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Which touhou girl would best at raising a kid without said kid dying of death or going delinquent?

>> No.12284924

>>12284901
I bet on Seija.

>> No.12284937

I want to impregnate Youmu and leave her with the baby.

>> No.12284947

>>12284937
>leave her with the baby
Are you a nigger? Because that's what niggers do.

>> No.12284950

>>12284901
Sakuya has a stable job, is a perfect maid without any flaws, and the child could live in the SDM in under Remilia's protection, with the rest of the cast as an extended family.

Even without the SDM, Sakuya clearly is highly qualified in all aspects of running a household, one can assume she has at least some knowledge of child rearing.

>> No.12284957

>>12284947
No but I have slav blood.

>> No.12284960
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>>12284901
Would Okuu's baby have immunity to fire, even if it was a halfbreed hellraven?

>> No.12284968

I'd like more S.S. Goodwife stories, where a touhou has a kid with a kid who's conveniently faceless.
Lesbians having kids hurts my biology PhD.

>> No.12284973

>>12284968
There's one more book out there but no scans yet

>> No.12284976

Yuuka, it would be nice for the kid to live on the country side.

>> No.12284984

>>12284973
I'd like a S.S. Goodwife story, but with Youmu.
She's hard-working, I perfectly imagine her working hard to do both her job as a gardener in the Netherworld and taking care of her kids while the faceless husband works in the outside world and only visits her when Yuyuko allows it.

Also Yuyuko would act like the best grandma.

>> No.12284987
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12284987

Patchy would be best mom. She knows how to take care of a kid, and has plenty of knowledge to prepare your kid for college.

>> No.12284989

>>12284960
>Okuu
Isn't there like radiation and stuff you'l have to worry about ?

>> No.12284994

>>12284987
>picture
10/10 would use in a VN

>> No.12285002

>>12284989
Chances are if Okuu has no trouble with it, then the kid won't either.

>> No.12285144

>>12284987
Her kid would go delinquent.
Koakuma would be the best big sister ever, through.

>> No.12285162

>>12285002
He was talking about you, it would be like trying to fuck a really strong industrial microwave.

Enjoy your dick cancer.

>> No.12285168

>>12284989
Utsuho doesn't live in the burning part of hell, she lives in the Palace.

>> No.12285202
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>>12285162
Sacrifices have to be made?

>> No.12285210

>>12285202
Okuu always gets a happy end.

>> No.12285213
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>>12285210
Utsuho's the only getting a happy end involving babies.
I want to see Yuuka and the former Hakurei miko acting motherly.

>> No.12285215

>>12285213
Wait, really? No other Touhou has endings like that?

>> No.12285218

>>12285215
Haven't seen any book dedicated to them raising babies. Except for Reimu having a daughter looking exactly like her, but it was on the last page of a lewd doujinshi.

>> No.12285221
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Patchouli would be a good mother.

Unlike most of the touhous, she has a pretty stable easy-going life. She is very knowledgeable and has assistants in the form of Koakuma, Sakuya, and the fairy maids.

>> No.12285222

>>12285218
Hina has a fanon daughter just like Okuu does, but its usually from one artist. I don't know if he made a story about her though.

>> No.12285225

>>12285221
I dunno about that. With her weak body I fear that she'll die when giving birth.

>> No.12285228

>>12285222
Yuyuko also has a fanon daughter, but she's a complete clone of her mother.
I can't AAAAAAW on a clone.


>>12285221
She wouldn't be able to raise a kid, she can barely sing spells, I doubt she can slap a kid or send it to its room.

>> No.12285235
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12285235

Fact : Mima is best touhou.

>> No.12285259

>>12285235
How does a ghost breast feed?

>> No.12285266

>>12285259
That's extremely simple.
You see, ghosts are magical being, which means that, once in a while, they are allowed to go to the extend of being human, either by giving off heat, leaving footprints, or making milk.
Which leads me to the final part of my argument, which if STOP ASKING QUESTION AND BELIEVE IN MAGIC.

>> No.12285291

>>12285228

But Patchouli could magically conjure a slap to follow around her kid until it does something bad.

Imagine being followed around by a hand that bitch slaps you. It's like Youmu's ghost half, but with smacks.

>> No.12285300

>>12285291
>Imagine being followed around by a hand that bitch slaps you
I'm going to dream that I'm followed by a huge green hand constantly creeping on me, like these hands in Ocarina of Time.

It's possible to avoid them by hiding behind Flandre, I think.

>> No.12285310
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I wouldn't trust Yuyuko to take care of a kid.

>> No.12285356
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>>12285310
Don't say that. Look at how lovely she and her daughter are.

>> No.12285372

>>12285356
I hate when a touhou daughter is just a chibi version of her mother.
Is it that hard to be a bit more original?

>> No.12285375

>>12285356
Clone children shit is so creepy.

>> No.12285398

Okuu is mentally retarded so she'd have to lend the baby to Satori or Orin.

>> No.12285410

>>12285398
but she tries very hard

>> No.12285422

>>12285410
Obama tries very hard to be a good president, but look at what happened.

>> No.12285429

>>12285410

That just isn't enough anon.

>> No.12285433
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>>12285422
You're talking about these morons?
USA has many more citizens, of course there are more dumbasses.

>> No.12285442

>>12285398
Ravens can take care of even cats, all because they have very strong material instincts. Even a retard has instincts.

>> No.12285451

>>12285442
Thousands of fucking animals have a strong "maternal instinct". Even a dog can breastfeed panthers or a cheetah adopt a fucking baboon.

>> No.12285469

>>12285451
Why are you getting angry?

>> No.12285471

>>12285469
Nothing particularly angry about my post dude.

>> No.12285474

>>12285471
>Nothing particularly angry about my post dude

>fucking baboon
>fucking animals

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>>12285474
People say that all the time regardless of context. You don't have to be an autist about it bro.

>> No.12285491

>>12285479
>asks a question
>get an answer
>"dud ur so autist"

>> No.12285495

>>12285491
I didn't ask a question, though.

>> No.12285885
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>> No.12285951

>>12285310

Especially don't trust her to take care of a kid after reading the stuff involving "If they mated" pairings and Yuyuko leaving her and Youmu's son to dry like a piece of clothing using the longer of Youmu's katanas as the rod.

>> No.12286005
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>> No.12286020

>>12286005
No.

>> No.12286664

>>12285291
That's my fetish

>> No.12286880

Patchy would be pretty great, but I think Alice would probably be the best. Alice might be a bit overbearing, though.

>> No.12286920

My favorite 2hu is Reisen, and the doujin circles make both good and bad ends for her being a mom, the former is Mamange, the other is....nah, best not mention it.

>> No.12286991

>>12286880
Would Patchy even be able to deliver the baby? She'd probably die on childbirth.

>> No.12287037

>>12286991
Eirin will come up with something, be a drug to strengthen the body for a while or a C-section.

If you can pay the price of course.

>> No.12287067

>>12286991
Would Patchy even be able to take the sex?
She seems to frail, I'm afraid she might have a asthma attack while you're cuddling with her.

>> No.12287069

>>12287067
Not to mention that sex isn't exactly cuddling. It's an intense physical activity leaving everyone out of breath and bruning many calories.
Can Patchy take it?

>> No.12287181

>>12287067
>>12287069

She's asthmatic not a lung cancer patient Jesus Christ.

>> No.12287315

>>12287181
There's a difference? Honest question, I don't know much about atshma.

>> No.12287932

>>12287315

As long as they have an inhaler, they're fine. Just imagine heavy activity makes your body tighten up and you breathe like you sprinted a mile.

People don't die from asthma attacks, normally.

>> No.12288183

>>12287932
But they don't have inhaler in Gensokyo.
That's why Patchouli's level varies between 4 and Extra.

Can she really have sex and deliver a baby if she starts breathing as if she ran a mile?

>> No.12288202

>>12287932
I always thought of Patchouli being a eugenicist since she reads so many books. She would probably want to be artificially inseminated anyway!

>> No.12288208

>>12288202
I doubt so, artificial insemination is too recent. Patchy's probably at least 100-200 years old. She probably still believes that you shouldn't have sex outside of marriage and that you must flirt a bit before fucking.

And only marry a gentleman with a situation.

>> No.12288246

>>12288208
That's Patchouli we're talking about. Not Miss Marple.

>> No.12288261

>>12288246
>implying there's a difference
>implying patchy doesn't act like an old woman when it serves her purpose

>> No.12288264
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>>12288246
Patchouli summons demons and lives with two vampires (which have trouble with holy symbols)

I doubt Patchy cares about marriage. She'd just need a man that can let a lady read, and doesn't mind a game of danmaku now and again to entertain one another with.

Judging from the thread's interest though. It sounds like Patchy is going to have all the babies.

All of them.

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>>12288264
>It sounds like Patchy is going to have all the babies
Well, would you trust the immature Flandre with a baby? Would you trust the whimsical Remilia with a baby? Would you trust the workaholic Sakuya with a baby? Would you trust Koakuma at all? Would you trust Meiling with a baby?

Patchouli is the only logical choice.

Through Meiling is #2 right behind her.

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>>12284987
She will die at childbirth

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>>12288271
Don't mind me, just practicing to raise my own little gate guards.

>> No.12288290

>>12288273
>mitosis
Urgh

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>>12288290

Don't worry anon. I can machine gun fire babies out me like my danmaku spells. All of this talk of child birth death is a vain disillusionment.

>> No.12288353

>>12288349
As long as these are not clone-kids, it's okay.

>> No.12288363
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No mention of Keine? For shame, /jp/.

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>>12288363
She would give a good education, but she wouldn't be loved.

>> No.12288375

>>12288271
I think Meiling would be a good mother. She'd be less strict than Sakuya and and wouldn't keep her kid locked up in the library reading all the time like Patchouli would.

>> No.12288381

>>12288375
Depends which Meiling.
Canon!Meiling would do, Fanon!Meiling would be shit.

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>>12288372
Nonsense.

>> No.12288388

>>12288383
Trust me, teachers never stop being teachers. The kid won't like her for that.
>"Mom, can you stop talking about school?"
>"You as horrible at home as you are at school, I understand why you don't have any friends"
>"Shut up Mom".

Trust me, I know what I'm talking about.

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*yawns* It's so noisy around here with all the children running amok.

I guess we'll have rename our home the Scarlet Daycare Mansion.

>> No.12288415

>>12288412
>implying Remilia wouldn't go totally insane if Patchy has a baby

>> No.12288434

>>12288415
>"Sakuya, as the master of this estate I cannot let Patchouli show me up. Therefore, I demand you give me a child!"

>> No.12288439
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>>12288434

>> No.12288444

>>12288434
>Patchouli and Remilia ends up fighting over which kid is cuter
>SDM is destroyed
>Flandre is just "well that's not my fault this time".

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>>12288444
Nobody's watching the basement? Everyone's having babies!? IMMA FIND ME A GENSOKYO BOY.

>> No.12288456

>>12288453
>implying Flandre could take a dicking without freaking out because of the pain of gettng her hymen opened
The first guy to make out with her will probably die.

>> No.12288460

Yuuka is great at growing things
she will water and feed the child at the proper times

>> No.12288463

>>12288434

How would that work. I'm interested.

>> No.12288466

>>12288463
Logic and biology go through the window when lesbians are involved.

That, or Sakuya will go abduct some human kid and raises him/her as her own kid.

>> No.12288467

>>12288463
Remilia has the right to seize children from her servants. There wouldn't even be a fight.

>> No.12288469
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>>12288453
Damn it. Is this going to be Touhou 6 all over again?

*spellcard flurry*

>> No.12288491

>>12288469
>new Touhou games will be about several touhous disagreeing about childrens

>> No.12288497

>>12288491
>implying that wasn't already the case in HM
Miko and Byakuren are still fighting over Kokoro, if I remember right.

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>>12288381
I don't think fanon would be _too_ bad. Canon would definitely be better though.

>>12288463
There are several different ways. Sakuya finding a good suitor, a turkey baster full of spunk, Patchy using magic to make Sakuya grow a dick, ect, ect.

>> No.12288507

>>12288498
Canon Meiling is playful, powerful, and is Remilia's close friend. She may be closer to Remilia than Sakuya is.

Fanon Meiling is the SDM's slave, is lazy as fuck, get beaten on a daily basis by anyone, and whenever she's not being beat, is sleeping.
Just add her being alcoholic and you have Gensokyo's worst mother.

>> No.12288516

>>12288507
>Gensokyo's worst mother
That would be Marisa.
>"That mushroom looks totally safe!"
>"Remember, you shoot first, and talk later."
>"Never trust a youkai."

Or maybe Shikieiki.
>"Have you been stealing from the cookie jar? Do you want to go to Hell for your gluttony? Do you what they do in Hell? They'll skin you alive, and set your body on fire, while pumping acid down your throat until your body is nothing but a giant festering wound."
>"Why are you crying?"

>> No.12288520

>>12288516
>Do you what they do in Hell
Do you know*
Dammit.

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>>12288507
>Just add her being alcoholic and you have Gensokyo's worst mother.
More like Gensokyo's easiest mother.

>> No.12288532

>>12288516


>"Never trust a youkai."

this is good advice though

>> No.12288539

>>12288532
Not for life in society.

>> No.12288544

>>12288530
>Seija having a kid
Oh god, I wonder how she would raise it.

>> No.12288548

>>12288544
She wouldn't, because abandoning is the opposite of what you're supposed to do with your child.

>> No.12288562

>>12288539
Youkai have no society

>> No.12288583

>>12288460
Fuck, I want Yuuka to be my dad

>> No.12288587
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Nobody told Cirno how babies were made. So she learned!

You just feed them and um. Um. Ummm.

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>>12288587
Cirno can't breastfeed without breasts. Her babies are gonna die slow painful deaths.

>> No.12288598

_____ would a good mom because she's nice and I think she'd be very caring!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

>> No.12289035

>>12288598

you

>> No.12289134
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A mother's warmth.

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>>12284901
I really like this book

>> No.12289181

>>12288598
omg I agree!!!!!!!

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>>12289167

>> No.12289860
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>>12289850
Byakuren's the perfect mother.

>> No.12289866
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Marisa would be the best mother, I think.

>> No.12289867

>>12289866
>no gas mask
>no vents
At least she got gloves...

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>>12289850
No, wait Okuu, I have to fertilize them first!

>> No.12290185
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Meiling is SDM's #1 mother and would be the one taking care of the kids while everyone is away.

>> No.12290208

>>12288548
What happens if by any reason Seija gets hit with it's own ability?

>> No.12290300

>>12286005
I love Kogasa-chan, but she'd need an especially strict husband to help her raise the kid. She strikes me as a bit of a push-over. Probably let the kid eat chocolate for breakfast and stuff like that.

>> No.12290312

>>12290300
Isn't it canon that she's popular among kids?
Sge might end up spoiling her own kid, yeah.

>> No.12290329

>>12290312
Yeah, kids love her because her scare tactics are cute and amusing.

>> No.12290332

>>12290329
She would be an embarassing mother for a teenager.

>> No.12290336

>>12290332
Meh, as long as the mother loves her kid, it's all okay.

>> No.12290340

>>12290336
Nah, the topic is about tohuous able to raise a child with said child dying from deadly death or going delinquent.

Kogasa wouldn't be able to keep her kid in check if it starts acting like a shit.

>> No.12290469

>>12288264
>have trouble with holy symbols

You realize remilia LIKES crosses, right?

>> No.12290500

>>12288562
They are organized enough to form distinct factions.

>> No.12290520

>>12290500
>implying
Look at Rumia. She's not part of any faction.

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>>12284901
>going anywhere near crazy hellraven
Enjoy your radiation poisoning.

>> No.12290574

>>12290567
I would enjoy that guy's picture a lot more if he wasn't into cannibalism and grimderp stuff.

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>>12290574
>not liking best Touhou artist who shows canon Gensokyo with human-eating youkais instead of cute retards with silly hats
Pleb.
Touhous eat humans, this is canon.
And it's not cannibalism. Youkais are supposed to eat humans. Do you call people who eat animal meat cannibals? Humans are just animals to youkai

>> No.12290612

>>12290606
I take it that you haven't read his Sanae story, hu?
I'm not surprised, subhumans like you are casuals.

At least, other artists are able to do a realist Gensokyo without turning it into a shithole. Zounose is just so edgy and grimderp, he feels like constantly talking about it.

>> No.12290631

>>12290612
I read Sanae story. What's about it?
And it's shithole only for dirty gaijins from our world. Native people are safe. One sacrifice in 9 years is pretty timid comparing to our world's past

And who do realistic Gensokyo without retards with silly hats?

>> No.12290642

>>12290631
>I read Sanae story. What's about it?
Moron needs his spoonfeeding?
Let me put it in simple terms that even a retard like you can understand : it's about cannibalism.

Get it now? Did it make it in your thick skull?

>> No.12290649

>>12290612
>At least, other artists are able to do a realist Gensokyo without turning it into a shithole.
It's not about ~inability~, dude.

>> No.12290654

Cute girls don't eat people

>> No.12290662

>>12290642
>only one doujin has legit cannibalism
>everything he does is cannibalism!11
And Sanae always was not entire human but God's ancestor.

>> No.12290663

>>12290649
Right. It's about grimderp, gorewanking, and despair. Kinda like Asatsuki, but while that kept focusing on emotions and kept gore to a minimum [STOCK LAUGHTER GOES HERE], Zounose focuses on gore and rubs it in your face, basically saying "YEAH THIS IS GENSOKYO, YOUR WAIFU EATS PEOPLE FOR BREAKFAST, AND EVEN THE GENSOKYO NATIVES ARE DEVOURED BECAUSE IT'S DARK, OKAY, ALSO FUCK THE CANON, EVERYTHING IS DARK".

>> No.12290667

>>12290612
>>12290654
Not him but Youkais eat humans. Period.

You can talk all you want about cute little girls but it won't change that fact. I sincerely hope that you'll never meet a real Youkai little girl in your life, being eaten alive doesn't sound like a good death to me however you want to call it.

>> No.12290671

>>12290667
Not him but you're wrong. Period.

>> No.12290672

>>12290667
See >>12290171

>> No.12290674

>>12290667
Good thing youkai don't exist ;_;

>> No.12290678

>>12290312
I'm not sure if she's popular among kids, but I'm pretty sure that she's often called upon to babysit them.

>> No.12290679

>>12290663
>It's about grimderp, gorewanking, and despair.
Uh... no? His books don't always end on a despair note. And there's simply no way you can criticize Zounose for being "grimderp" while liking Akatsuki.

>OKAY, ALSO FUCK THE CANON, EVERYTHING IS DARK
Well, yes, Zounose makes fanbooks where Japan's mythological cast actually resembles Japan's mythological cast. It's true. I don't see why you have such beef with it.

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>>12290671
>canon books says youkai eat people
>no!11 my waifu would never do this!11
Cute denial. And there is some exception even with youkais. High-leveled only need faith (though they need to eat a lot of people to become high-leveled) and some other like Kogasa just don't it eat it for some reason

>> No.12290684

>>12290671
>>12290672
>>12290674
Fuck this, I take it back. I sincerely hope that you're going to meet a Youkai. Enjoy being eaten alive, peasants.

>> No.12290686

>>12290606
>canon

>> No.12290688

>>12290684
Take it easy

>> No.12290691

>>12290684
Please explain Kogasa. She's a youkai but people call her to babysit kids. Shouldn't they be afraid of Kogasa eating them?

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>>12290674
They will live forever in your heart, Anon.

And also under your bed when you're trying to sleep and suddenly remember that horror movie you saw three weeks ago, but that's something else.


>>12290679
>And there's simply no way you can criticize Zounose for being "grimderp" while liking Akatsuki.
And yet that's what I did, and I explained why.

>Zounose makes fanbooks where Japan's mythological cast actually resembles Japan's mythological cast. It's true
>It's true
I hate to burst your bubbles, but all that mythological stuff, you know?
It never happened.

And last time I checked, the Nue was just giving the Emperor nightmares, not eating people.
Zounose just shits on canon to make things even more grimderp because he likes it that way, and you morons are saying "but it's dark, so it has to be true".
And that's wrong. Gensokyo is obviously not your moeblob land, but deciding that tengus sacrifice people, or that there are canned human meat factories in Gensokyo is just a grimderpfag shoving his flacid headcanon in your willing throat.
And unfortunately, you people are loud and extremely obnoxious. I never saw an Asatsuki fan saying that what happens in Water Mirror is totally canon or anything like that.

>>12290683
Who are you quoting? He never said that.

>>12290691
Depends what kind of youkai we're talking about. Some are non-violent (zashiki warashi), some are total faggots (animals turned into youkai, like Mystia).

>> No.12290696

>>12290691
I actually don't want to get into this retarded "but they really do eat people" argument, but karakasa and tsukumogami have no mythological history of eating people.

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>>12290696
Hang on, Tsukumogamis don't? First time I hear of that, honestly.

>> No.12290701

>>12290691
Not all mythological youkai eat people, some of them only eat their fear.

And no one calls her to babysit
>I mean, children are pretty easy to scare
>Someone that goes around startling children is not much of a babysitter and, I'm afraid to say, can only be seen as a simple deviant. In fact, bulletins warning about her are currently being circulated among human parents

>> No.12290704

>>12290695
>It never happened.
I don't see how pointing out that fiction is fiction demonstrates anything. It's true, but doesn't change what I said in any way.

>Zounose just shits on canon to make things even more grimderp because he likes it that way, and you morons are saying "but it's dark, so it has to be true".
No, I don't think anybody here, has actually claimed that Zounose's derivative fanbooks, or anyone else's, are actually true.

>And unfortunately, you people are loud and extremely obnoxious.
While I would like to be a people, since then I could have my own nation and claim cultural repression, I am not a people. I am a person.

>> No.12290707

>>12290701
So she's a pervert instead of being a babysitter?
Not a decent mom, hu.

>> No.12290719

>>12290698
Nah, they just troll you if you treated them bad
>They are usually harmless, though they tend to play small pranks. Still, they have the capacity to get angry and can group up to take revenge against those who threw them away or didn't treat them well.

>>12290707
Eh, she is scaring them not molesting. I don't thing scaring someone is a perversion

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>>12290704
>I don't see how pointing out that fiction is fiction demonstrates anything. It's true, but doesn't change what I said in any way.
Are you blind? You wrote it yourself :
>Zounose makes fanbooks where Japan's mythological cast actually resembles Japan's mythological cast. It's true
Mythology is not "true", since it's mythology.

Beside, you tried to claim that Zounose's headcanon was close to the "real" mythology, while it is bullshit.


>No, I don't think anybody here, has actually claimed that Zounose's derivative fanbooks, or anyone else's, are actually true.

So when that guy from earlier claimed that
>Touhous eat humans, this is canon
It wasn't related to Zounose at all?
Darn people, you talk of an artist, they start talking of something else entirely.

>While I would like to be a people, since then I could have my own nation and claim cultural repression, I am not a people. I am a person.
You're not a person. You are Anonymous. You are a strawman for everything bad that happened since mankind tamed fire. You are Edmond Dantes. A father. A brother. A friend. A dictator. You are all of us. You are Anonymous. You have no right to complain, to cry, or to bargain.

>>12290719
Funny, I'm sure Japan is the only place where mistreated items turns into monsters. Where does that come from, I wonder?
>I don't thing scaring someone is a perversion
Probably not. But trying to scare kids, and kids only is a bit weird.

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>> No.12290738

>>12290683
Kogasa should be proof enough that not all youkai need to eat humans. Yes, it is a very easy way for a youkai to sustain itself, but clearly it's not the only way, and it varies from youkai to youkai.

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>>12290731
She is trying to scare everyone but her scares are so retarded only a child can get scared.
Though she has some success on Myoren Cemetery at nights

You haven't read any official in-universe books or what?

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>>12290739
I wanted to wait until they were all translated so that I could read the Hermit stories as well as the Symposium, and I'm still waiting.

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>>12290208
If we're assuming Seija's kid has the same power, I guess she'd stay until the kid itself runs away from home, since it's not supposed to. Even while they're together they'd treat each other badly.

>> No.12290770

>>12290765
But if they're really reversed, would they love each other and then separating?

>> No.12290777

>>12290770
They'd be the opposite of a normal family.

>> No.12290778

>>12290777
This is getting complicated. Let's just say she abandons the baby and that's that.

>> No.12290779

>>12290731
When I said Touhou eat humans I obviously meant youkai. Humans and their derivatives like celestial and hermits don't eat humans. Though some magician can steal babies and kill them for ritual but I assume it's kinda rare and only for really black magic. Shinigami and Yama don't eat people. Fairies don't eat humans but can play such "pranks" as pushing you from the cliff or putting your clothes on fire. Ghosts often kill and possess people but don't eat them
But youkai eat people which is stated by official books. Denying it would be retarded. Human meat factory is obviously also not canon. But it's canon that Yukari tends to feed youkai with humans from our world

>> No.12290782

>>12290731
>Mythology is not "true", since it's mythology.
I was pointing out that your description of the situation was accurate. And so was mine. You just put it in a way that sounded dumb, which you can do with anything.

>Beside, you tried to claim that Zounose's headcanon was close to the "real" mythology, while it is bullshit.
Well, it is a closer thematic representation of the original Japanese mythology, much of which is shrouded in death. At the very least, it's not farther than ZUN's flower-filled utopia (I'm not saying this is a bad thing - I'm just wondering why you shit on Zounose so vigorously).

>It wasn't related to Zounose at all?
People have been claiming that before Zounose made his first Touhou fanbook. Certainly that was what started the discussion this time around.

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>>12290779
I don't care about touhous eating human, ZUN admitted it, it's canon.
What bothers me is that attacking Zounose because he's a grimderpfag immediately brings a "but he's right, youkai really eat humens" argument, which is irrelevant, on top of not proving anything about Zounose being a grimderpfag.

I know youkai eat humans, I know most outsider fanfiction slef-inserted character would probably die immediately after entering Gensoky, but claiming that Zounose is right with his cannery because ZUN mentionned some outsiders going missing is just stupid.


And my waifu doesn't eat humans anyway.

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>>12290663
Shimadoriru is more about that than Zounose is, I think.

Zounose does shove some violent imagery and cannibalishit in front of your face but he never really embraces it as the focal point of any of his stories, saving it for the climax. Human cannibalism only really comes up in recent Sanae one, which in of itself is a coming of age story with human sacrifice subtext which makes perfect sense for her character, who's practically on the verge between human and deity-like status. She doesn't indulge in eating that shit, and for a vast majority of the book she's directly opposed to the idea. As for Canni-can, though, I don't know what the fuck to think of it. It's a love story. The ring is the proponent for all the shit in the story to begin with. I like it for that aspect but it's really the only one I think is retarded and shits on canon with the human meat grinder factory and embodies all the hate he gets.

Funnily, if it wasn't for his grimdark shit, most of his work would just be a happy romp. The characters don't wallow in self-pity and murder for fun the whole time and it's for good reason; to add that dissonance prior to the climax.

I've been through this argument before. To each his own, but please consider my perspective, that he puts that goreshit in there for good reason. Or keep yours; that's fine as well.

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>>12290786
>dat artist
Isn't he the real edgy grimdark faggot who kills and brutally betas cute touhous for no reason? Like pregnant Kogasa killing herself and the baby with broken handle of her umbrella and stuff
If anyone has mindless violence than it's this guy. Especially because his touhous are cute moeblobs who loves MC but gets killed by him just for lulz

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>>12290792
Who, Hakano Shinshi? No clue. He makes cute Hina pictures though :-)

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Oh, for hell's sake.
>>12290782
>I'm just wondering why you shit on Zounose so vigorously
Because his fans are obnoxious as fuck. Recently, a Yohane fanbook was translated, but a guy mistook him for Zounose, and started commenting about how he expected Remilia to start chewing on Sakuya's throat or something creepy like that. IMMEDIATELY, a Zounose fanboy arrived, and started saying that Yohane was nothing but an amateur, while Zounose was a all mighty powerful aAa artist who already finished WoW twice while beating Chuck Norris with just his left hand and publishing pro-like mangas.

It also doesn't help that, as I said earlier, criticizing Zounose's obsession for dark stuff will always lead to a counter-criticism based on "but ZUN said youkai ate people therefore Zounose is right".

>>12290786
The thing that bothers me with Zounose is that his usual pictures (the one he posts on Pixiv) are normal, and almost cute (because he has a really peculiar style, I give him that).
His books, however, are totally different. It was like reading a tentacle-rape book by Giselebon.

(Who's Shimadoriru?)
But I must admit, at least Zounose avoids senseless violence à la Koishi's Heart-Throbbing Adventures, he works on his plot a lot. It would be dishonest to not admit that : he does have a plot when he writes. Or draws.
But his Gensokyo is still a shithole where it's better to be a beast than a human, and that's the part that bothers me, as I vaguely remember some Anon quoting the Symposium and saying that humans in Gensokyo are powerful enough to not be stepped on by every youkai passing by.

I unfortunately can't find the source, but I'm sure it was explained somewhere that only suicidal outsiders and people who arrive by accident in Gensokyo are devoured. Certainly not the natives.

>> No.12290798

>>12290784
While Satori most likely don't eat people because she lives underground, I think she will kill one if she sees. She hates human impurity, hypocrisy and stuff. Her threat level is very high and human friendship is none, the same as man-eating Jiang Shi

>> No.12290807

>>12290798
Never said Satori was my waifu.
Why would you possibly think something like that?

Also, kyonshis are cute.

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>>12290778
Agreed. Seija would be a terrible mother.

What kind of mother would Nitori be, though?

>> No.12290819

>>12290797
>Because his fans are obnoxious as fuck
Okay, that's great, but it has nothing to do with me, and if you want to claim that Zounose a shit I'd like to hear about he a shit and not how his fans a shit.

>But his Gensokyo is still a shithole where it's better to be a beast than a human
It's really not that bad. People just get eaten once every few years. More people are eaten by bears IRL.

>I unfortunately can't find the source, but I'm sure it was explained somewhere that only suicidal outsiders and people who arrive by accident in Gensokyo are devoured. Certainly not the natives.
Even if Zounose's books are not canon (no shit they're not canon) I don't see why bringing the fact that Gensokyo eats people center stage (noncanically!) automatically and universally makes his books into grimderp piece of shit.

>> No.12290823

Ran would be a good mother

>> No.12290825

>>12290815
A mother building diaper-changing station to avoid being forced to do it herself.

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>>12290823
>implying...

>> No.12290834

>>12290796
Haha, ignorance is bliss at it's finest.
Hina and her daughter in these pics get constantly heavily beaten and raped by MC but they still love him probably because of Stockholm syndrome or something.
Go read his stuff on pixiv.
That is real mindless violence to cute touhou and her daughter
http://www.pixiv.net/member_illust.php?mode=medium&illust_id=12267002

>> No.12290839

>>12290797
His normal pictures and art style alone are definitely charming. I can see what you're getting at.

Shimadoriru is pretty much just goreshit and violence with a nonsensical plot. Art is pretty, though. Check out his Byakuren doujin, Love and Peace. You'll see what I mean.

I definitely see what you're getting at with the power inequality thing. I honestly don't have much to say on that respect.

B-but a-am I obnoxious? ;_;

>> No.12290840

>>12290830
Who are you quoting?

>> No.12290841

>>12290834
>Go read
Needs translation.

>> No.12290843

>>12290825
Wouldn't you do the same if you could?

>> No.12290845

>>12290834
O-oh jesus. I think I'll keep that ignorance, thank you.

>> No.12290848

>>12290830
Whats wrong with disciplining a child when they've done wrong

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>>12290839
>Check out his Byakuren doujin, Love and Peace. You'll see what I mean.
Is it the one with the absolutely breath-taking art taking just 1/4th of the page? If yes, I have read it.
And I hate it.

>B-but a-am I obnoxious? ;_;
Dunno. When I say that Zounose's books are depressing, that his Gensokyo is a shithole, and that he's a grimderp lover, do you answer "TOUHOU FOOD IS MADE OF PEOPLE SO ITS CANON" even through this has nothing to do with Zounose being daaaâaaark and edgy?
If yes, then...


>>12290845
You do well. I checked it. Let's just say that artist could be renamed Captain Hook.

Now, back in topic. Show me something that will warm my old asshole heart.

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>>12290797
Zounose is actually really good when he does cute. Kind of a shame that his art style just comes off as goofy when he tries to do horror.

>> No.12290860

>>12290848
Bedwetting doesn't mean the kid is lazy. Ran just beats Chen because she's a bitch.

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>>12290797
Well, yeah, that's the same thing as in his works.
For native people it's relatively safe since they protected by contract rules and youkai use them only as faith producers. But if you are a outsider than "Omae Wa Mou Shindeiru"
The only native that was eaten in his works is a sacrifice but it's happens only once in 9 years.

>> No.12290866

>>12290860
Maybe she shouldn't wet the bed then

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>>12290845
Why? Read it. It's awesome. Tears of innocent girl and her mother is delicious
http://exhentai.org/s/59ac928e47/554117-29

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>>12290857
I wish he did more cute.
Say what you want about Yohane, that he can't draw a girl who isn't obese or anorexic, that his naked girl are powered by steam, that his obession for fundoshi is a bit unsettling, but at least anyone can enjoy his books.
Zounose is pretty much a bizarro Yohane : his usual pictures are okay, but his books are... really special.
Each time I read one, it feels like something is draining my sanity.

>>12290861
>it's happens only once in 9 years
It still happens. "Just" because it happens once every 9 years doesn't mean it's okay. Especially with a long-lived species like the tengus.
Hell, even 200 years would be too much. Humans are made to walk the earth and take over the stars, not being stepped on the face by a sexy tengu wearing some dark pantyhose emphasizing her extremely sexy ass while a kappa is shoving her hand in said human's ass in order to - excuse me, I'm taking a cold shower I shall be right back.

>> No.12290880

>>12290856
>And I hate it
It's quite canon though
>Symposium book
>Byakuren
>Gensokyo was created by youkai to save themselves, after all. The humans in Gensokyo exist for no further purpose than to preserve the youkai. The humans are being ruled by the youkai.
In official book she also says that human's only purpose to preserve the youkai.

>> No.12290884

>>12290866
Spanking Chen isn't going to change anything. Ran's just unleashing her frustration on the kitty.

>> No.12290888

>>12290873
>Humans are made to walk the earth and take over the stars
Yes, humanity is great and conquers everything, but in Gensokyo this is explicitly not true.

>do you answer "TOUHOU FOOD IS MADE OF PEOPLE SO ITS CANON" even through this has nothing to do with Zounose being daaaâaaark and edgy?
No, I asked you for concrete reasons how it's "grimderp" and you just stopped responding to me.

>> No.12290895

>>12290880
>It's quite canon though
AND HERE WE GO, another obnoxious moron claiming that because a very small part of canon includes Byakuren being a bitch, a stupid book is canon.

Also,
>implying that crooked nun's opinion are facts
Even Buddha can be wrong, so a crooked, manipulative nun.

>>12290888
Maybe because it's obvious and I'm tired of repeating it to people who will ignore it anyway and repeat "but it's canon, so the cannery is real"?

>> No.12290896

>>12290873
Even in our time they are still some distant isolated niggers who sacrifice people for good harvest and stuff. And they do it every year, not once 9 years

>> No.12290899

>>12290896
And that makes it acceptable?

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>>12290869
You are a terrible person.

>> No.12290921

>>12290895
>Maybe because it's obvious and I'm tired of repeating it to people
It seems like prior to this conversation, you have never mentioned "Zounose" or "Yakumi" in /jp/, so I'm unable to see your previous lengthly explanations.

>people who will ignore it anyway and repeat "but it's canon, so the cannery is real"?
Then ignore those people.

>> No.12290925

>>12290921
>Then ignore those people.
I'll do it next time.

However.
who is Yakumi?

>> No.12290927

>>12290888
>Gensokyo this is explicitly not true.
Nah, it's true in Gensokyo as well. Humans are still masterrace, real creators of youkais and gods of gods. They can eradicate most of them if they come up with some plan to ignore them and develop science. Faith is the main fuel for youkai and gods, without it they disappear.
But evil bitch Keine don't who spies from the inside don't let such ideas to bloom.
Keine is real enemy of humans because she pretends to be friendly.
>make sure the humans don't awaken to their actual condition and turn down the wrong path

>> No.12290929

>>12290925
Yakumi Sarai is the name of the circle which consists entirely of the person called Zounose.

Seriously, though, I'm still waiting for you to continue the conversation.

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>>12290915
Yes, I'm

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>>12290929
>Seriously, though, I'm still waiting for you to continue the conversation.
Why would I? You want me to repeat what I said about him being a grimderpfag?

Fine, I'll just copypaste the most important parts :
>But his Gensokyo is still a shithole where it's better to be a beast than a human
>Gensokyo is obviously not your moeblob land, but deciding that tengus sacrifice people, or that there are canned human meat factories in Gensokyo is just a grimderpfag shoving his flacid headcanon in your willing throat.
Basically, Zounose took a part of canon, and exagerated it just for the sake of making edgy stories. Usually, that wouldn't be a problem, but when everyone tells you the cannery is canon when it isn't, it can get on someone's nerves.


Besides, if >>12290719 is right, then Zounose is shitting on mythology on top of shitting on canon, since he depicted tsukumogami as eating canned human meat in his canni-can story, while they are supposed to be quite pacific.

>> No.12290964

>>12290931
Lewd.

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>>12290958
It's more fun than "everyone is retarded moeblobls"

>> No.12290976

>>12290958
>But his Gensokyo is still a shithole where it's better to be a beast than a human
Reimu seems to do juts fine in every incarnation of Zounose's work.

>is just a grimderpfag shoving his flacid headcanon in your willing throat.
You make it sound bad, but this is what everybody who makes any Touhou Project derivative work has ever done.

>Usually, that wouldn't be a problem
So, you're bitching about Zounose because of his fans. Got it.

>they are supposed to be quite pacific.
Dogs will eat anything you feed them. Note that Kogasa refuses to partake.

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>>12290958
>implying you wouldn't eat a human to gain immortality and superpower
Dirty human scum

>> No.12290985

>>12290973
Another annoying thing with you grimderpfags : you can't imagine the fact that someone (for example, a person with a stupid trip that sounds like the name given to male genitals) would enjoy a middle ground between the "retarded moeblobs" and the grimwankery.
Perish the though, no, it's either a dark and edgy Gensokyo where everyone but the main characters can be butchered just because a youkai wants a snack, or a happy land populated with nice horse shitting rainbows where everyone is nice and adorable. It can't be a mix of both, no sir.

>>12290976
I told you it's been pasted. Someone already answered these before. There's a reason I didn't want to repeat myself, I knew it wouldn't add anything.

>> No.12290987

>>12290985
That "someone" was literally me. I went after you again because you DID NOT RESPOND TO WHAT I ASKED.

>> No.12290991

Grimdarkfags don't understand that if human-eating is canon, it changes fucking everything and not some minor details.

It comes off as being contrarian against retarded moefags by being equally retarded to the other direction.

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>>12290976
Kogasa a shit youkai
She doesn't even eat delicious human meat

>> No.12290998

>>12290991
>if human-eating is canon
It is canon. Just not by everyone

>> No.12291000
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>>12290980
A life is has too much value to be sacrified for someone's ego. Especially in Gensokyo, where it's easy to become a youkai and get a long life.

>>12290987
Then I'll answer you :
>Reimu seems to do juts fine in every incarnation of Zounose's work.
No shit, Yukari loves her. You don't eat people you love.
>You make it sound bad, but this is what everybody who makes any Touhou Project derivative work has ever done.
"Everyone else do it" is NOT a good excuse. The fact that there are still people sacrifying each other for some god doesn't mean it's okay to sacrifice a living being to the God Machine.
>So, you're bitching about Zounose because of his fans. Got it.
Yes, that's my #1 complain. I could easily ignore his book and just look at his cute picture if it weren't for his fans "tihihihi zuonose is so edgy, gensokyo is so grimdark".

>Dogs will eat anything you feed them. Note that Kogasa refuses to partake.
Tsukumogami are smarter than dogs : they won't strangle themselves because they are too stupid to understand how a rope works, and they won't bark in the middle of the night because they were waken up by their own farts.
Don't fucking ask.

>>12290991
It is canon. It's just not as widely-spread as grimderpfags believe.
There. Is. No. Cannery. In. Gensokyo.
And the tengus don't give a damn about humans as long as they're out of tengus turf.

>> No.12291011

>>12291000
>No shit, Yukari loves her. You don't eat people you love.
Marisa does fine. So does Sakuya. And in fact, even in Kaminare, an actual villager only bites it every nine years.

>The fact that there are still people sacrifying each other for some god doesn't mean it's okay to sacrifice a living being to the God Machine.
Well, you see, Zounose is not actually killing people when he depicts them being killed inside a comic, so we don't condemn him the way we kill people who actually perform human sacrifice.

>Yes, that's my #1 complaint.
Well, it's a stupid one. You're giving someone for shit for something over which (some retarded Westerners who are fans of his) he has no control.

>There. Is. No. Cannery. In. Gensokyo.
You're right. The human ration and cannery appear in one of Zounose's fanbooks, which is not canon - I know it, you know it, Zounose knows it, ZUN knows it, so I don't know who you're actually talking to.

>> No.12291013

>>12291000
>o shit, Yukari loves her. You don't eat people you love.
Except she never eats Reimu. None of named characters in his works die. Only nameless humans

>> No.12291016

>>12291011
*giving someone shit

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>>12291011
>Marisa does fine. So does Sakuya. And in fact, even in Kaminare, an actual villager only bites it every nine years.
And all the outsiders that are butchered. So edgy.

>Well, you see, Zounose is not actually killing people when he depicts them being killed inside a comic, so we don't condemn him the way we kill people who actually perform human sacrifice.
You're avoiding the topic.

>Well, it's a stupid one. You're giving someone for shit for something over which (some retarded Westerners who are fans of his) he has no control.
You're repeating yourself, you already said that. That's a valid point, but it won't keep me from repeating it until you admit that Zounosefags are annoying and write it. Which you haven't done yet.

>I know it, you know it, Zounose knows it, ZUN knows it, so I don't know who you're actually talking to.
I'm talking to people claiming that zounose is canon. Like >>12290606.

>> No.12291032

>>12290828
hemogurobina1c doujin?

>> No.12291035

I'm not reading this mess, but are people saying Zounose is grimdark?

>> No.12291038

I'm not spoonfeeding lazy babies.

>> No.12291043

>>12291038
>spoonfeeding
I'm tired of people using that shit as an excuse. It's not spoonfeeding, it's you being a fucking piece of shit and an asshole who just doesn't want to help.

>> No.12291048

>>12290998
>>12291000
I don't think you realize just how far-reaching the implications are. If "Yukari abducts people to be eaten and killed" and/or "Spellcard rules specifically leave outsiders out of their protection, so even non wild animal -level intelligent youkai can do what they want with people who accidentally fall in" are true, here's just a few examples of what will also be true:

-Reimu is a willing enforcer upholding a system that murders innocent people
-Yuyuko, a ghost of a human who killed herself because she was so disturbed by her power killing innocent people, is best pals with the mastermind behind killing innocent people
-Shikieiki is a corrupt judge who rules murder a-ok, as long as you belong to the elite
-Byakuren is a ruthless, hypocritical sociopath
-Gensokyo as a whole goes from the last reservate of endangered magical beings into a parasitical entity that needs a constant import of fresh meat from the outside world to function

>> No.12291052

>>12291048
I agree with you for most parts (except for Byakuren and Shikieiki), but that still doesn't mean that Zounose's fucking cannery is canon, or that all youkai eat human meat.
Gensokyo is still a giant parasite living off people it abducts from the outside world, but it isn't as grimderp as Zounose depicts it.

And I'd really like people to stop using these pieces of evidence to justify Zounose's darkwankery.

And stop erasing my capcha, 4chan.

>> No.12291056

>>12291029
>And all the outsiders that are butchered. So edgy.
They do get butchered in official books as well.

>>12291048
They are from the outside. No one gives a fuck about dirty gaijins from outside, even natives
It's even says in game's profiles.
>When humans from the outer world wander into Gensokyo, it's all thanks to fluctuations in the boundary caused by Yukari. There is an enchanting element about the phenomenon which people like to call "Spirited Away";
>Most outsiders that get caught by youkai either get eaten at once, or get eaten once the youkai lose interest in them.

>> No.12291058

>>12291029
>And all the outsiders that are butchered. So edgy.
Well, yes. Outsiders are sometimes killed. How is this controversial? It's practically a staple promise of Touhou fanwork.

>You're avoiding the topic.
The topic is you said that "Zounose is shoving his headcanon down your throat" which is a stupid statement for two reasons:

1. It's not his "headcanon"; he acknowledges that himself. He does not genuinely believe that Gensokyo has a cannery.
2. Shoving not-canon things down your throat is the very essence of Touhou Project derivative stories.

>Which you haven't done yet.
I don't associate with them, so I don't know. And even if I didn't, I wouldn't care. People tell me cons are shit but I've never been, so I don't talk about them either.

>I'm talking to people claiming that zounose is canon.
What he actually said is that "Touhous eat humans" is canon.

>> No.12291059

>>12291056
>They do get butchered in official books as well.
And again, once I criticize Zounose, I get a "BUT IT'S CANON".

It's canon that most outsider make it to the Human Village and can return to the outside world.

In Zounose's works, EVERYONE DIE.
The end.

>> No.12291060

>>12291056
And they try to justify if like only suicidal people get teleported to Gensokyo. Though I don't remember where it was said so I'm not sure

>> No.12291061

>>12291058
>Shoving not-canon things down your throat is the very essence of Touhou Project derivative stories
So, one more time :
>"Everyone else do it" is NOT a good excuse.

>> No.12291063

>>12291061
Then what you're really saying is that people should just stop writing Touhou Project derivative stories. Which is fucking stupid.

>> No.12291065

>>12291063
Who are you quoting? I never said that.

>> No.12291068

>>12291059
Nobody is saying that Zounose is canon. People are saying that your objection is stupid because you are objecting to something that _also_ occurs in canon (supposedly), not that Zounose itself is canon.

>> No.12291070

>>12291059
>It's canon that most outsider make it to the Human Village and can return to the outside world.
Where did you get it?

>In addition, most outsiders do not realize youkai are youkai, with the exception of ghosts
>Unfortunately, these two factors results in many outsiders that end up in Gensokyo being eaten by youkai. Sometimes immediately, or sometimes after the youkai lose interest in them.
Most outsiders are eaten by youkai. Only small number of people can return to home.
When Maribel was walking through Gensokyo in her dreams she was nearly eaten 3 times in only few HOURS.

>> No.12291071

>>12291065
Touhou Project derivative stories are non-canon. By producing a Touhou Project derivative story, the author has persuaded you to look at his non-canon story. This is what Zounose does (what you kindly referred to as "shoving it down your throat"), and nothing more.

>> No.12291075

>>12291068
>Nobody is saying that Zounose is canon
Hu hu.
>>12290606
>>not liking best Touhou artist who shows canon Gensokyo with human-eating youkais instead of cute retards with silly hats
>Touhous eat humans, this is canon.

>>12291070
PMiSS.

>>12291071
>Touhou Project derivative stories are non-canon
You're preaching a believer here. Tell that to the fans yelling "THIS IS CANON" each time you criticize Zounose or even say you don't like him.

>> No.12291078

>>12291061
Yeap, just as >>12291058 said I meant the fact that touhous eat humans is canon.
Human meat factory is not probably

>> No.12291079

>>12291075
You'e right. That person, >>12290606, did not say that Zounose was canon. He made two separate claims:

1. Zounose is the best Touhou artist.
2. Touhous eat people.

>Tell that to the fans yelling "THIS IS CANON" each time you criticize Zounose or even say you don't like him.
There are not here. They are nowhere. They are on the moon. I'm not going to waste my time talking to people who don't exist.

>> No.12291081

>>12291052
What the hell are you even talking about, my post had nothing to do with Zounouse.

>> No.12291084

>>12291081
Then what the fuck are we talking about?
Are we talking about the same thing to begin with?

>> No.12291087

>>12291084
No, we're not. You live a fantasy world where people only ever discuss Touhous eating people context of Zounose, filled with people who believed Zounose is canon, and the rest of us live in reality.

>> No.12291092

>>12291087
You're new in touhou, right?

>> No.12291096

>>12291075
>PMiSS.
Emm, are you sure we reading the same thing? I don't see anything to back up that most people return safely. Quite the opposite.
>Most outsiders that get caught by youkai either get eaten at once, or get eaten once the youkai lose interest in them.
>If an outsider has the luck to reach the human village
>IF HE HAS LUCK
I'm pretty sure it's means most people get eaten.

>> No.12291097

>>12291084
>If "Yukari abducts people to be eaten and killed" and/or "Spellcard rules specifically leave outsiders out of their protection, so even non wild animal -level intelligent youkai can do what they want with people who accidentally fall in" are true, here's just a few examples of what will also be true:
It says right there what I'm talking about. You don't even need to bring Edgenouse into this for things to go full grimderp.

>> No.12291104

>>12291097
No one gives a fuck about outsiders. They like aliens for them. Would you care that someone kills strange aliens?

>> No.12291106

>>12291096
And the fact the Maribel nearly died 3 times in one dreams means outsiders eaten in matter of hours

>> No.12291111

>>12291096
Mostly because :
> Most of these humans are in a state of panic, but it should be natural.
Makes sense they get killed if they're panicking.

By the way, you "forgot" the last part.
>"they can be returned safely to the outside world if they go to the Hakurei Shrine."
>"However, there are also rare cases where outsiders settle into Gensokyo."
Now, it's most probably a failed interpretation on my part, but that still means a minor (max: 40%) part of them survives long enough to leave Gensokyo, while a small part of them settle in Gensokyo.
NOT IN THE HUMAN VILLAGE, but in Gensokyo.

>>12291097
And?

>>12291104
>"Such outsiders are treasured, since they hold unique knowledge."

>> No.12291115

>>12291111
>And?
Well, he was trying to have a discussion about the ugly implications that might exist for canon Gensokyo.

>> No.12291119

>this entire discussion
So wait, Utsuho's planned rampage wasn't a temporary bout of insanity, it was actually her recieving godly wisdom. Purging everything in nuclear fire really would've fixed everything.

My mind has been officially blown.

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>>12291115
Sorry, I'm a bit lost. We were talking about Zounose, then about cannibalism, about how zounosefags will bring up canons to defend their idols, and now we're talking about canon Gensokyo, while I'm watching Ramsay talking about cooking. While we should be talking about which touhou is the best mother. Speaking about that, do you think baby youkais are feed meat, or do they drink milks?

>> No.12291127

>>12291121
What happened is that you thought someone said that Zounose was canon, when nobody said any such thing, and then shit on Zounose for being grimdark edgewank for like fifty posts while people tried to get you to explain yourself.

The conversation then would have segued off of Zounose into Gensokyo in general, except you insisted on continuing to talk about Zounose nonstop.

>> No.12291128

>>12291111
It's pretty obvious by Gensokyo they mean human village. By "living" outside of it you will be main target for everyone from shitty animals to broken vampires

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>>12291127
>when nobody said any such thing
They did. Just not right now, and I remembered that when the other guy posted Zounose's picture.
And Zounose is still a grimderpfag, no matter how often you repeat "but its canon youkai eat people".

>>12291128
You really have a poor opinion of outsiders. I know Marisa's a special case, but she's still human, she lives in a really shitty place and is still not dead.
And Kasen is a hermit, which makes her a delicacy for youkai, and yet she's not fighting for her life on a daily basis.

Gensokyo isn't a welcoming place, but it's not the Zone either. Through I'd like it if it were the case.

>> No.12291146

>>12291140
>They did. Just not right now
Then go back in time and argue with him, not us.

>And Zounose is still a grimderpfag
I have asked you to explain this twice already, and both times you have dropped the conversation because you no longer felt like explaining yourself.

I am now asking you for a third.

>> No.12291149

BTW why does all characters articles in sopm and pismm have "don't aprroach or you will be eaten" things? I'm pretty sure these books supposed to be encyclopedias for natives but aren't they protected by rules? They shouldn't even be threated by conscious youkai, only by mindless animals and poison mushrooms

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>>12291146
>Then go back in time and argue with him, not us.
I'd like to go back in time.

>I have asked you to explain this twice already, and both times you have dropped the conversation because you no longer felt like explaining yourself.
And I already explained twice. You really want to keep this going? I know you're just going to spam "but youkai DO eat people".

>> No.12291161

>>12291151
>And I already explained twice. You really want to keep this going?
Sure, until I get a coherent explanation out of you.

Your two explanations were:

>But his Gensokyo is still a shithole where it's better to be a beast than a human
We can start over from here. Your two major complaints were apparently - "a human is sacrificed every nine years, so it's a shithole", and "outsiders are killed, so it's a shithole." Do you stand by both of these statements?

>Gensokyo is obviously not your moeblob land, but deciding that tengus sacrifice people, or that there are canned human meat factories in Gensokyo is just a grimderpfag shoving his flacid headcanon in your willing throat.
And I pointed out that -

1. it's not his headcanon
2. alternative premises are a staple of Touhou Project doujinshi.

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Orin is best mother.

>> No.12291170

>>12291140
Marisa has very powerful magic. I highly doubt anyone from our world can use magic. Probably you can bring a gun and kill some animals but you will run out of ammo eventually and it won't do shit to any danmaku shooting opponent anyway. I'm pretty sure Zone is safer place to live than Gensokyo.
And Kasen is obviously an oni

>> No.12291176

>>12291170
It's also stated that natives humans developed physically and mentally while outsider only in techonology which is useless in gensokyo. Native humans can easily beat few outsiders at once

>> No.12291179

>>12291140
The difference is that The Zone does not hide the fact that is shitty.

And things are relatively easier to kill (no need for special equipment or magic, except for a anomaly detector and some metal bolts or pebbles), useful artifacts are found in the wild, what kills you can be easily identified (even humans of a enemy faction) and you can make a fair deal of money with artifacts.

Also, vodka aplenty and CHEEKY BREEKY! Are always à plus

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>>12291170
>I highly doubt anyone from our world can use magic
Patchouli was from the outside world before coming to Gensokyo.
Through you can say that the world evolved since, and that magic died out.

>and it won't do shit to any danmaku shooting opponent anyway
Okay. Why? As far as I saw, danmaku doesn't mean to be lethal. Unlike firearms.

>I'm pretty sure Zone
You never got several teleporting Monolith commandos spawning right in front of you? Or a chimera pouncing you in the middle of the night? At least you can avoid Rumia. and possibly outsmart the youkai if you don't panic.

>>12291179
True. Hostile monsters are ugly, it makes it easy to identify her. You wouldn't shoot Mystia on sight.
>vodka aplenty
Mein nigger.

>>12291176
Wasn't it explained somewhere that Gensokyo natives were already youkai hunters to begin with?

>> No.12291190

>>12291185
>to identify her
To identify them*
Dammit.

>> No.12291195

>>12291185
It seems you've lost interest entirely, but I want to leave for the record that you have explained yourself exactly zero times in thirty-six posts.

>> No.12291200

>>12291195
Whatever helps you feel better about yourself.

>> No.12291201

>>12291185
>You never got several teleporting Monolith commandos spawning right in front of you? Or a chimera pouncing you in the middle of the night?

Yes, and I came out on top both times.
Human wave<steady aim and a good rifle
Chimera<well placed shotgun blasts and smart moving

>> No.12291202

>>12291200
It's a fact. You have called Zounose shit a dozen or so times, but steadfastly refuse to justify yourself.

>> No.12291206

>>12291201
You're certainly better than me, then. You might have a chance to survive in Gensokyo.

>> No.12291226

>>12291185
>Okay. Why? As far as I saw, danmaku doesn't mean to be lethal. Unlike firearms.
They will avoid it. And it's said that youkai won't die even if you chop their body in 5 pieces. So bullets won't make them even flinch. Only spirit attacks and magic are working

And Zone is safer as long as you hang out near Sidorovich noob town

>> No.12291230

>>12291226
>So bullets won't make them even flinch. Only spirit attacks and magic are working
So that means that Yorimasa has a magical bow when he shot down Nue and grievelously wounded her?
That wouldn't surprise me.

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>>12291230
He used an arrow inherited from his ancestor. I don't think the bow was anything special.

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>>12291242
Would a bullet blessed by a catholic priest be useful against a youkai? It's still faith, but it's not the same religion.

>> No.12291248

>>12291242
>the thighhigh are just here to hide the scars
Of course, that was the reason.

>> No.12291250

>>12291247
Wouldn't that be the exact opposite since in a sense the bullet of faith confirms the existence of youkais to being with?

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>>12291250
But outsiders don't believe in youkai, and get attacked by them anyway.
Besides, believing in God doesn't mean admitting the existence of Shintoist youkai.

>> No.12291285

>>12290834
You're a fucking asshole. I knew that because of his Merlin picture, there was something fishy with this guy, but I wasn't expecting something like that.

You're a fucking dick for doing that to me in what was supposed be a heart-warming thread full of cuteness.

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koishi would make a good mother but family get togethers would result in meet the aunt from hell in the form of satori

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Yorihime would be the best mother.

>> No.12291315

>>12291242
>>12291248
This thread went into places, but that's pretty sexy.

Porn artists need to use more clever gimmics.

>> No.12291317

ITT, xxx would make a good mother

>> No.12291330

worst thread on /jp/

>> No.12291363

>>12291303
She'd always know when her child is having a wet dream.

>> No.12291369

>>12291363
[horrified scream]

>> No.12291406

>>12291330
Why? Because people had a discussion without anyone being called a faggot, a pedophile, or a retard?

>> No.12291785

>>12291406
Just because it's not obviously shit doesn't mean that it's not secretly shit.

>> No.12291798

>>12291785
Just because it's not as shitty as your average /jp/ thread doesn't mean it's not shitty.

>> No.12291809

>>12291798
I guess you take what you can get.

>> No.12291812

>>12291809
Compare that thread to the Hatate one, you'll see which one is shittier.

>> No.12291813

>>12291798
You're a shit

>> No.12291816

>>12291813
Your emotive answer only proves that I hurt you by saying the truth, and that, therefore, I'm right and you're wrong.

>> No.12291818

this thread was about 2hu mommy ;_;

>> No.12291820

>>12291816
And your constant bullying proves that you enjoy hurting people emotionally, and that, therefore, you're a horrible person.

>> No.12291828

>>12291820
So now, defending a thread is bullying? Boy, I sure do wonder what making fun of a board is.


>>12291818
Patchouli best mommy, PERIOD.
Can you find a better touhou? Protip : you can't. Thank you for playing, GG NEXT MAP

>> No.12291833

>>12291828
She can't even take care of herself properly let alone take care of a child

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>>12291828
>Can you find a better touhou? Protip : you can't. Thank you for playing, GG NEXT MAP

Found one:
>>12288507
>Canon Meiling is playful, powerful, and is Remilia's close friend. She may be closer to Remilia than Sakuya is.

>> No.12291841

>>12291828
>Patchouli
>Mommy

good joke

>> No.12291853

Safest place in Gensokyou outside of the Shrine, the Human village is still Eientei.

- populated by rabbit and youkai rabbit, who don't eat flesh
- Eirin can take care of your sickness, for a fee
- Kaguya doesn't care about you
- Reisen does all the work, or you might help her, since she's not even a youkai, but an alien lifeform, she doesn't eat humans either
- Yearly lunar exhibition festival.

Just ask KANE and/or Mokou to lead you there.

Come home, white man.

>> No.12291858

>>12291853
Tewi eats people tho.

She's a beast youkai.

>> No.12291859

>>12291858
There's no indication of that though, she's a rabbit youkai.

>> No.12291861

>>12291859
Tewi eats mochi and soba in Inaba.

She sure as fuck doesn't mind meat.

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>>12291861
Ll you hace to di to protect yourself is scare Tewi bad enough to make her go into cardiac arrest. A rabbit youkai is still a youkai at heart.

>> No.12291870

>>12291861
Eating meat isn't an indication of eating people though.

I eat meat myself but I don't eat people, at least so far.

>> No.12291874

>>12291869
All you have to**

Fucking slow-ass Ipod

>> No.12291878

>>12291869
>>12291874
So you want to scare a youkai, let alone a 1000 years old (or something) rabbit youkai who's well known for tricking people and making pranks
Good fucking luck nigga.

>> No.12291880

>>12291878
I also meant to type at heart. Joke ruined; I'm gonna go kill myself now.

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So...how many humans does a youkai need to eat in order to have a strong, healthy baby?

>> No.12291936

>>12291905
One a day.

>> No.12292137

>>12291242
A snake coming out of a vagina is the opposite of what I would expect to, which is specifically a snakeless vagina.

>> No.12292510

>>12291853
Rabbits eat people. Beast youkai are the main man-eaters. Maribel was nearly eaten by rabbit youkai when Mokou saved her

>> No.12292585

>>12291853
>implying Kane isn't already busy with his brotherhood

>> No.12292920

>>12292510
No, that's not a rabbit youkai.

It was a mouse youkai that has red eyes like a rabbit:
>It was bigger than a Japanese wolf; a mouse-like black thing. Only its eyes were shining red.
>...No, was it a rabbit? Its eyes were also red. But eye's position looked odd for a rabbit. It had two eyes directly in the front of its head, like how yours are.
>Although I guess all humans are mostly like that.
>The size of its face was same as that of human.
>Or maybe it was a human's face? Yes, a human's face. It was a face. Definitely.
>Do you know of a beast like a large mouse with a human face?
>...At that time, the big mouse raised a familiar, eerie voice.
>Of course, this big mouse was the thing that was chasing me.
>Though, it was not looking at me now, but at the scarlet light.

>> No.12293273

>>12288388
It would be more like
>"My students are better than you"

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