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Learn to Be Nice to Your Wife, or Pay the Price
Japan's Salarymen, With Pensions At Stake, Work on Their Marriages

FUKUOKA, Japan -- Salarymen -- the black-suited corporate warriors who work long hours, spend long evenings drinking with cronies and stumble home late to long-suffering wives -- have danger waiting for them as they near retirement.

Divorce. A change in Japanese law this year allows a wife who is filing for divorce to claim as much as half her husband's company pension. When the new law went into effect in April, divorce filings across Japan spiked 6.1 percent. Many more split-ups are in the pipeline, marriage counselors predict. They say wives -- hearts gone cold after decades of marital neglect -- are using calculators to ponder pension tables, the new law and the big D.
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it must stuck to be a japanese man

>> No.1263859

I imagine the divorce rate in Japan is pretty low though

>> No.1263875

That's what they get for spending every night after work drinking and squeezing hostess titties at the bar. Or whatever it is they do.

>> No.1263894

needs more prenups

>> No.1263896

>>1263859
previously and for now, it is, due to how the laws and practices make females into a 2nd class citizen. as you see more freedoms and equality legislated and approved, the rate will just increase

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1263913

and japan's population just keeps going down

>> No.1263917

See if I had a wife, unlike those japanese assholes.

After work I'd go straight home and relax the evening with my women. We'd sit, eat dinner, watch tv or even just cuddle. I would care for my sweetheart....

...

I'm so fucking ronery ;_;

>> No.1263959

>>1263875
That's exactly what they do. They also hit their wives and expect them to take care of the kids.

>> No.1263961

>>1263917

oh well, we all are

i got other problems right now, i kind ignore the whole opposite sex issue completely and worry about the other stuff

>> No.1263964

>>1263917
Too bad that in Japan you're pretty much forced to go out and get shitfaced with coworkers to promote social networking.

>> No.1263976
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>>1263917
so true man. i would want to cuddle and hug her and help cook and clean. i'd help her become stronger, more independent, and become even a truer woman than when i first me her.

and then i'll die.

>> No.1263991

>>1263859
can't be higher than it is here in the US

>> No.1263999

>>1263964
Yeah, this is the problem. Mandatory overtime and forced "socializing" are the reason salarymen are out late, not usually because they want to.

>> No.1264007

>>1263964
that's where it takes being a strong husband, father, and man comes in. hanging around with your pals and coworkers is something you should be 3rd priority once you've married. the act of marriage says that you are ready to assume the responsibilities of the new relationship.

>> No.1264008

I feel bad for those salarymen.

>> No.1264010

>>1263999
Nah, I've heard that if wives see their husbands back before 10 pm, they assume their husbands are failures and doing poorly. Hence, you can see many Japanese men at night wasting time at bars or sleeping on mass transit.

>> No.1264014

>>1264007
I'm sure your wife will appreciate all that when you don't have a job anymore.

>> No.1264017

>>1264010

If you're doing it right. And your wife loves you, she won't see you as a failure. But I'm gonna just say that 80% of marriages in Japan are purely out of convenience.

>> No.1264026

>>1264017
It's something ingrained in their culture. Staying out until 10 pm = successful man.

>> No.1264034

>>1264017
>But I'm gonna just say that 80% of marriages in
on Earth are purely out of convenience.

Fixed for you.

>> No.1264048

>>1264026
This is the kind of time-wasting that a society that demands everyone to appear that they are hard workers creates, seemingly.

>> No.1264064

>>1264048
I'm sure any kind of society that focuses so much on "face"--one's image to other people-- would create such a situation.

>> No.1264070

As much as I'd like to live in Japan. It's the little things like this that end up making me wish to live in Korea rather than Japan. Well fuck it's like I'm not even speaking english.

>> No.1264079

>>1264014
she should, otherwise she married for the wrong reasons. a job is a job, it's not your life. you can a good worker, but that doesn't mean you can't be a good husband and man

>> No.1264080

Lol @ their 3 rules to avoiding arguments with wife

1. Won't win
2. Can't win
3. Don't want to win

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"To be divorced is the equivalent of being declared dead -- because we can't take care of ourselves," Amano said.

>> No.1264137

"He didn't exist in the family," she said. "It was almost like a family of mother and children, like there was no father. Not only was he not there, I couldn't get in touch with him at all."

OMG, it's almost like in any manga or anime. The father/husband is rarely seen.

>> No.1264142

ITT - anonymous has delusions of being a good husband even though they are NEETS who do not understand the mental stress working creates. Sure anonymous might be kind to their 3D wife for about a couple of weeks. Then try the next fucking forty years while your bitchy nagging wife begins to take advantage of your kindness always demanding more and more each time. Anons need to recognize that their half-assed emotions stem from self pity and ronery and stop making up bullshit that they don't mean

>> No.1264147

>>1264137
...is it true what they say about incest?

>> No.1264160

>>1264137

In before wincest.

>>1264142
You would know, though, because you're some other fuck without a job.

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>>1264142
fuck you. i get all my husband training and tips from Tomoya. I will be the strong Husbando.

just you wait!

>> No.1264336

>>1264079
You'd think she would, but ask her later on when the rent is past due and she hasn't been able to afford groceries in two weeks.

>> No.1264364

>>1264142

I know how you feel, but anonymous is beyond redemption on /jp/. You are better off just staring, but not touching. /jp/ is just a toxic wasteland now.

>> No.1264411

marriage is an outdated and unnecessary institution. The whole point of it originally was to tie a woman to you permanently so that you could own her, and so that men could get the whole having-a-mate business wrapped up and move on with the other parts of their lives. In modern society now that women cannot be owned like property, make their own wages, and are free to divorce, what exactly is the point of marriage? Other than wasting a lot of the judicial systems' time arbitrating dumb lover's quarrels. Government should not recognize, reward or acknowledge marriages in any way. If people want to be together, let em, if they want to break it off, let em. No government needs to waste time or resources moderating this shit.

>> No.1266353

So if I divorce her first, do I get pensions too (provided she is working)

>> No.1267335

>>1266353
women don't work in japan and when they do, it's at mcdonalds. half of nothing is nothing

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