/jp/ - Otaku Culture

At least you've found a good reason for the DS to bother with two-screens.

OH GOD HOW

LINK NOW

FUCKKK I NEED THIS

Now get Ray Romano on the PSP.

HOLY SHIT

This is pretty awesome

All thats done so far is the hospital+Aoko scene.

since I didn`t feel like porting onscripter, I wrote my own vn engine in a few days.

Now I jsut have to redo all the onscripter scripting to my own engine.

CONTINUE SIR

How do you write shit for the ds? What languages, libraries?

Please tell me how you do this. I keep looking at my DS thinking why I wasted money on it.

>>120568
devkitpro.org, I'm just using C++.
I`ll release the source with the game once I`m done.

>>120562
Maybe I'm naive, but wouldn't it be easier to port onscripter to the DS rather than rewriting the engine from scratch?

>>120569
Wow. You must be a terrific failure, huh?

GOD!!

>>120573
I wrote my own engine, since onscripter was really annoying.

plus it took me a total of 3 days to make it, where I spent that much trying to figure out how onscripter worked

>>120578
Mirror-Moon needs to send their next project to you.

>>120578
Amazing. Is there any way to keep up or help you with the process other than 4chan?

>>120583
They need to send him the work on UBW.

I'm sorry but you'll have to walk me through to do this. I'd love to be able to play tsukihime on my DS.

im starting to wish I didnt have a psp

>>120578
True blend of /g/ and /a/ forming a new hybrid species of anon... /j/.

>>120578
Ah. Do you plan on porting only tsukihime to the DS or do you plan on writing an onscripter emulator/parser for the system to work with any game?

PROTIP: THE GUY WHO IS DOING THIS IS A POOR FAGGOT WHO LIVES OFF GOVERNMENT MONEY.

>>120587
what?

>>120569
>>120590
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nintendo_DS_homebrew
Just buy an R4(don`t pay more than $40 for this, it takes a bit of searching though) and a microsd card.

You'll be a legend once you finish this Anon. I salute you 100%.

>>120601
How do you salute someone less than one hundred percent? Do you bend your arm like you're going to salute, but suddenly stop partway before your hand reaches your head?

>>120598

Leasts he's being useful.

>>120594
its a generic scripting engine, so any game could work if I redo the entire thing manually.

I`ll work on a script to automate this after I get some sleep

>>120583
Hell, it even works on a DS, it taking MM months just to get FSN running on vista.

....
I can already feel my rage towards message building up again.

Oh man. This is going to be awesome. Do we know if there are any differences in text compared to the PC version, or is the DS version just 'same game, different system, TWO SCREENS'?

>>120610
Read the thread before you post

>>120598
And he's putting government money into good use.

>>120610
I`m taking the text right out of the tsukihime dat file.

Please get bored more often, OP!

The dual screen of the DS seems to make it perfect for visual novels (not to mention the touchscreen). I'm actually surprised that this wasn't done sooner. But is it really easier to make your own engine from scratch than to port onscripter over? You must have already had quite a good working knowledge of how onscripter reads scripts, or you must've spent quite a lot of effort/time to learn it.

Regardless, I hope you keep going. If you do, do you think your engine will be a generic onscripter copy, or Tsukihime-specific? Kagetsu Tohya and Narcissu would be neat if the former is the case.

DO MOTHERFUCKING PLANETARIAN FIRST OP

Since it's short and awesome. Just a suggestion though.

HOW
THE FUCK
DO YOU DO
THIS!?

>>120621
see

>>120562
>>120573
>>120578
>>120594
>>120606

>>120621
my engine(now vnds, since I`m horribly uncreative with names) reads its own format, and wont work with onscripter or any other file type.

I am going to make a converter, doing the aoko scene by hand took me like an hour.

>>120625
link

>>120632
read the thread

If it's onscripter based, you could play Higurashi as well, right?
Nice.

If you do finish up your own engine, would you be kind enough to open-source it, for others to port shit to the DS?

I know a certain project that could possibly benefit from such a thing.

>>120639
being a leenacks user, I do tend to make stuff open source.

though, not like scripting is horribly complex to the point of needing to see the source

text There's nobody here.
text Drowning in this ocean of green at the end of summer,
text I feel like I'm about to disappear.
text ~
text But before that.
text ~
text "Hey you.
text It's dangerous to sit down in a place like that."

bgload CMO_01.png

>>120637
http://www.tokyotosho.com/details.php?id=25798

I would suggest you try Planetarian first since it's only about 3 hours long of gameplay and you can think of it as a "test project" since this is your first time trying it. Then you can move to other larger visual novels that you like. How's that sound?

>>120650
sounds good to me.

This guy should have his own team

I don't know how to program or anything.. ;_; so I guess I'll have to pass on this one or wait for OP to release something that I can use.

>>120650
For the record, Planetarian doesn't use ONScripter.

>>120650
>>120657
Planetarian uses a different scripting engine, though. Might be a bit more complicated than Tsukihime.

>>120660
links to tools to extract data then?

LONG LIVE /jp/

What about games with voice?

>>120676
A) ds can play .ogg files just fine
B) I ignore any suggestions to port them

>>120662

Yeah, different enging

But can you try to crack Realive too? It'd be much appreciated

>>120647

I don't see the BGM code there.

Anyone that knows code/nscripter feel like fixing my hasty repack for PSP tsukihime.

I cant get it to load properly after finishing one of the initial routes, it just sit as the main menu not doing anything.

(Anyone wanting to do arc/ciel's routes on PSP will be fine though)

http://rapidsearch.yi.org/?s=tsukihime+psp


It's times like this I wish I knew how to actually code, as opposed to just being decent at tinkering with shit.

For somebody who doesn't know anything about programming and stuff, this would be impossible right? Or are the links you posted have some instructions to follow to make it easier?

Finally, /jp/ is behind something worthwhile.
Best of luck to you, OP, and I hope to see more of your work in the near future.

Good Luck OP!

So I was wondering, how does this work? You just simply convert? I'm not that good of a programmer. Anyone want to explain?

Aren't those just two bitmap images?

>>120684
I`ve no idea how to do crap like that.
there were just some tools to extract onscripter data.

>>120685
I havn`t coded sounds cause I`m lazy.

>>120682
Not big on voices in VN's?

If so I can understand that.
A lot of people seem to get off on having voices, even though it's in japanese and can't understand them.

Of course you can tell what they're saying because of the text, but that defeats the point.

Like, you wouldn't watch an american show with japanese subs, assuming you can't read moon.

>>120699
what if other people want to port them, though?

>>120693
getting it running? buy 2 things(I mentioned earlier), drag/drop. done.

>>120697
thats a general question, be more specific

>>120698
I`m not that mean

>>120703
I wouldn't watch a Japanese show without sound, even if it had English subtitles.

>>120699
If you want to work with RealLive, you may want to look at haeleth's rldev kit.
http://dev.haeleth.net/rldev.shtml

>>120703
I wouldn`t know, tsukihime is the only vn I`ve played.
its just it sounds annoying to do.

>>120705
eh?

>>120708
So can these just be bought from a regular gamestore or will I have to order it from some site?

>>120713
Sorry, I meant to quote >>120682

>>120717
this seems to be what I need

>>120721
internet

So, let me just run through this real quick. Please correct me on any points I've got wrong.

You've coded a VN engine targeted at the DS.

You're now taking a VN targeted at another engine, ripping the text/images, and formatting it for your own.

Currently, your engine does not have support for sound, including background music.

Also, you use backticks for apostrophes.

>>120721
There might be gamestores who got them but don't bet on that. Usually you order them which is perfectly fine.
I suggest either R4 or CycloDS Evolution, both of them are great.

good work OP, as the others suggested, use a short VN for testing, Tsukihime is long but looking forward to your progress

>>120735
pretty much.

the ` thing is from years ago when I sucked at typing, I would always miss the ' and hit enter, so I started aiming for ` instead.

the habit stuck.

>>120735
Does that mean he has to rip every line in the game? I'd fucking love to help you, OP

>>120686
>>120686

Same problem here. I've looked around everyhere for a solution, absolutely no luck. It seems the problem lies in the storage/retrieval of memory. Looks like we're suck with no portable Tohno family route.

>>120750
depends how well my converter works.

if it sucks, I`ll post tomorrow with instructions on how to help

>>120758
I hope I don't miss the thread tomorrow

>>120741 use a short VN for testing

OMGWTFOTL

>>120758
Well, wouldn't it just be a simple matter of a script to just rip and throw into another file?

Sounds like a half-hour Perl hack at most.

We have kept ronery threads bumped for 2-3 days, I'm sure we can keep a thread like this up for that long.

>>120778
I`m a python person, but pretty much, yea

The great thing about open source is, anyone could add in any funtionality they want but isn't there such as playing of sound files.

I'm impressed OP. Good show.

>>120786
Oh, my, I've lost so much respect for you.

Especially considering Perl'd be so perfect for such a job...

>>120786
Python person eh? Ever had a look at Ren'Py? It's a Python/Pygame based VN engine. Might pique your interest at least.

http://www.renpy.org/wiki/renpy/Home_Page

i have the GBA rom of Tsukihime. but it's in jap =(

>>120798
oh well

>>120806
Well, bang together some decent docs, at least some specs for the files, and it shouldn't be too much of an issue.

>>120753
No incest-on-the-go?

FUCK

>>120845
PROTIP: They're not really brother and sister.

>>120849
As far as she's concerned, he might as well be, and that's all the deciding I care about.

>>120753

Had any luck with Kagetsu Tohya?

I considered trying to port that over, but havent had time/cared enough/I'm lazy.

LOL. OP is FROM MM. This thread was posted in the IRC channel.

You're Messgae, you fucker. Aren't you?

>>120900
It was posted there becuase it was relevant to the channel, you mouthbreathing moron.

>>120900
It was posted there becuase it was relevant to the channel, genius.

>>120909
I don't think message would go as far as to encode the hospital part just for the sake of fooling Anonymous...

Thank you, OP.
Tomorrow, I shall greet the new day with a smile on my face, simply because of knowing of your valiant efforts.

I wish you luck.

>>120923
DS is next on his port/compatibility list, after toasters and Coke machines.

I'm not really sure how this works, since you're using a different engine, are you going to have the same flags as the original? such as needing to go through hisui's route before kohaku's?

>>120956
probably, it wouldn't be a complete port otherwise, and those flags are quite similar to the other flags in the game.

If op can get this shit to work to any vn that have been translated, I will get a DS.

>>120988
Same. There are no games on the DS worth paying money for, and the homebrew stuff sucks, but this might be worth it.

>>120900
>>120923
what was their opinion of it?

>>120956
I havn`t tested variables extensively, but from my small tests they work fine

>>120988
I hope to get more vn games ported as time goes on

and heres what I have so far, source, binaries, and tsukihime data files
http://rapidshare.com/files/96372957/vnds.tar.gz.html
drag the extracted folder to the root of the sd card, working with paths on the ds sucks, everything has to be hardcoded

>>121583
Anonymous delivers!

>>121583
Wow, I may actually play Tsukihime now. (inb4 lynch mob)

You're a goddamn hero.

I should also mention I have no idea whether saving works or not.

I`d assume the latter.

not like theres anything worth saving yet anyway though

/r/ minor tutorial on this kind of thing. I got nothing but time on my hands, and I'd love to learn to do it.

>>120546
WHAT
THE
FUCK
HOLY
SHIT
I
CAME
BRICKS

>>121698
>>>/prog/

Someone translate and port To Heart 2 and Tsuyokiss for PC and DS.

>>121712
There's a board for that? Huh. I rarely leave /jp/.

Looking through this now. Damn man, this is some good shit.

I take it you don't have sprite display done yet, and only BGs/event CGs?

>>121755
from my tests it worked fine.

also:
irc.rizon.net #vnds for feedback, help, and flaming

>>120686
wtf it won't work

In before someone posts a thread in 2ch or 2chan.

@OP
If u are interested i have access to an official NDS kit, including Nitro Debugger, Ensata and Nitro Character Studio and i am able to provide help, mostly with direct porting of graphics from pc to DS. I`m doing this shit everyday and would do for anon :D .. just spit it out if u need that kinda help

>>121833
the vn engine itself is practically done.
plus I doubt that stuff is linux friendly

as for getting stuff to the ds:
convert -resize 256x192 file.jpg .temp.png
pngnq .temp.png
mv .temp-nq8.png file.png'

>>121583
Text works fine but the graphics are bugged as you can see. Saving seems to work but when I load it will load from the beginning of the chapter.
Thanks for releasing of what you did so far, I'll look into the source right away.

can you use animations in .nce format with that devkit ?

>>121881
the hell is an .nce?

>>121867
hm, images work fine for me.
But I think the images on my ds are different than those in what I released.
I had that happen before, easily fixed(just open the image in gimp or something ans save it in there)

As for saving, I figured that much would work

Wow man you're still up? You should get a tripcode so we can bow down and worship.

>>121900
too lazy

>>121904
Any progress? Whats with that rapidshare link you posted?

>>121907
working on the converter now.

slight problem, my sprite handling deals with things on a x,y basis, onscripter just has left/right/center, with images of variable size.

shouldn`t be too hard to solve though

>>121921
Bah, I wish I could help. I'm a retard at these kinds of things. I wish you luck. Good night.

>>121921
God, you're reminding me work...
I can't help but see a game by the numbers now; it's like inverse matrix style.

>>121904
You are my new deity.

Meh. I won't bother gathering all information from this thread. I'll wait till it's finished and Instruction/ FAQ's are out.

I'd be happier if there'd be a translated and homebrewn port of December when there is no Angel.

Damn, when I try it the screen just goes black. Running EZflash V, with the files tried both in /vnds/vnds.nds and in the root directory. No joy.

Possible problem with the cart system, or am I just Doing It Wrong?

>>121965
>blah blah blah I love hearing myself talk and I'm sure everyone cares about tripfag #643's vaguely related opinions

>>121904
Don't ever become one of them.

>>121947
ok

>>121990
dldi patched?

>>121999
>dldi patched?
Not to my knowledge. I'll check it out.

I humbly /r/ that you work on this next. (image is a hoax ;_;)

>>121904
I worship theee, Anonymous. I will sacrifice my first born son in your name.

>>122001
faaaaaaaaaaaaaaaar too much effort

>>122001
Ohh that would be too good to be true :3

>>122019 :3
sage

>>122000 Here.

Thanks dude, a quick Google found it. Should do the trick.

>>122016
Yeah I figured as much. Any chance of kagetsu tohya though?

>>122047
the possibility crossed my mind.

a look at the flowchart made me quickly drop the idea.

Holy fucking shit if this will really come, I'll absolutely buy a R4.

An archive is fine too.

>>122059
Why would that make it harder to port? If you need to test the scenes they have a scene select as one of the unlockable easter eggs.

>>122101
you`re free to do it.

I approve

>>122098
You should have one already

>>120546

OP, you're awesome.

OP is amazing.
My respect, dear sir.

I don't have a DS,but I might get one if this works.

ONScripter...

Will this have all the screen effects as well?

>>122001
there's actually a demo of that running, some french dev made it, of course, it doesnt do anything, you can only move a leg in it, and there's some music in the bg

>>122106
once you give us the engine, i doubt it will be that bad - as someone mentioned, its just conversion so its mostly script work.

YOU NEED A WEBSITE OP, OPEN UP A WIKI OR A SOURCEFORGE PAGE.

and this is why /jp/ is better, good job anon

>>123442
google code is the new sourceforge. didn't you get the memo?

>>120591
You can get Tsukihime on PSP already though, since ONScripter has been ported to PSP. I actually converted Tsukihime for my PSP some time ago, but apparently I fucked something in the process and the images turned out shitty... The main problem during that time was that the latest PSP ONScripter version hadn't been translated to English, I don't know about the current situation though. Japanese Tsukihime works perfectly on PSP ONScripter though.

tl;dr You can already play Tsukihime and other ONScripter games on PSP

>>123577
Could you tell me a few more onscripter games?

>>123626
http://nscripter.insani.org/list.html

>>123356
shit. I knew I forgot something.
oh well.

>>123442
I have one, I`ll post future releases on there when the time comes(its designed for 0 content).

>>123982
I just wrote some crap. source was posted in the thread already.

conversion script is (nearly) done, just need to calculate sprite placement

>>124045
well, my script parser is pretty much done, so...
not really needed

>>124103
.nds: normal slot 1 loaders
.nds.gba: slot 2 loaders(+passme)
.sc.nds: supercard or something
I`m not quite sure myself, but the makefile automatically makes the stuff.

>>120546

FUCK YES! I LOVE YOU ANONYMOUS!

>>124157
yea, you`d have to patch it to get it running properly.

>>120546

I'm a homebrewer and modder too, it's good to see Tsukihime on another portable I own since the PSP slim right now is a pain to get a pandora's battery done for :)

Great job and please keep us updated on it!

http://www.ds-scene.net is a good site to send your homebrews to keep us updated on.

I'll love forever if you do this OP. FSN would be the cherry on top of an already delicious cake.

>>124408

The FSN demo is already on the DS, you'll never see the whole thing though, lol.

>>124430
the thread about that the other day is what gave me the idea to do this.

holy shit how does this work? how do i get this on my DS from my computer ( yea i know he made a special DS version, im wondering where you get the blank DS card or whatever)

>>124448
It's called flashcard. Google "cyclods evolution", it's awesome.

Finally, an excuse to buy an R4!

R4 or another flashcard, you should ask /v/

>>124408
didn't you get the memo? UBW installer will port F/SN to every platform, portable or not.
Personally I'm looking forward to play FSN on my SNES, fuck yeah.

Which is better R4 or CycloDS evolution?

Hey OP, have you heard of the fan-port of Turkeyhandle (H-version, in moonspeak) to a GBA ROM?
It's not too tough to find, just search "Tsukihime" wherever.
While working with a single-screen program may not be as appealing, it's worth a look to see if you can hack it.

>>124496
They're all good. M3 Real would be another alternative. I got CycloDS for the Wii compatibility (but I think the other said cards should have it as well by now)

So much win cannot possibly exist...this has to be some kind of hoax....it simply HAS to be.

>>124539
http://rapidshare.com/files/96536712/clip0001.avi.html

sure is a hoax

( ﾟ 3ﾟ)

>>124627
That should be proof enough for anyone who hasn't got a flashcard then.
Keep it up and don't forget to inform us about when you're going to make a site for it.

>>124669
While nothing about vnds is there, any information about it would be on http://digital-haze.net/

Also a question: In tsukihime, it there ever a time when theres 3 people on the screen at the same time? like, taking up the left, center, and right spaces.

>>124689
Yes, I think there is.

>>124727

>>124727
was supposed to be
>>124627

There's also some hentai homebrew things on the DS.

damn, i never thought of making my own script for my DS. good job

i just use mine as an mp3 dlg and game port as of yet

Has anyone else had the same problem >>121867 had? I've tried opening and saving the images in GIMP, as well as entirely new backgrounds, but the bug's still there.

Win thread is win.

>>125045
Yes. Strangely enough, the title image works fine, but almost all subsequent images render improperly on my end.

>>125454
Yeah, exactly the same for me.

I'm using a Toshiba 2gb card and EZFlashV system. You?

>>125473
M3 real here. Maybe it would be helpful to compare the difference between the title image and the other images. There might be some inconsistency.

>>125454
>>125473
>>125526
All the images work fine f or me, I`ll upload a new set later tonight (probably in a new thread)

>>125526
>>125595
I SOLVED IT!

The title screen has full colours, but the other images only have 256 colours. Setting one of the backgrounds to full colour palette fixed it.

>>125595
Looking forward to it. Thanks.
>>125615
Huh. Seems almost counterintuitive to me. I figure the DS would have an easier time rendering something that has fewer colors, then again I wouldn't be one to know.

>>125690
Yeah, it took me by surprise too. I just compared the images and changed the first difference I noticed. Weird.

>>125727
Since you've done it already, could you perhaps make a redone batch of images to replace the original ones?

THIS CHAIR THIS CHAIR THIS CHAIR

>>125742
I don't have a batch converter, and the background I did wasn't for tsukihime. Sorry.

>>125742
IrfanView has great and easy batch converting options.

>>120546
You're fucking awesome.

has anyone got this to work without the scrambled images?

>>127210
Read the thread, genius.

>>121867
>>125045
>>125454
>>125473
>>125526
>>125615
>>125690
>>125727

>>120593
>/g/ and /a/
Just to clarify. /g/ are kids, the real superheroes are /prog/

>>127210
I`m currently working on fixing this.

Is it possible to "click" through blocks of text instead of scrolling? It's not a big deal if it is not possible though.

I don't own that console, but OP, what you're doing is amazing.

>>127405
I`m not sure if this answers it, but I removed touchpad scrolling so just a tap progresses it.

>>127501
I think that answered it.

>>127633
new thread