/jp/ - Otaku Culture

This is the first time i've actually seen those words put to use, and it is absolutely retarded looking.

these things are best left ignored

I made an attempt to unfuck all of the ze/hir/etc bullshit, but I am not fixing all the poor grammar.

I don't even play Len'en.

What the fuck am I reading, why is every pronoun "they" or "their"?

>>15017495
It was worse before; all the pronouns were "hir" or "ze". The creator of Len'en hasn't actually specified any of the characters' genders so there's no calling them an official "she" or "he".

>>15017384
i can't wait for your evil transphobic edit to be undone

>>15017522
Now check any other page in the wiki.

I don't think that you can unfuck them all.

Jesus christ.
I know Zun is arguably worse with his art, but her smile is hilariously bad.

Wait, is this like a rip off of touhou of something

>>15018651
I did what I could.

Is is worse than autism, it is their official guideline.

http://lenen.shoutwiki.com/wiki/Len'en_Wiki:Guidelines#Gender_Neutrality

Only the wiki goes those lengths to use those stupid pronouns. I even talked with the Wiki's owner and he himself hates using them. The translations all use "they" instead of autistic pronouns and most people in the fanbase just call everyone a girl, so yeah... See >>15017327

>>15020562

http://lenen.shoutwiki.com/wiki/JynX
What the fuck am I reading?

Jesus fucking christ has the tumblr/sjw crowd flooded the "touhou" universe too? Is it coming for the touhouwiki?

>>15016868
I don't understand. Is he multiple people in the same body or what?

>>15020898
Since Japanese doesn't have gender specific pronouns unless you imply them in speech, it's normal for you to think that. It's not that Touhou's being flooded by Tumblr/SJW's, it's Len'en's community being flooded instead. Unfortunately we have to deal with these shits.

>>15020911
Yes, they probably suffer from aggravated schizophrenia and they cannot cope with it. I can't believe the wiki doesn't mention this. Ugh, those ablelist shitlords.

Len'en community is a bit heretical but the games and their story is great - imagine Reimu, Marisa and Yuyuko going around not giving a fuck if Yuyuko eats someone, just beating people up for fun.

Also, Len'en 4 has branching paths and random events, as well as 12 playable characters

>>15020911
No, we just don't really know if he's a guy or a girl, but SJW's just love abusing that shit to their favor, what can you do? If you read his interview on the same wiki, you'll find he's not anything like that.

>>15020937
Cut half of it, it's the Tumblr/SJW cancer. The other half is pretty much the same as the good Touhou half. Still, Len'en 4 will be about 7 times bigger than a standard Touhou game and it's being done in about the same time ZUN takes to make a game, with random stages being the norm and Gradius-style upgrades also being a thing for begginers. Len'en's a good series, but you have to ignore a big part of the fanbase, like Touhou.

Gender identity folks poison everything they touch

>>15020957
This.

>>15020957
I don't actually understanding why I'm supposed to be angry at these people.

We have them at my university. I ignore them the same way I ignore the Jehova's Witnesses when they go door to door

>>15021035

I wouldn't say anger, but a distaste for them.

Xthems are know generally causing divides between communities over bike-shedding issues and Xtheres utter wanton towards unpersons that fail to comply with the new party line.

>>15021074
This. If they didn't do this, I'd just ignore them and be on my way, but these people actively ruin communities.

>>15021074
>bike-shedding issues and Xtheres utter wanton towards unpersons that fail to comply with the new party line
My understanding from people I know who were involved in politics is that most of these people are easily ignored and have little actual impact unless people cave to their demands

>>15021110
>these people actively ruin communities.
Fair enough, but isn't that true for politics in general? I've never seen a non-political online community that didn't turn to shit when politics was introduced.

Either way, I'm not sure we've all seen the same things, but I don't really see anything terribly different here from what normally happens to fan communities in the long run. I do admit that the pedantry of gender identity politics makes self-immolation a lot easier, though even with this I haven't seen anything come close to the utter shitstorms that are fan translator circles.

>>15021156
>Fair enough, but isn't that true for politics in general?
True... And I still agree with what you previously said, only if people cave in to demands. Thankfully, the two people translating the (ungodly huge) dialog of these games use actual pronouns so I could care less.
In any case, Len'en 4's going to be a huge game and hopefully it'll come out soon already. JynX even opened part of the game so people could just edit the dialog like .txt files, I don't get why people dislike him like that.

>>15021156
This thread is giving me all sorts of flashbacks to flame wars of yore:
>Libertarians literally suing each other over shitposts
>RL drama crashing this FOSS project (with no survivors)
>White supremacists attempting to purge white separatists in a months-long civil war spanning dozens of threads
>Occupy losers hijacking websites over doctrinal disputes
>Cyberstalking 14 year-olds who dare to suggest that meat isn't murder
>Sunni v. shia, hindu v. muslim, saudi v. iranian, etc.

I think the lesson to be learned here is that politics in general should be kept away from otaku interests

>>15021186
You're right really. Just go with what JynX says: "Use your imagination." He doesn't give a damn and neither to I honestly. Being a Touhou parody (admittedly a rip-off), I just assume everyone's a girl and be done with it.

>>15021192
I'm seriously considering downloading a massive backlog of anime and dojinsoft and quitting the internet until the Americans finish up with their election. This political autism is getting too hard to ignore...

I don't remember people being this autisticly anal-pained over an election since 2004, the flame wars are even spilling over into my favourite porn imageboards.

Sorry for venting. I just want things to go back to normal and politics free.

>>15021302
Eh, don't really blame you for venting, that shit really is getting ridiculous already. Hope you have fun with the games at least.

>>15021186
You're giving them too much credit by labeling it as politics.

Besides, I still think JynX does a good job with the remakes and such. They're far from perfect, but nobody else makes anything as close.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YqPljXAVxYc

>>15020898
fixed

>>15022559
>http://lenen.shoutwiki.com/wiki/JynX
>It's actually fixed.
Thank you. I just hope they stay that way.

>>15022575

>>15022762
I knew it wasn't gonna last... Sigh...

Today, /jp/ did their best.
But it wasn't good enough.

>>15022575

That discussion page is cracking me up.
JynX probably doesn't give a fuck about being "gendered" and just wrote Gender: Private without giving it a second thought, but people are actually debating it.
This is the worst.

>>15022836
>http://lenen.shoutwiki.com/wiki/Talk:JynX
>The other flawed assumption you made is that the genitals of a person are proof of their gender. If you found out what I had in my pants, and you just assumed what my gender was based on that, as a transgender person I would be incensed. Transgender people do exist in Japan, as we exist everywhere, so I don't think that's a valid assumption for you to make, and it's definitely not enough to overturn the gender neutrality policy of this wiki.

Good lord.
Nuke this entire wiki, start anew.

>>15016868
WHAT'S WRONG WITH YOUR FACE

>>15022846
I fucking wish I could. I really do, but there's nothing else other than this, so RIP.

>>15022836
This was pretty much what happened. He then decided to go hide it to go side-by-side with his creations.

>>15022861

What a day to be alive.

I learn about the existence of a Len'en wiki and at the same time I learn that it's a tumblr festival of degenerate queer butt baby breeders.

>>15023051
Is that really a thing? Christ.
At least this kind of shit doesn't spread into the games.

>>15023061
These gender neutrality advocates run the sole western wiki we have once again proving how much the western world is filled with mentally ill individuals.
What a fucking farce.

>>15023133
It's just retardedness at this point. Japan doesn't have these people's mentality on that subject, so thank fucking god for that. At least the games themselves aren't tainted. I just wish the west could just stop being retarded.

>>15022809
If /jp/ did their best they would just create a new wiki that is a photocopy of all of the existing articles but with the autism removed.

Instead we're just going to sit around and kvetch about SJWs some more.

>>15023185
Of course. Besides, most people around here don't even like Len'en, so I'm pretty sure nobody would commit to that.

>>15022861
That face made me feel uneasy.

>>15023133
Without mentally ill individuals there would be no one to post on /jp/.

>>15023224
So in the end, the side with the most autism wins...

>>15023268
As always.

>>15023358
But I thought /jp/ was the autism capital of the Internet....

>>15023416
not since the /a/v/b/ raids

>>15023422
oh well

>>15023227
Some of them are hilarious though.

Hey kid. Do you want to go to Mugenri and have a magical adventure?

>>15025504
>have a magical adventure.
>with a war of giant proportions happening between Youkai and Humans for no reason.
No thanks. Even though Humans aren't cattle like they are in Touhou, doesn't mean your life would be easier.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UWHHLJsIeM4
At least the game has an Ultra-Patched Extra stage, to save the trouble of someone making it. He also adds Easy Extra Stages for casuals. It's pretty good honestly.

>>15025504
>some place with gensokyo levels of fuckery
maybe

>>15026192
At least Mugenri's Capital is a "safer" and more advanced version of the Human Village in Gensokyo. At least twice in size, though that's all we know. There's still assassins around, so don't go around starting conspiracies agaisnt the Emperor or you'll basically have to run away like Fumi's gang did.

日本語で書いてもおk？

>>15026554
> Emperor
You mean Empress

>>15037154
Knock yourself out.

>>15040237
In the original text, they refer them as "Emperor", so I suspect they're using it as a neutral term. Then again, the left side's final boss will probably be Taira no Masakado's daughter, which will be a girl regardless.