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Do you guys know if there are any subcultures in Japan that are obsessed with American culture and wanting to move/learn English? Basically just like /jp/ but the opposite.

>> No.14169364
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>>14169305
>American culture

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>>14169364
BURGERS TRUCKS AND GUNS

>> No.14169527

>>14169305
Modern American culture strikes me as particularly degenerate. As for the underlying broadly Western culture, Japan has already borrowed greatly from it, to the point that modern Japan cannot really be compared to the Japan of old.

>> No.14169534 [DELETED] 

>>14169305
Yeah, but it's more broad and general on the other side.
There aremore "honorable" western subcultures in the east, but subcultures in the west focused on eastern hobbies and culture is essentially "/jp/"

>> No.14169536 [DELETED] 

>>14169527
There is a reason "pre-war Japan" and "post-war Japan" is such a separating distinction

>> No.14169558

>>14169536
I can relate to that. We (Germany) lost that war as well...

>> No.14169591

>>14169558
No this shit again.

>> No.14169602

>>14169591
Don't worry, I'm not a Nazi. I'm just a weeaboo.

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>>14169305
Yeah, hanging out with one is like hanging out with someone from an mtv reality show through a japanese filter except they never turn it off.

>> No.14169729

I have a Japanese guy obsessed with American culture on my Facebook, but I wouldn't say he's like opposite /jp/. He mostly tries to poorly use American slang, which is kind of funny since he doesn't really have a good grasp of English despite only ever posting in English. He did once message me to tell me that he's started watching porn and to tell me all about his porn preferences for some reason.

>> No.14169733

>>14169729
Through dick unity.

>> No.14169765

>>14169558
Are you that guy who posts on /pol/ about how Anglos need to be exterminated?

>> No.14169822

>>14169765
No, though it tells you all you need to know about the popularity of German nationalism (which is the worst thing ever; don't do it). Let's keep that out of /jp/

>> No.14169883

>>14169305
theres an autistic Japanese dude at UCSD that is obsessed with indian culture, surprisingly enough.

he goes to all the indian events and club stuff, and he just stands around pretending to be indian or something

>> No.14169913

>>14169305
Who's this cum plum?

>> No.14170070

>>14169913
ur mum.

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Anyone know any good sites to get penpals?

>> No.14170200

>>14170182
/int/ has a general up about penpals, it's called interpals or something like that.

>> No.14171331

>>14169305
That girl is qt as fug. Sauce?

>> No.14171762

>>14169305
Not american "culture" but a lot of Japanese like the French culture.

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REVERSE WEEABOOS

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>>14171927
the king of reverse weeaboos

>> No.14171943

>>14171762
Lie, no one likes France.

No one.

>> No.14171971

>>14171762
>the French ```````````culture'''''''''''''''''''''''''.
Fixed for accuracy.

>> No.14171999

>>14171762
Funny, because French are the biggest weaboos.

>> No.14172137

>>14169305
Donna is best companion.

>> No.14172253

>>14169729
>on my Facebook

the fuck?

>> No.14172273

>>14169729
>my Facebook
Fuck you Zuckerberg

>> No.14172360

>>14169305
KILL WHITEY!!

>> No.14173020
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Howdy /jp/, my name is Kenichi Smith.

I'm a 27 year old Japanese Toonaholic (Cartoon fan for you foreigners). I draw cartoons and comics on my tablet, and spend my days perfecting my art and playing superior American games. (Halo, Gears of War, Call of Duty)

I train with my 1911 every day, this superior weapon can shoot straight through steel because it kicks ass, and is vastly superior to any other weapon on earth. I earned my gun license two years ago, and I have been getting better every day.

I speak English fluently, both the Midwestern and the East Coast accents, and I write fluently as well. I know everything about American history and their Constitution, which I follow 100%

When I get my American visa, I am moving to New York to attend a prestigious High School to learn more about their magnificent culture. I hope I can become an animator for Nickelodeon or a game designer!

I own several cowboy outfits, which I wear around town. I want to get used to wearing them before I move to America, so I can fit in easier. I keep cool to my elders and seniors and speak English as often as I can, but rarely does anyone manage to respond.

Wish me luck in America!

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>>311042176
Gomenasai, my name is Stef-Sama.

I’m a 27 year old Dutch Otaku (Anime fan for you gaijins). I mocap for a Japanese game company and spend my days perfecting my art and playing superior Japanese games. (MGS, Animal Crossing, Pokemon series)

I train with my Katana every day, this superior weapon can cut clean through steel because it is folded over a thousand times, and is vastly superior to any other weapon on earth. I earned my sword license two years ago, and I have been getting better every day.

I speak Japanese fluently, both Kanji and the Osaka dialect, and I write fluently as well. I know everything about Japanese history and their bushido code, which I follow 100%. This is of course thanks to my BA in Japanese from University of Leiden (where I did study abroad to Japan) and my master's degree also in Japanese from Tokyo university.

I own several kimonos, which I wear around town. I want to get used to wearing them before I move to Japan, so I can fit in easier. I bow to my elders and seniors and speak Japanese as often as I can, but rarely does anyone manage to respond.

Wish me luck in Japan!

>> No.14173441

>>14169305
They are called Westaboos. Like Weeaboos, but for American (usually celebrity) culture. Their English tends to be just as bad as weeaboo Japanese.

>> No.14173539 [DELETED] 

>>14170182
Lang-8. Mostly とんでもないnormalfags, but I've met some cool people too. Don't be afraid to just PM people random bullshit and see if they respond.

>> No.14176586

>>14173051
>Dutch

>> No.14177903

I don't know about "obsessed," but a good amount of my coworkers are Japanese people that came to the US. Some liked music, sports, some to escape Japan's uptight-ness, and some just had a general "I wanna go abroad" urge for no particular reason.

>> No.14177924

>>14169305
I used to watch Friends and Pretty Little Liars with my sisters' roommate (stayed with them for the holidays).
Also, watched Pitch Perfect 2 with her once, and sometimes I would be in the lounge room on my laptop and she'd come in and watch it again but just skip to the singing parts. She did it several times, and sometimes I would catch her doing in when going for breakfast/toilet/etc. Pretty funny.

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>>14169305
There's a Japanese woman in I sometimes talk to about Skyrim modding. She's obsessed with Western FPS's and her mods are dedicated to porting over gun and tactical armor models from FPS's to Skyrim.
She also considers RWBY to be the second coming of Christ which is very strange to me since she lives in the land of anime.
The world is a very strange place

>> No.14178108

>>14169305
http://may.2chan.net/b/res/360896652.htm

>> No.14178112

>>14178108
The barfing pony would make a great reaction image if it were legal to use anywhere it mattered.

>> No.14178127

>>14178112
>if it were legal
Is it too late for me to delete the browser history or does the FBI already know?

>> No.14178132

>>14178127
Only if you live in Oregon, Hiroyuki became a sheriff there. If you live elsewhere there's still time. Quickly, before it's too late.

>> No.14178929

>>14170070
damn, mum got good. and chinesey

>> No.14179165

>>14169305
Does anyone know WHY the fuck do the Japanese always pose like for a photo when you are clearly using a camera to film them (the kind of camera that is used for shooting movies).

Lioke, are they retarded or something?

>> No.14180189

>>14169305
Yes. Tons of Japanese girls. It's how people here magically end up with Japanese girlfriends.

>> No.14180333

I live in western Canada near the rockies where culture mostly revolves around mountain related outdoor activities. There are always many Japanese tourists at the ski resorts. This is different of course than a culture obsession but I want to mention them anyway. They are my favorite country of tourist on the slopes. Almost all are intermediate level skiers with good manners about right of way. Always have top of the line gear. Never a nuisance like some brands of tourist (americans, the french).

>> No.14180806

>>14180189
>people here
Did you actually imply that there are people on /jp/ who have touched a girl, much less have a girlfriend?

I really hate this new meme.

>> No.14181078

>>14180806
A lot of people on /jp/ have been to Japan. I just got back from a 2.5 month trip, myself.

>> No.14181143

>>14181078
Okay and?

Do I need to post some videos of /jp/sies going to Japan to crush this fantasy where you pretend the Japanese girls liked you?

Because I bookmarked a few vids.

>> No.14181172

>>14181143
A lot of people on /jp/ have no people skills and can't actually speak Japanese, but pretend they do. There's a small subsection of people who have no problem getting with Japanese chicks. You can do anything if you put your mind to it.

>> No.14181235

People have been shilling for their favorite pointless Japan blog for a while now, so I'm gonna get in on the action and throw up one I think /jp/ might actually like (despite the fact that the writer fucks around basically nonstop.)

http://japaneseruleof7.com/sumo-learn-japanese/
- tl;dr: most people who learned japanese in a year are full of shit

http://japaneseruleof7.com/dating-japanese-women/
- tl;dr: japan is a total shitfest

>> No.14181255

>>14181235
You can get good at something if you put in the time, is what it comes down to. Most people don't truly put in the effort. It took me 2-3 years before I got really good at picking up Japanese girls, and even longer to be proficient at conversational Japanese to pick up said girls.

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>>14169305
>american culture
>doctor who

>> No.14181412

>>14181235
>Ken Seeroi

Literally Ken-sama's blog?

>> No.14181477

>>14181235
Those blogs are triggering and all lies.

It doesn't add up, I read on /jp/ that we're all successful computer programmers with hot and cute Japanese girlfriends.

>> No.14181501

>>14181477
>I read on /jp/ that we're all successful computer programmers
I don't know why you keep forcing this shit whenever someone mentions he might not be a fucking English teacher. The vast majority of /jp/ is losers sitting in their basements or working godawful minimum wage jobs, but that doesn't mean every last person here is.

Even the author of the blog is not a fucking English teacher, he's a regular salaried worker.

>> No.14181540

>>14181501
Why so salty?

>> No.14181545

>>14181540
Because it's like the tenth time I've seen you whine about it and it'll only make people less likely to read the links.

>> No.14181563

>>14181545
Ok mister programmer.

>> No.14181663

>>14181501
actually i am a successful computer programmer.

i just blow my salary on jp goods and still live in my mom's basement.

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>>14181663
>implying

>> No.14182362

>>14181675
Unreadable as it is, why do I have this feeling it might actually compile and run? I'm no coder.

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>>14182362
It does. See http://www.ioccc.org/2013/misaka/hint.html

The key here being that a lot of the whitespace doesn't do anything (well, in this case it does, because he hid a second programming language in the whitespace, so it's actually really hard). People spend a lot of time studying how to make things like that.

>> No.14182464

>>14173020
I was waiting for this, thank you for your hard work.

>> No.14182513

>>14182396
Wow so epic and cool!!

>> No.14182521

Does this answer your question?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_Qe4AZRkFYE

>> No.14182528

>>14182521
No? They're about as obsessed with American culture as the Japanese are obsessed with Indian culture for liking curry so much.

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Koreans are the biggest Westaboos on the planet. They should be killed and their bodies burnt. I hope Japan does not end up like them.

>> No.14182549

>>14182513
XDDDDDDDDDDDDD

>> No.14182568

>>14182547
I have a korean chick as friend in deviantart and I can confirm the westaboo part.
The race war thing only applies to famous and powerful persons, as Korea is a hugely despot country and common persons actually know moderation.
I know because my friend said to me she wasn't the average qt korean gal so she faces pretty hardcore bullying which goes as far as police saying she deserves harassing for not being a literal whore.

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>>14182568
>having a Korean friend

>> No.14182721

>>14182568
>beliebing it's a chick
It's a radyboy.

>> No.14182796

>>14182721
>It's a radyboy.
Maybe a impersonator because the info is accurate, but that? nah.

>>14182575
W-what are you implying?

>> No.14182807

>>14182796
He's implying you should kill yourself for jerking off to a Korean ladyboy.

>> No.14182823

>>14182807
Oy man, I don't have interest for any korean gal/boy when japs and chinese are superior.
Moreso when she said she wasn't an average "pretty" korean.

We are friends because we have similar vidya tastes.

>> No.14182839

>>14182823
>vidya tastes
Confirmed ladyboy so hard.

DO you seriosuly think that a real woman would ever like your shitty dudebro Metal Gear Solids, /v/ crossie?

>> No.14182859

>>14182839
>/jp/ is dudebro now
Whoa.

And I said I know the gookette in Deviantart so it's not about hipster edgy games.
Are you sure you aren't just jealous about how I may have a female asian friend?

>> No.14182884

>>14182859
1) Who are you quoting, you filthy crossie?
2) You are not /jp/.
3) As if I were ever jealous of your Korean ladyboy.

>> No.14182976

>>14182568
Have you actually been to Korea? The anti-Japanese sentiment is strong there.

>> No.14183044

>>14169305
American culture is so ubiquitous that I doubt most people would even think to be particularly into it. Everybody watches American moves, listens to American music, eats American food, and learns English.

Then again there is this kind of thing, which I guess counts.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_iC4IsKdHXU

>> No.14183121

>>14182976
Of course he hasn't. He is a /v/ shitlord who thinks he's in a LDR with his Korean ladyboyfriend.

>> No.14183609

>>14182884
Jaypee is a dead board that moves at the speed of molasses. If you aren't a crossie, you're a mega autist who needs to be euthanized.

>> No.14183719

>>14182884
jaypee is a board which accepts shitposting but at least try not to look like a sore thumb, anon.

>> No.14183740

>>14182976
Never have been there but they sure do show they dislike Japan.
Extra points if they are westaboos like mine.

>> No.14183760

>>14183609
>>14183719
>/v/ crossies defending a /v/ crossie

Go back to >>>/pol/.

>> No.14183767

>>14183609
Just fuck off. A board being slow means it gets less shit per hour.
Slow boards are preferable to the oceans of shit that are the main boards. Also don't forget that there are a few /jp/-alternatives if you really need to waste your time shitposting on imageboards 24/7 instead of playing eroge or doing other Japanese related stuff. And if you're one of the few people here who still can't read moon then get off your lazy ass. Tons of untranslated gems are waiting.

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>>14169305
>American culture
>Dr Who

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>>14183780
Nobody cares.

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>>14183044
>that fucking video

and here i thought i'd seen everything

>> No.14184097

>>14169305
Yes, it's called Japanese culture in general. In the early 1900s they started importing and watching western movies and books and wearing western clothes. This is partially why Japanese imperialists took over the country, to drive out the massive wave of foreign influence and reclaim their culture.

After they were beaten in WW2, America rewrote their constitution to a democratic one and made them adopt a western-style public schooling system.

Under the guidance and protection of America they've been importing new tech and culture ever since. China is basically Japan without the western influence.

There are a few niche subcultures who are especially focused on firearms and following the latest western music releases. Other than that, eating western foods or indulging in western entertainment is not some special thing.

>> No.14184121

>>14183780
Who's this qt? I need to fap to her doujins.

>> No.14184136

>>14183780
Confusing "western" and "american" is a common enough mistake

>> No.14184235

>>14171932
He's a military otaku though. That's a whole different class. It's actually pretty cool, and is totally understandable considering Japan's attitude towards guns and militaria in general.

>> No.14184444

>>14184121
Please reply to me friends!

She looks like from the "ore no I want to fuck my older brother" anime series.

>> No.14184973

>>14182521
So the normies in Japan are just as bad as the normies on 4chan.

>> No.14187346 [DELETED] 

KUSO THREAD

DEL

DEL

DEL

DEL

DEL

REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

*autistic crossie from Reddit/SRS throwing a fit over this /pol/ thread that isn't feminist enough*

>> No.14187380

>>14169305
Thats my ex!! hahaha

>> No.14187449

>>14187346
>implying SRS know what del means

>> No.14187594

>>14187380
ahhahahah really? :DDD

>> No.14187625

>>14187380
yep, Her name is Ikumi, i was uploaded the pic a couple of months ago here on /jp/ in an Japanese-girl thread. Can't believe someone saved it

>> No.14187651

>>14187625
what does her femmepenis inside your boypuss' feel like??

>> No.14187666

>>14187625
Dude are you serious.
Please give me her contact info.
I live in japan I can finish what you started.
mutexunlock@gmail.com

>> No.14187676

>>14187666
sorry, but forget it mate. She was the best girl i ever had.

>> No.14187685

>>14187676
Damn brah, that sucks the biggie.

>> No.14187688

>>14187676
bet you didn't even have sex with her, she only let you suck her penis

>> No.14187690
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>>14187685
really sorry, but here's another pic for you

>> No.14187737

>>14187690
bet she only let you suck the cat's penis

>> No.14187751

>>14187651
>>14187688
>>14187737
is someone here jealous?

>> No.14187761

>>14187751
No, I don't like penises tbh

I'd rather pound her pussy

>> No.14187768

>>14187761

What's with your obsession for penises anyway? not every asian girl has a dick mate, but sounds like you slept during anatomy lessons and are obsiouly a wizard.

>> No.14187886

>>14187768
look man, just because you googled some pics of a korean ladyboy from devianart does not mean you're not a wizardly virgin yourself

you're even more pathetic than the guy who says he's a six figures earning computer programmer in japan, but something tells me you're one and the same, you cuck

>> No.14187891

>>14187751
tbh I'm a bit jealous of >>14187688's dubs

>> No.14187959

>>14187886
>googled some pics of a korean ladyboy from devianart

how retarded are you? and what kind of provement do you need? i have a shitton of pics of us in London and Japan.

>> No.14188023

>>14187959
Just post a pic of yourself holding a shoe in your left hand and a toothbrush in your right hand and I'll believe you mate.

>> No.14188035

>>14187959
Post them now.
I really want to fap to your GF.

>> No.14188133

>>14181172
The last time I put my mind to it I got beaten up and arrested.

>> No.14188152

>>14188133
Well maybe you shouldn't try to rape girls anymore (talking to a girl if you're not attractive enough is rape enough).

>> No.14188370

>>14184444
http://oreimo.wikia.com/wiki/Hinata_Gokou
only because quads

>> No.14188385

>>14188370
Ah dammit, it's her. I think I already masturbated to the only doujin she has on HappyKoala. (The one where she wears a swimsuit and is sexed anally.)

She is so much cuter than all the other girls from I want to fuck my older brother.

>> No.14188625

>>14188385
>happy koala

Nani??

>> No.14189038

>>14188625
sad panda

>> No.14189305

>>14189038
Sadpanda is the worst hentai repository of all time.
Haven't you realised gamification and the secret club mentality are both bad things?

>> No.14189318

>>14189305
It's failure-tolerant, doesn't lose content, and is a consolidated source of uploads.

>> No.14189335

>>14189318
>liking consolidation
Ahhh, such a fascist.
Ever heard of what the web was like before capitalists invaded?
People hosted things on their own servers, for fun.

>> No.14189345

>>14189335
>liking consolidation
It means that if you upload something that everybody will know it exists and be able to download it immediately.

>People hosted things on their own servers, for fun.
Your ethical principles are fantastic and all, but try making a practical argument.

>> No.14189392

>>14189345
Manually distributed data is more likely to survive evil admins and abuse of mod power.

>> No.14189434

nearly ever jap girl i talk to is obsessed with 1d, justin beiber, disney movies etc.

>> No.14193482

>>14189434
so you're saying they're 3DPD sluts just like western girls?

>> No.14194716

>>14169364
Yes, the most successful, most popular and most influential culture all around the world. It dwarfs all other cultures into minuscule tiny bits for people to enjoy besides the 90% of American culture they live.

>> No.14194727

>>14187676
That's a damn shame anon, she looks really comfy

>> No.14194772

KILL WHITEY!!

>> No.14194905 [DELETED] 

>>14194772
Finally some real /jp/ (feminist) post!

>> No.14194913

>>14169305
Actually most Japanese want to be American or live in America, if.you have blonde hair and blue eyes over there you are seen as a god pretty much

>> No.14194935

>>14194913
I seriously hope you don't actually believe this

>> No.14194942

>>14194935
Lived in Japan for 20 yrs kid, so yea I do actually believe it, I've seen it first hand faggot. Move out of your basement, then talk.

>> No.14194949

>>14194942
>Live in my mom's basement for 20 yrs old kid, so yea I do actually believe it, I've read about it on 4chan faggot. Move to your own mom's basement, then talk.

Are you serious? You seriously don't understand what reality is. Even blonde haired blue eyed white people who look like 10/10 pale in comparison to the treatment that 10/10 Japanese men get in Japanese society, you naive weaboo permavirgin loser.

>> No.14194956

>>14194949
You're seriously sad that it's true, aren't you. It's OK kid,

>> No.14194967

>>14194956
Well of course I am sad, any deebly concergned citizen would be sad about young white males (manchilds) leeching off their parents' well past their 20s and living in their basements. What's worse is, that as Oregon clearly shows, male virgins eventually end up shooting actual good people because of their permanent virginity. You need to be stopped.

>> No.14194976

>>14194967
It's OK child be mad I've been somewhere you will never go fanboi

>> No.14195078

>>14194976
Duh, of course no one else will ever go down to your mom's basement, you turned it into a (literally) toxic (literal) shit-hole.

>> No.14195132

I am a Westerner and I am foffended at the cultural appropriatino of these fucking chinks of our culutre

PEARL HARLBOR #2 when?? time to bomb them again

>> No.14195355

>>14187959
Why isn't this turbo cuck posting more pics of his smoking hot exGF

>> No.14195367

>>14195355
Sorry, I ran out of pics that this girl made publicly available on her Facebook :D

>> No.14195612

Bumping

>> No.14195966

>>14195612
Un-bumping

>> No.14196154

>>14182568
Once have a female korean classmate. My classmates keep connecting me to her but i was paranoid since i talk more about japan than south korea.

>> No.14196166

>>14182547
Yankii rap should happen in Japan so "Korean" rap will just be ubiquitous.

>> No.14196208

>>14171762
>>14171943
I live in japan and can confirm he's right
japanese think french things are cool in the same weird, fantasized way americans think japanese things are cool, though I don't think it's quite as extreme. I haven't seen evidence of some kind of "frenchaboo" or anything like that
I could totally see japanese getting tattoos of french words they don't actually know the meanings of, though.

>> No.14196242

>>14196208
Japanese MV's are mostly influence by the European aesthetic. J-Idol wouldn't exist if not for the song Cherze's d'idol. J-Idol is also Eurobeat meets SAW.

>> No.14196249

>>14196242
yeah, I'm only aware of the phenomenon and don't really know the history of the thing
seems kind of interesting now that ya mention it

>> No.14197648

>>14196242
>r the song Cherze's d'idol
What the fuck is this "song"? Not even google can find it.

>> No.14198053

>>14187886
>He thinks he's still talking to me.
Geez man, I left the thread for like three days because shitposts kill my joy but you just keep going.
Even /jp/sies can get to know legit chicks now that anybody can play pretend in the internet and women are specially needy of attention.

>> No.14198859

>>14198053
Korean ladyboy lover confirming I was right by taking it so personally.

>> No.14199595

>>14197648
Search the Sylvie Vartan song. I made a mistake in the spelling.

>> No.14199613

>>14198859
Not a chance, boy.
Looking at you trying to save face from looking like a penis-obsessed shitposter isla relieving.

>> No.14203513 [DELETED] 

>>14199613
I am an actual girl, not a boy, or a ladyboy like your Korean "girlfriend".

>> No.14206053

>>14187690
OP here. Share some more pix pls.

>> No.14206099

>>14182547
Why are koreans so disgusting

>> No.14206166

>>14206099
They live in a matriarchal society. They basically have a Ministry of Womyn's Studies which was, among other things, responsible for the policy that makes anonymity on the Internet impossible in Worst Korea (yes, South Korea) and ties all your actions to your citizen/ID card. This is also coincidentally why PC games have such big foothold there compared to widespread console games popularity in the surrounding countries - because stuff like PSN/XBox Live whatever (I don't really know and or care about these things) couldn't exist there without major changes for Koreans only. The Korean people are also incredibly shallow and materialistic and the #1 plastic surgery using country in the entire world, by a fucking mile ahead of everyone else.

Like some would probably think that the North Korea Best Korea thing is just a meme, but North Korea is literally the better country of the two and I hope Kim will nuke his southern brothers and wipe them off the face of Earth.

>> No.14206255

One of my Japanese pen pals is obsessed with western culture. He told me his dream is to have a big yard, a bunch of dogs and watch western movies and eat popcorn in his western style house.

>> No.14207820

>>14206255
I'm not sure what's less believable - you having a 'pen pal' or them wanting that.

>> No.14207829

>>14207820
There are shittons of weebs who want nothing more than to watch anime on the television while sitting at a kotatsu in a tiny shitty Tokyo apartment, could be worse.

>> No.14207839
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>>14169364
This is American culture.

American culture is excessively large food, gigantic vehicles, guns, an obsession with jets and bombs, and an insatiable love of war and destruction.

It can be hard to see American culture because American culture is still a living culture that is more interested in the future than in the past, unlike European cultures that are mostly just built around past accomplishments and will never regain their former imperial glory.

>> No.14208012

>>14171927
This literally never happens. Too bad the same can't be said abot americans.

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>>14195367
not something a girl would post on fb
what now faggot?

>> No.14208070

>>14182547
Wants to be black, is racist against blacks. Shits fuck up.

>> No.14208100

>>14208054
Are you crazy, basement dwelling weeb? There's nothing special about that picture, congrats on finding another pic to post of this Koran ladyboy, instead of actually posting proof like I asked you to, you spineless pussy.

>> No.14211413

>>14208100
>still not delivered
Guess I won.

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This guy is a brain surgeon who's father designed aircraft for the IJAAF. Specifically the Tachikawa Ki-94 I and II prototypes. He's translated all of his father's design documents and blueprints into English and seems to be a westaboo in other fields as well.

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>>14169305
...
are you serious?
There are SO MANY people obsessed with American Culture we even have a fucking board for it
/aco/
American
Culture
Obsession

>> No.14211813

>>14208054
Now, you post more.

>> No.14211837

>>14208054
Would sniff armpit

>> No.14211872

>>14208100
Tell me one reason why i have to proove you anything.
The only thing you can do is insult people and call them a weeb. That's really poor.
Think of her as a Korean ladyboy, why should i give a damn fuck?
That's the last post from me here, maybe would have posted more of her, but you faggot fucked it up. Congratulations!

>> No.14211875

>>14211872
Nah don't be a homo anon. I believed you the entire time, who cares what that faggot thinks.

Please keep posting her. She's comfy

>> No.14212073

>>14211872
Yeah man, I believed you too. Keep rolling with the pics, she's your ex girlfriend what have you got to lose?

>> No.14212150

>>14211872
>Tell me one reason why i have to proove you anything.
Well of course you don't have to prove it, but that means you're admitting that you're a faker who's illegally posting some (maybe)chicks pics on social media.

>>14211875
>>14212073
Hey, stop pressuring him faggot, do you know how hard it was to find a (maybe)girl almost kind of looked like the first two ones in the first place? How is he going to do this again?

>> No.14212205

>>14196208
>I could totally see japanese getting tattoos
Are you serious?
>words they don't actually know the meanings of
Thanks to kanji, elevens are really obsessive about meanings of words, especially with names.

>> No.14212353

I am married to a beautiful Japanese women hahaha losers.

>> No.14212852

>>14212353
i beleive you tbh. post pic

>> No.14213675

>>14169305
I know a guy on FB. I added him because we regularly played COD4 sometimes. He was pretty good with a shotgun. I found out he's into American hip hop culture, posts stuff about Wiz Khalifa and all these guys. Dresses like an American hip hop guy. He's married with 2 kids and seems to be an awesome dad.

It seems most Japanese who are into 'American culture' are affiliated with hip hop or black music genres. Some girls are really into it and even try to imitate their idols, basically trying to look 'black'.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_Qe4AZRkFYE

>> No.14213762

>>14212353
Never forget where you came from, Anon. Never forget.

>> No.14213851

>>14169305
wine? but, she is underage!

>> No.14213888

We mostly talk skype but pen pals are best for physically writing when you're trying to learn another language.

>> No.14214576

>>14213851
She's 38 dude

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For some reason, seems there is a community that has strong interest in the Mexican cholo culture.

https://youtu.be/3AfN50T9xZQ

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>> No.14214920

>>14171932
But that guy is cool. A reverse weeaboo needs to be pathetic.

>> No.14215138

>>14214595
Weird, they actually look Mexican besides the one in blue.

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/jp/ meet up

>> No.14215321

>>14214595
>>14214599
>>14214608
Stuff like this makes me kind of glad that Japan will be nuked to utter destruction by the Chinese dragon by the end of this century.

>> No.14215499

>>14169482
Oh hey. I'm in this!
Fond memories

>> No.14215624

>>14215499
Me on the far right.

>> No.14217484

>>14215624
Meiya #1 NA

>> No.14222725

>>14217484
who?

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>>14213675
>It seems most Japanese who are into 'American culture' are affiliated with hip hop or black music genres

True. I know this girl and other ones in Osaka who are totally like that.

>> No.14225890

>>14222961
Proof that Japanese women are bigger sluts that white American women.

Just shaking my head over here, to be honest, family.

>> No.14225900

>>14225890
good thing they cuter though right fam right broh

>> No.14226029

>>14225900
Not really.

>> No.14226206

I think you mean gaijin hunters? Altough they just want gaijin dick.

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>>14169305
>Do you guys know if there are any subcultures in Japan that are obsessed with American culture and wanting to move/learn English?
Soon both countries will have a lot in common.
PS Don't you mean Spanish.

>> No.14226238

>>14226206
Ryan Boundless leave

>> No.14226689

>>14226206

Recently, there's a middle-aged ugly woman coming to the Hub in Shinsaibashi every single day.
Usually she is sitting there alone, always on her phone.
She's trying to hit on almost every avarage looking white guy there.
The real creepy thing is that she probably got something like tourette, she makes weird gestures with her arm and occasionaly talks to herself. Every few minutes, when the bar is crowded, she gets up and takes a pic of everyone. I avoid going to that Hub alone for a beer since she tried to hit on me like 2-3 times...

>> No.14226820

>>14226689
>sauce: my favorite gaijin JP blogger's blog

Why did you remove this line?

>> No.14230275

>>14169364
Love this meme, pretending that the most powerful and most influential culture in the world is something to be laughed at and also WHO ARE YOU QUOTING?

>> No.14230319

Yes, they obsess over Twillight and Call of Duty, all that shit you see normies obsess over here the westaboos obsess over in Japan.

>> No.14232570

>>14230275
>not knowing what greentexting is

>> No.14232936

>>14230275
you mean influential capital.

That's literally it, we couldn't care less about your culture but the world wants your money.

>> No.14232985

>>14232936
Have you ever heard the idiom can't see the wood for the trees?


You are so immersed in American culture that you've become so used to it that it has become a normal occurrence to you and you don't even realize it.

>> No.14232988

>>14232936
Butthurt Russcuck detected. Go back to eating snow, Vatnik.

>>14232985
Thank you, couldn't have said this better myself.

>> No.14233063

>>14232985
>not the other way round

HISTORY STARTED IN 1776 DAMMIT

>> No.14233153

>>14232985
Calm down America. No one wants you to start another war over absolutely nothing.

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>>14183044
When your culture becomes so ever present that you forget its there, that truly goes to show how influential you really are. I always laugh at people who say shit like

>american culture

I am pretty sure you enjoy their movies, food styles, television, attire, ease of communication because everyone speaks English and how you can openly hate them because you are all so butthurt your insignificant European nation keeps trying to relive its glory days - while simultaneously being dragged down by the EU or constant immigration.

In a few hundred years, people will look back at America being its era's Rome - while they will still read about Europe's apex in the 19th century

I am Canadian

>> No.14233361

>>14226820
my own expirience, i dont live here but i am in Osaka 3-4 times a year.
Just because you can't make it here doesn't mean others can't as well.

>> No.14233394

Of course, gun otaku/cowboy otaku.

Hell, I don't even want to be japanese.

>> No.14233516

>>14233294
Proof that Canadians are a no-country with no culture of their own.

Basically the 51st state.

>> No.14233567

It's base jake Gyllenhaal popular in Japan? What actor is hot there?

>> No.14233606

>>14233567
all white actors are equally considered hot there, since white people look all the same tbh if they have the same hair & skin color

>> No.14236372

>>14233606
white actor here, can confirm

I keep getting confused for tom cruise and get easily laid with tons of qt Japanese pussy who actually let me impregnate them with no ties afterwards!!

my seed is all over Japan!!!

>> No.14236384

>>14236372
Man, they're short enough as it is.

>> No.14236475

>>14236384
f-fuck you!! heightism!! aaaa!!!

>> No.14237500

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IhnUgAaea4M

>> No.14237573

>>14237500
dog bless amerika

>> No.14240208

>>14237573
Seconded.

>> No.14241743

>>14169305
loving american culture doesnt necessarily translate into wanting to fuck whitey, or even wanting to be around them

its a lot like white people who listen to rap

>> No.14241788

>>14241743
??

but white ppl who listen to rap want the black muh dik (if female)

>> No.14241792

>>14241788
thats actually a good analogy since the coal burners are deviants and the japs who date whites are the deviants too

well deviants and fatties

>> No.14241797

>>14241792
except not really because some of them simply do it because they know they're gonna get superior whitey genetic material out of it

coal burners know they're gonna go to hell and they're dooming their children with the one drop rule

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>>14169305
>Assuming everybody in 4chin is american
Just go chill with the black dudes at roppingi after the last train.

>> No.14242790

>>14242760
I don't think this is good advice...

>> No.14242828

>>14242790
I am shitposting. Of course this is not a good advice.
Also, why would anyone be interested in your dumb american culture.
You already send so many of your weebs that don't even make an effort to speak japanese in japan, do you expect japanese to shill your culture?

>> No.14244232

>>14226689
Hubs a shit hole

>> No.14246555

>>14242760
mother fucking kek.

>> No.14246847

>>14242760
normieeeeeees reeeeee xDDDDDDDD

>> No.14247034

>>14179165
It makes good screenshots to post on /jp/.

>> No.14247126

>>14207839
I'm hungry...

>> No.14247501

>>14247034
I don't understand?

>> No.14248360

>>14233294
>I am pretty sure you enjoy their movies
I personally don't but it's true that they are omnipresent. Blame their massive budgets.

>food styles

But it's ALL copied from Europe

>television

Hard to say, some channels more than others, but it's not as much as you seem to think

>attire

Not really

>ease of communication because everyone speaks English

English is not American

>how you can openly hate them because you are all so butthurt your insignificant European nation keeps trying to relive its glory days

I dislike American culture just as much as mine..

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>>14248360
Someones tsun for murica

>> No.14248511

>>14248360
Seriously, I agree with this guy here.

The only thing America has are movies and TV shows. Everything else is just pretty much copied from Europe.

>> No.14248538

>>14248511
>>14248360

almost every single thing of modern life comes from america

god damn electricity is american culture
cell phones, gps, airplanes, satellites, etc are american culture

i really feel bad for you if youre too stupid to understand that youre so utterly consumed by american culture that you cant even notice it

hate the US if you want but dont make up lies and live in the dark. plenty of the stuff the US exports is bad, but to say it doesnt export its culture to every corner of the world is top level retardation and ignorance

>> No.14248548

>>14248360
I'm with you man, also burgers forget they try to shove their revolution up to your ass every three seconds like yupoor does with its old days.

I do love some of their meat techniques though.

>> No.14248568

>>14248538
oh i also forgot to add...the internet

im sure the irony of shitposting on the internet about how the US doesnt effect the world is lost on you idiots though

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>>14248568
>>14248538

>> No.14248629

>>14169305
yeah its called being Japanese.

they crave the glorious BURGER and dream of the chance to move here and become cowboys and astronauts.

>> No.14248850

>>14248360
>I personally don't but it's true that they are omnipresent. Blame their massive budgets.
The budgets are only there because they were so popular in the first place. People didn't just start dropping millions on movies for no reason.

>But it's ALL copied from Europe
Guess we're comparing continents now. Mexican food isn't directly copied from Europe. Unless there was no collaboration on food within Europe ever...?

>Hard to say, some channels more than others, but it's not as much as you seem to think
dunno

>Not really
Agreed, unless you count all the people around the world that still dress like rappers from 2009, but this is /jp/ after all.

>English is not American
Yeah this is an awful point.

>I dislike American culture just as much as mine..
Well then you my friend, are just a hater.

>> No.14248911

>>14248538
Lmao hahahahahahahaha

>> No.14248929

>>14248911
was that your attempt at a counter argument? im not even stating opinion, its just fact

is this how europoors argue?

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>>14214595
>>14214599
>>14214608
this is the strangest thing i've seen all day

>> No.14250040

>>14169482
God I can't stand this weird 3D anime style.
TERA was alright but the models were terrifying, especially the Elins. I tried so hard to make a qt one but they all end up looking the same with the terrible customization.

Just look at this pack of feral beasts. Take a page from Aura Kingdom.

>> No.14250106

>>14248929
look mom i won an argument on the internet XD

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>>14248538
dude are you for real

>> No.14250195

>>14196208
>>14196208
I'm getting la bibliotheque tattooed soon

>> No.14250800

>>14169883
Are you indian?
Ive sort of noticed the populations in colleges of sd, unfortunatly i live near sdsu

>> No.14250895

http://www.2chan.net

>why can't you be more like your brother and have a cat board

>> No.14252691

>>14250895
what

>> No.14252810

>>14250895
dogs are better than cats

>> No.14252815

>>14248538
"History? Is it edible like the burg I have in my hands right now?" : the post

>> No.14254368

>>14169305
I've had friends like this in japan. They mostly want to know stuff about hip hop and street culture and think it's awesome, some wanted to try psychedelic drugs and weed that is really hard to get in Japan aparentlty. Stuff like that. One guy would ask me to explain every joke he heard on American tv, stuff like that

>> No.14254470

>>14169305
There is nothing American about Dr Who.

>> No.14254494

>>14194716
>Most influential culture

No. You currently have the most influential pop culture, but you can't compare the legacy of a 300 year old country to the marks that Rome, India or China left on the world.

>> No.14254513

>>14254368
>Japanese person asks you to explain "American joke"
Oh god kill me now

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>>14169305
probably out there somewhere, i dont think there's any "subculture" of them though

>> No.14254598

>>14252810
>said the faggot

>> No.14255041

>>14254558
>fukushima
Good luck.

>> No.14257171

>>14254558
>2015
>PEN PALS

Is he retarded?

Why doesn't he just go on the Internet?

Is Japanese Internet more closed off to the world than the Chinese??

>> No.14257185

>>14257171
>Is he retarded?
Some people prefer analog things. It's like asking why people still like physical books.

>> No.14257203

>>14257185
>paper
>analog thing

YOu are retarded.

>> No.14257220

>>14257203
All physical goods are analog when you get down to it.

>> No.14257224

>>14182976
Even in HS the Korean-Americans voiced their (possibly influenced by their parents) own dislike for the Japanese.

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"American culture" is too heterogeneous to be classified meaningfully as such.

>>14194716
Pop culture is not american culture. The corporations that purvey commercialized forms of entertainment are fundamentally multinational in scope. These individuals froth at the mouth at the sight of a bunch of cultureless second-worlders who can be sold the same vacuous materialistic orgy all over again.

>> No.14257324

>>14257306
More yuropoor damage control

>> No.14257333

>>14257306
don't think ur fancy smancy lingo can pursuade me, bub

>> No.14257346

>>14257324
I'm canadian, fuckface.

>>14257333
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sony
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comcast
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sony
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Time_Warner

Disdainful sage.

>> No.14257372

>>14257346
Ah, so that's even better. A jealous Canadian loser who achieved literally nothing and relies on America for everything. Pathetic.

>> No.14257385

>>14257346
>I'm canadian, fuckface.
Ah so you're suffering from a severe inferiority complex, i get it

>> No.14257414 [DELETED] 

>>14257346
I cannot imagine how American culture could possibly be heterogeneous when every child in the US goes through the same school curricula year after year where some form of a particular set of values gets instilled at very young ages, like every place else.

You're not suggesting that Japanese culture is a meaningless classification because it's heterogeneous in terms of differing dialects and preferences between Kansai, Kantou, some other smaller places like Kyusyu?

>> No.14257448

>>14257346
>be britbong
>watch canadian try to act superior to americans
>canadian ignorant of the fact the two countries have very similar origin stories and therefore if one has no culture, then the other cannot as well.
You cant make this shit up lol. He honestly thinks canada has culture. How deluded.

>> No.14257457

>>14257346
I cannot imagine how American culture could possibly be heterogeneous when every child in the US goes through the same school curricula year after year where some form of a particular set of values gets instilled at very young ages, like every place else.

You're not suggesting that Japanese culture is a meaningless classification because it's heterogeneous in terms of differing dialects and preferences between Kansai, Kantou, some other smaller places like Kyusyu, are you?

>> No.14257645

>>14257457
>through the same school curricula year after yea
We don't have a national curriculum; we can't even get all the states to agree on Common Core mathematics standards. Fucking math standards. Some kids grow up learning that America is the land of guns, freedom, and Jesus, and other kids grow up learning that America was founded on genocide.

>> No.14257756

>>14257346
You listed Sony twice and nobody is even trying to claim them as an American company (and they clearly aren't). Though it is worth mentioning that that their American division runs SME which is arguably the most culturally (not financially) important part of their business.

For the other 2 pointing out the fact that they actively attempt to influence does not mean that they don't succeed, I honestly don't get what the point of this post even was.

>> No.14258852

>>14257645
I'm still not convinced. If the kids are exposed to two distictively homogenous yet opposing ideologies at young ages, wouldn't that culture tend to be homogenous? Isn't it American culture to group themselves into red and blue states and espouse whatever the talking points they've heard before at the hodilay dinner tables? Compare that with any other culture where political talks are hardly ever had.

Besides that, don't kids solute to the flag at kindergardens or even grade schools? Sing the national antheme? Do some drawings for Halloween? Christams? Isn't American football something they watch and get encouraged to play? I can't get over the claim that American culture is meaningless because it's quite easily identifiable.

If the national culicula are non-existant, then what are those approx. 5000 people at the Department of Education doing? Nothing?

>> No.14260647

>>14258852
what the fuck are you even trying to say?

>> No.14260677

>>14258852
>If the kids are exposed to two distictively homogenous yet opposing ideologies at young ages
I said "some kids" and "other kids." They're not the same kids. A kid growing up in Seattle is going to have an entirely different set of cultural norms than a kid growing up in the American Deep South.

>Besides that, don't kids solute to the flag at kindergardens or even grade schools? Sing the national anthem?
Every nation teaches the kids the national anthem at some point. You might as well say that China and Japan have a "homogenous culture" because they celebrate Golden Week, learn Chinese characters, and eat rice.

>If the national culicula are non-existant, then what are those approx. 5000 people at the Department of Education doing? Nothing?
The website makes it look like they're mostly doing loans, grants, and research.

>> No.14261700

>>14257457
>culture
>school curricula
uhhh

>>14257756
The shit that gets pushed out of these companies isn't "culture" nor is it strictly american. Commercial rap and pop are being conflated for something much more complex.

Is america influential in the domain of copyright legislation, public infrastructure, civil liberties, what? I think a lot of people would stand to disagree.

>> No.14261825

>>14258852
>>14257457
Politics and educational institutions are culturally irrelevant for the individual in the existence of the internet.

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>>14169305
>Do you guys know if there are any subcultures in Japan that are obsessed with American culture and wanting to move/learn English?

more like Western culture. there's a group of Japanese girls obsessed with lolita dresses.

>> No.14264186

>>14261700
>The shit that gets pushed out of these companies isn't "culture" nor is it strictly american. Commercial rap and pop are being conflated for something much more complex.
Guess we're just gonna have to agree to disagree about whether pop culture is culture or not then. Also I never said they were strictly putting out American products. I don't think it's really that much more complex. If they someone from a foreign country they can profit off of, they rope them in. Americans are just easier to notice because we're right here. Therefore we end up getting a lot more push on a global scale from major American labels.

>Is america influential in the domain of copyright legislation, public infrastructure, civil liberties, what? I think a lot of people would stand to disagree.
Never argued any of this. I was just saying that our entertainment industry is one of the most, if not the most visible on the planet, and it should go without saying that visibility and influence go hand in hand no matter how many people think they've figured out the system

>> No.14264189

>>14261944
>implying lolita fashion is western culture

Maybe it is vaguely based on western dresses from hundreds of years ago, but now it's something distinctly Japanese.

>> No.14264256

Yes. American super hero/comic culture is now the equivilant of what anime was in america during the 80's. Same thing with french films niche interest equivilent of Japanese movie lovers in America.

Japan is pretty satisfied with its self taking interst in its self.

>> No.14264424

>>14264186
>our
This is the issue. There's nothing about these corporate entities that bind them to any specific country. Attributing their entertainment products to "american culture" is misguided.

>> No.14264860 [DELETED] 

>>14264424
The majority of the pop culture related products they push revolve around American values, humor, and what's popular among Americans. Either way, it shouldn't matter who I think American entertainment giants are pushing the most. Pop culture isn't even culture right?

>> No.14264891

>>14264424
The majority of the pop culture related products they push and attempt to expand globally revolve around American values, humor, and what's popular among Americans. It's why every random country has a million preconceived notions and opinions about us and barely any about other countries outside of their neighbors. Also why tons of 18-25 year olds around the world know who Beyonce is and nobody knows who the Japanese equivalent is, despite they're music industry having just as much value as ours.

Either way, it shouldn't matter who I think American entertainment giants are pushing the most. Pop culture isn't even culture right?

>> No.14264999

>>14264891
>Beyonce
Columbia -> SME -> Sony

Where does america fit into this?

>Pop culture isn't even culture right
The definition extends to include any mode of human expression or activity, shitty nigger pop falling into an infinitesimal subset of its related phenomena. People immediately relate art with the word culture and this dominates the discussion - that's the problem.

>> No.14265505

>>14264999
>Columbia -> SME -> Sony. Where does america fit into this?
You don't see how a black American girl born and raised in Houston Texas initially made famous in America from a genre of music created in America that was derived from another genre of music created in America that only became famous globally because of her fame in America has anything to do with America...because her label (who doesn't handle her publishing or management mind you) is owned by a company that's part of a company some Japanese dudes started based on distributing what's been made, rather than creating? The same company that said "shit, you Americans handle our global music stuff, you're better at it than we are"? Don't you think you're reaching a little bit...?

>The definition extends to include any mode of human expression or activity, shitty nigger pop falling into an infinitesimal subset of its related phenomena. People immediately relate art with the word culture and this dominates the discussion - that's the problem.
No, that is not the definition of "pop culture," that's the definition of "culture". I'm talking about pop culture, a subsection of overall culture. I can see why "pop culture" as an idea being nonexistent and just being "miscellaneous culture" would be convenient to your argument, since it would completely change my stance, but it's not. Is it the most important aspect of culture? Don't know, never claimed to. It's certainly one of the most noticeable though. And we're one of, if not the biggest players in that field.

>> No.14265700

>>14260677
If your claim is that the US consists of East Coast culture, West Coast culture, and Deep South, etc. and these are too heterogeneous to be altogether grouped into a single American culture, then by the same token, you'd also have to say that Japanese culture and Chinese culture are too heterogeneous to be meaningful because each consists of Kansai/Kantou and Northern/Southern China. But you're not claiming that, are you?

What I'm suggesting is that the US has some characters that are distinct from say Canadian, Australian, or British cultures among the West, thus the American culture is identifiable and meaningful. Flags, national anthems, sports, food, clothes, what people watch on TV, and what they teach in school are all such distinguishing characters that makes a culture a culture. You're not suggesting that such things do not exist for the US, are you?

>> No.14265836

most japs have white fever, kek

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While I wouldn't call it the equivalent of a weeb here, there is a fashion called amekaji in Japan that's supposed to be "American clothing"
There's also B-Gyaru that's supposed to be black and hiphop clothes.

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>>14265854
I'm actually surprised I never see tumblr SJWs call out b-gyaru

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So murrikan.

>> No.14266023

>>14265505
>has anything to do with America
The genre isn't definitively american and to attribute its existence to "american culture" is to grossly misunderstand the origins and life of music genres.

>a black American girl born and raised in Houston Texas
Gee, that sounds at extreme variance with my experiences while still being western myself. Almost as if people of wildly differing cultural origins can formally exist within the same country.

>Japanese dudes started based on distributing what's been made, rather than creating
In the domain of pop culture distribution is everything. Its ubiquity is not attributable to any inherent artistic or cerebral features of the work. The marketing budget and public visibility that comes with being associated with an industrial monolith ensures the heuristic driven success of any bodily discharge. Ease of consumability and banality are requisite for mass appeal; do you really think it matters which nigress is howling about fucking?

>No, that is not the definition of "pop culture,"
No shit. In exactly every response I've blessed you with the concept of culture encompassing more than the collective discharges of big media at any given time has eluded you. People "knowing" about some pop figure is not equivalent to being influential. Some shitmonkeys may tolerate it, but it's only because they are deprived of alternatives, historical perspective and have no way of assessing the artistic quality of something when there is no meaningful point of comparison. See the previous point.

>> No.14266040

>It's certainly one of the most noticeable though
Also the most trivial and irrelevant. Funny how that works out.

>> No.14266273

>The genre isn't definitively american and to attribute its existence to "american culture" is to grossly misunderstand the origins and life of music genres.
Please enlighten me then, on how a genre created and cultivated exclusively in America by black Americans for Americans (before making it to white areas then eventually the rest of the world) is not definitively American.

>Gee, that sounds at extreme variance with my experiences while still being western myself. Almost as if people of wildly differing cultural origins can formally exist within the same country.
What is the true origin of black American culture? Why didn't Africans create Jazz, R&B and Gospel first?

>In the domain of pop culture distribution is everything. Its ubiquity is not attributable to any inherent artistic or cerebral features of the work. The marketing budget and public visibility that comes with being associated with an industrial monolith ensures the heuristic driven success of any bodily discharge. Ease of consumability and banality are requisite for mass appeal;
I never said distribution wasn't a key factor of distributing pop culture, or that being easy to digest doesn't enable more people to digest your material.

>do you really think it matters which nigress is howling about fucking?
If it didn't they wouldn't funnel money to her to keep her "howling about fucking". They'd make a Japanese Beyonce and she'd be just as successful as the American one. It's a moot point either way. As I said, Sony's not her publisher, so they don't handle her global distribution, Warner Brothers does. Might help if you close the thesaurus and look up more info about the person you're arguing about.

>No shit. In exactly every response I've blessed you with the concept of culture encompassing more than the collective discharges of big media at any given time has eluded you.
and in exactly every response I've responded to that. Look, I'll do it again: I'm aware culture is more than pop culture. I'm not talking about the concept of culture a whole though. No matter how badly you want me to argue from that stance.

>People "knowing" about some pop figure is not equivalent to being influential. Some shitmonkeys may tolerate it, but it's only because they are deprived of alternatives, historical perspective and have no way of assessing the artistic quality of something when there is no meaningful point of comparison. See the previous point.
Obviously they aren't direct equivalents. But you're acting like he entire point of advertising isn't to try to influence. It's not a coincidence that you just so happen to know about something as soon as it's advertised to you. Unless you think advertising never works? Also we're not discussing artistic merits. Saying "Yeah but it influences STUPID people!" doesn't take away they fact that it influences people.

>Also the most trivial and irrelevant. Funny how that works out.
I repeat, "Don't know, never claimed to." Cool opinion though. Might be worth discussing with someone who's spent some time going into various aspects of culture, not just pop.

>> No.14266327

>>14171999
nah, the Mexicans are

>> No.14266419 [DELETED] 

>>14266273
>how a genre created and cultivated exclusively in America by black Americans for Americans is not definitively American
Because classifying music and, more broadly, culture as "american" is dumb. If I inform you that I like listening to american music, will you know that I'm referring specifically to acid house in that instance? Defining culture by geographic region is analogously hilarious.

I can't speak for the fidelity of beyonce's music to her genre of origin but I'm familiar with diluting effect commercialization has on genres. The corporate appropriation of hip hop culture in the 90s spawned

cheap simulacra that was hollow, plastinated vestige of the genre it contemptfully emulated. Which country does this mutilated facade belong to?

>Why didn't Africans create Jazz, R&B and Gospel first?
uhh are you turning this into a race = culture thing now?

>never said distribution wasn't a key factor of distributing pop culture
It's influential because its marketed everywhere by multinational corporations. It's their product, not an accurate reflection of the culture they choose to peddle.

>They'd make a Japanese Beyonce
There are numerous jap beyonces, they just take the form of idol groups and j-pop trios that are sold to their respectively disgusting market demos. Beyonce is sold to imbeciles who have conflated her cacophonous murmuring for "feminism" and "empowerment". Idols get sold to japanese men who want to fuck kids. Praise the free market.

>I'm not talking about the concept of culture a whole though. No matter how badly you want me to argue from that stance.
My intentions were made pretty clear in >>14257306 .

>it influences STUPID people!" doesn't take away they fact that it influences people
Sentient masses of heuristics aren't people, sorry.

>> No.14266433

Man, seeing the last 20+ posts makes me regret that I kept this thread alive on 9th pages for the last three weeks.

>> No.14266435

>>14266273
>how a genre created and cultivated exclusively in America by black Americans for Americans is not definitively American
Because classifying music and, more broadly, culture as "american" is dumb. If I inform you that I like listening to american music, will you know that I'm referring specifically to acid house in that instance? Defining culture by geographic region is analogously hilarious.

I can't speak for the fidelity of beyonce's music to her genre of origin but I'm familiar with diluting effect commercialization has on genres. The corporate appropriation of hip hop culture in the 90s spawned cheap simulacra that was hollow, plastinated vestige of the genre it contemptfully emulated. Which country does this mutilated facade belong to?

>Why didn't Africans create Jazz, R&B and Gospel first?
uhh are you turning this into a race = culture thing now?

>never said distribution wasn't a key factor of distributing pop culture
It's influential because its marketed everywhere by multinational corporations. It's their product, not an accurate reflection of the culture they choose to peddle.

>They'd make a Japanese Beyonce
There are numerous jap beyonces, they just take the form of idol groups and j-pop trios that are sold to their respectively disgusting market demos. Beyonce is sold to imbeciles who have conflated her cacophonous murmuring for "feminism" and "empowerment". Idols get sold to japanese men who want to fuck kids. Praise the free market.

>I'm not talking about the concept of culture a whole though. No matter how badly you want me to argue from that stance.
My intentions were made pretty clear in >>14257306 .

>it influences STUPID people!" doesn't take away they fact that it influences people
Sentient masses of heuristics aren't people, sorry.

>> No.14266679

Seeing a lot of stuff not addressed but lets finish this up i guess

>>14266435
>If I inform you that I like listening to american music, will you know that I'm referring specifically to acid house in that instance? Defining culture by geographic region is analogously hilarious.
No, because you didn't specify, but I won't count it out like I would Gagaku. If you said "I like electronic music" I also wouldn't instantly assume you were a brostep fan either. Your argument is based on backwards thinking.

>I can't speak for the fidelity of beyonce's music to her genre of origin but I'm familiar with diluting effect commercialization has on genres. The corporate appropriation of hip hop culture in the 90s spawned cheap simulacra that was hollow, plastinated vestige of the genre it contemptfully emulated. Which country does this mutilated facade belong to?
America. The benefit was mutual too so your Mars Volta lyrics are pretty exaggerated. Believe it or not, the vast majority of rappers are poor/lower middle black people that want to be rich and famous for doing what they always loved to do. The big labels just want to capitalize off of it. Much like any other business.

Also, does the massive market of hip hop mixtapes successful enough to have already hurled multiple people into the mainstream with no major label backing simply not exist to you?
That's still hip-hop too y'know.

>uhh are you turning this into a race = culture thing now?
Nope.

>There are numerous jap beyonces etc
Those are not Japanese Beyonces, those are Japanese Idols, part of Japanese idol culture(of which we have nothing similar to anywhere else). None of them earn as much (or probably charge as much per contract renewal) as her. If anyone with a good body and voice could do her job, why are they still paying the big bux? There's lots of people like that in Japan earning far less and that would be much easier to work with.

>My intentions were made pretty clear in >>14257306 .
and my problem with your "intentions" and my own thoughts in all of my posts.

>Sentient masses of heuristics aren't people, sorry.
lol. Guess we're done then. Enjoy your freedom from the Matrix. Hope you can become a billionaire in this ever so easily controlled system.

>> No.14267457

>>14266679
Responding to rhetorical questions literally and constant appeals to sales to defend mediocrity. Well done.

10/10 would fart on again

>> No.14267680

>>14173020
I live in a mountain town in the midwest and people do not have cowboy outfits all the time. athough we do have false frunt bulidings in the down town here and we have a law that if you bring your horse to school they have to feed it.

>> No.14268220

>>14265836
No they don't, you gaijin faggot. The amount of Japanese women who date white guys is the same as the amount of white women who date black guys in America. In both cases, I'd say it's 5% tops.

It only looks like they have "white fever" or that white women have "jungle fever" because they instantly stand out when you see a Japanese/white woman with a non-Japanese/black guy on the street.

This is coming from the legendary Ken-sama himself.
http://zoomingjapan.com/life-in-japan/dating-a-japanese-woman/

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>>14169305
>doctor who

Since when was this American culture?

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>>14268295
>wales

>> No.14269205

>>14169364
えと... is she naked in this picture?

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post freedom butts!!

>> No.14269768

>>14269329
Meh, a really sub-average drawing from technical perspective. Reminds me of Kaiga's earliest works.

>> No.14272658

kill all japan!

>> No.14272670

>>14254494
>putting the historical legacy of a country who shits in the streets on the reg with that of the great empires of Rome or China

>> No.14272673

>>14173020
I... this makes me feel good, even if it it's just copypasta

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