Why do VNs have such a bad stigma if some of them are better than most books?

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Anonymous Mon Sep 15 23:31:28 2008 No.1311976 [Reply] [Original]

Why do VNs have such a bad stigma if some of them are better than most books?

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 15 23:32:24 2008 No.1311977 File: 138 KB, 800x600, 1221521544989.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Better than books.

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 15 23:33:06 2008 No.1311978 File: 45 KB, 640x480, 1221521586507.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >better than most books

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 15 23:33:17 2008 No.1311980 Because they're not better than most books.

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 15 23:33:26 2008 No.1311981 I don't think you've actually read any good books.

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 15 23:33:27 2008 No.1311982 Because they're always porn. Also, most of them are shit.

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 15 23:34:12 2008 No.1311985 You could've posted a picture of something like Ever17, but no. You had to post the one pic of the girl cutting off a man's genitals with scissors.

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 15 23:37:09 2008 No.1311994 File: 59 KB, 801x583, 1221521829141.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] I thought The Great Gatsby was good until I picked up this masterpiece.

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 15 23:40:08 2008 No.1312001 >Why do VNs have such a bad stigma if some of them are better than most Hollywood movies? Fixed for accuracy.

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 15 23:40:34 2008 No.1312002 File: 70 KB, 640x480, 1221522034790.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] I thought the Clannad VN was pretty good compared to books. Longer than the Bible but still entertaining through most of it.

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 15 23:41:07 2008 No.1312003 >>1311985 Cutting off a man's genitals with scissors was a groundbreaking approach to the medium and was pivotal in shaping today's eroges. It defines the modern visual novel; no discussion of their literary value would be complete without it.

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 15 23:44:06 2008 No.1312008 >>1312003 But one has to ask if we were ever meant to cross that line

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 15 23:44:20 2008 No.1312009 File: 100 KB, 441x408, 1221522260160.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>1311994

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 15 23:46:26 2008 No.1312012 Shouldn't white liquid be spurting out? There's no blood in the penis. Yet another reason why VNs aren't better than books. They can't follow basic anatomy.

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 15 23:48:28 2008 No.1312016 >>1312012 I don't think YOU know basic anatomy.

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 15 23:48:31 2008 No.1312017 >>1312012 I'm fairly certain this is a troll

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 15 23:48:42 2008 No.1312018 >>1312012 facepalm.swf

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 15 23:49:11 2008 No.1312021 File: 98 KB, 346x286, 1221522551605.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>1312012 >There's no blood in the penis.

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 15 23:50:43 2008 No.1312027 >>1312018 swf? Face palms are getting fancy now.

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 15 23:50:58 2008 No.1312025 >>1312012 What? There is blood in your penis. What do you think causes it to become erect? Blood.

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 15 23:52:04 2008 No.1312031 >>1312016 >>1312017 >>1312018 >>1312021 >>1312025 I'm a girl, cut me some slack. :\

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 15 23:53:02 2008 No.1312032 >>1312031 not even trying

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 15 23:53:10 2008 No.1312034 >>1311976 Hey, isn't that game Private Garden? Damn, I really need to get around playing that.

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 15 23:53:28 2008 No.1312038 >>1312031 >I'm a girl

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 15 23:54:13 2008 No.1312039 >>1312032 I thought /jp/ already learned to except that girls browse this site.

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 15 23:54:13 2008 No.1312040 >>1311977 I really want to play this

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 15 23:54:51 2008 No.1312041 File: 21 KB, 350x297, 1221522891254.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>1312031 >girl

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 15 23:54:51 2008 No.1312042 >>1312039 You're funny.

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 15 23:55:24 2008 No.1312045 >>1312039 If by "except," you mean "exclude," then, yes.

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 15 23:55:43 2008 No.1312047 >>1312039 >except You're trying too hard.

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 15 23:55:54 2008 No.1312043 >>1312031 -10/10

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 15 23:56:52 2008 No.1312048 >>1312039 >except 5/10, stupid enough to be a girl, and bonus points for persistence

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 15 23:57:39 2008 No.1312059 I like how you all go for the typo instead of the actual point I was trying to make. Yes, girls browse /jp/. Get over it. Jesus...

Anonymous Mon Sep 15 23:58:11 2008 No.1312062

I'm going to have to agree with OP, most books truly are shit. Certainly no VN in existence will be better than say, Great Gatsby like >>1311994 says, or War and Peace, or Tale of Two Cities or something. But most books aren't Great Gatsby or War and Peace or Tale of Two Cities, most books are shit like Twilight and Harry Potter.

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 15 23:58:16 2008 No.1312063 >>1311976 In all fairness Narcissu is the only VN that can stand up to books.

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 15 23:58:28 2008 No.1312064 >>1312059 >retarded attention whores browse this site No kidding.

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 15 23:59:05 2008 No.1312065 >>1312059 I believe you're a girl. Can we be e-mail buddies...? PLEASE?!

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 16 00:01:39 2008 No.1312072 >>1312068 Somebody already did mention Ever17, genius.

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 16 00:01:57 2008 No.1312068 >>1312065 A VN = literature thread and no speak of the best example, Ever17?

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 16 00:01:58 2008 No.1312069 >>1312064 I thought that girls browsing /jp/ were the only ones you guys recognized as not being retarded attention whores. >>1312065 Maybe :>

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 16 00:02:31 2008 No.1312076 >>1312068 Read the damn thread. It was already mentioned in the first ten responses.

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 16 00:04:31 2008 No.1312085 >>1312069 Really?! Cool! My e-mail is betterthanbooks@kmph.com.

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 16 00:05:06 2008 No.1312089 But ... but, girls only exist in VNs and anime right? Right? I mean, horrific monsters like them aren't real right? I'm scared

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 16 00:05:10 2008 No.1312090 >>1312069 Yes, as long as you don't say that you're girl. You see, the great thing about anonymity is that you don't have to defend your mistakes. Just ignore them.

Anonymous Tue Sep 16 00:05:59 2008 No.1312088

>>1312069
>I thought that girls browsing /jp/ were the only ones you guys recognized as not being retarded attention whores.

The reason we call girls attention whores is because they point out the fact that they're female. Otherwise no one would know and it wouldn't matter. Fuck off.

Anonymous Tue Sep 16 00:10:08 2008 No.1312110

>>1312089

Yes Timmy, there are girls in real life and they are all quite capable of cutting your penis off. These dangerous characters blend into society; they may sit next to you in class or serve your food at a restaurant. But don't be fooled, they all have scissors and are always looking for an excuse to use them. Keep your guard up at all times to prevent an untimely genital death.

BEHIND YOU

Anonymous Tue Sep 16 00:10:37 2008 No.1312114

>>1312085
HURR.

>>1312088
I wasn't deliberately pointing it out, I was just saying I was wrong about male anatomy since I don't own male genitals. How does merely hinting the fact that I'm not male make me an attention whore? If I was going on about how attractive I am then you would be right. You're just re-enforcing the stereotype that you're all jerks and won't get a girlfriend because of it, which most of you admit in your ronery threads.

I have just as much right to be here as you do.

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 16 00:12:59 2008 No.1312118 >>1312114 Your only right is to be in the kitchen. Bitch.

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 16 00:13:26 2008 No.1312123 >>1312090 Then ignore that I said I'm a female instead of raging about it and calling me an attention whore. It's just as easy, you just choose to call us girls out on it because it makes you feel superior or some crap.

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 16 00:14:30 2008 No.1312125 >>1312118 I'm guessing you can't be over the 18+ limit for this site. Go back to GameFAQs until you can graduate to /b/, and stay there.

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 16 00:15:33 2008 No.1312126 ...Ow.

Anonymous Tue Sep 16 00:16:02 2008 No.1312129

>>1312114
Even if you are female, that isn't an excuse, anyway. I learned about female anatomy in school, you should have learned about male anatomy. Besides, the fact that you physically have a penis does not grant you the ability to see what fluids that are moving through it, so there isn't much of a difference, anyway.

Anonymous Tue Sep 16 00:16:07 2008 No.1312130

>>1312123
It's done because they've associated pointing out gender with attention whoring. You made a perfectly valid point, but you need to realize that admitting you're a girl on /jp/ is like murdering your parents and fucking their corpses. It's just not culturally acceptable.

Anonymous Tue Sep 16 00:16:37 2008 No.1312136

>>1312114
>You're just re-enforcing the stereotype that you're all jerks and won't get a girlfriend because of it

This is true, however, the great thing about anonymity (as mentioned earlier) is that if you say something incredibly stupid (UH OH I'M A JERK) like you did earlier, then you can simply not saying anything else about it and it won't matter.

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 16 00:17:03 2008 No.1312140 >>1312123 ... Why didn't you e-mail me? You said you would...

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 16 00:18:32 2008 No.1312145 File: 111 KB, 405x405, 1221524312638.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] What a great thread.

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 16 00:18:45 2008 No.1312148 >>1312129 I've only seen diagrams of them and my parents pulled me out of sex-ed classes, so... yeah. I don't watch 3D porn so technically I've never seen a real penis before.

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 16 00:20:32 2008 No.1312155 >>1312148 This can be changed.

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 16 00:21:07 2008 No.1312158 See, this is why you don't say you're a girl on /jp/

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 16 00:22:05 2008 No.1312163 This thread is a very interesting and strange read so far.

Anonymous Tue Sep 16 00:22:32 2008 No.1312166

>>1312136
You'd be surprised how much of your attitude from trolling on the internet can carry over into your real life. You're either jerks or extremely quiet/boring and generally awkward to be around.

>>1312130
Meh, like you said it's an anonymous board so it really doesn't matter if I say I'm a girl or not. If I was a tripfag then calling me an attention whore would mean something.

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 16 00:23:28 2008 No.1312170 File: 902 KB, 2048x1536, 1221524608406.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>1312148

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 16 00:24:13 2008 No.1312176 >>1312166 FINE DON'T E-MAIL ME. I DIDN'T EVEN WANT YOU TO ANYWAY. FUCK YOU FUCK YOU FUCK YOU

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 16 00:24:28 2008 No.1312178 >>1312155 It could, but after 20 years it hasn't. I'm not bad looking, I just have severe social anxiety like the rest of anon and I like to be alone. Having some annoying guy bothering me all day to get me in bed isn't my idea of fun.

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 16 00:24:45 2008 No.1312180 >>1312166 It would carry over to real life situations if I left my house, yes.

Anonymous Tue Sep 16 00:25:30 2008 No.1312183

>>1312166
>Meh, like you said it's an anonymous board
Stop putting words into my mouth.
>You'd be surprised how much of your attitude from trolling on the internet can carry over into your real life. You're either jerks or extremely quiet/boring and generally awkward to be around.
>Cornered, resorting to personal attacks. Refusal to back down. Unwilling to accept that what she did isn't viewed as acceptable.

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 16 00:25:43 2008 No.1312185 >>1312176 I did. Check the e-mail address that you don't own for it.

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 16 00:26:25 2008 No.1312189 >>1312178 see >>1312170

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 16 00:26:25 2008 No.1312190 >>1312148 That's still no excuse for not using your brain. You probably think the brain doesn't have any blood in it because it floats around in your skull all day.

>>	sage for the sage god sage man Tue Sep 16 00:26:34 2008 No.1312191 File: 58 KB, 720x821, 1221524794665.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>1312166 Congratulation's. You're a moron.

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 16 00:28:03 2008 No.1312197 >>1312191 You are a tremendous faggot. Please lurk for another 2-3 weeks before you post again, unless filling an /r/. Even then, post the link and no other text.

Anonymous Tue Sep 16 00:30:03 2008 No.1312207

>>1312191
Says the guy using a "at first I was like" image.

>>1312189
I'm pretty sure it's a penis, and I don't want to see it. I have my reasons.

>>1312190
Maybe if I took medical classes or biology. Comp Science doesn't require me to know that a penis contains blood.

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 16 00:33:22 2008 No.1312221 >>1312207 It's a medical drawing. Nothing explicit. Feel free to examine.

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 16 00:33:22 2008 No.1312223 OP here. What the hell happened to my thread?

Anonymous Tue Sep 16 00:33:37 2008 No.1312225
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>>1312207

You shouldn't need to take specialized classes to know that human appendages contain blood. YOU are reinforcing the stereotype that all women are dumbasses. Good going.

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 16 00:34:55 2008 No.1312230 File: 56 KB, 371x480, 1221525295152.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >better than most books

sage for the sage god sage man Tue Sep 16 00:35:40 2008 No.1312237
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>>1312207
>>1312197

DOHOHOHOHOHOHOHOHOHOHOHOHO

In all frankness, you are not fooling anyone.
This isn't for some noble goal, this is you just being some worthless moron who has a massive superiority complex.

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 16 00:35:48 2008 No.1312238 File: 56 KB, 886x592, 1221525348039.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>1312207 Why don't you want to see a penis? TOO MUCH MAN FOR YOU?

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 16 00:35:54 2008 No.1312240 I really wish I had not looked at this thread.

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 16 00:36:27 2008 No.1312244 >>1312225 I can't help it if I was lead to believe otherwise. Blame the American education system and my parents for taking me out of it.

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 16 00:37:13 2008 No.1312249 Why the fuck did this thread turn into /b/?

Anonymous Tue Sep 16 00:38:56 2008 No.1312255
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>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 16 00:39:08 2008 No.1312258 >>1312238 Because if I ever see one I want it to be the real thing, and I'm not interested in seeing some random guy's hairy penis.

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 16 00:39:56 2008 No.1312260 >>1312255 This thread is like green tea?

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 16 00:40:39 2008 No.1312264 File: 29 KB, 337x404, 1221525639440.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Why are the most interesting threads on /jp/ always the ones that get hijacked?

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 16 00:41:00 2008 No.1312267 File: 13 KB, 334x366, 1221525660858.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >better than most books Hah. But I'd like to see somebody at least try to turn Neverwhere into VN. Hell, it might turn out interesting.

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 16 00:41:56 2008 No.1312271 ◑ ◔ ╔═╗ ║▓▒░░░░░░░░░░░░░ ╚═╝

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 16 00:42:29 2008 No.1312272 >>1312260 I don't think that's tea, anonymous.

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 16 00:42:29 2008 No.1312274 >>1312244 >I CAN'T RESEARCH THINGS ON MY OWN Yep, typical lazy American.

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 16 00:43:48 2008 No.1312280 >>1312272 What is it then?

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 16 00:43:48 2008 No.1312282 OP is a troll starting a troll thread and is now trolling you guys by pretending to be a cumdumpster.

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 16 00:44:21 2008 No.1312285 File: 49 KB, 500x781, 1221525861230.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] First VN ever.

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 16 00:44:27 2008 No.1312287 >>1312274 I could, I just choose not to. Besides, I already learned otherwise.

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 16 00:46:13 2008 No.1312301 >>1312282 It's creepy how correct you are. You know me far too well, anon.

Anonymous Tue Sep 16 00:50:00 2008 No.1312327

You're on an anonymous board so use the anonymity i.e. shut up and fade away. Stop making other females look stupid just because you can't shut up.

Back to the topic, VNs' bad stigma comes from the fact that a majority of them are porn. Given how conservative society (liberalization didn't change shit) still is on sexuality, it shouldn't be a surprise that people treat VNs like they do lepers.

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 16 00:51:00 2008 No.1312330 ITT: no girls

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 16 00:53:00 2008 No.1312346 >>1312280 Urine.

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 16 00:59:38 2008 No.1312399 >>1312330 I acknowledge that there are girls on /jp/, in return they can just shut up about it.

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 16 01:07:38 2008 No.1312446 Hey, faggots. What about Planetarian? Huh? That's what I thought. Faggots.

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 16 01:12:21 2008 No.1312477 >>1312446 Ever 17 > KEY

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 16 01:16:21 2008 No.1312505 >>1312446 Generic post apocalyptic crap with moe BETTER THAN FUCKING JULES VERNE

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 16 01:17:32 2008 No.1312518 >>1312505 Pretty much, yeah.

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 16 01:18:26 2008 No.1312524 File: 77 KB, 646x849, 1221527906820.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>1312518

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 16 02:05:08 2008 No.1312774 >>1312524 sage for alpaca

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 16 02:18:20 2008 No.1312838 >>1312207 If part of the body doesn't have blood flow, it can't get the oxygen and other nutrients it needs to keep on living. It's a basic biological concept, and I don't to be male in order to realize that a penis no exception to the rule.

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 16 13:09:33 2008 No.1315011 File: 5 KB, 203x151, 1221570573849.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>1312838 >If part of the body doesn't have blood flow, it can't get the oxygen and other nutrients it needs to keep on living. Hallo.

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 16 13:11:58 2008 No.1315013 >>1315011 Osmosis?

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 16 13:12:04 2008 No.1315015 >>1315011 Did you really need to age a shitty thread and reply to a post from 11 hours earlier just so you could show off your knowledge of biology on an Anonymous imageboard?

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 16 13:13:03 2008 No.1315019 >>1315015 Yes.

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