to make six blanks or a fathom of rope or a syringe full of pain killer and a syringe full of muscle relaxant ok lets see the box of bullets its like $3 the rope thats like $10 oh wait i for got the hood a yard of black fabric thats like $4.50 omg the drugs there like $100~200 each oops gas forgot that one maybe like a $1000 dollars compared to millions to keep some one alive to waist the courts time and my money

This is fucked up. I thought Japan didn't have capital punishment, but what's even worse is that you can be killed so easily, yet bastards like those criminals in Concrete Girl can pretty much get off scott free. What's up with that!?

Also, what's so expensive about just grabbing a gun and shooting them in the head when it comes time to kill them in America?

>>1529319
They were juveniles when the crime was commited, even in Japan you can't execute anyone under 18. And as for your other question, blame the "cruel and unusual punishment" clause in the U.S constitution.

>>1529296
/jp/ - 1600s/General.

And when it's later proven that the guy killed was innocent? It was state sanctioned murder so an eye for an eye would be all the people in the state being killed? Perhaps just the bureaucrats that oversaw the department when the killing took place?

>>1529296
That's not what an eye for an eye means at all.

>>1529296

Know what would be a REAL deterrent to crime? Force the convicted to teach grade school students. The only problem with this is that, at least in AmeriKKKa, it would be considered cruel and unusual punishment.

>>1529312

Well, you just made a correct argument in the worst way possible. lrn2english

Streamlining the appeals process would eliminate the cost of execution. Capital punishment is only about deterrence, it's about ensure what's best for society. I don't want murderers on this planet, spreading their seed through conjugal visits. Kill them quickly and humanely.

>>1529312
>i call bull shit how is it less to feed, clothe, medicate(prisoners get free health care lol) and keep a public defender on retainer for "appeals" for the 80 year life of a prisoner than it is to buy a box of bullets to make six blanks or a fathom of rope or a syringe full of pain killer and a syringe full of muscle relaxant ok lets see the box of bullets its like $3 the rope thats like $10 oh wait i for got the hood a yard of black fabric thats like $4.50 omg the drugs there like $100~200 each oops gas forgot that one maybe like a $1000 dollars compared to millions to keep some one alive to waist the courts time and my money

>keep a public defender on retainer for "appeals" for the 80 year life of a prisoner

>compared to millions to keep some one alive to waist the courts time and my money

In the US when someone is sentenced to death an appeal is automatically lodged on behalf of the defendant, that is how the system works and why it costs so much. Learn how your own bloody system works, stupid fuck.

>>1529324
Couldn't they tri them as adults?

>>1529334

I mean, "NOT only about deterrence".

>>1529329
but leglized murder is the best kind of murder i hope your families get killed euro fags then well see your opinions switch when your soft courts want to give the killers a slap on the wrist and have them on there merry way

>>1529333
>>1529334
Extra security for death row inmates (grown men, all of them killers, with literally nothing left to lose) is waaaaaaaaaay expensive

>>1529334
Since when are homicidal tendencies passed through genes?

>>1529335
Wait, wait... you get an appeal even IF YOU DON'T WANT ONE? Wow... just wow... and it still takes them god awful years to execute them...

Not same person you responded btw.

America is really great when they get 'tough on crime'. Kidnapping? Lets make it carry the death penalty, the same as murder.

BAWWWWWWW! Why are they killing the children now instead of returning them? ¯\(°_o)/¯

>>1529012
I find the discussion over death penalty to be usually somewhat limited in what is taken to account. Laws are generally not issued influenced by efficiency alone, but strongly through a general sense of justice and morality among the majority of the group issuing them, that most often is also directly subject to them. There's no universal right or wrong, so naturally matters of law and punishment come from what the people in question consider right. That's generally why us Eurofags debating death penalty in Texas is quite futile; we mostly live in societies with long-standing historical and cultural emphasis on fast reactionary change according to a popular sense of philosophy, liberal humanism of the post-war perioid still remaining to be the currently pre-eminent trend. Most of the U.S. follow the same conjecture, being culturally flexible especially in matters of efficiency and the value of the individual. Still, ever since the frontier era, the national approach to widely present violence and the individual's right - and responsibility - of acting according to his sense of justice has also been of great importance in the culture. The people of the 'states have been strongly influenced by an era where it was often impossible to put the protection of self, and the judging of offenders, to the hands of the state. Laws are influenced by culture, and before death penalty is removed, the 'states have to face an era of changing force greater than what is in their past, similar to what the widespread destruction of the wars was for us Eurofags.

>>1529436
I... I think I killed the thread with a wall of text crit. ;__;