/jp/ - Otaku Culture

Magical Marriage Lunatics - ~12% translated, ~8% edited
Mahoutsukai no Yoru - Fully translated, in TLC
Muv-Luv Altered Fable - 65% partial patch released
>Oreimo PSP - 291/299 scripts translated, 174/299 through TLC+Editing, 171/299 scripts finalized, Kirino + Ayase partial patch released
Oreimo Tsuzuku - Youtube based project, Kirino part 26, Ayase part 23
Princess Maker 5- 91.4% translated, 37.1% finalized
Prism Ark - Chapter 1-7 translated, progress stalled because of technical issues
Rance 5D - 35% translated
Rance 6 - 3% translated
Rance Quest - 10.40% messages and 53.11% strings translated
Rose Guns Days 3 - 60% translated and edited
SubaHibi - Down the Rabbit Hole I patch released, 47664/53520 (89.0%) lines translated and 40597/53520 (75.9%) lines edited
Sukisho! - First Limit - 72.66% translated
Supreme Candy - ~14273/43261 (~33.0%) lines translated
>Tasogaredoki no Kyoukaisen - 13311/19644 = 67.76% lines translated
To Heart2- 67% translated- "The final product is still years away unless I get more help. ", new alpha patch released
Walkure Romanze - 4,268/8037 lines of the prologue translated
Witch's Garden - 5368/64363 (8.34%) lines translated
>White Album 2 - Opening chapter fully translated with a "rough patch", Closing Chapter: 2173/35275 (6.16%) lines translated
Yoakemae Yori Ruriiro Na - 100% translated and edited, 54% QC, partial patch released
Yosuga no Sora - Translation status is Common route 100%, Sora route 100%, Nao 63.60%, Kazuha 100%, Akira 73.62%, Motoka 30.17%, Common and Kazuha fully edited

Another week of fucking up, Dan88.

Official work

MangaGamer
>Armored Warrior Iris - Released
Imouto Paradise - Augest 22nd release
Hitozuma Nurse - Beta complete
D2B vs Deardrops - Beta complete
>Kyoudai Hiai - Beta complete
>Yome no Imouto to no Inai - In scripting
>Royal Guard Melissa - In beta
Princess Evangile - Fully translated and edited, in scripting
Cartagra - editing complete, in scripting
>Kara no Shoujo 2 - 13.8% translated, 12.8% edited
>Space Pirate Sara - In scripting
Free Friends - Fully translated and edited
Free Friends 2 - 16% translated, 16% edited
>Bokuten - 33.5% translated, 10.1% edited
>Da Capo 3 - Prologue + Chapter 0 complete, Common route 10.1% translated, 20.0% translated overall
>Higurashi (retranslation) - 9.5% of Watanagashi TL, Onikakushi editing finished
>Gahkthun - 25% translated, 2% edited
>No Thank You - Fully Translated, 26.4% edited
OZMAFIA - Picked up
>Otakon Announcement - 29% translated
>Otakon Announcement 2 - 83% translated, 2% edited

JAST
Hanachirasu - 99% complete
Django - Couple more months of translation
Sumaga- Fully translated, in editing
Seinarukana- Mostly translated
Starless - In translation
Trample on Schatten- translation about half done
Romanesque - In translation
Shiny Days - Translation finished
Raidy III - TL finished, in insertion
Sweet Home - In translation
Sumeragi Ryoko - Picked up

Sekai Project
World End Economica- Chapters 2 and 3 picked up
Fault -milestone one- - Picked up
Grisaia no Kajitsu - All ages PC release based on the Vita release planned
Planetarian - picked up

Other
Danganronpa 2 - September 2nd release
Moenovel is working on another title
Eiyuu Senki - PS3 version picked up
Tears to Tiara II - Picked up
Work being done on a fanTL of Shin Koihime with hopes of getting it licensed

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>Stuff like this has been either added or updated since the last thread

S H I N Y D A Y S N E V E R

How long is Cartagra still going to be "in scripting"?!
I could have just learned moon at this point.

Comyu when?

>>12281019
Some time after someone starts translating it?

>>12281003
>Armored Warrior Iris - Released
Hot damn, didn't expected this.

Fuck yeah.

>>12281006
Recently from Doddler regarding Cartagra

>I guess I'm getting a bit better at this... the Cartagra port is making progress faster than expected. Maybe end of month isn't unrealistic?

>>12281024
That's just for scripting, right?

Does editing/QC come after?

>>12281027
No, retranslation.

>>12281021

But its already 100% translated!

>>12281027
Translation is finished, though it sounds like Cafe is looking over the scripts (or at least was). When Doddler is done with porting however, beta usually takes a few months. Imouto Paradise looks to have gone into beta in April, and is being released now. Another potential delay is that MG has a number of titles near release, and they tend to release only 1 per month.

>>12281033
No it's not.

>>12281033
>Ixrec

It's about 70% translated at most, 20% made up, and 10% deleted because he couldn't understand it.

>Comyu - 100% translated, Second partial patch out

Since Ixrec stuff never gets edited, where the fuck is the Comyu patch?

>>12281070
IT'S OUT!

>>12281105

Lies make baby Jesus cry.

>>12281003
>MangaGamer Otakon announcements
So, Euphoria and what? On their ask.fm accoun they answered regarding those announcements:
>As for whether or not any are nukige, well, that depends on your definition of nukige. Certainly one of the two does have a fairly large volume of sexual content.
http://ask.fm/MangaGamerStaff/answer/114740240626

>>12281147
What are the chances of Shin Koihime Musou? Less than zero still?

>>12281198
You're getting Fuwanovel's machine translated version. It's too much text to be officially translated, so that's it.

>>12281219
speaking of fuwanovel what game is that one cunt's avatar from?

>>12281219
Machine translated based on machine translated youtube translation.

It's so many degrees of awful that I can't even begin to imagine.

>>12281283
Just be glad we're getting anything. Oh wait, don't since it actually is worse than just leaving it untranslated.

>>12281021
>>12281040
>>12281042

Ded thread.
Ded board.
Ded scene.
Weekly reminder.

>>12281109
That baby died a long time ago.

>Princess Maker 5- 91.4% translated, 37.1% finalized
>SubaHibi - Down the Rabbit Hole I patch released, 47664/53520 (89.0%) lines translated and 40597/53520 (75.9%) lines edited

Waiting warmly.

>>12281147

Whatever it is, it's short. Probably Amber Breaker

Don't get your hopes up.

>>12281687
>Teleporters, immortality and time travel available in year 5032
Waiting warmly.

Kichikuou Rance

>Currently expecting translation to finish early-mid August. This will be followed by review and miscellaneous other things that need to be taken care of.

Final Fantasy Type-0 English Translation "patch" was taken down because of Square Enix threats to sue fan translators.

http://www.skybladecloud.net/type-0-translation-patch-unavailable/

I wonder whether we'll start getting even more fan-censored VNs with "retards can consider this CP!" excuses.
Friendly reminder that Japan, where all censored VNs were originally released, has anti-CP laws too.

Anon, you should add Koi ga Saku Koro Sakura Doki tl project, guy already has common route translated http://koisaku.org/

>>12280998
>Princess Maker 5- 91.4% translated, 37.1% finalized

>>12282254
Was there loli in Type-0?

The Popotan translation seems active again:
http://aytranslations.blogspot.hu/

>Fate/Hollow Ataraxia- 100% translated, script 74.6% validated, Full patch with unvalidated text released

It's been so long I had given up hope, why was I not here when this happened? Forgive me friends...

>>12283028
Hollow Ataraxia is truly the duke nukem forever of visual novels...

>>12283041
At this point I don't even care about it anymore. When I finished reading Fate back in ~2009 I wanted to play it, but it's been 5 years since then and I've moved onto other things. I don't care about Fate or Type Moon stuff anymore...it's not like there's been anything new anyways. Mahoyo was such a mess after all.

>>12283104
Mahoyo is a pretty good game. It's just very different from the older TYPE-MOON stuff.

>>12281690
Given the wording used answering the question, it doesn't seem like it'll be Amber Breaker or anything similar to it. In fact, it gives the impression that both announcements won't be focused on ero content. I wouldn't be surprised if they announced at Otakon the eventual official release of Shin Koihime Musou or Magical Marriage Lunatics by partnering with the fan translations.
Anyway, I'm keeping my expectations relatively low.

The state of the translation scene is just too painful to see.

>>12283510
Gakhtun, Grisaia, official partnership with Key. Yep, such "painful" sight.

>>12283515
Grisaia and Planetarian were already translated, and most people probably won't like Gahkthun very much, since it's practically an otome game.

>>12283517
Uhh, no, only Kajitsu is translated. Grisaia is fucking trilogy, and whole plot is in end of Meikyuu and Rakuen, so its like only prologue was translated.

As for Key, whats important here is that Vava actually agreed to work with westerners at all. It paves the road for more VA licenses.

Gahkthun (as any other WAB game) is mainly action and mystery game, I wouldn't really call it otome and it is not targeted at female audience specifically.

>>12283510
Why is that?

>>12283533
No more AAA titles.

>>12282254
>Friendly reminder that Japan, where all censored VNs were originally released, has anti-CP laws too.
Friendly reminder that up until a month ago, possession of actual CP was legal in Japan, and even now, the penalties are relatively mild (max. 1 year of jail time). Compare to the US, where child porn gets you 5 years...per picture. Some other countries are even stricter in their CP laws, explicitly banning "drawn CP" and in some cases even "written CP".

>>12283530
>Uhh, no, only Kajitsu is translated. Grisaia is fucking trilogy, and whole plot is in end of Meikyuu and Rakuen, so its like only prologue was translated.
Yes, thank the Lord that we will get the all-ages release so I will never be able to read the complete thing.

>>12283545
There were no h-scenes in Rakuen, and only 3 scenes in Meikyuu anyway. Julia's backstory will be less interesting w/out her scene, and Asako will be kinda weird, but otherwise you aren't losing anything.

>>12282254
What the fuck does any of the stuff you're talking about have to do with each other?

>>12283530
>Uhh, no, only Kajitsu is translated. Grisaia is fucking trilogy, and whole plot is in end of Meikyuu and Rakuen, so its like only prologue was translated.
The rest of the series was going to be translated anyways, in uncensored form, so consumers aren't gaining anything with an official license.

>As for Key, whats important here is that Vava actually agreed to work with westerners at all. It paves the road for more VA licenses.
Aren't all the Key games already translated at this point?

>Still no Coμ patch

It's like Muv-Luv all over again.

>>12283561
It's a ploy by Ixrec to get idiots on Reddit to buy him a new computer.

>>12283571
R-really?

>>12280998
>White Album 2 - Opening chapter fully translated with a "rough patch", Closing Chapter: 2173/35275 (6.16%) lines translated
Did they get an editor?

>>12283920
>Well, I generally leave my name in the "Editors" tab once I do a full run, I don't do it otherwise. At the moment, Kagetsuki and I are doing a whole TLC run of Introductory Chapter, we got these three done in a couple days. It's pretty smooth since we mark lines that need attention and then think of a solution over Skype... refer to my OP if you'd like to join the process.

Seems like it.

>>12283543
I will never understand how someone who never actually inflicted actual harm upon another can receive a harsher punishment than someone who did.

>>12284096
Moral police. If you violate the moral conscious of society to such a degree that, even without harming someone, you have committed an offense and are deserving of punishment.

>April 21st, 2014 - I'm currently involved with an official translation project, so progress on Meikyuu will be stalled for some time.-koestl

What is the official project that koestl translate right now?

>>12284270
Gahkthun

>>12284287
I'm pretty sure this is the sound girls make when their lose their virginities in my Japanese eroges.

>Gahkthun

>>12283546
>no h-scenes in Rakuen

Huh. That's news to me.

>>12281006
Fun fact, the time it typically takes a VN to get translated is longer than it takes to learn moon!

>>12284773
Man I love Sachi.

>>12284773
He was probably talking about the main story, not the bonus scenes.

>>12283545
With Grisaia, hopefully whatever Dovac worked out with steam is the ability to release the uncensored version elsewhere. While only getting Steam all ages releases would be a shame, if Steam allows it dual 18+/Steam all ages would easily be the best case scenario for the Western VN market.

>>12281690

Oh shit, I got called the fuck out.

Maybe some of you guys who are curious can play some remote game of 20 questions.

>>12285098
What type of fucking loser posts this kind of thing on twitter.

>>12285101
The one who also posts on /jp/.

>>12285101

Who's more of a loser, the man who posts that on twitter, or the man who follows tweet about such things?

>>12285108
I don't fuckin' know man, probably both of those nerds. I just read this shit man, I don't know.

>>12285114

So would that make you the loser who follows the loser who follows the twitter where a loser posts such things?

>>12285117
No, it makes me the cool as fuck dude that was just browsin' and relaxin' on the jay.

>>12285098
Why are you quoting yourself?

>>12285319

For context?

>>12284811
The bonus scenes are like, 50% of the game, maybe more.

It'd be nice to see some of the rest of the Princess Maker games translated after 5.

2 isn't even fully translated.

I never want to sound like that person that's rushing someone for a release.

Really sad that Amaterasu hasn't been updating recently, at least from what I've seen. I'd love to reread Shiei no Sona Nyl in English sometime within my lifetime.

>>12285632
No. Please let Koestl handle the WAB series.

>>12285634

It's good that it seems like WAB is sneaking its way into more official releases so I can show support.

I just don't like the fact that official releases are picked up and usually take 90 years to complete anyway. Koestl did a great job with Grisaia, and is pretty darn fast from what I've seen, so I'm just going to keep my eyes open.

>>12285643

MG's turnaround usually isn't nearly that bad.

>>12285648

No no, I getcha. And like I mentioned, pretty excited to see what the translator pulls off.

I can't take it anymore where's the Comyu Patch I need it!

>>12285584
So? They are accessed via separate menu and have no relation to story or anything whatsoever, just pure fanfic. Cutting them out will not affect Rakuen in any way.

>>12285648

I dunno, it's looking like cartagra is going to release on the second year anniversary of it's announcement. That may not be JAST-tier, but it's nothing to write home about

What happened to the fortune arterial guy? I wanted to read that thing.

>>12285720
So they're part of the game, you moron.

>>12285720
I guess you could argue that they have no impact on the main story, but I don't see how you could ever call it fanfic. Aside from that, why would you want them cut out at all?

>>12286008
>but I don't see how you could ever call it fanfic
Because they are not canon or anything.
You just click on "h-scene with Kiara" button and you get what-if h-scene with Kiara, which never actually happened in the story itself. There's no pretext to it or anything. It starts with Kiara asking him for some sex, and ends after he cums.
>Aside from that, why would you want them cut out at all?
Because there's zero value in them. None of them are even funny or interesting.

>>12286138
I don't think you understand what a fanfic is.

>>12286149
Since most of these scenes are not by Fujisaki, you could call them official fic, if you don't like "fanfic" term.

>>12286138
Leaving aside the fanfic thing for an argument we've had hundreds of times, it shouldn't be the translator's(or localization company's) job to decide what is "funny" or "interesting" enough to bring over.

>>12286294
Frontwing is neither "translator" nor "localization company".

>>12286302
I have no idea what this is supposed to mean. They're not the people bringing the game over to the west and in fact put the content in the game to begin with.

>>12286321
>I have no idea what this is supposed to mean
Yeah, I've noticed. You wouldn't post retarded complains if you would have any idea.
> They're not the people bringing the game over to the west
They're ones making all-ages versions.

>>12286325
You understand that in an all-ages version they have to remove all of the erotic content no matter what, right? So it's not like they're choosing to leave it out because it's "fanfic" or not relevant to the main story.

>>12286330

Is Frontwing who's behind the train wreak known as Moenovel? That would at least explain why they're pandering to the 'sex is evil and bad and wrong' bullshit by removing it.

>>12286403
Congrats, you won award "most retarded post of the week".

>>12286407
No I think that was won several times over by /vg/ earlier in this thread.

>>12286407

O shit, burn. Man, we've got a true winner here, can't even come up with something good to say.

Truly he's won guys. Game over. Time to go home.

>>12286420
Dude fuck off homo, I laughed.

>>12286424
HAT DID YOU FUCKING CALL ME? A HoMO? DO YOU FUCKING KN OW WHAT HOMO EVEN MEANS? IT MEANS A HOMOSEXUAL. A FUCKING QUEER. A WHOOPSY. A PRANCING LALA FRUITY BOY. YOU COME HERE, AND CALL ME FUCKING THAT? DO YOU HAVE ANY IDEA HOW MANY GIGABYTES OF PORNOGRAPHY FEATURING ONLY FUCKING !!!FEMALES!! I HAVE? DO YOU HAVE ANY IDEA HOW MANY TIMES A DAY I MASTURBATE TO THIS COLLECTION, HOW MANY HOURS I SPEND EXPANDING IT? NO, NO YOU FUCKING DON'T, YOU JUST COME IN HERE AND MAKE A FUCKING JUDGEMENT ON ME LIKE YOu"RE SOME KIND OF JUDGER OF FAGS WHEN I STILL SMELL OF THE SEMEN FROM JACKING IT TO THE PUSSY OF A FUCKING FEMALE THIS BOARD ISN"T FUCKING /GAY/ ALRIGHT IT'S /JP/, NEWSFLASH, JAPAN HAS SEX TOO, OTHERWISE JAPAN WOULD NOT EXIST AS A FUCKING COUNTRY WITH PEOPLE IN YOU PREJUDICED PIECE OF SHIT

WHIPE THAT SMILE OFF YOUR FUCKING FACE. I BET I HAVE AT LEAST TEN TIMES THE AMOUNT OF PICTURES OF VAGINA YOU DO, FAGGOT FAG FAG FRUITY WHOOPSY DOO-DOO LAA LAA SCOUT BOY GET THE FUCK OFF MY BOARD

>>12286138
>Because there's zero value in them.
Yeah, there's "zero value" to porn. No one jerks off.

Machine TL or not, that's pretty fast if true.

>>12286465

So, being fuwanovel, what do you think will happen when they're done and Kouryuu looks it over and says that it's too shitty to release? (Assuming he doesn't want to burn the goodwill they've built up by making a turn towards higher quality translations)

Rage against the mangagamer machine and release it for free?

>>12286490
I exchanged messages with the guy in charge of the project a while ago wondering if they needed help with editing (I was bored), and it seems they're pretty heavily in bed with mangagamer already from what I was told. I'd be surprised if it was suddenly rejected.

>>12286515
>they're pretty heavily in bed with mangagamer already
Tbh, it looks more like its that guy's delusions, since MG staff comments on it were very evasive and non-committing. After reading his posts on MG forum, I don't think he's sane.

>>12286523
Well, they decided to not take me on as an editor on the basis of talking to MG and them saying they only wanted one editor, so I don't know.

>>12286525
>>12286523
(´･ω･`)

Yes, I get that it could have just been an overly round-a-bout and polite way to turn me down.

>>12286525
As bad as some of Mangagamer's earlier translations could be, I can't imagine they'd actually use a machine translation. Have they posted lines or anything that obviously were MTL'ed?

>>12286530

I hear that at some point they had upwards of 40 editors until someone told them it was a stupid idea.

>>12286536
I almost got access to scripts, but was rejected by aforementioned shit.

>>12286530
>expressed concern over how big the size of the editing team
I bet it was something like this:
MKDude goes to pester Koryuu at IRC, "hey, hey, we got one more editor!111", and then he replies something like "Wtf, man, don't you already have over zillion of ediors already?" and then he interpreted as "expressed concern" and acted upon it.

>>12283546
>no h-scenes
I'm calling bs

>>12286637
Even EOP like you could download game and scroll through its content with ctrl, witnessing with own eyes that there are no sex-scenes.
Moreover, there's just no opportunities for them to begin with. In prologue, there's no Yuuji. Then in first half of story Yuuji is incapacitated, in second he's too busy killing stuff, and in the end he's busy cleaning up stuff while girls wait for him some hundred km away. He stays with girls at same spot for very short amount of time and is too busy dealing with some other crazy girls to fuck his harem.

>>12286530
I'm guessing Kouryuu's main concern is some editor deciding to leak it, especially since Ixrec leaking Alternative happened, he would like a team to be as small as possible to minimize such a risk.

>>12285680
Are you too retarted to look at ixrec twitter?

>Raw translation for Comyu finished recently, but the patch might take a while since my computer's crashing a lot lately and I fell waaay behind in counter edits.

>>12286138
>zero value in porn
>porn and nukige industry blooming

nice try anon

>>12286722
Zero value in UNRELATED, ZERO-STORY PORN OMAKES.
Try selling "nukige" with no backstory, plot and premise whatsoever.

>>12286730
>UNRELATED, ZERO-STORY PORN OMAKES

It's normal, check Majikoi, DracuRiot afterstory and shitloads of others.
You are one of these fuwanovels that hate porn in a porn game, ain't you?

>>12286761
It's normal, but the "essential experience of Rakuen" is not damaged in any way if you don't have the bonus scenes.

Now, 99% of us don't care about that and just want to get to the fucking, but people like to complain that their experience will be gutted if they play an all-ages version.

>>12286761
I'm not "hating" them, and even managed to read through all afterstory scenes (totally wasn't worth it tho, it would be better w/out afterstory at all, hope they rewrite it completely for all-ages release) and 2 dave scenes. As I've said, they just don't have any value for this particular game, and releasing Rakuen w/out them will not make Rakuen worse, because Rakuen is about terrorism, WMDs, global conspiracies and gimmicks of 美浜女子挺身隊, not some 3rd-rate porn.

>>12286761
>porn game
Yep, game with 0 scenes in main scenario is totally "porn game" now, just because there's also separate porn omake scenarios bundled with it.
While we are at it, we should also assign primary genres to anime based on specials.

>>12286783
Silly anon, even holding hands is considered as porn

http://www.siliconera.com/2014/07/21/writing-visual-novel-interview-lucky-dogs-tennenouji/

Looks like the fan translator and official company are working towards a mobile release with Lucky Dog.

>>12286857
>an exception is being made, as Boy’s Love is a genre of games with very little exposure in the West, and one of this site’s goals is to help bring worldwide exposure to games from Asia
Yet they pretend NTY license never happened.

>>12286857

All ages iOS release instead of 18+ PC release planned, I guess a future outrage in the BL community

>>12286865
Over half of mangagamer's localisations in the past year or two have been BL.

>>12286730
That's still not zero value. Stop being a hyperbolic asshole who can't accept that other people might be interested in things you aren't.

>>12284096
Silly thing. Punishment based on emotions, not on reason (i.e. harm done or whatever bullshit excuses). They love villain - no punishment. They hate the saint - death sentence.

>>12286712
Ixrec has a twitter!

>Clover Day - 404/648 KB of the common route + 37/722 KB of a route translated
The only thing on here that matters.

Strato has resumed his translation and he's going to release it officially under Sekai Project! #BaldrSky2015 #BelieveIt

>>12287171
Why the fuck is strato?

>>12287177
Who*

>>12286865
>siliconera
>doing actual research

Good one.

>>12286908

Seinarukana when? I want some gameplay.

>>12287445
Early 2020 if no unexpected delays happen.

>>12287012
>that matters
>of a route
Unless it's Tsubame's route, it doesn't really matter.

Koiken Update
Total TL Percentage: 82.36%
Total TLC Percentage: 79.19%
Total Edit Percentage: 46.91%
Total QC Percentage: 27.70%

>>12287630
Total Translators Who Actually Know Both Japanese and English at at least a 2nd Grade Level: 10%

>>12287684

http://blog.alicesoft.com/archives/4118484.html

On comment #16 is Sekai Project paying for Japanese shills now?

>>12287719
Holy shit it really looks like a shill

>>12286871
>>12286722
>>12286452
What he's trying to say is that Rakuen's porn is an even more obvious example than most of adding H-scenes simply because they're required for the game to sell, not because they add anything to the story they created. While I love porn as much as the next guy, you have to admit that at least in Rakuen the porn does not add anything to the experience of reading the story Grisaia no Rakuen.

The most common argument against all-ages localizations is that it's censorship compromising the original creative vision of the creators. In the case of Rakuen, it is blindingly obvious that the H-scenes were not added because the creators felt they were necessary to tell the story the way they wanted to. As such, you can't say it detracts from the creators' intent in any way. The only issue that remains with removing the porn, then, is that buyers get less value in the product they're buying compared to the original version - rather than getting Rakuen plus bonus porn, you only get Rakuen. It's like complaining that a company isn't also releasing the fandisc when localizing a title. I'd rather get Rakuen without the bonus porn than no Rakuen at all.

>>12285936
>I'm still determined to complete it, but I understand I've been lacking concrete result to show everyone. I used to work all day and night to get this done but I admit once I became the sole person left, I kinda lost my motivation. Also, I've recently start studying again so yeah. =\
>
>And sorry about that juan. You're not far off the mark to say that the current speed is about a line per day.
>
>The only time when I really get myself motivated and accelerated nowadays is when I see you comments. They make me realize that there are still people anticipating my work even though it is crappy and despite the era you have to wait for the lazy person that is me. So for the better of both of us please show no mercy and bash me more on why I don't work faster. =D

Source for >>12287735 is http://www.anime-sharing.com/forum/active-projects-87/fortune-arterial-55415/index31.html.. (It didn't fit in the post.)

>>12286403
>>12286420
Rather, he's calling you a retard due to how factually incorrect your post was, and because it's really easy to fact-check it. The company behind Moenovel is Pulltop, the creators of Konosora. Grisaia will be Front Wing's first venture into the Western VN market.

>>12287735
If you take out the extra porn though the game becomes embarrassingly short compared to it's other releases. It might have trouble feeling like a full package game with the content that's there.

>>12287735
Aw, that's a shame. About Fortune Arterial, I mean. I hope he finds the time to finish it. I'll go leave a comment on his blog/site/thread.

At least Shiro's route is finished and released already. She's probably the cutest character I've come accross so far..

>>12283546
>There were no h-scenes in Rakuen

What the fuck are you even talking about.

http://frontwing.jp/product/grisaia3/gallery/_gallery.html

>>12287719
>All ages Rance or Daikuji
The horror.

>>12288501
How about you try to read conversation before posting? I've eplained it 4 times in this very thread alone.

>>12288918
Actually some people at ANN (there was thread about Rance adaptation) belive that porn is holding Rance back and it would be great games otherwise.

>>12288965
ANN people can suck dicks for their opinions.

>>12288965
But that's not Rance at all.

>>12288957
back-paddling isn't "explaining".

>>12288965
they are retards who at best have only played Sengoku (which they probably gave up after Kou get raped)

>>12287735
>The only issue that remains with removing the porn, then, is that buyers get less value in the product they're buying compared to the original version - rather than getting Rakuen plus bonus porn, you only get Rakuen.
And how is this not a completely valid issue to complain about? I haven't seen anyone in this thread argue that removing ero from Rakuen compromises its artistic vision or whatever bullshit, some people just like fapping to characters from a story getting fucked. How is this hard to understand?

>I'd rather get Rakuen without the bonus porn than no Rakuen at all.
You probably would've gotten Rakuen with the bonus porn if it weren't for the Sekai Project bullshit.

>>12289859
I dislike any kind of censorship and removing H scenes is one clear example of that.

>>12289859
Ideally, if Steam allows it, we will get both all ages and 18+ releases of Grisaia and get a perfect release with H-scenes and new Vita content of the titles (if that is what Dovac is pushing for with what he has mentioned steam is tentatively fine with.)

At this point however it is clear that Sekai Project or no Sekai Project, the Japanese companies are going to see Steam as a revenue stream they want to exploit. Between the success of Go Go Nippon, what Higurashi will sell, and what OELVNs are doing on there now, everything is point at Steam as the way for the struggling Japanese industry to make money overseas.

It is much better for the Western community to have MangaGamer/Sekai Project, with people involved in the community already and composed of employees who are willing to listen to what the existing VN community wants, to take the exploratory steps into Steam VNs and set the boundaries to what needs to be censored to be as limited that they can be (or preferably none if Steam allows both 18+ and all ages releases to be done). Consider the alternative of what would happen if Moenovel or someone with their attitude was setting the standards for what VN localizations on Steam would be, that would be an outright disaster if other companies decided to emulate them and releases like Moenovel's Konasora became the norm.

>>12290069
Steam is going to be terrible for VN localizations regardless.

Hope you all are doing your reps.

>>12290090
>Steam is going to be terrible for VN localizations regardless.
It really, truly is. I blame the Americans for this. It'll also create a fanbase of eroge consumers who will expect their eroge to have no ero.

>>12290115
I just hope whatever happens on Steam, it won't affect Japanese release https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gtjT5rm-u94 s

>>12290115
I just hope whatever happens on Steam, it won't affect Japanese releases.

http://mogumogubakubaku.wordpress.com/2014/07/14/27/

>>12290121
That's very unlikely. Even if there's a large possibility of revenue, the Japs really aren't likely to notice the English market in a big way. It's just how they approach business. The only real exception are international companies that started in Japan, like Sony or Fujitsu or whatever, and no VN company is going to get that big ever. Besides, there already is a lot of pressure to release all ages versions of VNs due to the console market over there and even then nips are more likely to release two versions, 18+ and all ages.

>>12290140
Yeah, and how long before he loses traction again? He only got 30% done.

>>12290140
Pffff.

Comyu patch is out.

>>12290327
no, it's not.

>>12290595
The link's on Ixrec's twitter.

>>12290637
0/10

>>12290669
I don't know what makes you lie like this. Anyone can go check it.

>>12290722
You could at least put in the effort to get the spacing right.

>>12290726
Twitter makes the spacing.

>>12290722
>>12290729

It's just too obvious. Everyone with half a brain would ask way you're going out of your way to post a screenshot instead of just linking to his Twitter post.

Thanks for the effort, though.

>>12290142
Steam probably wouldn't affect practices in how titles are released, but if meaningful revenue was coming out of steam, some titles would get approved that otherwise wouldn't if Japanese companies believes those titles could appeal to an international audience (besides just the domestic market).

#itshappening
https://twitter.com/Ixrec/status/442022366156423168

>>12290879
Simply epic.

>>12290879
-1/10

Random translator here.
Baldr Sky Dive1 is at 57% at the moment.
Complete patch will be probably out before december.

>>12290146
We actually have 0% percent done because Futsuu thinks his previous translation is crap and doesn't want to use it. Looking at it, I have to agree. That being said, at least having a previous translation to work with is better than having nothing at all, so it's not a complete waste per say.

We're currently waiting on a hacker to give us a new stuff to work with as he's tied with other obligations at the moment.

In the mean time, I'm rereading Rain's route in preparation for the starting the translation.

>>12291473
Forgot to add, it's a spanish translation project that i'm doing with my friends since my english isn't great.
With luck maybe someone will retranslate it for you guys.

>>12291496
>retranslate

Thank you, but no thanks.

>>12291484
I wonder, could you guys do something about the recollection part of dive2? Like making it auto start with september or something which is close to the new parts.

>>12291563
That looks unnecessary. As much as I didn't like rereading Reminiscence, that's the way it was supposed to be. A translator's job isn't to upgrade the game, just deliver it in a way people who don't know japanese understand in a consistent way, that is respectful to the prose (which I hope this guy at least shows his stuff to Futsuu or someone like that because the least I want is someone who can't handle Hiei's writing trying to tackle Baldr Sky).

>>12291563
As the other Anon stated, that would be beyond the scope of our responsibilities as fan translators. If I was hired to fully localize the game, I would consider it as having to reread the flashbacks was pretty much the worst part in an otherwise great game.

It's not THAT big of a deal, though. It's what the skip function is for.

>>12281003
>>Armored Warrior Iris - Released
Is the fact that this is not uploaded yet, a sign of "respect", or a sign of no one buying it and the title bombing?

>>12291694
There's no respect for game makers (or anyone really) in this community, so almost certainly the latter.

>>12291685
You can't skip the text by default in reminiscence and you may lose important segments that were added in reminiscence.

>>12291694
>>12291704
Too bad so sad ;_;

>>12291694
It's probably doing about as good or as bad as all Mangagamer nukige

>>12291484
>per say
I have high hopes for this translation.

>>12291694
Same thing with Harajuku

which is a pity because I'd play it if it were free

>>12291857
To be honest, I'd like to see this as a sign of respect but since Eroge Download admin usually uploads VNs as soon as he gets his hands on them (on official releases he usually uploads them on they one after release), he's probably busy or something.
Anyway, recently on their Ask.fm MangaGamer said that they currently profit on basically every title. They profit specially on nukiges what is to be expected.

>>12292080
>...on day one after release...
That's what I meant to say.

>>12292080
> Eroge Download admin usually uploads VNs as soon as he gets his hands on them (on official releases he usually uploads them on they one after release),
He's too greedy to buy stuff himself and too dumb to crack it himself, so it all depends on whether someone uploads his copy and then someone hacks it.

>>12291993
Hahaha you fucked wrecked that queer, straight up gg.

>>12292105
Futsuu please.

>>12292105
Are you angry?

>>12292157
I was entirely serious, I laughed really hard at his post.

>>12292080
>>12292030
>>12291857
>>12291847
>>12291704
>>12291694
>Is the fact that this is not uploaded yet, a sign of "respect", or a sign of no one buying it and the title bombing?
Neither. The issue here is that the nukige-buying audience and the non-nukige VN buying audience are two entirely different groups. Nukige buyers aren't nearly as enthusiastic or technically proficient as 'real VN fans', meaning that
1. They are easy to sell to; they'll easily shell out a few bucks for a quick fap and don't want to have to do difficult piracy stuff; and
2. Nukige buyers rarely upload the games they've bought. They generally neither care to upload it nor know how to do so.

It often takes weeks or months for localized nukige to be uploaded.

>>12292494
....but I read both ;_;

>>12292494
>The issue here is that the nukige-buying audience and the non-nukige VN buying audience are two entirely different groups.
Are they? There is certainly a lot of overlap between people who enjoy the two, but of course enjoying and buying aren't always the same.

>>12292494
>>12292600
For example, I bought from MangaGamer titles like Eroge and ImoPara. Heck, I even actually bought Ruby Striker because it was pretty cheap and the message the company sent to the fans overseas was quite positive.
But I also bought other titles like both ef games, KnS and Otoboku.

I think this all comes down to whether or not the person is willing to spend a certain ammount of money to enjoy the VN. Unfortunately, many still think that paying for that enjoyment isn't worth it. I know that this brings here some other elements like the subjective opinion / tastes or monetary situation of each one of us but what I intend to say is that many people that simply enjoy the VN as it is, don't actually have any intention of paying for it.

Guys, someone has the latest subahibi patch?

>>12292798
Archive.

>>12285632
Rejoice, the games are in the hands of a competent translator now so you don't have to wait for them to be mangled by Ignowreck.

>>12292674
For me, it's less buying the enjoyment of that particular piece of media and more hoping that by buying it, I help the company make more pieces of media that are also entertaining. It's why I pirate first then throw money at the company afterwards.

This only really applies to niche stuff; I can pirate mainstream stuff without guilt since they are getting a ton of money no matter what I do.

>>12292674
>>12292879
For me, it doesn't matter how much I enjoy something, I will never ever support an English localisation company or even support fan translators and such because I really, truly, to the absolute core of my being, fucking hate english only peasants. EOPs have such a degree of arrogance to think they can experience the brilliant niche of eroge without putting in the proper effort and learning Japanese and instead they're happy to consume some shitty translation then shitpost everywhere because they experienced some inferior version.

>>12292805
Pls give a link.

>>12292798
I'm going to take down the link just because I'm tired of people asking.

>>12292886
If you hate EOPs you could at least show a more reasonable reason like their insufferable circlejerking over the same titles ad infinitum. Just look at the umineko threads on /jp/. The people who frequent those probably haven't played more than 10 VNs. That's not even touching the majifaggots who still cry over their untranslated route.

>>12292886
Dat irony.

>>12293185
Two routes, actually. Though I'm pretty sure half of the ones complaining aren't even aware the Agave route exists.

>>12293413

Almost everyone is oblivious to the Agave route. Pretty sure those Majikoi fags don't care at all though. They just want their shitty Miyako route.

MG posted sketches for Satoko's new sprite on their tumblr account.

>>12293850
Why not just use the PS3 sprites? /jp/ or someone successfully imported them into the butchered MG release so it can't be that hard.

Comyu 100% is out
https://twitter.com/Ixrec/status/492436129254502401

Comyu patch is out.

>>12291473
>>12291496

Any link to a website?

>>12293471
You can't even play the Agave route without completing Miyako(and all other major routes) though. So it's kinda of a moot point. Before Agave can even be translated, Miyako has to be.

>>12294048
>>12294050
I'm not gonna fall for that, I just checked it an hour ag-
>It's true.

Welll. yay.

>>12294048
Great, now can someone link comyu working torrent?

>>12294048

>>12292600

*overfap.

>>12294031

Apparently new art is literally cheaper than licensing the ps2 art

>>12294320
Depending on the companies in question, this might actually be the case. That or Alchemist(was it Alchemist?) just won't even talk to Mangagamer due to sales and other factors.

>>12294320
I thought they were just redrawing the DS art for big resolution screens.

>>12294463
Well you're wrong.

>>12294320
>>12294429
Alchemist is probably used to see lots of numbers so it's not surprising if they asked for an unreasonable amount of money just to license the art.

Also, still regarding the art, I'm under the impression that MangaGamer already stated somewhere that they won't redraw the backgrounds. Just the characters.

>>12295438
>Also, still regarding the art, I'm under the impression that MangaGamer already stated somewhere that they won't redraw the backgrounds. Just the characters.
That makes sense. The cost and amount of effort that goes into drawing backgrounds is much higher than it is for drawing sprites and often requires several artists at a time, unlike sprites which can just be done by one artist. That's why R07 also doesn't do his backgrounds.

>>12295442
Did anyone ever finish that godforsaken Higurashi voice patch? I know someone finished it for the first game, but 2-8 are still unvoiced.

>>12295556
Nope

>>12295568
Well they should finish it. In all honesty,
MangaGamer's new sprites + PS2 Backgrounds/Voices = A Great Patch!

>>12295572
Why don't you do it? And while you're at it, translate the alternate ending.

>>12295572
>PS2 Backgrounds
God why?

I used PS2 sprites but the drawn backgrounds look much worse and destroy the atmosphere.

>>12295585
>but the drawn backgrounds look much worse and destroy the atmosphere.
Not true. I read Higurashi just fine with them. Hated the photographic backgrounds. Hated them in Umineko too (thank god for Alchemist). Normally I don't have a problem with them but R07 goes out of his way to make them look as ugly and indistinguishable as possible.

So should I announce it here if we have started translating a visual novel?

>>12295611
Sure.

>>12295616
Well ok, we have started translating this http://vndb.org/v10325#main , look forward to it I guess

>>12295619
The artstyle looks good. To bad it's a nukige and I won't read it. Good look though.

>>12295583
There's an alternate ending?

>>12295619
Cool. You should probably start a blog or something.

>>12295629
Yeah. In Matsuri

>>12295619
>Consensual Sex Involving Slime Monsters 2.0
Hell yes.

>>12295583
>>12295635
Why don't they just release Higurashi Hou
http://vndb.org/v15523 with the PS2 sprites/Voices/Backgrounds/BGM that also includes all the extra arcs and that brand new written one that's supposed to be released next month? EVERY. SINGLE. HIGURASHI ARC EVER CREATED FOR EVERY PLATFORM FEATURING THE NEW SPRITES AND VOICES FOR THE ARCS THAT ARE THERE INCLUDING TAKING SOME THINGS FROM THE DS. What do you say?

>>12295619
>Bondage
>Anal Toys
>Sex in Public Places
>Missionary Position
>Anilingus
>Deepthroat
>Urination Fetish
>Lolicon
>Anal Sex
>Consensual Sex Involving Slime Monsters
Looks good anon. You have my support.

>>12295642
Because Higurashi only has 8 arcs and no one cares about R07's continued attempts to expand the series because they suck and he's just retroactively tainting the only series he made that is worth reading?

>>12295556
I mean, why couldn't they at least finish the fucking voice patch? Umineko was able to do it!

>>12295556
>>12295648
Higurashi is better without voices.

>>12295650
That's just subject to opinion.

>>12295659
No, it's an objective fact. For example, Mai Nakahara's screaming completely shatters Higurashi's humble and delicate atmosphere.

For those of you who are wondering, the Hunks Workshop (The bara visual novel.) translation seem to be active again! The rough translation is now at 100%

http://vndb.org/v4679

http://tlwiki.org/index.php?title=Hunks_Workshop%21

>>12295650
Did you play the DEMO with voices? Holy shit, Rena fucking terrified me. It does provide a better atmosphere if you ask me.

>>12295650
>>12295659
I found the voices on Umineko pretty good. I specially found Beatrice VA fantastic.

If the Higurashi voices are as good as those on Umineko, I wouldn't mind reading it with them. In fact, I most probably would enjoy it.

>>12295662
Oh wow, the gays will be rejoicing tonight!

>>12282944
Let's just hope this project doesn't get abandoned again. I've been waiting for this translation since about 2008/'09-ish. The closest thing we got to an English translation to this title was that patch on Hongfire someone made that translated all the menus in English. From what I remember, there used to be a pretty dedicated following for this VN to be translated about five or so years ago...

>>12295671
I mean, part of the OP is famous for Christ's sake, plus the anime had a pretty interesting plot. I'm honestly surprised it hasn't been completely translated yet. From what I understand, it's a pretty high quality VN in general.

>>12295671
All I remember about a Popotan translation was someone posting on the mirrormoon forums, but that was fucking aaages ago. Is it the same peeps?

>>12295674
Nope, looks like it's someone new by the looks of that blog. There's been plenty of attempts on translating Popotan as I recall.

>>12295664
Why not try for yourself? It's the first arc using the PS2 Sprites, Backgrounds, BGM & VOICES. But it only covers the first arc.

http://forums.fuwanovel.org/index.php?/topic/3437-higurashi-when-they-cry-onikakushi-hen-ps2-graphics-voice-hack/

>Kara no Shoujo 2 - 13.8% translated, 12.8% edited
Delicious

>>12295664
Oh wow, I wish I read Umineko with the improved graphics and voices. I remember back in '09 I read them as they were coming out. People have it so easy these days. They can just download and read it whenever they like with these beautiful graphics. Back then, waiting for a translation with Ryu's artwork was such a painful bitch, because that's all we knew! You'd go onto Witch-Hunt's website everyday hoping for progress only to be disappointed every time, and "Meanwhile at Witch-Hunt" was relevant. Eh, I'll most likely re-read it again sometime soon using those graphics and voices. Although I don't really like to admit it, Umineko really did expand my imagination to a whole new level.On a somewhat related note, how's Rose Gun Days?

>>12295664
The Umineko voices are good.

But Higurashi has a different voice cast (only three main VAs carry over) and has a completely different atmosphere to Umineko.

For the same reason CGs are good in Umineko but terrible in Higurashi.

>>12295703
I read Umineko when it was coming out and re-read it when the patch was out.

Rose Gun Days is better than Umineko but worse than Higurashi, but it's nothing like either. It's good, has pacing issues but definitely has its moments, but there's really not much to say or talk about.

Also the feminism is turned up to 11 in RGD.

>>12295687
Thanks for the link but I'll only re-read higurashi when the re-translation of all of its chapters is released.

>>12295704
I'm the same guy as >>12295664 and already read Higurashi a few years ago.

I suppose I'll go to youtube search for some gameplay of Higurashi PS2 version.

>>12295703
I started to read Umineko a few days after the full english patch release and enjoyed it immensely. It's almost certain that you won't be disappointed re-reading it again with the PS3 content. Another aspect I really liked of Umineko PS3 patches was the text box. It added to my immersion.

>>12295687
Thanks for that.

I read Higurashi last summer, and I thought I had the music patch. But apparently not. There's a lot of music in this demo that I don't recognize. Oh well, I didn't even like Higurashi that much so I'm not planning on ever replaying it.

>>12295728
>I didn't even like Higurashi
I bet you liked F/SN or Grisaia or something though. Fuck I hate you.

>>12295733
You're right, I like both of those games better than Higurashi.

But that's not what I said. I said I didn't like it that much. I still gave it a 7, which is 'good'. I enjoyed reading it, but just not as much as other things.

>>12295748
>I like both of those games better than Higurashi.
You should probably kill yourself.

>>12295759
I hate Grisaia but I like Fate Stay Night and Higurashi and equate them on the same level, but umineko>all. Should I kill myself as well?

>>12295763
The not liking Grisaia is good but thinking Fate/Stay Night and Higurashi are the same and thinking Umineko wasn't completely and utterly ruined by chiru means you should kill yourself as well.

>>12295766
Umineko wasn't ruined by chiru, sure it was inferior in terms of quality, but it wasn't ruined by it by any stretch, that's like arguing higurashi was ruined by Kai.

>>12295759
>>12295766
You're ridiculous.

>>12295763
I like Umineko better than Higurashi as well.

>>12295772
>Umineko wasn't ruined by chiru
Sure it was. Seeing as the original arcs were all about building up to Chiru and Chiru dropped the ball REAL fucking hard and retroactively ruined the earlier chapters (which were overrated to begin with). Chiru apologists are all post-2011 anyway.
>>12295776
>I like Umineko better than Higurashi as well.
I thought I told you to kill yourself.

>>12295779
Great arguments there mate, speaking all buzzwords and just going ad hominem doesn't really help your case.

>>12295779
Are you this much fun in real life as well?

>>12295785
I'm not arguing, I'm just telling you to kill yourself.
>>12295789
Kill yourself.

>>12295808
And you are seriously expecting someone to kill themselves just because you tell them to over the internet, or do you realize the stupidity and futility of your actions and choose to pursue them regardless?

>>12295818
If one person with kuso taste kills themselves then this world will be better off. I do what I do for the good of humanity.

>>12295820
Taste is subjective, just because that you think my taste is shit doesn't mean it is actually shit, besides from my point, you have shit taste for thinking that Fate Stay Night is inferior to higurashi or that chiru is shit, so you should kill yourself and do the world a favor.

>>12295818
Just report them. I know they're pathetic and deserve to know that. But they'll never realize it no matter what. Who can be this pathetic on an anonymous internet board over a game? Only a person with very little in their life. Feel sorry for them instead. It's sad.

>>12295830
Do you realise where you are?

>>12295825
>Taste is subjective
This is what people with shit taste actually believe.

>>12295845
Oh boy you really proved my statement wrong! Except not, surely you should realize that throwing around stupid 4chan phrases doesn't prove me wrong right? Or are you that stupid?

>>12295847

Go back to tumblr or reddit or wherever you came from.

>>12295849
There's been a lot of them lately. It's over.

>>12295849
Great response once again, I never even browsed those websites, and even if I did it wouldn't make your stupidity right.

>>12295854

Well, you're obviously not from /jp/ so gtfo

>>12295854
The fact you're getting so mad because someone told you to (rightfully) kill yourself for liking chiru just proves you're a tourist.

>>12295857
That club mentality, I'm from 4chan not /jp/ specifically, but it's not like it means a lot especially when most of the boards including /jp/ are pretty cancerous and filled with people like you.

>>12295858
Just because I'm replying to someone doesn't mean I'm mad, I was actually being entertained by seeing what stupidity he would come up with next.

> liking chiru just proves you're a tourist.
Once again nothing but club mentality, are you seriously that presumptous to believe that everyone here on /jp/ hates chiru? No it is not true, you are just in denial and your denial is reinforced by the masses who are also similarly in denial as you.
The people who just like chiru don't bother to speak up because they know that they will get shit on like I do,

>>12295763
>umineko>all.
>Should I kill myself as well?
Yep.

>>12295864

If /jp/ is so cancerous why are you wasting time posting here instead of killing yourself?

>>12295864
>I'm from 4chan not /jp/ specifically,
Subhum/a/n or a /v/iral? Get out.

>>12295870
Because the whole of 4chan is cancer, but it is still far less cancerous than every other website out there, as for why I'am on /jp/, is because to look at the visual novel translations obviously and sometimes browse some of the touhou threads.

Also why should I kill myself once again?
There are millions if not billions of people who like way worse things than chiru out there, so what's the point of telling me this?
Killing me would serve no purpose, you would only get a few less visual novel translations actually if I were to kill myself and few of the doujin projects run under me would also stop.
I wouldn't care about killing myself for humanity as I do not care for humanity, so that renders that argument for killing myself also null.

Wasting time is also just a stupid phrase, as your life has no meaning, so there is nothing to waste if it your life has no meaning to begin with.
You can only waste time from society's viewpoint who only view work and self improvement, and breeding as a worthwhile effort, while everything else is practically a waste of time from that standpoint.

>>12295873
I do not associate myself with any of the boards, I'm not into club mentality or muh secret club like you people are, you may refer to me as a crossboarder if you want to.

>>12295876

Wow you sure told us! Boy, I would have never known life was meaningless if you hadn't told me! Kill yourself, faggot

>>12295876
Kill yourself.
>>12295884
You kill yourself too for abusing spoiler tags. It's not a fucking surprise box.

>>12295884
Once again, thanks for showing us the average quality post on /jp/.
It is hillarious that people are talking like this board is any better than /a/ or /v/, when you encounter the same kind of cunts with this 12 year old attitude on all 3 boards, you just never realize this because you don't actively browse those boards unlike a crossboarder like me.

>>12295888
Make me

>>12295876
>I wouldn't care about killing myself for humanity as I do not care for humanity
>Wasting time is also just a stupid phrase, as your life has no meaning
Christ, who invited the edgelord?

>>12295892
Not caring about humanity or being a nihilist automatically makes someone edgy. Sure is typical /v/ here despite you guys wanting to sound different.

>>12295890

Did you literally just get to 4chan yesterday? How new are you?

>>12295894
No, seriously, are you 15?

When I first posted on /jp/ back in 2008 and told someone to kill themselves, I was immediately rebuked for my /b/-like attitude, and told I should try to fit in more.

Now that we're in 2014, people are shitposting in the VNTS thread of all places, telling people who do not agree with the /jp/ hivemind taste to kill themselves. Yet people still claim /jp/ is superior to every other place. It's still one of the best places on 4chan, but that's only due to other boards becoming EVEN WORSE. /jp/ has had enough of an influx of new users to lose any right to claim it's a decent board anymore.

I'd normally refrain from posting something like this in the VNTS thread, but it's at 298 posts at the moment of writing - the damage has already been done, might as well join the derailed discussion.

>>12295897
Nope, I been aware of 4chan since 2007 and actively browsing 2011, doesn't mean that I agree with the general shitty and cancerous behavior of the site and will tolerate them.

>>12295899
I will be 21 this november actually

>>12295906
>and actively browsing 2011
Wow, such an oldfag.

>>12295910
Being an oldfag or not does not make you any better of an user, oldfags can be just as cancerous as newfags, and I'm still a lot older user than many of the people using this site.

>>12295913
Agreed, I don't think all that many people really care about how long someone else has been here.

>>12295913
No, you aren't. 2011 is not old retard. I was mocking you.

>>12295918
I did indeed realize that you were mocking me, except it seems that even this fact has escaped your primitive mindset.
I did not say that I was an oldfag in my previous post, I said that I was still a lot older user than many people using this site a.k.a. people who have been browsing for 2 years or less.
Please learn reading comprehension.

>>12295913
The issue with 'newfags' - something that ironically seems lost on those very newbies as they unironically use 'oldfag' and 'newfag' while shitposting - is that they are unaware of the board culture and therefore post things that clash with the existing board culture. You know, things like derailing a VNTS thread to call out someone's supposedly bad taste in VNs.

>>12295921

m'lady

>>12295921
>I did indeed
>your primitive mindset.
Are you talking like a retard intentionally or are you being ironic?

For anon who reading Ixwreck translation.

>>12295925
This not started with me though, but some random guy calling out a person for not liking Higurashi, then mocking Grisaia and Fate as well it's fanbase.

>>12295926
Hello /v/, thank you again for your nice contribution to this topic.

>>12295934
Though nobody seems to listen to it anymore these days, 'don't feed the troll' is still a solid piece of advice passed down since the earliest days of 4chan. Though hilarious in hindsight considering /jp/ of all places responds to anything nowadays, the informal /jp/ guidelines even had a rule on not feeding trolls.

>Rule 2: Don't respond to trolls - If some guy posted something really stupid and provocative that made you angry and you want to kill him, don't respond to him. Don't even bother to tell him off while using sage; it's most likely a troll that just wants some replies. In /jp/, troll threads tend to be really easy to spot, so there's really no excuse for this. If too many people get baited, it will end up in a stupid 200 post long drama thread nobody wants to see in the first page.

>>12295946
I honestly wasn't expecting him to be a troll at the time, was just trying to make a conversation, naturally I did not expect that it would turn into such shitposting and from that initial post the argument carried itself on it's own.

>>12295956
No, are you seriously posting like that unironically or not? Or do we have a legitimate fedora tipper?

>>12295960
I don't really know what do you mean unironically or not, this is how I always post.

>>12295967
Well you're embarrassing yourself. You're not writing a resume and it doesn't make you look mature or polite or smart or whatever it is you're going for.

>>12295975
I honestly don't care what it makes look like, this is how I always post, this is how I like to post, I see no reason to change my writing habits just because of you or anyone on this board does not like it.

>>12295976
You're just a lone ranger against the world, aren't you? Grow up, kid.

>>12295980
Not really doing this because of rebellion or anything like that, as I said previously I post like this because it is how I always posted and how I liked to post.
If my posting style was something the same as the rest of the 4chan then I would still post the same, since I post like this because I want to, not because of people's opinions or influences.

Besides writing style has once again nothing to do with maturity.
I could honestly tell you the same for writing in short sentences and just trying to be funny witty all the time with your shitty one liners or buzzwords, but unlike you, I realize the fact that wouldn't make me any more right and would just make me as bad as you.

>>12295990
>I could honestly tell you the same for writing in short sentences and just trying to be funny witty all the time with your shitty one liners or buzzwords, but unlike you, I realize the fact that wouldn't make me any more right and would just make me as bad as you.
You can't keep the moral highground when you do exactly what you say you won't, you realise?

It's okay, I was like you too once. I thought I was better than everyone else, I tried to type pompous because I thought it made me cool and made people respect me. I was a nihilist, though I called myself a "realist" and thought this was rational. The difference is I was 14. You'll grow out of it as well.

>>12295999
Not really, unlike you I did not tell you directly, and was instead just speaking in a theoretical scenario, naturally it was still made with the intent of mocking you of course.

I do not think I'am better than everyone else, but I'm sure as hell better in my own subjective viewpoint compared to the people who can hardly make a few coherent sentences. I type like this because I'am a writer and frequently write entire essays about various subjects or just write my own books. Not really doing it because I care about other people and what they think of me, think of it just as a habit, and it's not like I dislike this writing style as I have previously stated.

You do realize Nihilism is simply a philosophical viewpoint right? Those things have nothing to do with age, sure certain demographics and age groups might lean more towards certain beliefs, but that does not mean that only X people in that age or demographic can follow this viewpoint. Not to mention most famous nihilist were actually older people.

Besides I'am a nihilist simply because I think that there is no purpose to my life or humanity's existence as a whole, not because I want to be edgy or anything.

And yes I may indeed grow out of it as you say, since people's viewpoints can change over time as well as their personalities, I wasn't a nihilist always, I grew into this actually, and I may once again grow into something else as well, I cannot know such a thing for certain.

>>12296016
>I type like this because I'am a writer and frequently write entire essays about various subjects or just write my own books.
Ahahaha oh boy. I'm sorry, I fell for your troll hook, line and sinker, but this just gave it away. It's too stereotypical.

>>12296020
Not really, I'm not a troll, if you really want to I could link you some of my writings.

>>12296016
>>12295990
>>12295976
>>12295967
Oh, come on. Less than 10 minutes after my post you're feeding an obvious troll again, repeatedly. You have to be doing this on purpose.

>>12296025
I cannot stop once I start something, not to mention I'am like a reverse troll, I actually enjoy the attention I get from trolls, even if I do not go to involuntarily get them, but once I actually get them I can't help but feed them.

>>12296028
It's people like you who turned /jp/ into a shithole and turned 4chan's traditional trolling into shitposting. There is no redeeming factor left in trolling when people purposely respond to trolls regardless of how bad they are.

>>12296036
I do not even post on 4chan regurarly, so you cannot blame me or people like me to be honest, I simply made a single post that happened to gain the attention of the trolls, and once that happens I can't help but respond. Otherwise i do not go actually seeking attention or shitpost and most of the time I'am actually a beneficial poster, as I work on translations, doujin projects as well helping people and being informative.

>>12295619
>http://vndb.org/v10325
You are literally my hero.
This has been on my plan to read list for ages.

>>12295638
DO WANT

>https://twitter.com/atlususa

>>12296507
Might be cool. I imagine the gameplay has more meat to it than the PC edition first game. Would like to see Utawarerumono 2 as well though I'm not getting my hopes up.

>>12296507
Atlus U.S.A... I hope isn't another "dub only"

>>12296786
Of course it will be. The best you can hope for is maybe NISA will include the original voices in the European version and you can import that. Otherwise, most popular games get undubs if you have a modded PS3.

>>12296786
>>12296811
http://www.siliconera.com/2014/07/25/atlus-nis-america-bringing-tears-tiara-ii-north-america-europe/

>Atlus will localize the game’s text into English, but the original Japanese audio will be left as-is.

Dovac has now officially quit his day job to work solely on Sekai Project.

Does anyone know if Insani plans on continuing their F/SN translation?

>>12298522
Didn't Insani fade out like five years ago?

>>12298522
>Demo translation only. Last update on 06.01.05.
http://insani.org/fate.html
I think it's rather unlikely.
Not even mirrormoon have been active lately.

http://www.nyaa.se/?page=view&tid=427133 has some useful links in the comments.