/jp/ - Otaku Culture

Today's Kappa

Today's Sanae

Ahoge Sanae is a miracle of the universe.

They will never forget moonbitches.

Today's Reimu

You know for a comic called Toho Ibara Kasen, there's a severe lack of Kasen on today's chapter.

And that's it for this chapter. I leave this with something

And as usual, we got all the cameos and no idea what happened.

Why so many pointless cameos lately? All these recent mass cameos both in FS and WaHH are disgusting. It's not fanservice, it's teasing.

>>12595336
>no idea what happened.
Spoiler: nothing. Just as usual

>>12595336
Well clearly some shit happened in the sky, since everyone's looking up and there's a moonbitch cameo.

>>12595210
That kappa should have a name. Does she have a name?

There's some shooting star and every single named character including moonbitches just has to look at it. Or maybe it's some "Reimu remembers her time on the moon" shit. WAHH trying as hard as possible to surpass SSIB for the most forced cameos in a single chapter.

Remember when WaHH was exciting?

>>12596147
Well duh, it looks like an event when everyone will gather and watch the sky, there's nothing really wrong with cameos this time since I guess everyone will be interested in it.

>>12596147
No real surprise gensokyo's ladies like some fireworks in the night sky.

>>12596189
Dude, that's what the manga is aiming for. Make some shitty excuse to gather characters so that fans will shut up. Apparently it's working perfectly already. You could say shit like "It's ok this time" in every single chapter.

What's wrong with cameos?

Just take it easy.

>>12596217
Don't like don't read.
I don't mind it, what should the touhous do? Hide because otherwise a butthurt anon will get angry?

>>12596253
It makes Gensokyo looks like a really small place.

And what's wrong with adding bunch of villagers instead of ton of named characters, which some don't really have reason to appear like Seija, Utsuho, Tenshi, etc?

>>12595217
Oi vey its another shoa

>>12596121
She is only known as "mob kappa".

>>12596164
No.

In fact it's only getting more exciting now since there's a semblance of actual plot: Kasen's identity getting debunked bit by bit every 4 chapters or so.

>>12596928
>It makes Gensokyo looks like a really small place.
Well it is, it's already a sealed off land of the tiny country that is Japan.

Who cares about villagers? Cameos are a good thing no matter what you say.
>which some don't really have reason to appear like Seija, Utsuho, Tenshi, etc?
Lies, touhous can do what they want, Okuu came out of the underground in the SA endings so why can't she do it again? Tenshi came down to earth various times in SWR so why not again? Seija is a bitch just like all the other ''villains'' in the series yet they always come down to the hakurei shrine in the end.

>>12597211
reimu has expressed interest in a kappa holocaust before.

>>12597241
Well, the kappa seem like a bunch of cunts and assholes as a whole. No wonder that Panzers hasn't made any Nitori doujins recently.

>>12597257
yeah they seemed fine and just shy before but since WaHH and HM they've become money-hungry assholes, particularly Nitori.

>>12596147
In Japan, falling stars are harbingers of doom. Shit is going down next chapter.

>>12597259
Nitori was a cunt in SA too.

>>12597271
she was scared of Yuugi.

in HM you wouldn't notice the difference in dialogue if you replaced her with Seija.

>>12597257
>>12597276
>smug = cunt

Also Nitori was known since forever for being shy in front of people who doesn't know/she's afraid of but pretty cheeky otherwise.
Also everytime you ignore the scenes where Nitori and the kappa act cutely and only focus on the times they act smug.
Oh look they smiled! Fucking cunts.

>>12597276
Well, Yuugi is an oni. Not being afraid of an oni is unwise. Unless you are buds with them. But then again, if they like you they are just going to whisk you away to some unknown place, your fate unknown forever.

>>12597292
She has no hint of being extremely shy anymore like she was in MoF, closest thing to non-shy was her telling the human to leave thinking said human could get hurt further up the mountain, she's just 100% relentless, foul-mouthed bitch now, especially in HM.

>>12597295
Nitori was aboveground, she wasn't even in front of the oni. Meanwhile none of the other 7 characters were scared of Yuugi. This isn't old japanese culture where onis are big scary hairy monsters with clubs, these are cute girls who like danmaku battles and drinking.

>>12597307
You forgot Aya who suddenly decided to shut up when Yuugi appeared. They both live on mountain and they both have dealt with Yuugi/onis in the past.

>>12597303
You don't see her shy because you always see her around people she knows for years now, no reason to be shy with the anymore. Also in HM everyone was driven by adrenaline due to the whole setting.

I'm not denying of course she changed and now she's way more open, but what's so bad about it? It would be weirder if after all this time she would have stayed the same in my opinion.

>>12597313
>You don't see her shy because you always see her around people she knows for years now
No, kappa stay around their kind all the time, and it's just humans they're afraid of.

Also no, going from extremely shy to rebellious, foul mother bitch is no mild transition, that's an outright change of heart.

Also it's not just HM, but WaHH too. Now she's a money grubber with the most explicitly nefarious intentions each time.

>>12597323
>rebellious, foul mother bitch
You're way too harsh with those words dude.

Also MoF happened more than 7 years ago.

>>12597346
>You're way too harsh with those words dude.
How? That's what she is, not even Seija is as foul mouthed as her.
>Also MoF happened more than 7 years ago.
So? Don't tell me you think release date of games is in-universe time.

>>12597323
Or methods for that matter. Not paying them because her shitty masks do not sell? She deserves the hammer of justice firmly planted in her face.

>>12597357
there's a nitori mask in there.

now that's pompous.

>>12595236
Use the long hair aqn geez

I approve of Sanae appearances.

>>12595222
Since when she wears a tie?

>>12597346
Eh, Nitori is just a racist asshole

>>12597357
But it was said those masks were selling like pancakes, also the damn fairies were slacking off.

>>12598258
her SoPM description says she's selfish and considers herself superior to other kappa and every human.

>>12598209
She's had a tie for all of WaHH. Pay attention!

>>12598279
Why does she wear it?

>>12598282
Why not? It's cute and fun.

>>12598264
>But it was said those masks were selling like pancakes
Uh, no they weren't, the exact opposite, watch the ending again.

>>12596121
I've seen people calling her Plum.

>>12598282
schoolgirl trait.

>>12595242
>What expression should I be making

>>12595386
The Touhou manga have always had tons of random cameos.

>>12597259
>yeah they seemed fine and just shy before but since WaHH and HM they've become money-hungry assholes, particularly Nitori.
...you'd describe Nitori in SA as "fine and just shy"? She outright calls Marisa a moron at one point.

>>12598311
>She outright calls Marisa a moron at one point.
That's appropiate.

>>12598282
Bitch copies the rabbit because that rabbit has style.

>>12596253
It's fanservice that is supposed to distract you from all the shitty aspects of the manga. It's on the same level as the Idolmaster 4koma. In fact, the Idolmaster 4koma is a better manga than WAHH. It's in full colour, has humor, better pacing and the cameos actually get a line. Don't have to read 30 pages of Idolmaster to find out that nothing happened.

>>12598282
FOR YOU

>>12598635
>It's fanservice that is supposed to distract you from all the shitty aspects of the manga.
By that logic literally every manga is shitty since they all have cameos one way or another, and what shitty aspects? We haven't even seen this chapter.

>>12598635
>has humor,
Cringe-worthy humour that is nothing but a tremendous negative at that.

I really enjoy the official manga because they feel like reading Kitaro but all the weird spooks are cute girls.

One of these days we'll get a loli in a frilly dress with the ability to shoot her nose hair as venomous darts and then my life will be complete.

>>12598669
The complete lack of good writing in every single chapter which is the main reason why someone resorts to this. If you can't win with writing and art, you have to do shit like that. WAHH doesn't offer anything else. It's SoL without fun or drama, the most boring and irrelevant thing you could write. Of course fanboys will eat up anything as long as it's Touhou so people would probably still read it if there was literally nothing on each page besides Kasen eating random food.

Also there is a big difference between old characters from the same manga/anime showing up again to do shit and completely random characters standing in the background in almost every chapter. Zeta Gundam has old characters show up but they do stuff related to plot. Sayla Mass shows up for nothing but a cameo in one episode but the plot wasn't just an excuse to get that one character there. Shit that matters actually happened.

>>12598736
Do you ever get tired of bringing this up every thread?
Because I've gotten tired of responding to you every time.There's no problem with cameos if there's a place for the characters to appear and there the rest of the chapter is decent, and that's where you and I seem to disagree. WAHH isn't sit on the edge of your seat exciting, but it is interesting.

FS >>>>>> WaHH

I dunno why you guys want shits going down in the Manga. Surely the real meat is the game and the manga are just supplementary works that is intended to expand the world.

Is it because you guys were exited over SSiB and it ended up such a disappointment that you guys wanted a legit happenings that don't suck?

>>12598809
No, it's because it's a boring ass manga and it'd be much more entertaining if it actually continued the plot instead of lingering about in the most boring, rehashed scenarios over and over (Marisa finds or talks about something to Reimu, Kasen knows about it somehow, said thing does whatever, chapter ends and it's never mentioned ever again).

>>12598828
You're mistaking "series I don't like" for "series that is bad". It might not be your cup of tea, but WaHH is good. It doesn't advance the plot because it never intended to.

Have you never been told a horror story or something? They're all like that. Something spooky happens out of nowhere and is never spoken of again. That's what WaHH is, printed creepypasta, with Reimu and Marisa playing the protagonists. It's pretty good at pulling that off.

You might as well whine about how Fuan no Tane doesn't have an overarching plot.

>>12598892
>"series that is bad"
But it is, there's nothing interesting going on at all, there's no pacing, there's no progression, there's no humour, or horror, or anything, there's nothing, there's just, events, with no purpose, or even a moral. You might as well be reading an encyclopedia about japanese mythology. Because nothing is fucking happening other than the characters talking about the mythological creature/event of the week, then completely forget about it the next chapter.
>Have you never been told a horror story or something?
Too bad WaHH is nothing of the sort or even a category comparable. It's not aiming for any genre except maybe japanese mythology exposition, which it's doing a terribly boring job.

The only worthwhile chapters are the ones where the plot progresses ever so slightly or some details are revealed like when Suika met Kasen and when Yukari met Kasen respectively.

>>12598906
WaHH isn't supposed to have a plot, it's pretty much an illustrated counterpart to Lafcadio Hearn's Kwaidan. So was the three fairies. Fairies even had Reimu beating them up when they tried to re-enact the nopperabo story from the Kwaidan.

Kasen is just there to piece things together. WaHH isn't really about her, just like how the SaBND isn't about the fairies and FS isn't about Kosuzu. Stop searching for plot where there is none.

As for whether WaHH is good, well, is it good at doing what Kwaidan does (and Kwaidan was in fact all about Japanese mythology exposition)? Yes. Is it, then, successful at what it wants to do? Also yes. Whether you find it interesting has nothing to do with this.

I find it interesting, though, and that totally matters because it's my opinion.

>>12598948
>WaHH isn't supposed to have a plot
But it does, it's Kasen's purpose and identity, and it gets shown bit by bit. If there was no plot like you say, then there would never be anything about the aforementioned Kasen bit, yet there is.
> just like how the SaBND isn't about the fairies and FS isn't about Kosuzu.
Actually they are, just, again, spread out thin by boring, uneventful chapters.
>As for whether WaHH is good, well, is it good at doing what Kwaidan does (and Kwaidan was in fact all about Japanese mythology exposition)?
No, even if you were to retardedly take out the whole main plot about Kasen, i.e: the fucking main character, it'd still be doing a terrible job at whatever it's doing, because the way it's doing the exposition is mind-numbingly boring, because it's the same uneventful rehash every single time, hell the first time anything even remotely interesting happened since SSiB was that one chapter where Reimu and Marisa fought some evil spirit in FS, and that was like chapter 2, nothing even remotely close since then.

>>12598959
So what you're saying is that you don't like folklore and being about folklore automatically makes any series bad. Well okay.

Also yes, the Kasen plot isn't WaHH is about. It's there, sure, but you don't read the thing for it. WaHH is about the folklore thing of the day, with Kasen thrown in for good measure.

>>12598967
>and being about folklore automatically makes any series bad
Why the strawman? I never said that. Have you really run out of things to argue that you start making things up? I said it's doing a terrible job because each chapter it's the same, uneventful shit, it doesn't matter what genre it is. If it were any other genre I still would shit on it if it had the boring, uneventful rehash problem.
>Also yes, the Kasen plot isn't WaHH is about
Yes it is, it's even in the manga's title, did you never notice?. It's also the only actual plot in the series and it's shown however slightly each time Kasen is onscreen, which is every chapter, some much more than others like the aforementioned Suika and Yukari meetings.

>>12598828
People don't complain about Detective Conan starting off pretty much every mystery with a murder. It's only natural for every incident resolution to start with an incident. The games pretty much start the exact same way.

>>12598977
He's making stuff up, you're saying the same thing over and over again. This is retarded argument on both sides.

>>12598991
>People don't complain about Detective Conan starting off pretty much every mystery with a murder.
Detective Conan's stories are varied, interesting and are an actual mystery each time which the reader can try and deduce for himself which is a characteristic of the mystery genre, the cases even have action, ever watched the movies?

It's not just boring, unevenftul expositions (actually more like chit chat) about some japanese mythological creature/event that just painfully omit the main plot.

How the hell can you even compare the two?

>>12598977
Have you ever read them short urban legends? That's how these plots go. "Guy X saw spooky thing Y and that's that". You aren't dissing "uneventful shit" or whatever, you're dissing the way these stories are told.

It's not a matter of being boring or whatever, it's a matter of taste.

>Yes it is, it's even in the manga's title
Nope, the whatsit of the week gets way more exposition than Kasen, even if it will never get mentioned again. This isn't like super sentai where the story is still about the main characters even though there is a new monster for every episode. WaHH is about the weird Japanese thing of the week, there are no two ways about it.

Kasen gets some mention, but it's sidelined in favor of whatever spooky happenings she happens to be tackling at the moment. You'll just be disappointed if you're following it for her.

>>12599002
The movies are trash. You read Conan to find out the culprit and the method. You read WaHH to find out the culprit and the cause. I don't see that much of a difference.

>>12599017
>Have you ever read them short urban legends? That's how these plots go.
Thing is WaHH is not only not about that, but rather Kasen's purpose and identity, but also the way these short stories are told is extremely boring, repetitive and uneventful.
>the whatsit of the week gets way more exposition than Kasen
No shit sherlock, that's why I'm complaining, it's like saying ''this series is about the unnecessary filler, not the main plot''.
> WaHH is about the weird Japanese thing of the week
Wrong, if it was about that then it would never bother showing Kasen at all or progress the plot. Keep telling yourself that there's no plot when there clearly is one and the one-shots are basically filler bullshit to spread the main plot as thin as possible since ZUN didn't have the skills to make a continuous story to be that long, rather, it's just chunks of said story shown each time.

>>12599029
>ZUN didn't have the skills to make a continuous story to be that long, rather, it's just chunks of said story shown each time
Well now, I was pegging you as just having bad taste but you just crossed the retard threshold.

ZUN had five print work series. All of them were about Japanese mythology getting loose and the main characters getting caught up on it. Three of them had no real plot to speak of, other than fairies dicking around with Reimu/Kosuzu dicking around with her scroll/Rinnosuke going off weird tangents. And now you're saying that ZUN included miscellaneous youkai in WaHH because he can't write?

Nope, that is pure unadulterated bullshit. ZUN includes mythology things because he likes mythology things. If you don't like mythology things then that's fine, but you can't call them bad, or their inclusion a hamfisted attempt to thin out the plot. Kasen has her story, but it's secondary to whatever is happening at the moment, and whatever happening at the moment is Japanese mythology getting loose and Reimu/Marisa getting caught up on it.

Y'all need to take it easy.

>>12599052
Also isn't a part of the Touhou comics (Three Fairies, WaHH and FS) are "Advance Japanese Folklore for Dummies"? Seriously, half of the stuff there is something us westerners never heard of before (And i think not even any average Japanese ever heard of it.)

>>12596928
>It makes Gensokyo looks like a really small place.

>Gensokyo, the area encompassed by the Hakurei Border, is a landlocked territory at least some tens of kilometers in diameter, although its exact size has not been mentioned in canon materials.

Gensokyo is small.

WaHH is about expending the Touhou universe. It's doing a very good job at it. It's doing a very bad job at following a plot.

>>12596121
>>12598291
I've seen them call her 10points-chan.

More pictures from Chapter 25

Judging from these panels, Gensokyo might been a loop all along

Even if it's a loop, why can they go to space?

And here we debate 2hu comics is nothing the manga

>>12600301
Forgot pic

And i end this with Suika the Orion

Oh wait here's Nitori being all lady and shit

Sorry, one more.

So to recap, they are talking about the barrier that separates Gensokyo and the outside world. Who says supplementary works is boring.

>>12600294
Not necessarily a loop, the barrier just kinda bounces you off. The more you press forward away from Gensokyo, the less you advance.

I'm certain it was already somewhat explained in one of the books, but I can't remember when.

Anon tried to explain you that the problem with WaHH is not format or content, but execution. It doesn't matter what WaHH is about and if it has plot or not. It's bad because it's boring to read. Mysteries are completely trivial and dumb, their resolution is disappointingly unamusing, new information is dry and insignificant. And also it doesn't have any humour, drama or anything to fill in unavoidable boring parts. It's just the same way there are good urban stories and there are bad/boring ones. Have you seen Mushishi? It's about japanese folklore too, but it blows WaHH into the orbit.

If ZUN wants to expand his universe he should just continue to write books like PMiSS, SoPM and that Aya's book-I-forgot-the-name. A single article there provides more information than 5 chapters of WaHH/FS.

>>12599052
>I was pegging you as just having bad taste
Yeah silly me, expecting an interesting plot instead of rehashed, shitty, uninteresting one-shots each time with zero purpose.
>Three of them had no real plot to speak of, other than fairies dicking around with Reimu/Kosuzu dicking around with her scroll/Rinnosuke going off weird tangents
And they were just as bad, but at least WaHH has some main plot going on.
>And now you're saying that ZUN included miscellaneous youkai in WaHH because he can't write?
Oh look, even more evidence you can't read and/or are making strawman. I said he can't actually make the Kasen plot long enough to cover all the chapters, so he spreads it as thin as possible by only showing slight chunks of it every now and then.
> If you don't like mythology things then that's fine, but you can't call them bad,
But I didn't, yet again you can't read. I said the WAY it's being done is abobinably bad, repetitive, pointless and is an obvious attempt at padding out shit.

It's basically filler. It wouldn't be so bad if the stories were actually interesting and varied, hell it's more interesting when the chapter ISN'T about a new mythological creature.

>>12600652
>Anon tried to explain you that the problem with WaHH is not format or content, but execution
Thank you, at least someone understands.

I like WaHH. You don't.
Can we just leave it at that already?

>>12601440
original post >>12598809 said ''I dunno why you guys want shits going down in the Manga''.

I responded why, then you got all pissy over it.

>>12601448
I don't care. Enough already.

>>12598801
FS looks better at least.

>>12601466
You take that back.

>>12601448
That was nowhere near the original post.

>>12601480
Uh, it is the original post, it's the start of the argument. Are you blind?

>>12601476
No, i'll say it again.

FS looks better at least.

>>12600301
The Gensokyan space =/= our space.
Also they managed to go to the Moon because Eirin put some shit on it without being noticed.

>>12601494
Then stew in your wrongness!

>>12601466
Azuma Aya's art is so terrible, it boggles the mind why ZUN decided to hire him, he might as well have drawn the manga himself.

>>12601511
Very impressive. Makes Murata's Onepunch Man look like trash in comparison.

>>12600652
>It's bad because it's boring to read.

For you maybe, I like reading it, it's literally the boring daily life when no incidents happen. It doesn't need forced drama or humor, we're talking about touhou not some comedy SoL. ZUN just wants to portray this aspect of Gensokyo, since he can't make a game about their SoL.

Anyway I won't even bother discussing anymore since you guys bring this up every thread, just don't read the damn manga and move on.

>>12601514
ZUN hired Nemu Matsukura. I will never undestand this. It's like he wants stuff to be bad so that his own art won't stand out much. Who looks at this and thinks it's perfect?

>>12601528
>It doesn't need forced drama or humor,
It needs something interesting. It doesn't have anything interesting and it re-uses the formula over and over with no variation. It's terrible, but I guess to a fanboy it's different.
> ZUN just wants to portray this aspect of Gensokyo
If he did he wouldn't bother adding Kasen at all with the series having an actual plot.

>>12601528
Not him, but saying it's Touhou so it's ok is also the same shitty excuse that people always have for anything bad, even for this >>12601537

Opinions.

>>12601493
It was a comment addressing a discussion that was already in progress. Read the preceding posts.

>>12601537
ZUN wasn't that influent back then, gotta hire the cheapest shit.

>>12601514
>him

>>12595202
Stop liking things that I don't like: The thread

>>12601575
People made a 40 minute fanime before SSIB was made. I'm pretty sure there where already talented artists who would do it cheap for ZUN at that time.

>>12601528
Well, that's all about standards. For example you can find the shittiest video on youtube and it will still have few likes. But creators should never focus on that minority only.
Your advice is good for film and music industry. If people don't like something they just don't buy it. This way they express their opinion to the creator. Unfotrunately it doesn't work like that with WaHH, considering its unique status and limited releases.

>>12601537
>>12601514
What? They are gods compared to Aki Eda.

>>12601602
Are you implying that people who like WaHH are the minority?

>>12601592
Nemu's art makes me puke. Early fairy manga is the only manga i only read once ever just because of that. I can't even remember anything that happened in there because it's been quite a while already. I just do not want to look at that art again. The art being this bad is pretty much the only thing i can remember clearly besides the fact that there are 3 fairies.

>>12596253
Because sometimes you can see characters that normally wouldn't be having a good time with people from the village, so there must be a reason for them to be there.

But hey, have this gensokyo slice-of-life manga.

>>12601562
>It was a comment addressing a discussion that was already in progress.
And this argument stemmed from said comment.

>>12601661
Can't even reply to the correct post when the fairy manga is around me. It goes to >>12601602

>>12601602
>They are gods compared to Aki Eda.
Even Aki Eda was better, at least her characters didn't look like moeblobs with limbs.

>>12601670
Are you suggesting all those people like >>12598678 or >>12598736 came back in time to post their responses?

>>12601676
>moeblobs

What

>>12601676
Define moébleb.

>>12601661
But Nemu's art is good. It just looks like an early sketch instead of a finished product.

>>12601692
>>12601703
Look at the way she draws heads and proportions overall, it's all chibi art in the worst, most undetailed way possible.

>>12601712
It looks like utter trash. Why would a manga want to look unfinished? There is no style to be gained, especially in a manga about Touhou. Half the pages are empty space because he can't even draw backgrounds. It's like an extremely bad version of Bleach.

>>12601616
When DDC's demo came out we had tolerable english translation in less than 24 hours. It's amazing result considering that translators had to hack game files. Same thing was after full game release.
On the next day after each Comiket/Reitaisai we get at least two-three translated touhou porn doujins.
Danbooru has several ongoing touhou series which are translated as soon as new pages are uploaded.

Yet when the new chapter of WaHH/FS comes out it can take up to a week to get "version zero point five" translation. And if you're not a part of sicrit club you won't even find it. Just google "wild and horned hermit chapter 22 english" for example and see how many results you'll get on the first page. Does the public translation of ch22 even exist?

Each chapter gets its own thread which usually dies with less than 100 replies. Sometimes it's less than 50 posts. Each thread has almost the same content unless some shitstorm like this one happens. The only exception I remember is that WaHH chapter with Yukari and zashiki warashi. And that was one of the worst discussions in /jp/'s history. Also we often get threads with a random page from newly translated porn doujin and they sometimes have more replies than WaHH/FS.

So do I think that people who like WaHH are minority? No. Touhou community will consume anything with the words "touhou" and "official" in it.

>>12602451
the actual public translations of WaHH and FS are behind like 8 chapters in manga hosting sites and the touhouwiki, if it wasn't for /jp/ I would have never seen the latest ones yet.

>>12602451
>consume

You obviously weren't around for ISM and IB.

>>12602451
The actual reason for that is because scans for it is hard to come by.

Look, if someone from Japan can scan those newly came chapter, i'm willing to translate it ASAP. But that's like implying /jp/ are capable of doing it.

>>12600314
>ill give you my kappa anus for 1000 dollarinos

>>12602730
More like "I'll buy your anusball for 1000 kappabucks"

(kappabucks turn back into cucumbers after a week)

>>12601690
Uh no, that was a different argument, same topic but that's irrelevant.

>>12602451
Manga translations take that long because there's a single person doing them, and nobody else has access to the raw scans.

And people often post the links to the translations in random places (like, say, a current Kasen thread for WaHH), and it's really easy to miss them. When the mainline game comes out, everyone knows it's coming for months and can prepare. Manga chapters just surface at random.

Also, it's only those preview threads that always end in the same argument, because it's impossible to discuss the actual chapter with so little information. It was a bit better when you could still get half the pages properly scanned on Futaba right away (but not by much, since most people still can't read them). When the translation is posted, people always discuss the chapter properly.

>>12603043
>and nobody else has access to the raw scans.
But that's wrong, they get posted here and/or in Voile, then some anon does a summary of the chapter either here and/or there too.

>>12603050
What's posted at the time of chapter release is what can be scraped off Futaba. There was a time when you could get like half the chapter from there, but that time seems to be over and now we only get scraps like in this thread.

Either way, Clarste is still the only person with an access to the full raw.

Finally a decent scan

Because of a comet passing through, People on the Human Village suddenly fascinated with astronomy. Thus they made a Planetarium showcase

They call the Orion the "Ibaraki Douji" Constellation. Because it's Gensokyo thus they call whatever it is instead of what the outside world call it.

And the Big Dipper is the Tenryuu Constellation.

>>12602451
Is it porn? It will get translated withing two days.
Is it anything else? Just pray.

I wonder if there's something worth mentioning that we will never know about in those ZUN emails.

>>12607061
>It will get translated withing two days.
I wish.
http://exhentai.org/g/500756/06ab1296aa/
>Is it anything else?
Non-h gets translated often, especially if you count danbooru's note translation.

The wonders of Not Science

And that's it i guess.

Gensokyo is covered in dome-shaped border

>>12607048
Is reimu redpilled against kappa?

>>12607207
she's the only one who can see the kappa's big ass noses.

>>12607069
I guess they were making a ritual to refresh the barrier since there's dragon and all.

>>12607069
It's really interesting just how high the barrier goes. I guess when most people fly about you need it like that

Well there was more.

>>12607291
>hands touching
whoa whoa.

They're not posted in order here, but at least this one is clearly the last.

So it's all about Gensokyo's border?
Quite interesting to see how this would progress the story, Kasen's arm.

>>12607300
>Will there be a time when the sky will torn apart

So we slowly understands that Kasen wants to get out from the border.

>>12607051
>Ibaraki-douji constellation being pointed out to Ibaraki-douji
>Picture shows Shuten-douji
wut

>>12607398
or maybe it's supposed to mean the barrier.

no barrier = no youkai, or any fantasy being whatsoever like gods, because they'll be exposed to the non-belief of the outside and will stop existing.

>>12607419
It's not like that. Fantastic beings can still exist in the outside world. Moriyas and Mamizou have arrived just a few years ago, and Yukari even sent low-level youkai (zashiki-warashi) outside the barrier when it looked like there's a demand for them (they returned safely). The spiritual belief is still there, it's just harder to feed off now that people are taught science.

Gensokyo, however, would likely stop existing entirely. The ending chapter of SaBND made it look like it's basically superimposed over the outside world. The barrier breaks, and poof, there's suddenly a highway where the human village used to be. That would be a complete disaster for all its inhabitants.

>>12607768
>Moriyas and Mamizou have arrived just a few years ago
Because people started to stop believing in the Moriyas, duh. And tanukis are creatures that are still believed on, that's why Mamizou can come and go as she wants.