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Last thread: >>13968081

Current LoV Event: Special Training
http://lord-of-valkyrie.wikia.com/wiki/Special_Training

Upcoming Aigis Event: Mystic Sorcery (Delayed, unknown when starting)
http://harem-battle.club/millennium-war-aigis/122-mystic-sorcery-guide.html

>Event Unit: Plat Mage Odette
http://millenniumwaraigis.wikia.com/wiki/Odette

Current Pero Pero Event: Pero Gamit
http://harem-battle.club/peropero-seduction/173-event-4-peropero-gambit.html

>Forums
http://harem-battle.club/

Lord of Valkyrie links:
>Game link:
http://www.nutaku.net/games/lord-of-valkyrie/play/
>English wiki:
http://lord-of-valkyrie.wikia.com/wiki/Lord_of_Valkyrie_Wiki
>Japanese wiki:
http://seesaawiki.jp/lordofwalkure/
>/jp/ player list:
http://pastebin.com/URgv8JPA
>Grind table by an anon:
http://imgur.com/y90G0cS
>Required strength for explorations and their rewards:
http://lord-of-valkyrie.wikia.com/wiki/Exploration
http://seesaawiki.jp/lordofwalkure/d/%c4%b4%ba%ba%c0%ef%c3%c4

Millennium War Aigis links:
>Game link
http://www.nutaku.net/games/millennium-war-aigis/play/
>Japanese ULMF thread:
http://www.ulmf.org/bbs/showthread.php?t=24452
>English ULMF thread:
http://www.ulmf.org/bbs/showthread.php?t=26860
>Japanese Wiki #1:
http://aigis.gcwiki.info/
>Japanese Wiki #2:
http://seesaawiki.jp/aigis/
>English Wiki
http://millenniumwaraigis.wikia.com/wiki/Millennium_War_Aigis_Wiki
>XP chart
http://i.imgur.com/okVV7hJ.png
>Vid anon's channel:
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCkAJz5hSVU_zaF0EqLiCKkg

Angelic Saga links:
>Game link:
http://www.nutaku.net/games/angelic-saga/play
>Japanese Wiki
http://angelicsaga.wiki.fc2.com/
>English Wiki
http://harem-battle.club/wiki/Angelic-Saga

Miscellaneous links:
>Staff Twitter:
https://twitter.com/nutakugames

>> No.13996650

from Nutaku on the Aigis situation:

"Hey everyone

The Japanese developers are trying to iron out a critical error that has appeared in both the English and Japanese versions of the game. They have prioritized fixing this bug above pushing new events on the English version. As always, as soon as there is any NEW information we will relay it.

We will ask that the developers update the "News" section of the game more regularly to inform those worried about the game. "

dead game

>> No.13996652

How does the gachas chances work in angelic saga?

If someone is foolish enough to get a 3 star rank on the gacha, are they guaranteed a certain number of SSRs? Or is it just an "increased chance"?

I've read people say you're guaranteed one, or just higher chance. So not sure if it's worth it at all.

>> No.13996658

Just went full on down syndrome retard in AS tournament.
Miscounted my mana and went from one final blow to win to complete loss.

>> No.13996677

>>13996532
They can do 2 sorts of tournament.

The current one + the "heartstone like" one.

The "heartsone like" one would give Gacha Points every game and premium tickets for the best players.

And the current one would give a shit ton of medals to get the cards we actually want (+ a bit of gacha points)

>> No.13996699

>>13996658
I've done that twice in a row now, anon. I need to slow down.

>> No.13996710

>>13996677
As much as I'd like to see it I think anything that in any way diminishes the value of collections while not bringing in revenue is unlikely to be implemented.

>> No.13996959

Got a Katie, Slyvie and a trash card up on the field and cleared the other guys side, it was amusing to watch him just Give Up after that.
For 1000 medals, which card is the best value? I'm thinking of getting a Priest Monica although I already have a Katie for some health regen, Nina and Mary seem alright but it's hard to ignore Anastasia.

>> No.13997044

>>13996652

Only applies to the whale x10 bulk roll option.

2* = 1 SR guaranteed, double SSR chances
3* = 2 SR guaranteed, triple SSR chances

>> No.13997095

This tourney really shows the lack of comeback cards. The vast majority of cards are 'win more' type of cards. Once you lost momentum its effectively game over.
If you don't have anything to play in the first 2 turns you might as well give up. With no mulligan either, its just a really bad card game. And the ero is so sparse it might as well not be part of the game at all.

>> No.13997098

>>13997044

No guaranteed SSR after spending $100+ is discouraging. I think I'll just stick with the occasional $10 rolls, if that.

I thank you for the clarification.

>> No.13997164

>>13997095
Eh, I just had a guy spam me with so many fucking trap cards and the like that it shut down my advantage. Guy was so fucking annoying it's unbelievable, worst duel experience I've had in any game I've ever played.

>> No.13997166

>>13996959
Let me put Monica this way: You're going to pay 11 mana. For that you get a 2100 atk and 2600 def body. You then put her in atk stance and skip your attack for her skill, so you can.... recover 600 LP. Let that sink in for a bit.
I guess she's ok if all you want is a high cost defensive cost card, but I think her ability will almost never be useful since you're skipping a pretty big attack for it.

Anastasia is superbly cute, so I could totally understand if you get her, but she costs 11 for the stats of a 10 cost card and needs you to have a board and pay mana on each attack for her to get the stats worthy of an 11 cost card. Might as well play Nina instead, she has the same passive atk value, but comes at 1 mana cheaper.

Mary and Nina both have solid stats for their cost. Mary's ability isn't particularly good, you would mostly play her for her body (pun intended). The ability is just icing on top.

Sylvie is a big fat drop with snowballing potential. Good if you want a big fat drop with snowballing potential.

My 2 cents on the strengths and weaknesses of the 1000 medal cards.

>> No.13997230

Aigis question if i CR a unit then evolve it will it keep the reduction?

>> No.13997241

>>13997230
Yes, it will keep the reduction, Skills that change during CC will be reset though.

>> No.13997248

>>13997241
Thanks anon

>> No.13997315

Is swedcarp gone from LoV? Do I need to remove him?

>> No.13997445

>>13997095

In an aggro deck, yeah if you lose momentum you're dead. Unless you happen to have Natalie and other Haste creatures with a recoverable board state. Face down 0v4 bodies though and it's over.

Actually, if you've somehow dragged it to late game (15+ mana) and you're looking at 0v2, it's possible to comeback by shoving a bunch of face downs: one is a big body, the rest are cheap chaffs. If the big body sticks, you can pump and debuff away to make it count. An unreliable and difficult way to comeback.

In a defensive deck, things look weird. When every body has fat Def, it becomes suicidal to throw something cheap at it to scout. Especially when traps that only trigger on big attackers exist.

Problem is, because of the grind requirement it's impossible to 'swap strategy' quickly - at least for this tournament. I think most of us took an aggro mentality and poured all our EXP into the appropriate cards. We can't react quickly to metagame revelations. May not be a 'problem' depending on perspective I guess.

>> No.13997653

My Sherry was at 3/5 skill level earlier, now I gotta choose another unit to skill up. Not a single rainbow fairy failed on her.

I want to improve my main team, yet the rarest stuff on there is Belinda and Spica, there is Saki, Anya and Themis who have rare abilitys but I don't really use them.

>> No.13997843

>>13997095
I don't think there's so much a lack of those cards than the fact that most of those cards are paywalled or just plain rare. How many people have a Shalif? Why is Reve an SR?

Making Oniwaka an event card was a step in the right direction, but she's not enough on her own.

>>13997166
Hm? Anastasia's stats are fine for an 11-cost. Her attack is effectively 2500-2900 maxed with her skill. I like her more than Sylvie, since she doesn't have the crippling weakness to Decree/Pumpkin Girl Marsha.

>> No.13997879

Thoughts on Brisa Marina? Just rolled her and she seems like a defensive focused Hotaru, just not sure what she's worth as a 7 drop. I'll probably add her to my deck, just curious if you guys have any practical experience with her.

>> No.13998070
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13998070

Didn't even know you could get more than 1 black fairy in a run of Tues H.

>> No.13998100

>>13998070
max drop for H is 1 gold + 2 plats + 2 blacks + 2 rainbows

but we all now how blessed you would need to be to get that

>> No.13998109

>>13997843
Her stats are the stats of a 10-cost, she has the exact same atk and def as Nina. Only during her skill does she get the atk value she actually deserves. Also, sure, it can go up to +500, but if you have 5 cards on your board, you won't have any problems killing enemy units anyway, so that case is a nice bonus, but not really relevant for evaluating the card. Usually, when it matters, it should be around +100 to +300.

There's a reason she was recently buffed a lot on the dmm version.

>> No.13998205

>>13996650
Critical error in both versions
DMM continues to get events as usual
Yeah, as much as I enjoy Aigis, it's pretty left to rot at this point...

>> No.13998226

>>13998205
Well, DMM Aigis doesn't really have much of an event right now. Simply a drop rate increase and a revival that was already up for the all-ages version. Which is partially due to TGS most likely, but still.

>> No.13998309

>>13998109
Fair point.

Out of all the starters though, I always thought she was the most well-rounded and really, only Sylvie can technically match her power.

Her DMM buffs are insane though.

>> No.13998505

Got Izumi from a silver attache, pretty cool. Too bad I don't have any SR wilds to level her.

>> No.13998528

>>13998505
grats and wouldn't worry too much about it. Shes not too bad to get and if you get copies they only lvl her, so if you have her at 100 its a wasted box.

>> No.13998811

hmmm is floor 100 highest atm or can you get higher? I'm just stuck on extra stage, if you can't then wonder why says that over 200 people have reached 200 floor.

>> No.13998820

>>13998811
100 is max for first half. I think it is a display error and all those people are on 100 instead.

>> No.13998829

>>13998820
Yeah I know its pose to be 100 for first half but was just check to see if there was a way to get past it or something. Could be an error. Thanks

>> No.13998960

"Oh, that Alpha normal has shown up top left twice. Should try clicking that instead of top middle, I guess."
The very next gacha roll? She's top middle.
Fuck me, I'll never get her at this rate.

>> No.13999100

For what it's worth AS tournaments seen to be pretty stable now, and are kinda fun.

>> No.13999162

>>13995770

I am winning a match due to board state against an AI whale player, I have 2 pumpkin girl marshas, a dodge, and prepared for battle on the board. AI lays down a fully leveled saber clone (the one that fully heals if you can't kill it) there is nothing in my deck that organically can actually kill it in one attack. I am fucked nothing in my hand until I remember Marsha's ability when it procs when he kill the first one, he lays down a minion in DEF mode. I then through the power of the cards pull my strongest card a lvl 60 Anastasia(not enough to kill her on the ATK but if saber clone attacks marsha... well) so I put her on DEF, Saber attacks my last Marsha and doesn't get set into defense mode

THANKS AS, thank you for ruining my game

>> No.13999170

>>13999162
You need five spare mana for Trick or Treat to proc. Not remembering that has cost me a few times, so it'd be good to remember that whenever you decide to place a Marsha down.

Shame we won't get the balance patch that reduces the cost of her skill anytime soon.

>> No.13999244 [DELETED] 

>tfw been playing nonstop since day one
>get beaten horribly by miyabis and other shit

Fuck gacha luck. 6 wins and 8 losses make me salty

>> No.13999265

>>13999170
I am a retard, I never knew it had a cost because I very rarely ever proc it in part due to its cost, I just see her ability as high attack at cost 5 and low lvl. Honestly I should delete my post due to the fact that I had no chance to win with that information coming to light; but I still want to express my frustration at Whales with max or near max lvl sabers, beats me with an empty board after dropping that fatty.

>> No.13999270

>tfw been playing nonstop since day one
>get beaten horribly by miyabis and other shit

Fuck gacha luck. 6 wins and 8 losses make me salty

My only SR besides ryumei is mizuki who has the fucking worst stats of all time for her cost and her ability is shit anyways

>> No.13999300
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13999300

So why don't you have the best girl yet?

>> No.13999339
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13999339

>>13999300
I just pulled her today.

Wasn't really planning on using her though, that skill cost is ridiculously expensive.

>> No.13999342

>>13999339
>Rank 2
are you a whale

>> No.13999361
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>>13999342
That was the $10 roll. I've never dropped $50/100 on the gacha and don't intend to with these rates.

Admittedly, I've been hella lucky for these gacha rank 1 11x rolls. This was last "rotation".

>> No.13999570

You know you fucking suck when you lose to someone who uses monocle and drop of life

>> No.13999608

>>13999339
Not the person you are responding to but that ability is pretty good, it is Weak in the knees that is 2 cost higher but by the time that you can even cast it the absolute minimum it procs for is 500 and that is if you go second and don't discard on her first attack turn. Looking at her, she absolutely destroys face down cards. She looks like she isn't very strong bodywise for 11 points though.

>> No.13999646

>>13999570
Keeping a drop of life in your deck can be useful if you need to keep ramming your weaker cards into things, but I just had a guy use one at 5800 life points

>> No.13999738

Opened a Silver case to return the favor, got another Izumi.
Her drop rate is pretty high, isn't it?

>> No.13999809

Is there anything special we can do with extra rare+ cards? Or are they just exp past 3. Would be pretty shitty to get a 4th SSR or SR copy.

>> No.13999823

>>13999809
Someone asked in the QA about that and the Nutaku rep said he'll ask the devs about it, but I wouldn't hold your breath.

>> No.13999829

Got Swindler again, woe is me.

>> No.13999865

Whoa, I won against number 1. Thank you, Onyx!

>> No.13999898
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13999898

I just had the longest battle in my life in Angelic Saga and I learned an important lesson. Never give in. This guy had his beserker up to super high attack and I had literally nothing. Spent my time stalling and eventually got a card to turn it into defense mode and defeat it with a hidden Miyabi.
He quickly defeated my Miyabi and continued to wail on me with his momentum but I chip damaged him to my level. If he was smart he would've just turtled up because I would've ran out of cards first, but I don't think he realized that.
Last turn he thought he had the win, knowing that my face up card didn't have enough attack to do damage but then I drew the book and took him out (screenshot shows me before I change the buffed left card into attack mode and attack his Framboise to win.)
Man, this feels pretty nice.

>> No.13999926

>>13999898
>unleveled Framboise
He deserved to lose honestly.

>> No.13999927

>>13999608
I've had plenty of times when it was only at 200, you're assuming you have a play every single turn and all of your previous plays already died, if you want to reach 5 cards in graveyard by turn 6.

>>13999570
>>13999646
>Someone attacks monocle and drop of life
>Another guy defends drop of life

What? If there's one card of the 2 that is somewhat playable, it's monocle. You can use it lategame if the 2 mana isn't important to your play, when attacking the enemy with your strongest card is too risky and you would have to sacrifice something else first just to be safe. Especially if you have additional options like book of awakening available. If a 2 mana card saves an 8 drop's life, it's worth it. I doubt I would ever play it over a levelled up card, but as long as we can only level a few cards and the alternative would be some level 20 meatshield, monocle is an ok choice imho.

>> No.13999974

>>13999926
Yeah, honestly the reason why it came so close is due to my poor luck the first half in drawing cards. By the time I had a high cost card, I was already too far behind.

>> No.13999977

Just had a great back and forth game with One, luckily pulled through in the end. Banish really turned the game around for me this time (returned a 2k card with 3 books of awakening on it) when the other matches I used it, it was mostly for stalling. Glad I switched out all my weaken for them.

>> No.13999987

>>13999927
I am wrong again, I was playing a tourney game and I was checking my graveyard to follow it, it looks that the dicarded cards do not enter the graveyard. My fatal assumption was that they enter the discard/graveyard like all other physical TCG game unless it is stated that the card discarded gets removed from game instead.

Also I am 2 strikes now but time to preempt a third: how do I get medals? I finally won a tourny game but all I got was normal gatcha.

>> No.13999999

>>13999977
So what's your number on the scoreboard?

>> No.14000004

>>13999999
shit get.

>> No.14000005
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>>13999999
i was going to give that get to cirno you omega nigger

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>>14000004
WOOOO
>>14000005
Good, Cirno is a BAKA.

>> No.14000018

>>13999999
Great get, and I was #23 last time I checked.

>> No.14000051

>>13999999
Noice

>> No.14000574

Rolled 35 SC, got Themis, Kyuteri, Figneria and Garett.
Still not even single black on this account, and I wanted at least Monica among featured drop enchancers, but princess, plat witch and aff item drop bonus are good enough, I guess.

>> No.14000718
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14000718

So the preview for Aigis Volume 3 is out now: http://ebcomic.com/clear/fcc/viewer/viewer.html?id=1446

Amazon: http://www.amazon.co.jp/exec/obidos/ASIN/4047306517/eb-novel-22

>> No.14000722
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>>14000718
Even the author knows the importance of Jerome. Hence why he's the only other guy on the Important/Significant Characters Page

>> No.14000726
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>>14000722
The lone illustration from the teaser, featuring Kaguya and her maid.

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>>14000726
The tileless cover

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>>14000738
Class: Royal Guard
Block #: 2; Cost: 21 (Mincost)
Skill: Magic Spear Gáe Bulg (魔槍ゲイボルグ):(Adds Magical Attack, and Instant Death Effect)

Info courtesy of Petite Soeur

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>>14000745
Sample Color Illustration of the Prince and Patel.

>> No.14000756
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>>14000750
Another Sample Image

>> No.14000758
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>>14000756
Final Sample Image

>> No.14000775

>>14000718
I'm seeing 3466 yen for three books, is that right? Man, I have the money but I don't have any credit cards and I don't want to borrow one because they'll see I bought Aigis books with it. But I really want them, what to do.

>> No.14000779

>>14000722
I wonder who else will show up

>> No.14000791

>>14000779
Eunice and Mortimer show up starting around Volume 1 IIRC. Also, Mortimer's a cook or something.

>> No.14000812

>>14000791
Yeah according to the few details I can decipher from the jp wikis

Mortimer's bandit group has Eunice, Bergan, and Cecily in it. He's apparently the only cook they have too. I expect Leanne to be moe

>> No.14000838

>>14000812
It's like the beginning of the game again! Of course, considering it's an adaptation of sorts.

>> No.14000909
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14000909

I finally did it guys. It was hard even with karma.

>> No.14000928

>>14000909
Congrats! You've only got 2 roadblocks left to clear, though they're challenge maps. War of Magic, and... it was Dwarfs and Giants 2 right?

>> No.14000931

>>14000928
Yeah gonna be a while waiting for events to mincost my calliopes :(

>> No.14000947

>>14000931
Do you have any other witches besides Calliope and Cloris?

>> No.14000950

>>14000947
Nope, I've started mid-way through echidna event so i don't have belinda and gacha hasn't been that nice to me.

>> No.14000952

>>14000950
Hope your luck is good with 2k, then. It's going to be a while before we finally get an event.

>> No.14000968

>>14000947
I doubt Cloris will help much since you need like what was it, 3 witches with at least 344atk that total 32 cost iirc? Haven't looked at the requirements in a while. But she hogs a lot of the UP needed for not much gain, I dunno how much the plat gacha witches can help though

>> No.14000975

>>14000968
Cloris can help provided you have Belinda or 2 50CC50 cost reduced Calliopes.

>> No.14000978

>>14000968
34 cost I think. On a possibly related note, in dmm, the +5 UP buff's cost is going to change to 1 SC.

>> No.14001110

How long is Summer Love/Special Training going to last? How about the Summer gacha? Is there going to be one more fire chance summer gatcha before it's over?

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14001173

They're finally giving us an event Feng Shui user and she's super cute too.
I'm guessing this is going to be an item collection event since it's been a little while since the last one.

>> No.14001194

>>14001173
How good are Feng Shui users anyway? Someone over at ulmf said it was a "cheat" class. Also, an item collection event huh? I'm a new user and I've save about 72 SC but I'm planning to use them for the premium gacha once I have a hundred. I wonder if she's worth refills though. People seem to be excited about her.

>> No.14001198

>>14001173
Fuck yes finally. And she's cute too.

>> No.14001207

>>14001194
I don't know how "cheat" they are, everyone wants one mainly because of the terrain and weather effect reduction.

>> No.14001213

>>14001173
> They're finally giving us an event Feng Shui user
Where did you get this info? I don't see any details on event on shirase or forums.

>> No.14001217

>>14001213
Okay, I guess I should've looked closer at event name. Still, says nothing about what she would look like.

>> No.14001224

>>14001217
Check the twitter

>> No.14001377

>>14001194
I don't think they're broken or anything if that's what he means by "cheat". But they do make some maps with weather effects or damage over time effects quite a bit easier.

As for item collection, at this point that's just a guess. For item collections in general I would always go for -2 cost so they have a normal unit cost and then go from there based on how useful they will be(or if I like the design).

>> No.14001435

>>14001173
She skinned a fox but she's fucking cute.
I was hoping the next item collection woould be a princess but I guess this is fine too.

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14001462

Okay, this is probably the most random thing I've seen all day.

Someone made a whole bunch of Aigis characters using the Soul Calibur V Character creator. Thinking about it, I'm surprised I haven't seen more.

http://www.pixiv.net/member_illust.php?mode=medium&illust_id=50262780

>> No.14001542

>>14000978
Holy shit that's incredibly good.

>> No.14001603

>>14001462
I'm not sure how that character creator works, but those look pretty bad.

I've always been disappointed that there's hardly any Aigis stuff for MMD. This Nanaly is really good though. http://www.nicovideo.jp/watch/sm26772802

>> No.14001614

>>14001603
If only there's a way to transfer Nutaku characters to dmm, I think my Nanaly is bored of Dragon Hunting and would actually want to fight in something that might be challenging.

>> No.14001631

Dear people playing AS tournament.

Do not give up when the game isn't going your way. It will just deny your opponent of gacha points.

>> No.14001634

>>14001603
>http://www.nicovideo.jp/watch/sm26772802
The character creator just adjusts things like clothes, hair, and facial features and accessories. There are a set number of body types and can't be changed to something other than those unfortunately.

>> No.14001763

>>14001631

Really? Few times when I gave up I still got some gacha points.

>> No.14001783

>>14001763
I think he is talking about how the amount you get depends on how much damage you do.
You always get something but if, for an example, your opponent has 4000 HP left and he gives up, you get gacha points for dealing 2000 DMG even if you could have finished him on that turn.

>> No.14001791

>>13999809

The JP wiki for the game has a section for "alchemy". From what I can decipher you basically put in a bunch of cards you don't need (like a bunch of Rs), and if successful you get a higher ranked card (HR) back.

>> No.14001993

>>14001763
Giving up hurts you more than just letting yourself lose.
Points:
Win: 2
Lose: 0
Give up: -2/fewer gacha P

>> No.14002108

>>14001993
You're only penalized for giving up early, but you can give up without any problems later on.

>> No.14002127

>>14001110

Check the announcements on the game's title page. No there won't be another fire spotlight for this event gacha. The gacha will be over on 8 Sept.

>> No.14002155

>>14001783

It's more than just damage. Based on early disconnects before any damage is dealt, I've gotten gacha points just for having spent mana. Q&A confirmed giving up caps how much you can get as opposed to naturally losing after a long game. This is separate to the tournament point penalties (giving up before turn 4 hurts).

>> No.14002165
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14002165

I wasn't going to win anyway but having this blocking the action for the rest of the match didn't help any.

>> No.14002415

so I got the golden druid (no Cellia again sigh)

What's she good for? Her dps seems really low, when are those healing trees useful?

>> No.14002510

>>14002415
They can sorta be used to heal a far off ranged unit sometimes, like maybe in a map with moderate poison, but their main use would be to soak up heavy shots like the spear-throwing crow tengu have. Still, she's not very good. Maybe if druids get awakening she'll get a use.

>> No.14003464

>>14001194
>>14001377
This. >>14001207
On maps that focus a ton of damage on a single unit (single-target bosses), they're pretty awful since they specialize in team healing.

But on certain maps (weather effects / terrain debuffs or lots of AoE) they can make really difficult maps a joke since their passive laughs at terrain/weather and their maximum HPS (Healing Per Second) is fucking insane due to healing multiple units at once.

Saria (Platinum Healer) who is usually considered one of the two best healers in the game thanks to her OP Skill (competing with Saint Iris for top spot) has a burst HPS of 434 with her skill up prior to any bonuses (including Prince).

Mia (Platinum Feng Shui User) calculated the same, has a burst HPS of 694.

Mar's (other Platinum Feng Shui User) maximum burst HPS with skill is harder to calculate, since her Skill makes her heals heal everyone in range, with no limit on the number of units healed. So if you're on a map that lets you bunch into one tiny ball of death, Mar can literally heal all of your units at once with her skill. But even if you assume she can somehow only reach 3 damaged units even with the range boost from her skill, 588 HPS. I believe the most units I've seen allowed on a map at once is 10, so using that for optimum HPS; 1960 HPS.

So quick tl;dr chart for lazy faggots.
Max burst HPS:
Saria 434 HPS
Mia 694 HPS
Mar 588-1960 HPS
It should be obvious from those numbers why some people consider Feng Shui Users "cheat". Their single-target healing is pretty shitty, but once you have two or more units taking more than chip damage their multi-target healing starts to take the lead.

>> No.14003757
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14003757

>enough SC for 6 rolls.
>decide to gamble
>3 silvers, a Black, a platnium, and another black.
>I already have the silvers, and the black.
At... atleast I can reduce summoner costs right? I mean, I don't really hate her, But if you are gonna give me two blacks, at least make one of them the bandit. the goddess hates me.

>> No.14003804

>>14003757
I'd level up all three summoners and use them as nukes.

>> No.14003859

>>14003757
I know how you feel. I got 2 blacks I didn't want too, one was a dupe Falune too.

>> No.14003884

>>14003757>>14003859
I hate you both.
Still zero blacks on all accounts, despite hundreds of spent SCs.

>> No.14004492
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14004492

Well I'll be. We actually have a Silver Rarity Princess showing up.

-Silver Princess Rosette (ロゼット) Added to Summoning.
+Skill: Sword of Damocles (ダモクレスの剣): All units' Attack and Defence raised for long duration, but after skill expires, all rarity silver units' current HP halved.

>> No.14004500

>>14004492
She's pretty cute, better than Themis, ahaha.

>> No.14004531

>>14004492
>All units' Attack and Defence raised for long duration
This is wrong, only silvers get boost.

>> No.14004558

>>14004492
>+Skill: Sword of Damocles (ダモクレスの剣): All units' Attack and Defence raised for long duration, but after skill expires, all rarity silver units' current HP halved.

Sounds totally worth it. I mean, who doesn't have a team of silvers?

Blacks are for squares.

>> No.14004571

>>14004558
Yeah, the devs will probably make her super easy to get for new players since any long time players won't have any use for her at all.

Unless they make silver/princess only maps or something

>> No.14004577

>>14004558
At least she's going to be very popular at 銀以下 videos.

>> No.14004584

>>14004558
Rosette coupled with those new cheaper buffs should give a silver team a fighting chance at harder maps.

>> No.14004660
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[ERROR]

New platinum thief with flash grenades.
I wonder if she has some item drop ability too

>> No.14004695

>>14004660
She should have the +3% drop rate and +20% increase to enemy attack/hp. The wiki lists it at a class trait.

>> No.14004722

>>14004660
Dat ass.

>> No.14004739

>>14004695
> The wiki lists it at a class trait.
Can you give link? I don't see thief class at http://aigis.gcwiki.info/?%B6%E1%C0%DC%B7%BF and bandits/rogues don't have drop traits.

>> No.14004772

>>14004739
Thieves are a ranged class. http://aigis.gcwiki.info/?%B1%F3%B5%F7%CE%A5%B7%BF

>> No.14004796

I started aigis a few days or so and I got stuck on Castle Retake. Is there a trick or do I just have to level my units? The only promoted ones I have are Soma and Phyllis, and everyone else is in varying states of not-very-leveled.

>> No.14004808

>>14004796
Look for videos on youtube, there was one with non-CC stock units to 1-star it.

>> No.14004815

When will the next even be for Aigies on Nutaku?

>> No.14004822

>>14004815
never, switch to dmm

>> No.14004827

>>14004822
Is DMM the Japanese one?

>> No.14004835

>>14004815
Well they took the time to update the news section. But they didn't actually tell us anything so maybe 2 weeks if you're lucky.

>> No.14004903

>>14004796
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZV7D0vEE9w0 1-star with only 1 CCed unit (archer)
http://www.nicovideo.jp/watch/sm24538504 3-star w/ no CCs, the princess could prob be replaced by a valk. Doesn't include the early black armor btw.

>> No.14004974

>>14004903
Holy shit that castle retake

>> No.14005144

>>14004835
Speaking of, so much for "cheating in a single player game doesn't hurt anyone"

Now everyone is suffering as a result.

>> No.14005162

>>14005144
Actually I'm playing fine, but I gave up on nutaku a while ago. Getting free crystals from it to boot.

>> No.14005184

>>14005162
I haven't given up on Nutaku totally but all I do are dailies and sometimes I don't even bother. Dmm Aigis has been fun though it'd be nice to actually understand what the girls are saying. Helped me remember a bunch of Kanji I had always been forgetting though.

>> No.14005192

>>14004903
That no CC 3 star won't work too well any more. There is now an early armor that spawns 100% of the time, instead of only sometimes.

>> No.14005264

>>14005144
Everyone is suffering because developers are assholes, not because of cheating.
All known hacks were fixed next day after discovery, I can attest as one who used them and tested after fix, your account was automatically banned right after you used any of memory hacks.
This whole "we still fixing critical bug" thing is just pile of bullshit.

>> No.14005505

>>14005264
With all the players this has brought to DMM which always would have been vastly superior regardless, I honestly think it's a good thing.

>> No.14005555

>>14005264
The actions of the players still gave them this excuse, regardless if it is already fixed or not. I still agree with them being over-anal about it, though. I don't believe there was truly any valid reason to delay the event for this long.

>>14005505
Not all of us prefer to play DMM version. I started playing it on the side, but I don't enjoy it that much. I'd like to be able to read it, even if I don't need to.

>> No.14005559

Actually, according to some recent reports, they didn't bother to implement protection they used on dmm version on nutaku version yet,
http://www.quicktopic.com/51/H/WGtwRZRQKWUr/p-1.16.0
So they were just not doing anything at all for past month for nutaku.

>> No.14005574

>>14005559
Reading those posts makes me sad to be the same species as them. Just play the damn game the way it was meant.

>> No.14005703
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[ERROR]

It did end up being a collection event. There goes most of my free crystals.
Hopefully the farming maps have some silvers I need this time.

>> No.14005737

>>14005703
I've got feeling that last week's new black, rate increase and this event are designed to absorb SCs they distributed for free.

>> No.14005739

>>14005703
the maps have 100% drop rate first run, so make sure you don't go further than you are 100% sure of.

Second map has silver berserker, third has silver male rogue and soma. I stopped there.

>> No.14005743

>>14005703
Heh, just reached lvl 101 then get a collection event. Just like my Nutaku except I don't have Nanaly to fall back on this time, wonder how I'll fare. Some weird mage looking guy can make ranged units's range shorter and I don't have any strong melee characters right now.

>> No.14005760

>>14005703
My understanding is 25 gets me the unit?

>> No.14005764

>>14005760
Yes.

>> No.14005769

>>14005760
yeah.

The single digits are skill levels, the double is starting level, the - are cost, with the total displayed in ()

>> No.14005776

>>14005764
>>14005769
Is she a useful unit type? I'm not far enough along to do any more than maybe get 100. Depends on if I feel like farming, or continuing to level my team.

>> No.14005778

What are we collecting btw? Is that bone? Wood?

>> No.14005782

>>14005776
See >>14003464
>>14001207
>>14001377

>> No.14005797

>>14005776
heard she's feng shui. they are healers that can heal two/three units at one time. significantly lower attack but they also reduce effect duration such as the crimson mist in her event.

don't much like them myself. I prefer to have a single unit tank all the damage if possible.

>> No.14005806

>>14005778
魔神の骨片, self-explanatory.

>> No.14005819

seems like 4th mission drops a gold pirate instead of silver

>> No.14005822

>>14005739
4th map has a male pirate. I could use a few and if the drop rate is decent it has a pretty good drop per stamina rate.
6 bones on first run, but I'm done for now. I'll let some other people find out approximate drop rates.

>> No.14005829

>>14005822
It was 16 bones from the 4th map.

>>14005819
I got a silver pirate.

>> No.14005844

>>14005806
Demon god bone fragments?

>> No.14005863

>>14005844
Majin is more like "demon, who has god-like powers", its not deified by demons and there are many majins (like Amon or one who was resurrected during ベルディナート event).

>> No.14005865

So I just got second Bashira, if I fuse, will my CCd Bashira still increase the skill if I fuse non CCd Bashira to it?

>> No.14005877

>>14005865
no

>> No.14005883

>>14005865
No. Only if skill has exactly same name it has chance to rise.
CCed Bashira has skill "triple shot", non-CCed "double shot".

>> No.14006067

>That moment when you realize Despara only needs 1 witch instead of 3 to CC

Happy day!

>> No.14006084

So you can get only ~700 bones w/out spending SC. Maybe second half maps will have better drops, but looks like you need to pay tons of SC to max out event unit otherwise.

>> No.14006332

>>14005574
The game as it was meant to be played is a gigantic pile of mindless grind for months. It ain't fun.
So I just went in, got all the fun I wanted for a while, and left once they blocked it off.
Problem?

>> No.14006349

193 daemon crystals, I don't know whether to wait 3 hours for another H run or to risk a normal for my sweet, sweet spica.

>> No.14006351

>>14005865
you need to 30cc you second Bashira in order to increase your main Bashira's skill

>> No.14006573

>>14004492
I just got her, not sure if i will use it tho

>> No.14006688

Just got Wood Mage Laurel, she seems pretty decent with her +400HP if the enemy probes her with a weak card.
How's her def for a 7 drop? I don't seem to have that many other 7 drops, the closest comparison being Ryuumei but she's much higher level than Laurel and has less ATK anyways.

>> No.14006778

wow this dmm event is pretty hard. If I could only 2 star the 4 stam map, is it worth trying further? I could probably buy those new buffs, but not sure if they're worth it

>> No.14006903

So 50/7 or 80/9?
I could really use the plat fairies in 50/7 but the bone drops seem too unreliable.
The other one seems to have 100% guaranteed drops.

>> No.14006916

>>14006903
Plat fairy drop rate is low, and the RNG bones.

>> No.14007053

>>14006688

Her def is decent for someone with her rarity and cost. She's usable if you like her.

>> No.14007059

>>14005703
So, when she uses her skill she can only heal one unit pre-AW and 2 units after AW?
I hope her attack multiplier becomes at least 2x otherwise she seems pretty trash when compared to the other feng-shui users.
Still, she's damn cute.

>> No.14007202
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14007202

きついだね.
At least I can reliably kill all stuff-dropping enemies.
>>14006903
Wiki says both 極級 and 神級 have guaranteed bones drops, is it wrong?

>> No.14007234

>>14007202
It says every drop is guaranteed for the first time.

>> No.14007242

>>14007234
it took me 2 runs to get both soma and the silver thief dude, so I guess only one drop is guaranteed at one run

>> No.14007259

>>14007234
No, 判定 means all the time, and its specified only for bones.

However I see comments there saying its wrong, so seems like its not fixed indeed.

>> No.14007261

>>14007242
They drop off a specific monster, you didn't kill that one and did on second run.

>> No.14007312

>>14006067
Meanwhile she needs 4 for awakening.

>> No.14007333

>>14007259
That kanji is actually used with the meaning of "max".
50/7 isn't full drop but 80/9 seems to be.

>> No.14007346

>>14007333
You are right, I confused it with 確定 somehow, shame on me.

>> No.14007354

>>14007346
Don't worry. I was confused the first time I saw it as well.

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14007471

Went and blew my stock, anything good, or no?

>> No.14007487

>>14007471
Hell yeah, both those plats are good, and monica is also great for her demon crystal drop rate boosting ability. The soldier is obvious, the bow cavalry girl is something between an archer and a valk, but note that her attack is halved while blocking.

>> No.14007530

I wonder how did they figure what are additional rewards for event (armors/spirits)?
Did some crazy whale spend dozens of SCs to just document them?

>> No.14007555

>>14007530
Pretty sure it's just the same rewards every time there's one of these events.

>> No.14007560

SC calculator for current event:
https://zenith6.github.io/aigistools/demon-bone-timer/

>> No.14007569

It looks like I've rolled 3 blacks since the last time I rolled a plat. I think my luck might be broken.

>> No.14007579

>>14007569
Want to give me your luck? yet to roll a black on both my dmm accounts

>> No.14008283

>>14006573
fuck her and let her rot

>> No.14008522

>>14004492
Seems like nobody mentioned that she also has an ability that lowers the skill cooldowns of silver units.

>> No.14008654

LoV: mrgh, I should pay attention to the 4M stats of Rs before I decide to throw fodder at them. Hate myself for going back to raise a 4M Heidi now when she's useless for expeditions. Similarly, Chizuru got 4S'd and sold without regret once I paid attention.

Event 9-tails... is great for newbies as she's practically Sandra in an R body. But she sucks for expeditions compared to say, Sharo or Suzume.

>> No.14008725

>>14008654
I am 4Ming my rares without care due to me being too stubborn to pay money and autism triggered by not maxing out my 1 copy of everything. Hell I should just focus making my 2M rebecca into a 4M given that I have enough copies in the gift box, but this event is hitting me in the inventory and I have been retarded and am wasting time and progression keeping inventory slots open for event grills.

>> No.14009114

AS: so I faced a maxed Sylvie backed with a trap with only a Candella on board. I suspected the trap was Prepare for Battle, which would have made my under-levelled Candella die. So I summon 2 face downs and have Candella beat something else up to burn the trap (it was Prepare for Battle).

Sylvie eats Candella and becomes 2800 Atk. Then I reveal the 2 face downs were 1200 Atk Sara and 1410 Atk Okita (+300 vs fire).

I still lost the match afterwards but that felt so good.

>> No.14009169

Anyone know how much HP the wolves have in war of magic? Recently got my Despara cc'd and looking to see if it is worth pumping my current Gadoras/Rainbows into her.

>> No.14009329

>>14009169
>Despara cc'd and looking to see if it is worth pumping my current Gadoras/Rainbows into her.
Did you just ask a retarded question? Cause I think you asked a retarded question.
CC50/80 Max Affection ATK: 528
Atk Up IV Skill 5/5 x1.9
so 528 x 1.9 = 1003
1003 atk power right there. No Prince buff either.
She's already the most powerful witch, so of course you should be buffing her up, even if you aren't doing War of Magic.

But I digress. Wolves HP is 1200. So you won't be one-shotting them even with her maxed out and skill used. But you'll still be doing more than most any other witch.

>> No.14009771

>>14009329
I'm not worried about how good she is. I only needed to know the HP they had. If 1200, then she is already strong enough to 2-shot them with skill active. I don't need to dump all my resources into her if this is the case.

>> No.14010126

>>14009771
You should try to skill her up regardless.

>> No.14010138
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14010138

>tfw opponent uses Occult Obliteration on Fizzle

So good.

>> No.14010167

>>14010138
>Using fizzle the way it's meant to be used.
You smart, I like you.

>> No.14010186

>>14010167
As an added bonus, I played it on the same turn that I stealth-played Miyabi to throw off any mana counting.

That Sylvie was still too strong for my Miyabi, but Sylvie is no match for Marsha.

Opponent surrendered after I forced his Sylvie into defense mode and did a direct attack with Miyabi.

>> No.14010237

>>14010138
So do you fuck up and accidentally use the wrong decks occasionally. I do this too much during Toast for men H day, but luckily a little micro and my manly crew can 3 star Dragon hunts.

>> No.14010400

You know what AS seriously lacks?

control.

spells just do whatever the fuck they want. after playing other tcgs it's incredibly hard to be interested in this when you lose because automated spells.

>> No.14010419

>>14010400
There's that but in my case, I'd actually like the early game to be more meaningful.

>> No.14010466

>>14010400
I actually like the "probing" traps mechanic. If you could selectively pick which attackers you wanted to Invitation to Hell or w/e, it'd punish the attacker a lot more, so there'd be a lot more turtling to compensate.

Here, trap order matters and low-cost fodder has a purpose. It's just as risky for the defender to place his traps the wrong way just as it is for the attacker to send his attackers in the wrong order.

The more inherent problem, IMO, is that Occult Obliteration isn't a starter card (along with many other cards that should be starters, including some SRs), so most people don't even have other options instead of blindly suiciding and hoping for the best.

I have a Daydreamer Alice, which lets me return a spell/trap to the opponent's hand, and I already feel way ahead of the curve for having more options than other people when it comes to disarming traps.

>> No.14010675

>>14010126
Opportunity costs bro
he's giving up on boosting other chars if he does that
makes sense to get her as strong as needed and move on

>> No.14010843

So losing to Swinlder actually only costs 1 RP, still a waste of time though. Maybe I should just give up every time I fight him.

>> No.14010991

did they fuck up the gacha ticket pricing and make them 400 pero?

>> No.14011089

>>14010843
So what's his deck have?

>> No.14011113

>>14011089
Hmm, max Natalies, Crows, Sakuras, Framboises, I don't how many Rosemarys and Anastasias. The traps I've seen are Forcefield of Lights, Dodges, and Invitations to Hell. Then Books of Awakening.

>> No.14011129

>>14003464
I think I just got Mar? The one with the green hair?

>> No.14011137

>>14011113
I surprised he doesn't get locked out by a Flora.

>> No.14011166

Wish I bothered to level my ranger. Or bothered to grind some more Kanons for mincost.

On other hand, its nice that aigis keeps making maps for all of their bajillion classes, everyone have some kind of usage.

>> No.14011183

>>14011137
Maybe he does, I dunno. Even if you have a Flora you gotta survive the first turns first, it's very easy for him to get board control and keep it. Not to mention Floras are actually pretty rare in my experience. Only encountered two of them, one wasn't even level'ed.

>> No.14011596

>>14010419

I have had games where the earlygame dictated the outcome of the whole match. It's really a question of "who fails to play something on-curve every turn?"

The earlygame loses meaning if they have a high-cost maxed card and you have nothing to deal with it.

>> No.14012001

>start clearing that desert arc on dmm aigis
>all those brown sluts
hnngh

>> No.14012012

>>14012001
But there only two brown sluts, not counting man-sluts.

>> No.14012117
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14012117

... aight

>> No.14012227

How do I even level plats from 50 to 70? I heard dmm has black exp armors, how do I get those?

>> No.14012235

>>14012227
Black armors come from harder-than-kami missions, you aren't going to clear them if you don't have team of awakened units.
Just dump plat armors, its not as terrible as it seems.

>> No.14012246

>>14012235
Speaking of awakening, I need some stuff from those hard 90 charisma dailies, right? Are they all equally difficult? I couldn't clear any yet

>> No.14012263

>>14012246
No, you need spirit from trade post and orbs. Orbs come from orb dailies.

>> No.14012267

>>14012246>>14012263
Well, actually, yes, 90 charisma dailies are orb dailies.
Look for videos if you can't clear them yourself.

>> No.14012976

>>14012235
That's not true, I 3-starred one when my only awoken unit was a witch, but just getting the black armor is a lot easier than 3-starring.

>> No.14013017

>>14012246
No, some of them are way easier, the witch one is extremely tight on cost, whereas the armor one is really easy if you have a few CC healers and some ranged units and a tank.

>> No.14013117

is there a video for the 80/9 event map yet?

>> No.14013129

>>14013117
There were tons of them within first few hours of event beginning. Wiki has links for keyword search, use them.

>> No.14013137

>>14013117
I watch sennen war's videos since he doesn't use awakened units.

>> No.14013303

>>14013137
It's a pretty solid strategy for this map but it does feel like he was kinda just throwing Gloria in for the hell of it, I dunno.

>> No.14013343

>>14013303
I got destroyed by the oni ninjas, only 1stared it. Still, farmable without missing drops with my team so thats good enough I guess
My team was mostly similar to his, aside from Gloria and I also don't have all those valks to duel, so had to take everything head on. I suspect lack of valks made a bigger difference than lack of Gloria

>> No.14013365

>>14013343
You don't really need valks, you just need to throw melee units at the stunning ninjas until they die.

>> No.14013373

>>14013343
You could follow http://www.nicovideo.jp/watch/sm27027415

The valkyrie is very important still, I used a weaker one and it ended up getting wrecked quicker than I could retreat and from there it was all chaos but still managed to 2 star it. very simple set up.

>> No.14013550

whats a reasonable amount of majin bones to farm? I don't wanna blow my SCs on farming because I am still saving for the 250 unit slot expansion, but I also don't want a completely shit event unit

>> No.14013579

>>14013550
I'd say 800 for skill level 7 and -3 cost.

>> No.14013650

>>14013550
Depends, do you already have a feng shui?

>> No.14013662

>>14013650
I don't

>> No.14013726

>>14013662
Well, 700 is probably fine if you're trying to save.

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14013816

Might be worth trying to get 2 of her depending on cost of trap destruction.

>> No.14013858

>>14013816

5 mana per jp wiki

>> No.14013887

>>14013816
>>14013858
She's pretty costly, but 2700 attack means she'll be pretty safe even if she spends her turn destroying traps instead of attacking.

Although, like Sylvie, she suffers from the same crippling weakness to Decree/Marsha, albeit not as bad.

>> No.14013896

>>14013887

I think she's usable and I would certainly be replacing sylvie with her in my deck when I get her. By the time you can get her out 5 mana for her ability is not as bad, and her atk is high enough for her to protect herself.

I think her raw stats are nice enough for use and ability is very situationally useful.

>> No.14013908

Ok, time to hoard lottery tickets for whenever there's another event gacha. I'll just have to accept Riku, Maria, Kai, Ulrika and others will never be completed (unless I become a whale in the future). I got more 4-ofs than I thought I would so I'm content.

>> No.14014048

>>14013908
the Event lasts until the 8th you have another 2 login bonus lottery chances before it ends, there was never enough tickets to get everything unless you horded, which is what I plan to do in the future as well anon.

>> No.14014083

>>14014048

I could roll more, but in 8 rolls today I completed one more 4-of. I don't want to lose any more tickets to try and complete the remainder. Scoring 4xHana was great.

>> No.14014241

Just fought Nordland's deck in Arena. Sad to see Lv 1 cards of the latest premium gacha.

>> No.14014675

What's with these people in tournament taking like 20 secs each to decide mana/place a card/attack.
Was gonna give up took so fucking long.

>> No.14014711

>>14014675
Lag, most likely.

>> No.14014873

What's up with the "session expired" after long tournament matches?

>> No.14015311

So I've CCed:
Two Archers - Bashira, Claire
One Soldier - Katie
One HA - Bernice
One Healer - Iris
One Witch - Nenya

Any suggestion on what to CC next? Got the stock chars + Amanda, Lilia, Lyla, Sailor Viera, Marius, a good range of golds with the non-standard ones being a pirate, a vampire hunter, a monk, a feng shui, and a priest warrior. Only unusual silver is the futa angel.

Also are there any samurai that don't suck, and can I do something worthwhile with the three silver samurai I got?

>> No.14015408

>>14015311
A mage, Another healer, witch, soldier or heavy in that order?

>> No.14015488

>>14015408
Crap, forgot the Mage - yeah, got one of those CCed, good old Valerie.

Guess I'll go with Fedora then. Shame Roberto's such a terrible healer, he looks pretty neat.

>> No.14015503

>>14015311
Marius, Amanda, the feng shui, vampire hunter, and priest warrior all sound good.

>> No.14015693

>>14015311
>Also are there any samurai that don't suck
There are good samurais, they're all Gacha-only though.

>can I do something worthwhile with the three silver samurai I got?
Not besides CC/AW Material. The Silver Samurais are garbage.

>> No.14015748

>>14015693
>There are good samurais, they're all Gacha-only though.
Damn.

Akane included in that list of decent ones, or is she trash too? Or just trash vs what else you can buy in the Trading Post?

>> No.14016174

Is the club forum messing up for anyone? Maybe broken pages?

>> No.14016192

>>14016174
working fine for me
is it happening in a specific page? or in general?

>> No.14016216
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>>14016174
>>14016192
It's an issue that happens when I turn on cloudflare. I turn it on every few days to test it out for a few minutes when they ask me to try it again. Been working with them for a while trying to figure out the issue.

But pic related is what is happening that causes the broken pages. It clears back up once I deactivate it.

>> No.14016557

I'm level 87 on dmm and can only do up to the second event mission. Should I even bother with the event?

>> No.14016577

>>14016557
Grind 25 bones to get unit and then focus on levelling and raising team.

>> No.14016599

>>14016557
There's probably another map you'll be able to do in the second half of the event.

>> No.14016659

>>14016599
Second half? So they'll give us more maps later on? I can't get past the third one if you meant there was a map I could do halfway in.

>> No.14016673

>>14016659
2 week events usually have 4 additional maps on second week.

>> No.14016894

How good is that gold cannon girl (Meru?)
What's the strategy for a cannon unit?

>> No.14016933

If I have Mar, do I need to bother with this event healer? I'm only at 29 bones.. heh

>> No.14016946

>>14016933
They say that aside from Liana, units from item collection events are very useful.

>> No.14016948

>>14016894
Almost the same as mage? Except they deal physical damage and not magical.

>> No.14016951

>>14016557
Tried once again after gathering info and it seems I can do third mission. So is grinding the third map worth it?

>> No.14016952

>>14016948
Gotcha. Thanks!

>> No.14016953

>>14016946
Well, I already got her. But my DMM account is still very new, so I'm actually thinking I'm better off just doing the minimum to get her, and continuing to race to get my team better.

>> No.14016963

>>14016953
At least try to get her to -2 cost if you can so it'll be like she's at base cost compared to others of her class.

>> No.14016972

>>14016946
Liana is one of the best ones.

>> No.14017003

>>14016946
>aside from Liana
I only just barely got her when I was new and she's one of my three healers now. She has very high raw stats with a instant active skill that increases range and removes paralysis.

She's actually the only event unit from then till now that I use unconditionally.

>> No.14017009

>>14016972
>>14017003
Just repeating what I read at ulmf.

>> No.14017332

>>14016972
Well, unless you need her for curing ailments, her skill is pretty shit when compared to the plat healers. Skill AW makes it a bit better, but it's a pathetic 15 secs with a long cooldown.

>> No.14017398

I think I've found the guy with the strongest deck, TheHero. It's even stronger than Swindler's imo. I knew I had no chance to win but delayed a bit just to see his cards. It looked like I was up against the Avengers, haha. I was a nice but short experience.

>> No.14018251
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The summer gacha did good with the valks donning swimsuits in their (S)R++ forms.

>> No.14018620

>>14017332
And it's very useful, particularly on many difficult maps like the 1000 youkai attack or Amon.

>> No.14019094

AS: I thought I was dead when I had a bad hand with no <7 drop by turn 3. My Emily got shut down by a turn 1 play. But then... nothing big came out after turn 5. I got out Katia. Opponent got out what I suspected was Invite. +300 x2 on Katia, go over the Invite. Muriel starts -500'ing anything face up for Katia to whack. Opponent bleeds out.

>> No.14019099

>>14017332
Keep in mind that her skill doesn't just cure ailments, it outright nullifies them. Still situational, but her stats definitely match up with her rarity. Her raw stats completely out-class the Gold/Plat Healers. I'd still rank her below Saria (Quick Heal OP), but above all of the other Plat Healers. Honestly, anyone other than heavy cashers who have BOTH Saria and Black Iris should use Lianna if they have her.

The only other Item Collection Event Unit that was bad was Ling, but then she got buffed and is now good (you kind of want CR on her though).

>> No.14019152

>>14015748
Akane is, well decent I guess. Evasion is considered pretty trash in the Aigis meta, unless you're using Olivier's 100% Dodge Skill. She has nice Affection Bonuses though (Attack/Defense), and her AW Passive is solid.

Momiji is just awful though, even at max level the duration is like 8 seconds AND she paralyzes herself after her skill ends. On top of that she has an HP Affection which is usually considered the worst.

The great Samurais are: Sakuya, Shizuka, and Chizuru.

Sakuya is the one with an offensive skill, Attack Strengthening III/IV. Her AW Passive is kind of shit though (Passive Assassinate).

Shizuka has better stats/Affection and AW Passive, but her skill is self-healing when she hits enemies. Which can sometimes be good (since Samurais hit multiple enemies), but a lot of the times is useless.

Chizuru on the other hand is a hard counter to ranged units. Her skill forces all ranged units to attack her if they're in range, and gives her dodge. The thing to take note of though, is she can actually dodge magic (magic attacks are normally undodgeable).

>> No.14019158

Hmm, while it didn't matter for the outcome of this match, learnt something good: Invite triggers before Sakura's skill pushes her above 2000.

>> No.14019189

>>14019099
Even if you have Saria and black Iris, she still has plenty of uses. But even then, that's beside the point, we're comparing her to other event units, not to the best healers in the game.

>> No.14019235 [DELETED] 

Saria easily wins but I'd rank Liana below Sidis and Camilla as well, since they have higher healing power during skill and a longer duration. 15 seconds is just too stingy, especially if you have to wait 50 more seconds to use it again.
She's still a solid healer because of her stats and it plays in her favor that melee units immune to status ailments are still rare and mostly gacha only.

It's a shame they only buffed Ren after her revival was over. I regret not getting her afterwards.

>> No.14019238

>>14019099
Saria easily wins but I'd rank Liana below Sidis and Camilla as well, since they have higher healing power during skill and a longer duration. 15 seconds is just too stingy, especially if you have to wait 50 more seconds to use it again.
She's still a solid healer because of her stats and it plays in her favor that melee units immune to status ailments are still rare and mostly gacha only.

It's a shame they only buffed Ren after her revival was over. I regret not getting her afterwards.

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Just pulled this. I got Jerome back when I started on nutaku and now that I moved over to DMM Zenobia.
Anyway, how is she? Seems like just a better Aria except she should be given the same treatment as Jerome in that CCing her will make her skill less useful, but I have no idea about awakening (not that I have to really worry about it yet, I started playing the DMM version about a week ago).

>> No.14019280

>>14019262
She's more combat oriented than Jerome, basically. Whereas Jerome's awakening gives bonus deployment points, her ability gives her a 30% chance to attack AoE, and her awoken skill makes her get 20 cost instead of 15, but you can only use it once and then it turns into a 2x attack and defense boost for the rest of the map.

>> No.14019432

Random AS observation: In general, the base power level of cards is just over 250 per cost at max level, at least for the lower cost cards.

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Looking for a little advice on this girl, doesn't seem to do alot of dmg and attacks slow anyone know what her skill does? and should i just bench her?

>> No.14019753

>>14019628
If I read it right her special ability decreases enemies attack power within her range. And her skill amplifies the effect of her ability.
Personally, just reading this makes me think she's extremely useful for bosses you need to tank but don't have the healing power to back up the tank with.

>> No.14019795

>>14019753
Okay thanks anon appreciate the help

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What do cannoneers(?) do exactly? I got this from premium gacha and I was wondering if she's good for anything.

>> No.14019891

>>14019804
Physical DMG Mages is the best description.

>> No.14019924

>>14019891>>14019804
They also have biggest range out of all units.

>> No.14019994

>>14019924
Some units, like awoken Rachel, get higher range, actually.

>> No.14020443

>>14019891
>Physical DMG Mages
whats the point though? Are there really such huge goblin rushes sometime later in the game?

>> No.14020516

>>14020443
Yes, and enemies with MR as well. The main benefit in most maps is the range though.

>> No.14020557

>>14020443
They also tend to do more damage and have more range too.

>> No.14020626

>>14020443
They're a lot cheaper than mages.

>> No.14020695

>>14019628
She also lets anyone one-shot enemies in range that are below a certain percentage of health regardless of how much hp they actually have.

>> No.14020711

So how do you get the most exp out of feeding off a black unit? I'm waiting for a 3x gacha unit exp event, so with fairies that's 24x. Should I level the fodder unit up? If so, how far?

>> No.14020744

Quick question about Angelic Saga:

Does RP reset with each tournament season? Or will we keep the RP ranks we've earned?

>> No.14020750

>>14020443
Have you never heard of MR?

>> No.14020979

>>14020744
RP doesn't reset. It represents your overall 'skill' and is used mainly for matchmaking.

>> No.14020988

I don't know if anyone noticed, but someone seriously fucked up in Peropero. You can buy 1 N Gacha ticket+pink key for only 400 pero right now, so you can buy the full 6 that normally costs 9000 for only 2400 pero. I went ahead and bought 99, might buy even more.

>> No.14021016

>>14020988
Yeah i've bought a decent amount of em, though I'm not going too crazy since not sure if keys will stay after event.

>> No.14021318

Augh, that duel was fuckin juicy. Guy gets down his level 5 Sakura, I've drawn mostly low costs that are defensive and slapped down a Prepare for Battle. So he can't attack me and he knows it, but I can't attack him either. Then I draw a Crystal of Darkness. Now my two dark cards have some serious firepower. I suicide a 996 Anna into his Weaken with her +300 atk skill, take down his level 5 Sakura low. Then I blow it away with my Daydreamer Alice and blow away his other Sakura in one hit from my Yuzuki. To finish off the humiliation, I blow away his defense Hilde with my Marsha. At this point I've got five cards on my field (just played a 1400 Asuka) and he takes five seconds looking at my field and gives up.
Nothing feels better than absolutely turning the tables and blowing through a guy who thinks his offensive is about to be solidified.

>> No.14021574

Was looking at the really shitty artstyle of the new HuniePop game coming out and I saw this tweet by the developers about Nutaku.
https://twitter.com/HuniePotDev/status/634794111652990976
Then afterwards they say:
"Cool, thanks for your input guys! We're gonna pass of their offer, doesn't seem like the right fit."

Jesus, Nutaku what are you doing?
They very much seem like they are trying to become a general H-game distributor instead of sticking to their free to play japanese H games, as seen by the fact they now host that russian vn on their site, too.

>> No.14021591

>>14021574
Gotta get dem shekels before Aigis goes under and their ship starts taking on water

>> No.14021608

>>14021574
Does this finally confirm that Nutaku is bad at making deals?

>> No.14021614

>>14021608
I'm pretty sure that they just shoot half assed invitations to any h-game developer and hope for the best.

>>14021591
At least I jumped to DMM ahead of time, if that happens.

>> No.14021625

When does DMM Aigis switch over to new events? I want to maximize stamina use during the Monday armor event?

They give the login stamp at noon PST, but it seems like the daily events start earlier.

>> No.14021630

>>14021625
12 AM jap time I think.

>> No.14021643

>>14021625
At midnight Tokyo time.

>> No.14021688

>>14021630
>>14021643

Thanks.

>> No.14021988

>>14021574
>>14021608
Well, they are a distributor, so trying to get more games isn't a bad idea. Since they don't do any development themself, getting new games is one of the few things they can do. I don't see what's particularly bad about that, and Hunie Pop is certainly one of the more popular titles they could aim for. Even if you don't like this game in particular, it's to be expected that you don't like every game offered by a distributor, that's the whole point of offering an array of options.

>> No.14022209

Is there a resource out there for the scenes in lords of valkyrie, I know where to find the pictures but I want the lines as well.
Also if there isnt, I can copy and paste the dialouge for beach girl marin's scene

>> No.14022418

How good are the platinum Pegasus Rider and gacha Alchemist?
http://aigis.gcwiki.info/?%C5%B7%B6%EE%A4%B1%A4%EB%B5%B3%BB%CE%A5%EA%A5%C7%A5%A3
http://aigis.gcwiki.info/?%BF%C0%C8%EB%A4%CE%BD%D1%BB%CE%A5%B7%A5%E3%A5%EB%A5%EB

>> No.14022419

>>14020695
Didnt know that, thanks anon

>> No.14022426

Has the gacha points reward for AS tournaments gone down? Used to be I could get 1200+ in a long fight, but now it seems capped at 650 or so.

>> No.14022443

>>14022426
First 30 matches have a bonus apparently, it wasn't documented but someone was told about it when he asked in the AS chat.

>> No.14022564

On AS:
Is it worth anything to save those duplicate Rs? or should I just feed them to the main deck?
Do I get any bonus by feeding a dupe into another of the same name?

>> No.14023094

>>14022564

For now it is not, I'd just feed them. There are no bonus for letting the same girl eat herself, but there is an exp bonus for feeding cards of the same element to each other.

It looks like in the future there will be a feature where you can try to turn extra copies of R or higher cards into higher rarity cards, so eventually it would be worth it to keep them.

>> No.14023134

>>14022443

Good to know. Much as the tournament can be described as stable now, there's still odd moments of lag and you can't erase humans taking time mulling over their next move. Seems like if you don't care for tournament rewards, you could just spam arena to get gacha points.

>> No.14023143

>>14023134

eh tournament is still a lot more fun than the AI, though.

I kept someone from attacking me for most of a match with a single copy of fizzle played on the field as my trap. Can't get that kind of hilarity with arena.

>> No.14023169

>>14023143
Some people are really stupid in the tournament.

>> No.14023173

>>14023134
You can get more gacha in the tourney if you win a lot.

>> No.14023390

>>14023143

Oh aye, when I want fun I'd still be doing tournament. But when I just want to efficiently grind without thinking, Arena is my preference - given I've already got a deck that's min/maxed towards beating up the AI.

>>14023173

In addition to a high win rate, you also need every game to be over quickly to break even. But tournament games reward less if you win on fewer turn counts (because you haven't gotten to do much) so that'd require 100% lag-free, thought-free play from both sides. Not happening.

>> No.14023437

>>14023390
I dunno, I feel like I'm getting more from the tourney with just 56% win rate. Or maybe the Arena battles just seem a lot longer to me. Come to think of it, it's been some time since I played the arena and when I played a boss in the story quest, it was over real quick. Maybe you're right.

>> No.14023581

>>14022418
Pegasus riders are cool since they're like valks that can switch into AoE attack mode. Alchemists are somewhat niche, they specialize in lowering enemy defense, so they can be amazing with certain strategies or pretty useless with others.

>> No.14023902

Brought a thief to an awakening orb mission and still got 0 drops. Goddammit.

>> No.14024309

>>14023902
You have offended the RNGoddess, feed her more Sacred Crystals to regain her favor.

>> No.14024514

>>14016951
Just curious what kind of team are you running? all the vids i have seen have awakened units or lots of CC ones

>> No.14024598

>check video for the 80/6 monday daily
>full team of awakened maxed units
k

>> No.14024626

>>14024598
There's not much point in running god tier unless your charisma happens to be more precious to you than your stamina that day anyway.

>> No.14024630

>>14024598
kami-kyu was made specifically for awakened units.

>> No.14024717

Always wondered what was the difference between the monday hard and extreme. Is the chance for a plat armor increased?

>> No.14024907

New AS fact: Never Give Up and Prepare For Battle cannot both trigger in the same combat. Just because they have different conditions isn't enough to overcome the limit of "only 1 trap per combat".

>> No.14024935

>>14024717
Yes, from 15% to 20%, and gold armor drop rate increased iirc, and, quite significantly, the gold you get for clearing goes up by like, 15k?

>> No.14024959

>>14024514
I did map three - I think you need a CCed soldier, healer, archer, witch and mage at a minimum.

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>>14024309
I think I've fed plenty.

>> No.14025374

I wonder if we'll even get a date for Odette this week

>> No.14025387

>>14025374
ded

>> No.14025425

>>14025374
DMM's having an Odette revival?

>> No.14025590

So why do you think Aigis lacks any leaderboards? It seems like the thing to drive whales - lot of those Chinese P2W games do things like "Spend the most SCs in a day, win a prize."

>> No.14025729

>>14025590
It'd be hard to maintain them with the current model and having leaderboards in a tower defence game isn't really something you can do easily anyway.

Aigis seems to heavily rely on the gacha for getting people to spend money, like many other somewhat similar games, and it actually works well. When you look at big mobage and f2p games from japan, the big ones tend to have a model very similar to it in that they're p2collect. They know that if you push your luck too much people will be turned off while having a luck based gacha is something a lot of people like and are addicted to. Look at any lockbox system in any multiplayer game for an example. Whales tend to prefer that over simply buying stuff anyway, because luck-based gambling is often more compelling (and addictive).

>> No.14025762

>>14025425
Nutaku was supposed to have Odette for 3 weeks now? Basically Nutaku users were have the event but a day or two before the event the cheating shit happened and the English version hasn't been "fixed" and put back on schedule.

>> No.14027439

>>14027435
new thread

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