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SOOOooooooooo... I just watched a few u-15 idol videos, and I'd like to ask how is somebody actually supposed to enjoy these things?

Cute not pedo? Ok, well then why do they generally always show their underwears and/or dress up in revealing outfits and sometimes make erotic poses?
The main thing that comes to my mind is that since real child porn is illegal, they make the closest thing possible as a substitute.

Seems just really wrong to me. How does a parent go about letting their child sink so low?

Then again I don't get adult idol videos either so maybe I'm missing something...

>> No.14047689

You should go to America some times, there are women who let their children dress up for modeling contests when they haven't even reached two-digit age yet. All complete with make-up and slutty clothing. How is that not just as bad?

Or wait, did you just create this thread as your tyical pedo rant?

>> No.14047699

>>14047689
>How is that not just as bad?
I didn't say that it wasn't.

>Or wait, did you just create this thread as your tyical pedo rant?
I'd just want to understand. I really don't get the u-15 idol videos.

>> No.14047712 [DELETED] 

>>14047680
There are many things I don't. For instance, I've just seen a reportage that I'd sum up as "landwhales are attractive". Shit was all but horrifying, but I get that someone somewhere does consider them attractive, so I simply switched to another channel without asking myself "why". Live and let live, arguing about tastes is the least productive thing one could do.

>> No.14047715

>>14047680 (OP)
There are many things I don't get. For instance, I've just seen a reportage that I'd sum up as "landwhales are attractive". Shit was all but horrifying, but I get that someone somewhere does consider them attractive, so I simply switched to another channel without asking myself "why". Live and let live, arguing about tastes is the least productive thing one could do.

>> No.14047717

>>14047680
>how is somebody actually supposed to enjoy these things?

With some fava beans and a nice chianti.

>Ok, well then why do they generally always show their underwears and/or dress up in revealing outfits and sometimes make erotic poses?

Because eroticism can be cute?

>How does a parent go about letting their child sink so low?

Maybe they don't see it that way due to cultural differences? I seem to recall one particular nude photobook idol that staunchly defends her past career and sees nothing wrong with any of it. She turned out to be a pretty cool lady, so I imagine it did her no harm.

>maybe I'm missing something...

I heard what you seek is elsewhere. Good luck finding it.

>> No.14047740

Link to videos?

>> No.14047748

>>14047740

Shut up OP. We're not falling for it.

>> No.14047788

>>14047740
I just downloaded some random videos using perfect dark.

>>14047717
>>How does a parent go about letting their child sink so low?
Maybe they don't see it that way due to cultural differences?

I can't imagine how people in their school react...

>> No.14047839

>>14047680
go back into your containment thread

>> No.14047842

>>14047788
>I can't imagine how people in their school react...

Not at all I would imagine. Japan is pretty obsessive about keeping school life and private life extremely partitioned.

>> No.14047861

>>14047788
>I just downloaded some random videos using perfect dark.

You're pretty fucking weird. Normal people use youtube or nico.

>> No.14047984

yes, and?

taken from the archive: http://image.idoldvd.co.jp/sample/video/IMWL-001.mp4

>> No.14048015

>>14047748
I need the links so I can email the police department about them and get them taken down

>> No.14048106

>>14047680
Oh, come on, be honest with yourself. You liked them, didn't you? But you couldn't accept that because liking them would somehow mean that you're a pedo, and since society teached you that being a pedo is wrong, now you're here trying to convince everyone of "how could any non-pedo enjoy these pedo things, I'm not a pedo and I didn't like it because I'm not a pedo and I don't like pedo things"

Just accept it, you're going to be happier that way.

I'm not saying everyone who likes such things is a pedo, but this is the impression I'm getting from you, OP.

>>14047984
>1:53
muh DICK

>> No.14048121

>>14048015

They're too busy shooting unarmed black people to deal with takedown requests of legal content.

>> No.14048160

Who is your favorite U15 jp?

>> No.14048187

>>14048106
No no no no. I TRIED to enjoy them, but I couldn't. That's one of the reasons I made this thread.

I was simply just bored and felt sorry for the girls while I watched the videos.

>> No.14048271

>>14048187
>felt sorry for the girls while I watched the videos.

Why should you feel sorry for girls that actually want to be idols? If you must feel sorry for them, you should extend your feelings to Babymetal or any other idol act. It's a grueling job.

>> No.14048278

You can just imagine that it's a celebration of youth and call it a day.

>> No.14048295

>>14048271
>Why should you feel sorry for girls that actually want to be idols?
Based on the chinese cartoons that I've seen, girls don't want to be seen in their underwear.

>> No.14048299

>>14048187
See, I'm still getting those strong denial vibes out of you. "NONONONO I just CAN'T enjoy them!! And looks at these girls, they are doing pedo stuff (which I don't like because I'm not a pedo, by the way) how could they let such girls do all these allegedly-bad pedo stuff!?" I'm not trying to be insulting or anything, this is honestly how you're sounding, in my opinion. Just accept it, anon. Again, it will make you much happier. I don't want to be too pushy with this, though, so if you don't want to do it then I'm going to stop bothering you.

>> No.14048312

>>14048295

You're watching the wrong ones.

>> No.14048321

>>14048187
Implying they don't love their work
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ksydnlhcm3M

>> No.14048492

>>14047984
I can fap to this

>> No.14048554

>>14047680
It's supposed to be cute AND pedo. That blatant sexualization and the girl's seeming lack of knowledge about it is supposed to be a big appeal of it I think.

I generally don't like it though, U-15 or otherwise, because it never feels natural. All the smiles and stuff feel really fake and that turns me off.

>> No.14048803

>>14047680 (OP) (OP) (OP) (OP)
Different culture values are a shock aren't they

>> No.14048849

>>14048554
>All the smiles and stuff feel really fake and that turns me off

Thats the best part, the idea that really they know they're being exploited and they hate it, so good.

>> No.14048861

>>14048849
Well that's one way to look at it too. I just don't like that disconnect. I'd rather have the girl be into it. But then that's why I don't really like 3D porn at all because it's never convincing enough.

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They can be pretty weird I found the ones with corny BGM to be more funny than erotic.

>> No.14049073

>>14048160
momo shiina

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>>14047680
>SOOOooooooooo... I just watched a few u-15 idol videos, and I'd like to ask how is somebody actually supposed to enjoy these things?

Muhammad likes them.

>> No.14049533

>>14047984
This is legal?

>> No.14050020

>>14049533

Is there any fucking or nudity? If the answer is no, you should be able to solve this one on your own.

>> No.14050121

>>14050020
But featuring lolis in swimsuits is illegal for us to watch according to society and its morals.

>> No.14050142

>>14050121
Not in the real world, hon, go to the beach.

>> No.14050180

It's just another sexual preference. Around 14-15 is the sweet spot for me.
I guess I should be glad I get the averse reaction from prepubescent girls.

>> No.14050254

Parents have to pay off their debt to the yakuza somehow.

>> No.14050346

>>14047984
Is she still virgin?

>> No.14050357

There is nothing sexual about little girls in t-backs

>> No.14050360

14 and 15 are fine

>> No.14050397
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I ended up just following their social media, since the cute and cheerful updates make me happy but mixed with the work they do it's weirdly fascinating.

>> No.14051071

>>14050360
This exactly. 14+ is fine.
Everyting else is disgusting.

I always thought I might be a pedo. But everytime I went deep I found myself more disgusted then aroused. All I ever wanted to find are some cute 15/16 yo. But 90% of the content is 8 yo and below.

Its horrible and I find it disgusting.
Thats why I came to like the junior idol industry a bit. Many of the girls are atleast 13 and more.
Which is acceptable to me.

Its cute, innocent and fun. Not always sexual.

>> No.14051147

>>14047680
links?

>> No.14053952

This whole cultural relativism, man, this is wrong...

YES they DO want to fuck these children, that's why they mimic JAV.

and most people see it as wrong and forbidden, that's why they sell them at porn shops in the tolerance district, not in plain view

The only "exotic" thing here not found in glorious WEST is the fact that they sell a bunch of these videos with parents' content but guess what, that's due to capitalism, not some weird slanted-eye gene

People around the world like to fuck kids, it's only because of certain historic factors that the nip market found a niche in the tax-paying side of businesses, still they're obviously constrained by law and any kid fucker is going to get the same treatment as in any "western" society

>> No.14054314

>>14047984
Minus the pervy stuff this would be a great daughter simulator... but it's all pervy stuff.

>> No.14054360

>>14047984
Post more, you jerk.

>> No.14054370

>>14054314
That is the thing.
There are of course jr idol (and older) dvds that concentrate on the cute factor. Either daughter or girlfriend you'd just love to hold hands with.
I wish there was some way to know beforehand.

>> No.14055407

I'm not really into jr. idols, but there's something about this girl's ass https://www.youtube.com/v/LuI_o6kRfho

Youtube is full of filthy fucking pedos who make weird playlists of little girls though. I've only noticed this recently. I don't mean idol videos either, I mean like stalking kid's channels and making compilations of ones where they have downblouses or something. Youtube has some amazing lewd potential, but even for being on /jp/, when I want to, say, look at videos of worthless vlogger girls with their cleavage showing and nipples hard so you pay attention to them, the last thing I expect to see is a bunch of playlists of videos where kid vloggers have hard nipples.

In that context, I think jr. idol videos are basically harmless. Just a bunch of younger teens doing the same shit older teens do: Be completely worthless outside of their looks.
On one hand, from limited experience, there's some borderline shit like eating ice cream lewdly, but on the other hand they'd do the same thing on youtube or niconicodouga for free anyway if it got them views, so you can't fault the producers. Of course I'm only speaking of teens though. Knowing Japan, there's probably the same shit of little girls too.

Interesting note: There used to be this industry of "child modelling" in the west, that I presume was the same thing as jr. idols, but eventually got eradicated because of ties to cp or something. It makes me wonder if they ever make the jr. idols do more illicit things, in which case that industry would warrant being shut down too.

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>>14047680
>japs are pedos! thread number 56677453
Cool story
You can always watch quality american shows if you don't like that

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>>14055822
This isn't /r/japan. You can stop coming here if you don't think its weaboo enough for you.

>> No.14055887

>>14055822
Never have I seen something more disgusting.

Well, actually, I have, but I just wanted to say that for the show effect.

>> No.14057131

only white junior idols are good

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>>14055822
American woman makes trashy slut.
Japanese man makes ideal daughter.

>> No.14058202

/jp/ is there a nice way to reduce your libido

I'm tired of fapping to jr idols and loli manga all the time

I've honestly thinking of taking those hair growing pills with libido lowering side effects

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>>14049073
Why don't you tell her?
https://twitter.com/momoshiina

>> No.14060643

>>14047689
in US, those people are ridiculed and though of as disgusting; is it the same thing in Japan?

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>>14048160
anju kouzuki has the best overall look imo. but for a more mature tast asami kondou where its at.

>> No.14060776

what about the white ones, like sonya.m, bella.k, sharlotta.s, laura.b, etc etc? did you dig cd?

>> No.14060793

>>14060776
I don't know any of those names but I can't get into that. Maybe it's a culture thing, it's as if they are tainted in the west.

>>14060643
As I understand JR idols are frowned upon among the normies. But then again so is otaku type culture anyway.

>> No.14060825

>>14060776
not op but after Laura there is no depth other ones aren't as cute and for some reason it seems cheaper. since the producer and models are Japanese there seems to be a more comfortable atmosphere. they even interject scenes where the girls just do normal things like play or draw makes it seem more innocent.
Also since they girls aren't foreign i feel the standards are higher it less of a fetish which leads to generally cuter models.

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>>14060764
I can see Anju becoming their main girl. She doesn't seem likely to get uncomfortable and drop out.

>> No.14062058

>>14060764
I have always hated those dark-glossy lips.
Disgusting

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>>14048160
Momo all day every day.
There really is no competition that I am aware of.

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>>14048160
>Under 15
>Idol
I entered this thread to test my power level. It is insufficient. I bid you good day, /jp/

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>> No.14062966

>>14062895
Bye, friend. Don't forget to leave your reaction images at the doorstep the next time you come to /jp/.

>> No.14062985

>>14062966
I wouldn't leave any memes under 15 years old at /jp/'s doorstep :3

>> No.14062992

>>14060643
there are entire committees in both right and left wings trying to ban that shit. are you living under a rock?

>> No.14063001

>>14062992
I can understand wanting to ban toddlers in tiaras...but not the cute jidols

>> No.14063018

>>14047842

Yeah, it's not like Japan has the worlds highest rate of suicides due to school bullying or anything.

>> No.14063020

>>14063001
don't worry though, cxndydoll is still going strong

>> No.14063556

>>14063020
isnt candydoll purely western?

>> No.14063646

>>14063018
Russia is the suicide king.

>> No.14063752

>>14063646

Due to school bullying?

>> No.14064054

>>14063020
uh, anon, candydoll has been dead for months.

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>>14062992
If it ever gets bad, they should have the girls go and lobby to keep their jobs. Who can resist?

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>>14047984
Boo! Boring

>> No.14065497

>>14048187
As someone who loves lolicon hentai doujins, these videos are pretty disgusting. It's fine seeing cute girls do cute things, but when the camera is focusing on their chests/butts/crotches/feet, it's highly disturbing. It's probably a cultural thing that makes it legal, but it's pretty obvious the people who film this are trying to make the closest thing they legally can to child porn

>> No.14065707

>>14050397
Why is she so cute? I don't even have a twitter or follow any other u-15 stuff, but I still check her twitter all the time.

>> No.14065807

>>14048299
Not OP, and I can see the appeal of the videos, but I sort of agree with him. There's a small voice in the back of my head that makes me wonder about their situation. It makes me think if they're being exploited or doing something against their will or something they don't fully understand and might later regret.

Granted, I feel this way when looking at all such 3D stuff so I can only really feel ease of mind when looking at 2D stuff.

>> No.14065944

>>14047680
Still, that's a very dangerous 2D ass for a loli.

>> No.14066078

>>14063752
Only Japs are pussy enough to kill themselves from bullying instead of killing others because of bullying or being killed by bullying.

>> No.14066108

>>14065497
Focusing on a 15 year old's chests/butts/crotches/feet is not even in the same ballpark as cp. You realize you're comparing it to like an 8 year old being buttfucked or something, right?

>>14065807
>It makes me think if they're being exploited or doing something against their will or something they don't fully understand and might later regret.
That's pretty much the entirety of teen life. Although I'm only quoting this because it aggravates me when people act like only <18 people can be exploited or forced to do so against their will. The only difference between them and senior idols is that they won't be forced to pose naked or star in AV.

>> No.14066168

>>14047984
I don't see the appeal. It's crude and completely tasteless.

>> No.14066221

>>14066108
>delusional pedo #12341

>> No.14066227

>>14066108
>because it aggravates me when people act like only <18 people can be exploited or forced to do so against their will.
Well I very clearly stated in my post that I feel that way with all 3D stuff, child or adult alike.

>> No.14066299

>>14066078
Elliot Roger's ghost please.

>> No.14066303

jesus, /jp/ is full of lightweight new and youngfags.

>> No.14066327

>>14047680
no, it's pedo.

>> No.14066344

I'll never understand people like >>14066327 complaining about pedo on /jp/. No, even on 4chan.

Like seriously, where the hell do you think your are?

>> No.14066364

>>14066344
This is what 4chan has become, anon. Normalfags love this place now.

>> No.14066424

>>14066344
>>14066364
We've never embraced pedo. Not even back when altavista was popular, and people said warez, and 4chan wasn't even a thing.
Loli is tolerated because it's far removed and it doesn't physically affect people.
rl CP has never been accepted. 4ch has always been the normalfags place. that's always been tor's domain.

>> No.14066446

>>14066424
Welcome to 4chan, newfriend. Normally, it is not advised to begin posting on your first day. Browsing the site, or 'lurking moar', can give you insight as to how to best interact with the community.

>> No.14066459

>>14047680
It's not pedo because no one is fucking them

>> No.14066462

>>14066446
You make Aya fan look good. It's people like you that don't understand the difference between CP and loli that make 4chan so overrated. Go back to /b/ if you want to be so edgy.

>> No.14066467

>>14066424
>we
>>14066462
>edgy

fuck off you dumb queer.

>> No.14066471

>>14066424
/jp/ has generally disapproved of actual CP (even if there has usually been a minoritarian "children can consent" brigade running around) but U-15 is not CP.

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>>14066467
go back to >>>/b/, pedo.

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>>14065707
Ai is by far my favorite. Her streams are super cute.

>> No.14067196

>>14066513
I don't see her stream very often now but I managed to catch a few of her showroom streams a few months ago and they were super cute with her doing silly stuff and being herself. Much better than her actual idol videos which are the shitty generic pose in revealing clothing for 2hours and boring as hell.

>> No.14069056

>>14066424
>We've never embraced pedo.
Blew your cover right during your first sentence. That's kinda impressive actually!

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The directors behind this knows exactly what they are doing. "Oh this? It's just your standard massage-roller, please roll it all over your firm and petite body ohyesss"

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>>14069093
Now this is just vulgar.

>> No.14069134

>>14069093
There's nothing lewd about a little girl massaging herself, you big ol' perv.

>> No.14069286

>>14069093
del

>> No.14069565

>>14069093
Is this futanari fetish?

>> No.14069588

>>14047680
Shit's disgusting. and will probably not make the Olympics, japan will come out the other side of that a very different country legislation wise

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