/jp/ - Otaku Culture

>>12640881
Thanks for the reminder, I feed my em with a high-protein cum diet.

>>12640881
I will.

>>12640885
Verboten.

How do I deal with the bathroom situation? Litter box?

>>12640885
hot as fuck

>>12640896
Kobito urine is nutritious and high in vitamins. Try drinking it. And everyone knows 2hus are too pure to poop.

>>12640881
Excuse me, Shinmyoumaru is not an it. She is a cute, independent, young lady!

>>12640920
I'm just glad I'm starting to see more people call her Shinmyoumaru. I always thought it was cuter sounding than Sukuna.

All I want in life is a tiny, tiny girl wearing tea cups for helmet following me around and having a good time while calling me hurtful names.

>>12640988
I'm gonna die.

http://exhentai.org/g/752487/810d6bda83/

look at my brand new pocketpatchy

>>12641108
Fuck you.

I would be terrified of touching her. It is like handling a tiny bird.

>>12641108
I don't need to open that to know what that is.

>>12641137
Is it lethal?

>>12641173
It's a grenade that shrieks MUKYUUU!! before exploding.

>>12641175
I'll take twenty.

I'd give up half of my room space and build her a huge dollhouse. And I'd make a contraption of sorts so I can carry her comfortably on my chest/shoulder.

>>12641108
Ex is dead right now, but I guess its the tarantula doujinshi.

>>12641188

>>12641188
It is. The ex add-on still gives a preview.

Remember to feed Shinmyoumaru properly.

>>12641203
Of course.

>>12641188
It's not even an ex-only link. Everyone just uses that, for some reason. Do they at least know ex downloads cost twice as much as g downloads?

Remember to give your Shinmyoumaru a good place to sleep.

So, what's happening with her? Reimu stuffed her inside a tiny doll house in her shrine, the last time we have seen her.

>>12641219
With the fucking cutest, tiny slippers ever.

>>12641219
She runs on a wheel like a hamster to generate electricity. No more shrine fires, no more dark-emitting youkai to scare away donators.

>>12641219
Probably will stay there until that fuggin amanojaku tries to start shit up again

>>12641203
I'm giving her the daily cum nutrition right now.

>>12640988
this is a bit too cute, you better be careful

>>12640988
Is she trying to hide?

>>12641700
Yes and by god, this is probably the cutest image I've seen this year.

I want a PocketYukarin!

>>12641251
>fuggin amanojaku
I would.

>>12640881
I'd rather feed on it

>>12641808
Well, you asked for it.

Feed on this!

*whips out dick*

>>12640881
But that's such a pain. Can't I feed it like once a week or something? That should be fine, right?

>>12641967
She'd be super high, you know those whipped cream cans are filled with laughing gas, right?

How to play with your tiny 2hu.

>>12642076

You were supposed to feed them?

Well shit.

Shinmyoumaru is great at making clothes.

1/3

>>12642211
Oh Jesus, my heart!

2/3

>>12642082
>>12642076
Don't just post those two, anon.

>>12642279
Okay.

>>12642295

>>12642299
Now you know how to properly play with your kobito.

>>12642330
Looks like someone's been neglecting their Shinmyoumaru.

What did she say to the tiny 2hu?

>>12642436
How to pleasure a penis larger than she is.

>>12642260
>>12642266
HA!

>>12641203
I'm overfeeding my Sakuna dangerously close to bursting, what are you gonna do about it?

>>12642456
>Sakuna
Wrong.

>>12642458
I'm spelling your favrit 2hu's name wrong too. What are you gonna do about it?

>>12642491
this will never get scanned.

>>12642491
I thought that was kiira from the thumbnail. I almost came a little. It should be time for another mushroom adventure about now.

>>12642509
I was planning on posting that image!

>>12642617
Animated.

http://www.pixiv.net/member_illust.php?mode=medium&illust_id=45529605

can I fug it?

>>12643264
No, it's not real, and even if it were real, it's too small. Unless you have a super micro penis.

>>12643264
You can slap it around with your penis.

Do no let your tiny princess hang around sluts.

>>12642456
She seems on board with it.

What's that around her waist?


Also, this is my fetish

>>12641207
I just torrent them, or grab them with downthemall if there isn't a torrent available. What cost w?

>>12643264
Hugjobs.

I dislike people who are unpleasant to tiny 2hu's.

>>12642456
That's what I do too. It's much more convenient to feed her once a month and let her gurgle and digest, skin taut and creaking ominously, for the next few weeks.

>>12643346
Isn't it great?

>>12644056
>downloading downscales
Literally the worst.

>>12642436
she say "u a slut"
tiny 2hu respond "no"

>>12644509
tiny 2hu would be 2 flustered to respond

>>12644509
And then she leaned in close and whispered "It's opposite day."

>>12642456
That's ethically wrong if I had a tiny 2hu i would be nice to it

>>12642300
If she stays there long enough eventually she'll have to go to the bathroom

>>12644596
You are not clever.

>>12640964
>kill la kill
>>>/a/

>>12644833

She starts crying, but eventually Reimu comes by and saves her.

>>12642491
Which youkai loves Reimu the most and why is it the teacup midget?

I'm afraid I wouldn't see her and accidentally smush her.

>>12646096
A Kobito is not a kind of Youkai. They are tiny people that are closer to fairies.

>>12646563

Youkai is an extremely broad term.

>>12646604
That doesn't include tiny people!

>>12642456
I like how they did a cutaway so people wouldn't be confused into thinking she's pregnant

>>12646563
fairies are considered youkai in Gensokyo as shown in PMiSS where their article is in the Youkai Encyclopedia section.

everyone but the humans and the aliens are considered youkai.

>>12646096
cause Reimu made a home for her after being cursed with gnome status.

>>12647677
I think he means kobito don't get the usual superhuman strength and resilience that the usual youkai have. Yet, they seem to have the same intelligence as a normal human despite their size, unlike fairies.

>>12647688
>I think he means kobito don't get the usual superhuman strength and resilience that the usual youkai have
except the point here is kobito and fairies being youkai or not, which they are, not their strength or whatever, how the hell did you branch off into something completely irrelevant here?

>>12645970
that's not the ending i was looking for

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>>12645806
thats just a normal canon touhou from the recent game

>>12647693
except they're not

>>12648037
except they are.

Is this the fairy fetish Touhou?

Question... is Nazrin tiny mouse-sized, or much larger? I've seen her drawn both ways.

I'm hoping tiny, so she can have a tiny tea-party together with Shinmyoumaru.

If I removed that bowl, would she die?

>>12648262
she would if you removed her bowel

>>12648202
She controls mouse sized mice she is normal size

>>12648262
>If I removed that bowl, would she die?

It would be extremely painful...

Give your tiny 2hu lots of toys to play with!

I want to give her a tongue bath.

I'd let her play with my urethra. She may be tiny but doesn't mean she can't find her own ways to pleasure you.

here, eat this

eat it

eat this, here

eat this. here. eat it.

>>12649345
If she doesn't eat, try threatening to feed her to the dogs.

What's the pixiv tag for Sakuna?

I've tried everything and have only got like, 10 pictures.

top lyl

>>12649384
It's Sukuna you fucking mongoloid.

>>12649384
google sukuna

>>12647683
What about Reimu and Yukari? Yukari seems persistent on Reimu.

>>12649408
Reimu is Gensokyo's lifeline, and Gensokyo is Yukari's magnum opus so of course Yukari cares for Reimu's well being.

>>12649405
>>12649407
Oh sweet crap I did it again.
I'm always fucking up with my a's and u's

Shinmyoumaru finds a new larger bowl and switches it like a hermit crab.

>>12649410
Yeah but does Yukari's concern over Reimu translates to her loving Reimu or not? This sounds like shipping bait but I'd seriously like to discuss this.

>>12649421
We would never know because Yukari always tries to be mysterious, unpredictable and all that shit.

Serious question now folks.

Would you still consume the soup?

>>12649458
It's not cannibalism if it's not human, right?

>>12649458
No. Its highly unhygienic. What if she's HVI positive?

>>12649460
>>12649461
No, I meant after you take her out.

>>12649463
The question still stands, what if she's HIV positive?

>>12649461
Would an inchling's HVI be even compatible with human?

>>12649463
Absolutely

>>12649465
Then if you're confident she doesn't have any infectious diseases?

>>12649474
Probably. What soup was that?

>>12649468
>>12649477
Your answers please me.

Also I think it's just dashi.

Oh dear.

>>12649604
What a waste of good chocolate.
Guess she has to clean it up by herself using her tongue while lying naked on the floor.

>>12648056
They're not.

>>12649458
Yes, quickly before she gets out

>>12641219
>>the last time we have seen her.
and that's the last time we ever will.

>>12649458
Only if she's peed in it, or if she was rather dirty beforehand. I'm not a fan of flavourless soup.

>>12649467
Mutation

Shrinking smaller than tiny 2hu!

>>12650225
What if she was submerged in a hearty stock?

>>12653983
I'd rather taste Shinmyoumaru.

>>12654012
She does look delicious.

>>12649611
Hey, be a gentleman, don't make her do it herself.
Grab her, pop her in your mouth, and start sucking.

>>12649410
>is Gensokyo's lifeline
not really, just the barrier.

>>12654863
Without the barrier, Gensokyo is toast.

>>12649422
>>12649421
in Seasonal Dream Vision Yukari starts worrying about Reimu's well being and then shrugs it off thinking that she'll be fine since she's Reimu and it's her who got into the forest on her own.

>>12649716
They are, the book says so.
>>12654867
No, it's just the barrier, they can make another one just like they did with the first one.

>>12654880
What about the downtime in between the barrier construction?

I don't think the JSDF take kindly to supernatural monsters living in their land without paying tax.

>>12654893
>What about the downtime in between the barrier construction?
where does it say how long it takes? and Yukari is just crazy bullshit powerful, she could probably gap the whole thing somewhere else meanwhile anyhow.

>>12654898
If she could gap the whole land to some gap space, she wouldn't have it still existing in Japan.

And the barrier is a collaboration between supposedly powerful youkai sages, I don't think it's supposed be a one minute work.

>>12654902
>she wouldn't have it still existing in Japan.
it's the place where gensokyo originated. there's no need to move it since they, especially Yukari, are so smug about their decisions, and they're right.
>And the barrier is a collaboration between supposedly powerful youkai sages
honey as long as you don't give me something concrete you're not gonna convince me, for all you know it could just be an ofuda keeping it in place like it's so common in japanese media, including Touhou to an extent.

>>12654925
OK, let's get back to the main point, Reimu being Gensokyo's life line, this is what Akyuu writes in PMiSS:
>The Hakurei shrine maidens control the Great Hakurei Boundary and protect Gensokyo.
>If the Great Boundary were destroyed, either from inside or out, Gensokyo would likely not fare well.
>Gensokyo relies on the Hakurei Shrine and its shrine maidens to continue to exist as it does today.
>As a result, no youkai oppose them.

>>12654932
>no youkai oppose them.
Well that's a huge lie. As 16-or-so games have proved, as well as the manga.

You can't trust Akyuu, she lies a lot, especially in SoPM where character descriptions are extremely off, especially Koishi's.

Did you forget that Yukari manipulates everything Akyuu writes?

>>12654961
They fight using spellcard rules which is meant to be non-lethal.
>Did you forget that Yukari manipulates everything Akyuu writes?
And Yukari has Gensokyo's interest in mind, so if she wants to protect Reimu, that means Reimu is in Gensokyo's interest.

>>12654965
>They fight using spellcard rules which is meant to be non-lethal.
Doesn't matter, Akyuu said no youkai oppose them, which is a lie. Also guess what, spellcard rules didn't exist prior to EoSD and yet youkai still opposed her.
>And Yukari has Gensokyo's interest in mind
Dude Yukari modified what's written in the book, it means you can't trust anything in it, regardless of your assumptions.

>>12654979
>Doesn't matter, Akyuu said no youkai oppose them, which is a lie. Also guess what, spellcard rules didn't exist prior to EoSD and yet youkai still opposed her.
Here's what ZUN has to say regarding the PC-98 games:
>Basically, they're whatever-works types, so they might not be dead. I generally have no comment regarding
older works. Please ignore it as much as you can in derivative works. :-)
And spellcard rules were created after the vampire incident, likely because Reimu's life could have been harmed.
>Dude Yukari modified what's written in the book, it means you can't trust anything in it, regardless of your assumptions.
Oh well, that means we pretty much can't discuss Touhou canon then, because everything is skewered or happen differently due to different routes.

>>12654998
>Please ignore it as much as you can in derivative works. :-)
So irrelevant to the conversation we're having.
>And spellcard rules were created after the vampire incident, likely because Reimu's life could have been harmed.
And, you know, to prevent humans from being eaten.
> that means we pretty much can't discuss Touhou canon then
Uh no? Just that we can't trust PMiSS, which is what I've been telling you.

ZUN himself tells you this in the book's afterword, like come on.

>>12655008
Okay, we can't trust PMiSS, now what can we trust?

>>12655025
Everything else. Not SoPM though since that's another Akyuu book and boy does it get shit wrong, like Akyuu saying Koishi has no personality or mind and nobody will ever notice her when in SA she was the most cheerful character and everyone can notice her except Ichirin for some reason.

>>12655032
Jesus, you are that same dude in that other thread arguing about Sanae and Kosuzu, are ya?

And this is what Akyuu says about Koishi in SoPM:
>While her nature makes her neither liked nor hated, it appears there are some who do enjoy her presence.
>She gets on well with children who have not yet built complex human relations.
>A youkai invisible to adults, and only visible to certain children. However, even those who played with them in their childhood will completely forget that they existed once they grow up. Has anything like that ever happened to you?
So basically, children can see Koishi, and the human protagonists in 2hu are pretty much children.

>>12655038
>A youkai invisible to adults
And yet all the adults in HM can see her.

>And this is what Akyuu says about Koishi in SoPM:
Why did you not write the part where Akyuu claims she has no personality which is the wrongest thing ever?

>>12654880
>No, it's just the barrier, they can make another one just like they did with the first one.
Getting back to this point, is there any proof the youkai can build another barrier?

The current barrier was not even built by youkai, it was built by humans but reinforced by youkai:
>Gensokyo was deemed useless to the new world as well, so priests sealed it away with the Great Barrier, which could never be opened again. Of course, both the youkai and the descendants of the brave humans who kept them in check were sealed away in the process as well...

>>12655044
>And yet all the adults in HM can see her.
Because these adults happen to be, you know, youkai or supernatural beings.
And this is the part you want me to mention I guess:
> As her personality is blank, it's just as difficult to communicate with her as it is with her sister.
It is hard to know what Koishi has on her mind.

>>12655056
>Because these adults happen to be, you know, youkai or supernatural beings.
They're still adults. Also guess what, HM pretty much destroys that since the whole plot is about crowd praising the fighters which seemingly boosts their power, including Koishi.
>> As her personality is blank
There ya go, bullshit of the highest degree.

>>12640881
>Your own tiny 2hu. Remember to feed it.

Shitmyoumaru will be eating my shit when I shove her up my ass after eating large quantities of broccoli and cabbage while drinking a gallon of milk. Then I'll fart the little fucker out so hard I'll send her to orbit along with bits of my fecal matter.

>>12655046
> is there any proof the youkai can build another barrier?
Why wouldn't they? Youkai seem to know everything about the barrier, especially Yukari who's like, the one keeping shit in check. They can also appoint new shrine maidens if they feel like it according to Aya.

>>12655065
>They're still adults. Also guess what, HM pretty much destroys that since the whole plot is about crowd praising the fighters which seemingly boosts their power, including Koishi.
It helps that Koishi is stealing the mask of hope in the whole of HM.
>There ya go, bullshit of the highest degree.
Seems like you are adamant on this, I have no dibs on this so I won't argue further.

>>12655077
>It helps that Koishi is stealing the mask of hope in the whole of HM.
Man you people love to exaggerate that and use it as excuse for everything.
>Seems like you are adamant on this
You already dodged the fact that Akyuu claimed her personality was blank twice by trying to focus on other points of what she said, like come on.

>>12655068
Seeming to know something doesn't mean you can do it.

There's no proof that youkai can rebuild the barrier if it's poof.

>>12655087
>Seeming to know
Discard that, they don't seem to know, they know it through and through. How would they know that (allegedly) the barrier's lifespan is related to the shrine maiden's heartbeat? Or that appointing a new heir magically transfers that from the previous maiden to the new one? There's no proof anywhere that they were told, they just know the barrier.

Also it's just priests, nothing about them being the legendary ultimate whatever that saved the village blah blah, no, just priests.

iirc Reimu said that if she pokes the barrier a bit Yukari will automatically appear beneath her, it's how she makes Yukari appear when she wants her to, meaning Yukari is linked to the barrier somehow.

>>12655087

Is there any proof they can't?

>>12655086
>Man you people love to exaggerate that and use it as excuse for everything.
Considering that event sparkles the whole of HM, I wouldn't say it's an exageration.
>You already dodged the fact that Akyuu claimed her personality was blank twice by trying to focus on other points of what she said, like come on.
Because I believe Akyuu has a point in saying Koishi's personality is blank.
There's a point that Byakuren sees enlightenment in Koishi, and for that she would have no materialistic desire hence her personality being blank. I don't want to discuss further because I'm not that knowledgeable regarding the Chireiden cast.

>>12655100
You need to prove that they can first, before saying they can't.

>>12655103
>Considering that event sparkles the whole of HM
Not really, Kosuzu finds other masks of hopes in different endings like Nitori's, and even then it doesn't really matter, it just says it gives Koishi a purpose, point is Koishi is visible, and no Reimu and Marisa aren't children.
>Because I believe Akyuu has a point in saying Koishi's personality is blank.
She is completely wrong as Koishi's personality is one of the most cheerful in the series and she even gets angry at times. All the other characters have personalities more blank than her.

>>12655097
Even if they know how to reinforce it, doesn't mean they can make it.

What's with goods from the outside are appearing more and more in Gensokyo, it's even in a shadow of doubt that the "reinforcing" works.

>>12655107

You need to prove that can't first, before saying they can.

>>12655113
>Kosuzu
*Kokoro
>>12655116
>Even if they know how to reinforce it,
I didn't say that at all, I'm saying how they know the barrier through and through without any source of information.
>What's with goods from the outside are appearing more and more in Gensokyo
It's just barrier glitches, they've always happened, Kourindou has always lived off that and iirc the kappa and tengu have been using them too.

>>12655113
>Not really, Kosuzu finds other masks of hopes in different endings like Nitori's, and even then it doesn't really matter, it just says it gives Koishi a purpose, point is Koishi is visible, and no Reimu and Marisa aren't children.
And with hope, one can say Koishi has gain a desire. Reimu and Marisa do act like children and think like children.
>She is completely wrong as Koishi's personality is one of the most cheerful in the series and she even gets angry at times. All the other characters have personalities more blank than her.
I would digress and say being cheerful or angry doesn't mean you necessarily have a wild personality, it just means you have expressions or emotions.

>>12655123
>I didn't say that at all, I'm saying how they know the barrier through and through without any source of information.
So it appears that they might know it wrong then.
>It's just barrier glitches, they've always happened, Kourindou has always lived off that and iirc the kappa and tengu have been using them too.
Which is what I'm saying, the youkai might not know what they are doing if these glitches become more and more frequent.

>>12655122
Proving the negative man, innocent until proven guilty.

>>12655129
>And with hope, one can say Koishi has gain a desire
Okay? Thanks for the irrelevant info.
>Reimu and Marisa do act like children and think like children.
They're the most cynical children then, ZUN already said that Reimu was in her mid-teens, i.e: not a child.
>have a wild personality
Emotions are part of a personality you know, without emotions you'd effectively have a blank personality. Koishi even gets angry when Ichirin fails to notice her.
>>12655134
>So it appears that they might know it wrong then.
Source?
>the youkai might not know what they are doing if these glitches become more and more frequent.
Doing what? Why did you derive into something we aren't even talking about? Point is it's clear the youkai know the barrier through and through, if the barrier is glitching then that's the fault of the priests.

>>12654871
What a bitch.
I was worried sick for Reimu.

>>12655140
>Okay? Thanks for the irrelevant info.
If she gains a desire, Byakuren's plan for her is bust.
>They're the most cynical children then, ZUN already said that Reimu was in her mid-teens, i.e: not a child.
The point is they think and act like children.
>Emotions are part of a personality you know, without emotions you'd effectively have a blank personality. Koishi even gets angry when Ichirin fails to notice her.
Emotions are part of the subconscious, which is Koishi's realm.

Emotions alone without a drive or motivation mean you have no idea what you are doing, and just resorting to instinct.

>>12655140
>Source?
All the goods in Muezuka, these glitches become more frequent.
>Doing what? Why did you derive into something we aren't even talking about? Point is it's clear the youkai know the barrier through and through, if the barrier is glitching then that's the fault of the priests.
All I'm saying is that the youkai might not know what they are doing, hence their reinforcing does not keep outside goods away, or even foreigners away for that matter (Reisen and all other invaders).

>>12655155
>All I'm saying is that the youkai might not know what they are doing

Might be the opposite. Might be the reinforcing is the only thing keeping the barrier operational at all.

>>12655151
>If she gains a desire, Byakuren's plan for her is bust.
...Okay?
>The point is they think and act like children.
No, they're just rash, it takes maturity to forgive the sins of the villain and befriend it. And what matters here is that Akyuu claimed only children can see her, which is bullshit.
>Emotions are part of the subconscious
And part of a personality, which Koishi has the most.
>Emotions alone without a drive or motivation mean you have no idea what you are doing
Okay? That has nothing to do here since Koishi has a motive, like in SA she was interested in who managed to beat Okuu.
>>12655155
>All the goods in Muezuka, these glitches become more frequent.
What does that have to do with youkai not knowing it?
>All I'm saying is that the youkai might not know what they are doing
Doing what?
> hence their reinforcing does not keep outside goods away
What? It's the priests' fault for making such a shitty barrier, otherwise it wouldn't need reinforcing. Hell the sheer fact that they know the barrier's mechanics enough to be able to modify it and reinforce it means they do know how to make it.
> hence their reinforcing does not keep outside goods away, or even foreigners away for that matter (Reisen and all other invaders).
All glitches that can happen to anything, point is the barrier works since otherwise it wouldn't be there and stop people from entering when they want.

>>12655159
It can go either ways, but the reality is that Gensokyo is modernizing at a relative fast pace and Yukari doesn't seem to do shit or can't do shit about it.

>>12655160
>...Okay?
Byakuran has Koishi joining her because she thinks Koishi has reach enlightenment.
>No, they're just rash, it takes maturity to forgive the sins of the villain and befriend it. And what matters here is that Akyuu claimed only children can see her, which is bullshit.
On the other hand, they don't take things as seriously, and they easily forgive people after beating them, just like children.
>And part of a personality, which Koishi has the most.
It's hard to describe personality, but emotions alone don't cut it.
>Okay? That has nothing to do here since Koishi has a motive, like in SA she was interested in who managed to beat Okuu.
It's like that in HM as well, she just sort of wanders around until something interests her.

>>12655183
>Byakuran has Koishi joining her because she thinks Koishi has reach enlightenment.
...Okay? What is it with you telling all these irrelevant things? Stop it.
>just like children.
Hahaha no, quite the opposite, it's childish to hold grudges and never forgive, nice try. Being carefree at that age is also a sign of maturity, see: Seiga, despite her life being on the line constantly she doesn't give a shit.
>It's hard to describe personality, but emotions alone don't cut it.
Emotions are part of it, without emotions you have a blank personality, Koishi is one of the most cheerful and personality-full characters.
> she just sort of wanders around until something interests her.
She has a motive in both games, the fact that in the latter one she's just wandering around at first doesn't matter, everyone wanders around.

>>12655160
>What does that have to do with youkai not knowing it?
Youkai knows about it, youkai knows that the barrier is supposed to keep the outside world away, but recent developments have more and more outside world shit in Gensokyo, and it ain't stopping, and youkai don't do shit about it.
>Hell the sheer fact that they know the barrier's mechanics enough to be able to modify it and reinforce it means they do know how to make it.
We're arguing that, it's arguable that the reinforcing works at all considering the foreigners (to say, the MoF cast or anything lunarians) can just walk in and out the barrier without mucho problem.

Just fuck already.

>>12655194
>but recent developments have more and more outside world shit in Gensokyo
It's what it has always been, Kourindou is proof of that since it's centuries old and has always been selling outside world items.
>and youkai don't do shit about it.
Blame the priests for making such a shitty barrier.
> it's arguable that the reinforcing works at all considering the foreigners (to say, the MoF cast or anything lunarians) can just walk in and out the barrier without mucho problem.
They're fantasy creatures, Gensokyo is where they belong, that's why Mamizou can come and go as she wants, because she's both a youkai and she's still believed on in the outside world, not to mention there's always been a path between the moon and Gensokyo that opens up at a specific time, which is the path the lunarians take.

>>12655191
>...Okay? What is it with you telling all these irrelevant things? Stop it.
Byakuren agrees with Akyuu that Koishi's personality is blank, she thinks Koishi has reached enlightenment.
>Hahaha no, quite the opposite, it's childish to hold grudges and never forgive, nice try.
Reimu befriend youkai nearly immediately after beating them, no matter the crime. In the outside world, this is like befriending Churchill or Stalin befriending Hitler after beating his army, it doesn't work that way.
>Emotions are part of it, without emotions you have a blank personality, Koishi is one of the most cheerful and personality-full characters.
My point is that while she has emotions, or just expressions, she lacks drive or desire, before getting the Mask of Hope I guess.
>She has a motive in both games, the fact that in the latter one she's just wandering around at first doesn't matter, everyone wanders around.
Now that's a broad statement, most household-related characters don't wander around, they have a role in their household, the only household-related characters to wander around are playful people like Seiga, Nue, Kogasa, and even then there's a point to their going around, to piss off/play pranks with people.

>>12655202
>It's what it has always been, Kourindou is proof of that since it's centuries old and has always been selling outside world items.
The outside world items are getting more numerous, Kourin basically has a ton of computer in store now, though the most obvious example is paper, back then paper in Gensokyo costs mucho money, but the sudden outburst of outside world paper inside Gensokyo has decreased its price.
>Blame the priests for making such a shitty barrier.
Considering the priests are likely dead by now, I'm going to blame the now caretakers, being Yukari and Reimu.
>They're fantasy creatures, Gensokyo is where they belong, that's why Mamizou can come and go as she wants, because she's both a youkai and she's still believed on in the outside world, not to mention there's always been a path between the moon and Gensokyo that opens up at a specific time, which is the path the lunarians take.
Human outsiders are in Gensokyo as well, they don't know how they get in, but they get in alright.

>>12655226
>Byakuren agrees with Akyuu that Koishi's personality is blank
Uh no? She just thinks that her being so carefree and nothing to worry about means buddha must be involved.
>Byakuren agrees with Akyuu that Koishi's personality is blank
Which is a sign of maturity, childishness is to hold a grudge.
>In the outside world, this is like befriending Churchill or Stalin befriending Hitler after beating his army, it doesn't work that way.
This is nothing like that and you know it, stop acting like a tard. Also guess what, the nations did befriend each other after the war, except for Russia, because commies.
>My point is that while she has emotions, or just expressions, she lacks drive or desire
How many times do I have to tell you that she has motives in both games?
> most household-related characters don't wander around
Even I wander around at times.
You're seriously thinking that wandering off means no personality? Like come on, you're grasping at straws incredibly hard. It just means that whatever is currently happening doesn't concern her, geez. And why do you keep ignoring her motive in SA?

>>12655243
>The outside world items are getting more numerous
It's what it has always been, again, there's been a whole fucking store about those items since the beginning. The fact that paper is getting thrown away in sudden outbursts due to modernization is no different from what happened in PoFV, and those were just souls, nothing that should be blocked by the barrier.

>>12655202
>rinnosuke has been part of the kirisame family for generations
Citation needed.

>>12655256
how the hell did you get that from the post?

>>12655243
>I'm going to blame the now caretakers
It's the priests' fault for making the barrier so shitty, again. The priests are also just normal priests, there's no reason infinitely superior beings like youkai couldn't make a barrier or at least work with the shrine maiden to make one.
>Human outsiders are in Gensokyo as well, they don't know how they get in, but they get in alright.
Like I said, as glitches.

>>12655247
>Uh no? She just thinks that her being so carefree and nothing to worry about means buddha must be involved.
She thinks she has no wordly desire, hence enlightenment.
>This is nothing like that and you know it, stop acting like a tard. Also guess what, the nations did befriend each other after the war, except for Russia, because commies.
Substitute the countries for the households and it's similar, not to mention "befriending" here means the losing country will have to pay reparations out of its ass, this is not how it works in Gensokyo.
>How many times do I have to tell you that she has motives in both games?
Her motives are sudden outburst, and entirely out of a whim, oh someone beats Okuu, I wonder who that is, oh let's steal this Mask, it will be fun.
> It just means that whatever is currently happening doesn't concern her, geez.
Since you keep mentioning her SA's motive, it's interesting to note that Koishi doesn't give a shit about why her household is getting attacked or worried about her sister or pets, she's just interested in who beats Okuu.

>>12655254
>>12655264
Are you we comparing souls with papers now? And my point is that said fucking store is getting suddenly crowded, with a lot more goods than ever before, Kourin now doesn't have space for all the computers.

And if the barrier is so shitty, why don't the youkai just make a new stronger one? Why keep fixing broken shit?

>>12655267
>She thinks she has no wordly desire, hence enlightenment.
As in, being carefree, and Koishi has no motive when Byakuren meets her, unlike in SA.
>Substitute the countries for the households and it's similar
No it's not, in the war case there's actual fucking deaths involved and countries whole being affected for decades, in Gensokyo it's just a girl being mischevious, the closest there was to an outright evil bitch was Seija, and rightfully so everyone in Gensokyo hates her ass.
>Her motives are sudden outburst, and entirely out of a whim
Still motives, don't try to discard them. Also motives don't mean personality, it just means you don't give a shit about what's currently happening.
>it's interesting to note that Koishi doesn't give a shit about why her household is getting attacked or worried about her sister or pets
Why should she worry about harmless danmaku?
>>12655275
>Are you we comparing souls with papers now?
Yes, it's the same concept, something happening in the outside world affects Gensokyo regardless of the barrier.
> with a lot more goods than ever before
Like I said, because of modernization.
>why don't the youkai just make a new stronger one?
Cause it still works, what matters is that it keeps Gensokyo alive, people glitching in matters jack shit to them and in fact they're fascinated by it since it's a way to get information about the outside world without actually leaving Gensokyo. That one outside world dude was praised to hell and back.

>>12655282
>As in, being carefree, and Koishi has no motive when Byakuren meets her, unlike in SA.
If being carefree means reaching enlightenment, even freaking Marisa would be hired by Byakuren now, since Marisa has her times being super carefree.
>No it's not, in the war case there's actual fucking deaths involved and countries whole being affected for decades, in Gensokyo it's just a girl being mischevious, the closest there was to an outright evil bitch was Seija, and rightfully so everyone in Gensokyo hates her ass.
Okuu was planning to nuke Gensokyo, my friend, nuff said. Insane or not, if you do that shit in the real world, you would be put in jail.
>Also motives don't mean personality, it just means you don't give a shit about what's currently happening.
Personality has to do with motivation, if you have no motivation, no drive, you are just living off your instinct and motivation.
>Why should she worry about harmless danmaku?
Never mind that danmaku can kill, her household is getting invaded, I think she ought to have a care or two.

>>12655282
>Yes, it's the same concept, something happening in the outside world affects Gensokyo regardless of the barrier.
The difference is that souls are spiritual while papers are physical, I guess.
>Like I said, because of modernization.
Well, this modernization in the outside world is leaking to Gensokyo, and the barrier cannot stop it.
>Cause it still works, what matters is that it keeps Gensokyo alive, people glitching in matters jack shit to them and in fact they're fascinated by it since it's a way to get information about the outside world without actually leaving Gensokyo. That one outside world dude was praised to hell and back.
If the barrier cannot keep Gensokyo isolated, and outside world keep leaking in more and more, what's the point of the barrier in Gensokyo's survival?

>>12655293
>you are just living off your instinct and motivation.
You are just living off your instinct and emotion*

>>12655293
>since Marisa has her times being super carefree.
Marisa is just mostly shown when there's nothing concerning her, that's not being carefree, whenever there's anything concerning her she goes batshit pretty much every time, like in WaHH when mercury was mentioned she instantly lost her mind. Also when she thought someone had actually been murdered she was all excited. Koishi is the true carefree youkai.
>Okuu was planning to nuke Gensokyo, my friend
Dude not even Kanako, who gave her the power and thus knows all about it, thought much of her and said that even Sanae could beat her, which she did in Soku.
>Personality has to do with motivation
No it doesn't, you are what you are, the current events not concerning you doesn't magically remove that. Hell the fact that Koishi is so lively despite the lack of motive in HM is emphasis enough.
>Never mind that danmaku can kill
Like hell it can, youkai practically are made of danmaku at this point from how much reimu shoves it in their ass all the time and nobody has gone even remotely close to dying or even seriously hurt yet. Even the ''victims'' have a tea party with the aggressor right away, that's sign that danmaku is no biggie.
> I think she ought to have a care or two.
Not even the ''victims'' themselves had a care.

>>12655300
>The difference is that souls are spiritual while papers are physical, I guess.
That's precisely the point, the fact that a sudden large amount of something can come from the outside world regardless of the barrier doing its job or not.
>Well, this modernization in the outside world is leaking to Gensokyo, and the barrier cannot stop it.
It's what it has always been, just that due to modernization there's more shit, again, just like PoFV showed, it doesn't matter how much it is.
>If the barrier cannot keep Gensokyo isolated
But it can, and it does. Harmless things glitching in matters nothing.
>what's the point of the barrier in Gensokyo's survival?
Are you dumb? If the barrier didn't work then Gensokyo would be visible in plain sight and youkai would stop existing because of the lack of belief, except for tanukis. It's the reason why the moriyas went to Gensokyo, cause the outside world was stopping to believe in them. They're fantasy beings so they can enter Gensokyo without issue.

>>12655307
>Marisa is just mostly shown when there's nothing concerning her, that's not being carefree, whenever there's anything concerning her she goes batshit pretty much every time, like in WaHH when mercury was mentioned she instantly lost her mind. Also when she thought someone had actually been murdered she was all excited. Koishi is the true carefree youkai.
Dude, if you remain carefree even when something concerns you happen, I would say your personality is blank, because at that point you don't give a shit anymore.
>Dude not even Kanako, who gave her the
power and thus knows all about it, thought much of her and said that even Sanae could beat her, which she did in Soku.
So it's just children playing around then, which goes back to Reimu and Marisa thinking like children because everything around them is just people playing around.
>No it doesn't, you are what you are, the current events not concerning you doesn't magically remove that.
I'm sorry but SA has to do with her household, and the entire event of HM sparkles from her stealing the mask, these two events simply do concern her.
>Like hell it can
It can, they kill Mokou numerous times in IN's Extra stage, at least in Ghost team when Yuyuko tries to use her power.
>Not even the ''victims'' themselves had a care.
Satori definitely had a care when she noticed them unwelcomed guests. And Orin as well, since she wanted them to be there.

>>12655316
>That's precisely the point, the fact that a sudden large amount of something can come from the outside world regardless of the barrier doing its job or not.
I thought the point of the barrier is to keep things from outside world from reaching it, and with these events, it proves the barrier does not do its job well?
>It's what it has always been, just that due to modernization there's more shit, again, just like PoFV showed, it doesn't matter how much it is.
But it does? Gensokyo is gradually modernized due to this, science is leaking in Gensokyo, you know what will happen with this right?
>Are you dumb? If the barrier didn't work then Gensokyo would be visible in plain sight and youkai would stop existing because of the lack of belief, except for tanukis.
The barrier cannot keep the outside world from entering, sooner or later, this means people will get more scientific ideas, which spell the death of youkai.

>>12655332
>if you remain carefree even when something concerns you happen
...Good thing I never said that and doesn't apply to Koishi then?
>So it's just children playing around then, which goes back to Reimu and Marisa thinking like children because everything around them is just people playing around.
Stop exaggerating just because Kanako didn't think much of Okuu, also drop this fucking point already, not only are those two not children, not only is not holding grudges the most mature thing you can do, but ADULTS CAN SEE KOISHI.
>I'm sorry but SA has to do with her household
I guess the other chireiden members also don't have a personality because they didn't give a shit either?
>these two events simply do concern her.
No, being related to her in the slightest way =! concern.
>It can, they kill Mokou numerous times in IN's Extra stage
Oh cut that shit out, danmaku literally cannot kill humans, you're one of those that keeps repeating that. Also Mokou gives up because of the pain.
>Satori definitely had a care when she noticed them unwelcomed guests
And offered the aggresor tea. Yeah real care my ass. They didn't give a shit, because danmaku is so harmless.

>>12655293
>Never mind that danmaku can kill
uh no
>Okuu was planning to nuke Gensokyo
Her plan in-dialogue seems threatening until you realize she's dumb as a brick and hadn't even seen above ground before. Her motivation was just to take over, which is ridiculous.

>>12655340
>I thought the point of the barrier is to keep things from outside world from reaching it
The point of the barrier is to keep the youkai from going poof.
>But it does?
It doesn't, in fact Gensokyo inhabitants are taking advantage of it, like in the case of the paper leak, the tengu. Like I said, the sudden burst of paper is just like the sudden burst of souls.
>this means people will get more scientific ideas
Now you're reaching, even scientific objects get treated like magic all the time, remember rinnosuke and the game boy? Also the kappa have tools that are more advanced than what we currently have and it's all scientific.

>>12655351
>Her motivation was just to take over
her motivation was to smolder Gensokyo and make it a new hell.

I'm not further with the Koishi shit because as said, I'm not knowledgable regarding SA cast.

Going back to the main point, being Reimu's being Gensokyo's lifeline.
>>12655355
>The point of the barrier is to keep the youkai from going poof.
Yes, which is why Reimu is important to Yukari, because if Reimu goes, the barrier goes.

And no matter all said and done, there's no proof that the current youkai can make another barrier.

>>12655371
>Yes, which is why Reimu is important to Yukari, because if Reimu goes, the barrier goes.
Says who?
>there's no proof that the current youkai can make another barrier.
Not only was the barrier made by average priests, but the youkai know the internal mechanics of the barrier. Reimu/another shrine maiden could just make another one, and it's not like youkai want the barrier to stop glitching because everyone is taking advantage of the spoils and the barrier is still doing what it should do: keep youkai existing.

>>12655380
>Says who?
Says Akyuu, allowed by Yukari. If Yukari has no need for Reimu, Yukari would have edited that part out.
>Not only was the barrier made by average priests, but the youkai know the internal mechanics of the barrier. Reimu/another shrine maiden could just make another one, and it's not like youkai want the barrier to stop glitching because everyone is taking advantage of the spoils and the barrier is still doing what it should do: keep youkai existing.
These are no proofs that youkai can make another barrier, as said, knowing something doesn't mean the capacity of making it.

>>12655362
That was a description of what her invasion would be like. It's like "I'm going to test out my power by going up and wiping out anyone opposing me". Literally turning it into another hell wasn't the actual intention.

>>12655384
>allowed by Yukari
Wrong, modified by Yukari, that's a huge difference because if it were like you said then we could actually trust PMiSS, and even ZUN tells you that you can't.
>These are no proofs that youkai can make another barrier
They know the internal workings of the barrier and if that's not enough they have someone who literally is keeping the barrier alive and her speciality is barriers, too.
>>12655389
>Literally turning it into another hell wasn't the actual intention.
Source?

>>12655392
>Wrong, modified by Yukari, that's a huge difference because if it were like you said then we could actually trust PMiSS, and even ZUN tells you that you can't.
What's the difference here? If Reimu's existence does not benefit Yukari, Yukari would have edited that phrase out.
>They know the internal workings of the barrier
I might know the internal workings of an firearm, but this doesn't mean I can make a firearm out of thin air without proper machines and tools.
>if that's not enough they have someone who literally is keeping the barrier alive and her speciality is barriers, too.
Said person has never proved herself to be capable of making such a barrier.

>>12655402
>What's the difference here?
If it were just things ''allowed'' by Yukari, it would mean that what's written on PMiSS is trustable, and that it's simply missing things.

Yukari directly modifying it means we cannot trust a single sentence.
>If Reimu's existence does not benefit Yukari, Yukari would have edited that phrase out.
That's not the point here, Reimu's existence benefitting Yukari doesn't mean that Reimu dying means the barrier going poof, it could be whatever other reason. In fact, writing that makes all the youkai scared of wanting to kill Reimu.
>but this doesn't mean I can make a firearm out of thin air without proper machines and tools.
Good thing there's a shrine maiden right there whose speciality is barriers.
>Said person has never proved herself to be capable of making such a barrier.
Such a barrier is currently being maintained by her. And as said, the ones that made a barrier were just average priests, Reimu is the top dog priest here and here theme is barriers to boot. Likewise not only can she seal but she can also unseal everything like when she unsealed Patchouli's book that Marisa stole or when she unsealed the gremlin bottle, with a twist of a finger at that.

>>12655421
>Yukari directly modifying it means we cannot trust a single sentence.
I don't see the difference here, it all boils down to Yukari trying to establish her own version of Gensokyo via the book.
>In fact, writing that makes all the youkai scared of wanting to kill Reimu.
Which means Yukari wants to protect Reimu for whatever reason, I'm down with that, no need for more arguing, jesus.

And regarding the priests, who said they were average btw?

>>12655445
>I don't see the difference here, it all boils down to Yukari trying to establish her own version of Gensokyo via the book.
Can't you read the post? Allowing implies that the statements are true but incomplete, modifying means that no statements can be trusted.
>Which means Yukari wants to protect Reimu for whatever reason, I'm down with that, no need for more arguing, jesus.
Yes, and this whole thing started with the belief that said reason was just the barrier.

>>12655447
>Can't you read the post? Allowing implies that the statements are true but incomplete, modifying means that no statements can be trusted.
From what I understand, "allowing" here just means Yukari approves of that Akyuu writes, and Yukari approval doesn't necessarily mean the source correctly reflects with reality or whatever, it just fits with Yukari's narrative, what she wants you to think.
>Yes, and this whole thing started with the belief that said reason was just the barrier.
I quote that because it's referenced in PMiSS while you disregard PMiSS and all Akyuu books because it's modified by Yukari.

holy autism

>>12655724
It's what happen when 2hu canon masters meet each other.

>>12655724
>>12655737
And forgot to say, 2hu got the deepest lore, no really.

A really big cookie.

Qt tiny 2hu a best

>>12649604
>chocolate

>>12653450
dOh jeez

I want her to wake me up in the morning.

Can you imagine how cute she'd be if you pretended not to wake up? First shouting at you from the floor, then struggling to climb onto your bed, then pulling on your fingers, climbing onto your chest, slapping your cheeks with her tiny hands, and whispering into your ear to wake up. And if you want it romantic, she can kiss your or climb into your pants once you don't wake up.

Good fantasy.

>>12672110
Stop making this hard for me.

>>12672149
If you wish hard enough your dreams will come true.

>>12655657
>"allowing" here just means Yukari approves of that Akyuu writes
i.e: Yukari isn't bothered by what Akyuu writes, which would mean that it could be the truth

Thing is it's not allowing, but modifying, that makes the whole thing untrustable.
>while you disregard PMiSS and all Akyuu books because it's modified by Yukari.
Hey, don't blame me, it was ZUN who said you shouldn't trust Akyuu. He showed why with the PMiSS manga.

>>12672443
>i.e: Yukari isn't bothered by what Akyuu writes, which would mean that it could be the truth
Oh bullshit, there's no indication that Yukari wants to publish the truth at all, for example the Moon invasion of her thousands of years ago and her excuse "hurr durr I just want to show youkai that war is bad, and I did it by starting the war myself" when the true reason is implied in CiLR.
>Hey, don't blame me, it was ZUN who said you shouldn't trust Akyuu. He showed why with the PMiSS manga.
ZUN himself PMiSS is inconclusive and the book itself is full of speculation, I just take what I can get, until canon/later events show otherwise.

god this thread is terrible
i blame the crossies that came with the monstergirl faggots

>>12672552
but we're discussing 2hu lore in this thread...