/jp/ - Otaku Culture

Done some drawings tonight, Neptune and Suika-chan are my favorites.

>>12831933
You don't seem very /jp/...

Merry Christmas, /jp/. I tried today.

>>12832325
I thought you were exiled for good.

>>12832325
Pretty cute

>>12832325
Merry Christmas!

>>12832271
Should I make them all oppai or something?

>>12832802
Draw nep getting fugged by a gross fat man, I won't accept your /jp/sie-ness otherwise

I tried again, /jp/. Request from the better chan.

>>12832946
I'm not the fan of the meme character but your art is nice

>>12832325
>>12832946
Study the human ear.

>>12832946
>>12832325
Oh, it's I tried-san. Long time no see!

>>12832946
Are you afraid to draw hands?

>>12832325
Nice colouring, but the nose is approaching tumblr territory.

>>12833085
i love my mom

I tried again.

>>12832968
Thanks, anonymous.

>>12832974
Will do, thanks for the reminder!

>>12832991
No, even though I'm not very good at it.

>>12833037
:^)

>>12833155
Drawing based on a screencap. I tried.

>>12832946
>>12832946
>better chan
I've heard that they're looser with "donations."
Is the other chan ripe grounds for easy commish? It seems like that's what you're angling for.

Also it's hard to shake the feeling that vj is a tomoko clone

>>12832968
please explain the meme

Why is this entire thread /v/ meme shit?

>>12833191
Meme gate is the meme
This character is the mascot

>>12833331
Memes are the lifeblood of The Gay.

I'm taking drawing requests.

Music project anon, I promised to deliver before new year, but my headphones arrived only today, and I'm unable to squeeze any music out of me currently. So I'll take the longer deadline in account. I'm still eager to participate..

>>12833331
Why are you not contributing with non-/v/ shit, then?

P-Please be gentle. I've stopped drawing for some time, and only got back into it recently.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ow7FUfCO5o0

>>12833486
This drawing is not anything outstanding, there is no reason to FILM it being done. I prefer you'd post the picture instead.

>>12833480
Could you draw irisu? Irisu from the puzzle game.

>>12833501
Sorry, I was just thinking of more methods to engage with viewers...

Have another done in the past. Am taking draw requests, but I'm still learning.

>>12833486
Why do you take so much time to do lines when you could do them in one stroke? Specially when you're gonna draw over them anyways.
And why don't you learn to draw properly?

>>12833502
I'd also like to see Irisu

>>12833517
Apologies, but like you mentioned, I've never really learned how to draw properly. Thanks for the tip.

>>12833532
You took it surprisingly good. I'd recommend checking the /ic/ sticky and browsing the archives for any question.

>>12833539
I've received worse from /ic/... I'd admit I feel down, but a drive to improve, nonetheless.

finished >>>12833243

>>12833679
nice hands

>>12833502 >>12833528
Interesting character and game, too bad it's impossible to find an actual gameplay in neo-YouTube, with all those niggers "reviewing" it.

hi jp
I'm working on the background and fixing up her body a little! Have a merry christmas !!!

>>12833792
I'll treasure this drawing in my heart forever.

>>12833830

Actually quite a bit. Her chest is all wrong, as well as her legs too I think. I'm hoping to be able to make prints for my local convention! Maybe someone will buy my stuff.

The ref picture with a better look is attached.

>>12833841
Main issue to me seems to be the crossed leg.

Everything else is acceptable. That's a curious workflow, you always finish part by part like this? I'd go insane trying to keep consistency.

oh shit man I'm so happy

I thought I would never amount to anything in art and threw away my shit because I was so unhappy about it

but then I started from the basics and began practicing construction, and understanding shapes

I'm actually learning now

>>12833792
It's free to download if you'd like to play it.

I did this to keep myself awake for christmas, I know proportions look fucked up but I liked this considering I was barely awake the whole time.

>>12834245
Left's head is a little smaller for the size of her eye.
Right's torso looks a little too thin.
Other than that, they look very good for me.

>>12833889
Congratulations

>>12834257
Thanks, I knew the torso was too thin, I usually have that problem when I want to empathize an hourglass figure, but I guess I tend to exaggerate on that. I just don't want them to look like a triangle, you know.

>>12834274
Square, I mean square.

>>12833679
Nice. Left wrist is a little weird though.

>>12834245
Hey you
Teach me how to design outfits, you seem to be good at that from the drawings you posted

hey /jp

everybody have a good x-mas?

>>12834503
I did until /u/ came along.

>>12834245
I like the coloring

>>12834458
I just spend a lot of time looking at concept artworks, like from videogames and stuff, or look at pixiv artists I admire to get inspiration. I have a particular soft spot for frills and cutesy stuff so most of my designs revolve around that. It also helps a lot to study color theory.

What does /jp/ think of my status/bio window?

Which French cutie do you like the best?

I am sexually aroused by little girls. What should I do?

>>12835661

You should draw cute and sexy little girls, then.

Or you could play >>12835650 when I release a demo in about a week.

How little are the girls that arouse you?

>>12835650
Uhm, pretty specific stats.

>>12835650
Perfect for playing F.A.T.A.L.

>>12835730

FATAL's vaginal circumference formula is too simplistic. Mine at least takes into account:
age, puberty progression, body size, genetics, etc for the base size. (stretching/etc is applied afterwards)

FATAL's was just based on whether you were a human, orc, etc and on which age-bracket (which were very wide brackets).


Although since adding in the genetic component I seem to have fucked something up, as it's giving this cute 13yo French girl (who is super cute and blonde and wearing a blue school uniform which compliments her hair colour!!) a 2" circ vag/ass. That is is unreasonably tight for a 13yo. I'll have to debug to see what happened.

>>12835738
Would it be difficult to include a switch for metric units?

>>12835826

It's already there. I store all my values in metric anyway, and only convert them to imperial for display (if the user has it set to imperial mode).

>>12833866
yeah I start with the part feel I got right! Otherwise I go crazy wanting to color. I know it's a bad habit. Oof.

>>12835650
Laura a fat, holy shit.

>>12834503
This art needs at least one more quote, I really like it. Specially sitted girl's hair and hands.

I want these loli lips to touch something indecent

>>12836396
That almost complete lack of line width...

>>12836400
Hey, line width variation otaku here too! What's up?

>>12836418
I didn't say anything about variation. With animation that should be reserved for special occasions.
Just more line width, or thickness whatever you want to call it, would be fine.

>>12836347
>Laura a fat, holy shit.

88lbs is fat?

http://halls.md/chart-girls-weight-w/

88lbs is perfectly average for a 11 year old caucasian girl.

>>12836476
>88lbs is fat?

Even by USA standards, it's pretty chubby.

>>12836542

I think you're confusing 88lbs with 88kg...

>>12836476
Let's see, she's 140 cm and 40 kilos. That means she's a bit above average in weight and a bit below average in height, therefore the chubbiness (for a kid).
Sarah is the fattest though, at 152 cm / 49kg, but she stays near the middle line in both aspects.

Being skinny as fuck myself, at 167 cm and 48 kg, I wouldn't want into these non-petites, but for someone with a bigger body that'd be fine.

>lbs
>kg
Holy shit, why can't the USA just use the SI unit for mass, like the rest of the world?

>>12836563
SI units are for people too dumb to multiply by numbers other than ten

>>12836566
I just took a look at the different imperial units for mass. It's a fucking mess. Having a simple system is not dumb, wasting time with a confusing system is. If we go by your argumentation, then people should shower using acid, because using water is for people not tough enough to stand it.

Merry christmas /jp/! here's an android.

Took 4 whole days to finish the illustration for the contest.
happy holidays /jp/ .

>>12836563
Why can't the rest of the world use imperial units? It's not like it matters what you use to measure if everything is consistent. Do you think water based temperature measurement is somehow superior too? For that matter why do things in SI still use time that's divided in the same way as imperial units instead of time that's based in 10s?

>>12836555
Are you a pedo because you're physically a child yourself?

>>12837190
I'm no pedo though. Hebe/ephebophile at best, but non-exclusive. I just prefer skinny, short and flat women in general, whatever the age.

I'm not the anon who originally complained about the imperial system, but he's right. France attempted to adopt a decimal hour system once, but people didn't want to give up on the traditional system they were already used to, just like the US is resistant to SI.

I once developed a decimal calendar with 10 months and 10-day weeks, along with a decimal hour system. I asked several people their opinion on it and they would just find it bad because it was not like the current system. Even though our current system has 31/30/29/28 days per month arbitrarily and whatnot.

>>12837276
Man, the amount of work it would take to remake the calendar.

It's needed, though.

>>12834877
Your color drawings have set my expectations too high. I'm not satisfied anymore with only your line art.

>>12835650
When's the playable demo?

>>12833480
Ah, I believe you, it's the same here. Don't worry about it; you'll definitely get in at this pace.

As for the update, nothing new so far as the holiday season passes. You know how you were looking forward to the holiday season so you could "get some 'real' work done"? Delusion.

>>12837187
Cute. You've colored her clothes in a very interesting way. They look really shiny.

>>12837300
Keep your expectations high, I have grand plans for this one. However, grand plans take time so the sketch is here to say I haven't buggered off. I can refrain from it if it's too unseemly, though.

>>12837276
With time the length of a day and a year are set through reality by their definition. But then 365 days make a year, so that already makes it not a decimal system. You also can't distribute 365 days evenly on 10 months. I doubt as long as we are on earth it's going to be changed.

I need some help here, tell me what kind of game to make, otherwise I'm drawing a blank
http://strawpoll.me/3239059

>>12838079
What kind of games have you made before?

>>12837385

In less than a week probably. What exactly are your expectations on what you would be able to do and stuff like that?

>>12838089
I usually give up before that, it's hard to stay motivated when nobody is interested

>>12838101

Why did you put RPG and Online things in there? Do you have any idea of scope?

>>12838105
I just made a poll, not a game or promise to make a specific game

>>12837801
I'm aware of that, we're bound to Earth's rotation and translation. My solution was something like that:

9 months of 40 days;
4 weeks of 10 days;
1 month of 5 days (6 on leap years);

It is a bit arbitrary, since we should work with the 365 basis, but it's really easy to calculate dates with this.
05/06 in current system is 31+28(9)+31+30+31+5.
In the new model, it'd be 40+40+40+40+40+5.

The time of the day has no need to stay at 24 hours, since a second's tick is also arbitrarily defined as 9,1 billions of radiation periods of Cesium 133. You just recalculate it in a way to divide the day in 10 hours of 100 minutes and 100 seconds.

>>12838079
You should pick 3 to 5 you're really eager to produce, this will scatter opinions too much. I for one voted on at least 5.

>>12838101
>>12838124
Just make a pac-man game. All you have to do is display a maze and make a loli go up, down, left, and right and collect the items until they're gone. Toss in some creepy guys and girls that chase her and there you go.

>>12838191
No need for creepy guys, make the ghosts lesbian little girls who will do lewd things to the heroine if they catch her.

>>12838198
No, that's dumb. Next you'll want them to have dicks even though they're little girls.

It's better to have adult female lesbo pedos as well as guys.

Actually if it's going to be lewd, it'd be better as /ss/.

>>12837181
She's kinda healthy for an android

>>12833480
What headphones did you get?

Also bit late but hey happy late christmas

>>12833679
Nice! (arms tho)

>>12837187
Holy crap that's great, though is that lens flare supposed to be a metal handle or sheath?

Either way great stuff, got a link to the contest?

Finally finished the song sketch I posted last thread. https://soundcloud.com/misakoisaqt/if-youre-an-angel-you-will-suffocate-on-earth

As always, enjoy, and tell me what you think!

>>12838954
Pretty nice.
I would like it better if you replaced the vocaloid with a real instrument until you can get a real voice.

>>12838994
Do you think my songs would be more accessible/people would like them more if I was actually singing them?

I plan to add my vocals eventually, these just serve as rough sketches for the moment. But I fear many people are turned away instantly as soon as they hear whiny miku.

famitracker arrangement of a song I made earlier this year
https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/30614076/mp3/rmitvobp.mp3

>>12839060
>Do you think my songs would be more accessible/people would like them more if I was actually singing them?
Absolutely.

>>12839095
I like it very much!
Can you post the original?

>>12839101
Thanks. Here's the original: https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/30614076/mp3/rmitvobp_original.mp3

>>12839099
Okay, I'll make some effort at getting my vocals recorded then. I take it the melody/composition/lyrics were good?

>>12839107
I didn't recognized it until you posted. Honestly, the chiptune version sounds ten times better, in the sense that you can really hear what's going on.

>>12839114
It was good enough to keep me listening to the end, and that's really saying something. About the lyrics, I don't particularly care about them but they seem fine.

>>12839129
Alright, thank you for the input!

>>12839151
I had written a somewhat long post about what I would have liked to be changed after giving it arelisten but I stupidly lost it. Summarily, it would be nice if the drum patter varied more, because I think they are too uniform. The rising bass part at 3:42 sounds extremely discordant and ugly, even though it's somewhat hard to hear. It would have been nice if you deceptively substituted a chord just before the last sixth of the song for dramatic effect, ideally at 4:03. But that is more about personal taste, so you can ignore me.

>>12839317
>The rising bass part at 3:42 sounds extremely discordant and ugly
It is. I haven't learned my scales yet so I try to refrain from improvising fills (which usually result in something off key like that) but I get into playing it and can't help myself. I hate having a bass part that is too uniform, like the drums. I tried adding more crashes for dynamics and fills, but it really felt like the song needed to maintain that constant disco-y groove. I did implement a 16th hi-hat beat at the end for increased urgency though.

And I'll try that. I'm still learning and getting a feel for writing songs, so I'm hesitant to break from a good sounding progression out of fear I'm making potentially bad sounding changes just for changes sake.

The one thing I'm curious about is, provided I sing the songs, do you think my tracks would work in a live setting? With a drummer/bassist/guitarist? I don't care if people think the songs are weird, I just wonder if they'd translate to a rock band well.

>>12838225
Either your opinions are wrong, or it's opposite day today.

>>12839369
>I'm hesitant to break from a good sounding progression out of fear I'm making potentially bad sounding changes just for changes sake.
When you feel like the listener gets accustomed to the chord progression, you can replace chords, but don't over do it too much if you are new to this.

>do you think my tracks would work in a live setting?
I don't know how would you go about translating the strings and pads along the piano to a live setting, but it seems feasible.

>>12839471
Yea, that's the one problem I have to figure out. I know a similar band who plays the main keyboard part and just plays the other layers with a sampler, but that introduces the trouble of keeping your tempo in time with that.

You've been a great help, I appreciate it.

>>12839511
Now that I think about it, the easiest way would be to do a live playable arrangement of your song. You will have to say goodbye to one/some of your instruments though.

>>12838825
That shining part is a hidden katana inside the umbrella frame.
The name of the contest is "KADOKAWA×pixiv「学生戦争プロジェクト」" , you can find it on Pixiv's main page.

>>12839467
You just need to go back to /u/.

>>12839565
That's probably what I'll have to do. A lot of my songs are built using that synth wall of sound though, so I hope it doesn't lose impact.

(・-・)

Dreamt of apples and now I don't know where to go from here.

I kind of wanted to do something new year related, but I'm not sure what I could change. 2015 is year of the sheep, right?

>>12839821

If I were to finish that I would make a worm come out of the apple she is holding since she looks surprised. Have a batch of apples in a sack or basket here her crotch is and have one leg rest on the batch of apples. You're probably going to have to change where she is looking a bit. Also I would give her a cute dress and laying on a picnic blanket with various fruits she picked.

"the oc threads on /jp/ have pretty good artists" someone wrote. I guess he was drunk

>>12841369
Heh

I never have any idea how to go along with coloring and shading, it feels so foreign to me.

>>12839821
Cute stumbling dude.

>>12841369
I could draw really well if I spend at least 2-4 hours on something.

>>12841693
Yeah, color is hard. On the other hand, you've got some other issues to worry about.
Her head doesn't sit on her neck properly. I also think there might be something wrong with her face's perspective. It looks like deltoid is missing from her shoulder. Legs may be a little too short.
The firecrotch is a nice touch, though.

Sorry if this sounds too rough. I just wanted to help.

>>12838954

You really got to get used to using vocaloid a lot more.
So far the vocals sound really bland and thin.
As well as the instrumental work, which I suppose consists of vst?

The overall composition is fine, but kinda boring to be honest. Sound-wise it doesn't really fit my tastes, so maybe that's just me, but a little bit more variation would do you good, I think.
Even if it's just a change of beat.

>>12839897
I see where you're going, and I think it's lovely and all, but I don't think I could draw that amount of objects. I'll keep those in mind tho and try to figure things out, eventually.

>>12841693
Y-You too.

I just remembered that Ucchi's first album came out just recently. I knew there was a reason behind the apples. (●・ 8 ・●)
Anyway, I still have to think about what to do with this, and whether or not I'm going to stick with the idea.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HCwwAAWv_DI

>>12841812
What I came up with so far.

>>12841818

Damn anime physics. Looks nice so far.

>>12841369
The ocean is a lovely place, but flotsam and jetsam are unimpressive.

i wonder if it's too early to post a chart?
got a tablet in may which helped a lot. it's kind of depressing when you only have two options for a month. looks better than last year though!

>>12842073
did you used to draw with a mouse or a trackpad?

>>12842073
Isn't this kind of pointless if you're using 12 different art directions?
It's impossible monitor your growth like this.

>>12842073
Can you post last year's?

>>12842148
i used to draw with a mouse, yeah
>>12842159
i don't have one "art direction". i didn't realize it'd be that different from one another.
>>12842170

>>12842073
Everytime these things get posted I realize how lazy I've been.

>>12842159
In my opinion it only makes sense as improvement check when you start out, grind a lot or concentrate on one subskill or theme of drawing/painting. Otherwise it still makes sense but more as a sort of recap, to see what you've done around the year. So more a fun thing I guess.

Holy fuck, this year was utter shit.
October was the only month I've really put an effort into anything. Thanks to /jp/ I could at least fill the second half of the year, thank you.

>>12842249
This. I don't think I've drawn anything for an entire year or two.

>>12841808
Yea, I'm still very new to vocaloid. I've been getting better though, at using vibrato and dynamics to make it not sound so sterile. A lot of people don't like my high pitched whiny tuning, though I'm trying to replicate this: https://watashinokoko.bandcamp.com/track/--25

I think it sounds pretty close.

The guitar and bass in my songs are the actual instruments, but everything else is from my keyboard or sample banks. My keyboard is very cheap, so it doesn't sound very good, but it's all I have to make do with. As far as sounding bland and thin, I have limited mastering knowledge.

>>12842303
>I think it sounds pretty close.
Soundwise, yes. Compositionally, his tracks are more mature, for a lack of a better word. His uses of harmony are very rich and the form of that track is very satisfying. While yours plays it more safe.
>I have limited mastering knowledge
I think the word you meant is mixing.

>>12842353
No, mixing is spatially placing and orienting instruments and sounds, adjusting their volumes, to have them all mesh well in the mix. Mastering would be stuff like compression, EQ, limiting, etc. that would give it a fuller and more rounded sound.

I do play it safe though, I'll try to be more interesting and varied in my future songs.

>>12842303
I don't think what you do sounds much like that . Maybe it's the English library, but your Miku has too much consonants, too many words, while he does it more minimalistically and with lots of vowel sustains.
Also articulation needs some work, do you edit the pitch curve on single syllables? That might help you.

The music is very lovely, I personally prefer a Miku than some common vocals on it, but I'm a very specific demographic, even in /jp/'s standards Miku sounds annoying for a fat share of people. If you want to make your songs more accessible (and intelligible for that matter), sing them yourself.

>>12842276
that's pretty lazy

>>12842378
>Mastering would be stuff like compression, EQ, limiting, etc. that would give it a fuller and more rounded sound.
That could be still mixing, if not applied to the master.

>>12842396
>If you want to make your songs more accessible (and intelligible for that matter), sing them yourself.
Yea, all I intend for miku is for her to act like a sort of placeholder. I live with a lot of people, so practicing and singing my songs isn't really feasible, so this gives me an opportunity to work on and write my songs I wouldn't have otherwise.

Of course I want her to sound good in the meantime, but I understand a lot of people think negatively of vocaloid, and are probably turned away from my songs as soon as they hear that chipmunk voice.

And yea, I think that problem lies in the differences between Japanese and English. It seems easier to express notions lyrically in Japanese with far less use of syllables, where in English you really have to string together a lot of words. Especially since I want my lyrics to express a lot, and not be very simple. It's hard making it semi-complex, but just enough words to fit a melody.

Here's one song that does have my singing: https://ifyoureanangelyouwillsuffocateonearth.bandcamp.com/track/cease-to-exist

Please excuse my absolute lack of pitch. A lot of people who have heard the song said they enjoyed how amateur and off-key it sounded however, and said my voice was cute. So maybe if I sang with more enthusiasm, it could be a good improvement to my songs.

>>12842418
Ahh. As I said I'm not very knowledgeable in either field.

http://vocaroo.com/i/s0GfsjdOAr0w

Did this for christmas, I need more practice T^T

>>12838954
your song is cool, post your stems

the .wav of each instrument track

>>12839577
Voted. Hope you win!

Hello /jp/. I'm not sure why I'm posting this but I wrote some Vocaloid Italodisco. Suppose I'd like fun with other Vocaloid producers but honestly, I'm thinking of stopping. I'm steadily starting to despise Vocaloid. Hell, maybe this might be the final nail in the coffin.

https://soundcloud.com/shinatama/kmvt21vinxmp

>>12842973
Not bad, but it's missing something, Needs more synth and melody, and maybe a bit more variation in the bassline as well.

hey /jp/, anybody here successfully made "anime" 3D models?

I know how to use modelling programs, but moving 2D art into 3D is such a pain, especially for "anime-style" art.

I'm trying to keep the polys down because the model is going to be in a game, and there are going to be more than 300 of that at a time. Making the hair and properly texturing it is stupidly difficult.

>inb4 go to /3/
It is a slow board and I've tried. It is not the right place to ask for "anime" 3D. Since "キャラクターをつくろう! 3DCG日和" is not uploaded, it is hard to find easy and simple yet quality tutorials.

So how does one manage to make decent "anime" 3D? Is there a specific search term or free online (preferably Japanese) decent tutorials to achieve this?

Also, please c-comment on attached file. It's the last time I've ever drawn. Similar proportions is what I'd like to reach in 3D.

>>12843041
Go ask in /e/'s or /jp/'s MMD threads or something.

In honor of the new figure pre-order.

>>12843115
What's wrong with her thighs?

>>12843121
Disproportionate, as they should be.

>>12842973
>https://soundcloud.com/shinatama/kmvt21vinxmp

>>12843017
Definitely missing the bass + acid arp
Syncopate that bass, no one ever plays it as eighths throughout

also some funk guitars wouldn't hurt too

>>12843115
Why is she shaking

>>12843311
looks more like wiggling

>>12842800
https://www.mediafire.com/?7byrfd4nqlu8ozl

It's all in .ogg, there's almost 40 stems and I'm not uploading several gigabytes. The quality loss should be negligible though.

Are you going to try mixing it?

>>12843311
Hips are gonna burst.

>>12842435
DUDE, your pitch a shit, is that somehow intentional? Sometimes it really feels original when you sing it off, I can see that, but that should be just a once in a while thing with overall more solid singing, like Denpa does.

I'd say your problem (judging by this track) is half lack of enthusiasm (as you pointed) and half hitting the notes. I know how hard it can be getting your voice out as training, specially living with other people, I'm always concerned about disturbing others.
I owe part of my okay singing skills to the days where I would go to university by foot and sing out loud amidst the traffic, where no one could hear me.
If you can have moments like this, do eet.

Besides all that, I still think people will prefer you singing than Miku.

>>12842518
I see you did a slight pan on the voices to make it a duet, but you should try, instead, making one hollow and the other centered. Put a chorus and fiddle with the Stereo degrees, you'll see how it goes.

>>12842973
You fucker, don't you dare stop Vocaloiding, it sounds fun as hell.
Less reverb on her voice and it will do fine, I really dig the happy percussion combined with her singing. German, right? What is it about?
I'm torn between adding a slapping bass or brasserie in your song to make it a bit more lively, but you're in the right path, keep it up.

>>12843942
I'd say it's half intentional, because I love singers that just sound disgusting and really go crazy, so I'm not really worried about sounding that clean, but I was very pitch deaf when I recorded that. I've been practicing a ton and getting more confident with it since then, improving my control and singing with in my range instead of straining.

The problem with the lack of enthusiasm is I'm very very autistic about recording vocals when I know people can hear me. My friend was upstairs in his room when I recorded that so it made me super awkward and hesitant (as you can hear in my screams). That is the biggest hurdle I have to get over and when I do, I think my performance will improve immensely.

Whenever I hang with my friends I play guitar and sing, which has really helped.

Also, when I talk about disgusting singers, I mean like this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qovS8CWlb5M He's my biggest inspiration.

>>12844069
Well, this again falls into the accessibility issue; the off key singing is more of a niche thing.

This is something I think you could do to please both worlds:
http://vocaroo.com/i/s1YbY3LQBSbi (Guitar Wolf - Neppu Jiro/Hot Air Jiro)
And I saw this band the other day, which is pretty much not hitting notes all along, and it's still pretty popular:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7rOcYi_y0a8 (la dispute - andria)

Whatever you decide, do it with strong intent, no chance of recording when you're playing with your friends? Maybe that's a good environment to let your lungs out.

Made another cute girl with ribbon today. Video if anyone interested. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7yVyKDOkbw8

>>12844370
I'm fine with that. As catchy and accessible as I want it to be I still want it to be weird and off-putting. I just don't want there being an aspect (vocaloid) that turns off most people before they even give it a chance and imparts negative expectations on what they assume it is.

Recording when I'm with my friends is actually the only time I have an opportunity to do that. I plan on going over Tuesday so I'll try recording some, and hopefully I'll have some stuff to show you guys.

>>12844451
Cute! I'd be interested in seeing how you start sketching your poses and your base sketch.

>>12843456
yeah

your song is really good

I tried drawing a Kaguya the other day. Coloring is still tricky for me.

>>12834503
Do you have a pixiv?

>>12842435
>If You're An Angel, You Will Suffocate on Earth
Lol
>Detroit, Michigan
Lol
>Your lyrics
Lol

Seriously go somewhere and sing properly instead of like a shy nerd with a cracking pubertal voice.

Christmas time sucks because it means I can't work on things (plus I did a few other things). Although I finally got back into the groove of working on my game. It took a little while because I didn't program for a week so I forgot what little I knew.

It fades to black and moves the player to a place still on the same scene. I intend to do this to anything else that may be important just because I find the idea of going to an entirely different scene excessive to do for minor stuff PLUS I'd have to create a bunch of variables of r things when changing between scenes which is ass. I'd much rather take the path of least resistance.

This means I can now add all the caves and secret areas I could ever want into a level. I think in the end I'd like to make it so the transition is a bunch of slowly turning squares that grow in size instead of just fading but that requires learning more about programming.

>>12833792
I'm another happy anon, thanks for drawing this. Irisu needs more love.

>>12845017
Cute. Your coloring skills are better than mine.

>>12845262
your game is cute and i would like to subscribe to your webzone

>>12845323

I only have a tumblr and I don't really like that site.

>>12843017
>>12843182
Thanks guys. I was really fancying funk guitars and a slap bass ironically, but I told myself not to, I was trying to stick with lo-fi synths and but I'm thinking of trying it again with slap and funk guitars. Any recommended synths?

>>12843942
It was in English but using Maika. So it was heavily accented, probably too much. The song lyrically is a metaphor using getting lost in a beautiful beach city for getting lost in your thoughts. Everybody else is saying the same thing and I'm kind of torn, I was aiming for a more Gary Low 'I Want You' kind of feel which is more chilled out Eurodisco track but I'm interested in doing something more funk based.

>>12845332
1. no one forces you to interact with the human trash dwelling there even if you update
2. you can just make a page somewhere else. sincerely, I'd like to follow your progress without having everytime to dip in the bucket of shit these threads have become.

>>12846831
What's so wrong with the thread that you want to start a little circlejerk around that guy? Too much music discussion for you? What?

>>12842303
Well, what you are trying to replicate really isn't my thing either then. I like it a lot more if artists actually make Vocaloid sound somewhat clean, like - For instance - Utsu-P, who is my favourite Vocaloid-artist.
Otherwise, nobody gets close to Mitchie-M, who manages to make her sound like an actual human while maintaining the original Vocaloid-vibe.

As for the instrument tracks, but do you use to record your guitar and bass? It sounds just too weak.
Are you mixing it so quiet because there is noise in the background or for style?
If the recording is somewhat clear of noise, I'd recommend simply using multiple copies of the same track, up to two or three.

>>12842435
To be honest with you, if that is your singing voice, you really should stay with Vocaloid. Dirty singing is all well and good, I like it as well, depending on how hard it is off-pitched. Because really, even dirty vocals need to blend inside the overall composition. And sometimes the completely disregard of that can lead to rather weird results. Concerning your example, yet again, I don't like that, even though it becomes bearable and even somewhat nice-sounding after the second half, when he doesn't really scream like a pig being slain.

So I guess I can't really give you too much an advice on your singing, since the is a different in taste. But I still recommend trying to do it a little less off-pitch. Honestly, that teeny-weenie voice of yours made me want to punch you sometimes, even though, the music itself is fine, even if a little boring.

>>12839775
That's a pretty cute drawing.
>>12839821
That's very cute.
>>12841693
Cute Koishi, bro.
>>12842540
I think that's quite a cute drawing, anon.
>>12843115
Nice thighs there, anon.
>>12845017
What a cutie.

>>12847008
>>12845270
Thank you both

>>12844827
Thank you! I look forward to hearing it.

>>12846986
I record my guitar and bass line-in. I do record multiple overdubs of guitar to make it stereo, but the reason it's so quiet is because there are so many instruments and things going on in most of the song. The guitar isolated is very loud and powerful so if I were to raise it too much in the mix it would overwhelm everything and make the song tiring and fatiguing to listen to. So I sort of push it to the background as a texture. Less busy songs I have it in the foreground and dominant when needed.

Even though I want my singing to be a little off-key, I will admit that it's bad. I've really been working to improve and anything else I record won't be that unenthusiastic sounding and like a "shy pre-puberty nerd". I'm sorry you didn't like my voice, but there are people who have told me they do, so I do believe if I can get better control of it I can make good songs with it. People like Jeff Mangum have some of the weirdest, worst singing voices in the world yet they make beautiful songs.

Also, you didn't really like the vocaloid I linked. A lot of the music I take notes from people wouldn't enjoy. It's hard to get constructive criticism when the music that is influencing you would get so much criticism itself.

For example: http://youtu.be/WYGxgYKwBuY?t=44s

Progress chart. First one is January, last one is December. Goes left to right

I posted this guitar sketch before, here is the finished version:
https://soundcloud.com/ibuki-san/treehouse

And here is some new stuff:
https://soundcloud.com/ibuki-san/laze-about

If the anon who recommended that book on melody is around, thanks! This second song was made to test some phrasing after reading the first lesson about not jumping around too randomly on the scale.

>>12847218
You got worse mate.

how do you stop yourself from stopping halfway through the drawing and throwing it out

>>12848161
Perhaps you're unsatisfied with your drawing? I usually couldn't bring myself to throw a drawing out if I like it. How about trying to draw something you like?

>>12848161
keep practicing. least you're good enough to know your drawings aren't up to your personal standards, so just keep working to that

>>12848161
You don't. start over another drawing

>>12846831
I put it on here
http://afridge.tumblr.com/

>>12834503
Hey, I remember your thread, it was on /ic/ or /i/, something like that. I've always really admired your style and composition. Keep it up!

>>12845104
roboham dot blogspot dot

>>12834503
Hey, I remember your thread, it was on /ic/ or /i/, something like that. I've always really admired your style and composition. Keep it up!

>>12845104
roboham dot blogspot dot com

>>12848021
Please tell me how I got worse aside from /jp/ hating popular /a/ shit like KLK

>>12848161
Your earlier work looks more impressive than your later. You lost the airs of confident understanding as you moved chronologically through the chart.

>>12848732
Your earlier work looks more impressive than your later. You lost the airs of confident understanding as you moved chronologically through the chart.

>>12848837
Did you mean to quote >>12848732 ?

>>12848848
So my earlier, sketchier stuff looks better than the more carefully-drawn pictures that I made later in the year?

>>12848859
I don't think you got worse. It looks relatively the same except your linework has gotten cleaner. Your faces look off and your poses look awkward, but don't worry, you're not getting worse.

What are you drawing with? The lines are so thin, and the coloring almost looks like pixel shading.

>>12848859
Admittedly, but it's not you becoming worse. It's just that you are showing an incomplete understanding more firmly. It's the sort of thing, like most things, that will go away with determined practice.

>>12848887
>>12848894
Oh, I understand now. Thanks.

I draw using the default 1px brush at humongous resolutions, view the canvas at 12.5% (instead of using the resize tool) and screenshot it. I don't use the pencil tool except for pixel art. The tools I use are painter 11 and photoshop elements 12, but I'm sure you can achieve similar results in SAI.

>>12847948
>If the anon who recommended that book on melody is around
That's me! I'm seeing improvement but there has always been something a little off-putting about your songs.
Could you post the midi data for the second one?

>>12848965
http://a.pomf.se/miwtxb.mid
Never exported as MIDI before, hope it works.

>>12848954
I think I said your drawings had a flat look when you first posted October's piece. That isn't transpired by the sketchy ones because we tend to mentally "clean" it in a pleasing way, but what you do is to clean it more than necessary. Some line overlapping is necessary to create depth, and some form is lost when you clean, that's natural. What you have to learn is how to lose the least information in this process.

If you clean that February drawing (which is rather simple), I can give you specific feedback on how to treat your lines.

>>12849117
The Kyouko picture was made with a physical mechanical pencil, scanned, cleaned up a bit and colored digitally though. It's meant to look like a sketch

>>12849157
What I meant is you finish it with clean lines like your current projects (October/December ones) so it serves as an example for me to elaborate on the clean-up process.
It's a good one because it's simple and this'll help spotting the impact.

>>12835650
Two more days.

Is this a good looking male appendage?

>>12850697
No, it's a fuggin chode.

>>12849117
>http://a.pomf.se/miwtxb.mid
I see that you like contrapuntal stuff, but the counterpoint here is pretty weak: many parallel fifths and octaves, voices that get lost, many dissonances in a row, that kind of stuff.
Also, you still don't have any regards for harmony. I'm seeing lots of stuff that don't even make sense in pop music, chord retrogressions like I64 to ii.
Don't get discouraged. I used to do the same thing.
http://a.pomf.se/snrlhc.mid
I composed this at the start of the year as an exercise. This is the perfect example of counterpoint without any regards to harmony.
If you'd like, I could write a short tutorial to adress these problems.

>>12850697
look at some real dicks and draw from there

>>12851027
Not the same guy, but I'm interested on that tutorial.

>>12851027
I'm the same guy, and I'm interested on that tutorial.
I'll read the book anyways, so if it's in there, you don't have to overdetail it..

About chord retrogressions, that's probably because I'm not exactly making a thoughtful progression. I just choose a bass sequence (single notes) and add other instrument voices over it. Preferably something that is within a chord range, but without regard for the overall progression. I have always been a "melody person" and it's been only one semester since I started to hear any harmony at all in music.
This one was done with a set chord progression in mind, but I find that very limiting:
https://soundcloud.com/ibuki-san/dusk

>>12851094
Alright, the first thing we need to do is to think harmonically. That is, always having harmony on mind.
If you want to write a melody playing it safe, you need to know how to approach non chord tones that don't make up the part of the harmony (the chord progression), so they don't clash with other notes or the harmony.
Passing notes are non chord tone that appears stepwise between two chord tones, sometimes they are 2 or more in a sucession.
The appogiatura is a non chord tone approached from a leap and resolved in the opposite direction, usually approached by an upwards leap and left in a rythmically strong position (accented).
The neighbour is approached and resolved by the same note, stepwise.
Scape tones are approached by step and resolved by leap, usually unaccented.
The anticipation is just what it sound like.
You don't have to follow these formulas, but they are extremely helpful in counterpoint.
I'll add a second voice in the next post. It'll take me a while.

http://a.pomf.se/muzqpz.mid

The chords in the bass clef is the harmony implied my the melody written explicitly. Even if I remove the chords, you'll still be able to hear them, although a bit different, no sevenths and no inversions.
The progressions here is:
i - V+7 - VI(7) - v6/5 - V/V 4/2 - v6 - V7 with a b10 or #9 - i
Harmony is a extensive topic so I can't help you very much, but I can tell you what kind of progressions sounds bad (to my ears): Rising fifths like V - ii - VI; Rising thirds outside of i - III - v - VII to like ii to IV; V or viiº to anything that doesn't have the tonic in it except other dominant chords like viiº or V/V; ii to I doesn't sound that bad, but it's more of a modal thing.

>>12851508
>The chords in the bass clef is the harmony implied by the melody written explicitly*
I forgot to mention that the first note that aligns with each chord in treble clef is part of the implied harmony.

>>12851498
This one was done with a set chord progression in mind, but I find that very limiting
You just can think of the harmony after you've finished the melody, but if you start to add more notes on top without thinking of harmony you'll end with something that sounds not so good.

I'm not a native so it takes me some time to write a post in english.

>>12851508
Forgot to mention that the diamond notes are the non chord tones, but that's pretty obvious.

>>12851498
If you give me a melody I can harmonize it so you can see what I mean.

is this allowed

>>12851508
I swear, it doesn't me take me this much time to compose.
Counterpoint is pretty easy. You can have two notes sounding at the same time if they both belong to the harmony, and you can move from there to anywhere, as long it doesn't move in parallel motion(both notes go to the same direction contrary to contrary motion, duh) to a perfect octave or a perfect fifth (harmonic intervals), because the voices start to lose independence. Parallel fourths are ok for some reason.
If you want a note that doesn't belong to the harmony to sound at the same time with one that does, it must preferably be approached and left by the formulas in the last post. You can have to non chords tones sounding at the same time as long as they resolve, like two passing notes sounding at the same time.
Hidden fifths and hidden octaves are explained in the image.
If only one voice moves of the two, there will never be a hidden fifth, because there is no parallel motion, this is called oblique motion.
The rest of the image is pretty much self explanatory.
I will apply these things to the melody in the last post, and it'll take a while. If you have any question just ask me.

http://a.pomf.se/upebhv.mid
Sound for reference.

Since there's a lot of music going on right now, I might as well contribute some stuff.

I just recorded some ideas for a song and would like to hear some of your thoughts. I tried to convey kind of a lonely feeling. I think I somewhat managed to do so.

Vocaroo butchered the quality badly.
Everything else is my fault.

http://vocaroo.com/i/s1LTDnmIH4O2

>>12852048
Thanks for taking the time to explain this stuff, I'm learning how to compose myself and I find this really interesting.

>>12852117
You should use clyp.it instead.
It doesn't really sound lonely to me. Nothing wrong with it, except that it sounds a bit muddy.

>>12848541
Thanks

>>12852157
Will do so in the future.

Muddy though, what do you mean?

>>12851981
Wait a minute that bulge

>>12852048
Here we go, hastily put into a daw.
https://clyp.it/i2gooo3y

>>12852381
Forgot to say that I don't recommend using only one harmony per measure like here, because it makes things really complicated. For example, Bach usually changes the harmony every quarter note.

>>12851981
keppok? what are you doing here?

My chart.

>>12852790
You draw faces like the guy who draws muscular rin on /ic/

>>12853478
I don't think that's a compliment, but I'll take it has one!

>>12852790
I look forward to seeing you gradually become a fine bestiality artist.

>>12852381
Damn. That's pretty fucking good considering it's "hastily put together".

Turned this
>>12852117
into this:
https://clyp.it/cz05pyoh

Still a layperson in terms of mixing and mastering. I don't know if it's because of that or because I stayed up for too long, but my head hurts now. So a fair warning, maybe you'll suffer the same.
Otherwise, how is it?

>>12852790
>drawfagging on that chan that shall not be named

>>12852790
You are one of those guys that should quit drawing and find another hobby

>>12855273

That's not nice.

>>12852117

Drumline is so unstructured, stick on the hihat consistently.

>>12855296
/jp/ is not your hugbox.

>>12855448
Thanks.
I think the drums are a bit too prominent, and the lead guitar a bit too muffled.

>>12855490
Meant to quote >>12854274

>>12852381
>https://clyp.it/i2gooo3y

wow that's great
what are the square notes though? ghost notes?

>>12855624
They are non chord tones.

>>12855273
Any specific reason?

>>12855448
You think? I thought it'd be a tad less boring that way, but in the end it's probably not designed to be that way. It's a very simple thing, in the end.

>>12855490
Thanks for your opinion.
I was actually worried about the drums being too quiet, but listening to it without a headache makes clear that they are indeed very prominent.
About the lead guitar, at least for now it's intended. I added a chorus effect on the lead guitar because I couldn't figure out how to get rid of the sound of hitting the high strings properly.
But I will take that in account of course.

Is the overall composition somehow bearable? Do melody and rythm work together fine and is there enough variation to the song?

Happy new year

>>12856106
The latter half looks a bit awkward with those strange movements, but first half is pretty good.

>>12856284
A's spine is reacting to the whiplash wrongly, it's rigid

Piano.

https://soundcloud.com/elemile/ko-i

>>12856284
I think the staff/pole thing is what's fucking it up in the second half, I made it way too elastic. I try to be pretty fast with those, and it ended up like this.

>>12856296
I see it now that you mentioned it. At the time, I was just focusing on the arms.

>>12855888
You suck and have clearly not even a bit of artistic predisposition.
I know this won't make you stop drawing,you'll just keep insisting on wasting your free time into something its obiouvsly not your cup.
find yourself something else damn. you and some other people here needs badly to open the fucking eyes

>>12856472
Why do you care about what other people do with their free time?

>>12856472
>artistic predisposition
So I'm not talented? pheww I thought it would be something worse.

>>12856472
"Predisposition", "talent"... people who think like you are the reason why america has so feel decent artists and musicians compared to Japan and Europe.

>>12856472
Reminder that everything in life is 1% talent 99% hard work

>>12856472

Why don't you post your work?

>>12856472
At least he doesn't have an autistic predisposition

>>12856548

and 99% hard work and 0% talent will never result in good art

>>12856654
Talent is a boost, not a requirement.

>>12856694

>>12856472

if he likes drawing then he should just draw

what is wrong with you

>>12856739
He sounds bitter

>>12852790 is a shitty artist. I wasn't going to say this, but all these people appearing to defend him makes me want to chip in with my opinion too.

I'm not going to be pretentious about it either, nor discriminate because it's full of crappy memes. He's just a shitty artist. I don't believe they can't improve, but he probably won't bother.

>>12856747
more like insane.

>>12856774

you're part of the reason why these threads are dead

>>12856774
I don't think he's very good either, but people like >>12856472 are just so fucking pathetic and bitter sounding. It's like okay, tell him you don't think he's good, tell him what you think is wrong. But don't tell the person that they shouldn't be doing something they obviously enjoy just because you perceive them to bad at it. Who the fuck are you? You're just some angry loser who for some reason feels this personal slight at something you don't like.

They enjoy it, so they will continue to do it. That's a prerequisite for being good at anything. Enjoying it enough to keep continuing when you're terrible and get better.

>>12856885
death before dishonor

>>12856516
>>12856532
>>12856533
>>12856548
>>12856595
>>12856636
>>12856694
>>12856739
>>12856747
>>12856816
>>12856885
>>12856912
>full power shit drawfag defence force
christ guys I'm laughing so fucking hard. cheers

>>12856949
Yea and you're the pathetic fuck insulting people who are actually enjoying and applying themselves to something.

>>12856885
Filling them full of /v/ scum isn't going to fix them, honestly.

>>12856949
I mean, you're the worst kind of loser. Some fucking social reject who no one in real life would probably want to be around, yet ironically thinks he is so much better than everyone. Has nothing better to do with his day but shit all over people who are happily discussing their hobbies, showing off their work and progress, giving pointers to others while he sits alone in his room bitter and doing nothing. Being the little bitch he is, with no talents himself and probably a sad life filled with immense subconscious regret, he attacks others.

And of course, being the pathetic sack of shit you are, you just go "lol guys way to get upset!". And you'll probably reply to this as a joke and tell me I'm mad instead of realizing how fucking sad your life is and how you should just kill yourself. Your family hates you.

>>12857035
Yea but you could be at least constructive and point out why you think it's bad and how you think they should improve. It's up to them to heed that advice and get better, but "god you fucking suck just stop" isn't helping.

>>12857055
>Being the little bitch he is, with no talents himself and probably a sad life filled with immense subconscious regret, he attacks others.
>instead of realizing how fucking sad your life is and how you should just kill yourself. Your family hates you.
The irony is staggering.

>It's up to them to heed that advice and get better, but "god you fucking suck just stop" isn't helping.
What is this, a support group? Nobody in these threads has a duty to help anyone else, even though anyone is free to.

>>12849471

I think I'll post the demo tomorrow.

What should I do today in my remaining day of dev time?

Work on a menu showing stuff about genetics? (Or should I leave it all hidden (for now?))

Fix some bugs?

Add more things for

Make a menu to get lolis to breed with other lolis? (should it only impregnate one? or impregnate both?)

Add this growth animation in (and forbid you from interacting with lolis until fully grown I guess)?

Also, how should i handle time progression *for the demo only*? Should it pass at a rate of x days/second? Should there be a 'advance week/month/year' button somewhere?

>>12857075
No, I'm going to attack you because you've proven yourself to be a hateful person.

And that's another thing I fucking hate. "this isn't a hugbox man!!". Who the fuck said it was? A hugbox would be no negative criticism at all. It'd be posting something awful and going "that's pretty good bud! keep it up and keep trying!" or trying your hardest to find something to compliment while ignoring glaring faults.

You can tell them they suck and be helpful at the same time. "This is shit man, but I think you can do A or B and maybe it'll be better". The point of these threads is to post work, and comment HELPFULLY. How is this a hard concept to grasp? Is your anti-social behavior really that ingrained that you have to be so bitter and angry at anyone who tries to be nice towards another?

>>12857075

I'm not him but writing something constructive actually contributes to the thread

shitposting like you're doing now has absolutely no value

>>12857075
Shitting on other works without providing criticism and attacking them personally is pretty much shitposting.

>>12857099
>No, I'm going to attack you
That wasn't me.

>because you've proven yourself to be a hateful person.
Oh no, somebody call the negative police.

>The point of these threads is to post work, and comment HELPFULLY.
If you put it online you're going to get comments. Some will be negative. Suck it up.

>>12857117

stop posting

>>12857117
>If you put it online you're going to get comments. Some will be negative. Suck it up.
Countless people will be killed by cars today. Do you feel the need to go out run people down just because it's going to happen? Fuck off.

>>12857131
If somebody thinks someone's art is shitty he's perfectly entitled to express his opinion, but if I think you're fat and ugly there are ethical obstacles to simply running you over in the street.

Nice job deleting my post mod. do you think I'm trolling or something?

>>12857094
>Make a menu to get lolis to breed with other lolis?
That seems the most important one. Keep up the good work.

All I want to do is draw cute girls that make people happy but nobody ever says they are even when I think they are and work hard. Whats the point of living anymore?

>>12851508
>>12852048
>>12852381
I'm immensely grateful and overwhelmed right now. I can't grasp all of it, but I can feel a lot of it when listening to the MIDIs, so I have the awkward spots, the sheet music and a book. Once I have digested it, I will give another look at your tutorial and figure the rest of it out.

The main thing I've learned is not to make those parallel fifths, something I recognized from my music because I try to stay in chord tones with both voices to blend them a bit, but your comparisons show how they can be done differently and more pleasing.

My ear is still pretty immature as well, so I'll keep pushing and hearing these subtleties.

You deserve heaven, anon.
>If you give me a melody I can harmonize it so you can see what I mean.

How about you pick one of those you said were wrong? Not sure if you said Merlon Whistle or Around the Hedge, both are very melodic. I can MIDI one for the guinea pigging.
https://soundcloud.com/ibuki-san/around-the-hedge
https://soundcloud.com/ibuki-san/merlon-whistle

>>12857246
Don't give up anon-kun.

>>12857246
post them qt

>>12857094
You would make my New Year's Eve and give me something to do if you posted the demo today, but I know I would be asking too much of you if I said that. It just looks like quite a fun game.

>>12857261
I dont want to. I keep getting bullied every time I post and now even the janny is bullying me.

>>12857208

Should it impregnate both lolis, or just one?

Whose last name should the loli get?

Should I just randomly make one loli the "male" and use that name and make the other one get knocked up?

I just realized if I let two lolis mate, they will always produce females, since there's no Y chromosomes involved.

Then again I don't handle gender, so even the ones with XY still appear and act female.

>>12857282

What time zone are you in? Perhaps I could release it before I go to bed.

Also, what operating system are you on? I haven't tried to compile the game on OSX/Linux, but theoretically it should work. I do have the game compiling on both MSVC++ and GCC's G++ on Windows though.

Oh... I know what I definitely need to fix... there's this bug where sometimes anything in a scrollbar will appear upside-down. Should I use time to figure out if I can get something to automatically test this and correct it on its own, or should I just make the (potentially very few) people it happens to open the console (pic related) and type "set unflip_textures 1"? (which has support already)

>>12857094
>Work on a menu showing stuff about genetics?
The less visible stats, the better. Part of the fun is discovering how things works, and showing numbers kills it.

>Fix some bugs?
If they're only cosmetic, they can wait.

>Make a menu to get lolis to breed with other lolis?
Do not want futa.

>Add this growth animation in
If you can't interact with it, don't add it.

>Also, how should i handle time progression *for the demo only*? Should it pass at a rate of x days/second? Should there be a 'advance week/month/year' button somewhere?
Days per seconds is way too fast. Days per minute is much better. Instead of just having time skip keys, they should be actual actions that can be taken. Sleeping in should skip a day or two. Vacation should skip a week. If you're trying to skip entire months, that means there aren't enough things to do in the game. Maybe change the scale to weeks instead of days and make the period last several minutes.

>>12857316
It's currently 19:53 here. I don't use the OS that you mentioned the game not to work in. I wouldn't know how to properly answer the third question.

>>12857331
>that means there aren't enough things to do in the game.
I want my lolis to birth many many babies.

>>12857316
>Should it impregnate both lolis, or just one?
This should be a selectable option, or a random chance with certain races having a greater chance of double impregnation.

>Whose last name should the loli get?
Depends on race. Some use hyphens and combine both names. Otherwise, the name of the one who didn't get impregnated. If they were both pregnant, it should be user chosen or hypenated. Do want lolis with eight names.

>Oh... I know what I definitely need to fix... there's this bug where sometimes anything in a scrollbar will appear upside-down.
This should definitely be fixed asap, without typing into a console. If it's rare enough, just release the demo and put a note on how to fix it manually. Maybe add a flip button to the corners of the boxes as a temporary fix?

>>12857343
Add chances for fraternal and identical twins and triplets. The younger they give birth, the higher the chance for death.

>>12857331
>Days per seconds is way too fast. Days per minute is much better. Instead of just having time skip keys, they should be actual actions that can be taken. Sleeping in should skip a day or two. Vacation should skip a week. If you're trying to skip entire months, that means there aren't enough things to do in the game. Maybe change the scale to weeks instead of days and make the period last several minutes.

It's just for the demo so you can actually experience your lolis giving birth...

>>12857383
>This should definitely be fixed asap

It might be an intel integrated graphics things. It happens on my netbook. I'll spend an hour at most on this and if it works then I'll do that and otherwise I'll just release the way to fix it.

>This should be a selectable option

I think I'll make a menu with two buttons "pick father" and "pick mother" and then each one (for now) will just bring up all NPCs.

>>12857391

Maybe later.

>>12857341

How late are you going to stay up?

>>12857425
>It's just for the demo so you can actually experience your lolis giving birth...
If nothing happens before birth, there could be a skip to childbirth option, or a fast mode for days per second.

What I really want to see is some kind of radius around each character. Chloroforming and raping a loli when you're 2 feet away from someone who doesn't react at all is too strange.

>>12857425
Aside from all this, what comes up when you're having sex with the loli? I see lots of work done in kidnapping and stats, but nothing on the actual sex. Will it have descriptions like dwarf fortress?
Also, you should REALLY add dogs and pigs and horses to the dungeon, so I can make them rape the lolis.

Also, I realized there's no way to swap clothes right now. A loli's clothed are just randomly chosen at birth. (And for Japanese lolis I have them have only a 2/3 chance of school uniform and 1/3 of blue sukumizu, and hawaiian ones are always hula skirts... of course I just put this in for fun, I could change it later).

Would you need a menu for this tonight/tomorrow?


>>12857454

Later. Lolis will react and fight back, just not yet. All this stuff takes time to do and I'm not a NEET with limitless time.


>>12857462
>Aside from all this, what comes up when you're having sex with the loli?

pic related. There's a basic animation as well as some text.

>Also, you should REALLY add dogs and pigs and horses to the dungeon, so I can make them rape the lolis.

That's pretty lewd, Anon. Do you want them to somehow impregnate them too? Wouldn't a horse tear a little girl apart? Even grown women can die from being fucked by a horse! Wouldn't a pig kill the girl too? She might get squished! Think of their welfare!

>>12857479
>Do you want them to somehow impregnate them too? Wouldn't a horse tear a little girl apart? Even grown women can die from being fucked by a horse! Wouldn't a pig kill the girl too? She might get squished!
This only makes my penis harder.

There are plenty of interested anons here. You need a team!

>>12857514
>This only makes my penis harder.

How would your mother react if she knew her son gets hard to little girls being raped by farm animals?

>There are plenty of interested anons here

But how many are both good at spriting and also have the dedication and free time to do all the art in the game?

>>12857425
>How late are you going to stay up?
Probably up to 2am. But don't worry about it, it's probably better to leave the release for tommorow.

>>12857514
I'm interested too, but I'd much prefer watersports first.

Hmm. The project's at 39,855 lines of C++ (plus ~1k of loliscript). I wonder if it'll reach 40,000 by the end of 2014. 9 hours to go...

>>12857593

You're in luck then. Loli watersports is one of my main fetishes. That and impregnation/breeding if it wasn't obvious... Bonus points for incest!

>>12857699
Can you check their bellies during pregnancy? It'd be great to feel kicking get stronger as the months progress.

>>12857719

No, but their bellies grow bigger as pregnancy progresses.

>>12857734
I hope you can eventually abort them by punching the loli in the womb.

>>12857755
Now that's just going too far.

>>12857253
Around the Hedge has the potential to sound pretty good. I'll see if I can do it today.

>>12857479
>>12857425
>>12857316
What's the name of this game?

>>12857755

That's pretty mean. But I suppose if I make it so there's actual genders (shotas would just be there for breeding purposes) it might make sense to abort the baby if you find out it's male. I guess you'd need some kind of testing equipment to find that out, and would have to wait until I think 13 weeks into pregnancy or whenever it is.

>>12857928

Sim Loli. Or at least that's what I've been calling it so far.

>>12857965
How would one aquire this testing equipment?
What's the dev schedule?
How large is the play area?

>>12858124
>How would one aquire this testing equipment?

I was considering the idea of being able to buy certain equipment to test the DNA of your lolis/do stuff like that. Money would also be used to upgrade your dungeon.

>What's the dev schedule?

What do you mean? In terms of when I release the demo / shit? Or what's my personal schedule for working on it?

>How large is the play area?

Cities are I think like 12x8 big blocks, and each big block can be multiple smaller blocks. The basement area is pretty big, I don't think you'll run out of space.

>>12858145
That's some really fantastic customization you're doing there. I'm very excited to try this.

>>12858145
I like that customization.
Do you have a site where you post updates?

>>12857910
http://a.pomf.se/yvfjyb.mid
Here it is, Drum layers are 1) Kick 2) Hat 3) Snare.
No rush, I'm always around these threads.

>>12856694

>>12858145
Holy shit, it's like Frtizl Fortress. But with less magma.

>>12858336
and the kids aren't guaranteed to go insane and die when you lock them in a cell for years.

>>12858336
>Frtizl
Fritzl.
>But with less magma.
Meh. Dropped all interest.

>>12858145
>What do you mean?
Your outline for working on each aspect of the game and the estimated time. The thing every developer should have. It's been a long time now, and I want to do whatever I can to get this game out. You can't get help without a dev schedule.

>>12858992
>Your outline for working on each aspect of the game and the estimated time. The thing every developer should have
You're talking to hobbyists and neets not professionals. Most start projects impulsively, without direction, for fun, and drop it after a while or take forever.

>>12859468
I must know some hardcore hobbyists.

>>12858992

I don't have a fixed schedule since the time I have available to work on the game is not fixed. It changes frequently. I do have a todo list of tasks broken up into rough categories for priority + effort. I switch between things on there as I please since I get tired of working on one part and then go to another.

>>12859468

I'm not a NEET. I wish I was. Then I'd actually have significant time to work on the game.

>>12858992

I don't have a fixed schedule since the time I have available to work on the game is not fixed. It changes frequently. I do have a todo list of tasks broken up into rough categories for priority + effort. I switch between things on there as I please since I get tired of working on one part and then go to another.

>>12859468

I'm not a NEET. I wish I was. Then I'd actually have significant time to work on the game.

>>12859715
What are the highest priority items on the list?

>>12859731

Making cops get out of their cars and actually chase/arrest the player.

Making lolis play in parks/walk to/from school/etc

Fix the car collisions/physics.

Have lolis react to the player and fight back.

>>12859715
How are these gifs so long?
Did you make the engine yourself?

what the hell guys

/jp/ I'm working hard on animating and gameplay now, you'll be able to play a demo end january-mid february

>>12859936
>How are these gifs so long?

When there's not much camera movement gifs can be incredibly long because it's only storing the delta between frames I'm guessing. When there's a lot of camera movement they're fucking abysmal. gif related.

>Did you make the engine yourself?

Yes.

>>12859952

Sup fellow AGDG-goer.

>>12859952
>>12858145
>>12845262
>>12843115
>>12842073
>>12838825
>>12837181
>>12837187
>>12834503
>>12834245

You guys are amazing!

>>12859952
Fuck yeah, I've been waiting for that.

Maybe a lobster chasing you as a boss battle is meta slug inspired. Hopefully it is metal slug fun.

>>12860558
Speaking of meta-slugs, you should put some sea slugs in. They're pretty cool.

>>12860691

I might add a horse conch but I mean dunno what they'd do besides crawl around. The jellyfish seems a little too mobile for them to be a threat.

>>12860858
They can just be for decoration. Lots of slugs are just pretty and would make nice background creatures.

>>12860928

Oh yeah, some can sting like http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Glaucus_atlanticus.. In Ecco, sometimes you could push some creatures into things to hurt them. Maybe a group of some stinging slug could be floating around and you could wound dangerous creatures with them by getting them near or luring the creature into them or something.

I'm still confused on which character for sheep to use and I'm having trouble on how to halftone decently, but besides that everything went okay, I guess.

Anyway, happy new year, /jp/!

>>12861056
the orange is too strong compared to the character/rope, so everything is chaos. It took some time for me to understand that it was one of those shrine-rope things, and not a candy-cane strapon. I'd suggest making the orange less saturated.

>>12860858
There are some more mobile sea slugs and snails around, maybe you can use them? Lion's mane nudibranchs have an inflatable hood that they trap small animals in, they're also decent swimmers in a pinch and can capture jellies. There are also active swimmers like Phylliroe, which exclusively targets jellyfish both as larvae and as adults (the larvae are parasitic in their bells while the adults consume them whole). You can also add sea angels or heteropods, both are capable swimmers and some heteropods feed on jellyfish. Cone snails can also attack from afar with their harpoon teeth despite being unable to swim.

The lobster battle looks very nice, though. Darius meets Ecco meets Metal Slug.

>>12859952

Wow you improved the animations.

>>12861056
That's a nice way to hide her futa cock.

>>12861056
If you mean those dots that mimic the dots from amplitude modulation you can probably make it less shitty by turning it to an angle other than 90° or 45° and make it more losely following the outline of your character.
Also: >>12861087 >>12861585

>>12859952
Nice!

>>12861752
>If you mean those dots that mimic the dots from amplitude modulation
Can you elaborate on your thought process here? I would have never thought to think of halftone as amplitude modulation. I just think of it as a kind of dithering.

>>12861087
Sorry, I'm still struggling at color compositions and at backgrounds in general, but thanks for that.

>>12861585
I knew that rope positioning was awkward, fuck.

>>12861752
It was my first time to actually work with halftones, so I didn't know what to make of it and how to do it. I guess I wasn't able to explore the possibilities enough. I'll try revisiting it sometime the next time I work on something.

Anyway, thanks anons. I'll be keeping those in mind. Except for >>12861585

>>12859960
Hi
>>12859989
>>12860275
>>12861477
>>12861752
Thanks

The game's not complex but I'm adding some features that might make it more fun to try combos.

If you're on top of enemies and time it right, you can press the jump key to jump off of them while pushing them down so you can keep staying in the air (there's no double jump).

Well shit.I was about to release a demo tonight and now all of the sudden I'm getting dark-skinned kids from two white parents.

What did I break...

>>12863071
I'm not saying I'm excruciatingly excited to play your game or anything, but I really don't think this is a big enough problem to postpone a demo release. Who knows, maybe the child isn't even his. Maybe she had already been impregnated beforehand.

>>12863075

Oh, I won't delay it.

I think I fixed it anyway. I was just being retarded when I refactored some constructor for something DNA-related.

There's a shitload of bugs though (like functional ones, not aesthetic ones).

I still have to add the loli-on-loli mating GUI (I'll hack something together fast in an hour I guess) before I release.

I did a private test with some people on a pedo IRC channel and they found a metric shitload of bugs. I fixed some of the crashing/softlocks though. But there's still weird issues like /sometimes/ the player can't enter houses (he just stops colliding with doors...)

>>12863090
Is there spanking in that game?

Yeah, definitely fixed. Girls in the left cell are the kids of the one in the right one.

>>12863146

No. You can rape and beat up your lolis though.

>>12863090
>a pedo IRC channel
There are ones that aren't?

>>12863157
No interested then.

>>12863169

Of course there are non-pedo IRC channels. Pedo ones are the minority.

>>12863227

Why are you so focused on spanking?

>>12859989
aw shucks

>>12863090
>IRC channel
Name?

>>12863440

I just posted an updated one with some bugfixes (still no loli-on-loli mating menu though) on #agdc which is an amateur game dev channel.

The pedo one was #*chan-/loli/ on irc.rizon.net... replace the * with an 8

>>12863508
Would you link whatever download link you have here?

>>12863527

I'm almost done the NPC mating menu. Just wait a little bit longer. Plus, the version I released there had a crash bug that I fixed already.

Sketch

>>12863605
Finished version

>>12863609
The really pretty. I really like how you coloured this, the contrasts stand really strong against each it.

>>12863609
Looks nice, I like the colours
Consider not hiding hands in future drawings

>>12863609
>>12863605
pro level hand and foot hiding

>>12863692
I agree about the hands but foot aren't supposed to start at the knee.

>>12863721
say that to my face boy and my foot will start at your ass

>>12863609
Your rendering is pretty solid.
You'd profit from a better groundwork, though.

>>12863609
>>12863605
flappy underside of your dress doesn't make sense

>>12863813
Definitely, but by the time I started to work on the background I was too exhausted and rushed the whole thing.

>>12863817
Hope this helps.