/jp/ - Otaku Culture

Maybe he doesn't want little ZUN to get made fun of at school

>>13394255
What will ZUN do if little ZUN accidentally ends up in Gensokyo and gets molested by Yukari or something?

probably around the time when everyone dropped 2hu like a hot potato and went to the new hotness ship girls. he's resentful his little empire is rotting away.

being old and busted makes people a little grumpy and they start pointing fingers.

>>13394241
>ZUN used to be tolerant about any kind of fanmade material, including the pornographic kind.
>Why did he start hating hentai?
He never has and still isn't.

>>13394261
Mini-ZUN x Yukari doujin when?

>>13394241
I guess that he didn't like the porno in the first place but now has spoken out about it.
reason being he has a family and has partnered up with sony I guess.

as for fan made material I have never heard him complain about it as long as they follow the guidelines.

>>13394241
What is OP referring to? Never heard ZUN comment negatively on that part of doujin culture.

>>13394241
He's always disliked H works of his characters you fucking secondary heathen.

>>13394241

I thought he said something along the lines of claiming nobody went far enough to make him despise it.

>>13396600
Isn't there a doujin where someone makes Reimu grow a penis and then a spider lays eggs down her urethra while mind breaking her?

How is that not "too far"?

Citation that ZUN has stopped tolerating hentai?

>>13394241
He always hated it.

>>13396665
He's tolerant about it, but he dislikes it. I think the only "no" is about merchandise like onaholes and other sex toys.

>>13396709
I guess he might not be a fan of
http://en-nls.com/pict1-38091?c2=9999
then.

he picked alphes for art for those games, but have you seen his art?

>>13396741
Pretty sure that at least one of the mangakas that worked on his manga series also did porn. He did not seem to bothered either.

>>13394241
>>13394255
>>13394266
>>13396031
>OP: "zun said this lol"
>posts no source
>morons believe OP anyway

>>13396947
>>>/v/

>>13396818
The plural form of mangaka is mangaka. Also a decent amount of mangaka have done hentai at one time or another.

>>13396947
I remember reading about ZUN's tolerance for any kind of doujin material in the Afterword to ones of his game or in some translated interview.

And then there is this article dated 2011:
>http://www.sankakucomplex.com/2011/02/14/touhou-project-bans-ero-doujinshi-sales-to-foreigners/

Seems fair to assume that he really was tolerant in the past (regardless of whether he liked it or not) but nowadays he wants to stop it.

>>13399300
how the fuck is that "recently", we discussed that shit four whole years ago including all its auxiliary shitstorms

plus the title of that article is atrociously misleading (as expected of shitkaku complex), ANYTHING that would exceed the reach of the original games (ie; sales towards foreigners) was prohibited, not just the pornographic.

>>13399310
> "recently"

Compared to when he claimed to be tolerant, that statement is "recent". Recent is a relative word, chump.

Also that faggot asked for source, so I provided the first I found.

>the title of that article is atrociously misleading

Maybe the part about overseas sales, but being so adamant towards "overly sexual" and "socially unacceptable" stuff sounds like a change from the position he held in the past.

In all likelihood he wanted to clean the image of the Touhou series since he finally decided to start commercializing it properly. And he wouldn't want people who never heard about the original games think that Touhou is some kind of hentai.

>>13394255
> little ZUN
How about Zun JUNior.

>>13399367
>Compared to when he claimed to be tolerant
when was this, exactly

>but being so adamant towards "overly sexual" and "socially unacceptable" stuff sounds like a change from the position he held in the past
he told people not to produce things that are "extremely inappropriate." wow, there goes ZUN, laying down the law, a political correct fascist in the works. incidentally, the sankaku translation sucks dick.

>And he wouldn't want people who never heard about the original games think that Touhou is some kind of hentai.
he didn't want people who had never heard of the original games to think that touhou was anything other than a series of shooting games, it's why there's no anime.

>>13399300
>http://www.sankakucomplex.com
You might just as well link to onion next time.

>>13399396
incidentally i double-checked the source and ZUN clarified what he meant by excessive

>過剰な性的表現というのは法に引っかかる程度です。当然ですが日本の法律には準拠してください
>“[Don't make] Excessive sexual depictions” basically means don’t run afoul of the law.

considering the shit that they sell in japan i'm pretty sure most people are safe (though maybe that's a backpedal, since it's hard to imagine anything drawn that's illegal in japan besides insufficient censorship)

>>13399440
If that's the case, why did he even said it?

It should be obvious that people shouldn't break the "law" (whichever silly laws Japan has). Surely they don't need ZUN to remind them, so he might as well just shut up.

>>13400048
To warn people of course, but this is useless because doujin artists know their boundaries.

>>13399300
>Now it seems they are intent on taking a leaf out of Ishihara’s book by banning material not to their tastes, whilst clamping down on any games or anime which look likely to eclipse the (rather limited) popularity of the original games,

>>13400116
Ghost, this seems like some kind of Saijee's ghostposting.

His butthurt was predicted.

>>13400048
Why do we have disclaimers on draino and other obviously toxic solutions telling you not to drink it?
Because people don't want to be liable when someone does something stupid.

Imagine cops coming to arrest you because some guy made pornos featuring his daughter based on some loli fanfiction you wrote years ago, which the cops found and traced back to you.
Unlikely? Yeah.
But better safe than sorry.

I think I'd get upset too if I saw characters I created get subjected to the extreme perversities present in hentai

I mean who even ships reimu with rumia

>>13400116
>eclipse the (rather limited) popularity of the original games.

This is what secondaries actually think.

>>13400184
>who even ships reimu with rumia

I don't mind the shippings, though I think it would be great to ban all the gore and violent stuff. So long as it is softcore porn I'm okay with touhous being sexualized.

Then again, it's just my opinion. I think everyone is free to produce whatever they want. It's just fiction anyway, it shouldn't really matter and it shouldn't be illegal.

>>13400454
Thank you for being supportive of freedom.

I actually like guro and violent stuff so yeah.
Even ZUN references it so it's cool:
>What about the mid-bosses like Kisume and Momiji?
>As for Kisume... her usual activities are a mystery. The only image I have of her is that she is pretty brutal. Words are useless against her; she'd just chop your head off, put it in her bucket, and go home. The head you see may not even be Kisume's.
http://en.touhouwiki.net/wiki/Symposium_of_Post-mysticism/Interview

>>13400486
And there are people who say "Gensokyo is a nice and happy place", "The dark stuff is only made up by secondaries".

I'm inclined to think it is pointless to look for any kind of coherence in the world build of an alcoholic pedophile.

Gensokyo's nature depends on ZUN's mood at the time he wrote his statements.

>>13400544
There are many facets of Gensokyo, it's a youkai world.

Please be kind and accepting.

>>13400556
>Please be kind and accepting.

Accepting? After fat acceptance, now we have alcoholism acceptance? ZUN needs to admit that he has a problem.

If he keeps it up he is going to die much sooner than expected.

Then again, without alcohol there would be no Touhou to begin with. A sane and sober person would never conceive that kind of madness.

I wonder if ZUN ever dresses his wife up like a 2hu.

>>13400565
ZUN said he would still keep making Touhou until he dies/until he stops feeling it.

So just let him live his life.

>>13400576
I have no idea how could a 3D woman marry ZUN. She must be some kind of sexual deviant worse than any of us. I don't want to think about what goes on in their bedroom.

>>13400587
Please stop demonizing ZUN.

He's just another jap dude.

>>13400594
Other jap dudes keep it in their pants.

But when it comes to ZUN, everyone and their mom know that he is a pedo.

>>13400610
Not really, please, you are only a pedo if you physically molest someone underage.

>>13400587
I donno man, he is kinda cute in a nerdy way.

>>13400624
>Not really, please, you are only a pedo if you physically molest someone underage.
No, that's a child molester. The two are completely different.

>>13400544
I think Gensokyo is casualized version of Japanese mythology with spellcard rules, cute girls and all, but it's still japanese mythology. Some youkai are human eaters, people get killed, etc.
Reimu literally just killed a youkai dude in the manga.

Touhou isn't exactly like MLP.

>>13400610
I'd make a series with all modest cute girl cast just to make it looks comfy, or just for aesthetic.

I believe ZUN thinks that way.
I mean, if he's a pedo why didn't he make porn loli game instead?

>>13400698
I wonder how many /jp/sies liked Japanese mythology (or mythos in general) and their love for 2hu is an extention of that.

>>13400698
>I mean, if he's a pedo why didn't he make porn loli game instead?
You aren't a pedo if you make lolige either.

You are only a pedo if you commit the unlawful act.

>>13400667
That's the police definition of pedophile though, that or having 3DCP.

>>13400698
>I mean, if he's a pedo why didn't he make porn loli game instead?

Thinly veiled is better than full-blown porn.

Think about ecchi manga and hentai manga.

Is there any hentai manga as famous as To-Love Ru Darkness? Nope.

Putting in content that is too sexually explicit is not a good marketing idea. You must know your limits.

But ZUN is still a pedo regardless, just like Yabuki Kentaro.

>>13400698
>Gensokyo is casualized version of Japanese mythology.

How is Remilia japanese mythology? She's supposedly a descendant of Tepes. Even though it is called "Touhou", I think ZUN started going down the path of japanese mythology only starting from Mountain of Faith.

>>13404789
Ecchi manga are very popular among people far too young to legally have hentai manga.

>>13404800
Remi is a liar in a lot of things.
And Touhou has been asian since PCB.

The SDM faction has no relevancy to the setting as a whole.

>>13404800
Maybe I should've said Japanese mythology mixed with western and chinese, but the core is still Japanese lore.

>>13400711
That's why I like the series, that and my love for STGs.

>>13405900
>The SDM faction
I thought they represented the Portuguese who were the first foreigners to land in Japan, and set up shop?

>>13406754
Nah, ZUN just likes vampires and maids.

This is apparent in PC98.

>>13406754
>I thought they represented the Portuguese
Here's a good time to point out that the little sister is named Flandre, not Algarve.

>>13406824
>still not little girl with mustache throwing cods, towels and tiles
Step it up ZUN.

>>13404800
>>13405900
Touhou has always been Asian, since its heroine has always been a miko. You're right though that the SDM cast almost seems like PC-98ers compared to the rest of the Windows games.

>>13407593
>

The name "Team Shanghai Alice" was chosen to fit the overall theme of the Touhou Project. "Shanghai" (上海), according to ZUN, is a multicultural city where the East and the West meet. "Alice" can be a child living in the foreign concessions, but the name "Alice" also suggests a fairy-tale element. So together, "Shanghai Alice" encompasses the blend of oriental and western aesthetics along with fantasy