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1379837 No.1379837 [Reply] [Original]

Hello /jp/, I have finally decided to get into Touhou, however I don't know where to begin, what should I download first? And where?

>> No.1379844

Her little pink hole. I can't believe it. I mean I've watched that uncensored American porn, but I've never imagined a vagina could be...cute. My fingers become damp and glossy from the juices she produces. I have to taste it...

>> No.1379846

Start by playing EoSD on Lunatic with out ever using focused movement. And if you DARE use the continue (or even get hit a single fucking time) then Flandre will break into your bedroom and strangle you with your own entrails.

>> No.1379854

>>1379837
Here download these
6. EoSD http://www.megaupload.com/?d=hg79cdcu
http://homepage.ntlworld.com/steven.mitchell83/th06_english_patch_0.8.exe

7. PCB http://www.megaupload.com/?d=EAQSAP60
http://www.pooshlmer.com/touhouwiki/images/6/65/Th07_english_patch_1-1-.0.zip

8. IN http://www.megaupload.com/?d=8R1P182E
http://www16.big.or.jp/~zun/html/th08dl.html

>> No.1379856

http://www.doujinstyle.com

touhou

>> No.1379865

Not OP.
>>1379846
I started with EoSD, normal. I do not recommend starting with EoSD. Later games focus much more heavily on following patterns. I don't know if it's just because I started on EoSD, but I'm pretty good at more random bullet dodging, but absolutely dreadful at dealing with patterns.

IN is good for patterns but the bombing system is too easy. I'd suggest starting with SA because it's so fucking difficult.

>> No.1379877

Play Perfect Cherry Blossom
start in normal mode.
beat it a few times using continues
beat easy mode without using continues
beat hard mode a few times using continues
beat normal mode without continuing
Beat Extra
Beat Phantasm

you are a touhou king!

>> No.1379884

just play whatever you want whenever you want, don't listen to any of these idiots.

>> No.1379891

So far in my Touhou life, I've only 1CC'd Hard Mode on EoSD. As far as Extras go, I've taken out Ran, Yukari, Mokou, and Suwako. Flandre and Koishi are way too hard for me.

>> No.1379896

I'd suggest dling it from megaupload as DoujinStyles servers gets hammered 24/7.

>> No.1379895

don't listen to this idiot (>>1379884)
also DON'T start with Imperishable Night

>> No.1379918

Start with Subterranean Animism, Normal mode.

>> No.1379924

what does 1cc mean?

>> No.1379931

>>1379924
You build only 1 command center

>> No.1379932

>>1379924
1 coin consumed.

>> No.1379938

>>1379924
1 custom character

>> No.1379954

>>1379931
I fucking loled so hard

>> No.1379958

Start with Touhoumon or SWR.
They'll get you good at the shooting ones the fastest.

>> No.1379959

>>1379954
Well that's why you posted it, right?

>> No.1379962

>>1379924
1 close combat

>> No.1379968

>>1379877
This is what I did... or what I am attempting to do. feels good man.

>> No.1379989

Thank you guys so much, I think I'll start with downloading these >>1379854

>> No.1379998

EoSD has shit gameplay, play it only if you really have to play them in order.

>> No.1379999

>>1379989
Also, I intend on starting with PCB, but is there any story I should get to know before in past games or is it just plain fun?

>> No.1380008

>>1379837
Touhou is a mediocre shoot em up. The only good thing to come from the Touhou franchise is the doujin music and pictures. The games are boring/repetitive.

A next generation gamer (such as yourself) wouldn't be able to appreciate Touhou. Our generation grew up with good games like Zelda Ocarina of Time, Metroid, Castlevania, and Metal Gear. Primitive, 2bit gameplay like Touhou will make your head explode. Let me put it bluntly. If you have trouble falling asleep at night, Touhou is the game for you.

>> No.1380005

>>1379856
don't go there, Holy is a faget

>> No.1380011

>>1379999
Just keep playing the games and you'll figure out who the characters are. There is some backstory on the creation of gensokyo, previous hakurei, etc, but mostly character stuff. Stick to the characters, then start reading stuff like Memorizable Gensokyo if you really care about them outside of the games and doujins.

>> No.1380017

>>1380008
Go away, you have shitty taste.

>> No.1380025

>>1380008
>If you have trouble falling asleep at night, Touhou is the game for you.
Why are those related?

>> No.1380026

>>1380008
Your generation blows underageb&

>> No.1380030

>>1379877
>>1379968

FAIL

I actually listened to that "easy mode is unforgivable" comic and it did me worlds of good.

Start with Lunatic and repeatedly die until you recognize enemy spawn patterns for that given level. Then it's just a matter of learning the boss spell cards, which are fairly simple since you can watch someone else playing and know what to do and how the bullets will react.

>> No.1380035

>>1379999
Anything you need to know about any given character can usually be found on http://touhou.wikia.com/wiki/Touhou_Wiki . It's surprisingly comprehensive.

There's still a lot of things not yet translated, but most of the relevant info (differences between games, storyline basics, character profiles, etc.) is up-to-date and as accurate as you can get with ZUN's storytelling.

>> No.1380039

>>1380008
I'm pretty sure the Metroid and Castelvania have worse graphics than Touhou....

>> No.1380044

>>1380008
You do realize that Metroid has 2-d gameplay right?

>> No.1380045

>>1380039

LOLOL NO

Faggot kids these days.

>> No.1380040

>>1380039
What is WRONG with YOU.

>> No.1380047

>>1380030
Don't try to learn by memorizing or watching replays. It locks you into only being able to play 1 game/difficulty level. You want to be train your vision on how to see where bullets will be and how to dodge them manually, since this is the best skill that translates from game to game.

>> No.1380052

>>1380047

I'm the guy you quoted, and I wholeheartedly agree, though I am too lazy to work on that and I don't really play anymore. Sometimes I would just be off for whatever reason and I would be fucking screwed. Only thing that ever saved me in those situations is pure luck and unfocused grazing, not skill.

>> No.1380067

Now I'm itching to play, but 6minutes remain till download completes, guess I'll go take a dump.

>> No.1380068

I play with gamepad cuz I rock like that so

>> No.1380063

Do you all play with gamepad, arrow keys, or num pad?

>> No.1380079

arrowkeys

>> No.1380099

also stick to the keyboard you use, im having trouble passing level 2 after switching to a newer keyboard

>> No.1380100

>>1380063
With my fingers.

>> No.1380110

I used to play with keyboard and could never 1cc normal on any game. After I took a few months break, I started playing again with a gamepad and it worked wonders. I've now been able to 1cc Normal in EoSD, PCB, IN, MoF, and SA.

>> No.1380140

what are considered the default settings for IN again?

>> No.1380149

Dear op,

Touhoufags are rejects of rejects. Meaning the weeaboos of /a/ and the stoners of /v/ didn't even want them. To become a Touhoufag is to give into peer pressure. They keep talking about Touhou as if it's a legendary drug. But once you actually play the game, you'll be shocked to find out that the games don't have a plot. And the only thing worse than Touhou's plot is Touhou's art and character designs. ZUN (the creator of Touhou) obviously doesn't know the basics of anatomy. It's almost as if ZUN is stuck in a permanent amateur hour. Plus the loser is a 42 year old virgin to boot. But anyway, getting back to the games. The music is almost as repetitive as the gameplay. Though I'll admit the music is surprisingly good, coming from a man who is stuck in a permanent amateur hour. The character personalities that the Touhoufags fell in love with was created by the fans; not by ZUN. For example, the fan created Cirno is a immature/dumb tomboy. The ZUN Cirno rarely talks in the games. The only hint at her being immature in the games was a one sentence character description (where ZUN says she enjoys freezing frogs).

To make this much simpler, I'll just tell you the truth behind the Touhou faggotry. Touhou characters are "artless." Read the definition of the word "artless." ZUN apparently fails so much at story telling that he managed to create character who the fans felt compelled to give a plot to. Here I'll give you an example. Want to know why you don't see hundreds of doujins about Snake from Metal Gear. It's because Snake's personality is so well done that the fanbase feels no need to contribute to his personality. If it's not broke, don't fix it.

>> No.1380150

So OP here, I'm trying to change the config for PCB, however it will not let me change anything, I figured out the controls ingame but they just do not fit me, how do I change shit up in the key config?

>> No.1380154

>>1380149
continued:

As a result of Touhou's characters being artless, there's endless possibilities of original content. I however disagree with using the artless Touhou characters as templates. In my opinion, people should create their own characters. Touhou's fanbase consist of leechers who leech off the progress of the previous leechers. How hard is it to create 100% original characters? Just like ZUN, the Touhoufags are stuck in a permanent amateur hour.

P.S. Touhou takes place in the same brainless setting that Inuyasha takes place in. "Oh noes, another demon, Yōkai, Witch, or demon has come to take over the world! Hopefully the generic shrine maiden will come to the rescue! XD"

Shitty setting is shitty.

>> No.1380160

>>1380149
Well actually, I do not plan to become a Touhou fag, I just like vertical shooters.

>> No.1380165

>>1380154
You're really not supposed to take the stories seriously.

>> No.1380166

>>1380149
>>1380154

Go back to /a/.

>> No.1380185

>>1380160
Play Tyrian.

>> No.1380183

>>1380154
...except that touhou is an indie doujin game, not an animu or a game produced by gaming giants, so yeah.

>> No.1380194

>>1380166
Protip: I'm not from /a/. My Inuyasha reference was added for extra effect.

>> No.1380206

>>1380183
>produced by gaming giants, so yeah.

Nice try, but Snake's personality and backstory was created by one man. Hideo Kojima.

ZUN just sucks as storytelling. It's as simple as that.

This is a real man:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hideo_Kojima

If you're going to worship someone, try worshiping Kojima.

>> No.1380203

>>1380194

Sir, your posts have convinced me to delete my Touhou games and doujins and so on and improve my taste in doujin games involving magical lolis. Thank you.

>> No.1380222

>>1380185
Like the story aliens attacking us is better...

>> No.1380229

>>1380222
You dare insult R-Type?

>> No.1380237

>>1380025
It'll put you to sleep. Boring gameplay is boring.

>> No.1380238

>>1380206
Did Hideo Kojima ever produced a one-man doujin game?

>> No.1380246

>>1380206
But I never played any of his games, so why should I care?

>> No.1380265

>>1380238
Yes. During the beginning of the Metal Gear series Hideo did most of the work. As a matter of fact, Hideo's team could be summed up as a group of Mexicans. They're just there to do the brute work. Hideo (unlike Shigeru) actually writes the scripts and story.

Did ZUN create a new genre (the stealth genre)? Did ZUN create a low budget Nintendo game that turned into a multi million dollar franchise? Has ZUN won multiple international awards as best game designer? Does ZUN own his own muiti million dollar company?

>> No.1380268

How many of this threads we get a week? 5, 10?

>> No.1380274

>>1380265

Kojima did not invent stealth games you fucking Kojimafag. Metal Gear went to shit somewhere between the end of MGS1 and when Raiden came in.

>> No.1380275

Is ZUN's name ZUN? Does Hideo Kojima have a name like ZUN? Kojima wins.

>> No.1380273

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>> No.1380278

>>1380275

How can Kojima win when ZUN is too drunk to bother playing whatever game it is that Kojima is supposedly "beating" him at?

In b4 life is a game.

>> No.1380276

>>1380246
You've never played Metal Gear or Zone of the Enders? O_o

>> No.1380283

>>1380278
Because ZUN.

ZUN.

>ZUN

ZUN.

>> No.1380284

>>1380274
He pioneered it.

>> No.1380285

>>1380276
>O_o

Definitive proof that people who bitch about touhou on /jp/ are faggots.

Or people bitching in general, but moreso on the subject's home turf.

>> No.1380287

Don't think, feel and you'll be ZUN

>> No.1380288

>>1380285
But he's not the one who is bitching.

O_o

>> No.1380289

>>1380284
ZUN pioneered ZUN.

>> No.1380291
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>> No.1380298

>>1380265
>>Did ZUN create a new genre (the stealth genre)?

"Games where you avoid enemies" have existed for a long time. Kojima didn't really invent anything.

>>Did ZUN create a low budget COMPUTER game that turned into a multi million dollar franchise?

Probably. Wait and see if ZUN decides to really sell out (not likely, but who knows). Metal Gear didn't start on the NES, FYI.

>>Has ZUN won multiple international awards as best game designer?

No, but he has received nominations. Let's see what happens in the future.

>>Does ZUN own his own muiti million dollar company?

>> No.1380305

but ZUN.

>> No.1380301

>>1380288

Anyone who supports anti-Touhou in this thread is supporting the person who is bitching about how much Touhou sucks.

Does it? Yeah, it actually is kinda overrated, but bitching is bitching.

>> No.1380310

>>1380298

I bet if ZUN sobered up and gave into corporate greed and was an arrogant asshole he'd be equal to or greater than Kojima in terms of accomplishments.

So tl;dr the argument was Touhou sucks because it's creator is too chill and drunk compared to an Hideo Kojima? Lolol

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>>1380206
I'd rather worship gods.

>> No.1380317

Touhou = Metal Gear

>> No.1380318

>>1380313

I don't know where he got "worshipping zun" from "hey guys which touhou should i play first?'

>> No.1380319

>>1380317

AWESOME

someone post that pic of snake hiding under cirno's dress

>> No.1380324

Why are we comparing Hideo Kojima (a living legend of the gaming industry) to ZUN (an alcoholic)?

Hideo Kojima is arguably the second best game developer to come out of Japan, the first obviously being Shigeru Miyamoto. I'm ready to laugh at anybody who disagrees with Shigeru being the best. But before you embarrass yourself, I suggest you take a look at the projects he has worked on:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Nintendo_games_created_by_Shigeru_Miyamoto

>> No.1380325

Question: Did Otakon play Touhou and/or post on /jp/?

>> No.1380331

>>1380324
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Nintendo_games_created_by_Shigeru_Miyamoto

>Mario, Zelda, Donkey Kong, Star Fox + 40 rehashes of each.

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>>1380319

>> No.1380337

>>1380324
Wow, I didn't realize that he only directed/designed the original games. Pretty funny that around 30 of those games he only produced.

>> No.1380345

>>1380331
>The Legend of Zelda: The Ocarina of Time
GG

>> No.1380363

This is a good genuine thread derailed by the trollbait.

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>>1380324
>>Hideo Kojima is arguably the second best game developer to come out of Japan

Oh you.

It's really not right to compare Miyamoto (one of creative minds in the business) to Kojima (whose "original" works are some of the most derivative in the business).

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>>1380149
>The ZUN Cirno rarely talks in the games. The only hint at her being immature in the games was a one sentence character description (where ZUN says she enjoys freezing frogs).
http://touhou.wikia.com/wiki/Phantasmagoria_of_Flower_View:_Cirno%27s_Scenario
no reason to blatantly lie while you're trolling, is there? or are you a ⑨, too?

>> No.1380392

Gunpei Yokoi is powering Tokyo with the energy his grave-revolutions are generating right now.

>> No.1380401

>>1380392
Indeed.
Rest in peace, Gunpei; I'll remember you forever.

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>>1380327

dohohoho
I post this at any given opportunity.
You gave me an opportunity.
YOU PLAYED RIGHT INTO MY HANDS!
MUAHAHAHAHAHAHA!

(Anonymous proceeds to run around in a circle and runs off into the horizon shouting "XANATOS IS A SUCKER")

>> No.1380409

>>1379837
OP: you might be better off asking /v/. No, seriously.

>> No.1380414
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>>1380362

He is not worthy of the title NINE-BALL

>> No.1380417
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>>1380319

>> No.1380415

Best game developers from Japan:

1.Shigeru Miyamoto (Mario/Zelda/Donkey Kong/Star Fox)
2.Hideo Kojima (Metal Gear).
3.Hironobu Sakaguchi (Final Fantasy).

No one, and I mean no one from Japan can even come close to the game developers mentioned above.
I have nothing against Touhou, but when you start giving an inferior game developer like ZUN more praise than the people who actually deserve praise is when I have to start saging your blatant Touhou faggotry. You can say Touhou is good, but don't say ZUN is good. Got it?

The best music/composer is Nobuo Uematsu.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nobuo_Uematsu

This 23+ GB OST torrent is much bigger than any thing the Touhoufags could spawn. The only reason why that Touhou OST is so big is because it's in an xbox big format. For example, if I was to convert Final Fantasy's OST into that format it would be 600GB. Keep in mind that all of the music in this file was done by one man. Which basically means all of Touhou's doujin music groups combined can not compete with one man.

>> No.1380425

>>1380415
>Final Fantasy

You're losing your touch.

>> No.1380426

>>1380415

This is copipe from /v/, right? I haven't been there in years, so I wouldn't know.

>> No.1380430

>>1380415
>Nobuo Uematsu.

Yasunori Mitsuda would like to KICK YOUR ASS.

Uematsu was a hack who only worked well on a low-tech medium and his music collapsed on high-definition scales, which is why he got the motherfucking boot.

>> No.1380437

Gunpei spins faster and faster...

>> No.1380439

>>1380430

Good god do I love Mitsuda.

>> No.1380445

>>1380206
>Kojima

You mean the same Kojima that waved the plotholes of 3 games by throwing his arms up in the air and proclaiming "NANOMACHINES!"

>> No.1380453

>>1380430
>>1380439

CHRONOTRIGGAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

>> No.1380450

>>1380415
Only westerners would put Kojima in their top list of game developers. Besides MGS, he hasn't anything that has particularly made the industry what it is today.

In the music department, Mitsuda and Hamauzu are better than Uematsu. Quality > Quantity.

>> No.1380458

>>1380450

Wtf has Hamauzu done that's so great.

Not a big Final Fantasy fan here.

>> No.1380468

>>1380453

Cross was where he flexed that genius musical muscle.

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1380472

Why are we talking about people in real life? This 3D faggotry must cease. Get back to talking about the actual games or get off.

>> No.1380470

>>1380450
>>Only westerners would put Kojima in their top list of game developers.

This is truth.

>> No.1380473

touhou's a game
it's interesting if you're into it and if you don't like it you don't like it
you're definitely not going to find anything like it on the american game market
why is this such a terrible thread

>> No.1380478
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1380478

>Kojima

Yeah, no.

Here's another person you can worship

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Masahiro_Sakurai
-He made Kirby's Dream Land when he was 20 years old
-Kirby Super Star when he was 24
-Oh god look at that face

>> No.1380482

>>1380030
>>1380030

>"easy mode is unforgivable" comic

What comic?

>> No.1380490

>>1380337
>Wow, I didn't realize that he only directed/designed the original games. Pretty funny that around 30 of those games he only produced.

Fail much? Have you never watched/read an interview with Shiggy? There is no directing/producing with Shiggy. When Shiggy produces a project he behaves like the director. Shiggy said that he doesn't like being called the director, so he changes the credits so that it says he's the producer. Even during the production of Zelda he changed his position to producer at the last minute. Eiji Aonuma wasn't even going to be the director of the new Zelda till Shiggy switched with him.

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>>1380317

>> No.1380503

>>1380478

SAKURAAAAAAAAIIIIIIIIII

>> No.1380529

The last good Mario was Super Mario World
The last good Zelda was Link to the Past
Metal Gear has ALWAYS sucked.

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1380533

Remind me why are we comparing doujin games with games made by companies?

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>>1380529

>> No.1380542

>>1380533

Cause that Kojima guy that busted in here ranting about how much ZUN sucks when no one even said anything is a huge faggot.

>> No.1380550

>>1380470
>>1380450
>Only westerners would put Kojima in their top list of game developers.
You /jp/ers sure love to talk, but I'm not hearing any substance. Who do you believe is better than the three listed. I could use a good laugh.

>Yasunori Mitsuda
Fail. Yasunori is only good at making music that sounds good for 10 seconds before becoming very tedious. I was just listening to Xenosaga's OST. He's good, but not anything special.

Nobuo Uematsu's music is so good that he's made thousands from orchestras alone:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yn71hIsm0U8

>> No.1380564

>>1380550

All video game music pales in comparison to "real" music so your argument is pointless. You going to say Nobuo's a better composer than Mozart or Chopin? Yeah, maybe the young'ins and weeaboos like listening to FF shit more, but it's hard to make an argument as to which is the "better" composer.

So therefore, continue trying to convince /jp/ - Touhou that your shitty Japanese person is better than their shitty Japanese person.

>> No.1380568

>>1380550
>Nobuo Uematsu's music is so good that he got kicked out of the series that made him famous in the first place

Fixin' yer statements there.

Honestly, why are we talking about GAME MUSICIANS as the music-makers? Go listen to Beethoven or Johan Sebastian Bach. Hell, Ozzy Osbourne is better than Nobuo Uematsu.

>> No.1380572

>>1380473
Agreed. But don't say ZUN is a legendary game designer. ZUN (without his fanbase) is an embarrassment. Hell, I'd even say unknown American game developers are better than him.

>> No.1380573

>>1380550
STOP FUCKING UP SO MUCH

>> No.1380578

>>1380572
>But don't say ZUN is a legendary game designer.

Where in this thread has anyone said this? We ought to each get a turn beating your face in and raping your mother for being such a dumb faggot and wasting precious space on the internet.

>> No.1380581

>>1380568
>Ozzy Osbourne is better than Nobuo Uematsu.

I'd prefer to listen to Hellraiser on endless loop than anything ZUN has done, at least.

>> No.1380590

>>1380564
>>1380568
>[Insert "real musicians" tactic]

Offtopic much?

>> No.1380611

>>1380564
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_pZ2ibvZb2Q
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kmDt-EbFslo
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0IjDGts8Ha8

FF8 just to piss you off.

>> No.1380619

>>1380614
>movie soundtrack or band

But I don't like those either.

>> No.1380614

>>1380564
>>1380564

Oh you. Music is music. Game music is "real" music these days; it has just as high a budget and production values as your favorite movie soundtrack or band or whatever.

I know you guys are only casual fans of games, but try to keep the /v/ ignorance in /v/. This also goes for the Kojima worshipper.

>> No.1380615

>>1380590
>ZUN sucking in a thread asking which Touhou title to play

Ditto.

>> No.1380616

>>1380590

Didn't respond to how Nobuo's music actually sounds rather terrible on an orchestral medium.
Seriously, listen to said money-whoring orchestras or The Black Mages. Terrible by comparison to his 'normal work', no? That's because he wrote music for the NES and SNES. It limped along well enough with the PS1's music screwing, but died tremendously on the high-quality PS2 and up.
Ever listen to Lost Odyssey's soundtrack? It's average AT ABSOLUTE BEST.

>> No.1380636

by your argument we Avril lavigne is someone we should all listen to right? since her vid got 80 mil hits on youtube.

>> No.1380638

>>1380614

I'm viewing it from a musician's perspective.
I'm not saying game musicians are bad, just that people who do music for a living and successful at living just by that, are probably better at music than people who do it for a living and are successful because the game sells well.

>> No.1380659

saging this thread OUT OF NECESSITY

>> No.1380662

>>1380638

But all the "game musicians" mentioned in this thread are freelancers with their own companies, so yeah.

>> No.1380684

>>1380662

Nobuo didn't START like that though.

>> No.1380700

>>1380636
We're talking about gamers. And gamers enjoy Nobuo Uematsu's music the most. Noone in the gaming industry comes close to his reputation. He's not only the highest paid composer but he's also the most talented.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rLnZ5jcsRpc
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nobuo_Uematsu


>>1380638
Enjoy your mainstream pop music. Nobuo Uematsu actually creates his own music. Unlike those quote unquote "real musicians" that you speak of.

And just in case you were wondering, Nobuo Uematsu eats, sleeps, and breaths music.

>>1380614
Quoted for truth.

>> No.1380713

>>1380700
>Enjoy your mainstream
>Nobuo

Hurrrrrrrr

>> No.1380733

This thread is an insult to the God Emperor of Gensokyo

>> No.1380735

>>1380700
>Nobuo Uematsu actually creates his own music.

Hachachachacha!
Actually he's had one account of blatant plagiarism.
"Temptation of The Princess" from Final Fantasy II is in actuality a passage from Tchaïkovski's "Swan Lake".

Enjoy your worshiping of a hack.

>> No.1380799

Dear Touhoufags,

I'll agree to never sage a Touhou thread again if you admit that ZUN is a mediocre game developer that would be lost without the various doujin groups that contribute to his franchise. ZUN is only good at making pretty bullet patterns. That's about it.

The guy's music is average when compared to any other composer's music. And to be fair I'll compare his music to other 2D games Metroid, Castlevania, Megaman, and Sonic. ZUN's music only seemed good because you've heard high quality remixes of it from various doujin groups. Protip: Any remix of a 2D song will sound good if you throw in some moe pictures and singing. Hell, even Megaman's music would sound legendary if you added some lyrics. Oh wait, someone has alreay done that.

ZUN has been drawing for 10 years now, yet his artstlye is actually getting worse. I'm a complete rookie at drawing, but even with only 4 months of training I can sketch better than ZUN. Hell, even without drawing skills I could trace something and still have better character design than ZUN.

And dear I even comment on his storytelling skills? Be honest, your 13 year old sister could tell a better story than ZUN.

THREAD OVER/

>> No.1380810

>>1380799
>Any remix of a 2D song will sound good if you throw in some moe pictures

holy fuck my brain just imploded because of the lack of sense that sentence made.

>> No.1380815

>>1380713
You seem to have cut away the relevant piece, which was "pop"...

>> No.1380819

So, to rerail the thread just a little bit (LOL FUTILITY).

I suggest starting with the keyboard, unless a history of gaming on consoles has left you horribly inept at playing with arrow keys (like it has for me). If that doesn't work for you after about a week or so, try with a gamepad.

The key to most Touhou games (and indeed most bullet hell shooters in general) is to learn to recognize the patterns, find (or learn how to create) places where you can slip through between the bullets, and take your chances.
You'll know you're getting somewhere when you see bullets as less "bullets" than "paths where bullets will go".

Aside from that, it's mostly conditioning your reflexes and hand-eye coordination.

Good luck and GG.

>> No.1380823

>>1380799
>fair
>Metroid, Castlevania
>THE TWO GAMES WITH THE MOST AWESOME FUCKING SOUNDTRACKS EVER

lol. Neutral party here.

>> No.1380824

>I'll agree to never sage a Touhou thread again if you admit that ZUN is a mediocre game developer that would be lost without the various doujin groups that contribute to his franchise

No.
Also, sage doesn't work that way

>> No.1380828
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1380828

>>1380799

>> No.1380834

ZUN....ZUN.

ZUN

>>>>>ZUN<<<<<<<<<<<<<
Z U N

>> No.1380826

>>1380799
>>ZUN has been drawing for 10 years now, yet his artstlye is actually getting worse. I'm a complete rookie at drawing, but even with only 4 months of training I can sketch better than ZUN. Hell, even without drawing skills I could trace something and still have better character design than ZUN.

This is my favorite part of your post.

>> No.1380841

>>1380810
Obviously when I said 2D song I was referring to the fact that it was from a 2D game.

Remix of shitty retro music + moe pictures + singing =
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=akmVzeFFQk8

>> No.1380844

ZUN MY MASTER

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1380861

Hey ZUN hater guy. Even after all that stuff you posted, ZUN would still chuckle and hand you a beer. Isn't he a great guy?

So REPENT UR FAGGOTRY

>> No.1380866

>>1380799
sage all you want see if I care, 1 bump > 100 sages

>> No.1380877

thats fine and all but ZUN.
ZUN.

>> No.1380890

>>1380799

Dear Sir,

Your commentary on this matter has made me think long and hard on this issue, and I have come to the weighty conclusion that ZUN is indeed an inferior game creator. I shall henceforth not acknowledge him as a figure worthy of being counted among the pantheon of game creators who have given us the greatest works of art in history. Please accept my sincere apology for any ignorance I may have shown in this thread.

Sincerely,

Anon.

>> No.1380894

>>1380866

However, 100 sages = 100 posts closer to autosage; the zone where your allmighty bumps fail.

>> No.1380904

>>1380894
and it only takes 5 seconds to start a new thread, good luck finding unbanned socks 5 proxies to use with your yo.pl!

>> No.1380912

ZUN hater
Kojima worshiper
Nobuo Uematsu
Troll

I've been called many things in this thread, but at the end of the day I'm a model citizen. Want to know a secret about me? I'm also a Touhoufag. I just don't like it when people say ZUN is a high tier game designer.

As we speak I'm currently working on a Touhou project to end all Touhou projects. The plan is to make a Touhou related product that is so above the competition that it'll permanently kill the Touhou doujin faggotry. At the end of the day only a handful of people derserve creds, ZUN is not one of them.

And because I know you're going to ask about this project. Let's just say it has something to do with Cirno, Zone of the Enders, and Zelda.

>> No.1380913

>>1380823

Wow... I totally haven't regarded Castlevania's soundtrack for a long while.
Dracula ~Medley~ is one of my favorite songs to dance to.
Not wiggle around to in my chair; actually DANCE to.

>> No.1380934

>>1380912
>I just don't like it when people say ZUN is a high tier game designer.

I haven't BEEN tossing ZUN up there. I've just been beating down people you say are higher.

But you know what my secret is?
Just because it's good in mechanics doesn't mean it's enjoyable, nor just because it's bad means it's not so.

>> No.1380972

I suspect the Zun hater is some guy from /v/ trying to troll /jp/.

I can listen to necrofantasia on infinite loop compare to your FF music. Music taste is subjective anyway, dont try to shove your opinion to the whole of /jp/. If you dont like, just dont listen to it.

>> No.1380986

God fucking dammit.
/b/, /v/, and /a/ are all still up, yet the shit still leaks across the boards.

ZUN DOES SUCK. EVEN ZUN ACKNOWLEDGES THIS. HE'S TOO BUSY DRINKING TO CARE. PISS OFF.

>> No.1381014

>>1380972

And I'm STILL listening to Hellraiser on infinite loop! :D

HEEEEEELLL RAISUHHHHH, IN THE THUNDAH AND HEEEAT, HEEEELLL RAIISUUUUUUUH, ROCK YOU BACK IN YOUR SLEEEEEP

>> No.1381038

>>1380986

It's the weekend.

Take it easy.

>> No.1381040

>>1380841
But this "song" is inferior to the original in every way and I hate it for several reasons.

>> No.1381068

>>1380841
This is horrible; I have no idea what you're talking about. I want those two minutes back.

>> No.1381079

>>1380912
FF7 Cirno moving around like in zone of the enders plus labyrinths made suited for that kind of movement plus obtaining semi useful items used to proceed to new areas?

Sounds passable as long as you don't screw the soundtrack.

>> No.1381087

>>1381079

The guy praises Nobuo. He will screw it up.

>> No.1381096

>>1381068
Slowpoke much? This thread ended four minutes ago. Now go be fat in the corner somewhere, you fat fuck.

>> No.1381106

>>1381079
Hey, next time use a spoiler tag.

That project doesn't exist. It was all in your imagination.

Hey op, /r/ing thread deletion. I'm going to sleep.

>> No.1381194

>>1381106
lolwut

>> No.1381266

Can /jp/ help me win just one game on easy mode?

>> No.1381298

-Touhou parody exists for everything.
-Flowering Night.

Other games don't have these. Fuck you then.

>> No.1381337

>>1380912

>As we speak I'm currently working on a Touhou project
>only a handful of people derserve creds, ZUN is not one of them.

But... wat?

ZUN is the creator of Touhou, and you are making something Touhou related. He created the damned character you are using, and without him there would be no Cirno for your 'project'(Which I'm pretty positive will be SHIT).

>> No.1381414

>>1380912
Comparing ZUN to those people is flawed in so many ways I don’t know where to begin. At a stretch you could maybe compare him to Hiroshi Iuchi, but then again it also took him over triple the time, he had 3 supporting lackies, and he did not code anything.

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