/jp/ - Otaku Culture

beatcraft voltex in clapistan when

2nd for darqs being a scrub not being able to get kaiden despite having played forever

third for i'd play beatcraft in clapistan but.... man....

satfinal is the best RAM song

5th for when the hell is sdvx3?

6th for going with the fad.

>>12372352
dummy

IIDX Kaiden player trying out games in Japan for the first time here. Posting for that one guy that was interested in how well IIDX skill transfers to Pop'n.

I only played a couple more credits today, was busy with Comiket. Right now, I'm just sightreading everything in the Lapistoria folder, never playing something more than once. Playing low 40s for the first two songs, mid 40s for the final stage, I passed my first 46. Things really ramp up in this range, it seems. I don't know if I'll be passing any 47s before leaving next week.

Anyone playing osu!mania?

>>12375367
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ViA_hkn7lNE

>>12375469
I've seen it before, and it's not as if that would work on any moderately difficult beatmap.
Though I guess it does answer my question of whether or not anyone plays o!m

I bought a cheap dance mat and started using it with Stepmania even though you guys told me that's for scrubs.

I don't care how scrub it makes me, it's fucking fun. I don't even know how to describe it, it's like my whole body has suddenly learned to enjoy existing for the first time. Just easy songs make me run out of breath and sweat like a pig, I can't even imagine how it will be when I can do songs on expert.

Didn't mean to blog, just wanted to say that dance mats are fucking awesome.

>>12376063
stepmania is only bad if you play with keyboard

with a pad it's just a DDR simulator and DDR is great

xth for sdvx2 rip when

>>12375367
Yes, I'm even participating in the World Cup tomorrow and Sunday.
Hint: Our team will lose. Badly.

>>12376068
When SDVX3 is out.

>>12376063
rhythm games that doesn't involve your hands a shit

>>12376558
osu and stepmania a shit

>>12376558
you are a shit

>stepmania
>keyboard
lel look at this broken game twitch.tvSLASHStaiain

Would anyone join a 4K osu!mania room if I opened one up later?

>>12376558
>he doesn't play DDR with hands
lyl

>>12376651
we c-could play 7K as well.. ;_;

if you osu dickheads are gonna talk in here then can you answer a question for me

i haven't actively played it since 09 but the last time i launched it the difficulty rating system changed and it confuses me.
on one hand now there's granularity instead of "everything is a 5 star", the harder stuff i used to play seem to be 4.something while the easier stuff are less than a full 4, which is cool.
but then it goes all the way to 10? and the "garbage fuck off hard" stuff i'd downloaded are like 6s? do 8s 9s and 10s exist? do people play them? why?

>>12376815
A lot of stuff changed like now pp is gained by skill and what you are ranked on a map doesn't matter.
Star system changed because the old one was just wrong and no one cared about it anyways, now stars can actually give you an idea about how hard a map is.

https://osu.ppy.sh/s/150945 for example this impossible to play just for looks map is 45.69 stars, the highest ranked maps are 10-11 which are tag4 maps.

>>12376815
The rating system has improved a lot from what it used to be, but it's still not perfect. Someone might find a 6 star map a lot harder than a 7 star map for instance, but that mostly has to do with the mapping technique used. Anyway, to summarize:
1 easy
2 easy/normal
3 normal
4 hard
5 insane
6 insane+
7 insane++
and so on

7-8 stars and up are mostly for players with a good amount of skill and years of experience. Tournament maps tend to be around 8-9 stars, and there are plenty of people who can pass those.

While we're talking about osu, is there a way to get back the old organization method? The one where I would click a song and it would expand and show me all of the difficulties? I don't really like the new organization.

There's a standard /a/ room up if anyone cares

>>12376922
New organization?
The way you describe it is how it's always been and still is.
There are a couple of tabs in the top right corner, try setting the rightmost one to "no grouping" and the one above that to "title" or "artist" or whatever you want.

>>12376965
For some reason everything in my collections tab is not organized that way. In my collection, it's organized by difficulty so if I click a song I want, the other difficulties won't pop up under it, I have to scroll down and look for the harder difficulties of that song.

>>12376978
which is why I recommended you to use these settings, pic to make it easier for you

>>12376994
I never knew you could change those things, I thought you were talking about the tabs. Thanks.

who SCHOOL IDOL here?
Post you are waifu

>>12376862
in my primarily half decade old library most of the 4s are insane/lunatic/extra/another
(the one 7 is an outlier from 2011 and it's labelled tag4 and i don't know what that means)
i was consistently clearing and even fced a couple of those 5s and i thought i was pretty good at the time lol, reppin 400dpi

anyways fuck osu

>>12377052
That's why I said that the new system isn't perfect.
I just took a look at my own library and I've FC'd a decent amount of 6s, but there are 5s that I can't even pass, you gotta take those ratings with a grain of salt.
Again though, it's much better than the old system where everything above hards were labled 5 and the best indication of difficulty was BPM

´>playing shittu
shiggy

>>12377016
Rank 61 and rising...

I just finally finished building my SDVX controller, and can play now, but is there any way to fix the out of sync-ness on windows 7? I tried setting the launcher to compatibility mode but that just makes it fail to launch.

>>12377533
force 60hz
play in a window
disable visual themes
that's how i run, then i use a borderless window application to make it look nice

>>12377536
I already do all of that. I think I might not have explained what I meant by out of sync-ness well enough, there's no delay on the notes as it were, but the music and the notes just run at different speeds. At the end of every song I have about 5-15s of notes with no music playing at all.

Thanks for your help anyway though.

>>12377565
what kind of specs are you running on? i remember issues like that happening on older IIDX releases at the wrong framerate

>>12376063
You make it sounds like the opinion of people on an anonymous board is important.

Dance games are awesome regardless of what people say. As you play more you'll get in better shape and when you get to clear expert songs your movements will get much more efficient so you won't be any more tired or out of breath than you are now.

>>12377571
My specs should be enough to play fine, I'm running it on an i7 with 16gb of RAM and an amd radeon HD 7970M. It might be possible that its running on the intel graphics card instead, even though I configured it to run on the radeon.

Would there be any way for me to change the frame rate its running at if thats the problem?

>>12377588
try messing with radeonpro to monitor/force framerates

>>12377584
I'm not sure if I like this whole efficient movement thing. Just yesterday I figured out the technique for moving to another arrow while shifting my gravity in the same movement, which significantly improved my agility and made it a lot more fun. But I'm worried that I'll eventually get to a point where the only way to improve is to minimize my movements so much that it doesn't feel like dancing anymore.

>>12377612
>I'll eventually get to a point where the only way to improve is to minimize my movements so much that it doesn't feel like dancing anymore.

only if you're playing ITG

>>12377632
True but since >>12377612 is playing with Stepmania it will really come down to what level song he adds. If you stick to the DDR packs or similar customs you won't run into that issue but most groups still making good simfiles are usually addressed to the ITG crowd.

That's what's really nice about the Stepmania, you choose your songs to fit your preferred style of play.

>>12377596
I can't seem to get it to work any better. Thinking about it now it seems slow in a lot of other areas out of gameplay, but I thought that was intended.

Thanks for your help though.

>>12377672
if i had to guess i'd say it's defaulting to onboard video, it happens if i try to play launcher based games on my laptop
only fix i had was to start another 3d application beforehand to trigger the switch from onboard to dedicated

Oh dear fuck why are people talking about osu?

>>12377689
I think you're probably right. I've had nothing but trouble with switchable graphics. I can't seem to find a way to force the raedon to always used by default instead of the intel one.

Unfortunately opening another 3d application doesn't fix the issue for me. Looks like I'm fucked then.

>>12377717
whelp
update drivers/check bios
if neither of those work them i'm out of suggestions

>>12377715
There's a lot more /a/ on here than usual would be my guess as to why.

>>12377729
It looks like I am well and truly fucked, for the time being at least. Thanks again for all your help.

>>12377717
There should be an option in your GPU control panel to add a program and set whether you want that specific program to run with the onboard or the dedicated one.

>>12377837
It doesn't even recognize SDVX as a program.

>>12377846
hang on a minute
is your monitor in portrait? i remember my sound voltex would get shit-tier frames if even a slither was being rendered offscreen

>>12377846
Oh, you're using AMD. No idea there but NVIDIA has a browse button where you can search for the program you want to change. AMD has to have something similar, though. Do some googling.

>>12377851
>>12377848
I somehow managed to solve the issue now. I went and changed a load of settings and re-installed drivers at the same time. I'm not really sure how what I did fixed it, as nothing else is now using high performance graphics when it wasn't before, just SDVX. Its a bit jittery now, but at least the music is actually in sync now, so I'm not gonna complain.

Thanks for the help, I wouldn't have been able to solve it without both of your suggestions.

>>12377612
High level DDR chart
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MKmk3qug9Qk

High level ITG chart
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8UCz2Qa5T2c

>>12378003
I know what point you're trying to make, but be fair. That "ITG chart" is bracket wiggling StepMania garbage more than anything.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7SdgByZSEx0

>SDVX3

Does that mean we'll finally get 2 on sows?

>>12378491
i'd be really happy if we got it by christmas, seeing as how sdvx3 hasn't even had location tests yet

>>12377830
just having "top of the line specs" isn't how you get bemani games to run on your hardware.

This stuff doesn't require "top of the line" hardware to run. Most of the bemani machines run on hardware that is so specific (and old, lol) that when you run it on anything newer, it actually degrades performance.

currrent iterations of pop'n and DDR run on dell optiplex's with a $10 videocard, essentially. Throw in a top of the line video card and they don't display arrows correctly, or wont go into HD mode without lag.

>>12378491
.............

>>12379096
it has also been said that if you want better performance for sdvx, you use an ssd.

>>12375212
Damn, that iidx kaiden really helps I guess
I've been playing popn for about 2months and I only cleared up to 44s

Is the ddr calorie thing somewhat accurate

>>12380360
It's not very accurate, on most versions you'd have to divide the number you see by 2 for a better estimate. If you're playing harder difficulties and don't take breaks between songs you're probably burning ~450 Calories/h

>>12380423
450 calories/h is an awful lot, even for someone running on a treadmill or lifting weights. Considering ddr is all about efficent movement I don't think you can expect more than 250 calories/h even with zero breaks.

>>12380725
I don't think it would be a stretch for actual dancing to require more calories than simply running.

But that's assuming you're actually lifting your feet, as opposed to just dragging them around.

>>12380766
Tilting your body is a lot of work

>>12380766
people generally overestimate the amount of calories they burn doing any given exercise.
>>12378034
Look at this vid; movements are precise, quick and efficent. It's all about hitting the notes with the least amount of effort spent.
Running doesn't only work the legs either, every major muscle group is activated as stabilizers. The faster you run, the greater the extent of this stabilization is. A strong upper body is vital for any sprinter because that's where much of the momentum needed for fast acceleration is produced.

>>12379096
What exact specs do you need for bemani games?
Say I want to play Sunny Park. Is there a laptop I can get that has close to the right specs for running it somewhat smoothly?

Is it possible to use any of the knobs/turntables on a digital DJ controller to control the knobs on SDVX? I have one of these lying around (Numark Mixtrack Pro) and it would be a lot better to use it for the knobs instead of the two mouse setup I'm currently using.

>>12382182
As long as the knobs freely spin, you can probably write a simple program to do it for you, although it might introduce some lag. A lot of the knobs on stuff like that are potentiometers rather than rotary encoders, which are no good because they have limits.

>>12382458
...
How would one with no programming experience possible go about writing such a program?

>>12382623
Go learn python or something, it'll take a week.

I saw DOLCE at Comiket today. He is so tiny and cute.

>>12377016
Got her the other day. Nozomi a best.

Do you guys have a pastebin or something to read through?

I've got a couple dumb questions but I don't want to be bullied.

>>12383524
If it's anything to do with IIDX or Pop'n, Psun will probably have the answer. You'll have to actually read stuff for yourself though.

>>12383542
Nah, I was just looking for a list of which games are good.
All I have right now is a KB+M, but I wouldn't mind building a controller once I find a game that I like.

>>12383566
Have a go at this
http://bbr.eucaly.net/bbr3rd/bbr3rd/index.html

I used to play this a bunch on keyboard, it's very easy to pick up.
After I got good enough at it I bought an FP7 and started clearing 7s on IIDX.

>>12384060
>fp7
Fuck that thing is cool.

i'm fucking sick of this jkoc and its fucking sticky keys
i need motivation to save up so i'm thinking about how i want a tsugaru themed FP7 is this dumb and if not how should i do it

at first i thought green led on red background but that seemed extra a little christmasy idk

>>12385929
Just make a custom template.

Never played 2 dicks.
I've got a USKOC in the mail coming my way.
How do I decide on if I want to play on the 1p side or 2p side? Or will that just come to me as I play around with it?

>>12386400
it really doesn't matter at all
more people play 1p side so if you play 2p you'll have more people to play against if you ever end up playing on a real cabinet

>>12386400
if you're deciding on playing 2P
because of >>12386425 make sure you are using your left hand to hit keys 1-4. I've seen a few players get stuck on level 11s because they are using a 1P side play style but are actually playing on 2P side.

>>12386726
were they right handed?

when i first started looking up good styles i figured that if most styles default to four inputs per hand i should scratch with my dominant hand, but eventually i decided that i'd rather try to let my dominant hand cover additional keys when i'm having difficulty scratching. seems like it's mainly just preference

>>12386863
I think they are right handed, but that doesn't matter.

Your scratch hand should cover 3 keys and the turntable, while your other hand should always be able to cover for 4-5 keys. The hand that is covering for 4-5 keys is mostly static and only the thumb shifts around.

(assuming you are right-handed) Scratching is one of the hardest mechanics of the game and having your dominant hand on the turntable can really give you an advantage. However, you lose the advantage of your dominant hand covering for 4-5 keys. But since this hand is mostly static... I think muscle memory should overcome this disadvantage.

This has been argued since the beginning but it's probably all preference in the end. I'm 1P because it felt the most natural to me when I was starting out. Most top ranking Japanese players are 2P side if that means anything.

so I got an arcin chip but i don't know how to install it in my fps
the only thing I'm unsure about is how to plug it into usb, my dao chip has a pinout for usb but this arcin chip has a usb port. I guess thats how you do it?
someone with access to sows should copy and paste something for me
please help

>>12387421
You'll need a USB micro b cable which is the same connector used on phones these days.

A tip is take all the nuts from where the turntable PCB was to rise up the arcin PCB, the USB cable will be a bit too chunky if you place it the same way as the original PCB.

>>12387421

what songs are you working on /jp/?
for sdvx i'm close to getting a pass mark on croiX, dynasty and gott but always fuck up near the end and drop down to ~50% gauge

>>12375212

Hi. It was nice having dinner with you that one night.

>>12392653
How romantic~

>>12392625
Just generally stuck on all 11s, due to using the two mice + keyboard setup.
Once I get my asc things will be a lot easier.

Newfag from a couple days ago here. I've been playing the fuck out of that bbr game. I think I'll set up LR2 and pick up a KOC+PC adapter pretty soon.

That being said, are there any forums or other sites I should know about? All the forums seem pretty dead, honestly. That zenius site seems to be the best one as far as I can tell at a glance.

Obviously sows is probably the most important one, but I doubt I'll be getting an account there anytime soon.

>>12393473

gotta buy an account

>>12393473
psun forums are good for tech support
also hang out in sows/psun irc

>>12392872
>>12392653
Fucking fags. Burn in Hell.

>>12393479
But I'm poor

>>12393485
Maybe I'm retarded, but I still don't know what psun is. I did a bit of lookingwhen the other guy mentioned it but I couldn't find it.

Can I get a link to the channel? I can't into irc.

>>12393512
programmed sun is an e-amusement server set up to support hdd rips of bemani games on home pcs
https://programmedsun.com/osm/irc.php
you can access the irc from here but mibbit sucks and i advise that you learn to into irc
sows channel is #bemaniso but it's less active than #programmedsun

>>12393512
irc.bemaniso.ws is where we're located.

>>12393473
sows is easier to get into than you think. It took me less than a month (around 2 weeks) between finding out about it and getting in, and I know no one personally in there.

>>12393583
not everyone is a social butterfly
why don't you blog about how many girls you've fucked while your at it
and then go play your team games, probably mobas
fuck you

>>12377133
Rin is aight.
You my nigga

>>12393532
>>12393569
Thanks guys.
I can't seem to connect to the irc from my client though. Do I have to use a certain network or something?

Also what's with the card ID and pin during account activation for psun?

>>12393764
you want programmedsun forums, not the card service

>>12393764
it's just irc.bemaniso.ws make sure you're setting it up right idk

>>12393764
i would just give up now if i was you

>>12393880
Are you trying to bully me, anon?

>sdvx2 gets an update every three days
>still no sdvx3
What the fuck konmai
I hope this thing isn't gonna come with 6 white buttons or some bullshit like that.

>>12394620
I just want the arcade rips to get uploaded already, SDVX2 has so much more than the base game.
Too bad it won't happen until SDVX3 is available.

>>12394653
I guess on the bright side we're gonna have ten fucktrillions of songs including stuff from this year's events when it finally gets uploaded.

anybody here use a taka.s-ish style?

as i'm progressing i'm starting to feel like i need more options (ripping up the side of my thumb more, having a more difficulty rotating an index down to 3)
are you like, comfortable hitting 1 with this part of the hand? is that a good thing to add to my toolbox or are there better things to work on?

>>12398419
TAKA.S playstyle isn't really optimal and I don't recommend it. I don't know how he does it, but you can try learning symmetrical instead if you want something similar.

How do I cope with living in a country with 60%+ import tax, and a corrupt as fuck mail system that may very well "lose" any bemani controllers I try to import?

>>12398524
you stop living in the third world

>>12398524
By not getting an ASC

>>12398702

But then how do I play the rhythm games.

>>12398499
i can def see how this would be a good thing to be able to do, but when i go to scratch won't i just be shifting over to what i'm doing now anyways?

how much is a DAO pop'n shipped to merica?

>>12398722
>buying controllers

just build your own

>>12398977
that's not what I asked

Weird question, but is the heart symbol still in the iOS version of Reflec Beat Limelight?

The unlock system seems to have changed and I can't find some of the stuff I unlocked before the new app, even though I've played just as much.

>>12398722
for future reference you can calculate it by doing the checkout thing and just stopping when you get to the shipping part
its like $90

>>12398977
teach me how, o my master

>>12400206
apply mouth to my dick, nerd

>>12400206
i'm not that guy but
http://www.slagcoin.com/joystick/box.html
you could probably use like a cthulhu pcb or something from any old fighting game parts shop http://www.focusattack.com/toodles-cthulhu-multi-console-pcb/
as for the buttons, i think the proper sanwas are quite expensive/not easy to get?, there are other more accessible and cheap buttons of the same diameter, but they won't be built for hella popn/have optimal microswitches etc
if you have access to woodworking tools and stuff you could probably make yourself a non-ideal but competent controller for pretty cheap. but i'm not really sure how much you'd end up saving vs a dao if you don't have any tools and want realdeal proper buttons

>>12401309
Mexican here, made one for about $120 three years ago, with some help (friend with a US address for receiving the buttons, paid someone else to make the box since I didn't have the tools, etc). Most expensive part is definitely the buttons, 9 jumbo domes from Suzo Happ is between 80-90$.

>>12401897
one day i will marry tsugaru

are .187 quick disconnects the appropriate size for an iidx controller?

>>12404095
they're 4.8mm i think, not sure what that is in inches
the light holders are 6.3mm

Never been around for a major HDD release. Waiting for DDR at the moment.

Does it usually take this long for an HDD to release once it hits (n+1)?

>>12404104
i hope you're right because i ordered some of those from china

>>12404627
Even if you fucked up and got the smaller ones, you can bend them out to fit 4.8 pretty easily. 6.3 is a bit tougher.

How does playing on LR2 compare to the real thing? How about HDD rips?

Assuming you're using a decent controller and monitor with little to no lag, of course.

>>12404829
i did play some pop'n songs on it, and it feels the same as the real thing, is just not the same ui.

>>12404829
If you're comparing HDD rips/arcade to LR2, they are in no way similar. The timing is easier in LR2.
Arcade timing is based on frames. You're allowed to combo easier on LR2 and the clear gauge/timing is based on the tags on the bms file.

if you're comparing the arcade to HDD rips, the timing windows are the same.

The turntable is different for every machine and keys if you are using a different key set up on your controller. Also monitor height and being able to adjust to standing while playing.

Best of the West IIDX tournament is being streamed.

http://hitbox.tv/botwiidx/

does anyone know if there's an arcade in haneda airport?
i'm only gonna be there for 3 hours but i really wanted to try out dance evolution and gitadora
i've heard there's one in pop town

>>12405801
It's live again.

Brackets: http://challonge.com/BotW3rdIIDX

Are they gonna stream SDVX?

Do taiko ASC's exist?

I was thinking of buying a DAO Pop'n Music controller, but the description of the item says there's a 33ms input delay, which you'll see is ENORMOUS for something that costs so much and should be a pro-made controller.

Is there a way to recable it to eliminate the delay, like making it go through the LPT port?
Or better yet, does anyone else make high-quality controllers without delay?

I can't fathom why they'd use USB for a device in which the only thing that counts is data transfer speed.

>>12405801
how do i turn on echo 4 like the big boys?
i can't get it to go past echo 1
serious question please don't tease me

>>12408592
You'd need an actual cab for that.

>>12408592
Even if the controls for changing it was available to hotkey, the actual functionality depends on a specific sound chip.

>>12408521
Can't you just use the PS2 cord with an adapter instead?

>>12408521
just buy an arcin and use it for the popn controller then

botw warmups stream started

Rea wins BotW, how shocking.

how the fuck am i supposed to decide between 1p and 2p side?
are there advantages/disadvantages to either, or should i just keep playing both and stick with the one that clicks?

>>12412878
1p = right handed

>>12412883
there's way too many 2p side players for them to all be lefties.

i went to afest and met up with a bunch of people playing iidx

it was pretty sugoi

>>12412878
Just switch every time you play if you are just starting out. It's up to you on what feels better
>>12412883
I am doing significantly better since I switched from 1p to 2p and I'm right handed.

>tfw you've been chatting in the sows IRC for a month and a half and still no invite

>>12413429
huh are you active or do you just idle
or are you the corea guy

>>12413440
I've been chatting when possible, but there doesn't seem to be much discussion beyond
>hi
>hi
>funnypicture.jpg
>lol

Such is life on IRC I suppose.

>>12413503
oh are you in #programmedsun too? that's 10000x more active than #bemaniso

>>12413513
Well shit.

>>12413503
>Such is life on IRC I suppose.
sounds like a shit irc.
I go to channels that are always plenty active. Its like everyone just says the first thing that pops into their heads.

>>12413526
>everyone just says the first thing that pops into their heads
That sound like a pretty shit IRC.

>find 5-part mega links to tricoro update data
>parts 2-5 download fine
>part 1 gives a random error

hm, a detour to practice 2p would probably be a good way to get more comfortable with symmetric play when i go back to 1p (since i probably will)

>>12413842
oh yeah i need to look for update data too

>>12413987
If you find it, tell me. Having random dead songs and missing avatar pieces is making me twitch.

On the other hand, I'm getting cozy with the fightstick (as a replacement until I can get an arcade controller). Still not quite sure where to put my hands, but I can at least pass 4s now.

>>12413996
lmao dude grab a koc
their pricing/availability has gotten even worse since i got mine not that long ago, but like, if you can get one for close to $50 you really should, don't invest in an ASC before you're even playing the game

>>12414020
Wasn't planning on shelling out for something expensive, KOCs seem like they'd be just fine for now. Honestly, for the moment I just feel like playing on keyboard (I'm from osu!mania), but I feel like I'd be missing out if I wasn't playing with proper hardware.

I'll scroll back through archives and see what people are recommending before I make a purchase, but I'm gonna wait a month or two to make sure this isn't just some random kick.

jkocs can easily 500hz on any old usb adapter but are harder to find at a good price and the uskoc buttons seem to be preferred anyway

a koc is really the only option short of like, a djdao afaik

no idea what this website is but this is a picture of used jkoc for $60 which is pretty solid these days
http://www.rock30games.com/Item--i-310001390?utm_source=google&utm_medium=cpc&utm_campaign=PLA&gclid=CJfMn7z7rcACFZJcfgodDaUAzg
get a usb adapter on amazon and overclock the polling rate to 500hz

hopefully it doesn't have sticky key problems, but easy softmods and cleaning can help alleviate them if they do

(this is what i'm doing. playing 8s now, i'll probably be knocking on 10s by the time i have enough money for an FP7..)

>>12413842
>>12413987
>>12413996

>>12414564
2.4GB?

pdsux

\>>12414564
>160kbps
Oh boy.

If this tuxdude guy in psun irc managed to get a sows invite then what is your excuse? You couldn't possibly be more socially awkward than him.

>>12416819
Most of us are too socially awkward to even join the channel.

i've been communicating with people only anonymously for years and i'm not going to change my ways just so i can get an invite to some shitty private tracker

>>12417024
>sows
>shitty private tracker

have fun playing lunatic rave instead of the real games

>>12416819
It was pretty hard to force myself to join the channel. But then i spent 3 weeks reading what people were talking about there and was too scared to start talking myself. Shit i'm hopeless.

>>12416819
Every post I read of his on the forums is awful, I can't imagine how much worse he can be in irc.
Also for people without accounts, everything but the final sunny park update has been leaked onto public trackers/baidu/PD.

>>12417125
idk what it feels like to have social anxiety on the internet that bad but it's really not such a big deal, nobody's going to think anything strange of you if you jump into a conversation
and you're definitely not going to be the worst chatter
i believe in you anon

>>12416819
I got both my invites on /v/

>>12418963
>both
wow

Morning All!
How's Everyone Doing!
My mom is stunned at how i can clear lv9s on reflec beat lol! she says "how can someone even see that?!?!"
Lol i play it on my windows tablet
my little brother is so annoying

>>12419816
good morning

>>12419816
So...

>>12419816
sows irc sounds like a horrible place to be at

>>12420171
it is pretty bad. i lurked over there for a couple days to try and get an invite, but couldn't force myself to talk to those people.

i'm gonna get a couple drinks in me before my next attempt, there's no way i'll be able to do it sober.

>>12419816
that fucking guy

>>12419639
In my defense, I had no idea that seeding would be all but worthless with the first account and proceeded to download away

>that full version of miracle 5ympho x

My ears

>>12419848
>>12420126
>>12420211

http://www.ebay.com/itm/170854914674?

How much lag will this piece of shit give me on pc?

>>12423881
a lot
look for a single port adapter instead

>>12423881
Not sure about other people's experiences with this but I bought the same one and it works fine. Though I'm quite new to IIDX, I didn't notice any lag playing LR2 with my KOC.

>>12423989
lag matters less with lr2 because the timing windows are wider than goatse
try it with an iidx hdd rip and youll cry

>>12421927
Where was it released in?

>>12423993
Can you find Tricoro outside of sows? I want to give it a try.

>>12424001
google "tricoro pastebin" and the first result has a torrent link
ignore the programmedsun guide attached to it though it's completely outdated
also it's not the latest version of tricoro but you can get the update data from perfect dark if you feel the need

>>12423955
Are there any good alternatives that anyone here can recommend then?

>>12424008
Thanks

>>12423955
wait really? this is what i'm using (oced to 500hz, jkoc) and it seems to be working fine? but i'm still, like, getting Bs on 8s

>>12423222

>>12423995
beatnation RHYZE vs HARDCORE TANO*C

>>12415117
>over 100mbps
Mah boy...

i didnt realise there was still a demand for these files

but heres tricoro update data upto and including blue phase https://mega.co.nz/#!mQ8wEAaZ!Dq62CW8cmB_m44VTjI_VnCDLKcsCc79R_Mg9b8U7PBc

>>12424061
if you're getting Bs because of a lot of greats/goods and not because a lot of misses it might be the adapter's fault
try checking your early/lates on a couple songs and if it's heavily skewed towards one or the other it's probably some kind of hardware issue

>>12426953
While imperfect setups are very common, shitty players are even more common.

Bad timing or being consistently late/early doesn't tell you anything.

>>12427003
yeah when i said that i'm still only getting Bs on 8s that was just to show that i'm a noob and my anecdotal "seems to be working fine" doesn't carry too much weight. i'm not sensitive to tight timing subtleties yet. a couple weeks ago when i was still playing CS empress on a CRT i was getting mostly Bs on 7s so even if the adapter is sub-optimal it's not the primary issue here.

would it be a good idea to focus on getting better scores instead of progressing asap through the difficulties?

>>12428011
if you're only doing 7s, focus on clearing until you hit a wall at around 11s

if you really like timing and want to get better at it, it's generally best to time anything below two levels of the level you're currently at

http://youtu.be/FnHHqIyYHZs

>>12429228
That song and chart are still excellent.

<ngqp> adois have fun on eamuse
<ngqp> LOL adois
<ngqp> wtf
<ngqp> adios

USKOC or JKOC?

>>12431902
USKoc is cheaper, just needs wax paper, and on both of them you'll want a usbemani.
JP will be more difficult to find, more expensive, sticky buttons.

>>12431909
Yeah I know. But I've seen a couple on ebay for only like $20 more than USKOCs.

What's usbemani?

>>12431935
Gives the koc a USB interface with little to no lag
Unless you planned on using it on the ps2 and not using the arcade games. In which case it wouldn't matter.

>>12431902
JKOC
+ better for PC because you can OC to 1000Hz
- Needs modding (sticky keys, stiff turntable)
- More expensive

USKOC
+ better keys but still might need modding, not sure about turntable
+ Easier to find, cheaper
- Bad for PC because you can only OC to 500Hz(?), if not less than that

+both USBemani compatible
+both works perfectly fine on the PS2, you can use a USKOC for JP IIDX games
- both needs good adapters for PC

any way to get iidx 20 as download?
i saw a youtuber who had it..

>>12434271
Yep.

About to pull the trigger on a KOC for like $60.

Is it worth it, /jp/?

>>12435420
US or jp?
And it's probably worth it either way.

>>12435447
US. Think I could find one cheaper anywhere else? The only place I can find that has any is ebay/amazon.

>>12435459
Ebay is the best I can think of. $30-40 if you get lucky and can snipe one. $50-60 for one without any hassle

>>12435459
The ideal is honestly just building one yourself. Chinks make buttons for about 25 bucks for a set that work decent enough, an arduino is 10 bucks, and a rotary encoder is 15. The only hassle is building a box for it all, and getting better springs and switches because the Chinks ship them with retarded 100g switches and 200g springs. Removing the springs and just using the switches is alright on a budget.

I don't own a USKOC, but I've got a JP one and I hate it. It doesn't matter if I spend hours fiddling around with tiny pieces of cardboard and plastic, I can't get the buttons in a half-decent state. The mushy membrane feel makes it easy to drop inputs because you only hit the edge of a key or something.

>>12435746
any guides or anything for all the shit you need and how to put it all together?

>>12435420
Yeah. I got mine for around the same price(it'd be $30 if it weren't for the shipping).

The only downside with it is that you can only clock it to 250hz. And well, the buttons are pretty heavy and strains your wrist. I'd say go with a KOC at the start, and see if you'll enjoy the game or not. Then get an ASC when you can clear 10s and higher.

still trying to get my encoders to work

So are the bemanistyle forums dead or what?

So in laymans terms, usbemani is just a replacement PCB for a KOC that connects to shit through USB?

How easy would it be to mod a US KOC with one? Is OCing to only 500Hz as mentioned here >>12432322 really all that bad?

>>12438407
Pretty much yeah. Replaces all the internals with a direct USB connection that defaults to a 1000hz poll rate. It is a fairly easy mod to do for a US/J/KASC.

If you want one you will have to wait though, 1st batch of v2 sold out already, 2nd batch date tbd

why the fuck is tricoro so big? This is going to take forever at 200 kb/s.

>>12438802
you could skip videos if you want, just keep dummy.wav

>>12438802
What's up with that shady filename? Shit doesn't look legit at all.

>>12439840
>I don't know bemani product codes or the name of the group who releases it.

>>12439840
Dude, calm down and have some KFC or something. It's fine.

>>12438802
>finished downloading overnight
>didn't realize i needed a pcbid to play

God damn it. I should have filled out that form a couple days ago.

>>12440531
there is an offline crack but you'd have to do some investigation into that
it's not like getting a pcbid is hard for anyone outside of asia

>>12440531
Getting a pcbid is pretty easy.
Just sign up and wait a tiny bit.

>>12440531
if you change pcbevent to 0 in your eaconfig file you can play offline but it doesn't save scores
alternatively, if you haven't already filled out your form, reply to this post with your email address

>>12440652
Setting it to 0 still gives me a network error.

I already filled out the form, but I can send a pm asking them to ignore my request. Email is anon4chanstuff@gmail.com
It doesn't really matter either way, though. I'm fine with waiting a day or two. Thanks for the offer.

>>12440726
it should give you an error on the title screen that you can bypass by pressing start
but anyway, sent ;)

>>12440735
Neat, thanks. Time to set up my keys and whatnot.
You wouldn't also happen to have an extra sows invite lying around, would you?

>>12440802
nope, but maybe someone might if you hang out in irc

>>12438427
Thanks for the info. I take it these are sold on sows? Guess I'm gonna be lurking the forums a lot more.

>>12440809
Yeah I figured. I'll head over there once I've been playing for at least a couple weeks. Tricoro is more than enough for me right now.

>>12440847
you can find the update data outside of sows anyway, as far as i'm aware the only thing not on sows is the final update for sunny park

>>12440858
>not on sows
not outside of sows, i mean

>>12440830
yep

Oh god. So many menus that I can't read. Are there any translation guides for all this shit? I have no idea what I'm clicking on

>>12440858
Final Sunny Park is also out there.

>>12441005
a guy on sows is currently working on a translation patch
most of it is written in english or kana though so try harder

>>12441064

This is the only thing I really want off sows, the rip I have is painfully slow and the IRC told me the update helps. I assume its on PD or findable by the product code?

>>12441294
It's findable by product code on the torrent indexer that also has SDVX, Tricoro, and the old Pop'n data.

>>12440726
Check your email

if someone wants to know, the torrent for the last data os sunny park is easy to find, just look for the code of the last update, search on google, and the torrent is in a corean web, and the download is fast enough to get it in one day.

So I just recently started iidx and I've got some ps2 released (empress, troopers, etc.)

What's my best course of action to not pick up too many bad habits? I've just been watching Darqs videos up til now for hand techniques, and I've just been trying to complete every song on a difficulty number, then moving up (complete all 4s, then all 5s, etc.) Is that a good enough way to improve?

>>12442592
That's the best way to improve and enjoy the game.

Pick an optimal technique and play every song you haven't played yet.

I wouldn't say it's best to wait until you finish clearing the song folder before moving on to the next level. If you're trying to improve fast, play songs where you fail often to work on reading/technique.It's also a good idea to also play easier songs to work on timing.

>>12442592
Is darqs the only worthwhile IIDX youtuber? He's the only one I've seen that uploads actual content rather than just gameplay+hand cam.

I'd really like to subscribe to more IIDX or even rhythm games in general channels, if there are any.

>>12442629
He's all I've ever seen, but I only just recently started caring about iidx
>>12442620
And alright. That just seemed like the best method to start on.

>>12442629
DARQs is the only person that does community based videos on IIDX.

If you're interested in watching live game play, the bemani community streams on hitbox, you can find the team page here.

http://www.hitbox.tv/team/bemani

>>12442761
do you know someone that streams pop'n? i like watching beatmania streams, but i want to watch some people play pop'n on streams than watching on youtube

>>12442808
4yvak streams Pop'n on twitch occasionally, no handcam though.

He's the only one I know of.

>>12442945
thanks, at least i can watch someone playing pop'n

>>12442592
I suggest just moving until you hit a wall.
Completing all 4s and 5s is really a waste of time.

>>12443131
my wall seems to be in the 5s please be gentle

>>12446092
i can offer a few pieces of potential advice
1: if you're that guy from earlier playing with a fight stick's buttons i'd say that's potentially extremely detrimental to getting used to mentally mapping the columns to the buttons
2: are you using hi-speed? throw it at like, 2.5 or something. that should be totally manageable for anything that isn't in the 200+bpm range (and if it isn't, get used to it) (before long you'll want to adjust it a bit for higher and lower bpm songs and eventually learn about green number but that can wait)
3: try some easier 6s, you might find some that are challenging in the same ways as the 5s that you're good at are, with some practice getting some down will boost confidence, give you more experience, make you want to try more stuff and grind them out (maybe blue rain? maybe deep striker? idk)

>>12446284
Alright.
Also I'm not the fight stick guy. I've got a KOC, but I just started playing for my first time a few days ago.

>>12446685
how much did you pay for it? i'm still on the hunt for a decently priced one, fuck paying $70 on ebay.

where am i supposed to put the "-w" to make tricoro run in windowed mode?

Where does everyone get sdvx from?

>>12447114
Just buy a cabinet, it's only a few thousand bucks.

get hype

>>12447456
Neat. How long after that comes out will we get spada rips?

>>12447484
Probably September 17th.

>>12447484
Not sure if they're gonna release it after the JP release of Pendual or the PW release of Pendual.

If the latter, it may take a while because SPADA came out really late for PW, around 2 months later than the JP release (iirc).

>>12447456
Couldn't they just call it Beatmania Pendual? What's the " IIDX22" stand for?

It's the 22nd game of the beatmania IIDX series.

There was beatmania before beatmania IIDX, and there's also beatmania III which happened during the early days of IIDX. beatmania and beatmania III both died from the popularity of beatmania IIDX.

The II is also known as a Ⅱ, and ⅡDX meaning two deluxe.

They can do what they did with sunny park or DDR 2013, but I'm glad they didn't.

>>12447576
Are you fucking serious?

>>12447735
No, I'm not fucking anyone right now

>>12447456
oh fuck
time to clear up about 40gb in anticipation

>>12447456
Reminds me of IIDX 16, kind of.

so i'm trying to build a pop'n asc mainly through http://popn.ecxol.net/
where should i buy the buttons? i've been considering the djdao store because they also sell pop'n switch pcbs but the shipping is around 50$(not too bad but ofc i'd choose a different store if i knew any)
i assume using a ps to usb adapter would get the lowest input delay

>>12448027

I built my ASC using stolen buttons from a Chuck E Cheese. But the buttons themselves are identical to the Economy Dome button from Sparkfun. https://www.sparkfun.com/products/11960

For the PCB I used the ZD PS2/USB board from ebay, so I would have native support on both systems. I havent noticed any input delay either. http://www.ebay.com/itm/ARCADE-MAME-DIY-100-ZERO-DELAY-FOR-NEW-ZD-ARCADE-ENCODER-PC-PS2-PS3-TO-JOYSTICK-/181501183506?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item2a42504612

Good Luck.

>>12448041
do you know the difference between economy and regular dome buttons?
i'm sure i'm getting that pcb since the wires come with it

>>12447456
>tfw we'll get spada before ddr 2013

All of my why

>>12448142
Yeah. Was rally hoping for 2013 especially when 2014 begun rolling out on PW

>>12448041
i actually found the official buttons used for korean pop'n music cabinets
http://istmall.co.kr/shop/goods/goods_view.php?&goodsno=9992261 (shits in korean btw)
only 8500 won!(around 9 bucks)
only issue is the shipping, i'll need a friend to ship it from korea back to ontario

>>12447526
I'm pretty certain it wont be until Pendual is on PW.

More Ameto

>>12447735
Are you fucking SIRIUS?

>>12447096
please respond

i've tried putting it in a couple places, but it's not working for me.

>>12448332
What the fuck, that's a fifth of a Sanwa. How's the durability?

>>12449951
Psun can tell you.

Not trying to sound all cool and all "help yourself" It's just that I can't look it up on my phone and drive.

Check the installation guides. I know the sdvx one says where to put it, and it's the same for tricoro.

>>12450132
thanks, anon. i was trying to put it on a new line instead of at the end. not sure why the sdvx one has that and the tricoro one doesn't.

>>12450232
Yeah, pretty glad I set up SDVX for myself before I set up IIDX, otherwise I wouldn't have caught that.

>>12450281
Sdvx where Get?

>>12450742

At your local fastfood chain, KFC

>>12450742
Konami will sue

>>12450746
this

>>12450746
>>12452278
what does this even mean?

>>12452930
no one knows

>>12447096

>>12452930
i don't know if you are just joking, but if not, and you want to know, the code name of sdvx is KFC, so he was just joking about finding sdvx in a kentucky d:

>>12453042
please do not spoonfeed people that much especially with sdvx
he could've figured it out just by searching the archive

>>12453094
sorry man, will not happen again

>>12453094
yo if you wanna talk about spoonfeeding i just taught a guy that the command line exist

>>12425808
After I tried updating it says I'm missing winio32.dll I guess I'll download PD tomorrow and find it on there.

>>12453348
Look in the forum's ultimate trouble shooting guide and you'll be able to find winio32.dll there

>>12453906
Thank you for the tip anon.

SDVXII is up.

Now to wait for the public trackers.

>>12454760
holy fuck my day just got amazing

Also confirmed that Spada will probably be up in two weeks time.

sdvx 2 data out now? brb boosting ratio

FINALLY get to play bangin burst. been wanting to play it forever because it sounds fucking awesome; sows rocks as usual

I hope the online matching isn't as intermittent as booth and since controllers are more readily available there should be more players too

>>12446284
Fightstick guy reporting, is it really that bad? I'm kind of blindly stumbling around eBay looking for a KOC, but until then it's the best I have.

I can pass 10s on keyboard, but it feels like cheating.

Bursting my ratio for SDVX II now or bursting it for SPADA later?

Oh, the hard choices in life

>>12454906
in your case it's just "can't scratch/style is different"
i said that because for me 5s were still in the "getting acquainted with the controller" period where i was still making really stupid pressing the wrong button mistakes.

which may not be that big of a deal, but regardless "play with an actual controller" is a safe thing to say

>>12455056
Yeah, scratching is super dumb. Stuff like the scratch jacks on Sampling Paradise does a number on my hand, I'm just kind of awkwardly smashing my hand into the stick.

I might just spring for an FP7, honestly. It's far from my first rhythm game and I know I'll be spending a lot of time with IIDX. How do the imitation buttons feel compared to Sanwas?

>>12455113
I can't really comment on feel as I haven't tried them myself, but the construction of them is almost identical to Sanwa buttons. The spring is lighter by default though.

>>12454835
That would be awesome.

Now where the fuck is DDR2013

>>12448332

The ecomony buttons are pretty junk, They're wobbly and the switches are crap, but I got mine for free so I really dont mind.

If you end up ordering those Korean buttons please let us know the quality and how much it was shipped to NA.

>>12455345
i've tried them in korea for 4 months and they were great
the old sanwas has far superior tactile feedback but they were a cups compared to the korean b cups(i'm assuming the new sanwas are b cups as well)
b cups are way easier to access

>>12455469
b cups are way easier to access performance-wise i mean
like easier to do stairs and rolls on

>>12454858
Sup Epic Kitten

How's everyone enjoying SDVX2 so far then?
Finding the new 14s harder to do than booth's 15s, pretty happy that there's more difficulty now at least.

>>12455345
I really want to get my LEDs to work, and i don't think your PCB or either http://www.ebay.com/itm/ZD-NO-DELAY-PC-KEYBOARD-ENOCDER-TO-JOYSTICK-FOR-ARCADE-MAME-SUPPORT-SANWA-PARTS-/261485240800?pt=UK_Video_Games_Coin_Operated_MJ&hash=item3ce1bc21e0
would work
my last resort would be buying an arcin, but that's 40~60 bucks so for now i'm looking for a cheaper board

>>12455576
You could use a pacdrive for the lighting, but thats already fairly close to arcin cost.

Best bet is either arcin or USBemani arcade

>>12455600
it doesn't have to be 12V, i can separately buy 5V led lamps for around 7.5bucks for 9 of 'em
but yeah, i just ordered an arcin, i just can't stand waiting anymore, i need bemani

>>12455678
oh, and does an arcin support 12V led lamps? or just 5V

>>12455679
either, just need to power it with 12v obviously. Either use a power brick or breakout from a molex inside the PC

>>12455688
thanks for the great answer, i'll get back to you with the result in about 2~3 weeks

>>12455511
Not at all, because I don't have rotary encoders to play it with. Assuming I'd want to buy some, I should go for 360° ones with a resolution of at least 100 positions and 5V, right?

>>12456791
the ones i'm using are 24 ppr, so that's about 96 values for a full rotation
it's usable by all means but i have been intending to get some industrial quality encoders

can someone share their arduino code?

>>12456896
i uploaded it a while ago, go through the archive

>>12456956
is it a pastebin?

i'll just leave this here

>>12456998
old news, i got 2 hours of sleep tonight for a reason
>>12456973
it was a zip i uploaded to pomf

>>12457017
found it, thanks